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[2015-11-30 00:24:00] Swedishnut : a bit but not really. We are early adopters
[2015-11-30 00:24:13] messiaen8844 : no, when we hit the right target we will gown down, fast and furiously
[2015-11-30 00:24:15] rapidtrades : we are not early adopters sir...
[2015-11-30 00:24:29] rapidtrades : it's 6 years now and we're trading bitcoin future
[2015-11-30 00:24:33] rapidtrades : *s
[2015-11-30 00:24:45] Swedishnut : sure are when you think companies are not vetted really until 10
[2015-11-30 00:38:12] podizzle3k : just wait until china devalues cny tomorrow
[2015-11-30 00:38:19] podizzle3k : then the fireworks start
[2015-11-30 00:39:53] podizzle3k : wuahhaha
[2015-11-30 00:41:17] messiaen8844 : here we go
[2015-11-30 00:45:31] podizzle3k : damn
[2015-11-30 00:46:17] rapidtrades : damn indeed
[2015-11-30 00:46:21] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-30 00:46:23] wurstgelee : damn
[2015-11-30 00:46:34] messiaen8844 : rapid: didn't I told you two days ago to long in the 7D ;D
[2015-11-30 00:46:35] messiaen8844 : ?
[2015-11-30 00:47:11] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: I told u 2 days ago to go f*uck yourself
[2015-11-30 00:47:27] messiaen8844 : yes, I like to masturbate
[2015-11-30 00:47:41] messiaen8844 : fucking myself is fun
[2015-11-30 00:48:01] JACOBcze : rapidtrades
[2015-11-30 00:48:06] JACOBcze : u realize u can just call top every 5$
[2015-11-30 00:48:09] JACOBcze : while longing it
[2015-11-30 00:48:11] JACOBcze : and make a fortune
[2015-11-30 00:48:15] JACOBcze : u have the power
[2015-11-30 00:48:16] JACOBcze : use it
[2015-11-30 00:48:35] podizzle3k : youre about to get the bird
[2015-11-30 00:48:47] ayy lmao : lol
[2015-11-30 00:48:52] wurstgelee : 2420 smashed
[2015-11-30 00:49:30] sleger : rapidstuff doesnt realize, he just trolls
[2015-11-30 00:50:08] wurstgelee : also good support @ 2400
[2015-11-30 00:51:08] podizzle3k : this doesnt seem like the kind of pump that fizzles out and dumps. seems more like the kind that goes wayyyy to high first
[2015-11-30 00:51:33] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: saving that quote for late
[2015-11-30 00:51:38] rapidtrades : *r
[2015-11-30 00:51:44] rapidtrades : this chat is wonky
[2015-11-30 00:51:55] podizzle3k : sorry if that upset you
[2015-11-30 00:52:59] podizzle3k : okcoin contract holders have a long way to go
[2015-11-30 00:53:39] Swedishnut : so I was thinking on my drive. What if there was a "Satoshi Scratch'r" where you could print on either side and reveal a instantly redeemable amount of BTC
[2015-11-30 00:56:41] podizzle3k : they have online versions of it not sure about physical scratch offs
[2015-11-30 00:58:22] wurstgelee : like Prypto cards?
[2015-11-30 00:58:30] podizzle3k : yeah but lottery ones
[2015-11-30 00:58:36] wurstgelee : ah k
[2015-11-30 00:58:52] wurstgelee : 2420. more up
[2015-11-30 01:00:27] wurstgelee : MOAR
[2015-11-30 01:00:41] messiaen8844 : yes, 2470
[2015-11-30 01:01:57] messiaen8844 : cool situation when new ups just give new buy signs on higher time frames and it keeps going and going
[2015-11-30 01:02:35] messiaen8844 : that's when you must forget usual overbought conditions, RSI can stay high for quite a while
[2015-11-30 01:02:43] Swedishnut : BTC beast is on fire NOM NOM
[2015-11-30 01:03:14] zanza : next stop moon botys
[2015-11-30 01:03:50] messiaen8844 : same for bollinger bands, when it just WALKS THE BANDS, quite explosive
[2015-11-30 01:04:24] rapidtrades : it's explosive until it shits the bed
[2015-11-30 01:05:01] messiaen8844 : not the kind of the movmeent you want to scalp
[2015-11-30 01:05:11] messiaen8844 : because you miss the explosive upside
[2015-11-30 01:05:23] messiaen8844 : and get rekt easily because of those movements
[2015-11-30 01:06:32] podizzle3k : yes explosive movements and this trading platform is like walking a tightrope during a hurricane
[2015-11-30 01:06:39] podizzle3k : and theres a pile of money on the other sid
[2015-11-30 01:06:45] podizzle3k : ifyou can just make it
[2015-11-30 01:07:13] podizzle3k : you can try to run for it or go slow both ways could work
[2015-11-30 01:07:23] messiaen8844 : not really, just don't overleverage and ride the correct movements
[2015-11-30 01:07:53] podizzle3k : even then you have that isolation button and check mark of doom
[2015-11-30 01:07:54] messiaen8844 : leave enough room for fibo corrections
[2015-11-30 01:08:06] podizzle3k : which reminds me i want to set everything to confirm like it is on mobile
[2015-11-30 01:08:08] rapidtrades : everyone's so wise when things go up with 0 retracement
[2015-11-30 01:08:20] rapidtrades : what could posibly go wrong here...
[2015-11-30 01:08:22] Swedishnut : yeah don't let kids click those check marks :P
[2015-11-30 01:08:23] podizzle3k : rapidtrades haha
[2015-11-30 01:08:33] podizzle3k : rapidtrades dont you see its going to go up forev
[2015-11-30 01:08:48] wurstgelee : btc lost gravity
[2015-11-30 01:08:49] Swedishnut : until the printers stop yes
[2015-11-30 01:09:09] podizzle3k : the period of bitcoin going down is over. there will be no correction, no retracement, no consolidation
[2015-11-30 01:09:18] babybaby : go LONG
[2015-11-30 01:09:21] podizzle3k : lol
[2015-11-30 01:09:23] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: sounds ligit
[2015-11-30 01:09:28] podizzle3k : babybaby knows
[2015-11-30 01:10:01] Swedishnut : Now is the time this is the moment :P
[2015-11-30 01:10:07] podizzle3k : thats why im all in 100x long isolated no margin added
[2015-11-30 01:10:08] podizzle3k : no risk
[2015-11-30 01:10:52] podizzle3k : bbl
[2015-11-30 01:11:03] rapidtrades : bbl? loooool
[2015-11-30 01:11:07] wurstgelee : haha, same
[2015-11-30 01:11:14] wurstgelee : good night everyone
[2015-11-30 01:11:44] cataquil : short 380 out 382.10...providing liquidity, not emotionally attached
[2015-11-30 01:12:42] podizzle3k : cold blooded
[2015-11-30 01:13:20] rapidtrades : cataquil: I almost shorted that...but this market is scary atm
[2015-11-30 01:13:24] rapidtrades : needs to break first
[2015-11-30 01:13:29] rapidtrades : die b1tch die
[2015-11-30 01:13:41] cataquil : yeah its always the chinese
[2015-11-30 01:14:05] cataquil : now its 1am in london and I gotta crash or else I will be fucked for work
[2015-11-30 01:14:06] rapidtrades : meh don't think so, there's not much of a premium
[2015-11-30 01:14:16] rapidtrades : wtf...
[2015-11-30 01:14:35] cataquil : lol mistype...sleep deprived not caressed lol
[2015-11-30 01:14:55] wurstgelee : 2:14 am here :/
[2015-11-30 01:15:02] messiaen8844 : 23 pm here
[2015-11-30 01:15:31] messiaen8844 : I don't work tomorrow morning ;), let's see if the chinese brings more fun in the next hours
[2015-11-30 01:15:57] wurstgelee : time to hit the bed
[2015-11-30 01:16:00] wurstgelee : gnight again
[2015-11-30 01:16:08] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: gn
[2015-11-30 01:17:32] cataquil : 34000 seller
[2015-11-30 01:19:06] cataquil : now titght spreads
[2015-11-30 01:19:25] cataquil : 0.03 thats like the tightest I have seen
[2015-11-30 01:19:42] rapidtrades : ...aaaaaand its gone
[2015-11-30 01:19:47] cataquil : fukin 0.7 before...its alot
[2015-11-30 01:19:52] cataquil : yeah they took it off
[2015-11-30 01:20:03] cataquil : interesting to watch price here compared to spot
[2015-11-30 01:20:28] sleger : "they" ? how many people do you think it takes to put a 34000 order ?
[2015-11-30 01:21:12] cataquil : 1 they can be singular as well as plural
[2015-11-30 01:22:02] cataquil : ah the bully is back
[2015-11-30 01:22:33] sleger : can't leave a victime alone, right ;)
[2015-11-30 01:23:39] sleger : *victim
[2015-11-30 01:25:35] cataquil : well if you want to nitpick my grammer, they more like a crime
[2015-11-30 01:26:32] rapidtrades : we're overdue for a major dumpage
[2015-11-30 01:26:47] rapidtrades : elephant size
[2015-11-30 01:27:23] rapidtrades : maybe now maybe at $400 but I feel its coming
[2015-11-30 01:27:58] messiaen8844 : BUY BUY BUY BUY
[2015-11-30 01:28:20] rapidtrades : not short yet :)
[2015-11-30 01:28:33] messiaen8844 : you said yet and we are up 5 CNY in few seconds
[2015-11-30 01:28:45] messiaen8844 : *said it
[2015-11-30 01:29:36] messiaen8844 : look at daily and weekly, still more upside to this
[2015-11-30 01:29:44] rapidtrades : I may not short at all today...things still look scary
[2015-11-30 01:31:31] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: daily looks a bit better, but weekly is awful tbh
[2015-11-30 01:31:58] messiaen8844 : tbh?
[2015-11-30 01:32:04] rapidtrades : to be honest
[2015-11-30 01:34:51] rapidtrades : he pullled the wall...lil bitch
[2015-11-30 02:18:55] messiaen8844 : lol, just after I sell 50% of my 7D
[2015-11-30 02:21:49] rapidtrades : well u stil have 50% left :)
[2015-11-30 02:26:06] messiaen8844 : big wall on finex @ 380, the final frontier ;)
[2015-11-30 02:26:26] messiaen8844 : bearREKT point
[2015-11-30 02:27:22] rapidtrades : f*uck finex
[2015-11-30 02:31:25] sleger : rapidtrades: own your actions
[2015-11-30 02:31:37] sleger : while I own your money $$$
[2015-11-30 02:32:04] sleger : taking profitsssssssss here
[2015-11-30 02:33:13] laisee : good profits last 24 hrs
[2015-11-30 02:33:28] messiaen8844 : my alarms keep ringing man
[2015-11-30 02:34:48] laisee : yep. 400 approachs ..
[2015-11-30 02:36:09] rapidtrades : laisee: that's just ur dad with a dildo
[2015-11-30 02:36:33] laisee : 1.7885 XBT (167.98%)
[2015-11-30 02:37:49] messiaen8844 : daily or 7D?
[2015-11-30 02:38:15] laisee : nah
[2015-11-30 02:38:29] laisee : yah
[2015-11-30 02:39:20] laisee : i foregot
[2015-11-30 02:40:18] messiaen8844 : foreGOX?
[2015-11-30 02:41:04] laisee : don't want any mini-whales 2 short my contract
[2015-11-30 02:41:40] messiaen8844 : yay 3.6 BTC withhold profit. Best day ever
[2015-11-30 02:45:02] rapidtrades : is the order value an accurate representation of how much BTC I'm long/short
[2015-11-30 02:46:24] sleger : how long have you been around seriously... ?
[2015-11-30 02:47:03] Swedishnut : nice up it continues
[2015-11-30 02:48:02] sleger : you really don't seem to have understood much during all this time, besides spamming the trollbox all this time... the answer to your question is : yes, as long as the fair price is around your order price. Then convexity kicks in but I guess you would not understand what that means
[2015-11-30 02:48:56] Swedishnut : convexity would be like a whirlpool if you clearly overbought or sold the market?
[2015-11-30 02:49:22] rapidtrades : sleger: dickhead
[2015-11-30 02:50:22] sleger : rapidtrades: so 1. you are the biggest troll ever, 2. you still dont understand anything how futures work after all this time and 3. you insult people who do and try to explain you somehow ?
[2015-11-30 02:50:59] sleger : Awesome human being you are... Sure adding great value to the world
[2015-11-30 02:52:07] Swedishnut : well he is learning though and if you factor his actions in it is nothing different than real life
[2015-11-30 02:53:21] sleger : Swedishnut: read again
[2015-11-30 02:53:48] messiaen8844 : short time
[2015-11-30 02:56:34] habibi : liq?
[2015-11-30 02:59:46] Swedishnut : I did just get back from a late dinner now. Steak for celebration of 375 call
[2015-11-30 03:00:08] laisee : and wine?
[2015-11-30 03:01:18] Swedishnut : no wine just whiskey and 7up/sprite/clear sugar soda
[2015-11-30 03:01:36] Swedishnut : I'm all good for trading today myself :P
[2015-11-30 03:02:24] Swedishnut : just wanted to hop on and say hi. You guys are pretty much my only outlet sometimes for my thoughts and I thank you for not shooting me in the face with criticism
[2015-11-30 03:03:02] HotDogs : Swedishnut: Bitcoin therapy thanks to BitMEX
[2015-11-30 03:03:04] habibi : np, just pay some money into bitmex rapidtrades helping fund.
[2015-11-30 03:03:11] Swedishnut : especially when my ex-gf is in the basement playing the songs we used to listen too and banging my old mechanic friend...ex friend...
[2015-11-30 03:03:59] habibi : bitmex should be paying him for contribute of the best bitcoin trend indicator ever. best calls for best exchange players!
[2015-11-30 03:04:03] Swedishnut : I would have been that gullible guy to donate to an address in troll box... I believe people are generally good.
[2015-11-30 03:04:31] habibi : u should shoot her.
[2015-11-30 03:04:32] Swedishnut : rapidtrades is firey but I like him and would give him a hug
[2015-11-30 03:04:35] habibi : i mean with dildo or sth
[2015-11-30 03:04:37] Swedishnut : or her
[2015-11-30 03:05:26] messiaen8844 : hey swedish, I feel for your loliness, no one is online when you are lol
[2015-11-30 03:05:37] habibi : btw why ur ex gf is playing with other guy in ur basement
[2015-11-30 03:05:43] habibi : its some kind of therapy or sth?
[2015-11-30 03:06:03] Swedishnut : IF I were to play the game right now I can see a drop to 374.27 and a leap back to 377 and settle for OK at 375.11 then Bitmex runs with it for XYZ until 391
[2015-11-30 03:06:07] messiaen8844 : actually one of this day I was, but this chat doesn't work on my tablet for some reason
[2015-11-30 03:08:50] messiaen8844 : time for the retrace
[2015-11-30 03:08:51] Swedishnut : also news in USa for Black Friday it was the worst sales ever and some how folks lost Billions
[2015-11-30 03:10:10] messiaen8844 : here in Brazil merchants are such pricks that they raise prices a LOT just before black friday then sell if for actually HIGHER than it's normally and said it's promo
[2015-11-30 03:10:13] messiaen8844 : *say
[2015-11-30 03:10:23] habibi : messiaen8844: happens everywhere
[2015-11-30 03:10:39] habibi : from west europe to east
[2015-11-30 03:10:56] messiaen8844 : yeah, but here it's even worse, brazilians aren't strong on ethics
[2015-11-30 03:11:21] habibi : and in usa i think i saw some photos presenting lower price slips under the actuals
[2015-11-30 03:19:21] Swedishnut : messiaen8844: that happens all over the world.
[2015-11-30 03:23:42] messiaen8844 : :P
[2015-11-30 03:23:59] messiaen8844 : fuck black friday then
[2015-11-30 03:31:37] laisee : black friday ... fake buying frenzy ...
[2015-11-30 03:42:59] messiaen8844 : two days ago I had a stupid long position, way too many contracts, and market maker removed all li
[2015-11-30 03:43:05] messiaen8844 : liquidity
[2015-11-30 03:43:48] messiaen8844 : thought I would be rekt , then sold 40% of my position and suddenly there was snowball liquidation. price went $7 below market pi
[2015-11-30 03:45:31] Swedishnut : you folks like Rock and Morty?
[2015-11-30 03:45:38] Swedishnut : Rick?
[2015-11-30 03:46:11] messiaen8844 : took a minute before bots realized they were selling contracts at an absurd pri
[2015-11-30 03:46:19] messiaen8844 : what's that
[2015-11-30 03:46:31] gaoMex : messiaen8844: which contract?
[2015-11-30 03:46:52] messiaen8844 : I think it was 2
[2015-11-30 03:47:19] messiaen8844 : 2
[2015-11-30 03:47:37] gaoMex : 24hr?
[2015-11-30 03:47:39] messiaen8844 : lag keeps cutting my words. 24h
[2015-11-30 03:48:26] gaoMex : yea... it's a concern. Probably good to restrict leverage
[2015-11-30 03:49:41] messiaen8844 : I got very lucky, because bought 7$ cheaper and exited the rest of my position with profit. scary to see the snowball though, luckily I had enough margin to survive the fall
[2015-11-30 03:49:53] messiaen8844 : others did'nt
[2015-11-30 03:50:13] BitMEX_Wally : messiaen8844: It wasn't a snowball liquidation
[2015-11-30 03:50:26] messiaen8844 : what happened?
[2015-11-30 03:50:26] BitMEX_Wally : It was one position of 22k contracts being liquidated
[2015-11-30 03:50:42] BitMEX_Wally : It didn't trigger any other liquidations, but yes, it did eat through all the bids
[2015-11-30 03:52:35] eV : hurt my ego a bit that mc did
[2015-11-30 03:52:58] eV : lol
[2015-11-30 03:53:03] messiaen8844 : ah, ok, just thin orderbook then
[2015-11-30 03:53:32] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah I think one of the market makers hit their delta limit and pulled quotes after the first 12k
[2015-11-30 03:53:59] BitMEX_Wally : Then we aggressed the remaining 10k into what few bids were left...
[2015-11-30 03:54:09] messiaen8844 : there was very few liquidity at the moment
[2015-11-30 03:54:34] eV : felt like i was a being hunted... kill shot
[2015-11-30 03:54:41] messiaen8844 : and a huge spread
[2015-11-30 03:55:15] eV : 22k was abt 18% of open contracts
[2015-11-30 03:55:33] messiaen8844 : where can I see number of open contracts?
[2015-11-30 03:55:50] BitMEX_Wally : messiaen8844: On the advanced layout
[2015-11-30 03:55:56] BitMEX_Wally : In the `Selected Contract` widget
[2015-11-30 03:56:17] BitMEX_Wally : `Open Interest The total number of futures or options contracts in existence. 298,691`
[2015-11-30 03:56:28] messiaen8844 : Ah, for some reason I never tried that,, cool
[2015-11-30 04:05:10] podizzle3k : feature request: confirmation on changing position from cross to isolate. i keep weekly contracts in the negative PNL many times and 1 click would liquidate them
[2015-11-30 04:05:42] podizzle3k : esp. since i use calculator a lot and that button is right there
[2015-11-30 04:06:03] Swedishnut : don't click click boom
[2015-11-30 04:10:57] BitMEX_Wally : podizzle3k: Enabling isolate margin should never instantly liquidate a position, I will investigate
[2015-11-30 04:11:39] habibi : podizzle3k: its add funds automatically, if not it doesnt forbid to do it imho
[2015-11-30 04:11:56] messiaen8844 : wally, why not when changing for cross to isolate having a popup so you can set your margin before it changes?
[2015-11-30 04:12:06] habibi : like error - ur account is in liqidation and moment later sth that calls everythings is ok
[2015-11-30 04:12:13] messiaen8844 : also, on add/remove margin, please add a preview of Liq. Price.
[2015-11-30 04:12:32] messiaen8844 : or even setting straight by liq. price instead of margin value
[2015-11-30 04:12:47] podizzle3k : why wouldnt it liquidate a negative profit position
[2015-11-30 04:18:35] BitMEX_Wally : Because with cross margin on it moves margin to cover losses
[2015-11-30 04:18:46] BitMEX_Wally : When cross margin is disabled it does not remove that margin
[2015-11-30 04:43:40] ethexio : BitMEX_Wally: Any idea if Haas will have their BitMEX issues resolved soon?
[2015-11-30 05:19:16] BitMEX_Wally : ethexio: They want a user friendly way of generating API keys on BitMEX?
[2015-11-30 05:19:37] BitMEX_Wally : We built that for them: https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiKeys
[2015-11-30 05:20:28] BitMEX_Wally : Is there another issue that needs resolving?
[2015-11-30 05:42:17] ethexio : BitMEX_Wally: Yeah, tons. Basically unusable with BitMEX. Missing js file being the main one. And instruments all jacked up.
[2015-11-30 05:43:45] ethexio : BitMEX_Wally: It's not on your side, at all, just didnt know if you had any info - they are lacking in it. Told them 2-3 weeks ago about missing JS file, and complete brokeness with BitMEX and they're just 'ahh, yeah... Maybe it'll be fixed next release"
[2015-11-30 05:45:09] ethexio : THey also still only allow email + password to connect, APIkeys don't work
[2015-11-30 05:46:28] BitMEX_Wally : ethexio: I'm sorry to hear this. I'll see if we can reach out to help
[2015-11-30 05:47:47] ethexio : BitMEX_Wally: It's really not your issue - your API is solid, i've connected and used it. It may just not be on their high-priority thing. Thought maybe they had mentioned something, as I know they're in close contact with you guys.
[2015-11-30 05:48:05] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah probably with Sam
[2015-11-30 05:49:20] ethexio : Sucks because I paid for 3 months for service, and it doesn't work with the service I signed up to use it with for the past month (or whenever you releaased news/new API interface)
[2015-11-30 05:49:43] ethexio : Again, not your problem. Venting now :)
[2015-11-30 05:56:56] podizzle3k : XBT24H trading at huobi rates
[2015-11-30 05:58:57] BitMEX_Wally : podizzle3k: Watch your language :)
[2015-11-30 06:03:33] podizzle3k : $5 chinese premium
[2015-11-30 06:03:46] podizzle3k : is bitmex going to tweet 'go long or gtfo?' again?
[2015-11-30 06:04:48] podizzle3k : okcoin sentiment is short wow
[2015-11-30 06:18:22] ethexio : whoa
[2015-11-30 06:21:15] rapidtrades : ethexio: hoa indeed
[2015-11-30 06:21:19] rapidtrades : damn too
[2015-11-30 06:21:23] rapidtrades : damn whoa
[2015-11-30 06:25:47] podizzle3k : buy party
[2015-11-30 06:28:04] rapidtrades : this thing turned into a regular PnD....bit disappointed, I thought we had big money here
[2015-11-30 06:28:30] rapidtrades : $300 - $500 <$300 <$400 cos why not
[2015-11-30 06:28:45] rapidtrades : $500 >$300 > $400
[2015-11-30 06:29:11] rapidtrades : it acts like a fecking altcoin
[2015-11-30 06:30:21] podizzle3k : a pump and dump? come on look at the chinese volumes
[2015-11-30 06:30:35] podizzle3k : unprecedented levels even if they are faking it
[2015-11-30 06:31:31] podizzle3k : esp. on huobi can you imagine the fees theyre raking in with .2% on each trade and 1.6Mbtc volume per day
[2015-11-30 06:31:33] rapidtrades : yeah PnD....up 100% then down %50 then up %30...what's this...there has been no news to justify any of these movements
[2015-11-30 06:32:09] rapidtrades : if there's no news, smone is pumping again,,,and it will end just like the last one
[2015-11-30 06:32:11] podizzle3k : rapidtrades: i suspect whatever the reason huobi volume tripled in the last 5 days
[2015-11-30 06:32:19] podizzle3k : all other exchanges stayed the same
[2015-11-30 06:32:30] podizzle3k : so look towards china, maybe f2pool im thinking
[2015-11-30 06:32:41] rapidtrades : the reason should be known by now...we already had 1 no reason rally this year
[2015-11-30 06:32:57] podizzle3k : aka the discus fish
[2015-11-30 06:33:27] SnackyCoins : we dont need news
[2015-11-30 06:33:56] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: we don't need news but we saw what happened to that rally 1 month ago...
[2015-11-30 06:33:59] SnackyCoins : when price moves, people need to find a reason for it, so relevant news good/bad is assigned to appropriate movements
[2015-11-30 06:34:16] SnackyCoins : "oh we went up, it must be because this"
[2015-11-30 06:34:46] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: there's always a reason...always...and if u can't find one after 2 months of this crazy volatility, smth is up
[2015-11-30 06:34:51] SnackyCoins : it's just a crash cycle, how else is it supposed to look
[2015-11-30 06:35:20] rapidtrades : it's one thing to make up reasons after 1 day movements but for month long cycles u rly need a reason, imo
[2015-11-30 06:35:26] SnackyCoins : if you zoom out on gold or oil it looks like an altcoin too
[2015-11-30 06:35:55] SnackyCoins : you just have to zoom out further
[2015-11-30 06:36:08] SnackyCoins : it takes gold 20 years to complete the cycle that shitcoin will complete in 2 weeks
[2015-11-30 06:36:18] SnackyCoins : BTC is somewhere in the middle
[2015-11-30 06:40:16] laisee : rapid> trying to find a story in random market movements is a trap for (new) traders
[2015-11-30 06:40:37] podizzle3k : wow dumping 385
[2015-11-30 06:41:30] podizzle3k : rapidtrades does it piss you off when you get the green nick instead of the red
[2015-11-30 06:42:05] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: ur nick is green too dick
[2015-11-30 06:42:18] SnackyCoins : here
[2015-11-30 06:42:22] SnackyCoins : check this out, no reading
[2015-11-30 06:42:24] SnackyCoins : https://youtu.be/OuxjJimiz54?t=3248
[2015-11-30 06:42:31] SnackyCoins : and i skipped the boring shit at the beginning
[2015-11-30 06:42:34] SnackyCoins : just for you :)
[2015-11-30 06:43:16] laisee : best story I can figure is that China markets are being pushed up (to attract new money) then down (to liquidate new money & take their 'new' coins). At same time, BTC does have % chance of being long-term value if turnover yxn increases. so ... 2 stories.
[2015-11-30 06:45:28] rapidtrades : feels like this rally is caused by dumb money trying to recreate the previous one..they prolly missed that one or got shaken out below $300
[2015-11-30 06:46:24] rapidtrades : so they're now FOMOing on every $5 dip
[2015-11-30 06:54:12] laisee : 'new' money
[2015-11-30 07:18:12] rapidtrades : china's being stupid again
[2015-11-30 07:32:05] ethexio : of course..
[2015-11-30 07:36:27] rapidtrades : scalped some..but could only get 57 contracts filled lol
[2015-11-30 07:36:59] rapidtrades : anyway it's nice to see things getting more rational
[2015-11-30 07:41:27] ethexio : yeah. Right after I close short at loss.
[2015-11-30 07:42:21] rapidtrades : u never know...these idiots have eebn buying it up every $5 dip
[2015-11-30 07:42:26] rapidtrades : better safe then sry
[2015-11-30 07:42:50] ethexio : Yeah.
[2015-11-30 07:43:17] ethexio : Had to cut it, looked like it might get bonkers
[2015-11-30 07:45:34] ethexio : still might get bonkers
[2015-11-30 07:46:09] podizzle3k : initiate bonkers
[2015-11-30 07:47:00] rapidtrades : if there's one thing u can count on, it's Chinese being stupid with their money
[2015-11-30 07:47:55] podizzle3k : when they devalue cny then they can dump
[2015-11-30 07:48:38] rapidtrades : their devaluations were like 2%
[2015-11-30 07:49:11] rapidtrades : would u put ur money in bitcorns to avoid 2% hit? plus they get like 10-20% innterest rates over there
[2015-11-30 07:51:22] rapidtrades : Its prolly some miners going crazy...trying to pump prices
[2015-11-30 07:51:36] rapidtrades : they own mining
[2015-11-30 07:52:04] rapidtrades : wouldn't put it past them to collude to not sell or keep prices high
[2015-11-30 08:29:11] rapidtrades : 100k wall yo
[2015-11-30 08:31:18] rapidtrades : totaly legit buy, not fake at all
[2015-11-30 08:35:49] BitMEX_Wally : It's real
[2015-11-30 08:36:01] HotDogs : HIT IT
[2015-11-30 08:38:33] BitMEX_Wally : <img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-02gVr6Yhvo0/TX9xv6POWII/AAAAAAAAimI/QgLjr1Js-ag/s400/xbzhxl.gif">
[2015-11-30 08:38:45] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: ofc it's real, my point was he's not planning to get them filled
[2015-11-30 08:39:10] HotDogs : Who has some balls up in this bitch
[2015-11-30 08:39:17] rapidtrades : me!
[2015-11-30 08:39:40] BitMEX_Wally : He's bidding $4 above spot, he's planning to get filled
[2015-11-30 08:39:55] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: he won't fill even 20%
[2015-11-30 08:40:12] rapidtrades : I'd be surprised if he fills 10% before he pulls it
[2015-11-30 08:44:31] BitMEX_Wally : Looks like he pulled his bid and lifted the offer for 25k
[2015-11-30 08:45:53] BitMEX_Wally : <img src="http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/871/713/d72.gif">
[2015-11-30 08:46:16] BitMEX_Wally : Merry Christmas
[2015-11-30 08:46:41] HotDogs : Backstreet's back, ALRIGHT
[2015-11-30 08:47:45] gaoMex : Shortly after the huge bid, Finex shot up. Coincidence?
[2015-11-30 08:48:06] laisee : am i original?
[2015-11-30 08:50:27] rapidtrades : lol he only filled 500 before pulling?
[2015-11-30 08:50:40] rapidtrades : oh wb wall
[2015-11-30 08:50:44] BitMEX_Wally : He filled at least 25k
[2015-11-30 08:50:49] BitMEX_Wally : He's back bidding at 385 now
[2015-11-30 08:50:51] rapidtrades : ah ok
[2015-11-30 08:51:44] rapidtrades : ...and its' gone
[2015-11-30 08:51:47] coolcatgee : ego's and trading, something always breaks
[2015-11-30 08:52:05] laisee : liquidaton on Z15 / 41k?
[2015-11-30 08:52:53] rapidtrades : laisee: no? aren't liquidations sent as market orders?
[2015-11-30 08:52:54] coolcatgee : thats been there for awhile
[2015-11-30 08:53:02] rapidtrades : also big one on 6m
[2015-11-30 08:53:32] BitMEX_Wally : We do not use market orders for liquidations
[2015-11-30 08:53:42] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: well that's just great
[2015-11-30 08:54:43] laisee : 41k @ 394.60 ... limit order
[2015-11-30 08:54:47] rapidtrades : so are those walls liqs?
[2015-11-30 08:55:33] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, you can check using the API: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations
[2015-11-30 08:55:34] coolcatgee : [2015-11-29 22:28:55] justinlooking : is that Z15 id a liquidation? [2015-11-29 22:31:08] j8 : yes it is! [2015-11-29 22:31:29] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations [2015-11-29 22:31:42] justinlooking : ty j8
[2015-11-30 08:55:51] rapidtrades : also I see less then 4k filled the bids....where are u getting the 25k number? @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-30 08:56:03] rapidtrades : red is filled bids right
[2015-11-30 08:56:24] BitMEX_Wally : The colour indicates if the price went up or down
[2015-11-30 08:56:44] BitMEX_Wally : That 100k bid disappeared and then someone lifted the 25k offer
[2015-11-30 08:56:51] laisee : answer is YEP. e
[2015-11-30 08:57:14] rapidtrades : this doesnt show me anything https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations
[2015-11-30 08:57:31] laisee : breakdown of Titles across CBI e.g. 55 Developers, 12 Senior Developers, …
[2015-11-30 08:57:40] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: It should return this: `[{"symbol":"XBTZ15","side":"Buy","qty":40843,"price":394.6},{"symbol":"XBTH16","side":"Buy","qty":23888,"price":455.41}]`
[2015-11-30 08:57:54] laisee : yes
[2015-11-30 08:57:59] rapidtrades : oh it dos sry
[2015-11-30 09:00:02] rapidtrades : he's baaaaaack
[2015-11-30 09:00:42] rapidtrades : lol he gets 1k filled and he bailes
[2015-11-30 09:00:45] rapidtrades : bails
[2015-11-30 09:01:08] rapidtrades : that was too easy...lemme pull this bid
[2015-11-30 09:02:27] laisee : ... this indecision is killing me
[2015-11-30 09:02:47] micmix : oh cool, we have some juicy liquidations to sell into if bitcoin drops before friday
[2015-11-30 09:03:05] eV : if*
[2015-11-30 09:03:52] micmix : yeah, I know it's a big if
[2015-11-30 09:04:01] eV : :)
[2015-11-30 09:04:34] laisee : good 4 taking some profits now
[2015-11-30 09:05:56] micmix : yep, if you had a long. I'm flat on both Z15 and H16
[2015-11-30 09:58:40] rapidtrades : $7 premium with 2 hours to go...cos why the hell not
[2015-11-30 09:58:55] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: You going long?
[2015-11-30 09:59:34] rapidtrades : why would I go long at $7 premium
[2015-11-30 10:00:29] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Everyone else thinks it's going up
[2015-11-30 10:00:43] BitMEX_Wally : You don't want to miss out
[2015-11-30 10:00:56] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: not sure if sarcasm :)
[2015-11-30 10:03:45] rapidtrades : boom
[2015-11-30 10:06:27] rapidtrades : out...market in market out...painfuly but hard to get fills otherwise
[2015-11-30 10:07:41] rapidtrades : caught around $5.5 of that move
[2015-11-30 10:08:57] rapidtrades : waited all day for that trade lol
[2015-11-30 10:41:00] mwalshe99 : Wally, if i play the quarterlies does my winnings stay locked until the quartiles settle?
[2015-11-30 10:41:08] floopfloop : mwalshe99: firday
[2015-11-30 10:42:21] messiaen8844 : waited all YEAR for this trade :)
[2015-11-30 10:42:50] BitMEX_Wally : mwalshe99: The quarterly contracts are rebalanced each Friday, so you can withdraw any profit
[2015-11-30 10:49:11] messiaen8844 : in the next weeks my currency will lose a lot of value (my target is from 10% to 20%) against the dollar, so my BTC position, coupled with gains on future will become a money making machine. People in Venezuela, Argentina and Brazil are the ones profitting most from this, premium (and fees) on local exchanges here are usually way higher than the chinese ones. So yes, real use for BTC right now for lots of people.
[2015-11-30 10:55:13] messiaen8844 : today people will be desperate here looking for dollars (and BTC, for the small crowd who is into it)
[2015-11-30 11:01:14] messiaen8844 : and there it goes.. monster 1.5% gap on USD/BRLopening today
[2015-11-30 11:04:36] HotDogs : As in BRL depreciating?
[2015-11-30 11:05:16] messiaen8844 : yes
[2015-11-30 11:07:03] messiaen8844 : friday R$ 3.70 = $ 1 USD, now 1 USD = R$ 3.90 right now, that's how fast it's going... february, when I started piling BTC, USD = R$ 2.40 BRL... got the idea?
[2015-11-30 11:07:29] HotDogs : So what is going on in Argentina
[2015-11-30 11:07:39] HotDogs : Did the Kirchner just steal all the FX reservers?
[2015-11-30 11:07:56] messiaen8844 : new president, out of reserves, huge capital controls, wrecked economy, all latin american is pretty bad right now
[2015-11-30 11:08:15] HotDogs : Yeah but the reserves didn't just vanish over night, sounds like something fishy is going on
[2015-11-30 11:08:15] messiaen8844 : plus USA doing all they can do de-estabilize it
[2015-11-30 11:10:21] messiaen8844 : not sure of the finer details in Argentina
[2015-11-30 11:10:35] messiaen8844 : media also not trustworthy
[2015-11-30 11:12:23] messiaen8844 : govt not releasing full data on economy in Argentina
[2015-11-30 11:14:53] messiaen8844 : here in Brazil we may be heading to the second presidential impeachment in 30 years, sounded like fantasy in january, now it's becoming real
[2015-11-30 11:15:09] HotDogs : So she looks to be a gonner
[2015-11-30 11:15:19] HotDogs : ?
[2015-11-30 11:15:19] messiaen8844 : leftists govt being wiped out in latin america
[2015-11-30 11:16:04] HotDogs : Most of them are crooks just depends on what ism they choose the rob you using
[2015-11-30 11:16:06] messiaen8844 : I doubted it at first, but now there's just too much going on, basically the country is halted due to political issues even more than economic ones
[2015-11-30 11:23:14] messiaen8844 : mounting my long on the dollar for december BRLUSD futures, so I can have a merry Xmas. This political chaos is like a dream for traders lol
[2015-11-30 11:45:30] Gemz : why cant i close market, it sayd order cancelled
[2015-11-30 11:47:12] Teddy76 : Gemz: probably because it will be put you into liquidation
[2015-11-30 11:47:16] BitMEX_Wally : Gemz: Market Close orders are IOC (Immediate Or Cancel). So if they are not immediately executable within your liquidation price they are canceled
[2015-11-30 11:50:00] Gemz : o ffs im losing trade after trade with this 100x
[2015-11-30 11:51:24] mwalshe99 : Gemz: slow down. this doesn't seem like a good time to trade
[2015-11-30 11:57:25] Swedishnut : morning :) Happy Cyber Monday
[2015-11-30 11:57:39] justinlooking : hey Swedishnut
[2015-11-30 11:57:42] j8 : morning
[2015-11-30 11:57:58] justinlooking : 2 min until expiry
[2015-11-30 11:58:13] Swedishnut : :) indeed had to see how this day played out
[2015-11-30 11:58:47] Swedishnut : then bad to bed for a few more hours :P
[2015-11-30 11:58:56] Swedishnut : back*
[2015-11-30 12:03:32] Swedishnut : interesting spread but looks like 375 will be new floor for my dreams, Peace folks. Need to keep sleeping this steak off. Food Coma round 2
[2015-11-30 12:03:45] rapidtrades : later man :)
[2015-11-30 12:03:49] justinlooking : lol nn
[2015-11-30 12:03:58] Swedishnut : later good fellas
[2015-11-30 12:04:09] messiaen8844 : there's some strong BEARsistence on 380
[2015-11-30 12:04:59] habibi : people are scared when they see almost 11k on sell side against 5k on bids @wisdom
[2015-11-30 12:05:07] messiaen8844 : think we will stay sideways for a while, if it ruptures then we go way higher. safer to long on 7D I think
[2015-11-30 12:12:24] justinlooking : anyone know a service that aggregates the depth of the spot exchanges?
[2015-11-30 12:12:45] sleger : that would be stupid, you would end up with crossed price
[2015-11-30 12:12:46] justinlooking : or at least makes it easier to see them all at once?
[2015-11-30 12:14:01] rapidtrades : got 30 cents on a long lol
[2015-11-30 12:14:21] rapidtrades : almost not worth the effort
[2015-11-30 12:14:34] BitMEX_Wally : As j8 recommended yesterday, you can see a depth weighted price for various sizes here: http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/exchanges
[2015-11-30 12:14:49] BitMEX_Wally : Well, a depth weighted spread at least
[2015-11-30 12:14:57] justinlooking : cool will check it out
[2015-11-30 12:17:03] rapidtrades : so here are we going next fellas?
[2015-11-30 12:17:07] rapidtrades : where*
[2015-11-30 12:17:58] habibi : sideways and a little down is my guess but wont sure to put money on it
[2015-11-30 12:20:00] rapidtrades : habibi: ok fella
[2015-11-30 12:25:54] habibi : rapidtrades: ur call :)?
[2015-11-30 12:27:11] rapidtrades : well things look very bullish but we're overdue for a retracement..so sideways too I guess
[2015-11-30 12:28:41] podizzle3k : wow what was that at settlement? bitfinex got ddosd?
[2015-11-30 12:28:53] podizzle3k : just to screw with our settlement?
[2015-11-30 12:29:12] thehawthorne : 2550 -2600 soon. after that retrace
[2015-11-30 12:30:14] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: dunno I was taking a shower...what did u see
[2015-11-30 12:33:22] podizzle3k : for the last half hour before settlement bitfinex wasnt getting any data updates on the charts. looked like a ddos
[2015-11-30 12:33:46] habibi : on which chart?
[2015-11-30 12:34:16] messiaen8844 : or stalled orderbook?
[2015-11-30 12:34:32] podizzle3k : i wasnt on bitfinex so i dont know just watching from bitcoinwisdom
[2015-11-30 12:35:13] podizzle3k : usually that happens to the china exchanges when someone is trying to obscure their trades
[2015-11-30 12:35:14] rapidtrades : I was looking at okc and it said on data on finex/stamp
[2015-11-30 12:35:21] rapidtrades : NO DATA
[2015-11-30 12:35:35] podizzle3k : oh stamp too?
[2015-11-30 12:35:51] rapidtrades : but I checked finex and the site was up
[2015-11-30 12:36:07] podizzle3k : Bitstamp will switch to BIP 101 this December. http://ift.tt/21ojONf #reddit #bitcoin
[2015-11-30 12:36:10] podizzle3k : hmm
[2015-11-30 12:36:12] rapidtrades : not sure if trading worked tho, just went to bitfinex home page
[2015-11-30 12:36:23] podizzle3k : rapidtrades: probably just the api getting hit thats the usual MO
[2015-11-30 12:39:35] rapidtrades : cmon let's crash to I can go back to bed
[2015-11-30 12:39:40] rapidtrades : had 3 hrs of sleep today
[2015-11-30 12:40:57] rapidtrades : die botcorn die
[2015-11-30 12:51:14] podizzle3k : nope you have to stay awake to watch
[2015-11-30 12:51:19] podizzle3k : for another 72 hours
[2015-11-30 12:52:48] podizzle3k : i want to be real green and not pea green
[2015-11-30 13:10:06] podizzle3k : wow 24hr on discount
[2015-11-30 13:12:05] messiaen8844 : because it's becoming toppish
[2015-11-30 13:20:04] jung1 : 400 tommorow
[2015-11-30 13:25:06] mwalshe99 : 380 tomorrow
[2015-11-30 13:28:33] habibi : 379 in a second
[2015-11-30 13:29:06] mwalshe99 : aight rainman not showing off
[2015-11-30 13:29:16] mwalshe99 : no*
[2015-11-30 13:33:08] podizzle3k : btc gonna start that creep up
[2015-11-30 13:35:44] jung1 : will see what will be next ath
[2015-11-30 13:53:01] jung1 : http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/27/investing/china-missing-executives/index.html?iid=hp-stack-intl
[2015-11-30 14:20:13] habibi : someone will get rekt today with that premium if we fall ;p
[2015-11-30 14:21:44] messiaen8844 : doji on daily
[2015-11-30 14:22:05] messiaen8844 : hedging my 7d with a short on 24h
[2015-11-30 14:23:33] laisee : is it thursday already?
[2015-11-30 14:23:51] habibi : nope, so no doji
[2015-11-30 14:25:12] laisee : ah, $4 premium 2 high IMOe
[2015-11-30 14:26:09] messiaen8844 : it will fall IF we consolidate near here
[2015-11-30 14:27:25] messiaen8844 : let's see if we get to 2330 again
[2015-11-30 14:28:50] messiaen8844 : look the daily simmetry
[2015-11-30 14:29:45] messiaen8844 : very nice time/price simmetry
[2015-11-30 14:38:36] irbbqu : 15m looks bouncy
[2015-11-30 14:40:21] messiaen8844 : yep, could bounce all the way up
[2015-11-30 14:41:45] messiaen8844 : but after that I still see days of sideways, ranging down
[2015-11-30 14:42:35] podizzle3k : interestign okcoin 8cny above huobi
[2015-11-30 14:42:50] podizzle3k : days of sideways wtf you are sick person
[2015-11-30 14:42:55] irbbqu : Just missing that fomo spike up though.
[2015-11-30 14:43:27] podizzle3k : fomo piggyback new highs not so much dumps
[2015-11-30 14:43:34] messiaen8844 : podizzle if 380 resistance is a very strong point, bulls confidence will be shake
[2015-11-30 14:43:47] messiaen8844 : I see fomo kicking in once we pass $ 400
[2015-11-30 14:44:01] podizzle3k : messiaen8844: thats assuming this is a trader speculation pump and not just new fiat funneling in
[2015-11-30 14:45:21] messiaen8844 : I don't tons of money kicking in before $400, but that's my perception
[2015-11-30 14:46:16] messiaen8844 : $400 is a really really major point for me
[2015-11-30 14:46:23] irbbqu : Someone mentioned peso/btc being at a 30% premium, there is def new money coming in, but doesnt help much if pumpers will dump on em at higher levels.
[2015-11-30 14:48:10] podizzle3k : irbbqu: all new money helps
[2015-11-30 14:48:21] podizzle3k : even when they dump the majority will keep it on exchanges and buy back
[2015-11-30 14:48:31] messiaen8844 : BTC is at premium in brazil too, doesn't mean tons of people are buying it :). but > $400 can attact the really majo players
[2015-11-30 14:48:35] podizzle3k : esp with a good monthly uptrend
[2015-11-30 14:48:49] messiaen8844 : yes, but they wait before strong support
[2015-11-30 14:48:56] messiaen8844 : being optimistic this is 2330 for me
[2015-11-30 14:49:37] messiaen8844 : good idea to wait a few days after such major upside for correction
[2015-11-30 14:50:16] messiaen8844 : it was $315 to $380 straight up
[2015-11-30 15:09:21] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: yeah it was....smone finally noticed
[2015-11-30 15:09:51] rapidtrades : it was $350>$380 actually, cos we got that $30 crash few days ago
[2015-11-30 15:09:55] messiaen8844 : are you buying now
[2015-11-30 15:10:00] messiaen8844 : ?
[2015-11-30 15:10:20] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: I'm buying ur whore mother...does that count?