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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-04-19 18:15:35] Johnster1 : Moonlighter: Exit buy... [2017-04-19 18:23:40] rugu : whats with this massive buy wall of btc [2017-04-19 18:23:49] rugu : 50 bitcoins at 1210.9 [2017-04-19 18:25:35] shillosopher : someone manipulating the price given the amount of notice before okc is removed from the index [2017-04-19 18:25:49] rugu : its another 14 hrs right? [2017-04-19 18:25:51] shillosopher : should've been removed right at the announcement like bfx [2017-04-19 18:26:13] shillosopher : rugu: little less than that now, but yea [2017-04-19 18:26:45] rugu : hmmm so someone is hoping for a massive squeeze of longs when the swap happens [2017-04-19 18:27:11] shillosopher : someone trying to rekt all the people who shorted on the news that okc will be removed [2017-04-19 18:27:20] rugu : forcing a small bull run [2017-04-19 18:27:47] rugu : ya same guy keeps 50k buy a few cents below the current bid [2017-04-19 18:28:00] sleger : lol you guys are ridiculous [2017-04-19 18:28:01] rugu : but this isn't enough to cause any short @shillosopher [2017-04-19 18:28:03] sleger : this is tiny [2017-04-19 18:28:07] sleger : and doesnt affect the price [2017-04-19 18:28:14] sleger : /price [2017-04-19 18:28:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1204.75 (0.01%) Bitfinex : 1269.00 (0.09%) The Woodchipper : 1223.87 (0.40%) itBit : 1202.78 (-0.02%) Kraken : 1206.83 (-0.09%) GDAX : 1202.90 (0.10%) SLQ : 44 mins``` [2017-04-19 18:28:39] rugu : Bitfinex is th only one at a massive premium, others are +/- 0.5% [2017-04-19 18:28:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 59 @ 0.04179 [2017-04-19 18:28:59] sleger : yes, i meant the 50k orders, that is having no impact [2017-04-19 18:29:57] rugu : sleger: still holding your ltc i see [2017-04-19 18:30:07] rugu : /rekt [2017-04-19 18:30:07] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 2 days, 2 hours, 48 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 113000 @ 1205.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 3 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 216000 @ 1203.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 3 days, 19 hours, 27 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` [2017-04-19 18:30:10] sleger : how do you "see" that ? [2017-04-19 18:30:37] rugu : psychic [2017-04-19 18:36:10] Wings : /sentiment [2017-04-19 18:36:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.87 / 73.13 Daily : 47.05 / 52.95 Weekly : 44.82 / 55.18 Monthly : 47.62 / 52.38``` [2017-04-19 18:38:33] Wings : /price [2017-04-19 18:38:35] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1204.75 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1267.40 (-0.13%) The Woodchipper : 1222.71 (-0.09%) itBit : 1203.65 (0.07%) Kraken : 1205.19 (-0.14%) GDAX : 1202.96 (0.00%) SLQ : 10 mins``` [2017-04-19 18:49:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 20 @ 0.04160 [2017-04-19 18:49:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 3 @ 0.04147 [2017-04-19 18:51:11] urbanon : I love this rekt bot [2017-04-19 18:52:50] Nutella : i wonder if charlie will keep his mouth shut when we drop <$10 [2017-04-19 18:52:57] Nutella : we is worse then FED [2017-04-19 19:00:35] bingbongfly : can we just return to premium on XBTM please? [2017-04-19 19:00:47] bingbongfly : dont' be stupid shorters, we are hitting 2000$ in the summer [2017-04-19 19:02:00] igr : /sentiment [2017-04-19 19:02:04] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 21.43 / 78.57 Daily : 46.97 / 53.03 Weekly : 44.84 / 55.16 Monthly : 47.60 / 52.40``` [2017-04-19 19:02:17] bingbongfly : wow [2017-04-19 19:02:28] bingbongfly : such bullish sentiment :D [2017-04-19 19:04:09] 123abc : pretty sure that is just the last 1 hour [2017-04-19 19:04:19] 123abc : oh duh it says it right there [2017-04-19 19:04:33] 123abc : 194 btc volume [2017-04-19 19:05:12] Ahhere : Ltc ded? [2017-04-19 19:06:03] Ahhere : Coblee pls help [2017-04-19 19:10:30] zqooN : /price [2017-04-19 19:10:33] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1205.44 (0.06%) Bitfinex : 1269.50 (0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1223.99 (0.10%) itBit : 1204.08 (0.04%) Kraken : 1207.92 (0.23%) GDAX : 1202.98 (0.00%) SLQ : 31 mins``` [2017-04-19 19:12:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 22166 @ 1214.8 [2017-04-19 19:15:20] etoque : etc about to pump his life [2017-04-19 19:15:24] etoque : it was time lol [2017-04-19 19:15:32] 123abc : ETC making moves [2017-04-19 19:15:38] 123abc : someone getting in [2017-04-19 19:20:36] 123abc : any ETC news [2017-04-19 19:21:38] etoque : look like investment fund kick in and make effect :) [2017-04-19 19:23:54] bingbongfly : BTC too, shorts getting liq [2017-04-19 19:24:02] bingbongfly : just the start [2017-04-19 19:24:07] bingbongfly : BTC gold, ETC silver ;) [2017-04-19 19:30:45] bingbongfly : now thats some nice xbtm buys [2017-04-19 19:37:02] sleger : I dont understand bitmex post "We do not expect this change to dramatically affect the index price" <= isnt 0kc 20$ above gdax ? [2017-04-19 19:38:09] shillosopher : sleger: they really should have removed it from the index when they announced that they are going to remove it [2017-04-19 19:38:45] sleger : doesnt matter, same effect, i just dont understand why they say no dramatic change on the price [2017-04-19 19:39:11] shillosopher : eh, they should be consistent imo [2017-04-19 19:39:12] alfaCharlie : or 10% reduction every hour that would be more appropriate [2017-04-19 19:39:27] shillosopher : alfaCharlie: or something like that [2017-04-19 19:40:00] sleger : doesnt change anything, I agree with the way they do it, i just dont understand the wording, it made me think that I was missing something [2017-04-19 19:42:25] alfaCharlie : testnet price is 1204.4 [2017-04-19 19:42:43] alfaCharlie : which is gdax + stamp [2017-04-19 19:42:51] zqooN : What made me wonder is that they will add GDAX before implementing new price protecting mechanisms as they have yet to be announced [2017-04-19 19:44:24] alfaCharlie : 12 hours to short some [2017-04-19 19:46:36] alfaCharlie : 12 hours 15 minute remaining [2017-04-19 19:50:39] alfaCharlie : Sometimes Rapidtrade reminds me of the TRAVoR from GTA V [2017-04-19 19:50:40] alfaCharlie : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc [2017-04-19 19:53:19] Aegis : gdax is a joke [2017-04-19 19:56:48] 123abc : easiest short of all time [2017-04-19 19:56:53] 123abc : assuming stamp and gdax dont pump [2017-04-19 20:02:57] shillosopher : they will prob pump now lol [2017-04-19 20:05:59] rapidtrades : are they buying cos purnova went segwit? 4 real? [2017-04-19 20:06:05] rapidtrades : they have 8gh [2017-04-19 20:06:28] rapidtrades : does noone do maths anymore [2017-04-19 20:09:32] Tetsuo : 84 million Litecoin vs 21 mil BTC means 1/4 th of BTC price would be fair for LTC? ~300$? [2017-04-19 20:09:58] sleger : ^ good maths [2017-04-19 20:10:06] rapidtrades : solid math [2017-04-19 20:10:16] rapidtrades : now do one for zcash [2017-04-19 20:10:36] rapidtrades : idiot... [2017-04-19 20:10:43] sleger : Zerocash = 0 [2017-04-19 20:10:53] Tetsuo : ^makes sense [2017-04-19 20:16:06] rapidtrades : ur both idiots [2017-04-19 20:16:24] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: why don't u buy LTC again and join idiot n1 over here > @sleger [2017-04-19 20:16:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 73 @ 0.00875 [2017-04-19 20:16:43] sleger : ^ lol rapid rekt [2017-04-19 20:17:58] rapidtrades : i remember a time when this chat gave good info [2017-04-19 20:18:05] rapidtrades : now its just sleger being an idiot 24/7 [2017-04-19 20:19:03] sleger : rapidtrades: look at archive, you have 3x more searches for your name ! [2017-04-19 20:19:31] sleger : most of them just trying to talk your book or convince yourself that you wont get rekt shorting alts [2017-04-19 20:19:54] Kalman : /joke [2017-04-19 20:19:55] trollbot : ``` I can’t see an end, I have no control and I don’t think there’s any escape – I don’t even have a home anymore... Definitely time for a new keyboard.``` [2017-04-19 20:20:14] rapidtrades : does anyone in this chat like sleger? [2017-04-19 20:20:58] sleger : yes [2017-04-19 20:21:03] shillosopher : when is mark121 gonna be back? [2017-04-19 20:21:16] sleger : does anyone like rapid ? [2017-04-19 20:21:17] hmmmYea : shillosopher: few hours i think [2017-04-19 20:21:31] shillosopher : /me can't wait lol [2017-04-19 20:21:55] hmmmYea : luckily rapid and sleger's bickering will tide us over [2017-04-19 20:22:03] Tetsuo : sleger: @rapidtrades you are both among my personal top 5 in this box <3 [2017-04-19 20:22:35] shillosopher : without mark and rapid this box is boring [2017-04-19 20:22:41] alfaCharlie : I like reading both of your covos... [2017-04-19 20:24:16] frog : from coblee "I'm not using UASF as a threat. And I didn't want it to come off that way as I still want everyone to work together. Also, UASF is not something developers can unilaterally pull off safely. It's called user activated for a reason. If miners are blocking progress that users want, then users can band together and activate the softfork. [2017-04-19 20:24:20] frog : This is done by talking to exchanges and wallets to create consensus among the economic players. If the economic majority is in consensus, then UASF can be done without risk of chain split. [2017-04-19 20:24:47] igr : /sentiment [2017-04-19 20:24:49] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 49.51 / 50.49 Daily : 47.34 / 52.66 Weekly : 44.85 / 55.15 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42``` [2017-04-19 20:24:56] hmmmYea : uasf is a red herring [2017-04-19 20:27:05] hmmmYea : core is too toxic. [2017-04-19 20:27:12] rapidtrades : frog: when? where? [2017-04-19 20:27:26] rapidtrades : nothing on his twitter [2017-04-19 20:27:38] fulrik : What's the positive sentiment on LTC now? [2017-04-19 20:28:11] rapidtrades : some bullshit statement by charlie lee apparently [2017-04-19 20:28:29] rapidtrades : asshole can't keep his mouth shut whenever LTC drops [2017-04-19 20:28:32] frog : https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/669k4d/i_think_from_what_was_tweeted_today_by_coblee_and/?sort=new [2017-04-19 20:29:40] frog : coblee reassuring community that UASF is good idea [2017-04-19 20:30:08] frog : price go up after this, maybe coincidence [2017-04-19 20:30:10] rapidtrades : they can't pull it off safely, no major exchange agrees with UASF yet and they prolly got flooded with LTC emails [2017-04-19 20:30:30] hmmmYea : frog: he is saying that if everyone agrees, then it is not risky. thats an axiom. [2017-04-19 20:30:36] rapidtrades : they tried it last week and hit a wall, that's why they're back with MASF [2017-04-19 20:31:27] rapidtrades : it will split the coin for sure and halve the value....so they can go ahead with it for all i care [2017-04-19 20:32:28] frog : how do they calculate split %age? [2017-04-19 20:33:42] rapidtrades : im just speculating, going by what happened to ETH during their messy fork [2017-04-19 20:33:46] rapidtrades : this will be worse [2017-04-19 20:34:28] rapidtrades : that split was an accident, this one will result in a war [2017-04-19 20:42:58] Tetsuo : War = Everyone against Jihan? [2017-04-19 20:44:04] rapidtrades : everyone? https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools [2017-04-19 20:44:24] rapidtrades : 2 of the top 3 pools are anti-segwit [2017-04-19 20:44:30] amaru : hmmm why are we pumping? [2017-04-19 20:44:38] bingbongfly : There isnt enough coins! [2017-04-19 20:44:48] bingbongfly : Nigeria just buy and buy btc, ignores theTA we post [2017-04-19 20:45:03] amaru : lol [2017-04-19 20:45:36] MikeHunt : okcUSD/fingox going supa nova [2017-04-19 20:45:44] MikeHunt : double mtgox maybe [2017-04-19 20:45:48] rapidtrades : shut up mike [2017-04-19 20:45:58] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: shorts will cry [2017-04-19 20:46:16] rapidtrades : not on BTC/LTC [2017-04-19 20:46:41] rapidtrades : long-term no short will lose money if done on low enough leverage [2017-04-19 20:47:00] rapidtrades : valuations are comically high for every coin right now [2017-04-19 20:48:35] frog : we may end up with original ltc mined by jihan and wang chun and the other chines miners and ltc-seg controlled by charlie mined by the others maybe, quite risky for miners to commit to new ltc coin [2017-04-19 20:48:43] shillosopher : /price [2017-04-19 20:48:44] MikeHunt : i think btc will dump eventually [2017-04-19 20:48:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.99 (-0.20%) Bitfinex : 1267.50 (-0.16%) The Woodchipper : 1226.96 (0.24%) itBit : 1205.22 (0.09%) Kraken : 1206.41 (-0.13%) GDAX : 1206.19 (0.27%) SLQ : 1 hour, 38 mins``` [2017-04-19 20:48:58] MikeHunt : but thats after finex/okc go supa nova [2017-04-19 20:49:06] MikeHunt : like with mtgox [2017-04-19 20:49:13] rapidtrades : wang chun already alluded few times that he doesn't support UASF [2017-04-19 20:49:34] rapidtrades : but he's a fickle bitch so who knows [2017-04-19 20:49:48] rapidtrades : without him, odds of success are 0 [2017-04-19 20:50:39] rapidtrades : there will be noone o secure the new network against jihan attacks [2017-04-19 20:51:08] frog : he only started supporting segwit when he knew charlie didn't have enough hash to get to 75% [2017-04-19 20:51:34] rapidtrades : he did it to make money [2017-04-19 20:51:44] rapidtrades : it was insider trading clear as day [2017-04-19 20:51:58] rapidtrades : LTC pumped 1 day before he announced it [2017-04-19 20:52:09] rapidtrades : he prolly made millions [2017-04-19 20:52:15] frog : but ok in crypto market doesn't have to be hidden like in US [2017-04-19 20:52:40] rapidtrades : just saying he didn't do it for ideological reasons [2017-04-19 20:52:44] rapidtrades : it was $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ [2017-04-19 20:52:55] rapidtrades : so maybe he can be bought again by jihan [2017-04-19 20:53:06] frog : no but he could go against jihan and make money without affecting his relationship [2017-04-19 20:53:44] rapidtrades : he's a wild card [2017-04-19 20:53:57] frog : he will support jihan if required [2017-04-19 20:54:19] shillosopher : /price [2017-04-19 20:54:22] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.54 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1267.40 (-0.01%) The Woodchipper : 1232.23 (0.43%) itBit : 1204.97 (-0.02%) Kraken : 1207.00 (0.05%) GDAX : 1205.10 (-0.09%) SLQ : 5 mins``` [2017-04-19 20:54:34] frog : it is in his interest [2017-04-19 20:54:37] rapidtrades : i think miners are slowly getting pissed off with the discussion [2017-04-19 20:55:07] rapidtrades : they invested the most in LTC and now are threatened by some newly arrived punks on r/litecoin [2017-04-19 20:55:44] rapidtrades : wouldn't be surprised to see bunch of them go rouge during UASF [2017-04-19 20:56:39] frog : wang chun talked about increased security to ltc with greater hash [2017-04-19 20:56:59] frog : and that jihan has more hash available if required [2017-04-19 20:57:28] rapidtrades : yes [2017-04-19 20:58:04] fulrik : They would probably be able to swap some of the hashpower from other coins [2017-04-19 20:58:32] fulrik : Hashpower on ltc is peanuts compared to btc [2017-04-19 20:58:36] frog : i think price going up as uasf will not affect price of original coin and ltc-seg coin will be disaster [2017-04-19 20:58:42] frog : cannot switch [2017-04-19 20:58:53] rapidtrades : fulrik: its not the same algo [2017-04-19 20:59:03] frog : ltc is scrypt [2017-04-19 20:59:05] rapidtrades : its 10 times slower to mine [2017-04-19 20:59:22] fulrik : Yes but I suppose the same hardware can crack both? [2017-04-19 20:59:28] rapidtrades : nope [2017-04-19 20:59:38] frog : f*** k me [2017-04-19 20:59:39] rapidtrades : ASIC....google it [2017-04-19 20:59:52] fulrik : Did already [2017-04-19 21:00:38] fulrik : Of course hardware may not be fully utilized with a switchover but it would still count. Point is - more hashpower can be brought to the party if necessary. [2017-04-19 21:00:51] shillosopher : lol [2017-04-19 21:01:08] rapidtrades : ASIC are highly optimized, u can't beat them [2017-04-19 21:01:24] rapidtrades : only hardware that can come is from other scrypt coins [2017-04-19 21:01:31] shillosopher : ASIC for btc is not the same as an ASIC for ltc [2017-04-19 21:01:35] frog : confirmed by fulrik black is now white [2017-04-19 21:01:36] shillosopher : they use different algorithms [2017-04-19 21:02:05] rapidtrades : but afaik mining profitability for LTC is low, so they would be losing money to switch [2017-04-19 21:02:35] rapidtrades : ofc they could be bought but trolls on reddit don't have that jihan money [2017-04-19 21:02:41] fulrik : I recon hardware is customized to the specific algorithm but it would still offer power if switched to another? [2017-04-19 21:02:54] shillosopher : @fulrik no [2017-04-19 21:03:01] rapidtrades : it would be useless [2017-04-19 21:03:21] rapidtrades : u can get some juice out of graphic cards but very low compared to ASIC [2017-04-19 21:04:02] fulrik : Okay. Wish I could buy a couple of those ASICS and bring 'em back to my past self in 2010 [2017-04-19 21:04:16] fulrik : "Here ya' go chap. Plug these mothers in" [2017-04-19 21:04:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 260 @ 0.002621 [2017-04-19 21:04:45] rapidtrades : u would likely not make money cos difficulty goes up constantly [2017-04-19 21:04:51] shillosopher : trying to use a BTC ASIC miner on LTC is as useful as trying to brush your hair with a blow torch [2017-04-19 21:05:03] rapidtrades : only the most efficient miners survive [2017-04-19 21:05:03] frog : need very cheap power [2017-04-19 21:05:15] frog : like in chyna [2017-04-19 21:05:25] rapidtrades : cheap power and constantly buying the ASICs [2017-04-19 21:05:36] rapidtrades : the new versions [2017-04-19 21:05:43] frog : difficulty increase as more acis are added [2017-04-19 21:05:50] shillosopher : frog: do you know what they pay per kwh in china? [2017-04-19 21:06:12] rapidtrades : LTC already back below 10.50 [2017-04-19 21:06:13] frog : i think 0.035 [2017-04-19 21:06:26] fulrik : https://www.ovoenergy.com/guides/energy-guides/average-electricity-prices-kwh.html [2017-04-19 21:07:01] frog : jihan gets good deal from grid [2017-04-19 21:07:27] fulrik : lol Denmark is the most expensive place. And we tax the shit out of electricity too.... [2017-04-19 21:07:35] shillosopher : I can get like 0.035 ish in canada if you know where to look [2017-04-19 21:07:52] frog : no likely mining will be profiable there [2017-04-19 21:08:02] 5bg : okc price starting to become detached from reality, like bfx. will it be removed from index? [2017-04-19 21:08:03] chocolicious : rapidtrades: you rekt yet? [2017-04-19 21:08:11] shillosopher : 5bg: not yet [2017-04-19 21:08:33] 5bg : shillosopher: has anyone from mex said anything? [2017-04-19 21:08:43] shillosopher : 5bg: check announcements [2017-04-19 21:08:58] frog : that is price jihan offer asic customers not sure of actual price he pays [2017-04-19 21:08:59] shillosopher : they are going to remove it. But only after it pumps up first [2017-04-19 21:09:10] frog : but most likely less [2017-04-19 21:09:32] 5bg : ah I see thanks [2017-04-19 21:09:58] sleger : /price [2017-04-19 21:10:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.31 (-0.02%) Bitfinex : 1268.30 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1235.05 (0.23%) itBit : 1205.24 (0.02%) Kraken : 1207.37 (0.03%) GDAX : 1205.97 (0.07%) SLQ : 15 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:11:35] rapidtrades : yeah :( [2017-04-19 21:11:42] igr : /sentiment [2017-04-19 21:11:45] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 23.33 / 76.67 Daily : 45.21 / 54.79 Weekly : 44.79 / 55.21 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42``` [2017-04-19 21:11:49] rapidtrades : like sleger said, it should've been removed right away [2017-04-19 21:12:32] rapidtrades : now the only true price for LTC in the west is BTCE [2017-04-19 21:12:35] rapidtrades : god help us [2017-04-19 21:13:46] shillosopher : lol index is now over $5 difference from [2017-04-19 21:13:51] shillosopher : swap [2017-04-19 21:13:59] shillosopher : was [2017-04-19 21:14:15] rapidtrades : yeah this is bullshit [2017-04-19 21:14:37] rapidtrades : index will rape shorts again when we all know that pricewill be lower in 12 hrs [2017-04-19 21:14:50] rapidtrades : traders already adjusted for it [2017-04-19 21:14:57] shillosopher : it should've been removed when they announced removal. Like I said this morning [2017-04-19 21:15:08] rapidtrades : i want a refund for the 0.35% I will pay @bitmex [2017-04-19 21:15:16] shillosopher : lol [2017-04-19 21:15:26] stf28 : index for now isn't composed of okc+bs+gdax ? [2017-04-19 21:15:40] rapidtrades : its okc 1/2 right now [2017-04-19 21:15:45] shillosopher : okc and bs [2017-04-19 21:16:03] shillosopher : did they add gdax back? not yet I don't think? [2017-04-19 21:16:15] sleger : you're gonna pay but the index is going down [2017-04-19 21:16:25] rapidtrades : cmon this is BS...@sleger do smth [2017-04-19 21:16:56] stf28 : rapidtrades: @shillosopher thks i was confused [2017-04-19 21:17:09] jung1 : ETC is going fo $10 [2017-04-19 21:17:29] rapidtrades : sleger: a 0.35% refund is fair no? [2017-04-19 21:17:47] hmmmYea : /price [2017-04-19 21:17:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.97 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1266.00 (-0.18%) The Woodchipper : 1238.73 (0.30%) itBit : 1205.98 (0.06%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.05%) GDAX : 1206.21 (0.02%) SLQ : 7 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:17:59] rapidtrades : given that they caused the discount with the announcement [2017-04-19 21:18:23] amaru : wow [2017-04-19 21:18:27] amaru : okc is pumpin [2017-04-19 21:18:30] chocolicious : rapid crying because he's rekt [2017-04-19 21:18:31] shillosopher : lol 5$ diff again index vs swap [2017-04-19 21:18:41] amaru : shillosopher: thank the woodchipper [2017-04-19 21:18:44] rapidtrades : yes we all see it bro [2017-04-19 21:18:45] chocolicious : you're going to get super rekt shorting bitcoin, price will not be below here in 12 hours [2017-04-19 21:19:00] shillosopher : chocolicious: yea [2017-04-19 21:19:16] chocolicious : rapidtrades: rapid I was telling you last night, I was telling you earliuer [2017-04-19 21:19:19] rapidtrades : chocolicious: i have infinite money bish [2017-04-19 21:19:25] chocolicious : you will believe when you're rekt [2017-04-19 21:19:29] rapidtrades : i just want my 0.35% back [2017-04-19 21:19:36] sleger : rapidtrades: you are going to pay funding BUT the index is going down, why is it unfair ? [2017-04-19 21:19:37] chocolicious : rapid keep adding [2017-04-19 21:19:42] chocolicious : it'll go down eventually [2017-04-19 21:20:14] sleger : /price [2017-04-19 21:20:15] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.96 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1267.30 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1240.02 (0.10%) itBit : 1205.59 (-0.03%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1206.04 (-0.01%) SLQ : 2 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:20:16] rapidtrades : sleger: the discount is caused by the announcement, traders know okc will be out so theyre not following the index, thus causing 0.35% fee next [2017-04-19 21:20:20] chocolicious : just let me know when you capitulate, I'll give you liquidity [2017-04-19 21:20:24] sleger : => index will go down by 15$ [2017-04-19 21:20:39] rapidtrades : after i pay 0.35% in fees [2017-04-19 21:20:41] sleger : i think it is fine [2017-04-19 21:20:47] rapidtrades : ur an idiot [2017-04-19 21:20:54] rapidtrades : @bitmex i want a refund [2017-04-19 21:21:02] chocolicious : let me know when you get liquididated, I'll give your liquidation liquidity [2017-04-19 21:21:03] sleger : go trade at 0kc [2017-04-19 21:21:05] sleger : or finex [2017-04-19 21:21:42] 5bg : index will go down $11 currently and most the fee will be is $7 [2017-04-19 21:21:57] shillosopher : lol they edited the announcement and removed the part where they said they don't think okc price will affect the index much so they'll wait 14 hours instead of just removing okc from the index right away [2017-04-19 21:22:10] sleger : whaaat ? shady [2017-04-19 21:22:38] shillosopher : sleger: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/market-disruption-event-okcoin-intl/ do you see it missing? [2017-04-19 21:22:43] frog : yes now gone [2017-04-19 21:23:01] sleger : "[2017-04-19 19:37:02] sleger : I dont understand bitmex post "We do not expect this change to dramatically affect the index price" <= isnt 0kc 20$ above gdax ?" [2017-04-19 21:23:11] rapidtrades : they should remove it right away, its already dangerously diverging [2017-04-19 21:23:11] shillosopher : ^^^ [2017-04-19 21:23:18] rapidtrades : /price [2017-04-19 21:23:21] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.01 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1268.00 (0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1238.91 (-0.09%) itBit : 1204.80 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1205.96 (-0.01%) SLQ : 3 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:23:28] rapidtrades : 3% difference [2017-04-19 21:23:36] crmun : after such news they should remove this illiquid joke immediately, with 0kc Int thin books price could go up hundreds $$$ in there in hours [2017-04-19 21:23:46] rapidtrades : yes that too [2017-04-19 21:23:56] rapidtrades : only traded 1k BTC yesterday [2017-04-19 21:24:22] shillosopher : totally fucking up mark pricing now [2017-04-19 21:24:25] igr : /sentiment [2017-04-19 21:24:27] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 21.18 / 78.82 Daily : 45.28 / 54.72 Weekly : 44.74 / 55.26 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42``` [2017-04-19 21:24:28] crmun : its 200btc to 1300 over there [2017-04-19 21:24:29] shillosopher : good job butmex [2017-04-19 21:24:57] sleger : maybe we should contribute to a fund, then market buy at 0kc and rekt rapid ? [2017-04-19 21:25:07] shillosopher : lol [2017-04-19 21:25:10] sleger : i'll put 100btc [2017-04-19 21:25:56] crmun : on the other hand price could go there very low cuz no fresh money [2017-04-19 21:26:05] BitMEX_Sam : shillosopher: sleger: We are preparing to make a new announcement on this [2017-04-19 21:26:13] BitMEX_Sam : We agree, the schedule needs to be moved forward. [2017-04-19 21:26:18] rapidtrades : ok thank u [2017-04-19 21:26:36] aethlios : sleger: hi again, what are the most advanced decentralized exchanges now? for spot trading. [2017-04-19 21:26:50] hmmmYea : /price [2017-04-19 21:26:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1201.98 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1268.50 (0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1238.07 (-0.07%) itBit : 1204.78 (0.00%) Kraken : 1208.25 (0.02%) GDAX : 1205.71 (-0.02%) SLQ : 3 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:26:57] sleger : aethlios: i think they are ALL completely illiquid [2017-04-19 21:26:59] sleger : and no spot [2017-04-19 21:27:03] sleger : except localbitcoins [2017-04-19 21:27:21] hmmmYea : lol [2017-04-19 21:27:27] rapidtrades : local bitcoins is only liquid in major western ciities [2017-04-19 21:27:34] hmmmYea : you outflanked him [2017-04-19 21:27:38] shillosopher : lol after making losing trades based on the info you released earlier you are now going to update and possibly rekt more trades? [2017-04-19 21:27:42] shillosopher : whatever [2017-04-19 21:27:52] shillosopher : I'm out of positions for now [2017-04-19 21:27:58] sleger : I think bitmex is doing a good job of communicating recently [2017-04-19 21:28:05] igr : /sentiment [2017-04-19 21:28:06] crmun : yes [2017-04-19 21:28:07] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 22.59 / 77.41 Daily : 45.30 / 54.70 Weekly : 44.73 / 55.27 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42``` [2017-04-19 21:28:08] rapidtrades : i agree [2017-04-19 21:28:19] rapidtrades : with sleger ^ [2017-04-19 21:28:30] crmun : +1 [2017-04-19 21:28:35] hmmmYea : /price [2017-04-19 21:28:38] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1191.21 (-0.90%) Bitfinex : 1267.30 (-0.09%) The Woodchipper : 1237.00 (-0.09%) itBit : 1201.22 (-0.30%) Kraken : 1204.00 (-0.35%) GDAX : 1204.03 (-0.14%) SLQ : 1 min, ``` [2017-04-19 21:29:04] shillosopher : 14 hours warning before removal on one exchange, 0 hours before removal on another exchange. What kind of consistency is that? [2017-04-19 21:29:10] bingbongfly : LOl bitstamp took a dum [2017-04-19 21:29:10] bingbongfly : o [2017-04-19 21:29:16] bingbongfly : Toilet blown out [2017-04-19 21:29:32] crmun : stamp is saving shorters arses [2017-04-19 21:29:39] rapidtrades : have no idea whats going on [2017-04-19 21:29:40] shillosopher : nice manipulation bitmex [2017-04-19 21:29:51] rapidtrades : but it will all end with a major crash [2017-04-19 21:29:51] ross : etf denied [2017-04-19 21:29:55] sleger : i have some idea :D [2017-04-19 21:30:05] ross : winklevoss denied again [2017-04-19 21:30:29] 5bg : lol bot's buying because of funding, about to get rekted [2017-04-19 21:30:55] rapidtrades : well that's what u get for not reading this chat [2017-04-19 21:31:17] rapidtrades : learn to read robots! [2017-04-19 21:31:55] shillosopher : should've removed okc this morning like I said [2017-04-19 21:32:07] Bitcoin_N_Robin : uuh bTFD time [2017-04-19 21:32:07] rapidtrades : /price [2017-04-19 21:32:09] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.98 (0.57%) Bitfinex : 1268.60 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1241.09 (0.33%) itBit : 1202.07 (0.07%) Kraken : 1200.01 (-0.33%) GDAX : 1203.53 (-0.04%) SLQ : 3 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:32:17] rapidtrades : yikes [2017-04-19 21:32:22] aethlios : sleger: i have never seen, last 4 years trading crypto, the market so fucked across the board. each exchange and a different price, fear for exchanges, fud, miners against users-devs. [2017-04-19 21:32:27] rapidtrades : its gonna join finex soon [2017-04-19 21:32:33] shillosopher : ^ [2017-04-19 21:32:35] sleger : aethlios: eth is behaving very well [2017-04-19 21:32:42] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam! Thanks for your email. Just to confirm, new index will be 50% bitstamp, 50% gdax? [2017-04-19 21:32:49] aethlios : sleger: lisk too (haha) [2017-04-19 21:32:50] rapidtrades : aethlios: how do u think this will all end? [2017-04-19 21:32:51] sleger : correct @micmix [2017-04-19 21:33:09] crmun : rapidtrades: bearmarket is coming [2017-04-19 21:33:09] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: sleger: Yes, although we are looking to move up the timetable on this [2017-04-19 21:33:11] micmix : sleger: thanks, guess my bot will short some more ;-) [2017-04-19 21:33:14] aethlios : rapidtrades: the solution will be decentralized exchanges. [2017-04-19 21:33:15] BitMEX_Sam : We are discussing right now and will update you all very shortly [2017-04-19 21:33:26] shillosopher : BitMEX_Sam: shoulda removed it this morning [2017-04-19 21:33:28] micmix : thanks guys [2017-04-19 21:33:37] 123abc : etc to the moon [2017-04-19 21:33:39] shillosopher : whoops [2017-04-19 21:33:58] aethlios : rapidtrades: and bitmex to hedge the btc risk. [2017-04-19 21:34:23] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: its better of done ASAP, price difference looks to be widening toward finex levels....impact will be worse the longer u wait imo [2017-04-19 21:34:29] BitMEX_Sam : I'm aware. [2017-04-19 21:34:39] rapidtrades : alright [2017-04-19 21:35:21] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Hi, why not to add as 3rd exchange kraken btcueur live converted with eurusd exchange rate from tradingview?? it has much liquidity [2017-04-19 21:35:43] rapidtrades : does it have to come to that? [2017-04-19 21:35:56] lcj : what happend? ?????? [2017-04-19 21:36:02] micmix : would be better to add another BTC/USD liquid market, like gemini [2017-04-19 21:36:03] 123abc : FCT dumping hard [2017-04-19 21:36:05] BitMEX_Sam : https://blog.bitmex.com/update-on-okcoin-market-disruption-event-removal-expedited/ [2017-04-19 21:36:11] aethlios : rapidtrades: next big thing in crypto will be decentralized exchange. [2017-04-19 21:36:19] 5bg : make this change soon, and then can add kraken in later this week [2017-04-19 21:36:24] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: We are looking into both adding more USD exchanges and the possibility of a EUR market via forex [2017-04-19 21:36:26] lcj : -10$???? [2017-04-19 21:36:48] rapidtrades : /price [2017-04-19 21:36:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1199.86 (0.16%) Bitfinex : 1269.10 (0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1240.62 (-0.04%) itBit : 1202.91 (0.07%) Kraken : 1203.20 (0.27%) GDAX : 1204.69 (0.10%) SLQ : 4 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:37:00] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: EUR market via forex makes hedging much harder [2017-04-19 21:37:32] rapidtrades : hedging is really cheap on forex EUR/USD [2017-04-19 21:37:46] 5bg : kraken xbt/usd is not too small [2017-04-19 21:37:57] micmix : plus kraken is the worst exchange [2017-04-19 21:37:59] rapidtrades : cost is 0.02% [2017-04-19 21:38:24] 5bg : 1/3 coinbase volume [2017-04-19 21:38:32] dorsens : so the index will drop like to around 1203? [2017-04-19 21:38:40] rapidtrades : are u lookin at USD? or their EUR [2017-04-19 21:38:43] dorsens : people gonna get liquidated [2017-04-19 21:38:43] micmix : trading engine takes 2-5 min to execute orders during volatile periods [2017-04-19 21:38:52] rapidtrades : 1/3 of coinbase? [2017-04-19 21:38:57] 5bg : rapidtrades: usd 2mm eur 6mm [2017-04-19 21:39:08] rapidtrades : 6m btc? [2017-04-19 21:39:12] 5bg : coinbase usd 6mil [2017-04-19 21:39:26] 5bg : million usd [2017-04-19 21:39:29] lcj : coinbase is rubbish. [2017-04-19 21:39:49] aethlios : rapidtrades: @sleger https://twitter.com/The_Blocknet/status/854685690516340736 pumped from 270k market cap to 9 million now. [2017-04-19 21:39:54] rapidtrades : oh 6k btc then...that's fairly liquid [2017-04-19 21:40:00] 5bg : I'd say 50% stamp 25% kraken 25% coinbase [2017-04-19 21:40:10] rapidtrades : aethlios: so are u rich now? [2017-04-19 21:40:23] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: https://exchangewar.info/coinprice?btc_usd - gemini is #3 [2017-04-19 21:40:25] aethlios : rapidtrades: now just noticed it. [2017-04-19 21:40:45] 5bg : you guys are crazy there is a free $5-$10 move coming, take it, I am already full up [2017-04-19 21:40:57] sleger : 5bg: i sold 300btc in the past hour [2017-04-19 21:41:05] aethlios : rapidtrades: i don't know if i am rich, now much in liquid wealth you need to have to be considered rich?? [2017-04-19 21:41:12] rapidtrades : /price [2017-04-19 21:41:14] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1199.24 (-0.05%) Bitfinex : 1268.90 (-0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1241.50 (0.07%) itBit : 1202.78 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1206.97 (0.31%) GDAX : 1204.68 (0.00%) SLQ : 4 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:41:15] sleger : 10m+ [2017-04-19 21:41:29] rapidtrades : only like $5 now [2017-04-19 21:41:36] rapidtrades : new index 1203 [2017-04-19 21:41:46] 5bg : sleger: only about 50btc for me [2017-04-19 21:42:32] aethlios : sleger: not rich then. [2017-04-19 21:42:52] aethlios : 5bg: i am super rich based on your rich definition. [2017-04-19 21:42:55] Nutella : /price [2017-04-19 21:42:58] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1198.00 (-0.10%) Bitfinex : 1266.10 (-0.22%) The Woodchipper : 1240.20 (-0.10%) itBit : 1202.78 (0.00%) Kraken : 1201.00 (-0.49%) GDAX : 1204.70 (0.00%) SLQ : 1 min, ``` [2017-04-19 21:43:03] aethlios : 5bg: does ltc count??? [2017-04-19 21:43:16] 5bg : aethlios: it counts double [2017-04-19 21:43:27] micmix : 1 ltc = 2 btc [2017-04-19 21:43:46] lcj : ltc is rubbis too [2017-04-19 21:44:10] stf28 : sleger: you sold it here or @exchanges [2017-04-19 21:44:10] igr : /sentiment [2017-04-19 21:44:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.43 / 66.57 Daily : 45.57 / 54.44 Weekly : 44.66 / 55.34 Monthly : 47.60 / 52.40``` [2017-04-19 21:44:25] sleger : stf28: market sold everywhere [2017-04-19 21:44:31] 5bg : let the bots eat shit [2017-04-19 21:44:33] sleger : hence the crash on stamp [2017-04-19 21:44:51] bingbongfly : crash? x D [2017-04-19 21:44:53] rapidtrades : /price [2017-04-19 21:44:59] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1196.35 (-0.14%) Bitfinex : 1267.10 (0.08%) The Woodchipper : 1240.05 (-0.01%) itBit : 1202.31 (-0.04%) Kraken : 1201.03 (0.00%) GDAX : 1205.33 (0.05%) SLQ : 2 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:45:04] sleger : bingbongfly: small crash [2017-04-19 21:45:39] bingbongfly : 10 dollar crash [2017-04-19 21:45:43] bingbongfly : hope you didnt lose everything [2017-04-19 21:45:53] sleger : im the one who sold dummy [2017-04-19 21:45:54] 5bg : 1201 real index [2017-04-19 21:45:56] stf28 : sleger: everywhere but finex [2017-04-19 21:46:01] stf28 : :D [2017-04-19 21:46:03] aethlios : what a shitty situation, old stamp (no margin, no nothing new) is the only decent benchmark left. [2017-04-19 21:46:07] sleger : stf28: i dont have anything on finex [2017-04-19 21:46:37] aethlios : i have 7,000 ltc in finex waiting for loans to expire and withdraw. [2017-04-19 21:46:44] 5bg : /rekt [2017-04-19 21:46:44] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 2 days, 6 hours, 4 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 113000 @ 1205.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 6 hours, 29 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 216000 @ 1203.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 3 days, 22 hours, 43 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` [2017-04-19 21:47:00] aethlios : but i still trust old finex. [2017-04-19 21:47:08] Tetsuo : aethlios: plz [2017-04-19 21:47:24] etoque : LOL [2017-04-19 21:47:31] etoque : 70 dollars difference between stamp and fine [2017-04-19 21:47:39] Nutella : /price [2017-04-19 21:47:40] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.93 (0.13%) Bitfinex : 1266.30 (-0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1240.15 (0.01%) itBit : 1202.23 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1201.06 (0.00%) GDAX : 1204.70 (-0.05%) SLQ : 2 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:47:56] Tetsuo : next one who calls price will get banned [2017-04-19 21:48:04] sleger : PRICE !!! [2017-04-19 21:48:07] etoque : fake [2017-04-19 21:48:11] Tetsuo : j8 , ban him [2017-04-19 21:48:15] etoque : lol [2017-04-19 21:48:40] Tetsuo : this idoit farzad really made mark a mod, unbelievable [2017-04-19 21:48:48] sleger : wait ? [2017-04-19 21:48:49] 5bg : new index 1200 [2017-04-19 21:48:49] sleger : what ??? [2017-04-19 21:48:53] Tetsuo : /listmods [2017-04-19 21:48:58] sleger : he did ???? mark121 ???????? [2017-04-19 21:49:01] Tetsuo : yes [2017-04-19 21:49:06] hmmmYea : /listmods [2017-04-19 21:49:11] BitMEX_Sam : He's banned from chatting, so I wouldn't worry about it. [2017-04-19 21:49:12] sleger : he should have a 24 years ban as well [2017-04-19 21:49:24] sleger : farzad deserves a ban too [2017-04-19 21:49:27] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: he's coming back in a couple hours, no? [2017-04-19 21:49:30] sleger : just for making him a mod of his bot [2017-04-19 21:49:37] sleger : hmmmYea: no he has a 24 years ban [2017-04-19 21:49:40] BitMEX_Sam : If we're feeling benevolent. [2017-04-19 21:49:46] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: lets not [2017-04-19 21:50:00] sleger : yeah lets not. whats your favorite drink and your address sam ? [2017-04-19 21:50:13] zqooN : lol [2017-04-19 21:50:33] hmmmYea : he could only keep up "good behavior mark121" for 45 minutes [2017-04-19 21:50:39] hmmmYea : and he was trying soooooooo hard [2017-04-19 21:51:16] 5bg : BitMEX_Sam: new index 50/50? stamp a lot bigger volume maybe 75/25 better [2017-04-19 21:51:29] Nutella : /price [2017-04-19 21:51:31] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1198.12 (0.02%) Bitfinex : 1264.00 (-0.18%) The Woodchipper : 1240.00 (-0.01%) itBit : 1202.64 (0.03%) Kraken : 1206.97 (0.49%) GDAX : 1203.89 (-0.07%) SLQ : 3 mins``` [2017-04-19 21:51:44] 5bg : 1201 [2017-04-19 21:51:47] BitMEX_Sam : 5bg: We won't be making weighting decisions until later. At this time stamp and GDAX are actually equal BTCUSD volume. [2017-04-19 21:52:13] micmix : 5bg: gdax and stamp are almost equal, usually gdax has higher volume [2017-04-19 21:52:23] BitMEX_Sam : In terms of eligible candidates, it's fairly well split between gdax, gemini, bitstamp, and btc-e. [2017-04-19 21:52:32] 5bg : ah my mistake looking at wrong thing [2017-04-19 21:52:39] wurstgelee : lol, this index stuff is a mess... [2017-04-19 21:52:46] sleger : yes i think you should put the 5 in the index, remove top price and bottom price, average of 3 in the middle @BitMEX_Sam [2017-04-19 21:52:57] wurstgelee : sleger: that [2017-04-19 21:53:12] rapidtrades : no [2017-04-19 21:53:12] wurstgelee : middle 3 of 5 sounds good [2017-04-19 21:53:16] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: btc-e? think about the hedgers plz [2017-04-19 21:53:20] rapidtrades : we're not using 2 rouge exchange [2017-04-19 21:53:24] 5bg : sleger: agreed [2017-04-19 21:53:28] Aegis : BitMEX_Sam: why dont u guys like kraken? [2017-04-19 21:53:32] rapidtrades : micmix: im over there, its not so bad [2017-04-19 21:53:35] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: I agree with you on that, we are simply listing all available options. [2017-04-19 21:53:46] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Agreed that it's a mess. [2017-04-19 21:53:48] wurstgelee : yes, whats wrong with kraken? [2017-04-19 21:53:51] sleger : micmix: be a man, stop hedging [2017-04-19 21:53:53] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: I like that option, we'll consider. [2017-04-19 21:54:04] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Aegis: Adding the EUR pair would require a forex conversion [2017-04-19 21:54:14] micmix : sleger: lol [2017-04-19 21:54:32] hmmmYea : when has that system ever failed [2017-04-19 21:54:33] Aegis : BitMEX_Sam: they have usd pair too [2017-04-19 21:54:38] hmmmYea : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal