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[2017-04-19 15:28:34] rapidtrades : BTC is aug 1
[2017-04-19 15:28:49] rapidtrades : they wanted sooner to get the fame and money
[2017-04-19 15:29:06] rapidtrades : the first to segwits and all that
[2017-04-19 15:29:12] rapidtrades : its all about the $$$ now
[2017-04-19 15:29:50] rapidtrades : these altcoin pumps don't last that long, Dash died after one month, ETH too
[2017-04-19 15:30:06] rapidtrades : hot money will not wait for jun 1
[2017-04-19 15:31:22] rapidtrades : also after segwit failed last time they tried to lobby exchanges for UASF, sent emails and what now....afaik all were cautious and they didn't get any major takers
[2017-04-19 15:31:35] rapidtrades : so UASF remains very risky business
[2017-04-19 15:32:14] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 15:32:16] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 60.92 / 39.08 Daily : 44.21 / 55.79 Weekly : 45.23 / 54.77 Monthly : 47.64 / 52.36```
[2017-04-19 15:32:18] sleger : "ETH too" ?? lol, are you blind ?
[2017-04-19 15:32:42] rapidtrades : its dead
[2017-04-19 15:33:09] rapidtrades : high reached mar 28
[2017-04-19 15:33:17] rapidtrades : sry mar 25
[2017-04-19 15:33:21] fulrik : Segwit is deceptively being marketed as super-bullish. Once activated on the 'test-net' ltc, it will be easier to push it to btc.
[2017-04-19 15:33:58] sleger : rapidtrades: SPY reached a high on march 1st
[2017-04-19 15:34:02] sleger : so its dead too ?
[2017-04-19 15:34:16] fulrik : rapidtrades: Look at usd value though. Close to all-time-high. My bet is that a breakout is around the corner ;-)
[2017-04-19 15:34:17] Alignment : rapidtrades: whats your position
[2017-04-19 15:34:19] sleger : what a stupid logic
[2017-04-19 15:34:29] rapidtrades : ETH fell 43% from the highs moran
[2017-04-19 15:34:43] sleger : rapidtrades: NO https://cryptowat.ch/gemini/ethusd
[2017-04-19 15:34:55] rapidtrades : ETHBTC is what matters
[2017-04-19 15:34:59] sleger : NO
[2017-04-19 15:35:06] sleger : why not ETH/DASH then
[2017-04-19 15:35:07] rapidtrades : yes its where volume is
[2017-04-19 15:35:14] rapidtrades : not the same
[2017-04-19 15:35:23] sleger : its only because polo doesnt have fiat
[2017-04-19 15:35:28] sleger : you are ridiculous
[2017-04-19 15:35:28] Alignment : a lot of dumb money trapped into eth
[2017-04-19 15:35:36] laisee : someone is using alternative facts
[2017-04-19 15:35:42] Alignment : short eth long factom
[2017-04-19 15:35:44] Alignment : easy money
[2017-04-19 15:35:50] zaico : when is OKcoin going to be remove from the index??
[2017-04-19 15:36:05] sleger : "soon"
[2017-04-19 15:36:15] Alignment : where is the master aethlios
[2017-04-19 15:36:20] Alignment : he saw LTC coming
[2017-04-19 15:36:24] Alignment : guy's good
[2017-04-19 15:37:19] sleger : rapid too
[2017-04-19 15:37:22] sleger : he sold at 4
[2017-04-19 15:37:26] sleger : saw something was coming
[2017-04-19 15:37:26] zaico : sleger: "soon" like in next year soon?
[2017-04-19 15:37:36] herpinator : this was so great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKWLblpVWdQ
[2017-04-19 15:37:40] sleger : zaico: they did not specify, but no probably ~1 day
[2017-04-19 15:38:01] zaico : sleger: what will happen then? only bitstamp?
[2017-04-19 15:38:12] sleger : no, but they did not say what else
[2017-04-19 15:38:30] rapidtrades : stamp+gdax
[2017-04-19 15:38:59] Shoba : probably ^ , but they haven't confirmed (they did say gdax is probably coming back at some point)
[2017-04-19 15:41:53] rapidtrades : I don't understand why they're still defending this area
[2017-04-19 15:45:11] rapidtrades : okc china keeps dropping
[2017-04-19 15:47:43] Jsgh : /price
[2017-04-19 15:47:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.26 (0.13%) Bitfinex : 1265.90 (0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1216.43 (0.06%) itBit : 1199.70 (0.18%) Kraken : 1207.90 (-0.04%) GDAX : 1202.21 (0.10%) SLQ : 2 hours, 14 mins```
[2017-04-19 15:49:06] fulrik : What's your short entry rapidos?
[2017-04-19 15:49:56] rapidtrades : 8.6 average
[2017-04-19 15:50:33] fulrik : That's lower than me and you call me late?
[2017-04-19 15:52:29] sleger : well he shorted at 4, then he added to his losers (something that for over a year he claimed he never ever does)
[2017-04-19 15:53:39] rapidtrades : i don't add to my technical entries
[2017-04-19 15:53:45] rapidtrades : these are fundamental trades
[2017-04-19 15:54:04] rapidtrades : only an idiot wouldn't short LTC two days ago
[2017-04-19 15:54:29] rapidtrades : u can think of them as two seperate trades
[2017-04-19 15:54:36] rapidtrades : well 3 now
[2017-04-19 15:54:43] rapidtrades : I have different exits for all 3
[2017-04-19 15:55:08] sleger : i did not short ltc two days ago
[2017-04-19 15:55:14] sleger : yet i am way smarter ?
[2017-04-19 15:55:28] sleger : and I'm making money while you're losing
[2017-04-19 15:56:31] rapidtrades : you are definitely not smarter
[2017-04-19 15:56:47] aguia7 : Bitmex could lower the rates, to 0.025 again. The current rate, discounts an average of 0.13% in a trade. About 2usd of trade. At lower rates, liquidity would increase. With high rates, the 5min chart is almost unusable ..
[2017-04-19 15:57:00] rapidtrades : also ur fundamental trading is shit, so u can't judge @sleger
[2017-04-19 15:57:05] rapidtrades : mr ETF 65%
[2017-04-19 15:57:23] sleger : yet i make money all the time
[2017-04-19 16:04:33] thomaskikansha : aguia7: fee discount provided with certain trading volume would be nice
[2017-04-19 16:06:19] aguia7 : yes
[2017-04-19 16:09:06] rapidtrades : so what are they waiting for?
[2017-04-19 16:09:25] rapidtrades : its gonna drop <$9 in next 8 days anyway, why not price it in now
[2017-04-19 16:09:43] rapidtrades : so i can take that profit and focus on BTC
[2017-04-19 16:10:50] rapidtrades : segwit block is barely 50% priced in at these levels
[2017-04-19 16:11:01] aguia7 : thomaskikansha: I am recently in bitmex. When I entered it was 0.025. After a short time it has increased :( This disrupts trades in the intraday, reduces trades volume, consequently we have to wait hours to close a trade of 10 usd (example points 1200 - 1210)
[2017-04-19 16:11:36] shillosopher : so I assume okc is staying on the index?
[2017-04-19 16:12:12] rapidtrades : no
[2017-04-19 16:12:42] shillosopher : proof?
[2017-04-19 16:13:03] Tetsuo : here
[2017-04-19 16:13:46] shillosopher : Tetsuo: ?
[2017-04-19 16:14:03] Tetsuo : i confirmed it
[2017-04-19 16:14:17] Tetsuo : just like one of the mods did earlier
[2017-04-19 16:14:25] Tetsuo : check Archive for the last 3 hours
[2017-04-19 16:15:14] sleger : it is going away "soon"
[2017-04-19 16:16:15] shillosopher : lol they are still saying "shortly"
[2017-04-19 16:16:32] rapidtrades : i think LTC going down still
[2017-04-19 16:16:34] shillosopher : been saying that for like 12+ hours
[2017-04-19 16:17:19] Tetsuo : "soonish" can be up to two weeks
[2017-04-19 16:18:59] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 16:19:02] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 73.87 / 26.13 Daily : 42.33 / 57.67 Weekly : 44.99 / 55.01 Monthly : 47.68 / 52.32```
[2017-04-19 16:19:12] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-19 16:19:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.88 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1261.90 (-0.32%) The Woodchipper : 1217.02 (0.05%) itBit : 1201.86 (0.18%) Kraken : 1207.90 (0.00%) GDAX : 1202.70 (0.04%) SLQ : 31 mins```
[2017-04-19 16:30:56] Ahhere : 927 people own half of all bitcoins. Nice
[2017-04-19 16:32:09] Ahhere : 47 individuals own 29% of all bitcoins
[2017-04-19 16:32:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 200 @ 0.005869
[2017-04-19 16:39:28] sleger : Ahhere: and the 927th person owns how much ? 500btc ?
[2017-04-19 16:39:38] sleger : (btw it is probably wallet, not person)
[2017-04-19 16:47:32] bingbongfly : Ahhere: most coins are probably closed, burned
[2017-04-19 16:47:42] bingbongfly : sathoshis coins are most likely lost forever
[2017-04-19 16:56:36] 123abc : there goes ltc
[2017-04-19 16:56:41] 123abc : RIP
[2017-04-19 16:56:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 41 @ 0.00840
[2017-04-19 16:56:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 5 @ 0.00845
[2017-04-19 16:56:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 28 @ 0.00843
[2017-04-19 17:05:50] rapidtrades : ^ LOL
[2017-04-19 17:07:08] rapidtrades : very lil support on btce until $10
[2017-04-19 17:07:34] fulrik : Not to shabby. Getting killed on my XRP spot right now though.. Goddamn shitcoin
[2017-04-19 17:08:47] 123abc : seems ETC is the best coin right now
[2017-04-19 17:09:31] rapidtrades : u know u can short, its not illegal
[2017-04-19 17:19:17] 123abc : 49,000 open LTC contracts and 0 longs in profit
[2017-04-19 17:21:01] rapidgains : lol
[2017-04-19 17:22:09] rapidtrades : really desperate to defend $10 it seems
[2017-04-19 17:22:23] rapidtrades : buying all the way down
[2017-04-19 17:22:53] rapidtrades : they're done, they have no catalysts left
[2017-04-19 17:24:40] 123abc : most longed above 0.0093 on here
[2017-04-19 17:24:58] thomaskikansha : much downside
[2017-04-19 17:25:31] rapidtrades : let's price in the block and be over with it
[2017-04-19 17:25:54] rapidtrades : no need to torture shorts and longs for 8 days, both camps know its gonna happen
[2017-04-19 17:27:59] 123abc : 5000 ltc shorts just closed
[2017-04-19 17:28:17] 123abc : Ahhere: don't know that for sure
[2017-04-19 17:28:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 60 @ 0.00857
[2017-04-19 17:29:01] 123abc : Don't short the bottom
[2017-04-19 17:29:28] rapidtrades : the bottom? you've been saying that since 12.5
[2017-04-19 17:31:17] rapidtrades : price didn't stay flat for 36 hrs to only drop 50 cents imo we break $10 in this push
[2017-04-19 17:38:17] rugu : Maybe jihan will turn around (jk)
[2017-04-19 17:38:43] 123abc : coming up on some bigger walls on poloniex
[2017-04-19 17:39:07] 123abc : going to need 100,000 LTC at least dumped to make a dent
[2017-04-19 17:39:16] rapidtrades : orderbook almost empty on btce
[2017-04-19 17:39:19] rapidtrades : until $10
[2017-04-19 17:39:55] shillosopher : 123abc: or the walls will be pulled lol
[2017-04-19 17:40:41] rugu : do you guys actually trust these order books, walls come and go in seconds
[2017-04-19 17:41:00] rapidtrades : i mean if its empty, its empty
[2017-04-19 17:41:03] rapidtrades : whats not to trust
[2017-04-19 17:41:23] rugu : btce as per cryptowatch has orders at 10.23
[2017-04-19 17:41:53] BitMEX_Greg : Hi guys, please be aware: https://blog.bitmex.com/market-disruption-event-okcoin-intl/
[2017-04-19 17:41:53] rugu : buy at 10.2 on btce
[2017-04-19 17:41:57] rapidtrades : there's a 3k wall at 10.15
[2017-04-19 17:42:24] rapidtrades : 300 LTC, nothing basically
[2017-04-19 17:42:48] 123abc : thanks bitmex
[2017-04-19 17:43:00] 123abc : april 20th
[2017-04-19 17:43:14] rugu : 1550 ltc buys are above 10
[2017-04-19 17:43:19] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-19 17:43:20] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1204.62 (0.06%) Bitfinex : 1267.90 (0.48%) The Woodchipper : 1218.97 (0.16%) itBit : 1203.00 (0.09%) Kraken : 1207.90 (0.00%) GDAX : 1201.73 (-0.08%) SLQ : 1 hour, 24 mins```
[2017-04-19 17:43:46] rapidtrades : phew that notice freaked me out
[2017-04-19 17:43:48] shillosopher : BitMEX_Greg: thanks for the update
[2017-04-19 17:43:53] rapidtrades : thought it was my LTC deleveraged
[2017-04-19 17:44:00] rugu : :D
[2017-04-19 17:44:14] BitMEX_Greg : Let me know if any questions
[2017-04-19 17:45:36] shillosopher : BitMEX_Greg: what is the reasoning behind giving 14 hours notice versus almost instantly removing bitfinex?
[2017-04-19 17:46:02] BitMEX_Greg : OkCoin's price is still somewhat stable compared to the large premium encountered with BFX
[2017-04-19 17:46:04] rapidtrades : it says right there in the post
[2017-04-19 17:46:17] shillosopher : rapidtrades: I didn't ask you
[2017-04-19 17:46:33] 123abc : BitMEX_Greg: proof hardly anyone trades on that site
[2017-04-19 17:46:47] shillosopher : BitMEX_Greg: thanks
[2017-04-19 17:48:05] cryptonoob : so It's just GADAX and Bitstamp now?
[2017-04-19 17:48:14] cryptonoob : why not add Bitflyer?
[2017-04-19 17:48:15] cryptonoob : they have good volume
[2017-04-19 17:49:38] BitMEX_Greg : Because it is a BTC/USD price
[2017-04-19 17:50:22] rapidtrades : guys lets just sell LTC to <$9 and be done with this segwit bullshit
[2017-04-19 17:54:03] cryptonoob : BitMEX_Greg: how bot replacing them with KRAKEN or GEMINI exchanges?
[2017-04-19 17:54:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRJ17`: sell 323 @ 0.016954
[2017-04-19 17:55:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRJ17`: sell 419 @ 0.016880
[2017-04-19 17:55:09] BitMEX_Greg : cryptonoob: Something we are considering
[2017-04-19 17:55:17] cryptonoob : cool
[2017-04-19 17:55:29] Moonlighter : Well OKCoin lasted well, all but a couple of days ><
[2017-04-19 17:55:43] Moonlighter : wut...
[2017-04-19 17:56:00] Moonlighter : I guess saying that coin is naughty :p
[2017-04-19 17:57:30] rapidtrades : who's long LTC here and what are u hoping for?
[2017-04-19 17:57:41] Moonlighter : << Is long
[2017-04-19 17:58:14] rapidtrades : why
[2017-04-19 17:59:38] Moonlighter : After reading Charlie's tweet
[2017-04-19 18:00:33] rugu : Apart from btc ltc, what other pairs you trade here @rapidtrades
[2017-04-19 18:01:17] sleger : I'm long too, because there were losers dumb enough to sell at 4 so I bought their offers
[2017-04-19 18:01:43] rapidtrades : Moonlighter: what tweet
[2017-04-19 18:02:09] MikeHunt : we need another binary
[2017-04-19 18:02:13] MikeHunt : who wins UK elections
[2017-04-19 18:02:17] MikeHunt : Lab or Con
[2017-04-19 18:02:17] rugu : sleger: that was before segwit period 1 right?
[2017-04-19 18:02:27] urbanon : Hi gents, I'm New here, I'm going to catch them all. Bitcoinss, all mine!
[2017-04-19 18:02:30] rugu : MikeHunt: Binary, who nukes a country first, Trump or Putin
[2017-04-19 18:02:57] MikeHunt : Trump or Kim Jong Un
[2017-04-19 18:02:58] sleger : rugu: yes
[2017-04-19 18:03:04] sleger : thats where rapid shorted
[2017-04-19 18:03:30] rugu : lul. I hope you took your exit at $12
[2017-04-19 18:03:36] Moonlighter : rapidtrades: The one explaining the reason for the Sewit drop
[2017-04-19 18:03:46] Moonlighter : firmware updates and harder hash
[2017-04-19 18:04:15] Moonlighter : Segwit^
[2017-04-19 18:05:24] stf28 : urbanon: good luck :)
[2017-04-19 18:06:36] alfaCharlie : I think the day is not far when US citizens won;t be allowed to trade crypto..
[2017-04-19 18:06:40] rugu : sleger: well ltc is close to breaking $10 , just a small drop
[2017-04-19 18:06:49] 123abc : bitfinex $5 away from new high
[2017-04-19 18:07:22] Moonlighter : People are still trading there? ><
[2017-04-19 18:07:23] rapidtrades : #noonecares
[2017-04-19 18:07:38] hmmmYea : 123abc: u mean tether about to hit a new low?
[2017-04-19 18:07:57] rapidtrades : i told ppl months ago to stop quoting me that 'exchange'
[2017-04-19 18:08:03] rapidtrades : it was always fake
[2017-04-19 18:08:16] rapidtrades : fake money, fake volume
[2017-04-19 18:10:06] Moonlighter : More fake than a Rolex you buy from an E-Mail offer.
[2017-04-19 18:12:15] rapidtrades : these bounces are very shallow, LTC will go down more, break $10
[2017-04-19 18:13:40] MikeHunt : looks like okcUSD and fingox could be this years dumptrain
[2017-04-19 18:15:35] Johnster1 : Moonlighter: Exit buy...
[2017-04-19 18:23:40] rugu : whats with this massive buy wall of btc
[2017-04-19 18:23:49] rugu : 50 bitcoins at 1210.9
[2017-04-19 18:25:35] shillosopher : someone manipulating the price given the amount of notice before okc is removed from the index
[2017-04-19 18:25:49] rugu : its another 14 hrs right?
[2017-04-19 18:25:51] shillosopher : should've been removed right at the announcement like bfx
[2017-04-19 18:26:13] shillosopher : rugu: little less than that now, but yea
[2017-04-19 18:26:45] rugu : hmmm so someone is hoping for a massive squeeze of longs when the swap happens
[2017-04-19 18:27:11] shillosopher : someone trying to rekt all the people who shorted on the news that okc will be removed
[2017-04-19 18:27:20] rugu : forcing a small bull run
[2017-04-19 18:27:47] rugu : ya same guy keeps 50k buy a few cents below the current bid
[2017-04-19 18:28:00] sleger : lol you guys are ridiculous
[2017-04-19 18:28:01] rugu : but this isn't enough to cause any short @shillosopher
[2017-04-19 18:28:03] sleger : this is tiny
[2017-04-19 18:28:07] sleger : and doesnt affect the price
[2017-04-19 18:28:14] sleger : /price
[2017-04-19 18:28:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1204.75 (0.01%) Bitfinex : 1269.00 (0.09%) The Woodchipper : 1223.87 (0.40%) itBit : 1202.78 (-0.02%) Kraken : 1206.83 (-0.09%) GDAX : 1202.90 (0.10%) SLQ : 44 mins```
[2017-04-19 18:28:39] rugu : Bitfinex is th only one at a massive premium, others are +/- 0.5%
[2017-04-19 18:28:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 59 @ 0.04179
[2017-04-19 18:28:59] sleger : yes, i meant the 50k orders, that is having no impact
[2017-04-19 18:29:57] rugu : sleger: still holding your ltc i see
[2017-04-19 18:30:07] rugu : /rekt
[2017-04-19 18:30:07] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 2 days, 2 hours, 48 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 113000 @ 1205.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 3 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 216000 @ 1203.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 3 days, 19 hours, 27 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-19 18:30:10] sleger : how do you "see" that ?
[2017-04-19 18:30:37] rugu : psychic
[2017-04-19 18:36:10] Wings : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 18:36:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.87 / 73.13 Daily : 47.05 / 52.95 Weekly : 44.82 / 55.18 Monthly : 47.62 / 52.38```
[2017-04-19 18:38:33] Wings : /price
[2017-04-19 18:38:35] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1204.75 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1267.40 (-0.13%) The Woodchipper : 1222.71 (-0.09%) itBit : 1203.65 (0.07%) Kraken : 1205.19 (-0.14%) GDAX : 1202.96 (0.00%) SLQ : 10 mins```
[2017-04-19 18:49:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 20 @ 0.04160
[2017-04-19 18:49:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 3 @ 0.04147
[2017-04-19 18:51:11] urbanon : I love this rekt bot
[2017-04-19 18:52:50] Nutella : i wonder if charlie will keep his mouth shut when we drop <$10
[2017-04-19 18:52:57] Nutella : we is worse then FED
[2017-04-19 19:00:35] bingbongfly : can we just return to premium on XBTM please?
[2017-04-19 19:00:47] bingbongfly : dont' be stupid shorters, we are hitting 2000$ in the summer
[2017-04-19 19:02:00] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 19:02:04] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 21.43 / 78.57 Daily : 46.97 / 53.03 Weekly : 44.84 / 55.16 Monthly : 47.60 / 52.40```
[2017-04-19 19:02:17] bingbongfly : wow
[2017-04-19 19:02:28] bingbongfly : such bullish sentiment :D
[2017-04-19 19:04:09] 123abc : pretty sure that is just the last 1 hour
[2017-04-19 19:04:19] 123abc : oh duh it says it right there
[2017-04-19 19:04:33] 123abc : 194 btc volume
[2017-04-19 19:05:12] Ahhere : Ltc ded?
[2017-04-19 19:06:03] Ahhere : Coblee pls help
[2017-04-19 19:10:30] zqooN : /price
[2017-04-19 19:10:33] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1205.44 (0.06%) Bitfinex : 1269.50 (0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1223.99 (0.10%) itBit : 1204.08 (0.04%) Kraken : 1207.92 (0.23%) GDAX : 1202.98 (0.00%) SLQ : 31 mins```
[2017-04-19 19:12:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 22166 @ 1214.8
[2017-04-19 19:15:20] etoque : etc about to pump his life
[2017-04-19 19:15:24] etoque : it was time lol
[2017-04-19 19:15:32] 123abc : ETC making moves
[2017-04-19 19:15:38] 123abc : someone getting in
[2017-04-19 19:20:36] 123abc : any ETC news
[2017-04-19 19:21:38] etoque : look like investment fund kick in and make effect :)
[2017-04-19 19:23:54] bingbongfly : BTC too, shorts getting liq
[2017-04-19 19:24:02] bingbongfly : just the start
[2017-04-19 19:24:07] bingbongfly : BTC gold, ETC silver ;)
[2017-04-19 19:30:45] bingbongfly : now thats some nice xbtm buys
[2017-04-19 19:37:02] sleger : I dont understand bitmex post "We do not expect this change to dramatically affect the index price" <= isnt 0kc 20$ above gdax ?
[2017-04-19 19:38:09] shillosopher : sleger: they really should have removed it from the index when they announced that they are going to remove it
[2017-04-19 19:38:45] sleger : doesnt matter, same effect, i just dont understand why they say no dramatic change on the price
[2017-04-19 19:39:11] shillosopher : eh, they should be consistent imo
[2017-04-19 19:39:12] alfaCharlie : or 10% reduction every hour that would be more appropriate
[2017-04-19 19:39:27] shillosopher : alfaCharlie: or something like that
[2017-04-19 19:40:00] sleger : doesnt change anything, I agree with the way they do it, i just dont understand the wording, it made me think that I was missing something
[2017-04-19 19:42:25] alfaCharlie : testnet price is 1204.4
[2017-04-19 19:42:43] alfaCharlie : which is gdax + stamp
[2017-04-19 19:42:51] zqooN : What made me wonder is that they will add GDAX before implementing new price protecting mechanisms as they have yet to be announced
[2017-04-19 19:44:24] alfaCharlie : 12 hours to short some
[2017-04-19 19:46:36] alfaCharlie : 12 hours 15 minute remaining
[2017-04-19 19:50:39] alfaCharlie : Sometimes Rapidtrade reminds me of the TRAVoR from GTA V
[2017-04-19 19:50:40] alfaCharlie : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc
[2017-04-19 19:53:19] Aegis : gdax is a joke
[2017-04-19 19:56:48] 123abc : easiest short of all time
[2017-04-19 19:56:53] 123abc : assuming stamp and gdax dont pump
[2017-04-19 20:02:57] shillosopher : they will prob pump now lol
[2017-04-19 20:05:59] rapidtrades : are they buying cos purnova went segwit? 4 real?
[2017-04-19 20:06:05] rapidtrades : they have 8gh
[2017-04-19 20:06:28] rapidtrades : does noone do maths anymore
[2017-04-19 20:09:32] Tetsuo : 84 million Litecoin vs 21 mil BTC means 1/4 th of BTC price would be fair for LTC? ~300$?
[2017-04-19 20:09:58] sleger : ^ good maths
[2017-04-19 20:10:06] rapidtrades : solid math
[2017-04-19 20:10:16] rapidtrades : now do one for zcash
[2017-04-19 20:10:36] rapidtrades : idiot...
[2017-04-19 20:10:43] sleger : Zerocash = 0
[2017-04-19 20:10:53] Tetsuo : ^makes sense
[2017-04-19 20:16:06] rapidtrades : ur both idiots
[2017-04-19 20:16:24] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: why don't u buy LTC again and join idiot n1 over here > @sleger
[2017-04-19 20:16:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 73 @ 0.00875
[2017-04-19 20:16:43] sleger : ^ lol rapid rekt
[2017-04-19 20:17:58] rapidtrades : i remember a time when this chat gave good info
[2017-04-19 20:18:05] rapidtrades : now its just sleger being an idiot 24/7
[2017-04-19 20:19:03] sleger : rapidtrades: look at archive, you have 3x more searches for your name !
[2017-04-19 20:19:31] sleger : most of them just trying to talk your book or convince yourself that you wont get rekt shorting alts
[2017-04-19 20:19:54] Kalman : /joke
[2017-04-19 20:19:55] trollbot : ``` I can’t see an end, I have no control and I don’t think there’s any escape – I don’t even have a home anymore... Definitely time for a new keyboard.```
[2017-04-19 20:20:14] rapidtrades : does anyone in this chat like sleger?
[2017-04-19 20:20:58] sleger : yes
[2017-04-19 20:21:03] shillosopher : when is mark121 gonna be back?
[2017-04-19 20:21:16] sleger : does anyone like rapid ?
[2017-04-19 20:21:17] hmmmYea : shillosopher: few hours i think
[2017-04-19 20:21:31] shillosopher : /me can't wait lol
[2017-04-19 20:21:55] hmmmYea : luckily rapid and sleger's bickering will tide us over
[2017-04-19 20:22:03] Tetsuo : sleger: @rapidtrades you are both among my personal top 5 in this box <3
[2017-04-19 20:22:35] shillosopher : without mark and rapid this box is boring
[2017-04-19 20:22:41] alfaCharlie : I like reading both of your covos...
[2017-04-19 20:24:16] frog : from coblee "I'm not using UASF as a threat. And I didn't want it to come off that way as I still want everyone to work together. Also, UASF is not something developers can unilaterally pull off safely. It's called user activated for a reason. If miners are blocking progress that users want, then users can band together and activate the softfork.
[2017-04-19 20:24:20] frog : This is done by talking to exchanges and wallets to create consensus among the economic players. If the economic majority is in consensus, then UASF can be done without risk of chain split.
[2017-04-19 20:24:47] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 20:24:49] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 49.51 / 50.49 Daily : 47.34 / 52.66 Weekly : 44.85 / 55.15 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 20:24:56] hmmmYea : uasf is a red herring
[2017-04-19 20:27:05] hmmmYea : core is too toxic.
[2017-04-19 20:27:12] rapidtrades : frog: when? where?
[2017-04-19 20:27:26] rapidtrades : nothing on his twitter
[2017-04-19 20:27:38] fulrik : What's the positive sentiment on LTC now?
[2017-04-19 20:28:11] rapidtrades : some bullshit statement by charlie lee apparently
[2017-04-19 20:28:29] rapidtrades : asshole can't keep his mouth shut whenever LTC drops
[2017-04-19 20:28:32] frog : https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/669k4d/i_think_from_what_was_tweeted_today_by_coblee_and/?sort=new
[2017-04-19 20:29:40] frog : coblee reassuring community that UASF is good idea
[2017-04-19 20:30:08] frog : price go up after this, maybe coincidence
[2017-04-19 20:30:10] rapidtrades : they can't pull it off safely, no major exchange agrees with UASF yet and they prolly got flooded with LTC emails
[2017-04-19 20:30:30] hmmmYea : frog: he is saying that if everyone agrees, then it is not risky. thats an axiom.
[2017-04-19 20:30:36] rapidtrades : they tried it last week and hit a wall, that's why they're back with MASF
[2017-04-19 20:31:27] rapidtrades : it will split the coin for sure and halve the value....so they can go ahead with it for all i care
[2017-04-19 20:32:28] frog : how do they calculate split %age?
[2017-04-19 20:33:42] rapidtrades : im just speculating, going by what happened to ETH during their messy fork
[2017-04-19 20:33:46] rapidtrades : this will be worse
[2017-04-19 20:34:28] rapidtrades : that split was an accident, this one will result in a war
[2017-04-19 20:42:58] Tetsuo : War = Everyone against Jihan?
[2017-04-19 20:44:04] rapidtrades : everyone? https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools
[2017-04-19 20:44:24] rapidtrades : 2 of the top 3 pools are anti-segwit
[2017-04-19 20:44:30] amaru : hmmm why are we pumping?
[2017-04-19 20:44:38] bingbongfly : There isnt enough coins!
[2017-04-19 20:44:48] bingbongfly : Nigeria just buy and buy btc, ignores theTA we post
[2017-04-19 20:45:03] amaru : lol
[2017-04-19 20:45:36] MikeHunt : okcUSD/fingox going supa nova
[2017-04-19 20:45:44] MikeHunt : double mtgox maybe
[2017-04-19 20:45:48] rapidtrades : shut up mike
[2017-04-19 20:45:58] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: shorts will cry
[2017-04-19 20:46:16] rapidtrades : not on BTC/LTC
[2017-04-19 20:46:41] rapidtrades : long-term no short will lose money if done on low enough leverage
[2017-04-19 20:47:00] rapidtrades : valuations are comically high for every coin right now
[2017-04-19 20:48:35] frog : we may end up with original ltc mined by jihan and wang chun and the other chines miners and ltc-seg controlled by charlie mined by the others maybe, quite risky for miners to commit to new ltc coin
[2017-04-19 20:48:43] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-19 20:48:44] MikeHunt : i think btc will dump eventually
[2017-04-19 20:48:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.99 (-0.20%) Bitfinex : 1267.50 (-0.16%) The Woodchipper : 1226.96 (0.24%) itBit : 1205.22 (0.09%) Kraken : 1206.41 (-0.13%) GDAX : 1206.19 (0.27%) SLQ : 1 hour, 38 mins```
[2017-04-19 20:48:58] MikeHunt : but thats after finex/okc go supa nova
[2017-04-19 20:49:06] MikeHunt : like with mtgox
[2017-04-19 20:49:13] rapidtrades : wang chun already alluded few times that he doesn't support UASF
[2017-04-19 20:49:34] rapidtrades : but he's a fickle bitch so who knows
[2017-04-19 20:49:48] rapidtrades : without him, odds of success are 0
[2017-04-19 20:50:39] rapidtrades : there will be noone o secure the new network against jihan attacks
[2017-04-19 20:51:08] frog : he only started supporting segwit when he knew charlie didn't have enough hash to get to 75%
[2017-04-19 20:51:34] rapidtrades : he did it to make money
[2017-04-19 20:51:44] rapidtrades : it was insider trading clear as day
[2017-04-19 20:51:58] rapidtrades : LTC pumped 1 day before he announced it
[2017-04-19 20:52:09] rapidtrades : he prolly made millions
[2017-04-19 20:52:15] frog : but ok in crypto market doesn't have to be hidden like in US
[2017-04-19 20:52:40] rapidtrades : just saying he didn't do it for ideological reasons
[2017-04-19 20:52:44] rapidtrades : it was $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[2017-04-19 20:52:55] rapidtrades : so maybe he can be bought again by jihan
[2017-04-19 20:53:06] frog : no but he could go against jihan and make money without affecting his relationship
[2017-04-19 20:53:44] rapidtrades : he's a wild card
[2017-04-19 20:53:57] frog : he will support jihan if required
[2017-04-19 20:54:19] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-19 20:54:22] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.54 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1267.40 (-0.01%) The Woodchipper : 1232.23 (0.43%) itBit : 1204.97 (-0.02%) Kraken : 1207.00 (0.05%) GDAX : 1205.10 (-0.09%) SLQ : 5 mins```
[2017-04-19 20:54:34] frog : it is in his interest
[2017-04-19 20:54:37] rapidtrades : i think miners are slowly getting pissed off with the discussion
[2017-04-19 20:55:07] rapidtrades : they invested the most in LTC and now are threatened by some newly arrived punks on r/litecoin
[2017-04-19 20:55:44] rapidtrades : wouldn't be surprised to see bunch of them go rouge during UASF
[2017-04-19 20:56:39] frog : wang chun talked about increased security to ltc with greater hash
[2017-04-19 20:56:59] frog : and that jihan has more hash available if required
[2017-04-19 20:57:28] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-04-19 20:58:04] fulrik : They would probably be able to swap some of the hashpower from other coins
[2017-04-19 20:58:32] fulrik : Hashpower on ltc is peanuts compared to btc
[2017-04-19 20:58:36] frog : i think price going up as uasf will not affect price of original coin and ltc-seg coin will be disaster
[2017-04-19 20:58:42] frog : cannot switch
[2017-04-19 20:58:53] rapidtrades : fulrik: its not the same algo
[2017-04-19 20:59:03] frog : ltc is scrypt
[2017-04-19 20:59:05] rapidtrades : its 10 times slower to mine
[2017-04-19 20:59:22] fulrik : Yes but I suppose the same hardware can crack both?
[2017-04-19 20:59:28] rapidtrades : nope
[2017-04-19 20:59:38] frog : f*** k me
[2017-04-19 20:59:39] rapidtrades : ASIC....google it
[2017-04-19 20:59:52] fulrik : Did already
[2017-04-19 21:00:38] fulrik : Of course hardware may not be fully utilized with a switchover but it would still count. Point is - more hashpower can be brought to the party if necessary.
[2017-04-19 21:00:51] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-19 21:01:08] rapidtrades : ASIC are highly optimized, u can't beat them
[2017-04-19 21:01:24] rapidtrades : only hardware that can come is from other scrypt coins
[2017-04-19 21:01:31] shillosopher : ASIC for btc is not the same as an ASIC for ltc
[2017-04-19 21:01:35] frog : confirmed by fulrik black is now white
[2017-04-19 21:01:36] shillosopher : they use different algorithms
[2017-04-19 21:02:05] rapidtrades : but afaik mining profitability for LTC is low, so they would be losing money to switch
[2017-04-19 21:02:35] rapidtrades : ofc they could be bought but trolls on reddit don't have that jihan money
[2017-04-19 21:02:41] fulrik : I recon hardware is customized to the specific algorithm but it would still offer power if switched to another?
[2017-04-19 21:02:54] shillosopher : @fulrik no
[2017-04-19 21:03:01] rapidtrades : it would be useless
[2017-04-19 21:03:21] rapidtrades : u can get some juice out of graphic cards but very low compared to ASIC
[2017-04-19 21:04:02] fulrik : Okay. Wish I could buy a couple of those ASICS and bring 'em back to my past self in 2010
[2017-04-19 21:04:16] fulrik : "Here ya' go chap. Plug these mothers in"
[2017-04-19 21:04:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 260 @ 0.002621
[2017-04-19 21:04:45] rapidtrades : u would likely not make money cos difficulty goes up constantly
[2017-04-19 21:04:51] shillosopher : trying to use a BTC ASIC miner on LTC is as useful as trying to brush your hair with a blow torch
[2017-04-19 21:05:03] rapidtrades : only the most efficient miners survive
[2017-04-19 21:05:03] frog : need very cheap power
[2017-04-19 21:05:15] frog : like in chyna
[2017-04-19 21:05:25] rapidtrades : cheap power and constantly buying the ASICs
[2017-04-19 21:05:36] rapidtrades : the new versions
[2017-04-19 21:05:43] frog : difficulty increase as more acis are added
[2017-04-19 21:05:50] shillosopher : frog: do you know what they pay per kwh in china?
[2017-04-19 21:06:12] rapidtrades : LTC already back below 10.50
[2017-04-19 21:06:13] frog : i think 0.035
[2017-04-19 21:06:26] fulrik : https://www.ovoenergy.com/guides/energy-guides/average-electricity-prices-kwh.html
[2017-04-19 21:07:01] frog : jihan gets good deal from grid
[2017-04-19 21:07:27] fulrik : lol Denmark is the most expensive place. And we tax the shit out of electricity too....
[2017-04-19 21:07:35] shillosopher : I can get like 0.035 ish in canada if you know where to look
[2017-04-19 21:07:52] frog : no likely mining will be profiable there
[2017-04-19 21:08:02] 5bg : okc price starting to become detached from reality, like bfx. will it be removed from index?
[2017-04-19 21:08:03] chocolicious : rapidtrades: you rekt yet?
[2017-04-19 21:08:11] shillosopher : 5bg: not yet
[2017-04-19 21:08:33] 5bg : shillosopher: has anyone from mex said anything?
[2017-04-19 21:08:43] shillosopher : 5bg: check announcements
[2017-04-19 21:08:58] frog : that is price jihan offer asic customers not sure of actual price he pays
[2017-04-19 21:08:59] shillosopher : they are going to remove it. But only after it pumps up first
[2017-04-19 21:09:10] frog : but most likely less
[2017-04-19 21:09:32] 5bg : ah I see thanks
[2017-04-19 21:09:58] sleger : /price
[2017-04-19 21:10:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.31 (-0.02%) Bitfinex : 1268.30 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1235.05 (0.23%) itBit : 1205.24 (0.02%) Kraken : 1207.37 (0.03%) GDAX : 1205.97 (0.07%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:11:35] rapidtrades : yeah :(
[2017-04-19 21:11:42] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 21:11:45] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 23.33 / 76.67 Daily : 45.21 / 54.79 Weekly : 44.79 / 55.21 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 21:11:49] rapidtrades : like sleger said, it should've been removed right away
[2017-04-19 21:12:32] rapidtrades : now the only true price for LTC in the west is BTCE
[2017-04-19 21:12:35] rapidtrades : god help us
[2017-04-19 21:13:46] shillosopher : lol index is now over $5 difference from
[2017-04-19 21:13:51] shillosopher : swap
[2017-04-19 21:13:59] shillosopher : was
[2017-04-19 21:14:15] rapidtrades : yeah this is bullshit
[2017-04-19 21:14:37] rapidtrades : index will rape shorts again when we all know that pricewill be lower in 12 hrs
[2017-04-19 21:14:50] rapidtrades : traders already adjusted for it
[2017-04-19 21:14:57] shillosopher : it should've been removed when they announced removal. Like I said this morning
[2017-04-19 21:15:08] rapidtrades : i want a refund for the 0.35% I will pay @bitmex
[2017-04-19 21:15:16] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-19 21:15:26] stf28 : index for now isn't composed of okc+bs+gdax ?
[2017-04-19 21:15:40] rapidtrades : its okc 1/2 right now
[2017-04-19 21:15:45] shillosopher : okc and bs
[2017-04-19 21:16:03] shillosopher : did they add gdax back? not yet I don't think?
[2017-04-19 21:16:15] sleger : you're gonna pay but the index is going down
[2017-04-19 21:16:25] rapidtrades : cmon this is BS...@sleger do smth
[2017-04-19 21:16:56] stf28 : rapidtrades: @shillosopher thks i was confused
[2017-04-19 21:17:09] jung1 : ETC is going fo $10
[2017-04-19 21:17:29] rapidtrades : sleger: a 0.35% refund is fair no?
[2017-04-19 21:17:47] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-19 21:17:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.97 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1266.00 (-0.18%) The Woodchipper : 1238.73 (0.30%) itBit : 1205.98 (0.06%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.05%) GDAX : 1206.21 (0.02%) SLQ : 7 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:17:59] rapidtrades : given that they caused the discount with the announcement
[2017-04-19 21:18:23] amaru : wow
[2017-04-19 21:18:27] amaru : okc is pumpin
[2017-04-19 21:18:30] chocolicious : rapid crying because he's rekt
[2017-04-19 21:18:31] shillosopher : lol 5$ diff again index vs swap
[2017-04-19 21:18:41] amaru : shillosopher: thank the woodchipper
[2017-04-19 21:18:44] rapidtrades : yes we all see it bro
[2017-04-19 21:18:45] chocolicious : you're going to get super rekt shorting bitcoin, price will not be below here in 12 hours
[2017-04-19 21:19:00] shillosopher : chocolicious: yea
[2017-04-19 21:19:16] chocolicious : rapidtrades: rapid I was telling you last night, I was telling you earliuer
[2017-04-19 21:19:19] rapidtrades : chocolicious: i have infinite money bish
[2017-04-19 21:19:25] chocolicious : you will believe when you're rekt
[2017-04-19 21:19:29] rapidtrades : i just want my 0.35% back
[2017-04-19 21:19:36] sleger : rapidtrades: you are going to pay funding BUT the index is going down, why is it unfair ?
[2017-04-19 21:19:37] chocolicious : rapid keep adding
[2017-04-19 21:19:42] chocolicious : it'll go down eventually
[2017-04-19 21:20:14] sleger : /price
[2017-04-19 21:20:15] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.96 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1267.30 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1240.02 (0.10%) itBit : 1205.59 (-0.03%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1206.04 (-0.01%) SLQ : 2 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:20:16] rapidtrades : sleger: the discount is caused by the announcement, traders know okc will be out so theyre not following the index, thus causing 0.35% fee next
[2017-04-19 21:20:20] chocolicious : just let me know when you capitulate, I'll give you liquidity
[2017-04-19 21:20:24] sleger : => index will go down by 15$
[2017-04-19 21:20:39] rapidtrades : after i pay 0.35% in fees
[2017-04-19 21:20:41] sleger : i think it is fine
[2017-04-19 21:20:47] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2017-04-19 21:20:54] rapidtrades : @bitmex i want a refund
[2017-04-19 21:21:02] chocolicious : let me know when you get liquididated, I'll give your liquidation liquidity
[2017-04-19 21:21:03] sleger : go trade at 0kc
[2017-04-19 21:21:05] sleger : or finex
[2017-04-19 21:21:42] 5bg : index will go down $11 currently and most the fee will be is $7
[2017-04-19 21:21:57] shillosopher : lol they edited the announcement and removed the part where they said they don't think okc price will affect the index much so they'll wait 14 hours instead of just removing okc from the index right away
[2017-04-19 21:22:10] sleger : whaaat ? shady
[2017-04-19 21:22:38] shillosopher : sleger: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/market-disruption-event-okcoin-intl/ do you see it missing?
[2017-04-19 21:22:43] frog : yes now gone
[2017-04-19 21:23:01] sleger : "[2017-04-19 19:37:02] sleger : I dont understand bitmex post "We do not expect this change to dramatically affect the index price" <= isnt 0kc 20$ above gdax ?"
[2017-04-19 21:23:11] rapidtrades : they should remove it right away, its already dangerously diverging
[2017-04-19 21:23:11] shillosopher : ^^^
[2017-04-19 21:23:18] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-19 21:23:21] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.01 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1268.00 (0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1238.91 (-0.09%) itBit : 1204.80 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1208.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1205.96 (-0.01%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-19 21:23:28] rapidtrades : 3% difference
[2017-04-19 21:23:36] crmun : after such news they should remove this illiquid joke immediately, with 0kc Int thin books price could go up hundreds $$$ in there in hours
[2017-04-19 21:23:46] rapidtrades : yes that too
[2017-04-19 21:23:56] rapidtrades : only traded 1k BTC yesterday
[2017-04-19 21:24:22] shillosopher : totally fucking up mark pricing now
[2017-04-19 21:24:25] igr : /sentiment