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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-04-21 03:09:29] Tommy : Just they don't have triple swap on Wednesdays. [2017-04-21 03:09:31] omicron : as a long, you will never make money unless market is crashing [2017-04-21 03:10:19] omicron : overall, fomo traders will pay ridiculous premium on inflated markets and shorts can eat the premium. thats the only way to trade this [2017-04-21 03:10:50] omicron : if i want to profitably long, i have to go with the futures [2017-04-21 03:11:18] Tommy : You can long June futures when the premium is low. [2017-04-21 03:11:34] Tommy : Then when the premium is high, you can sell and also take profit. [2017-04-21 03:11:36] omicron : yes, i need to set an alert and long it [2017-04-21 03:18:47] crmun : june will be on premium if we go up fast, if we drop it will be discount [2017-04-21 03:19:50] elmorte : How the hell do you open announcements on mobile? [2017-04-21 03:20:14] foobar : this orderbook should be really interesting in 40m [2017-04-21 03:20:33] mark121 : As a long u won't make money unless market is crashing ? [2017-04-21 03:21:46] mark121 : Maybe that's out of context and referring to funding but it's kinda silly still [2017-04-21 03:22:18] mark121 : Elmorte: I see the pop up too! [2017-04-21 03:25:08] elmorte : Yeah, I'm wondering if it's the same as the blog posts [2017-04-21 03:25:22] elmorte : Gonna boot up the desktop [2017-04-21 03:26:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 90 @ 0.00883 [2017-04-21 03:29:17] micmix : elmorte: it's the same as blog post but blog post gives detailed calculations [2017-04-21 03:32:21] omicron : bitmex price is dropping despite index rising, obviously traders unloading before funding kicks in [2017-04-21 03:32:50] aguia7 : /fork [2017-04-21 03:32:51] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 1164.80 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 146.79 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min``` [2017-04-21 03:41:23] mark121 : All of bitcoin moves based on bitmex funding.. it's the most known unknown opposite truth [2017-04-21 03:44:37] mark121 : Oh no... may need to drop some freestyles soon [2017-04-21 03:45:13] mark121 : I'm the man with the plan, I [2017-04-21 03:46:09] BitMEX_Arthur : Guys please check the announcements horn we just published a notice about changes to the swap funding rate calculation. [2017-04-21 03:47:13] omicron : BitMEX_Arthur: so the swap rate is now hard-coded amount? [2017-04-21 03:47:48] rapidgains : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [2017-04-21 03:48:05] omicron : ie not dependent on outside source? [2017-04-21 03:49:44] BitMEX_Arthur : No only the interest rate component which always came from an outside source. The market based premium or discount still works the same. [2017-04-21 03:50:14] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide [2017-04-21 03:50:29] BitMEX_Arthur : Please read that to understand the calculation [2017-04-21 03:51:51] omicron : ok thanks [2017-04-21 03:52:57] Tommy : It doesn't look like the change is going to affect the funding rate much, given the huge premium. [2017-04-21 03:53:55] InvalidUser : The fuetures market is bullish,,, No fux given about funding [2017-04-21 03:54:03] InvalidUser : futures [2017-04-21 03:54:06] mark121 : most who focus on funding rate rather than asset lose money im sure [2017-04-21 03:54:40] oo : btc soar. bet it all [2017-04-21 03:54:59] InvalidUser : I am at 23000 x [2017-04-21 03:57:39] mark121 : /sentiment [2017-04-21 03:57:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 43.82 / 56.18 Daily : 41.39 / 58.61 Weekly : 41.54 / 58.46 Monthly : 47.62 / 52.38``` [2017-04-21 03:58:57] Tommy : Did longs sell 2 minutes before the funding time to avoid paying? [2017-04-21 04:00:05] mark121 : likely will not workout if they want to reopen lol [2017-04-21 04:00:26] omicron : of course im guessing they are taking partial profits due to the big run [2017-04-21 04:01:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 40 @ 0.00905 [2017-04-21 04:07:04] cryptonoob : should we just ignore the funding rate listed then? and just assume it's just 0.03% [2017-04-21 04:07:26] guacamole : cryptonoob: no, that's just the interest component of the funding rate [2017-04-21 04:07:39] omicron : this shit is pretty hard to explain. bitmex must be exasperated explaining stuff over and over [2017-04-21 04:08:01] guacamole : interest meaning lending rates on margin exchanges (bitfinex) - funding also adds in a premium based on difference here between current price and index [2017-04-21 04:08:32] guacamole : click more details on the left if you want to read [2017-04-21 04:08:39] Tommy : It's not hard to explain. Irrational longs pay an auto-correct penalty to the other party. [2017-04-21 04:08:50] Tommy : Same if you short too low. [2017-04-21 04:09:04] mark121 : omicron its pretty basic .. ^ [2017-04-21 04:09:09] mark121 : what tommy said [2017-04-21 04:09:31] guacamole : sort of, if index and current price were equal, shorts would be paying interest now [2017-04-21 04:09:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : anyone understand the new lending rate? [2017-04-21 04:09:51] guacamole : it's just cutting bitfinex out of the calculation [2017-04-21 04:10:00] Tommy : guacamole: Yes, in an ideal world. [2017-04-21 04:12:34] omicron : wow i actually made money selling befre the funding and buying back later. maker order both times [2017-04-21 04:12:50] omicron : im surprised because i rarely win on the swap [2017-04-21 04:13:15] omicron : checkout the next funding .22% almost [2017-04-21 04:13:20] Tommy : I've seen bots doing this around funding time. [2017-04-21 04:13:36] omicron : i totally get the bot theory [2017-04-21 04:13:41] mark121 : i prefered selling at 1247-1248 [2017-04-21 04:13:44] omicron : its fast free money [2017-04-21 04:13:44] guacamole : yeah, shorts will pay the next round though if present keeps up, but who knows what will happen in 8 hours [2017-04-21 04:14:53] mark121 : 46-47* [2017-04-21 04:20:16] Dnavid : mark121: are you planning on buying again? [2017-04-21 04:21:15] mark121 : aye [2017-04-21 04:21:40] mark121 : still holding futures [2017-04-21 04:22:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 60 @ 0.00887 [2017-04-21 04:28:01] alfaCharlie : so this .2188% funding happening or not ? [2017-04-21 04:28:50] alfaCharlie : or it will be .03 % [2017-04-21 04:30:40] Tommy : You'll know it in 8 hours. [2017-04-21 04:34:24] alfaCharlie : 12 utc means .22% will happen , thanks tommy I didn't noticed the time [2017-04-21 04:34:55] thomaskikansha : .01 per 8 hour is the base [2017-04-21 04:35:17] Tommy : In an efficient market, it should stick to the posted rate, i.e. 0.03%. [2017-04-21 04:37:33] alfaCharlie : yup [2017-04-21 04:39:18] Tommy : rapid, I told you the premium for June will be higher [2017-04-21 04:39:50] Tommy : Skipping all the swap interest for $5 premium is sub-optimal. [2017-04-21 04:40:58] crmun : LOL bots on June went nuts [2017-04-21 04:44:24] thomaskikansha : okc quarts also got decent premium [2017-04-21 04:45:42] Tommy : It should be. Who knows when all of a sudden the Chinese exchanges will allow withdrawal. [2017-04-21 04:46:05] mark121 : lol... [2017-04-21 04:46:13] MikeHunt : monday perhaps [2017-04-21 04:46:20] MikeHunt : rumor is 23/24th [2017-04-21 04:46:29] crmun : quarts always playing their own game [2017-04-21 04:46:35] thomaskikansha : much work underway [2017-04-21 04:47:08] thomaskikansha : thats why okc cny went up I guess? [2017-04-21 04:50:20] mark121 : imo way to much significance assigned to the withdrawl issue - especially when its not required in the least to explain the movement [2017-04-21 04:50:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 10000 @ 0.00002519 [2017-04-21 04:50:49] mark121 : dont most criminals and launderers avoid USD over 10k anyway due to patriot act? [2017-04-21 04:53:13] mark121 : crypto community loves retrofitting price action - [2017-04-21 05:13:43] cryptonoob : 0.2188% funding rate for longs is just straight up rape [2017-04-21 05:13:56] cryptonoob : I closed my position, will wait for next round [2017-04-21 05:24:32] irvingtrader : Isnt't long funding gives you comitions, and short substact you? [2017-04-21 05:27:23] cryptonoob : irvingtrader: it varies, sometimes longs pay and sometimes shorts pay [2017-04-21 05:29:06] InvalidUser : cryptonoob: Use futures [2017-04-21 05:29:26] omicron : usually longs pay because .... well very few people know to short anyway [2017-04-21 05:30:25] cryptonoob : InvalidUser: They seem to have wider spread and lower volume [2017-04-21 05:32:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 40 @ 0.00002485 [2017-04-21 05:38:50] InvalidUser : It looks like Stamp has decided to join the party [2017-04-21 05:41:10] InvalidUser : Jpy on the move [2017-04-21 05:42:41] mark121 : omicron: incorrect [2017-04-21 05:43:30] mark121 : /sentiment [2017-04-21 05:43:33] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 50.74 / 49.27 Daily : 41.97 / 58.03 Weekly : 41.62 / 58.38 Monthly : 47.62 / 52.39``` [2017-04-21 05:43:42] KyllingLolsson : /price [2017-04-21 05:43:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1244.89 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1322.90 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1276.81 (0.00%) itBit : 1246.99 (0.00%) Kraken : 1244.33 (0.00%) GDAX : 1246.70 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min``` [2017-04-21 06:14:43] rapidtrades : china is barely up [2017-04-21 06:15:00] rapidtrades : same as west, nothing points to withdrawals [2017-04-21 06:18:03] KyllingLolsson : rapidtrades: u think we will pass ath before dump? [2017-04-21 06:18:10] mark121 : jesus [2017-04-21 06:18:23] rapidtrades : KyllingLolsson: could be by a bit [2017-04-21 06:18:32] rapidtrades : it should bounce there [2017-04-21 06:18:57] mark121 : KyllingLolsson: u have "dump" tunnel vision [2017-04-21 06:19:26] KyllingLolsson : mark121: but it cant race forever eh? what abt consolidation ? [2017-04-21 06:19:38] irvingtrader : so... who is selling? [2017-04-21 06:19:43] mark121 : KyllingLolsson: we just consolidated [2017-04-21 06:19:47] rapidtrades : its gonna dump in a matter of days [2017-04-21 06:19:53] KyllingLolsson : mark121: no consolidation is sideways [2017-04-21 06:19:56] mark121 : yes [2017-04-21 06:19:58] rapidtrades : its clear that this entire run from 890 was finex related [2017-04-21 06:20:00] KyllingLolsson : we would need a cpl of weeks of that [2017-04-21 06:20:07] mark121 : and we did [2017-04-21 06:20:13] irvingtrader : rapidtrades: 1d, 4h oscilations are crying for shorts.... [2017-04-21 06:20:14] KyllingLolsson : where? [2017-04-21 06:20:27] InvalidUser : There is still a lot of money stuck in Finex that needs to come out. [2017-04-21 06:20:28] mark121 : 7th to 19th [2017-04-21 06:20:50] mark121 : ok 10th [2017-04-21 06:20:57] KyllingLolsson : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/nkRNJXRp/ [2017-04-21 06:20:57] mark121 : but on a large timescale [2017-04-21 06:21:06] KyllingLolsson : this is what i want to see beforei gp bull [2017-04-21 06:21:10] rapidtrades : most insiders bailed weeks ago after they learned about WF issues [2017-04-21 06:21:26] rapidtrades : tokens paid off, bailed [2017-04-21 06:21:35] mark121 : not sure what that is k [2017-04-21 06:22:16] KyllingLolsson : mark121: you're a short term trader, in that sens yes it will go up [2017-04-21 06:22:20] mark121 : no [2017-04-21 06:22:30] rapidtrades : mark ur an idiot [2017-04-21 06:22:36] KyllingLolsson : but betwee the 7 to the 19th... [2017-04-21 06:22:37] mark121 : rapidtrades: stop talking pls [2017-04-21 06:22:55] mark121 : i didnt finish the thought [2017-04-21 06:23:00] mark121 : on the larger timeframes [2017-04-21 06:23:01] Actualiteit : good fucking moringine [2017-04-21 06:23:03] mark121 : weekly [2017-04-21 06:23:03] Actualiteit : mornign [2017-04-21 06:23:30] mark121 : sec [2017-04-21 06:23:33] mark121 : ipost [2017-04-21 06:24:58] KyllingLolsson : My logic goes like, can't have a boner doing coke forever. Same with btc. Needs to go soft and stop doing coke for a while! [2017-04-21 06:25:14] KyllingLolsson : justa little while! [2017-04-21 06:25:24] rapidtrades : ur logic is sound, only a matter of time [2017-04-21 06:25:25] mark121 : lol [2017-04-21 06:26:24] mark121 : KyllingLolsson: rapidtrades shouldnt be taken seriously , u kno that right? (sorry rapid) [2017-04-21 06:26:51] mark121 : and well, its to say what goes up must come down [2017-04-21 06:27:24] KyllingLolsson : mark121: i make up my own mind regardless of what he thinks... [2017-04-21 06:27:25] mark121 : but i find it strange how the fact that we went sub 900 is like totally forgotten [2017-04-21 06:27:42] mark121 : all of that was a pullback from the main trend [2017-04-21 06:28:18] InvalidUser : Only in BTC would someone mention coke and dick to reference to the price [2017-04-21 06:28:28] mark121 : and monero! [2017-04-21 06:28:29] mark121 : :p [2017-04-21 06:28:31] InvalidUser : * no to [2017-04-21 06:30:38] mark121 : KyllingLolsson: to be exact, 1260 zone is the final area id like to get by convincingly b4 i can b totally sure [2017-04-21 06:31:56] mark121 : altho thats more paranoia than anyting else [2017-04-21 06:32:56] mark121 : even on your chart u can see where we likely are on the iteration , explain the circled area im not sure how it applies [2017-04-21 06:33:56] rapidtrades : mark charts don't matter rn [2017-04-21 06:34:03] mark121 : cute [2017-04-21 06:34:07] rapidtrades : its all about when finex runs out of money [2017-04-21 06:34:10] mark121 : but dude, dont say that outloud [2017-04-21 06:34:44] rapidtrades : longs will be caught with their pants down as they were during the previos 3 crashes this year [2017-04-21 06:35:01] rapidtrades : 1 month gains lost in days [2017-04-21 06:35:44] KyllingLolsson : mark121: the circle area, is the kind of consolidation i want to see [2017-04-21 06:35:55] mark121 : i guess if u dont look at charts rapid [2017-04-21 06:35:59] mark121 : u cud get caught or cud have [2017-04-21 06:36:07] mark121 : but all of them were quite easy to spot [2017-04-21 06:36:08] mark121 : b4 hand [2017-04-21 06:36:24] mark121 : without argument i jus twant to point out.. [2017-04-21 06:36:24] InvalidUser : The only difference is that this time there is 50 million stuck in an exchange. [2017-04-21 06:36:33] InvalidUser : That needs to come out [2017-04-21 06:36:57] InvalidUser : There is about 100 mil left in Finex's accounts [2017-04-21 06:37:17] mark121 : until feb 17' of this year, BTC never once deviated from its fractal iterations [2017-04-21 06:37:26] KyllingLolsson : Its like saying, that your regular fiat bank wont let you withraw your money. And it's nothing to worry about. [2017-04-21 06:37:41] KyllingLolsson : damn i would go crazy if they did that [2017-04-21 06:38:01] InvalidUser : Plus we have seen this before [2017-04-21 06:38:08] InvalidUser : Everything is the same [2017-04-21 06:38:17] InvalidUser : The price the stories [2017-04-21 06:38:18] mark121 : they can withdraw every other currency ? [2017-04-21 06:38:41] InvalidUser : mark121: Nothing buy crypto is coming out of Finex. [2017-04-21 06:38:46] InvalidUser : *But [2017-04-21 06:39:09] mark121 : cool well as long as they can do that and there are many other exchanges [2017-04-21 06:39:49] InvalidUser : It looks like most of the exchanges will suffer the same fate [2017-04-21 06:40:02] InvalidUser : Stamp is pretty much the only one processing USD [2017-04-21 06:40:03] mark121 : lol [2017-04-21 06:40:28] mark121 : not rly [2017-04-21 06:40:37] KyllingLolsson : coinbase process EUR [2017-04-21 06:40:45] InvalidUser : They are not doing USD? [2017-04-21 06:40:55] KyllingLolsson : not that i know [2017-04-21 06:41:02] mark121 : they do.. [2017-04-21 06:41:05] mark121 : they are US based [2017-04-21 06:41:09] KyllingLolsson : na? [2017-04-21 06:41:11] InvalidUser : and that is just recent.? [2017-04-21 06:41:12] KyllingLolsson : holland? [2017-04-21 06:41:20] mark121 : huh [2017-04-21 06:41:38] InvalidUser : there bank is in Sylvania [2017-04-21 06:41:40] KyllingLolsson : no nerherlands [2017-04-21 06:41:55] mark121 : . We're based in San Francisco, California. [2017-04-21 06:42:11] InvalidUser : Most everyone else other then Kraken was using Taiwanese banks [2017-04-21 06:42:41] mark121 : this iss why most traders limit their media exposure, reading wise [2017-04-21 06:43:25] InvalidUser : lol [2017-04-21 06:43:30] KyllingLolsson : hmm tought that was netherlands [2017-04-21 06:43:41] rapidtrades : thats BS only finex used taiwan banks [2017-04-21 06:43:42] mark121 : u end up gettin tunnel vision [2017-04-21 06:43:51] mark121 : and dont think that isnt on purpose [2017-04-21 06:44:02] InvalidUser : I think what will happen is that the exchanges will start using Japaneses banks. They are very pro BTC [2017-04-21 06:44:12] InvalidUser : This will take a few weeks to set up [2017-04-21 06:44:19] mark121 : lol rapidtrades didnt think japan was down for BTC at all [2017-04-21 06:44:23] rapidtrades : stop talking bullshit [2017-04-21 06:44:29] rapidtrades : jap banks are not pro-BTC [2017-04-21 06:44:40] mark121 : dude since u told me that [2017-04-21 06:44:55] mark121 : by pure random ive seen two articles (u told me yesterday) [2017-04-21 06:44:57] rapidtrades : they wont even open accounts for foreigners over there u just talk BS [2017-04-21 06:45:12] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/google7zz.jpg [2017-04-21 06:45:23] mark121 : lol! [2017-04-21 06:45:25] rapidtrades : most western cards don't even ork in japan [2017-04-21 06:45:26] InvalidUser : My transfers go through Japan\ [2017-04-21 06:45:27] mark121 : exactly what i told him yetserday [2017-04-21 06:46:04] InvalidUser : You will see [2017-04-21 06:46:19] InvalidUser : THe US banks hate BTC so do not get your hopes up that is going to happen [2017-04-21 06:46:34] mark121 : http://howardlindzon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Bitcoin-2010.jpg [2017-04-21 06:46:45] InvalidUser : The US is not a market leader anymore they suppress markets to stay on top [2017-04-21 06:47:05] mark121 : 37 cent bitcoin bagholders! [2017-04-21 06:47:29] InvalidUser : Lol took me a sec [2017-04-21 06:47:36] mark121 : lol [2017-04-21 06:47:44] InvalidUser : I thought they were talking MXBT at first then I saw the date [2017-04-21 06:48:23] mark121 : haha, gosh i wish i put 100k in at .37 cent bitcoin [2017-04-21 06:49:11] InvalidUser : even a gnote at that price [2017-04-21 06:49:43] InvalidUser : In 4 years you will be saying the same thing about 1350 [2017-04-21 06:49:54] InvalidUser : AND rapid will still be short [2017-04-21 06:50:05] rapidtrades : yeah tha's what ppl said 3.5 years ago [2017-04-21 06:50:28] InvalidUser : You have made bank back then [2017-04-21 06:50:28] rapidtrades : and we're only up by $90 (most of it by pulling from liiquid exchange) [2017-04-21 06:50:45] InvalidUser : what ever works [2017-04-21 06:50:47] rapidtrades : InvalidUser: ur an idiot [2017-04-21 06:51:05] InvalidUser : TY,, coming from you makes that hurt so much more [2017-04-21 06:52:57] rapidtrades : /price [2017-04-21 06:52:58] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1241.00 (-0.31%) Bitfinex : 1318.50 (-0.33%) The Woodchipper : 1272.79 (-0.31%) itBit : 1245.50 (-0.12%) Kraken : 1242.91 (-0.11%) GDAX : 1248.78 (0.17%) SLQ : 1 hour, 9 mins``` [2017-04-21 06:53:03] rugu : /rekt [2017-04-21 06:53:03] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 14 hours, 36 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 192000 @ 1233.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 1 day, 8 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160002 @ 1208.5 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 1 day, 8 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 153767 @ 1186.7 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` [2017-04-21 06:53:53] mark121 : tell us about ltc rapidbarfs [2017-04-21 06:55:48] mark121 : im mining mad AEON [2017-04-21 06:56:03] mark121 : heard its gona be the next Inf8 [2017-04-21 06:56:15] InvalidUser : What algo do they use? [2017-04-21 06:56:47] mark121 : inf8 part was sarcastic [2017-04-21 06:56:52] mark121 : InvalidUser: good question [2017-04-21 06:57:00] mark121 : i dont know much about the tech side [2017-04-21 06:57:22] mark121 : im using minergate lol [2017-04-21 06:58:55] mark121 : are u experienced in that area? [2017-04-21 06:59:46] mark121 : i wanted to make my old pc into a dedicated mining machine (more for fun then profit) -- i imagine it wud be best to install some basic o/s [2017-04-21 07:00:07] mark121 : any suggestions? [2017-04-21 07:00:57] mark121 : its a 6 core i7 5th gen extreme edition [2017-04-21 07:01:07] InvalidUser : I have been using Nicehash to mine Eth and zcash this winter. [2017-04-21 07:01:12] InvalidUser : Just use win7 [2017-04-21 07:01:38] mark121 : is it profitable? [2017-04-21 07:02:43] rugu : InvalidUser: on which gpu, or are you buying hash power? [2017-04-21 07:02:52] mark121 : minergate is buggy with gpu mining [2017-04-21 07:03:06] InvalidUser : Only cause I have cheep power where I am and the heat it puts out off sets the price a bit [2017-04-21 07:03:23] InvalidUser : rugu: I have twin 390x\s [2017-04-21 07:03:31] rugu : asic? [2017-04-21 07:03:42] InvalidUser : AMD GPU's [2017-04-21 07:03:55] rugu : is that enough to actually mine? [2017-04-21 07:04:32] InvalidUser : It is profitable only because my power is so cheep and it provides a bit of heat [2017-04-21 07:04:55] InvalidUser : If your power is over 08 cents a kw its not worth it [2017-04-21 07:05:17] miccheck12 : iceland? @InvalidUser [2017-04-21 07:05:36] InvalidUser : It's included in my rent [2017-04-21 07:05:38] rapidtrades : InvalidUser: scrypt mining? [2017-04-21 07:05:48] mark121 : least AMD gpu's are good for something [2017-04-21 07:06:26] InvalidUser : lol [2017-04-21 07:07:24] InvalidUser : I am not too sure about this but I think there are a few algos that work good for Nvidia now [2017-04-21 07:07:54] InvalidUser : I switched to AMD a few years ago because they could hash at 2x the rate [2017-04-21 07:07:55] mark121 : some cryptos dont use gpu mining? or is that minergate [2017-04-21 07:08:23] InvalidUser : most now a days are script of some kind [2017-04-21 07:08:29] InvalidUser : GPU [2017-04-21 07:08:55] InvalidUser : any of them that are SHA-256 have ASICS [2017-04-21 07:08:58] mark121 : whats script mining vs? [2017-04-21 07:09:33] rugu : scrypt mining is more cpu intensive and asic are harder to make for it [2017-04-21 07:09:41] InvalidUser : and uses more me [2017-04-21 07:09:41] InvalidUser : meme [2017-04-21 07:09:46] InvalidUser : mem FFS [2017-04-21 07:09:59] rapidtrades : IT USES MORE MEMES! [2017-04-21 07:10:05] InvalidUser : lol [2017-04-21 07:10:23] InvalidUser : That will power Pepe cash the latest shit coin [2017-04-21 07:10:43] InvalidUser : Sry Shill coin [2017-04-21 07:12:13] mark121 : is it dipsy vipsy time [2017-04-21 07:12:19] InvalidUser : Pepe cash on Bit Mex @ 500x [2017-04-21 07:12:31] mark121 : is that a real thing [2017-04-21 07:12:37] mark121 : pepe cash [2017-04-21 07:13:12] mark121 : is it mexican ? :p [2017-04-21 07:13:14] InvalidUser : Thank god Stamps Vol is picking up, that was looking grim [2017-04-21 07:13:28] InvalidUser : mark121: Unfortunately Yes [2017-04-21 07:13:42] omicron : btc chart is weird axis shows 1244, when cursor is moved over bar, it shows 1246 [2017-04-21 07:13:46] InvalidUser : A lot of people are going to get burned on it too [2017-04-21 07:13:57] InvalidUser : omicron: Refresh [2017-04-21 07:19:55] mark121 : alts are ready to burn on a btc rally [2017-04-21 07:20:35] InvalidUser : Yup prepare for the Alt dump and a ton of shorts to close at Finex and go long. [2017-04-21 07:21:35] InvalidUser : Every time the price goes down at Finex an whale takes advantage of the low price to get out [2017-04-21 07:24:20] rugu : InvalidUser: you mean he closes a short? [2017-04-21 07:25:05] mark121 : wudnt be a whale for long if he waited to close longs during dips [2017-04-21 07:25:16] mark121 : :p [2017-04-21 07:25:58] rugu : well when a massive short is closed, prices can do a small bounce [2017-04-21 07:28:29] mark121 : rally [2017-04-21 07:31:40] thomaskikansha : finex whale getting out of his fiat balance? [2017-04-21 07:31:42] InvalidUser : rugu: There are whales stuck in Finex that are trying to figure out a way to get the BTC out with out paying a 70 premium. SO every-time the price dips on Finex someone buys it to try and GTFO driving the price back up [2017-04-21 07:31:49] InvalidUser : thomaskikansha: yes [2017-04-21 07:32:55] thomaskikansha : and finex premium keeps expanding [2017-04-21 07:33:21] InvalidUser : The longer they wait the more they are having to pay it seems. .This should snowball [2017-04-21 07:34:21] thomaskikansha : yet other exchanges like stamp and btce followed the rise [2017-04-21 07:36:00] thomaskikansha : I tried to short but it seems not rewarding for now [2017-04-21 07:36:25] InvalidUser : People competing for the Finex BTC coming in. [2017-04-21 07:36:49] Vintage : damn look at that funding rate [2017-04-21 07:36:58] Vintage : LONGS are gonna get a55 r4p3d [2017-04-21 07:37:07] Vintage : best have some vaseline handy [2017-04-21 07:37:22] InvalidUser : Buy futures [2017-04-21 07:37:45] zqooN : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz [2017-04-21 07:38:43] Vintage : InvalidUser: which is the futures tab? [2017-04-21 07:41:13] InvalidUser : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTM17 [2017-04-21 07:42:08] Vintage : XBTM17 [2017-04-21 07:42:13] Vintage : where is that tab here? [2017-04-21 07:42:36] Vintage : ok i see it Jun 30 (100x) [2017-04-21 07:42:43] Vintage : what is the x100 the lending rate? [2017-04-21 07:42:57] InvalidUser : Just to the right of the "Perpetual Swap" above the price [2017-04-21 07:43:12] thomaskikansha : max. leverage @Vintage [2017-04-21 07:43:12] Vintage : and it has not funding fee? [2017-04-21 07:43:17] InvalidUser : nope [2017-04-21 07:43:27] Vintage : whoa. so chances are i will get mega rekt by the bots here [2017-04-21 07:45:31] InvalidUser : GD BTC is impressive. Look at that wick at stamp [2017-04-21 07:50:02] mark121 : hopefully not a hangman [2017-04-21 07:50:35] CrazySteve : /price [2017-04-21 07:50:37] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1244.72 (0.30%) Bitfinex : 1314.00 (-0.34%) The Woodchipper : 1269.02 (-0.30%) itBit : 1244.89 (-0.05%) Kraken : 1244.40 (0.12%) GDAX : 1247.89 (-0.07%) SLQ : 57 mins``` [2017-04-21 07:51:24] InvalidUser : We should be fine, as people panic buy to get there BTC out the price will go up. [2017-04-21 07:52:13] InvalidUser : The longer they wait the worse it will get [2017-04-21 07:52:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 6966 @ 1255.8 [2017-04-21 07:53:28] thomaskikansha : new high on swap... [2017-04-21 07:53:30] InvalidUser : Kraken has a market where you can short USDT. Betting on if Finex will fail or not. [2017-04-21 07:53:45] InvalidUser : https://www.kraken.com/charts [2017-04-21 07:54:54] InvalidUser : Serves them right for making BTU coin [2017-04-21 07:56:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 15000 @ 0.00002452 [2017-04-21 07:56:22] InvalidUser : They created a currency pair out of nothing ,, and now those people want there BTC back [2017-04-21 07:58:52] mark121 : kraken got anew trading platform? [2017-04-21 07:59:18] CrazySteve : /sentiment [2017-04-21 07:59:20] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 68.28 / 31.72 Daily : 41.09 / 58.91 Weekly : 42.20 / 57.80 Monthly : 47.52 / 52.48``` [2017-04-21 08:00:06] InvalidUser : They bought Cryptowatch [2017-04-21 08:00:24] InvalidUser : other then that it's the same [2017-04-21 08:01:08] mark121 : well u can trade from cryptowatch now [2017-04-21 08:02:00] Vintage : ETC looking good also. [2017-04-21 08:04:20] rugu : whats with the rise in litecoin? [2017-04-21 08:05:45] frog : nothing i can see on twitter and no-one change signalling [2017-04-21 08:06:11] Tetsuo : people realized that LTC is highly undervalued [2017-04-21 08:06:36] frog : wang chun did tweet photo wearing UASF hat [2017-04-21 08:07:03] rugu : https://twitter.com/TheRealXinxi/status/855287626365939712 [2017-04-21 08:07:07] rugu : maybe cause of this [2017-04-21 08:08:35] mark121 : tetsuo: good one [2017-04-21 08:10:13] frog : rugu: hope they all have there hats [2017-04-21 08:12:47] omicron : /price [2017-04-21 08:12:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1242.23 (-0.20%) Bitfinex : 1317.70 (0.28%) The Woodchipper : 1272.06 (0.24%) itBit : 1245.40 (0.04%) Kraken : 1246.98 (0.21%) GDAX : 1249.67 (0.14%) SLQ : 22 mins``` [2017-04-21 08:13:15] omicron : haha bitfinex is totally out of whack [2017-04-21 08:13:25] omicron : soon it will be $100+ [2017-04-21 08:17:29] frog : ltc on polo go up shortly after price jump on finex for LTC/USD [2017-04-21 08:20:16] InvalidUser : The other thing I was thinking about was If I was in Finex and wanted out. When I got out and the price was going up like mad would I convert back to USD or hold BTC and try to recover what I lost having to buy Finex-BTC [2017-04-21 08:20:27] InvalidUser : Thats a coin now [2017-04-21 08:22:01] omicron : banks are trying to kill finex [2017-04-21 08:22:43] mark121 : btc* [2017-04-21 08:22:51] Actualiteit : me* [2017-04-21 08:22:54] omicron : they will come after whoever grows big [2017-04-21 08:23:02] omicron : bitmex next yr [2017-04-21 08:23:17] InvalidUser : It is kind of hard to mess with Bitmex [2017-04-21 08:23:21] omicron : unless this is all a scheme orchestrated by kraken [2017-04-21 08:23:27] mark121 : omicron mostly talks out of his bum [2017-04-21 08:23:38] omicron : hey mark, just learning from you [2017-04-21 08:23:45] mark121 : ouch [2017-04-21 08:23:49] InvalidUser : They are located on an island off the coast of Africa and do not deal in any gov currency. [2017-04-21 08:24:14] omicron : ya, i think most derivatives exchanges are like that [2017-04-21 08:24:20] mark121 : lol [2017-04-21 08:24:32] mark121 : oh gosh [2017-04-21 08:24:41] mark121 : finex's problem comes from wells fargo [2017-04-21 08:24:44] mark121 : heard of em? [2017-04-21 08:24:49] Actualiteit : who [2017-04-21 08:24:57] mark121 : lol :D [2017-04-21 08:25:01] omicron : wells fargo, then taiwan banks. [2017-04-21 08:25:17] omicron : luck is not with them since bitgo sold them snake oil [2017-04-21 08:25:27] Actualiteit : just some small fish swimming in my pond. [2017-04-21 08:25:33] mark121 : fa sho [2017-04-21 08:25:51] omicron : meanwhile bitgo is making deals wtf [2017-04-21 08:26:49] InvalidUser : BIP 100 is on coin dance [2017-04-21 08:26:55] InvalidUser : https://coin.dance/blocks [2017-04-21 08:28:06] Actualiteit : more facions in the btc blockwars [2017-04-21 08:28:09] Actualiteit : just what we need aye [2017-04-21 08:28:32] InvalidUser : most are asking for the same thing and would unify if need be [2017-04-21 08:28:50] InvalidUser : only one is refusing to corporate . [2017-04-21 08:28:54] omicron : compromise 2MB+segwit got no tration [2017-04-21 08:29:18] omicron : i thought it was a good idea, time to move off this subway station we have been stuck for 18 months [2017-04-21 08:29:45] mark121 : speak for yourself [2017-04-21 08:29:48] mark121 : i take private jets [2017-04-21 08:29:54] InvalidUser : Core will never allow larger blocks no matter what. Is will slow down adoption of second layer products. [2017-04-21 08:30:07] InvalidUser : *it [2017-04-21 08:30:30] omicron : so why dont the miners just run big block software [2017-04-21 08:31:14] InvalidUser : They will shut down BIP 100 also.. I think BIP 100 is a trick to show that core will not compromise . [2017-04-21 08:31:33] InvalidUser : omicron: About 50% of them are signaling for larger blocks [2017-04-21 08:31:52] InvalidUser : When we hit 75% we will fork and get this problem fixed once and for all [2017-04-21 08:33:29] mark121 : awe i just found out why sleger is so hostile w/ me [2017-04-21 08:34:46] mark121 : all the way back in jan i hurt his feelings [2017-04-21 08:35:20] mark121 : seems he stopped using TV after that [2017-04-21 08:35:36] InvalidUser : Damn, I can't remember what happened yesterday. [2017-04-21 08:35:52] mark121 : weird - but someone posted "Yah ask @Kantardziski what happened when I exposed him" [2017-04-21 08:36:19] mark121 : that must be him [2017-04-21 08:36:29] mark121 : who else talks like that [2017-04-21 08:37:20] mark121 : it all makes sense now [2017-04-21 08:37:32] Aegis : btc will hit ATH on stamp [2017-04-21 08:38:21] Actualiteit : ok [2017-04-21 08:39:12] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpNpDM-enLw [2017-04-21 08:39:37] bubbagoose : hold quark this thing is about to dump hard [2017-04-21 08:40:04] atlanta : bubbagoose: Yeah, but we've been saying that for a month now. [2017-04-21 08:40:30] bubbagoose : no, just the past 24hr [2017-04-21 08:40:49] atlanta : bubbagoose: Welcome to the party then, it's been nearly a month since BFX funny business started. [2017-04-21 08:40:55] atlanta : Look at the rise from 888 [2017-04-21 08:41:59] bubbagoose : oh yeah waiting for this level to place acceptable short position on any freak fakeouts and this is it fuelled by fake bitfinex money [2017-04-21 08:42:13] mark121 : ya fa sho [2017-04-21 08:42:27] mark121 : do it up omnicron styl3z [2017-04-21 08:44:55] InvalidUser : Another 2.5 mill just got moved out of Finex's cold wallet [2017-04-21 08:45:25] mark121 : of btc? [2017-04-21 08:45:27] mark121 : i gues so [2017-04-21 08:45:32] InvalidUser : Yes 2000 coins [2017-04-21 08:45:44] mark121 : less it was a refrigerated giant vault nicknamed the wallet [2017-04-21 08:45:47] omicron : that's probably gone to their hot wallet [2017-04-21 08:46:04] InvalidUser : omicron: Then out of Finex (: [2017-04-21 08:46:17] omicron : ya, well what do you expect [2017-04-21 08:46:34] omicron : i'd move my money out. gox is fresh in the memory of traders [2017-04-21 08:46:41] InvalidUser : I expect them to trade the BTC for there clients USD [2017-04-21 08:47:01] omicron : they cant legally do shit [2017-04-21 08:47:20] omicron : they just have to let everyone take coins out. market makers will be left with usd [2017-04-21 08:47:38] omicron : and if its 10 mm or so, then bitfinex can give them suitcases full of money [2017-04-21 08:47:38] InvalidUser : I would hate to be a market maker on there right now [2017-04-21 08:48:09] omicron : im sure a few of them have exited [2017-04-21 08:48:21] InvalidUser : I was thinking the same thing [2017-04-21 08:48:55] omicron : fuck, finex was 800 lb gorilla a year ago. today its the only woman in a group of men but has leprosy [2017-04-21 08:49:13] InvalidUser : lol Damn [2017-04-21 08:49:15] omicron : the men (traders) fvck her but very carefluly [2017-04-21 08:49:21] omicron : some lose their tip [2017-04-21 08:49:43] omicron : they dunno, if they go in, is everything coming out or not [2017-04-21 08:50:14] omicron : wall at 1250 [2017-04-21 08:50:55] InvalidUser : FFS some one is trying to copy Pepe cash now. Shit coin 2.0 [2017-04-21 08:51:30] InvalidUser : https://coinidol.com/suspicion-of-insider-trading-at-poloniex/ [2017-04-21 08:51:36] Actualiteit : oi dont talk like that about my rare pepes [2017-04-21 08:51:42] InvalidUser : lol [2017-04-21 08:51:51] InvalidUser : Do you hold any? [2017-04-21 08:52:43] mark121 : he holds mine from time to time [2017-04-21 08:53:01] InvalidUser : Nice! [2017-04-21 08:53:17] bubbagoose : PEPECASH is cool but your a god damn noob if your not going balls deep in PEPE or MEME on bittrex [2017-04-21 08:53:26] InvalidUser : lol [2017-04-21 08:53:53] InvalidUser : The new one is Rare Meme WOrld [2017-04-21 08:54:46] InvalidUser : Someone should make one about a shitty ex gf so it will be on the blockchain forever [2017-04-21 08:56:14] Actualiteit : InvalidUser: yeh bought 600k at 150 sats or so [2017-04-21 08:56:27] Actualiteit : unloading for the last few days [2017-04-21 08:56:40] InvalidUser : Nice,, It should pop when the noobs hear about it [2017-04-21 08:56:40] Actualiteit : volume is shite tho [2017-04-21 08:56:51] Actualiteit : and tux is shite as well [2017-04-21 08:59:07] InvalidUser : It should pick up, I am sure 4chan is all over it [2017-04-21 09:01:53] InvalidUser : Actualiteit: IS there any way to tell what card you are buying on an exchange? [2017-04-21 09:03:22] Actualiteit : what? [2017-04-21 09:03:25] Actualiteit : you can buy cards with cash [2017-04-21 09:03:29] Actualiteit : on thei dex [2017-04-21 09:04:01] Dnavid : Fasten seat belts [2017-04-21 09:04:04] Actualiteit : system is fucking shit slow as its all xcp assets [2017-04-21 09:04:04] InvalidUser : I thought that's what Pepe cash was.. Cards. No? [2017-04-21 09:04:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 229786 @ 1252.4 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2017-04-21 09:04:18] InvalidUser : Lots more Rekts inbound [2017-04-21 09:04:38] InvalidUser : Now we scare the shorts on Finex [2017-04-21 09:04:54] shillosopher : there is PEPECASH and then there are RARE PEPEs [2017-04-21 09:05:14] InvalidUser : O ic I thought they were the same thing.. I don't know much about it [2017-04-21 09:05:22] Actualiteit : the cars are all little ponzis atm tho, everyone just buying them and immediately selling for higher price [2017-04-21 09:05:27] shillosopher : then there is a shitcoin PEPE/MEME memetic thing which is unrelated [2017-04-21 09:06:06] bubbagoose : the pepe/meme one is going to be bigger imo [2017-04-21 09:07:00] bubbagoose : I get them all because no matter what its going to be good for pepe [2017-04-21 09:07:09] shillosopher : bubbagoose: got a bigger bag of pepe/meme ? lol [2017-04-21 09:08:09] bubbagoose : shillosopher: more on pep cash right now but unless it gets a bigger exchange I will start selling a little to diversify [2017-04-21 09:08:15] Ahhere : Ok all above 1250. Keep arms & legs inside the vehicle guise. [2017-04-21 09:10:23] InvalidUser : We should have shook out all the weak hands by now [2017-04-21 09:11:23] mark121 : dash is on the edge [2017-04-21 09:11:30] mark121 : contemplating... [2017-04-21 09:11:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00909 [2017-04-21 09:12:17] mark121 : coinicide [2017-04-21 09:13:40] mark121 : dash chart is closest to jus an upside down btc chart [2017-04-21 09:17:33] InvalidUser : https://coinsalad.com/info/unique-bitcoin-exchange-arbitrage-opportunities-are-presenting-themselves-amid-usd-banking-problems/ [2017-04-21 09:17:38] shiroe : wow 1253 :D [2017-04-21 09:18:15] omicron : it probably will pullback now that everyoneis impressed [2017-04-21 09:18:58] Actualiteit : would be nice [2017-04-21 09:19:50] omicron : somewhere to 1230 would be nice [2017-04-21 09:20:07] omicron : y'no what imma buy just above 1230 [2017-04-21 09:20:26] omicron : ho ho ho dropping like that slut kim kardashians panties [2017-04-21 09:20:46] omicron : when the pimp is in the crib ma, drop it like its hot [2017-04-21 09:21:41] Actualiteit : lol [2017-04-21 09:22:01] mark121 : it just broke out [2017-04-21 09:22:20] rugu : i took a short at 1252 just now [2017-04-21 09:22:22] mark121 : so a pullback now wud be.. a lil strange [2017-04-21 09:22:31] mark121 : i hope not