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[2017-04-19 20:44:24] rapidtrades : 2 of the top 3 pools are anti-segwit
[2017-04-19 20:44:30] amaru : hmmm why are we pumping?
[2017-04-19 20:44:38] bingbongfly : There isnt enough coins!
[2017-04-19 20:44:48] bingbongfly : Nigeria just buy and buy btc, ignores theTA we post
[2017-04-19 20:45:03] amaru : lol
[2017-04-19 20:45:36] MikeHunt : okcUSD/fingox going supa nova
[2017-04-19 20:45:44] MikeHunt : double mtgox maybe
[2017-04-19 20:45:48] rapidtrades : shut up mike
[2017-04-19 20:45:58] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: shorts will cry
[2017-04-19 20:46:16] rapidtrades : not on BTC/LTC
[2017-04-19 20:46:41] rapidtrades : long-term no short will lose money if done on low enough leverage
[2017-04-19 20:47:00] rapidtrades : valuations are comically high for every coin right now
[2017-04-19 20:48:35] frog : we may end up with original ltc mined by jihan and wang chun and the other chines miners and ltc-seg controlled by charlie mined by the others maybe, quite risky for miners to commit to new ltc coin
[2017-04-19 20:48:43] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-19 20:48:44] MikeHunt : i think btc will dump eventually
[2017-04-19 20:48:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.99 (-0.20%) Bitfinex : 1267.50 (-0.16%) The Woodchipper : 1226.96 (0.24%) itBit : 1205.22 (0.09%) Kraken : 1206.41 (-0.13%) GDAX : 1206.19 (0.27%) SLQ : 1 hour, 38 mins```
[2017-04-19 20:48:58] MikeHunt : but thats after finex/okc go supa nova
[2017-04-19 20:49:06] MikeHunt : like with mtgox
[2017-04-19 20:49:13] rapidtrades : wang chun already alluded few times that he doesn't support UASF
[2017-04-19 20:49:34] rapidtrades : but he's a fickle bitch so who knows
[2017-04-19 20:49:48] rapidtrades : without him, odds of success are 0
[2017-04-19 20:50:39] rapidtrades : there will be noone o secure the new network against jihan attacks
[2017-04-19 20:51:08] frog : he only started supporting segwit when he knew charlie didn't have enough hash to get to 75%
[2017-04-19 20:51:34] rapidtrades : he did it to make money
[2017-04-19 20:51:44] rapidtrades : it was insider trading clear as day
[2017-04-19 20:51:58] rapidtrades : LTC pumped 1 day before he announced it
[2017-04-19 20:52:09] rapidtrades : he prolly made millions
[2017-04-19 20:52:15] frog : but ok in crypto market doesn't have to be hidden like in US
[2017-04-19 20:52:40] rapidtrades : just saying he didn't do it for ideological reasons
[2017-04-19 20:52:44] rapidtrades : it was $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[2017-04-19 20:52:55] rapidtrades : so maybe he can be bought again by jihan
[2017-04-19 20:53:06] frog : no but he could go against jihan and make money without affecting his relationship
[2017-04-19 20:53:44] rapidtrades : he's a wild card
[2017-04-19 20:53:57] frog : he will support jihan if required
[2017-04-19 20:54:19] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-19 20:54:22] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.54 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1267.40 (-0.01%) The Woodchipper : 1232.23 (0.43%) itBit : 1204.97 (-0.02%) Kraken : 1207.00 (0.05%) GDAX : 1205.10 (-0.09%) SLQ : 5 mins```
[2017-04-19 20:54:34] frog : it is in his interest
[2017-04-19 20:54:37] rapidtrades : i think miners are slowly getting pissed off with the discussion
[2017-04-19 20:55:07] rapidtrades : they invested the most in LTC and now are threatened by some newly arrived punks on r/litecoin
[2017-04-19 20:55:44] rapidtrades : wouldn't be surprised to see bunch of them go rouge during UASF
[2017-04-19 20:56:39] frog : wang chun talked about increased security to ltc with greater hash
[2017-04-19 20:56:59] frog : and that jihan has more hash available if required
[2017-04-19 20:57:28] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-04-19 20:58:04] fulrik : They would probably be able to swap some of the hashpower from other coins
[2017-04-19 20:58:32] fulrik : Hashpower on ltc is peanuts compared to btc
[2017-04-19 20:58:36] frog : i think price going up as uasf will not affect price of original coin and ltc-seg coin will be disaster
[2017-04-19 20:58:42] frog : cannot switch
[2017-04-19 20:58:53] rapidtrades : fulrik: its not the same algo
[2017-04-19 20:59:03] frog : ltc is scrypt
[2017-04-19 20:59:05] rapidtrades : its 10 times slower to mine
[2017-04-19 20:59:22] fulrik : Yes but I suppose the same hardware can crack both?
[2017-04-19 20:59:28] rapidtrades : nope
[2017-04-19 20:59:38] frog : f*** k me
[2017-04-19 20:59:39] rapidtrades : ASIC....google it
[2017-04-19 20:59:52] fulrik : Did already
[2017-04-19 21:00:38] fulrik : Of course hardware may not be fully utilized with a switchover but it would still count. Point is - more hashpower can be brought to the party if necessary.
[2017-04-19 21:00:51] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-19 21:01:08] rapidtrades : ASIC are highly optimized, u can't beat them
[2017-04-19 21:01:24] rapidtrades : only hardware that can come is from other scrypt coins
[2017-04-19 21:01:31] shillosopher : ASIC for btc is not the same as an ASIC for ltc
[2017-04-19 21:01:35] frog : confirmed by fulrik black is now white
[2017-04-19 21:01:36] shillosopher : they use different algorithms
[2017-04-19 21:02:05] rapidtrades : but afaik mining profitability for LTC is low, so they would be losing money to switch
[2017-04-19 21:02:35] rapidtrades : ofc they could be bought but trolls on reddit don't have that jihan money
[2017-04-19 21:02:41] fulrik : I recon hardware is customized to the specific algorithm but it would still offer power if switched to another?
[2017-04-19 21:02:54] shillosopher : @fulrik no
[2017-04-19 21:03:01] rapidtrades : it would be useless
[2017-04-19 21:03:21] rapidtrades : u can get some juice out of graphic cards but very low compared to ASIC
[2017-04-19 21:04:02] fulrik : Okay. Wish I could buy a couple of those ASICS and bring 'em back to my past self in 2010
[2017-04-19 21:04:16] fulrik : "Here ya' go chap. Plug these mothers in"
[2017-04-19 21:04:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 260 @ 0.002621
[2017-04-19 21:04:45] rapidtrades : u would likely not make money cos difficulty goes up constantly
[2017-04-19 21:04:51] shillosopher : trying to use a BTC ASIC miner on LTC is as useful as trying to brush your hair with a blow torch
[2017-04-19 21:05:03] rapidtrades : only the most efficient miners survive
[2017-04-19 21:05:03] frog : need very cheap power
[2017-04-19 21:05:15] frog : like in chyna
[2017-04-19 21:05:25] rapidtrades : cheap power and constantly buying the ASICs
[2017-04-19 21:05:36] rapidtrades : the new versions
[2017-04-19 21:05:43] frog : difficulty increase as more acis are added
[2017-04-19 21:05:50] shillosopher : frog: do you know what they pay per kwh in china?
[2017-04-19 21:06:12] rapidtrades : LTC already back below 10.50
[2017-04-19 21:06:13] frog : i think 0.035
[2017-04-19 21:06:26] fulrik : https://www.ovoenergy.com/guides/energy-guides/average-electricity-prices-kwh.html
[2017-04-19 21:07:01] frog : jihan gets good deal from grid
[2017-04-19 21:07:27] fulrik : lol Denmark is the most expensive place. And we tax the shit out of electricity too....
[2017-04-19 21:07:35] shillosopher : I can get like 0.035 ish in canada if you know where to look
[2017-04-19 21:07:52] frog : no likely mining will be profiable there
[2017-04-19 21:08:02] 5bg : okc price starting to become detached from reality, like bfx. will it be removed from index?
[2017-04-19 21:08:03] chocolicious : rapidtrades: you rekt yet?
[2017-04-19 21:08:11] shillosopher : 5bg: not yet
[2017-04-19 21:08:33] 5bg : shillosopher: has anyone from mex said anything?
[2017-04-19 21:08:43] shillosopher : 5bg: check announcements
[2017-04-19 21:08:58] frog : that is price jihan offer asic customers not sure of actual price he pays
[2017-04-19 21:08:59] shillosopher : they are going to remove it. But only after it pumps up first
[2017-04-19 21:09:10] frog : but most likely less
[2017-04-19 21:09:32] 5bg : ah I see thanks
[2017-04-19 21:09:58] sleger : /price
[2017-04-19 21:10:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.31 (-0.02%) Bitfinex : 1268.30 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1235.05 (0.23%) itBit : 1205.24 (0.02%) Kraken : 1207.37 (0.03%) GDAX : 1205.97 (0.07%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:11:35] rapidtrades : yeah :(
[2017-04-19 21:11:42] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 21:11:45] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 23.33 / 76.67 Daily : 45.21 / 54.79 Weekly : 44.79 / 55.21 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 21:11:49] rapidtrades : like sleger said, it should've been removed right away
[2017-04-19 21:12:32] rapidtrades : now the only true price for LTC in the west is BTCE
[2017-04-19 21:12:35] rapidtrades : god help us
[2017-04-19 21:13:46] shillosopher : lol index is now over $5 difference from
[2017-04-19 21:13:51] shillosopher : swap
[2017-04-19 21:13:59] shillosopher : was
[2017-04-19 21:14:15] rapidtrades : yeah this is bullshit
[2017-04-19 21:14:37] rapidtrades : index will rape shorts again when we all know that pricewill be lower in 12 hrs
[2017-04-19 21:14:50] rapidtrades : traders already adjusted for it
[2017-04-19 21:14:57] shillosopher : it should've been removed when they announced removal. Like I said this morning
[2017-04-19 21:15:08] rapidtrades : i want a refund for the 0.35% I will pay @bitmex
[2017-04-19 21:15:16] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-19 21:15:26] stf28 : index for now isn't composed of okc+bs+gdax ?
[2017-04-19 21:15:40] rapidtrades : its okc 1/2 right now
[2017-04-19 21:15:45] shillosopher : okc and bs
[2017-04-19 21:16:03] shillosopher : did they add gdax back? not yet I don't think?
[2017-04-19 21:16:15] sleger : you're gonna pay but the index is going down
[2017-04-19 21:16:25] rapidtrades : cmon this is BS...@sleger do smth
[2017-04-19 21:16:56] stf28 : rapidtrades: @shillosopher thks i was confused
[2017-04-19 21:17:09] jung1 : ETC is going fo $10
[2017-04-19 21:17:29] rapidtrades : sleger: a 0.35% refund is fair no?
[2017-04-19 21:17:47] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-19 21:17:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.97 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1266.00 (-0.18%) The Woodchipper : 1238.73 (0.30%) itBit : 1205.98 (0.06%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.05%) GDAX : 1206.21 (0.02%) SLQ : 7 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:17:59] rapidtrades : given that they caused the discount with the announcement
[2017-04-19 21:18:23] amaru : wow
[2017-04-19 21:18:27] amaru : okc is pumpin
[2017-04-19 21:18:30] chocolicious : rapid crying because he's rekt
[2017-04-19 21:18:31] shillosopher : lol 5$ diff again index vs swap
[2017-04-19 21:18:41] amaru : shillosopher: thank the woodchipper
[2017-04-19 21:18:44] rapidtrades : yes we all see it bro
[2017-04-19 21:18:45] chocolicious : you're going to get super rekt shorting bitcoin, price will not be below here in 12 hours
[2017-04-19 21:19:00] shillosopher : chocolicious: yea
[2017-04-19 21:19:16] chocolicious : rapidtrades: rapid I was telling you last night, I was telling you earliuer
[2017-04-19 21:19:19] rapidtrades : chocolicious: i have infinite money bish
[2017-04-19 21:19:25] chocolicious : you will believe when you're rekt
[2017-04-19 21:19:29] rapidtrades : i just want my 0.35% back
[2017-04-19 21:19:36] sleger : rapidtrades: you are going to pay funding BUT the index is going down, why is it unfair ?
[2017-04-19 21:19:37] chocolicious : rapid keep adding
[2017-04-19 21:19:42] chocolicious : it'll go down eventually
[2017-04-19 21:20:14] sleger : /price
[2017-04-19 21:20:15] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.96 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1267.30 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1240.02 (0.10%) itBit : 1205.59 (-0.03%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1206.04 (-0.01%) SLQ : 2 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:20:16] rapidtrades : sleger: the discount is caused by the announcement, traders know okc will be out so theyre not following the index, thus causing 0.35% fee next
[2017-04-19 21:20:20] chocolicious : just let me know when you capitulate, I'll give you liquidity
[2017-04-19 21:20:24] sleger : => index will go down by 15$
[2017-04-19 21:20:39] rapidtrades : after i pay 0.35% in fees
[2017-04-19 21:20:41] sleger : i think it is fine
[2017-04-19 21:20:47] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2017-04-19 21:20:54] rapidtrades : @bitmex i want a refund
[2017-04-19 21:21:02] chocolicious : let me know when you get liquididated, I'll give your liquidation liquidity
[2017-04-19 21:21:03] sleger : go trade at 0kc
[2017-04-19 21:21:05] sleger : or finex
[2017-04-19 21:21:42] 5bg : index will go down $11 currently and most the fee will be is $7
[2017-04-19 21:21:57] shillosopher : lol they edited the announcement and removed the part where they said they don't think okc price will affect the index much so they'll wait 14 hours instead of just removing okc from the index right away
[2017-04-19 21:22:10] sleger : whaaat ? shady
[2017-04-19 21:22:38] shillosopher : sleger: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/market-disruption-event-okcoin-intl/ do you see it missing?
[2017-04-19 21:22:43] frog : yes now gone
[2017-04-19 21:23:01] sleger : "[2017-04-19 19:37:02] sleger : I dont understand bitmex post "We do not expect this change to dramatically affect the index price" <= isnt 0kc 20$ above gdax ?"
[2017-04-19 21:23:11] rapidtrades : they should remove it right away, its already dangerously diverging
[2017-04-19 21:23:11] shillosopher : ^^^
[2017-04-19 21:23:18] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-19 21:23:21] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.01 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1268.00 (0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1238.91 (-0.09%) itBit : 1204.80 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1205.96 (-0.01%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:23:28] rapidtrades : 3% difference
[2017-04-19 21:23:36] crmun : after such news they should remove this illiquid joke immediately, with 0kc Int thin books price could go up hundreds $$$ in there in hours
[2017-04-19 21:23:46] rapidtrades : yes that too
[2017-04-19 21:23:56] rapidtrades : only traded 1k BTC yesterday
[2017-04-19 21:24:22] shillosopher : totally fucking up mark pricing now
[2017-04-19 21:24:25] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 21:24:27] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 21.18 / 78.82 Daily : 45.28 / 54.72 Weekly : 44.74 / 55.26 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 21:24:28] crmun : its 200btc to 1300 over there
[2017-04-19 21:24:29] shillosopher : good job butmex
[2017-04-19 21:24:57] sleger : maybe we should contribute to a fund, then market buy at 0kc and rekt rapid ?
[2017-04-19 21:25:07] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-19 21:25:10] sleger : i'll put 100btc
[2017-04-19 21:25:56] crmun : on the other hand price could go there very low cuz no fresh money
[2017-04-19 21:26:05] BitMEX_Sam : shillosopher: sleger: We are preparing to make a new announcement on this
[2017-04-19 21:26:13] BitMEX_Sam : We agree, the schedule needs to be moved forward.
[2017-04-19 21:26:18] rapidtrades : ok thank u
[2017-04-19 21:26:36] aethlios : sleger: hi again, what are the most advanced decentralized exchanges now? for spot trading.
[2017-04-19 21:26:50] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-19 21:26:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1201.98 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1268.50 (0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1238.07 (-0.07%) itBit : 1204.78 (0.00%) Kraken : 1208.25 (0.02%) GDAX : 1205.71 (-0.02%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:26:57] sleger : aethlios: i think they are ALL completely illiquid
[2017-04-19 21:26:59] sleger : and no spot
[2017-04-19 21:27:03] sleger : except localbitcoins
[2017-04-19 21:27:21] hmmmYea : lol
[2017-04-19 21:27:27] rapidtrades : local bitcoins is only liquid in major western ciities
[2017-04-19 21:27:34] hmmmYea : you outflanked him
[2017-04-19 21:27:38] shillosopher : lol after making losing trades based on the info you released earlier you are now going to update and possibly rekt more trades?
[2017-04-19 21:27:42] shillosopher : whatever
[2017-04-19 21:27:52] shillosopher : I'm out of positions for now
[2017-04-19 21:27:58] sleger : I think bitmex is doing a good job of communicating recently
[2017-04-19 21:28:05] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 21:28:06] crmun : yes
[2017-04-19 21:28:07] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 22.59 / 77.41 Daily : 45.30 / 54.70 Weekly : 44.73 / 55.27 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 21:28:08] rapidtrades : i agree
[2017-04-19 21:28:19] rapidtrades : with sleger ^
[2017-04-19 21:28:30] crmun : +1
[2017-04-19 21:28:35] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-19 21:28:38] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1191.21 (-0.90%) Bitfinex : 1267.30 (-0.09%) The Woodchipper : 1237.00 (-0.09%) itBit : 1201.22 (-0.30%) Kraken : 1204.00 (-0.35%) GDAX : 1204.03 (-0.14%) SLQ : 1 min, ```
[2017-04-19 21:29:04] shillosopher : 14 hours warning before removal on one exchange, 0 hours before removal on another exchange. What kind of consistency is that?
[2017-04-19 21:29:10] bingbongfly : LOl bitstamp took a dum
[2017-04-19 21:29:10] bingbongfly : o
[2017-04-19 21:29:16] bingbongfly : Toilet blown out
[2017-04-19 21:29:32] crmun : stamp is saving shorters arses
[2017-04-19 21:29:39] rapidtrades : have no idea whats going on
[2017-04-19 21:29:40] shillosopher : nice manipulation bitmex
[2017-04-19 21:29:51] rapidtrades : but it will all end with a major crash
[2017-04-19 21:29:51] ross : etf denied
[2017-04-19 21:29:55] sleger : i have some idea :D
[2017-04-19 21:30:05] ross : winklevoss denied again
[2017-04-19 21:30:29] 5bg : lol bot's buying because of funding, about to get rekted
[2017-04-19 21:30:55] rapidtrades : well that's what u get for not reading this chat
[2017-04-19 21:31:17] rapidtrades : learn to read robots!
[2017-04-19 21:31:55] shillosopher : should've removed okc this morning like I said
[2017-04-19 21:32:07] Bitcoin_N_Robin : uuh bTFD time
[2017-04-19 21:32:07] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-19 21:32:09] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.98 (0.57%) Bitfinex : 1268.60 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1241.09 (0.33%) itBit : 1202.07 (0.07%) Kraken : 1200.01 (-0.33%) GDAX : 1203.53 (-0.04%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:32:17] rapidtrades : yikes
[2017-04-19 21:32:22] aethlios : sleger: i have never seen, last 4 years trading crypto, the market so fucked across the board. each exchange and a different price, fear for exchanges, fud, miners against users-devs.
[2017-04-19 21:32:27] rapidtrades : its gonna join finex soon
[2017-04-19 21:32:33] shillosopher : ^
[2017-04-19 21:32:35] sleger : aethlios: eth is behaving very well
[2017-04-19 21:32:42] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam! Thanks for your email. Just to confirm, new index will be 50% bitstamp, 50% gdax?
[2017-04-19 21:32:49] aethlios : sleger: lisk too (haha)
[2017-04-19 21:32:50] rapidtrades : aethlios: how do u think this will all end?
[2017-04-19 21:32:51] sleger : correct @micmix
[2017-04-19 21:33:09] crmun : rapidtrades: bearmarket is coming
[2017-04-19 21:33:09] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: sleger: Yes, although we are looking to move up the timetable on this
[2017-04-19 21:33:11] micmix : sleger: thanks, guess my bot will short some more ;-)
[2017-04-19 21:33:14] aethlios : rapidtrades: the solution will be decentralized exchanges.
[2017-04-19 21:33:15] BitMEX_Sam : We are discussing right now and will update you all very shortly
[2017-04-19 21:33:26] shillosopher : BitMEX_Sam: shoulda removed it this morning
[2017-04-19 21:33:28] micmix : thanks guys
[2017-04-19 21:33:37] 123abc : etc to the moon
[2017-04-19 21:33:39] shillosopher : whoops
[2017-04-19 21:33:58] aethlios : rapidtrades: and bitmex to hedge the btc risk.
[2017-04-19 21:34:23] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: its better of done ASAP, price difference looks to be widening toward finex levels....impact will be worse the longer u wait imo
[2017-04-19 21:34:29] BitMEX_Sam : I'm aware.
[2017-04-19 21:34:39] rapidtrades : alright
[2017-04-19 21:35:21] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Hi, why not to add as 3rd exchange kraken btcueur live converted with eurusd exchange rate from tradingview?? it has much liquidity
[2017-04-19 21:35:43] rapidtrades : does it have to come to that?
[2017-04-19 21:35:56] lcj : what happend? ??????
[2017-04-19 21:36:02] micmix : would be better to add another BTC/USD liquid market, like gemini
[2017-04-19 21:36:03] 123abc : FCT dumping hard
[2017-04-19 21:36:05] BitMEX_Sam : https://blog.bitmex.com/update-on-okcoin-market-disruption-event-removal-expedited/
[2017-04-19 21:36:11] aethlios : rapidtrades: next big thing in crypto will be decentralized exchange.
[2017-04-19 21:36:19] 5bg : make this change soon, and then can add kraken in later this week
[2017-04-19 21:36:24] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: We are looking into both adding more USD exchanges and the possibility of a EUR market via forex
[2017-04-19 21:36:26] lcj : -10$????
[2017-04-19 21:36:48] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-19 21:36:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1199.86 (0.16%) Bitfinex : 1269.10 (0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1240.62 (-0.04%) itBit : 1202.91 (0.07%) Kraken : 1203.20 (0.27%) GDAX : 1204.69 (0.10%) SLQ : 4 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:37:00] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: EUR market via forex makes hedging much harder
[2017-04-19 21:37:32] rapidtrades : hedging is really cheap on forex EUR/USD
[2017-04-19 21:37:46] 5bg : kraken xbt/usd is not too small
[2017-04-19 21:37:57] micmix : plus kraken is the worst exchange
[2017-04-19 21:37:59] rapidtrades : cost is 0.02%
[2017-04-19 21:38:24] 5bg : 1/3 coinbase volume
[2017-04-19 21:38:32] dorsens : so the index will drop like to around 1203?
[2017-04-19 21:38:40] rapidtrades : are u lookin at USD? or their EUR
[2017-04-19 21:38:43] dorsens : people gonna get liquidated
[2017-04-19 21:38:43] micmix : trading engine takes 2-5 min to execute orders during volatile periods
[2017-04-19 21:38:52] rapidtrades : 1/3 of coinbase?
[2017-04-19 21:38:57] 5bg : rapidtrades: usd 2mm eur 6mm
[2017-04-19 21:39:08] rapidtrades : 6m btc?
[2017-04-19 21:39:12] 5bg : coinbase usd 6mil
[2017-04-19 21:39:26] 5bg : million usd
[2017-04-19 21:39:29] lcj : coinbase is rubbish.
[2017-04-19 21:39:49] aethlios : rapidtrades: @sleger https://twitter.com/The_Blocknet/status/854685690516340736 pumped from 270k market cap to 9 million now.
[2017-04-19 21:39:54] rapidtrades : oh 6k btc then...that's fairly liquid
[2017-04-19 21:40:00] 5bg : I'd say 50% stamp 25% kraken 25% coinbase
[2017-04-19 21:40:10] rapidtrades : aethlios: so are u rich now?
[2017-04-19 21:40:23] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: https://exchangewar.info/coinprice?btc_usd - gemini is #3
[2017-04-19 21:40:25] aethlios : rapidtrades: now just noticed it.
[2017-04-19 21:40:45] 5bg : you guys are crazy there is a free $5-$10 move coming, take it, I am already full up
[2017-04-19 21:40:57] sleger : 5bg: i sold 300btc in the past hour
[2017-04-19 21:41:05] aethlios : rapidtrades: i don't know if i am rich, now much in liquid wealth you need to have to be considered rich??
[2017-04-19 21:41:12] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-19 21:41:14] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1199.24 (-0.05%) Bitfinex : 1268.90 (-0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1241.50 (0.07%) itBit : 1202.78 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1206.97 (0.31%) GDAX : 1204.68 (0.00%) SLQ : 4 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:41:15] sleger : 10m+
[2017-04-19 21:41:29] rapidtrades : only like $5 now
[2017-04-19 21:41:36] rapidtrades : new index 1203
[2017-04-19 21:41:46] 5bg : sleger: only about 50btc for me
[2017-04-19 21:42:32] aethlios : sleger: not rich then.
[2017-04-19 21:42:52] aethlios : 5bg: i am super rich based on your rich definition.
[2017-04-19 21:42:55] Nutella : /price
[2017-04-19 21:42:58] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1198.00 (-0.10%) Bitfinex : 1266.10 (-0.22%) The Woodchipper : 1240.20 (-0.10%) itBit : 1202.78 (0.00%) Kraken : 1201.00 (-0.49%) GDAX : 1204.70 (0.00%) SLQ : 1 min, ```
[2017-04-19 21:43:03] aethlios : 5bg: does ltc count???
[2017-04-19 21:43:16] 5bg : aethlios: it counts double
[2017-04-19 21:43:27] micmix : 1 ltc = 2 btc
[2017-04-19 21:43:46] lcj : ltc is rubbis too
[2017-04-19 21:44:10] stf28 : sleger: you sold it here or @exchanges
[2017-04-19 21:44:10] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 21:44:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.43 / 66.57 Daily : 45.57 / 54.44 Weekly : 44.66 / 55.34 Monthly : 47.60 / 52.40```
[2017-04-19 21:44:25] sleger : stf28: market sold everywhere
[2017-04-19 21:44:31] 5bg : let the bots eat shit
[2017-04-19 21:44:33] sleger : hence the crash on stamp
[2017-04-19 21:44:51] bingbongfly : crash? x D
[2017-04-19 21:44:53] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-19 21:44:59] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1196.35 (-0.14%) Bitfinex : 1267.10 (0.08%) The Woodchipper : 1240.05 (-0.01%) itBit : 1202.31 (-0.04%) Kraken : 1201.03 (0.00%) GDAX : 1205.33 (0.05%) SLQ : 2 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:45:04] sleger : bingbongfly: small crash
[2017-04-19 21:45:39] bingbongfly : 10 dollar crash
[2017-04-19 21:45:43] bingbongfly : hope you didnt lose everything
[2017-04-19 21:45:53] sleger : im the one who sold dummy
[2017-04-19 21:45:54] 5bg : 1201 real index
[2017-04-19 21:45:56] stf28 : sleger: everywhere but finex
[2017-04-19 21:46:01] stf28 : :D
[2017-04-19 21:46:03] aethlios : what a shitty situation, old stamp (no margin, no nothing new) is the only decent benchmark left.
[2017-04-19 21:46:07] sleger : stf28: i dont have anything on finex
[2017-04-19 21:46:37] aethlios : i have 7,000 ltc in finex waiting for loans to expire and withdraw.
[2017-04-19 21:46:44] 5bg : /rekt
[2017-04-19 21:46:44] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 2 days, 6 hours, 4 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 113000 @ 1205.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 6 hours, 29 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 216000 @ 1203.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 3 days, 22 hours, 43 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-19 21:47:00] aethlios : but i still trust old finex.
[2017-04-19 21:47:08] Tetsuo : aethlios: plz
[2017-04-19 21:47:24] etoque : LOL
[2017-04-19 21:47:31] etoque : 70 dollars difference between stamp and fine
[2017-04-19 21:47:39] Nutella : /price
[2017-04-19 21:47:40] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.93 (0.13%) Bitfinex : 1266.30 (-0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1240.15 (0.01%) itBit : 1202.23 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1201.06 (0.00%) GDAX : 1204.70 (-0.05%) SLQ : 2 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:47:56] Tetsuo : next one who calls price will get banned
[2017-04-19 21:48:04] sleger : PRICE !!!
[2017-04-19 21:48:07] etoque : fake
[2017-04-19 21:48:11] Tetsuo : j8 , ban him
[2017-04-19 21:48:15] etoque : lol
[2017-04-19 21:48:40] Tetsuo : this idoit farzad really made mark a mod, unbelievable
[2017-04-19 21:48:48] sleger : wait ?
[2017-04-19 21:48:49] 5bg : new index 1200
[2017-04-19 21:48:49] sleger : what ???
[2017-04-19 21:48:53] Tetsuo : /listmods
[2017-04-19 21:48:58] sleger : he did ???? mark121 ????????
[2017-04-19 21:49:01] Tetsuo : yes
[2017-04-19 21:49:06] hmmmYea : /listmods
[2017-04-19 21:49:11] BitMEX_Sam : He's banned from chatting, so I wouldn't worry about it.
[2017-04-19 21:49:12] sleger : he should have a 24 years ban as well
[2017-04-19 21:49:24] sleger : farzad deserves a ban too
[2017-04-19 21:49:27] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: he's coming back in a couple hours, no?
[2017-04-19 21:49:30] sleger : just for making him a mod of his bot
[2017-04-19 21:49:37] sleger : hmmmYea: no he has a 24 years ban
[2017-04-19 21:49:40] BitMEX_Sam : If we're feeling benevolent.
[2017-04-19 21:49:46] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: lets not
[2017-04-19 21:50:00] sleger : yeah lets not. whats your favorite drink and your address sam ?
[2017-04-19 21:50:13] zqooN : lol
[2017-04-19 21:50:33] hmmmYea : he could only keep up "good behavior mark121" for 45 minutes
[2017-04-19 21:50:39] hmmmYea : and he was trying soooooooo hard
[2017-04-19 21:51:16] 5bg : BitMEX_Sam: new index 50/50? stamp a lot bigger volume maybe 75/25 better
[2017-04-19 21:51:29] Nutella : /price
[2017-04-19 21:51:31] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1198.12 (0.02%) Bitfinex : 1264.00 (-0.18%) The Woodchipper : 1240.00 (-0.01%) itBit : 1202.64 (0.03%) Kraken : 1206.97 (0.49%) GDAX : 1203.89 (-0.07%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:51:44] 5bg : 1201
[2017-04-19 21:51:47] BitMEX_Sam : 5bg: We won't be making weighting decisions until later. At this time stamp and GDAX are actually equal BTCUSD volume.
[2017-04-19 21:52:13] micmix : 5bg: gdax and stamp are almost equal, usually gdax has higher volume
[2017-04-19 21:52:23] BitMEX_Sam : In terms of eligible candidates, it's fairly well split between gdax, gemini, bitstamp, and btc-e.
[2017-04-19 21:52:32] 5bg : ah my mistake looking at wrong thing
[2017-04-19 21:52:39] wurstgelee : lol, this index stuff is a mess...
[2017-04-19 21:52:46] sleger : yes i think you should put the 5 in the index, remove top price and bottom price, average of 3 in the middle @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-04-19 21:52:57] wurstgelee : sleger: that
[2017-04-19 21:53:12] rapidtrades : no
[2017-04-19 21:53:12] wurstgelee : middle 3 of 5 sounds good
[2017-04-19 21:53:16] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: btc-e? think about the hedgers plz
[2017-04-19 21:53:20] rapidtrades : we're not using 2 rouge exchange
[2017-04-19 21:53:24] 5bg : sleger: agreed
[2017-04-19 21:53:28] Aegis : BitMEX_Sam: why dont u guys like kraken?
[2017-04-19 21:53:32] rapidtrades : micmix: im over there, its not so bad
[2017-04-19 21:53:35] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: I agree with you on that, we are simply listing all available options.
[2017-04-19 21:53:46] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Agreed that it's a mess.
[2017-04-19 21:53:48] wurstgelee : yes, whats wrong with kraken?
[2017-04-19 21:53:51] sleger : micmix: be a man, stop hedging
[2017-04-19 21:53:53] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: I like that option, we'll consider.
[2017-04-19 21:54:04] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Aegis: Adding the EUR pair would require a forex conversion
[2017-04-19 21:54:14] micmix : sleger: lol
[2017-04-19 21:54:32] hmmmYea : when has that system ever failed
[2017-04-19 21:54:33] Aegis : BitMEX_Sam: they have usd pair too
[2017-04-19 21:54:38] hmmmYea : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal
[2017-04-19 21:54:39] 5bg : BitMEX_Sam: surely there are plenty of reliable forex api s to get price from
[2017-04-19 21:54:40] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: they have usd
[2017-04-19 21:54:46] hmmmYea : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Winter_Olympics_figure_skating_scandal
[2017-04-19 21:54:55] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: We haven't generally considered their USD pair to be liquid enough
[2017-04-19 21:55:01] BitMEX_Sam : Although given recent events it appears to be picking up.
[2017-04-19 21:55:08] wurstgelee : it is
[2017-04-19 21:55:17] wurstgelee : volume is bitstamp level
[2017-04-19 21:55:19] wurstgelee : usually more
[2017-04-19 21:55:26] hmmmYea : name a drop high and low settlement system that hasn't resulted in fraud
[2017-04-19 21:55:53] hmmmYea : (im kidding, i dont actually believe it is a bad idea)
[2017-04-19 21:55:55] cryptonoob : so email says index has three constituents, but isn't it only Bitstamp and GDAX?
[2017-04-19 21:55:57] Tetsuo : kraken has USDT so they will get shutdown soon :-)
[2017-04-19 21:56:04] rapidtrades : im loaded, let the games begin
[2017-04-19 21:56:11] 5bg : cryptonoob: 4 mins until just 2
[2017-04-19 21:56:23] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-19 21:56:29] cryptonoob : oh ok I understand now
[2017-04-19 21:56:44] Tetsuo : hmmmYea: so are u saying i was betrayed during winter olympics 2002?
[2017-04-19 21:56:44] BitMEX_Sam : cryptonoob: We tempered the mark price adjustment by adding GDAX 15 minutes early.
[2017-04-19 21:56:56] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 21:56:56] cryptonoob : BitMEX_Sam: got it
[2017-04-19 21:56:56] rapidtrades : that was a good call
[2017-04-19 21:56:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 48.81 / 51.19 Daily : 45.89 / 54.12 Weekly : 44.68 / 55.32 Monthly : 47.61 / 52.39```
[2017-04-19 21:57:03] 5bg : new index 1202
[2017-04-19 21:57:04] dorsens : /price
[2017-04-19 21:57:05] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.37 (-0.06%) Bitfinex : 1267.30 (0.26%) The Woodchipper : 1237.18 (-0.23%) itBit : 1201.74 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1203.00 (-0.33%) GDAX : 1204.00 (0.01%) SLQ : 5 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:57:05] Moonlighter : Why is everything dumping so hard?
[2017-04-19 21:57:08] hmmmYea : yes
[2017-04-19 21:57:16] Tetsuo : Moonlighter: cuz crypto is SCAM
[2017-04-19 21:57:18] sleger : Moonlighter: bitcoin ded
[2017-04-19 21:57:21] KyllingLolsson : btc bubble
[2017-04-19 21:57:30] sleger : satoshi started to sell
[2017-04-19 21:57:33] rapidtrades : I'll never crypto again!
[2017-04-19 21:57:41] 5bg : bitcoin dead and it's ghost is haunting us
[2017-04-19 21:57:44] Moonlighter : *cries*
[2017-04-19 21:57:55] KyllingLolsson : But cheap coins later!
[2017-04-19 21:57:59] rapidtrades : 2 mins boys
[2017-04-19 21:58:14] Tetsuo : tic toc
[2017-04-19 21:58:18] 5bg : KyllingLolsson: real cheap if you wait a few months
[2017-04-19 21:58:18] rapidtrades : RIP leveraged longs
[2017-04-19 21:58:22] sleger : surprised not more people sold
[2017-04-19 21:58:27] KyllingLolsson : 5bg: what i plan to do
[2017-04-19 21:58:53] KyllingLolsson : sleger: u should be glad, they pay you :)
[2017-04-19 21:59:54] Tetsuo : wher ei s that idiot chocolatie who demanded finex back in the index, die u fool die
[2017-04-19 22:00:06] Tetsuo : boom
[2017-04-19 22:00:11] KyllingLolsson : woooo
[2017-04-19 22:00:13] KyllingLolsson : omg
[2017-04-19 22:00:14] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200 @ 1205.1
[2017-04-19 22:00:14] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 120000 @ 1207.3 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-19 22:00:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 153767 @ 1186.7 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-19 22:00:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 11233 @ 1190.1
[2017-04-19 22:00:15] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2017-04-19 22:00:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160002 @ 1208.5 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-19 22:00:18] Tetsuo : profitZ
[2017-04-19 22:00:22] KyllingLolsson : Dang!
[2017-04-19 22:00:29] etoque : LOL
[2017-04-19 22:00:41] Tetsuo : DIE BITKORN DIE
[2017-04-19 22:00:46] BombaUcigasa : y u do dis?
[2017-04-19 22:00:54] sleger : its a lesson
[2017-04-19 22:01:05] bingbongfly : Bitstamp aintmoving
[2017-04-19 22:01:05] Sutan : what the fuck?
[2017-04-19 22:01:06] shillosopher : REKTs brought to you by bitmex fucking up and not removing okc this morning :P
[2017-04-19 22:01:07] bingbongfly : is gdax dumping?
[2017-04-19 22:01:18] 5bg : and free money
[2017-04-19 22:01:19] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-04-19 22:01:22] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1196.11 (-0.11%) Bitfinex : 1267.10 (-0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1236.20 (-0.08%) itBit : 1201.07 (-0.06%) Kraken : 1200.06 (-0.24%) GDAX : 1202.22 (-0.15%) SLQ : 4 mins```
[2017-04-19 22:01:23] jayesh : Why Index Price dropped suddenly ?
[2017-04-19 22:01:25] Tetsuo : this was fun
[2017-04-19 22:01:33] Tetsuo : life is good
[2017-04-19 22:01:42] sleger : lets change the index again tomorrow
[2017-04-19 22:01:49] shillosopher : sleger: lol
[2017-04-19 22:01:57] rapidtrades : who's out?
[2017-04-19 22:02:07] 5bg : I could of been greedier but not by much
[2017-04-19 22:02:19] cryptonoob : Finex announces USD transactions all good again tomorrow= Add it back
[2017-04-19 22:02:36] jayesh : Damn. i shorted at 1214 and closed at 1211
[2017-04-19 22:02:44] shillosopher : cryptonoob: lmao
[2017-04-19 22:02:46] rapidtrades : proofs? @cryptonoob
[2017-04-19 22:03:16] cryptonoob : I just got back from tomorrow, time machine broke :(
[2017-04-19 22:03:18] MikeHunt : cryptonoob: source?
[2017-04-19 22:03:35] KyllingLolsson : no sauce
[2017-04-19 22:04:30] rapidtrades : @sleger how are u getting out?
[2017-04-19 22:04:35] jayesh : Did Index change now ?
[2017-04-19 22:04:37] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-19 22:04:39] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.49 (0.12%) Bitfinex : 1264.80 (-0.18%) The Woodchipper : 1236.97 (0.06%) itBit : 1201.40 (0.03%) Kraken : 1203.00 (0.24%) GDAX : 1201.91 (-0.03%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-19 22:04:50] shillosopher : jayesh: yes
[2017-04-19 22:04:53] jayesh : wasnt it supposed to happen at 8.00 UTC
[2017-04-19 22:05:30] shillosopher : jayesh: should have happened when they announced it this morning. But they changed their mind cus the price was moving too fast on okc
[2017-04-19 22:05:45] frog : okcoin became more volatile so got brought forward
[2017-04-19 22:05:46] 5bg : forgot how much fun this trollbox is
[2017-04-19 22:06:18] Tetsuo : still 380 LTC locked in until settlement on friday @ okk. SAD!
[2017-04-19 22:06:41] 5bg : /rapidtrades I remember you were short around $1,000 a few months back, so was I, how'd it work out for you?
[2017-04-19 22:06:50] sleger : 5bg: wrong
[2017-04-19 22:06:51] sleger : it was 800
[2017-04-19 22:06:56] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: r u still short?
[2017-04-19 22:07:26] 5bg : sleger: he was short at $1,000 aswell I never said he started there
[2017-04-19 22:08:07] sleger : 5bg: by that logic he was also short at 1300
[2017-04-19 22:08:12] rapidtrades : LTC alert
[2017-04-19 22:08:12] sleger : which looks good
[2017-04-19 22:08:13] 5bg : I got out at 1080 if I remember right, longed and been short since post etf, average entry around 1150
[2017-04-19 22:08:20] rapidtrades : break of $10 seems imminent
[2017-04-19 22:08:47] zqooN : so now long at 8 UTC for the ones thatdidn't get the memo?
[2017-04-19 22:09:10] 5bg : Am just wondering if he held strong through the etf, legend if he did
[2017-04-19 22:09:20] hh : index changed?
[2017-04-19 22:09:37] Tetsuo : hh: scams got removed
[2017-04-19 22:10:05] shillosopher : yes, bitmex manipulating index price and mark price and rekting gamblers
[2017-04-19 22:10:17] MikeHunt : okc/finex will drag all other exchanges up whether they like it or not
[2017-04-19 22:10:24] hh : nice! but where is the announcement?
[2017-04-19 22:10:29] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: WRONG
[2017-04-19 22:10:32] Tetsuo : hh: e-mail
[2017-04-19 22:10:46] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: once faith lost in okc/finex, ppl will cash out
[2017-04-19 22:10:55] MikeHunt : supa nova happens
[2017-04-19 22:11:08] fulrik : Did I just mix index swap....
[2017-04-19 22:11:23] rapidtrades : last stage is BTC withdrawal, then BTC prices crash
[2017-04-19 22:11:29] rapidtrades : withdrawal block*
[2017-04-19 22:11:46] rapidtrades : ANOTHER LTC ALERT, ABOUT TO BREAK 10
[2017-04-19 22:11:50] 5bg : MikeHunt: I think other exchanges were getting pulled by bfx with help of mex for arb, that gone now so maybe not. although a lot of idiots look at bfx and say oh price should be that high
[2017-04-19 22:11:54] Tetsuo : even aethlios still trusts finex, what about the real dummies?
[2017-04-19 22:12:11] MikeHunt : 5bg: thats it, the power of idiocy
[2017-04-19 22:12:20] fulrik : What is this.... https://upl.io/r2cc64 would have liked to open short.......
[2017-04-19 22:12:23] MikeHunt : or fomo
[2017-04-19 22:12:59] rapidtrades : btce now leading the litecoin market
[2017-04-19 22:13:05] Tetsuo : MikeHunt: do u still believe in Finex?
[2017-04-19 22:13:21] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: not after hack
[2017-04-19 22:13:42] MikeHunt : reason im not shorting now is potential for supa nova
[2017-04-19 22:13:50] MikeHunt : that'd be like shorting b4 gox went down
[2017-04-19 22:14:25] rapidtrades : prices crashed back then idiot
[2017-04-19 22:14:31] Tetsuo : it was smart to put in short positions when gox news became official
[2017-04-19 22:14:35] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: not b4 they got pumped to moon
[2017-04-19 22:14:58] rapidtrades : it only mooned cos ppl didn't know about the problems
[2017-04-19 22:15:03] MikeHunt : when/if people exit finex/okc it will cause price rise
[2017-04-19 22:15:04] Tetsuo : MikeHunt: you´re an idiot