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[2017-04-21 23:06:16] ripcord : we all know mark is in ontario
[2017-04-21 23:06:20] mark121 : sleger is comin around
[2017-04-21 23:06:26] stf28 : lol i don't understand slope in a racist way so in any case not @Ahhere
[2017-04-21 23:06:38] mark121 : ouch, Ontario? Noooo please
[2017-04-21 23:06:48] sleger : mark121: ...... x116x..x4
[2017-04-21 23:06:49] Ahhere : stf28: race police standing down
[2017-04-21 23:06:52] mark121 : its not bigger than most countries lol
[2017-04-21 23:07:17] mark121 : IRC tells u the IP
[2017-04-21 23:07:56] mark121 : u gona hack my chat account eh
[2017-04-21 23:08:01] mark121 : Noooo!! x 2
[2017-04-21 23:09:27] mark121 : man if Mark got hacked, the realmark, cus of our use of his identity id feel kinda bad
[2017-04-21 23:10:09] Ahhere : https://hacked.com/biggest-bitcoin-hacks-thefts-time/ guise a huge % of btc was hacked we prolly all have criminal coin.
[2017-04-21 23:10:10] ripcord : so, what , you're just pretending to be mark?
[2017-04-21 23:10:34] sleger : nah, he's pretending to not be mark
[2017-04-21 23:10:43] ripcord : yeah
[2017-04-21 23:10:43] mark121 : no im pretending nothing, i just told u
[2017-04-21 23:10:45] mark121 : and ive told u sevearl times
[2017-04-21 23:11:02] mark121 : even b4 i was asked lol
[2017-04-21 23:11:30] mark121 : but anyhow
[2017-04-21 23:11:41] ripcord : there are probably tons of serbian mark kantardziskis in canada that trade btc
[2017-04-21 23:11:49] mark121 : oh gosh
[2017-04-21 23:11:50] mark121 : lol!
[2017-04-21 23:12:03] mark121 : thats... embarrassing
[2017-04-21 23:12:15] mark121 : how do ppl miss that so often?
[2017-04-21 23:12:33] mark121 : yes, im pretending to be a person of the exact same name as the person i am
[2017-04-21 23:12:56] sleger : well you also pretended to be working at bridgewater
[2017-04-21 23:12:57] mark121 : its like a double fake
[2017-04-21 23:12:58] ripcord : so you're not mark kantardziski?
[2017-04-21 23:13:17] mark121 : sleger, are u ok? how many times have i told u
[2017-04-21 23:13:26] mark121 : umade that up
[2017-04-21 23:13:28] sleger : zero
[2017-04-21 23:13:35] mark121 : lies and lies
[2017-04-21 23:13:52] mark121 : anyhow
[2017-04-21 23:14:02] sleger : you have said you worked for a 100bn+ hedge fund, AFTER saying you didnt want to say the size because then I'd know which one it would be
[2017-04-21 23:14:02] ripcord : you didn't answer the question
[2017-04-21 23:14:04] mark121 : ripcord: i been meanin to tell ya
[2017-04-21 23:15:03] mark121 : ripcord: i think you got mixed up, just cause u joined my fans for a min or two, it doesnt mean u r relevant
[2017-04-21 23:15:08] mark121 : no1 cares about u
[2017-04-21 23:15:13] ripcord : you didn't answer the question
[2017-04-21 23:15:18] mark121 : lol!
[2017-04-21 23:15:25] sleger : ^ he NEVER does
[2017-04-21 23:15:28] mark121 : is he in a movie?
[2017-04-21 23:15:43] mark121 : again , jesus this is getin hard sleger.. u need to keep up
[2017-04-21 23:15:53] ripcord : keep deflecting mark
[2017-04-21 23:15:54] mark121 : we are different
[2017-04-21 23:15:59] sleger : clearly
[2017-04-21 23:16:01] sleger : thank god
[2017-04-21 23:16:02] mark121 : (nice, took that from me)
[2017-04-21 23:16:39] mark121 : u care very desperately that random people u dont know, in a trollbox, on the internet, believe you are somethin you may or may not be
[2017-04-21 23:16:45] mark121 : I dont.
[2017-04-21 23:17:27] mark121 : im heres to troll n have fun while i can b here and then im gone like the wind
[2017-04-21 23:17:41] ripcord : you didn't answer the question
[2017-04-21 23:17:45] mark121 : oh gosh
[2017-04-21 23:17:49] mark121 : i think he hit his head
[2017-04-21 23:17:58] mark121 : jus fyi, i didnt read the question
[2017-04-21 23:18:11] ripcord : ok, be 'gone like the wind' then
[2017-04-21 23:18:20] mark121 : nor would i ever, again, referring to the clear statement
[2017-04-21 23:18:31] XBT_IHCT : good evening chaps
[2017-04-21 23:18:38] mark121 : howdy partner
[2017-04-21 23:19:45] mark121 : ripcord: dude, take it easy, im sorry i upset u.. i mean honestly.. i hear some of the best trader sshort bottoms on the regular
[2017-04-21 23:19:57] XBT_IHCT : how's the trading going for everyone else atm?
[2017-04-21 23:20:49] mark121 : most are good i think
[2017-04-21 23:20:59] mark121 : some are a little testy atm
[2017-04-21 23:21:11] ripcord : mark121: you still long?
[2017-04-21 23:21:30] mark121 : answer the question!
[2017-04-21 23:21:43] mark121 : ye ye im long like donkey kong
[2017-04-21 23:21:50] ripcord : k
[2017-04-21 23:22:14] Ahhere : XBT_IHCT: ur just in time for the midnight rhyme
[2017-04-21 23:22:39] sleger : ripcord: you didnt specify which instrument he was long
[2017-04-21 23:22:45] sleger : he will LIE
[2017-04-21 23:22:47] sleger : as always
[2017-04-21 23:22:53] mark121 : wow
[2017-04-21 23:22:53] mark121 : my fans
[2017-04-21 23:22:58] mark121 : are crazy tonight
[2017-04-21 23:23:02] Ahhere : #traderlivesmatter
[2017-04-21 23:23:14] mark121 : u mena my tiny ltc scalp?
[2017-04-21 23:23:24] sleger : Ahhere: who else is a trader here ?
[2017-04-21 23:23:46] dotdotdot : rekt leaderboard would be more interesting
[2017-04-21 23:23:50] mark121 : pokemon trader?
[2017-04-21 23:23:50] Ahhere : sleger: #gamblerlivesmatter?
[2017-04-21 23:24:13] XBT_IHCT : Ahhere: the midnight rhyme?
[2017-04-21 23:24:15] Ahhere : dotdotdot: we need this ASAP
[2017-04-21 23:24:31] Ahhere : mark121: school @XBT_IHCT on the midnight rhyme
[2017-04-21 23:24:52] Ahhere : dotdotdot: feature request
[2017-04-21 23:24:56] Ahhere : /rrekt
[2017-04-21 23:25:56] sleger : bot was marked, huh i meant banned
[2017-04-21 23:26:00] XBT_IHCT : sleger: trader trying to evolve into more of an investor recently I guess
[2017-04-21 23:26:12] XBT_IHCT : why?
[2017-04-21 23:26:23] sleger : what trader ?
[2017-04-21 23:26:45] ripcord : sleger: talking about ltc
[2017-04-21 23:27:05] sleger : long too on that
[2017-04-21 23:27:51] ripcord : i'm short, short-term
[2017-04-21 23:28:12] sleger : been long since 4
[2017-04-21 23:28:28] sleger : covered half after the news 11 hours ago
[2017-04-21 23:28:41] ripcord : nice
[2017-04-21 23:28:53] sleger : v small position anyways
[2017-04-21 23:29:22] XBT_IHCT : did you ever mine any or did you buy it?
[2017-04-21 23:29:39] sleger : bot
[2017-04-21 23:29:49] sleger : for collateral for 0kc bot
[2017-04-21 23:30:21] sleger : then it was just bot pnl
[2017-04-21 23:31:03] XBT_IHCT : do you have any dash?
[2017-04-21 23:31:15] sleger : no
[2017-04-21 23:31:46] sleger : net small short on dash
[2017-04-21 23:32:01] omicron : are we trading at discount
[2017-04-21 23:32:15] omicron : recent trades is showing 1242.5 index is 1244.1
[2017-04-21 23:32:29] dotdotdot : ETH dumping
[2017-04-21 23:32:42] sleger : poor poor ETH :(
[2017-04-21 23:34:22] XBT_IHCT : I recently started thinking dash has some good longer term potential.
[2017-04-21 23:35:10] XBT_IHCT : was thinking about buying and holding some and potentially mining some too.
[2017-04-21 23:35:57] mark121 : let me tell u a little story, hope u like violence, cus it'll get gory.. it all began a long time agoz, when mosta ma nigga still sported fros.. u see this bitch i knew, he was a begger, stole purses to make dat cheddar, one day tho, while smokin dat rock witha hoe,
[2017-04-21 23:36:09] mark121 : she said u shud try the internet, u can be anyone bro, so he stole a purse, and got online, realized he cud just straight up lie, no more begging for change, living for dimes, when asked for a hobby he tried to spell begger, but all that came out was sleger..
[2017-04-21 23:36:27] sleger : ^ BAN
[2017-04-21 23:36:31] mark121 : and thats the midnight rhyme
[2017-04-21 23:36:33] ripcord : what are you, 12?
[2017-04-21 23:36:58] mark121 : XBT_IHCT: incase u were wondering still
[2017-04-21 23:38:27] mark121 : Ahhere: u see that fire? think i melted my surroundings
[2017-04-21 23:39:23] XBT_IHCT : mark121: lol wtf?
[2017-04-21 23:39:26] cg : btc ded?
[2017-04-21 23:39:29] mark121 : ya sleger, what kinda adults asks for bans
[2017-04-21 23:39:34] mark121 : u 12 bro?
[2017-04-21 23:40:06] ripcord : good one
[2017-04-21 23:40:07] mark121 : ty rippy
[2017-04-21 23:41:12] XBT_IHCT : So,anyone think that's crazy, my view on dash that is?
[2017-04-21 23:41:32] mark121 : dash short is good idea
[2017-04-21 23:42:12] XBT_IHCT : do you mean short term, or?
[2017-04-21 23:42:36] mark121 : relatively yes
[2017-04-21 23:42:57] mark121 : while btc morphs in charizard at the least
[2017-04-21 23:43:03] mark121 : into*
[2017-04-21 23:43:33] mark121 : (rallys hard)
[2017-04-21 23:43:44] XBT_IHCT : oh okay
[2017-04-21 23:44:34] mark121 : Ahhere: ^^^^^^
[2017-04-21 23:44:46] XBT_IHCT : I was talking more long term, like 12 ~24 ~ even 36 months
[2017-04-21 23:45:27] ripcord : alts in 36 mo? might as well buy a lottery ticket
[2017-04-21 23:46:23] XBT_IHCT : ripcord: not at all, why do you say that?
[2017-04-21 23:46:24] mark121 : XBT_IHCT: so basically do the opposite of what he says (hes my little cousin, kinda slow)
[2017-04-21 23:46:43] mark121 : dont mind him
[2017-04-21 23:46:52] ripcord : yeah, listen to mark
[2017-04-21 23:46:59] ripcord : i'm slow
[2017-04-21 23:47:09] mark121 : awe
[2017-04-21 23:47:21] mark121 : u kno i luv ya rippy
[2017-04-21 23:47:34] ripcord : I just can't keep up
[2017-04-21 23:47:51] mark121 : i wouldnt go that far
[2017-04-21 23:47:51] XBT_IHCT : ripcord: how long have you been trading?
[2017-04-21 23:47:52] ripcord : i'm out...<3 @mark121
[2017-04-21 23:48:09] ripcord : XBT_IHCT: 20 years
[2017-04-21 23:48:18] mark121 : oh man
[2017-04-21 23:48:19] ripcord : but listen to mark
[2017-04-21 23:48:58] mark121 : ya soo u got a tough decision
[2017-04-21 23:49:22] sleger : XBT_IHCT: mark has been trading a full 2.5 weeks listen to him
[2017-04-21 23:49:32] XBT_IHCT : ripcord: I meant crypto man
[2017-04-21 23:49:33] mark121 : my fans are so funny
[2017-04-21 23:49:48] mark121 : XBT_IHCT: he cudnt spot a simple breakout on a chart with the breakout circled btw
[2017-04-21 23:49:56] mark121 : im not joking sadly
[2017-04-21 23:50:11] mark121 : so 20 years, fuck
[2017-04-21 23:50:31] ripcord : XBT_IHCT: 5 years
[2017-04-21 23:50:39] mark121 : such bs lmao
[2017-04-21 23:51:08] mark121 : beautiful stuff*
[2017-04-21 23:51:17] aethlios : sleger: what do you use when away from office? to monitor the market, a smartphone? a tablet? laptop?
[2017-04-21 23:51:21] mark121 : bbl
[2017-04-21 23:51:44] XBT_IHCT : ripcord: so if you've been doing this for longer than I have, how come you made that comment about a lottery ticket!?
[2017-04-21 23:52:17] sleger : aethlios: iphone 7+, I have an ipad mini for the gym too, but they are all not great, but dont want to carry anything bigger
[2017-04-21 23:52:23] ripcord : XBT_IHCT: 3 years is an eternity in this young market...I can't tell you which if any alts will survive
[2017-04-21 23:53:30] XBT_IHCT : I was thinking about mining dash too, so I have to think about the longer term picture.
[2017-04-21 23:53:36] mark121 : jus cus u cant, doesnt mean others cant
[2017-04-21 23:53:38] sleger : trading btc since early 2013
[2017-04-21 23:54:25] XBT_IHCT : nice
[2017-04-21 23:54:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 4000 @ 1258.5
[2017-04-21 23:54:59] sleger : heard of it just after the 260 bubble, was easy to enter at ~90$
[2017-04-21 23:55:12] aethlios : sleger: past a day not to watch the price just once?
[2017-04-21 23:55:32] sleger : aethlios: you can set up alerts on iphone app
[2017-04-21 23:55:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 15 @ 0.00994
[2017-04-21 23:55:44] sleger : they dont always work perfectly though
[2017-04-21 23:55:49] sleger : but they also have most alts now
[2017-04-21 23:56:06] aethlios : i use bitcoin checker.
[2017-04-21 23:56:13] aethlios : android.
[2017-04-21 23:56:42] XBT_IHCT : you buy and hold sometimes, so how come you're not holding some dash too? @sleger
[2017-04-21 23:57:05] sleger : i dont think there is good enough justification for its value
[2017-04-21 23:57:19] mark121 : tradingview alerts with SMS alerts rock
[2017-04-21 23:57:38] mark121 : work more consistently than the apps
[2017-04-21 23:58:17] mark121 : and more customizable and works on all assets
[2017-04-21 23:58:35] XBT_IHCT : yeah but tradingview has some delay no?
[2017-04-21 23:58:47] mark121 : not for moi
[2017-04-21 23:59:05] XBT_IHCT : sleger: that's interesting man!
[2017-04-22 00:00:03] sleger : if you look at the community it's easy to see real coins and p&d
[2017-04-22 00:00:52] sleger : eth, btc, ltc real coins / dash zec dump
[2017-04-22 00:01:43] rapidtrades : lol LTC
[2017-04-22 00:01:49] XBT_IHCT : I really didn't like the immutability issue with eth though man!
[2017-04-22 00:01:54] aethlios : dash started as the anonymous coin and now forgot that already. ltc with LN can kill dash.
[2017-04-22 00:01:59] rapidtrades : they have 1 developer at a time
[2017-04-22 00:02:10] sleger : XBT_IHCT: I think it is what made big companies go into it
[2017-04-22 00:02:26] rapidtrades : charlie didn't even port segwit to LTC, shaolinfry did
[2017-04-22 00:02:34] sleger : if there's a bug, your money is stolen, no worries, we'll reverse that transaction
[2017-04-22 00:02:40] rapidtrades : they steal 99% of code from bitcoin anyway
[2017-04-22 00:02:53] rapidtrades : progress will stall if they go segwit first
[2017-04-22 00:03:07] sleger : like bitcoin progressed ?
[2017-04-22 00:03:27] sleger : bitcoin is a dinosaur compared to eth
[2017-04-22 00:03:32] rapidtrades : bitcoin has core believers doesn't need progress
[2017-04-22 00:03:45] rapidtrades : talking about LTC bish
[2017-04-22 00:03:57] sleger : bitcoin has first mover advantage, established some value there as store of value
[2017-04-22 00:04:04] sleger : (which you shorted at *800*)
[2017-04-22 00:04:21] sleger : Ltc is banking on btc failures
[2017-04-22 00:04:31] sleger : worth trying
[2017-04-22 00:05:04] rapidtrades : it will be a disaster
[2017-04-22 00:05:11] rapidtrades : jihan will make sure of it
[2017-04-22 00:05:20] rapidtrades : he's already eaten the specs alive
[2017-04-22 00:05:39] sleger : if Jihan is your god ....
[2017-04-22 00:05:45] sleger : at least Vitalik is handsome
[2017-04-22 00:05:49] rapidtrades : by the time he's done, no long on leverage will survivie
[2017-04-22 00:06:03] aethlios : rapidtrades: CL is the leader, the man to connect all parties together. Like he did now with SW, if satoshi appears in BTC who will go against his propositions? Creator of each coin is very important. Look Vitalik in eth for example.
[2017-04-22 00:06:31] rapidtrades : well ur leader just got played publicly
[2017-04-22 00:06:47] rapidtrades : he's prolly raging in his room
[2017-04-22 00:06:56] sleger : Satoshi got slapped by a sashimi in the eyes and cant type his private key anymore <= SAD
[2017-04-22 00:07:20] XBT_IHCT : hehe!
[2017-04-22 00:07:33] rapidtrades : this is a big hit to his reputation
[2017-04-22 00:08:15] aethlios : rapidtrades: https://twitter.com/T3naciousC/status/855393911648518144
[2017-04-22 00:08:19] sleger : rapidtrades: so which country ?
[2017-04-22 00:09:05] rapidtrades : aethlios: do u understand that he got played?
[2017-04-22 00:09:07] XBT_IHCT : Either he's ultra bullish and just quietly holding till $100k~ or even $1m or he's dead!
[2017-04-22 00:09:18] rapidtrades : its now 13 hrs after the deal
[2017-04-22 00:09:28] rapidtrades : why aren't they signalling
[2017-04-22 00:09:32] aethlios : rapidtrades: If you are a Litecoin Holder, this is just a ride like any other. Do not feed the trolls who are fudding that miners will not activate, that miners will not keep their promise. u/coblee did everything he could and instead of a roundtable in June, it was done in April. that is 2 month. It is already a huge, HUGE step foreward. The miners have agreed to signal and they will. Give them time.
[2017-04-22 00:09:52] rapidtrades : how much more time lol
[2017-04-22 00:10:03] rapidtrades : u think the market will wait forever?
[2017-04-22 00:10:26] rapidtrades : this is the 3rd jihan switcharoo in the past 10 days
[2017-04-22 00:10:39] aethlios : rapidtrades: https://twitter.com/johnsonlau01/status/854213772684046337 new devs are on the way after SW.
[2017-04-22 00:10:41] rapidtrades : im surprised there are fools still buying at >12
[2017-04-22 00:10:50] rapidtrades : aethlios: DEV...one, if
[2017-04-22 00:11:13] aethlios : rapidtrades: why don't you open short again??
[2017-04-22 00:11:17] rapidtrades : LTC is a joke with empty blocks and no devs
[2017-04-22 00:11:32] rapidtrades : aethlios: once it drops to my exit i will
[2017-04-22 00:11:40] sleger : I made 2 ltc transactions today, 1 eth transaction , and 0 btc transaction
[2017-04-22 00:11:45] sleger : welcome to the new world
[2017-04-22 00:11:55] sleger : quick, no wait, and cheap
[2017-04-22 00:12:02] aethlios : wait for LN.
[2017-04-22 00:12:03] sleger : just like satoshi wanted
[2017-04-22 00:12:24] rapidtrades : exacttly and he didn't need segwit on bigger blocks
[2017-04-22 00:12:30] rapidtrades : or*
[2017-04-22 00:12:35] aethlios : also CL committed to raise block size limit!!!!
[2017-04-22 00:12:35] sleger : Charlie might be satoshi ! Created btc as a test, and his real baby is ltc, in the cooking
[2017-04-22 00:12:41] rapidtrades : 2.5 min wait or instant, who cares
[2017-04-22 00:12:53] rapidtrades : its already fast and noone is using LTC
[2017-04-22 00:13:06] sleger : I did twice today
[2017-04-22 00:13:09] sleger : no btc
[2017-04-22 00:13:35] aethlios : rapidtrades: 100 million daily volume.
[2017-04-22 00:14:02] sleger : that's around 100 million mcdonalds hamburger i've heard
[2017-04-22 00:14:12] sleger : ^ a lot
[2017-04-22 00:14:17] rapidtrades : yeah 100m cos everyone is speculating on ir right now
[2017-04-22 00:14:25] sleger : you can feed 5 americans a day with that much
[2017-04-22 00:14:26] rapidtrades : it will be <10m in one month
[2017-04-22 00:14:29] sleger : sorry 5 millions
[2017-04-22 00:14:32] rapidtrades : and back to being a dead coin
[2017-04-22 00:14:39] XBT_IHCT : rapidtrades: hey you're pretty much a long term permabear regarding all crypto in general aren't you man?
[2017-04-22 00:15:05] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-04-22 00:15:07] sleger : XBT_IHCT: he was stuck in 2 shorts so he's saying that, before jan (when he shorted btc at 800) he was quite bulish
[2017-04-22 00:15:08] aethlios : rapidtrades: never was dead, market cap was growing while price was stable.
[2017-04-22 00:15:15] rapidtrades : this is just a fad
[2017-04-22 00:15:49] rapidtrades : going to die with the teslas and the solar roofs and solar freaking roadways
[2017-04-22 00:16:11] sleger : solar roadways, what a great idea !!!
[2017-04-22 00:16:17] sleger : why not rocket than you can reuse ?
[2017-04-22 00:16:22] sleger : or moon travels ?
[2017-04-22 00:16:36] rapidtrades : these moonshot techs rarely work out...especially if they're all over the news
[2017-04-22 00:16:54] rapidtrades : its basically modern day snake oil
[2017-04-22 00:16:59] sleger : yes and AI is stupid and will never be useful ?
[2017-04-22 00:17:08] rapidtrades : AI works
[2017-04-22 00:17:09] sleger : social networks will never work outside of campus
[2017-04-22 00:17:13] rapidtrades : solar doesn't
[2017-04-22 00:17:18] sleger : internet will never pick up
[2017-04-22 00:17:25] sleger : computers are only for nerds
[2017-04-22 00:17:36] sleger : credit cards are a scam
[2017-04-22 00:17:39] rapidtrades : 7 freaking years
[2017-04-22 00:17:44] sleger : rapid is against evolution
[2017-04-22 00:17:46] rapidtrades : how long does it need to catch on
[2017-04-22 00:17:49] sleger : short the future
[2017-04-22 00:18:10] sleger : bitcoin is some small new gold, that's it
[2017-04-22 00:18:14] XBT_IHCT : sleger: no way, you must be joking about solar roadways though right!
[2017-04-22 00:18:28] sleger : eth (or maybe something better will come) is internet 3.0
[2017-04-22 00:18:45] rapidtrades : solar roadways are a thing, just ridiculously expensive and not practical
[2017-04-22 00:18:50] sleger : XBT_IHCT: i know about solar roadways
[2017-04-22 00:18:54] rapidtrades : like most of Musk's inventions
[2017-04-22 00:19:07] sleger : solar roofs are ok
[2017-04-22 00:19:13] sleger : roadway is a bit too much
[2017-04-22 00:19:13] rapidtrades : hyperloop
[2017-04-22 00:19:24] rapidtrades : the man is borderlien crazy
[2017-04-22 00:19:28] XBT_IHCT : sleger: oh for sure
[2017-04-22 00:19:30] sleger : i dont think he really put much money into hyperloop
[2017-04-22 00:19:46] rapidtrades : he's like 3 times re-maried, twice TO THE SAME CHICK
[2017-04-22 00:19:46] sleger : but the idea is awesome
[2017-04-22 00:19:51] rapidtrades : paid her off twice
[2017-04-22 00:19:59] sleger : i dont see a problem with that
[2017-04-22 00:20:19] sleger : "mistakes were made "
[2017-04-22 00:20:20] rapidtrades : he's f*cked in the head
[2017-04-22 00:20:42] sleger : he's a genius
[2017-04-22 00:20:49] sleger : unlike those idiots at the bar
[2017-04-22 00:20:52] sleger : the apple bar
[2017-04-22 00:21:13] rapidtrades : genius at fooling people maybe
[2017-04-22 00:21:22] XBT_IHCT : but that solar roadways scam was funny eh! gotta be one of the biggest crowdfunding scams I have ever seen!
[2017-04-22 00:21:44] 10 : XD solar Roadways
[2017-04-22 00:21:58] rapidtrades : if a money manager did strung along investors like this for a decade the SEC would shut him down
[2017-04-22 00:22:10] rapidtrades : either deliver or f*ck off
[2017-04-22 00:22:20] sleger : he just bought 25m$ or so of TSLA shares
[2017-04-22 00:22:35] rapidtrades : on leverage?
[2017-04-22 00:22:39] rapidtrades : again?
[2017-04-22 00:23:12] sleger : http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/insider-trades
[2017-04-22 00:23:18] sleger : 33m$
[2017-04-22 00:23:39] rapidtrades : https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/13/teslas-musk-tells-disgruntled-shareholders-buy-ford.html
[2017-04-22 00:23:40] sleger : no 25m$
[2017-04-22 00:23:49] XBT_IHCT : rapidtrades: are you not a fan of the paradigm shift Must has set in motion re electric cars man!?
[2017-04-22 00:24:06] sleger : https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/848935705057280001?lang=en
[2017-04-22 00:24:11] XBT_IHCT : *Musk
[2017-04-22 00:24:35] rapidtrades : Tesla's market value has since slipped to just shy of GM's. As of Wednesday, the market cap of the Silicon Valley automaker was $50.3 billion, while GM's was $50.8 billion
[2017-04-22 00:24:45] rapidtrades : ^ disaster waiting to happen
[2017-04-22 00:24:47] sleger : detail
[2017-04-22 00:25:00] sleger : i thought about selling when it hit 305
[2017-04-22 00:25:08] sleger : but didnt
[2017-04-22 00:28:49] frog : rapidtrades: yeah but still hard to time the market though
[2017-04-22 00:29:41] rapidtrades : longterm puts
[2017-04-22 00:30:34] sleger : why not just short the stock ??
[2017-04-22 00:32:18] XBT_IHCT : So you're holding Tesla long term yeah. Nice! I'm have a lot of respect for Elon
[2017-04-22 00:33:19] sleger : well until i think it's time to sell
[2017-04-22 00:34:06] sleger : but i want to see what happens with the solar roofs first
[2017-04-22 00:34:14] sleger : if its a fail then maybe i'll sell
[2017-04-22 00:34:35] XBT_IHCT : sure
[2017-04-22 00:35:10] XBT_IHCT : I think that's got a lot of potential though
[2017-04-22 00:35:43] XBT_IHCT : I really like the idea of getting an electric car and charging it at home with my solar roof!
[2017-04-22 00:35:59] emcor : guys
[2017-04-22 00:36:02] emcor : the ltc
[2017-04-22 00:36:06] emcor : is gonna go up
[2017-04-22 00:36:08] emcor : believe me
[2017-04-22 00:36:13] emcor : its gonna happen!!!!
[2017-04-22 00:36:41] shillosopher : y
[2017-04-22 00:37:03] emcor : shut up idiot
[2017-04-22 00:37:07] emcor : noone care about oyu
[2017-04-22 00:37:55] cg : watch btc at finex, ask side is empty
[2017-04-22 00:38:03] cg : if it keeps going this can easily blow up
[2017-04-22 00:39:19] XBT_IHCT : Not sure when the rollout in the UK will take place though. @sleger
[2017-04-22 00:42:01] XBT_IHCT : cg: That's just because no one can take their fiat out atm though don't you think?
[2017-04-22 00:43:11] XBT_IHCT : That's what I think anyway.
[2017-04-22 00:43:21] sleger : XBT_IHCT: in the UK ?
[2017-04-22 00:43:21] sleger : never
[2017-04-22 00:43:24] sleger : there is no sun
[2017-04-22 00:43:53] XBT_IHCT : lol there is man.
[2017-04-22 00:44:38] XBT_IHCT : It's not as good as in some places, but they still work pretty good
[2017-04-22 00:45:38] XBT_IHCT : well just normal solar panels that is anyway... I'm really not sure how good those solar tiles are in comparison mind you.
[2017-04-22 00:47:38] shillosopher : emcor: haha fuck you too
[2017-04-22 00:52:15] frog : cg: how big could the premium get?
[2017-04-22 00:54:41] XBT_IHCT : frog: do you have an account on finex?
[2017-04-22 00:55:10] frog : XBT_IHCT: no
[2017-04-22 00:56:04] XBT_IHCT : How long have they been having fiat withdrawal problems and how long do you think it will go on for. From that you can work it out no?
[2017-04-22 00:56:32] frog : XBT_IHCT: thats what i am trying to estimate
[2017-04-22 00:59:20] XBT_IHCT : Also, I'm starting to think that they may actually not have a liquidity issue, and that this is just a banking issue. Which I think long term could be a real bullish when it finally gets resolved.
[2017-04-22 01:00:23] XBT_IHCT : But that's if they do indeed get it sorted out eventually.
[2017-04-22 01:01:00] InvalidUser : https://twitter.com/RobotFinance/status/778324389146263553?s=09
[2017-04-22 01:04:15] frog : InvalidUser: TY
[2017-04-22 01:04:31] XBT_IHCT : InvalidUser: are you still doubtful about finex liquidity then?
[2017-04-22 01:05:10] InvalidUser : frog: YW
[2017-04-22 01:05:34] frog : XBT_IHCT: IMO hard to be certain but ultimate owners will end up ok regardless
[2017-04-22 01:07:03] InvalidUser : XBT_IHCT: Well we can see that they have BTC in their cold wallet. My the rate that the addy is being depleted and how long will that last is my concern.
[2017-04-22 01:07:40] InvalidUser : There 73,000 BTC left
[2017-04-22 01:09:07] XBT_IHCT : you still have a fair bit of fingox et cetera fear then eh?
[2017-04-22 01:09:32] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: and the sell wall on finex is about $11m ?
[2017-04-22 01:09:45] MikeHunt : hmm price could go quite high?
[2017-04-22 01:12:38] InvalidUser : XBT_IHCT: This looks just like Gox, everything about it. Still non of us know what is up, and how much BTC is pulled out of Finex will determine if they survive this or not. The critical factor will be how much of a risk are people willing to take trusting an exchange again. This could last weeks or months.
[2017-04-22 01:13:19] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: an analogy is titanic, people didnt panic until around 2hrs after the ship hit the berg
[2017-04-22 01:13:31] MikeHunt : on fintanic people still think everything will be ok, so they trade as usual
[2017-04-22 01:13:52] InvalidUser : MikeHunt: It seems like they are trying to suppress the price with Polo and Finex. I think once we break ATH the market makers on Finex will bail and then it's all systems go for moon lunch.
[2017-04-22 01:14:17] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: +1
[2017-04-22 01:14:23] InvalidUser : MikeHunt: I would have had my BTC out the second I heard the news.
[2017-04-22 01:14:37] MikeHunt : they may also sell and try and do the 1 withdrawal they are supposedly allowed
[2017-04-22 01:14:58] InvalidUser : That is weeks away and is just an idea at the moment
[2017-04-22 01:15:19] XBT_IHCT : InvalidUser: how long have you been trading crypto?
[2017-04-22 01:16:03] InvalidUser : They are planning to bring 20ish million into a CDN bank and then ask them to convert it to cash. The bank is going to ask where the money came from and Bitcoin is not the correct answer.
[2017-04-22 01:16:47] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: i thought lawyer said they cant do that?
[2017-04-22 01:16:52] MikeHunt : or they doing it not via lawyer?
[2017-04-22 01:17:10] InvalidUser : XBT_IHCT: I have started trading in Jan 2013 but I stopped at the end of 2014 and just started up again in Dec
[2017-04-22 01:17:35] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: also, weeks away? fingox is near ATH right now
[2017-04-22 01:17:37] InvalidUser : MikeHunt: Last I heard the lawyer was trying to setup a trust to put the funds in.
[2017-04-22 01:17:38] MikeHunt : 1339 iirc
[2017-04-22 01:17:41] frog : @MikeHunt trade volume on finex went up dramatically after they offered one time usd exit and is now back to low level maybe around 8k btc out
[2017-04-22 01:17:44] InvalidUser : MikeHunt: Rgr
[2017-04-22 01:18:30] MikeHunt : frog: question is will everyone get out of they sell at ATH and go for exit
[2017-04-22 01:18:37] MikeHunt : or at any particular point
[2017-04-22 01:18:50] frog : MikeHunt: i think we know answer
[2017-04-22 01:19:58] mark121 : do tell
[2017-04-22 01:20:05] frog : "we the directors made every effort to avert crisis but unavoidable due to factors outside our control"
[2017-04-22 01:20:20] InvalidUser : Elevator music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcnUNgCtSOk
[2017-04-22 01:21:57] XBT_IHCT : InvalidUser: so you didn't get goxed then?
[2017-04-22 01:22:45] InvalidUser : No I was trading alts on BTCE
[2017-04-22 01:23:07] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/xOjNhmS.png
[2017-04-22 01:23:12] MikeHunt : courtesy of fingox
[2017-04-22 01:23:17] frog : InvalidUser: re BFX tokens was it a method to create equity to maintain solvency?
[2017-04-22 01:23:49] InvalidUser : yes
[2017-04-22 01:24:29] InvalidUser : And they just settled them for BTC so that is a decent chunk of change gone
[2017-04-22 01:25:08] frog : @InvalidUser now redeemed after banking problem could they use these to exit their cash prior to any "event"
[2017-04-22 01:25:18] MikeHunt : like any exchange thats fucked, they will prob try and keep it going as long as possiblew
[2017-04-22 01:26:05] frog : MikeHunt: while using bandaid to repair hole from iceberg?
[2017-04-22 01:26:14] InvalidUser : Also the USDT tokens that Polo uses instead of USD is an issue.
[2017-04-22 01:26:30] frog : InvalidUser: yes has not really been mentioned
[2017-04-22 01:27:06] InvalidUser : frog: I would be impressed if anyone would take those finex tokens at this point.
[2017-04-22 01:27:18] frog : InvalidUser: would be happier if they provided info about source of cash for redmeption
[2017-04-22 01:27:40] MikeHunt : frog: they've slowed it down by allowing 1 withdrawal and stopped fiat deposits
[2017-04-22 01:28:04] frog : MikeHunt: i think they offer 1 withdrawal to limit liabilty
[2017-04-22 01:28:13] MikeHunt : yeh
[2017-04-22 01:28:14] XBT_IHCT : Don't get me wrong, I lost a fair bit due to the finex "hack" thought it was an inside job for sure, but I also have to admit that as they have survived all that and it could turn out to be a very different situation to the whole gox nightmare eventually. @InvalidUser
[2017-04-22 01:28:19] InvalidUser : frog: There are a ton of reasons that the Canadian banks could refuse the transfer.
[2017-04-22 01:28:28] frog : no once can claim they had no chance to withdraw
[2017-04-22 01:28:40] ripcord : this "one time withdrawal" won't happen
[2017-04-22 01:28:42] MikeHunt : frog: could be a few reasons
[2017-04-22 01:28:59] MikeHunt : ripcord: like lifeboats on titanic, wont be enough
[2017-04-22 01:29:09] frog : MikeHunt: yeah all for benefit of owners rather than depositers
[2017-04-22 01:29:15] ripcord : it's a stall...won't even happen
[2017-04-22 01:29:32] MikeHunt : i think it will collapse once BTC stockpile runs out
[2017-04-22 01:29:38] ripcord : this is gox 2.0
[2017-04-22 01:29:42] MikeHunt : those left with cash are fucked prob
[2017-04-22 01:29:57] MikeHunt : apparently okcUSD is in same position
[2017-04-22 01:30:01] frog : if owners taking money out at this time it does not give you confidence
[2017-04-22 01:30:27] XBT_IHCT : ripcord: lol it still could be, for sure!
[2017-04-22 01:30:39] XBT_IHCT : I hope not though!
[2017-04-22 01:30:56] ripcord : XBT_IHCT: I hope not as well, but the signs are the same
[2017-04-22 01:31:34] ripcord : people were in denial about gox until the very end
[2017-04-22 01:31:37] frog : ripcord: similar for many companies that have similar issues not just crypto
[2017-04-22 01:31:41] InvalidUser : If you look at the finex cold wallet someone started pulling out a ton of BTC before the bank block announcement. Someone in the know was scared enough to pull their own BTC out on the 17th.
[2017-04-22 01:32:58] InvalidUser : About 11,000 BTC worth
[2017-04-22 01:33:00] frog : trading spike on 18th as people as clients try to do same
[2017-04-22 01:33:11] ripcord : damn
[2017-04-22 01:35:27] XBT_IHCT : Maybe I've been drinking the Phil Potter koolade too much without realising!
[2017-04-22 01:36:07] InvalidUser : (:
[2017-04-22 01:36:08] XBT_IHCT : hahaha but I truly hope not!
[2017-04-22 01:36:49] frog : price action looks like short closing causing spike with no-one wanting to establish new position despite huge arb opportunity
[2017-04-22 01:37:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 695000 @ 0.00002657
[2017-04-22 01:37:35] InvalidUser : This reabound should scare the shit out of the shorts on Polo OkDokycoin and Finex.
[2017-04-22 01:38:00] MikeHunt : 10k isnt unfeasible imo
[2017-04-22 01:38:33] MikeHunt : finex ath is 1336.40
[2017-04-22 01:38:35] MikeHunt : within $10 of it
[2017-04-22 01:38:44] ripcord : frog: there is no huge arb opportunity
[2017-04-22 01:38:47] InvalidUser : at some point people start refusing to sell their BTC because the price is going up so fast.
[2017-04-22 01:39:09] InvalidUser : Everyone fomos in and maket buys
[2017-04-22 01:39:23] frog : ripcord: not if want to get paid
[2017-04-22 01:39:39] XBT_IHCT : how is there a huge arb opportunity atm because everything is at a premium and you can't take fiat back out @frog
[2017-04-22 01:39:41] ripcord : the risk is too great...can't get money out
[2017-04-22 01:39:59] ripcord : free money just doesn't sit around for days
[2017-04-22 01:40:09] frog : XBT_IHCT: exactly would not happen under normal trading conditions
[2017-04-22 01:40:44] frog : this is like proof from market that there is issue
[2017-04-22 01:40:56] InvalidUser : Yup
[2017-04-22 01:42:02] InvalidUser : I knew something was up last week when stamp and gdax was trading so low.. . I thought it might be a problem with those two.. I was wrong they were fine and Finex was having the problems.
[2017-04-22 01:42:11] mark121 : dip coming
[2017-04-22 01:42:18] mark121 : small
[2017-04-22 01:42:24] mark121 : 20ish
[2017-04-22 01:43:01] XBT_IHCT : what do you think about finex?
[2017-04-22 01:43:48] mark121 : dont really think about it
[2017-04-22 01:44:14] XBT_IHCT : no fingox fear in you then? @mark121
[2017-04-22 01:44:56] InvalidUser : Me? I have nothing against them, I think Phil is a pretty smart guy, but like mark said I never gave them much though other then they are/were a market leader.
[2017-04-22 01:45:37] mark121 : same folks when we were at 600 then 800 then 1k and beyond every step of way couldnt get that first crash from over 1k out of their minds
[2017-04-22 01:45:38] InvalidUser : I had an issue with Phil playing politics and creating a BU token out of thin air.. But it looks like that Phils thing... Create a currency and sell it.
[2017-04-22 01:46:12] mark121 : are fixating on these kinda things
[2017-04-22 01:46:23] mark121 : what happens will happen and ill just trade the chart :)
[2017-04-22 01:46:48] InvalidUser : Creating tokens out of thin air might be the thing that kills Finex. People are going to want there BTC back and Finex is starting to run out of BTC
[2017-04-22 01:47:25] mark121 : isnt it all cause they have 180 mil held up by wells fargo
[2017-04-22 01:47:39] InvalidUser : No money is being held up by banks
[2017-04-22 01:47:59] InvalidUser : the banks are just refusing to process international transactions.
[2017-04-22 01:48:06] mark121 : ...
[2017-04-22 01:48:19] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-22 01:48:31] mark121 : thats what i meant by held up
[2017-04-22 01:48:38] mark121 : :)
[2017-04-22 01:49:00] mark121 : i was contacted by police out of blue
[2017-04-22 01:49:05] mark121 : here in Canada
[2017-04-22 01:49:11] mark121 : cus of BTC
[2017-04-22 01:49:23] mark121 : and my bank accounts have been frozen many times
[2017-04-22 01:49:23] InvalidUser : Realy? How did they connect you
[2017-04-22 01:49:31] mark121 : so i cant say im surprised
[2017-04-22 01:49:36] InvalidUser : Wow I have never had a problem.
[2017-04-22 01:50:05] mark121 : probably cause of the amount
[2017-04-22 01:50:13] InvalidUser : Could be
[2017-04-22 01:50:14] mark121 : i wasnt bothered with b4
[2017-04-22 01:50:48] mark121 : i told him i trade with btc
[2017-04-22 01:50:59] mark121 : i said lots of ppl do it
[2017-04-22 01:51:06] mark121 : hes like "PFFFTT, LOTS? Ya right"
[2017-04-22 01:51:27] mark121 : u kno what Bitcoin is used for right? he says
[2017-04-22 01:51:53] mark121 : I kno what lots of people think its used for.. i said
[2017-04-22 01:52:08] mark121 : money laundering !! he says
[2017-04-22 01:52:21] ripcord : bs
[2017-04-22 01:52:22] mark121 : was weird convo
[2017-04-22 01:52:28] mark121 : spooked my gf
[2017-04-22 01:52:34] InvalidUser : https://supload.com/S1TBDNuRx
[2017-04-22 01:52:49] mark121 : well its not bs, its partly true
[2017-04-22 01:52:54] mark121 : obviously its used for crime
[2017-04-22 01:52:55] mark121 : etc
[2017-04-22 01:53:14] ripcord : life must be great in lalaland
[2017-04-22 01:53:16] mark121 : sucked cus we were in bed so i couldnt pretend
[2017-04-22 01:53:26] mark121 : it wasnt the cops, so quiet she cud hear it lol
[2017-04-22 01:53:59] mark121 : ripcord: oh man, u r seriously insane lol
[2017-04-22 01:54:03] InvalidUser : I just found this. https://supload.com/S1C8vEuAl
[2017-04-22 01:54:27] ripcord : InvalidUser: that looks like mark
[2017-04-22 01:54:38] InvalidUser : ripcord: It is
[2017-04-22 01:54:55] mark121 : thought u knew rippy
[2017-04-22 01:57:10] mark121 : InvalidUser: ripcord is very insecure, one of those that hates others who arent
[2017-04-22 01:57:22] mark121 : ever since he was rude for literally no reason
[2017-04-22 01:57:41] mark121 : i embarrassed him a couple times, now hes like.. well u see how hes like
[2017-04-22 01:58:06] mark121 : anyhow - back on topic
[2017-04-22 01:58:30] mark121 : apparently they used some anti terror loophole to basically forensically analyze my accounts without a warrant
[2017-04-22 01:59:15] mark121 : it may have been related to an iranian friend of mine i invest for sending me some money (not sure chicken or the egg)