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[2015-11-30 11:01:14] messiaen8844 : and there it goes.. monster 1.5% gap on USD/BRLopening today
[2015-11-30 11:04:36] HotDogs : As in BRL depreciating?
[2015-11-30 11:05:16] messiaen8844 : yes
[2015-11-30 11:07:03] messiaen8844 : friday R$ 3.70 = $ 1 USD, now 1 USD = R$ 3.90 right now, that's how fast it's going... february, when I started piling BTC, USD = R$ 2.40 BRL... got the idea?
[2015-11-30 11:07:29] HotDogs : So what is going on in Argentina
[2015-11-30 11:07:39] HotDogs : Did the Kirchner just steal all the FX reservers?
[2015-11-30 11:07:56] messiaen8844 : new president, out of reserves, huge capital controls, wrecked economy, all latin american is pretty bad right now
[2015-11-30 11:08:15] HotDogs : Yeah but the reserves didn't just vanish over night, sounds like something fishy is going on
[2015-11-30 11:08:15] messiaen8844 : plus USA doing all they can do de-estabilize it
[2015-11-30 11:10:21] messiaen8844 : not sure of the finer details in Argentina
[2015-11-30 11:10:35] messiaen8844 : media also not trustworthy
[2015-11-30 11:12:23] messiaen8844 : govt not releasing full data on economy in Argentina
[2015-11-30 11:14:53] messiaen8844 : here in Brazil we may be heading to the second presidential impeachment in 30 years, sounded like fantasy in january, now it's becoming real
[2015-11-30 11:15:09] HotDogs : So she looks to be a gonner
[2015-11-30 11:15:19] HotDogs : ?
[2015-11-30 11:15:19] messiaen8844 : leftists govt being wiped out in latin america
[2015-11-30 11:16:04] HotDogs : Most of them are crooks just depends on what ism they choose the rob you using
[2015-11-30 11:16:06] messiaen8844 : I doubted it at first, but now there's just too much going on, basically the country is halted due to political issues even more than economic ones
[2015-11-30 11:23:14] messiaen8844 : mounting my long on the dollar for december BRLUSD futures, so I can have a merry Xmas. This political chaos is like a dream for traders lol
[2015-11-30 11:45:30] Gemz : why cant i close market, it sayd order cancelled
[2015-11-30 11:47:12] Teddy76 : Gemz: probably because it will be put you into liquidation
[2015-11-30 11:47:16] BitMEX_Wally : Gemz: Market Close orders are IOC (Immediate Or Cancel). So if they are not immediately executable within your liquidation price they are canceled
[2015-11-30 11:50:00] Gemz : o ffs im losing trade after trade with this 100x
[2015-11-30 11:51:24] mwalshe99 : Gemz: slow down. this doesn't seem like a good time to trade
[2015-11-30 11:57:25] Swedishnut : morning :) Happy Cyber Monday
[2015-11-30 11:57:39] justinlooking : hey Swedishnut
[2015-11-30 11:57:42] j8 : morning
[2015-11-30 11:57:58] justinlooking : 2 min until expiry
[2015-11-30 11:58:13] Swedishnut : :) indeed had to see how this day played out
[2015-11-30 11:58:47] Swedishnut : then bad to bed for a few more hours :P
[2015-11-30 11:58:56] Swedishnut : back*
[2015-11-30 12:03:32] Swedishnut : interesting spread but looks like 375 will be new floor for my dreams, Peace folks. Need to keep sleeping this steak off. Food Coma round 2
[2015-11-30 12:03:45] rapidtrades : later man :)
[2015-11-30 12:03:49] justinlooking : lol nn
[2015-11-30 12:03:58] Swedishnut : later good fellas
[2015-11-30 12:04:09] messiaen8844 : there's some strong BEARsistence on 380
[2015-11-30 12:04:59] habibi : people are scared when they see almost 11k on sell side against 5k on bids @wisdom
[2015-11-30 12:05:07] messiaen8844 : think we will stay sideways for a while, if it ruptures then we go way higher. safer to long on 7D I think
[2015-11-30 12:12:24] justinlooking : anyone know a service that aggregates the depth of the spot exchanges?
[2015-11-30 12:12:45] sleger : that would be stupid, you would end up with crossed price
[2015-11-30 12:12:46] justinlooking : or at least makes it easier to see them all at once?
[2015-11-30 12:14:01] rapidtrades : got 30 cents on a long lol
[2015-11-30 12:14:21] rapidtrades : almost not worth the effort
[2015-11-30 12:14:34] BitMEX_Wally : As j8 recommended yesterday, you can see a depth weighted price for various sizes here: http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/exchanges
[2015-11-30 12:14:49] BitMEX_Wally : Well, a depth weighted spread at least
[2015-11-30 12:14:57] justinlooking : cool will check it out
[2015-11-30 12:17:03] rapidtrades : so here are we going next fellas?
[2015-11-30 12:17:07] rapidtrades : where*
[2015-11-30 12:17:58] habibi : sideways and a little down is my guess but wont sure to put money on it
[2015-11-30 12:20:00] rapidtrades : habibi: ok fella
[2015-11-30 12:25:54] habibi : rapidtrades: ur call :)?
[2015-11-30 12:27:11] rapidtrades : well things look very bullish but we're overdue for a retracement..so sideways too I guess
[2015-11-30 12:28:41] podizzle3k : wow what was that at settlement? bitfinex got ddosd?
[2015-11-30 12:28:53] podizzle3k : just to screw with our settlement?
[2015-11-30 12:29:12] thehawthorne : 2550 -2600 soon. after that retrace
[2015-11-30 12:30:14] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: dunno I was taking a shower...what did u see
[2015-11-30 12:33:22] podizzle3k : for the last half hour before settlement bitfinex wasnt getting any data updates on the charts. looked like a ddos
[2015-11-30 12:33:46] habibi : on which chart?
[2015-11-30 12:34:16] messiaen8844 : or stalled orderbook?
[2015-11-30 12:34:32] podizzle3k : i wasnt on bitfinex so i dont know just watching from bitcoinwisdom
[2015-11-30 12:35:13] podizzle3k : usually that happens to the china exchanges when someone is trying to obscure their trades
[2015-11-30 12:35:14] rapidtrades : I was looking at okc and it said on data on finex/stamp
[2015-11-30 12:35:21] rapidtrades : NO DATA
[2015-11-30 12:35:35] podizzle3k : oh stamp too?
[2015-11-30 12:35:51] rapidtrades : but I checked finex and the site was up
[2015-11-30 12:36:07] podizzle3k : Bitstamp will switch to BIP 101 this December. http://ift.tt/21ojONf #reddit #bitcoin
[2015-11-30 12:36:10] podizzle3k : hmm
[2015-11-30 12:36:12] rapidtrades : not sure if trading worked tho, just went to bitfinex home page
[2015-11-30 12:36:23] podizzle3k : rapidtrades: probably just the api getting hit thats the usual MO
[2015-11-30 12:39:35] rapidtrades : cmon let's crash to I can go back to bed
[2015-11-30 12:39:40] rapidtrades : had 3 hrs of sleep today
[2015-11-30 12:40:57] rapidtrades : die botcorn die
[2015-11-30 12:51:14] podizzle3k : nope you have to stay awake to watch
[2015-11-30 12:51:19] podizzle3k : for another 72 hours
[2015-11-30 12:52:48] podizzle3k : i want to be real green and not pea green
[2015-11-30 13:10:06] podizzle3k : wow 24hr on discount
[2015-11-30 13:12:05] messiaen8844 : because it's becoming toppish
[2015-11-30 13:20:04] jung1 : 400 tommorow
[2015-11-30 13:25:06] mwalshe99 : 380 tomorrow
[2015-11-30 13:28:33] habibi : 379 in a second
[2015-11-30 13:29:06] mwalshe99 : aight rainman not showing off
[2015-11-30 13:29:16] mwalshe99 : no*
[2015-11-30 13:33:08] podizzle3k : btc gonna start that creep up
[2015-11-30 13:35:44] jung1 : will see what will be next ath
[2015-11-30 13:53:01] jung1 : http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/27/investing/china-missing-executives/index.html?iid=hp-stack-intl
[2015-11-30 14:20:13] habibi : someone will get rekt today with that premium if we fall ;p
[2015-11-30 14:21:44] messiaen8844 : doji on daily
[2015-11-30 14:22:05] messiaen8844 : hedging my 7d with a short on 24h
[2015-11-30 14:23:33] laisee : is it thursday already?
[2015-11-30 14:23:51] habibi : nope, so no doji
[2015-11-30 14:25:12] laisee : ah, $4 premium 2 high IMOe
[2015-11-30 14:26:09] messiaen8844 : it will fall IF we consolidate near here
[2015-11-30 14:27:25] messiaen8844 : let's see if we get to 2330 again
[2015-11-30 14:28:50] messiaen8844 : look the daily simmetry
[2015-11-30 14:29:45] messiaen8844 : very nice time/price simmetry
[2015-11-30 14:38:36] irbbqu : 15m looks bouncy
[2015-11-30 14:40:21] messiaen8844 : yep, could bounce all the way up
[2015-11-30 14:41:45] messiaen8844 : but after that I still see days of sideways, ranging down
[2015-11-30 14:42:35] podizzle3k : interestign okcoin 8cny above huobi
[2015-11-30 14:42:50] podizzle3k : days of sideways wtf you are sick person
[2015-11-30 14:42:55] irbbqu : Just missing that fomo spike up though.
[2015-11-30 14:43:27] podizzle3k : fomo piggyback new highs not so much dumps
[2015-11-30 14:43:34] messiaen8844 : podizzle if 380 resistance is a very strong point, bulls confidence will be shake
[2015-11-30 14:43:47] messiaen8844 : I see fomo kicking in once we pass $ 400
[2015-11-30 14:44:01] podizzle3k : messiaen8844: thats assuming this is a trader speculation pump and not just new fiat funneling in
[2015-11-30 14:45:21] messiaen8844 : I don't tons of money kicking in before $400, but that's my perception
[2015-11-30 14:46:16] messiaen8844 : $400 is a really really major point for me
[2015-11-30 14:46:23] irbbqu : Someone mentioned peso/btc being at a 30% premium, there is def new money coming in, but doesnt help much if pumpers will dump on em at higher levels.
[2015-11-30 14:48:10] podizzle3k : irbbqu: all new money helps
[2015-11-30 14:48:21] podizzle3k : even when they dump the majority will keep it on exchanges and buy back
[2015-11-30 14:48:31] messiaen8844 : BTC is at premium in brazil too, doesn't mean tons of people are buying it :). but > $400 can attact the really majo players
[2015-11-30 14:48:35] podizzle3k : esp with a good monthly uptrend
[2015-11-30 14:48:49] messiaen8844 : yes, but they wait before strong support
[2015-11-30 14:48:56] messiaen8844 : being optimistic this is 2330 for me
[2015-11-30 14:49:37] messiaen8844 : good idea to wait a few days after such major upside for correction
[2015-11-30 14:50:16] messiaen8844 : it was $315 to $380 straight up
[2015-11-30 15:09:21] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: yeah it was....smone finally noticed
[2015-11-30 15:09:51] rapidtrades : it was $350>$380 actually, cos we got that $30 crash few days ago
[2015-11-30 15:09:55] messiaen8844 : are you buying now
[2015-11-30 15:10:00] messiaen8844 : ?
[2015-11-30 15:10:20] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: I'm buying ur whore mother...does that count?
[2015-11-30 15:11:06] messiaen8844 : I think you should, we are going to retest the 2500 top ;)
[2015-11-30 15:11:53] rapidtrades : I may buy if we crash
[2015-11-30 15:16:18] justinlooking : rapidtrades: what's the rapidicator showing m8?
[2015-11-30 15:18:13] nostdal.org : how come 100x price is so far away from index? .. i mean shouldn't people buying now get margin called and stuff?
[2015-11-30 15:18:42] nostdal.org : this thing seems to move around on its own at times .. then suddenly it does not move around on its own .. then it does again
[2015-11-30 15:19:07] messiaen8844 : you can set your own leverage, trading 100x is suicide
[2015-11-30 15:19:22] messiaen8844 : just click on the +B button
[2015-11-30 15:19:26] messiaen8844 : if you are using isolated margin
[2015-11-30 15:19:29] Gemz : how can u set ur own leverage
[2015-11-30 15:19:31] justinlooking : nostdal.org: it's a futre ,so for 24h, people are speculating about the price tomrrow at 12 utc
[2015-11-30 15:19:38] messiaen8844 : (which you should here!!!!)
[2015-11-30 15:20:01] Gemz : dont see +b
[2015-11-30 15:20:30] messiaen8844 : read the information on cross X isolated
[2015-11-30 15:20:51] Gemz : got link?
[2015-11-30 15:21:10] messiaen8844 : Click on "Reference" on the sidebar I think
[2015-11-30 15:21:13] nostdal.org : i'm using isolated margin .. that's not my question .. it just seems weird that thing thing floats around on its own at times, then does not
[2015-11-30 15:21:38] messiaen8844 : you mean mark price?
[2015-11-30 15:22:13] nostdal.org : yes, it's at 378 now .. bitfinex is 374, stamp is 372
[2015-11-30 15:22:31] messiaen8844 : that's a expectation for the daily settlement price
[2015-11-30 15:22:43] messiaen8844 : hence the premium
[2015-11-30 15:23:00] nostdal.org : yeah, well .. it seemed to follow index more earlier .. i don't know
[2015-11-30 15:23:29] messiaen8844 : depends on how people perceive the value ;). also, market makers
[2015-11-30 15:23:40] messiaen8844 : it also take a whiles to update sometimes
[2015-11-30 15:23:52] messiaen8844 : to avoid liquidations due to volatility
[2015-11-30 15:23:58] nostdal.org : i thought market makers where at the mercy of index also
[2015-11-30 15:24:57] messiaen8844 : yes, but they play spreads around the index, sometimes they wlill try to trap you, be careful lol
[2015-11-30 15:25:02] messiaen8844 : NEVER market close, only limit
[2015-11-30 15:25:08] nostdal.org : yesyes
[2015-11-30 15:27:05] nostdal.org : i'm pretty sure they must have changed something .. this thing does not behave like it did before
[2015-11-30 15:29:12] SnackyCoins : nostdal.org: there's more volatility now
[2015-11-30 15:29:17] j8 : nostdal.org: it uses the "impact mid price" to set the fair basis. this changed around a month ago
[2015-11-30 15:30:45] messiaen8844 : I gotta read more about the index, how it weights the exchanges
[2015-11-30 15:30:59] justinlooking : why would someone ddos freenode??
[2015-11-30 15:31:21] messiaen8844 : well, plenty of important technical discussion there
[2015-11-30 15:31:29] messiaen8844 : for all the major FOSS projects
[2015-11-30 15:31:30] rapidtrades : justinlooking: why would smone DDOS anything? becuase they're assholes
[2015-11-30 15:31:54] messiaen8844 : someone is mad and want to enrage them lol
[2015-11-30 15:32:27] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: FOUND THE DDOS-er
[2015-11-30 15:32:58] messiaen8844 : yay, BRL sinking
[2015-11-30 15:33:04] messiaen8844 : my BTS another %1 up
[2015-11-30 15:33:06] messiaen8844 : BTC
[2015-11-30 15:33:12] Trade_master_3000 : are there tutorials for this exchange?
[2015-11-30 15:33:26] SnackyCoins : Trade_master_3000: click "refrences" on the sidebar
[2015-11-30 15:33:34] justinlooking : yes there are "Lessons"
[2015-11-30 15:34:02] nostdal.org : SnackyCoins: yes, but that's what so weird .. index can be dumping/pumping hard (volitility), but then bitmex just sits there totally independent of index now .. for minutes and minutes .. then suddenly something happens .. other times nothing happens
[2015-11-30 15:34:13] messiaen8844 : this is the most user-friendly exchange I've ever seen. So well documented, tooltips, great UI
[2015-11-30 15:34:29] SnackyCoins : oh yes, bitfinex is no longer the index
[2015-11-30 15:34:32] SnackyCoins : that's a big change
[2015-11-30 15:35:04] SnackyCoins : instead tradeblock is used, which averages several indexes and weights them, it results in a much more stable price
[2015-11-30 15:35:38] SnackyCoins : https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2015-11-30 15:35:47] nostdal.org : perhaps tradeblock is lagging at times
[2015-11-30 15:36:12] SnackyCoins : well the averaging produces a lag in itself
[2015-11-30 15:36:58] nostdal.org : it shouldn't when all the exchanges it indexes are dumping at the same time .. they all almost 5-8 USD belowe bitmex
[2015-11-30 15:37:06] nostdal.org : for example
[2015-11-30 15:37:10] SnackyCoins : and you know, it's futures, maybe if traders don't believe an index move is going to continue they will not sell down/buy up to it
[2015-11-30 15:38:20] SnackyCoins : you know okcoin futures trade at a premium as well 8)
[2015-11-30 15:38:34] SnackyCoins : or sometimes under, we'll do that too
[2015-11-30 15:39:05] nostdal.org : yeah, but i thought index mattered more here .. it seems that it used to matter way more earlier
[2015-11-30 15:39:16] nostdal.org : like updating every second or so
[2015-11-30 15:39:22] nostdal.org : liquidating even the MM
[2015-11-30 15:39:23] SnackyCoins : it did when bitfinex was the peg
[2015-11-30 15:39:34] SnackyCoins : but then we had all those spikes and downtime
[2015-11-30 15:39:49] nostdal.org : k
[2015-11-30 15:39:56] SnackyCoins : there was a night we couldn't settle because bitfinex was down, had to use bitstamp as the backup
[2015-11-30 15:40:09] justinlooking : nostdal.org: what timescales are you talking about when say "before" and "earlier"
[2015-11-30 15:40:30] nostdal.org : couple of weeks, maybe a month or so ago
[2015-11-30 15:40:41] justinlooking : ah k, ty
[2015-11-30 15:40:49] SnackyCoins : not much has changed in that timeframe O_o
[2015-11-30 15:40:50] j8 : nostdal.org: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation read the part about weighted bid, ask and mid price
[2015-11-30 15:41:08] j8 : the mark price follows the market more closely now.
[2015-11-30 15:41:18] j8 : since a month or two ago.
[2015-11-30 15:41:23] BitMEX_Wally : We moved to TradeBlock XBX index end of August
[2015-11-30 15:41:27] BitMEX_Wally : Right after some Bitfinex downtime
[2015-11-30 15:42:12] SnackyCoins : china's buying
[2015-11-30 15:42:26] messiaen8844 : as usual ;)
[2015-11-30 15:43:53] rapidtrades : the Chinese have more money then brains
[2015-11-30 15:45:47] justinlooking : our reverse indicator everybody...
[2015-11-30 15:45:50] messiaen8844 : its working for those buying, not ?
[2015-11-30 15:47:05] justinlooking : has "do you even lift bro" ever been more appropriate?
[2015-11-30 15:47:23] BitMEX_Sam : It's normal for futures to trade well above spot when there is a lot of positive sentiment
[2015-11-30 15:47:35] BitMEX_Sam : We list the spot (index) price in the ticker, which is currently 374.72
[2015-11-30 15:47:45] BitMEX_Sam : AKA that is a very healthy premium on 24H
[2015-11-30 15:48:45] rapidtrades : ''healthy'' also known as the FOMO premium
[2015-11-30 15:49:20] messiaen8844 : upside premium
[2015-11-30 15:49:30] messiaen8844 : if you disagree, short ;)
[2015-11-30 15:49:37] podizzle3k : wow that was fast
[2015-11-30 15:49:45] justinlooking : podizzle3k: ?
[2015-11-30 15:49:56] podizzle3k : the rebound
[2015-11-30 15:50:20] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: it's only china
[2015-11-30 15:50:30] podizzle3k : its only china?
[2015-11-30 15:50:36] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: ya
[2015-11-30 15:50:45] podizzle3k : pretty sure theyre trading the same btc
[2015-11-30 15:50:56] irbbqu : These guys play on most exchanges
[2015-11-30 15:51:23] rapidtrades : play is the rigth word
[2015-11-30 15:51:36] irbbqu : yup :)
[2015-11-30 15:51:37] messiaen8844 : taking the money out of newbies is the best term
[2015-11-30 15:51:43] podizzle3k : its only china playing guyz. you cant really sell a bitcoin for 380
[2015-11-30 15:52:00] justinlooking : lol
[2015-11-30 15:52:08] rapidtrades : u can't actually, not unless u want some CNY
[2015-11-30 15:52:31] podizzle3k : do you think china is going to run up the price and leave the rest of the world behind?
[2015-11-30 15:52:36] podizzle3k : is that seriously what you think
[2015-11-30 15:52:51] rapidtrades : ya, finex is at $376 and highest
[2015-11-30 15:52:51] messiaen8844 : they don't care about the rest, they need btc
[2015-11-30 15:53:07] SnackyCoins : the cny prices are higher once you exchange it to usd
[2015-11-30 15:53:17] messiaen8844 : I think premium is a goot bullish indicator right now
[2015-11-30 15:53:19] podizzle3k : yes demand is higher in china thats for sure
[2015-11-30 15:53:28] messiaen8844 : once it starts to decrease I'll be worried
[2015-11-30 15:53:30] podizzle3k : $383.57 in china SPOT
[2015-11-30 15:53:39] podizzle3k : messiaen8844: same
[2015-11-30 15:53:41] podizzle3k : great indicator
[2015-11-30 15:53:44] messiaen8844 : also I think most bearwhales are on Finex
[2015-11-30 15:53:49] messiaen8844 : holding their $380
[2015-11-30 15:54:24] messiaen8844 : I'm reducing my positions as we go along, taking profits and reducing risk
[2015-11-30 15:55:35] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: when u going to launch blockmex?
[2015-11-30 15:55:48] justinlooking : LOL
[2015-11-30 15:56:05] BitMEX_Wally : Once we raise $80mm
[2015-11-30 15:56:15] BitMEX_Wally : (see Crypto Trader Digest)
[2015-11-30 15:56:20] messiaen8844 : own blockexporer??
[2015-11-30 15:56:38] podizzle3k : 80 millimeters?
[2015-11-30 15:56:58] podizzle3k : i raise 80mm every time i see a sexy lady
[2015-11-30 15:57:11] habibi : u change blockchain tech at all? or its the same that btc use? i mean why dont u use btc chain instead ?
[2015-11-30 15:57:32] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/KBvjUvU.jpg
[2015-11-30 15:58:24] Swedishnut : Sleep so good :)
[2015-11-30 15:58:31] messiaen8844 : goodbye BRL
[2015-11-30 15:58:55] messiaen8844 : BTC premium will be like china now in Brazil
[2015-11-30 15:59:10] podizzle3k : messiaen8844: are you from brazil?
[2015-11-30 15:59:15] messiaen8844 : it's much less expensive to buy USD using bitcoins
[2015-11-30 15:59:23] messiaen8844 : yes
[2015-11-30 15:59:29] podizzle3k : your english is really good
[2015-11-30 15:59:46] podizzle3k : my portuguese is really bad
[2015-11-30 15:59:52] SnackyCoins : love arthur's articles
[2015-11-30 16:00:14] podizzle3k : yes arthur articles very good stuff
[2015-11-30 16:01:14] messiaen8844 : let me show you something
[2015-11-30 16:02:25] messiaen8844 : https://www.dropbox.com/s/na2pvtgjf9uvdtr/goodbye_BRL.png?dl=0
[2015-11-30 16:02:48] messiaen8844 : look at that chart
[2015-11-30 16:03:42] justinlooking : has new digest been sent out??
[2015-11-30 16:04:03] messiaen8844 : holding BRL is more dangerous than holding BTC. and I mean it
[2015-11-30 16:07:11] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: that's debatable at these elevated le
[2015-11-30 16:07:30] rapidtrades : vels*
[2015-11-30 16:12:08] justinlooking : yay! got digest
[2015-11-30 16:13:08] Gemz : hjow can i customize my leverage x in the daily?
[2015-11-30 16:13:55] justinlooking : "We have expert MySQL and PHP developers straight from Tokyo." HAHAHA
[2015-11-30 16:14:20] SnackyCoins : does the testnet get any orders from the real market?
[2015-11-30 16:15:26] BitMEX_Sam : No, it's all bots on testnet
[2015-11-30 16:15:35] BitMEX_Sam : It follows the real prices but that's about it
[2015-11-30 16:16:10] BitMEX_Sam : Gemz: Open an isolated position then press the +&btc; button in the positions list to add margin
[2015-11-30 16:16:43] rapidtrades : arthur is calling for $400 on the wekly
[2015-11-30 16:16:49] rapidtrades : the fomo is real
[2015-11-30 16:16:57] SnackyCoins : arthur's the boss ;)
[2015-11-30 16:17:53] Swedishnut : great read in the digest I like it :)
[2015-11-30 16:18:18] bertmacklin666 : Grr, why is "isolate margin "automatically clicked sometimes when I open a new position? Just got liquidated out of a position I never would have isolated. . .
[2015-11-30 16:18:19] rapidtrades : Weekly 50x Futures, XBT7D: Buy XBT7D while spot is $275 to $385 with an upside target price of $400.
[2015-11-30 16:18:23] rapidtrades : that's a typo right
[2015-11-30 16:18:28] rapidtrades : 275
[2015-11-30 16:18:32] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes, that was meant to be 375
[2015-11-30 16:18:46] rapidtrades : REKT
[2015-11-30 16:18:53] BitMEX_Sam : bertmacklin666: It's enabled by default to limit potential losses
[2015-11-30 16:19:06] BitMEX_Sam : Make sure you check the order options before opening a position
[2015-11-30 16:20:09] bertmacklin666 : why not have a box to check on the confirmation screen that pops up?
[2015-11-30 16:20:25] rapidtrades : yeah just give us the confirmation box
[2015-11-30 16:20:30] bertmacklin666 : ffs
[2015-11-30 16:21:18] SnackyCoins : not all of us are using the confirmation box :)
[2015-11-30 16:21:26] bertmacklin666 : thats your option
[2015-11-30 16:21:50] bertmacklin666 : you lose nothing by there being an extra safeguard
[2015-11-30 16:22:02] BitMEX_Sam : I agree bertmacklin666, an "Isolate Margin" checkbox & message on the confirmation box is a good idea
[2015-11-30 16:22:04] BitMEX_Sam : I'll add one.
[2015-11-30 16:22:35] bertmacklin666 : thank you
[2015-11-30 16:38:53] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: it was originally my idea but w/e
[2015-11-30 16:53:52] Teddy76 : maybe dumb question, but dont find how to API request the balance amount. Is somebody can help me?
[2015-11-30 16:54:28] justinlooking : have you gen'd ur api keys and made a successful request yet?
[2015-11-30 16:55:48] Teddy76 : lol yes :)
[2015-11-30 16:56:06] Teddy76 : but you're right, you don't know ;)
[2015-11-30 16:56:20] Teddy76 : i have bot running since few weeks ;)
[2015-11-30 16:56:43] Teddy76 : otherwise, ccan you help me?
[2015-11-30 16:58:07] BitMEX_Wally : Teddy76: Have you looked at the documentation?
[2015-11-30 16:58:08] justinlooking : am looking thru api docs
[2015-11-30 16:58:09] BitMEX_Wally : Or API explorer?
[2015-11-30 16:58:13] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/User/User_getMargin
[2015-11-30 16:58:29] BitMEX_Wally : `availableMargin`
[2015-11-30 16:59:07] Teddy76 : yes ty wally
[2015-11-30 16:59:17] Teddy76 : found it also :)
[2015-11-30 17:00:12] Teddy76 : walletBalance on user/margin method is the one i looked for ;)
[2015-11-30 17:02:35] BitMEX_Wally : Have a look at the complete chart here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2015-11-30 17:06:09] Teddy76 : yes, i know this page
[2015-11-30 17:06:12] Teddy76 : nice one ;)
[2015-11-30 17:06:38] Teddy76 : i try to understand response request with this page currently
[2015-11-30 17:16:08] BitMEX_Sam : bertmacklin666: rapidtrades: If you refresh, the order confirmation dialog now shows isolated/cross margin status
[2015-11-30 17:18:43] podizzle3k : ok china enough consolidation. leg up
[2015-11-30 17:19:50] podizzle3k : its been an ugly dump since 2488. blood in the streets. nowhere to go but up now
[2015-11-30 17:23:09] podizzle3k : everyone chant huobi huobi huobi
[2015-11-30 17:29:54] justinlooking : nice sam
[2015-11-30 17:51:01] habibi : this 3k bot today acts weird
[2015-11-30 17:51:18] habibi : but who cares if it still makes money
[2015-11-30 17:55:23] justinlooking : cheapies
[2015-11-30 18:09:58] podizzle3k : cheapies!
[2015-11-30 18:10:23] justinlooking : oops
[2015-11-30 18:22:42] podizzle3k : 7 more hours until volume returns? :(
[2015-11-30 18:31:56] podizzle3k : my volume, my precious
[2015-11-30 18:40:59] podizzle3k : fomo is back
[2015-11-30 19:29:59] podizzle3k : buying at 384.8 are we
[2015-11-30 19:30:08] justinlooking : can see in recent trades
[2015-11-30 19:30:13] justinlooking : but not on chart :S
[2015-11-30 19:30:27] sleger : that was my order at 384.8, thanks
[2015-11-30 19:30:29] justinlooking : refhresd and chart still broke
[2015-11-30 19:30:49] podizzle3k : sleger nice on. i tried to sneak in before you heh
[2015-11-30 19:31:35] sleger : looks like liquidation, or "large" market order
[2015-11-30 19:34:01] podizzle3k : i placed my order 11 seconds too late
[2015-11-30 19:34:09] podizzle3k : for sell at 384.79
[2015-11-30 19:34:12] podizzle3k : damn
[2015-11-30 19:34:40] sleger : i dont like people who place orders just in front of me
[2015-11-30 19:35:00] sleger : I vote for changing min order size to 500 at least and tick size to 0.25
[2015-11-30 19:37:07] podizzle3k : ha
[2015-11-30 19:37:26] podizzle3k : i dont like it either but your requests are quite nazi
[2015-11-30 19:37:48] podizzle3k : i vote that only my sell orders are filled and everyone else's ignored
[2015-11-30 19:43:51] podizzle3k : i can't wait until all my XBT are converted to BLOCKMEX COIN
[2015-11-30 19:44:05] podizzle3k : :D im gonna be blockmex rich
[2015-11-30 19:44:11] mwalshe99 : blockmex?
[2015-11-30 19:44:32] podizzle3k : yep did you know youre not even on bitmex anymore
[2015-11-30 19:44:34] podizzle3k : this is blockmex
[2015-11-30 19:44:55] podizzle3k : https://blog.bitmex.com/crypto-trader-digest-nov-30/
[2015-11-30 19:44:55] mwalshe99 : ???
[2015-11-30 19:45:51] podizzle3k : VC: That sounds very reasonable. FOMO Capital typically writes checks for $50 to $100 million. We are interested in leading your round.
[2015-11-30 19:45:52] podizzle3k : lol
[2015-11-30 19:46:02] podizzle3k : FOMO capital ballin out of control
[2015-11-30 19:46:12] BitMEX_Sam : get your BlockShares while they're hot
[2015-11-30 19:46:18] BitMEX_Sam : We'll guarantee a price floor of $20 each
[2015-11-30 19:46:32] mwalshe99 : where at?
[2015-11-30 19:46:41] sleger : yeah i did not understand that thing in the newsletter, what was the point ?
[2015-11-30 19:46:46] justinlooking : it's satire
[2015-11-30 19:46:54] irbbqu : Where can mine??
[2015-11-30 19:47:05] habibi : shut up and take my whole balance for it
[2015-11-30 19:47:25] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: The point is that a lot of investment/hype is moving to "the Blockchain, not Bitcoin", when investors don't seem to understand how the two are linked and the futility of creating their own coin
[2015-11-30 19:47:55] sleger : well, futility, that's an opinion
[2015-11-30 19:48:08] BitMEX_Sam : True, I shouldn't discount all of them
[2015-11-30 19:48:19] BitMEX_Sam : But there are a lot of investor scams / misunderstanding going around
[2015-11-30 19:48:30] sleger : yes, ok, got it now.
[2015-11-30 19:49:02] justinlooking : c'mon china.... le spike
[2015-11-30 19:49:17] podizzle3k : looking forward to it sam.
[2015-11-30 19:49:27] podizzle3k : as well as this pump that just kicked off apparently
[2015-11-30 19:49:36] podizzle3k : *sniff sniff* whats that? smells like fomo
[2015-11-30 19:50:04] podizzle3k : sleger i might get my sell filled after all
[2015-11-30 19:50:10] justinlooking : take em
[2015-11-30 19:50:16] justinlooking : weekly bargain
[2015-11-30 19:56:17] podizzle3k : isnt blockchain derivatives just another name for altcoin derivatives?
[2015-11-30 19:57:28] podizzle3k : VC: Wow, you created your own Blockchain? I’m really impressed.
[2015-11-30 19:58:45] podizzle3k : yeah so did the guy that made dickbutt coin and robot sex nickels
[2015-11-30 19:59:03] podizzle3k : i wonder if fomo capital is equally impressed by tthose
[2015-11-30 20:02:29] BitMEX_Sam : Outlook is good
[2015-11-30 20:04:13] podizzle3k : sounds pretty good. personally im raising 200 million with a 1Billion valuation for podizzle3kchain. YOLO ventures is cutting me a check for 80M tonight
[2015-11-30 20:05:46] BitMEX_Sam : Congrats, I know they're hard to get
[2015-11-30 20:06:18] podizzle3k : wuahah joking aside i look forward to your guy's next brainchild
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] podizzler3000 : j8 chrome and firefox do the trick for me
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] podizzler3000 : beta chrome though
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] podizzler3000 : ready for liftoff captain
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] podizzler3000 : contracts are go
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] podizzler3000 : approaching lunar base in 3...2...1
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] Pysiek : test
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] podizzler3000 : test
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] abc123_ : pass
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] podizzler3000 : it failed actually
[2015-11-30 20:06:43] podizzler3000 : just us here no bitmexians
[2015-11-30 20:06:44] gielbier : null
[2015-11-30 20:06:44] BitMEX_NotAdmin : !
[2015-11-30 20:06:44] BitMEX_NotAdmin : you thought of this already!
[2015-11-30 20:06:44] thebigmac : test
[2015-11-30 20:07:49] BitMEX_Sam : Looks like the IRC bot was out for a moment and just dumped the messages it saw
[2015-11-30 20:07:54] BitMEX_Sam : Will work on that
[2015-11-30 20:08:00] podizzle3k : oh cool irc bot is back
[2015-11-30 20:08:05] podizzle3k : he was gone for almost a week
[2015-11-30 20:08:15] justinlooking : freenode has been down...
[2015-11-30 20:08:24] BitMEX_Sam : Ah that would explain it.
[2015-11-30 20:08:33] justinlooking : still down afact
[2015-11-30 20:08:38] BitMEX_Sam : Up for me
[2015-11-30 20:08:40] STRML : Testing
[2015-11-30 20:08:43] podizzle3k : he back
[2015-11-30 20:08:57] podizzle3k : he was in the channel just on an extended smoke break or something
[2015-11-30 20:08:58] justinlooking : maybe webchat.freenode.net then
[2015-11-30 20:15:16] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam! I was looking through the logs and saw several 504 Engine Error messages in reply to cancelAllAfter.
[2015-11-30 20:15:31] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Just now, or earlier?
[2015-11-30 20:16:13] BitMEX_Sam : We did a quick reload on the engine about 4 hours ago that caused some messages to be rejected
[2015-11-30 20:16:25] micmix : earlier, from 2015-11-29T20:03:28.314Z
[2015-11-30 20:16:50] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm that's about 13 minutes ago? Looking into it
[2015-11-30 20:17:01] BitMEX_Sam : Ah wait
[2015-11-30 20:17:06] BitMEX_Sam : 13 minutes and one day. :)
[2015-11-30 20:17:14] micmix : no, yesterday :-)
[2015-11-30 20:24:10] micmix : some 503 and downtime HTML page in reply to get orderbook 20 minutes ago: 2015-11-30T20:06:38.873Z BitMEX: public API returned 503 @BitMEX_Sam
[2015-11-30 20:25:28] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: lasted just a few seconds
[2015-11-30 20:26:32] micmix : websocket connection was reset at the same time
[2015-11-30 20:29:04] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, we did an API roll, appears the proxy didn't move traffic the way it should have - looking into it
[2015-11-30 20:30:54] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: any new API features? maybe batch orders? :-)
[2015-11-30 20:31:26] BitMEX_Sam : Not yet, but we've updated the api connector repository and added some new definitions to the swagger spec
[2015-11-30 20:31:32] BitMEX_Sam : Plus some engine speed improvements
[2015-11-30 20:31:42] micmix : ok, cool
[2015-11-30 20:33:41] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: would be nice to have a public change log for the API
[2015-11-30 20:33:52] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed, we'll work on that
[2015-11-30 20:33:59] BitMEX_Sam : Usually whenever there are changes we put them in the announcements box
[2015-11-30 20:34:09] BitMEX_Sam : That is, changes that affect external consumers :)
[2015-11-30 20:36:32] micmix : Yeah, but would be nice to get more detailed log for the API, with links to the docs. That way we'll know if we have to change our code.
[2015-11-30 20:36:54] BitMEX_Sam : Sure.
[2015-11-30 20:41:48] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: In any case you are way ahead of other bitcoin exchanges with your API docs. Great job! Most of the others have awful docs for awful APIs :-)
[2015-11-30 20:44:57] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks :) Working on a changelog for you now and a way to expose it through the site & API.
[2015-11-30 20:49:41] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: cool, you are fast :-)
[2015-11-30 20:49:58] rapidtrades : fast as a bullet
[2015-11-30 21:05:12] rapidtrades : China co-opting bitcoin was the worst thing to happen to this currency
[2015-11-30 21:10:33] justinlooking : ?
[2015-11-30 21:31:51] rapidtrades : where did the saying ''cold hard'' cash come from? Cash is neither cold nor hard
[2015-11-30 21:34:34] podizzler3k : its hard when you deal in bricks
[2015-11-30 21:37:48] rapidtrades : I see ur bak on irc...u maggot
[2015-11-30 21:37:59] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: have you already mentioned your idea with the green/red colors in recent trades to any of the mods?
[2015-11-30 21:38:20] smagin07 : well, after blowing out an account, I'M BACK FOR MORE BLOOOD
[2015-11-30 21:38:32] smagin07 : whether it be mine, or the markets lol
[2015-11-30 21:38:32] rapidtrades : smagin07: did u learn smth
[2015-11-30 21:39:01] smagin07 : what's smh?
[2015-11-30 21:39:03] smagin07 : smth
[2015-11-30 21:39:09] rapidtrades : something
[2015-11-30 21:39:31] smagin07 : ahh yeah, I learned how not betting on Bitcoin is not any fun and won't make you any coin
[2015-11-30 21:39:33] justinlooking : that's the spirit smagin07!
[2015-11-30 21:40:31] justinlooking : TschavaTschigger: wasn't my idea as such, just what i'm used to in ohter systems... not sure if they saw it, but some peeps opposed it pretty quickly iirc
[2015-11-30 21:41:33] rapidtrades : stop buying China
[2015-11-30 21:42:13] justinlooking : rapid why so obsessed with contrarian glory? don't y'kno trend is ur friend
[2015-11-30 21:42:34] rapidtrades : justinlooking: your mom is my friend too, just sayin
[2015-11-30 21:44:31] justinlooking : those 383s are tempting
[2015-11-30 21:45:37] rapidtrades : USA not moving, only china
[2015-11-30 21:45:38] habibi : that premium again on china
[2015-11-30 21:45:50] rapidtrades : f*uck china
[2015-11-30 21:45:50] habibi : what was the highest premium in last mini bubble? anyone remember?
[2015-11-30 21:45:59] rapidtrades : 70? idk ask hanza
[2015-11-30 21:46:02] j8 : like 15%
[2015-11-30 21:46:54] rapidtrades : looks like a buy but USD not participating...yet
[2015-11-30 21:47:08] rapidtrades : and that premium is rapey
[2015-11-30 21:47:12] justinlooking : ABANDON SHIP RAPIDICATOR FLIPPED!
[2015-11-30 21:47:27] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: hey sam. would be cool if the colors in the "recent trades" would depend on bids/asks getting hit and not on the price increasing/decreasing... it's quite confusing now cause the information bid/ask is missing completely
[2015-11-30 21:47:47] rapidtrades : TschavaTschigger: agree I thought it was bid/asks
[2015-11-30 21:48:28] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. I don't believe any other systems do it that way, it just depends on the price
[2015-11-30 21:48:33] rapidtrades : smone ATE that wall
[2015-11-30 21:48:51] rapidtrades : poof it's gone
[2015-11-30 21:49:06] BitMEX_Sam : In practice it usually correlates. And what do you mean by "quite confusing now"? It hasn't changed since we started the platform.
[2015-11-30 21:49:06] habibi : as long as finex wont follow
[2015-11-30 21:49:55] rapidtrades : if finex never follows, china can f off
[2015-11-30 21:50:06] rapidtrades : NOONE BUY
[2015-11-30 21:50:23] habibi : coz of slow motion pump at china
[2015-11-30 21:50:25] rapidtrades : f*ck em, let them PnD alone
[2015-11-30 21:50:28] habibi : noone reacting
[2015-11-30 21:50:46] rapidtrades : or we know China's full of it, just like last time
[2015-11-30 21:50:56] rapidtrades : remember 500>300
[2015-11-30 21:51:06] rapidtrades : yep China
[2015-11-30 21:51:06] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: just my bad english. it was confusing all the time. there was a little discussion about it in the trollbox a few days ago and quite some people agreed that it would be more clear with bids/asks
[2015-11-30 21:51:31] rapidtrades : TschavaTschigger: it was today not few days ago
[2015-11-30 21:52:18] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: really? I wasn't online today but there were maybe more discussions about it
[2015-11-30 21:53:05] BitMEX_Sam : I have to admit it's an odd request, I don't know of any market - anywhere - that does that, but I'll have to do some checking.
[2015-11-30 21:53:24] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: odd? or AMAZING
[2015-11-30 21:53:25] justinlooking : BitMEX_Sam: time and sales on bloomberg does and XTrader too.
[2015-11-30 21:53:33] rapidtrades : we'll start that trend right here
[2015-11-30 21:53:47] rapidtrades : this is ground zero for the coming revolution
[2015-11-30 21:54:22] rapidtrades : oh-oh...okc just spiked to 380...
[2015-11-30 21:56:00] habibi : so i call short here
[2015-11-30 21:58:04] TschavaTschigger : I just think it's super logical. quite honestly, we can already see if the price of recent trades increases/decreases by just looking at the value. furthermore, there are arrows that indicate the movement, too. and on top of that we have the colors. so basically we have 3 visual options to see the same thing... but the information if trade was bid/ask being hit is missing completely
[2015-11-30 21:58:20] rapidtrades : man has a point
[2015-11-30 21:58:22] rapidtrades : +1
[2015-11-30 21:58:41] BitMEX_Sam : Okay - I see what you mean, let me see if I can get that info in there.
[2015-11-30 21:59:03] rapidtrades : tnx man
[2015-11-30 21:59:31] micmix : TschavaTschigger: red/green based on price is standard practice. it's called tick direction, you can see it on any stock ticker
[2015-11-30 21:59:53] rapidtrades : WILL CHINA CRASH BITCORN AGAIN TUNE IN AT 11! (THE ANSWER IS YES)
[2015-11-30 22:02:31] justinlooking : micmix, it's not a ticker tho, it's time and sales
[2015-11-30 22:03:46] TschavaTschigger : exactly. ticket would be more logical green/red with increase/decrease.
[2015-11-30 22:03:57] TschavaTschigger : ticker*
[2015-11-30 22:04:20] justinlooking : yeh tickers should stay as they are for sure...
[2015-11-30 22:05:16] micmix : I agree that knowing whether the trade was buy or sell on the taker side is useful, just not sure it should be done with color
[2015-11-30 22:06:02] BitMEX_Sam : How's this: http://i.imgur.com/xenevwx.jpg
[2015-11-30 22:06:52] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Do you have a screenshot of how that's done in xtrader? Not sure of what the best indication is
[2015-11-30 22:07:18] justinlooking : https://www.tradingtechnologies.com/help/x-trader/time-and-sales/introduction-to-time-and-sales/
[2015-11-30 22:07:35] BitMEX_Sam : Ah so it's only by color.
[2015-11-30 22:08:17] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: can we do yellow for buys and white for sells?
[2015-11-30 22:08:38] BitMEX_Sam : I don't think that really makes sense in this context
[2015-11-30 22:09:02] BitMEX_Sam : We use a thematic green/red color throughout the interface to indicate up/down
[2015-11-30 22:09:10] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: it does, the Chinese are buying...we're selling
[2015-11-30 22:09:20] BitMEX_Sam : lol...
[2015-11-30 22:09:36] justinlooking : haha wtf shut up rapid
[2015-11-30 22:10:50] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: I have another idea. How about combining trades from the same order at the same price into one row, and showing B/S letters for buy/sell?