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[2017-04-19 08:29:58] Aegis : can someone tell me wtf is going on with okcoin?
[2017-04-19 08:30:00] Aegis : why so low
[2017-04-19 08:30:15] Tetsuo : Aegis: it´s dying just like Finex
[2017-04-19 08:30:20] Tetsuo : no more deposits / withdrawlks
[2017-04-19 08:30:25] rapidtrades : says 1205
[2017-04-19 08:30:34] rapidtrades : is the API down
[2017-04-19 08:30:59] Aegis : 2 @Tetsuo nothing new though is it
[2017-04-19 08:32:05] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: do u want BFX coin?
[2017-04-19 08:32:29] rapidtrades : as a futures here
[2017-04-19 08:32:29] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: no
[2017-04-19 08:32:34] rapidtrades : why not
[2017-04-19 08:32:56] Tetsuo : bitfinex will manipulate iw with false statements. maybe they will live even for 4 or more months
[2017-04-19 08:33:09] Tetsuo : i hate them and don´t wan´t to touch anything with their name on it
[2017-04-19 08:33:19] Tetsuo : Aegis: news is from yesterday
[2017-04-19 08:33:23] Aegis : rise of decentralised exchanges soon?
[2017-04-19 08:33:42] Aegis : Tetsuo: okcoin news?
[2017-04-19 08:33:53] rapidtrades : what news
[2017-04-19 08:33:55] Aegis : Tetsuo: finex i know its fcked up too
[2017-04-19 08:33:55] Tetsuo : yes u fool
[2017-04-19 08:34:24] brouk : https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder7/60815007.jpg
[2017-04-19 08:34:30] brouk : you still have time
[2017-04-19 08:34:47] Aegis : oh damn they have usd withdrawals blockadedtoo
[2017-04-19 08:34:50] Aegis : :(
[2017-04-19 08:35:21] brouk : Aegis: deposits too I believe
[2017-04-19 08:35:38] Aegis : Well, that means bitmex has disregard okcoin, as its even worse than bitfinex right now as a index weigh
[2017-04-19 08:36:00] Aegis : @bitmex I recommend kraken
[2017-04-19 08:36:11] Aegis : as a replacement to okcoin
[2017-04-19 08:37:22] rapidtrades : kraken USD is barely liquid
[2017-04-19 08:37:44] rapidtrades : they would have to use EUR then / EUR/USD exchange rate
[2017-04-19 08:38:03] rapidtrades : or * EUR/USD sry
[2017-04-19 08:38:40] thomaskikansha : less likely they would do that
[2017-04-19 08:38:57] thomaskikansha : making things more complicated
[2017-04-19 08:40:17] rapidtrades : https://twitter.com/f2pool_wangchun/status/854544466157289472
[2017-04-19 08:40:37] rapidtrades : wang chung is saying UASF would be suicide for litecoin
[2017-04-19 08:40:55] rapidtrades : prolly alluding to Jihan killing their chain
[2017-04-19 08:45:28] zqooN : Just another day in the Chrimbo Korn Wars
[2017-04-19 08:47:01] Aegis : so only btc withdrawals for okcoin now?
[2017-04-19 08:48:37] Aegis : brouk: yh deposits too
[2017-04-19 08:49:46] Tetsuo : https://medium.com/@whalecalls/taiwan-aml-reforms-usd-crypto-drama-15417cbcdf7b
[2017-04-19 08:50:07] Tetsuo : looks like XAPO is also in the drama
[2017-04-19 08:52:49] rapidtrades : weird, didn't know btce processed any USD wires
[2017-04-19 08:52:57] rapidtrades : i thought they banned them years ago
[2017-04-19 08:54:04] rapidtrades : we have no evidence that they used a Taiwanese account
[2017-04-19 08:54:42] rapidtrades : @sleger what bank account does okc use?
[2017-04-19 08:54:49] rapidtrades : i thought it was honk kong
[2017-04-19 08:55:56] rapidtrades : that medium article prolly paid for by bitfinex to make it seem like 'war on crypto' when its really a war on them
[2017-04-19 08:58:54] Aegis : Well, at least now they have to buy btc to withdraw
[2017-04-19 09:00:28] rapidtrades : 2169/3013 (71.99%) blocks signaling! 6048 out of 8064 (75%) blocks are required to activate.
[2017-04-19 09:00:46] rapidtrades : @Tetsuo why not short LTC? its easy sub-10 without segwit
[2017-04-19 09:00:49] Tetsuo : Good time to sell spot on the exit pump (BTC)
[2017-04-19 09:01:07] rapidtrades : i hope kraken fomoes a bit
[2017-04-19 09:01:19] Tetsuo : BTC seems safer to short
[2017-04-19 09:01:31] rapidtrades : doubt it tho, BTCEUR prices have been low for weeks
[2017-04-19 09:02:08] rapidtrades : charts look much more bearish for LTC tho
[2017-04-19 09:02:31] rapidtrades : double top crash followed to pancaked suicide pattern
[2017-04-19 09:03:03] Tetsuo : PnD manipulation from chinese miners is much more easy in LTC. They could let it pump to +20$ on fake news first
[2017-04-19 09:03:28] rapidtrades : there no more news tho
[2017-04-19 09:03:51] rapidtrades : everyone is watching segwit
[2017-04-19 09:04:30] Tetsuo : maybe jihan wu starts signaling segwit with all his new miners for a few days before he stops it, these china kids behave insane
[2017-04-19 09:05:04] rapidtrades : he can't do that with segit at 72%, its still close
[2017-04-19 09:05:20] rapidtrades : he can't afford to stop pumping
[2017-04-19 09:07:09] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 09:07:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 42.66 / 57.34 Daily : 44.13 / 55.87 Weekly : 44.93 / 55.07 Monthly : 47.59 / 52.41```
[2017-04-19 09:08:46] rapidtrades : there's a lot more room for downside in LTC
[2017-04-19 09:09:15] rapidtrades : its still 150% above where it was before f2pool segwitted
[2017-04-19 09:10:05] arbitrage101 : downside for ltc is 11
[2017-04-19 09:10:23] arbitrage101 : upside is infinity?
[2017-04-19 09:10:23] rapidtrades : its already below 11...finexboi
[2017-04-19 09:11:02] arbitrage101 : would do you think 50 dollars, or 100 dollars is out of reach for ltc
[2017-04-19 09:11:04] rapidtrades : don't try to troll me while u have ur funds stuck at bitfinex
[2017-04-19 09:11:07] arbitrage101 : why would you think
[2017-04-19 09:11:26] rapidtrades : srsly, i let u off easy yday cos of that stupidity
[2017-04-19 09:11:42] arbitrage101 : finex should still be alive for at least 3 months
[2017-04-19 09:11:55] arbitrage101 : if they solved their problem, it is good for traders anyway
[2017-04-19 09:12:17] PrinceSalmon : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 09:12:19] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.11 / 66.90 Daily : 43.85 / 56.15 Weekly : 44.93 / 55.08 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 09:12:22] arbitrage101 : as there is no other exchange can replace their functionality
[2017-04-19 09:17:18] Wings : /price
[2017-04-19 09:17:19] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1194.82 (0.27%) Bitfinex : 1261.50 (0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1205.25 (-0.05%) itBit : 1197.61 (0.00%) Kraken : 1200.00 (0.03%) GDAX : 1194.30 (0.18%) SLQ : 54 mins```
[2017-04-19 09:21:53] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: what functionally is that? losing half of my bitcoins?
[2017-04-19 09:22:02] rapidtrades : i can do that on my own thanks
[2017-04-19 09:25:54] arbitrage101 : you mean the 36% haircut?
[2017-04-19 09:26:50] rapidtrades : its only 36% cos they took my dollars to pay for the moonkids being long
[2017-04-19 09:27:04] rapidtrades : thieves go to jail soon
[2017-04-19 09:27:27] arbitrage101 : it is only 18% if you hold for 2-3 months
[2017-04-19 09:27:33] arbitrage101 : and sell at 0.5
[2017-04-19 09:27:50] arbitrage101 : or 6 months at 100%
[2017-04-19 09:28:06] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2017-04-19 09:28:12] arbitrage101 : how so
[2017-04-19 09:28:14] rapidtrades : only an idiot would stay at finex after that
[2017-04-19 09:28:21] arbitrage101 : many did
[2017-04-19 09:28:24] rapidtrades : which u clearly are for staying there for months
[2017-04-19 09:28:29] arbitrage101 : they have viable business model
[2017-04-19 09:28:33] rapidtrades : they are all idiots
[2017-04-19 09:28:42] rapidtrades : owners, u, traders
[2017-04-19 09:29:11] arbitrage101 : lucrative business model
[2017-04-19 09:29:22] arbitrage101 : if the valuation is reasonable, i might even invest
[2017-04-19 09:29:30] aethlios : arbitrage101: what's the news with okcoin futures? and usd withdrawals? any link?
[2017-04-19 09:29:34] arbitrage101 : glad the valuation is high
[2017-04-19 09:29:48] arbitrage101 : aethlios: not sure, just heard it here
[2017-04-19 09:30:08] rapidtrades : u have no clue how lucrative it is
[2017-04-19 09:30:44] rapidtrades : they just did another scam, withholding important market info and redeeemding all tokens while they knew about the WF block
[2017-04-19 09:31:01] rapidtrades : they are doing an exit scam right now
[2017-04-19 09:31:20] arbitrage101 : use logic
[2017-04-19 09:31:28] arbitrage101 : if they want to exit scam
[2017-04-19 09:31:31] arbitrage101 : they wont redeem
[2017-04-19 09:31:43] arbitrage101 : or bother issueing token in the first place
[2017-04-19 09:32:12] rapidtrades : they owned most tokens (as they admitted top 3 of top 10 are theirs)
[2017-04-19 09:32:13] Tetsuo : aethlios: usd deposits and withdraws @ okkoin.com stopped yesterday
[2017-04-19 09:32:48] arbitrage101 : there is no official announcement here yet?
[2017-04-19 09:32:49] rapidtrades : they did the token thing to split the community and lower odds of suing
[2017-04-19 09:32:53] arbitrage101 : on the index
[2017-04-19 09:33:06] BitMEX_John : arbitrage101: not yet, but we will be making an announcement shortly
[2017-04-19 09:33:15] Tetsuo : make it soonisher
[2017-04-19 09:33:19] arbitrage101 : BitMEX_John: ok. thank you
[2017-04-19 09:33:22] rapidtrades : so some idiots like u can say if u waited u would've gotten 90% back...while others lost 30%
[2017-04-19 09:33:32] Tetsuo : he clearly is a fool
[2017-04-19 09:33:41] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: the method of making money is buy low sell high
[2017-04-19 09:34:01] arbitrage101 : price will only be low if everyone panic
[2017-04-19 09:34:31] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 09:34:33] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 19.97 / 80.03 Daily : 44.11 / 55.89 Weekly : 44.92 / 55.08 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 09:34:41] arbitrage101 : there is no easy money for you to pick if everyone can see it clearly
[2017-04-19 09:34:43] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: so only weak handes sell, cuz price will go up forever=
[2017-04-19 09:34:47] Tetsuo : ?
[2017-04-19 09:35:00] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: depend on fundamental
[2017-04-19 09:35:08] aethlios : Tetsuo: so it is a general issue with usd and banks, not only finex.
[2017-04-19 09:35:09] arbitrage101 : if we are talking about finex
[2017-04-19 09:35:20] rapidtrades : u severely misjudge counter-party risk and it finally got around to biting u in the ass @arbitrage101
[2017-04-19 09:35:21] Tetsuo : aethlios: or with scammy exchanges
[2017-04-19 09:35:23] arbitrage101 : their business model is still viable
[2017-04-19 09:35:39] Tetsuo : ^ban this troll
[2017-04-19 09:35:46] arbitrage101 : was viable
[2017-04-19 09:35:49] rapidtrades : there are very little true arbs in crypto, just counter-party risk
[2017-04-19 09:36:49] Tetsuo : aethlios: coinbase/bittamp/kraken not affected
[2017-04-19 09:37:05] rapidtrades : ppl were 'arbing' the china-west gap for years and look at them now
[2017-04-19 09:37:06] rapidtrades : where they at?
[2017-04-19 09:37:15] Tetsuo : dead
[2017-04-19 09:37:15] arbitrage101 : i am still around
[2017-04-19 09:37:28] rapidtrades : with 5k left?
[2017-04-19 09:37:31] aethlios : Tetsuo: there must be something with asian banks and usd aml laws.
[2017-04-19 09:37:44] arbitrage101 : XBCM17 24268
[2017-04-19 09:37:48] Tetsuo : aethlios: yes it is. taiwan is crackin down on crypto
[2017-04-19 09:38:00] rapidtrades : we don't know that
[2017-04-19 09:38:13] Tetsuo : true
[2017-04-19 09:38:15] rapidtrades : only 1 medium article suggested that
[2017-04-19 09:38:35] Tetsuo : might also be a rackdown on money laundering exchanges
[2017-04-19 09:38:45] rapidtrades : im almost sure okc used HK and NY bank for USD
[2017-04-19 09:40:03] Tetsuo : i´m getting this every few hours since yesterday"Due to regulation, this function is not availavle in the country/region your currently reside in."
[2017-04-19 09:40:21] Tetsuo : then i write support tell em that my IP is in germany, get unblocked, 2 hours later i can´t use futures again
[2017-04-19 09:40:29] Tetsuo : okk
[2017-04-19 09:40:31] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: which country are you ?
[2017-04-19 09:40:38] Tetsuo : germany
[2017-04-19 09:40:50] aethlios : exchanges now make huge profit from fees, same fees with much more volume and coins. finex payed back so quickly because of huge volumes. so noone wants to scam people when is super profitable. finex also has many shareholders now.
[2017-04-19 09:41:06] arbitrage101 : aethlios: right
[2017-04-19 09:41:13] Tetsuo : Finex might have used tether for their scam
[2017-04-19 09:41:14] arbitrage101 : but fundamental change again
[2017-04-19 09:41:24] arbitrage101 : if bank stop processing for them
[2017-04-19 09:41:27] arbitrage101 : they are done
[2017-04-19 09:41:55] Tetsuo : ur money on finex too
[2017-04-19 09:42:11] arbitrage101 : i will withdraw the moment my coin is free up
[2017-04-19 09:42:29] Actualiteit : free up?
[2017-04-19 09:42:35] arbitrage101 : stuck in lending
[2017-04-19 09:42:40] Actualiteit : ohh
[2017-04-19 09:42:48] aethlios : arbitrage101: they can't confiscate the bank accounts, customers won't lose money. the war against crypto from bank cartel will grow as crypto grow, they fight for their survival.
[2017-04-19 09:43:06] arbitrage101 : aethlios: yea, but problem is i dont think they are solvent
[2017-04-19 09:43:19] arbitrage101 : like tetsua mention here
[2017-04-19 09:43:30] arbitrage101 : scam using tether
[2017-04-19 09:43:37] brouk : /price
[2017-04-19 09:43:39] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.18 (0.20%) Bitfinex : 1260.00 (-0.12%) The Woodchipper : 1211.71 (0.54%) itBit : 1196.04 (-0.13%) Kraken : 1197.10 (-0.24%) GDAX : 1197.19 (0.24%) SLQ : 26 mins```
[2017-04-19 09:43:44] arbitrage101 : or use customer money to redeem back all the remaining token
[2017-04-19 09:44:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 700 @ 0.006177
[2017-04-19 09:44:06] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: where should i take profit on my LTC short?
[2017-04-19 09:44:41] Tetsuo : https://twitter.com/wpalczynski/status/854414666960961536
[2017-04-19 09:44:43] rapidtrades : think about it, why redeem 90% if the issue is trivial like getting a new bank account?
[2017-04-19 09:44:57] rapidtrades : this is likely the end of the road for them
[2017-04-19 09:45:16] arbitrage101 : they have been proven to be resourceful
[2017-04-19 09:45:24] Tetsuo : quite the opposite
[2017-04-19 09:45:24] arbitrage101 : and resilient
[2017-04-19 09:45:35] arbitrage101 : still alive after so many mess up
[2017-04-19 09:45:55] Tetsuo : so was Gox
[2017-04-19 09:46:12] Tetsuo : ur a fool if you think that finex is legit, they have lied and stolen so many times
[2017-04-19 09:46:17] rapidtrades : how much did supply go up?
[2017-04-19 09:46:29] arbitrage101 : i withdrew everything from gox 6 months before it went down
[2017-04-19 09:46:45] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: 50m?
[2017-04-19 09:46:45] rapidtrades : yet u stayed at finex
[2017-04-19 09:46:57] arbitrage101 : will withdraw soon
[2017-04-19 09:47:09] rapidtrades : i doubt that
[2017-04-19 09:47:20] Tetsuo : from 7m to 60m since january....
[2017-04-19 09:47:31] arbitrage101 : coin stucked, cant withdraw now
[2017-04-19 09:47:50] Tetsuo : only fools stayed after the latest hack
[2017-04-19 09:48:12] Tetsuo : i withdrew everything 3 years ago
[2017-04-19 09:48:20] Tetsuo : cuz they were already fucked up at that time
[2017-04-19 09:48:26] Tetsuo : could have gone dark anytime
[2017-04-19 09:48:45] arbitrage101 : i guess the trade roll back on flash crash cost you much?
[2017-04-19 09:48:58] rapidtrades : i should've withdrawn all after those 'technical problems' in june
[2017-04-19 09:49:53] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: where can we short tether?
[2017-04-19 09:50:01] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: i got out before as i said too you a few days ago
[2017-04-19 09:50:07] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: nowhere
[2017-04-19 09:50:09] rapidtrades : @bitmex give us tether or BFX futures pls
[2017-04-19 09:50:34] arbitrage101 : you think you can find someone to buy from you at high price?
[2017-04-19 09:50:47] arbitrage101 : when everyone know there is a problem
[2017-04-19 09:50:48] Tetsuo : there are always enough fools around
[2017-04-19 09:50:53] Tetsuo : like you
[2017-04-19 09:51:03] rapidtrades : tether still at 0.99
[2017-04-19 09:51:13] Tetsuo : everything will be fine(x) they will say
[2017-04-19 09:51:16] rapidtrades : tether futures NOW!
[2017-04-19 09:51:33] BitMEX_John : rapidtrades: could you clarify what you mean by finex futures?
[2017-04-19 09:51:58] rapidtrades : same as june but index/mark based on BFX price only
[2017-04-19 09:52:03] Actualiteit : lol
[2017-04-19 09:52:16] BitMEX_John : rapidtrades: oh I see, interesting proposition!
[2017-04-19 09:52:26] Trebile : How can I remove my trading account?
[2017-04-19 09:53:11] rapidtrades : https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/tether/#charts
[2017-04-19 09:53:23] rapidtrades : ^ don't understand, why would they print so much tether
[2017-04-19 09:53:43] rapidtrades : any reason besides paying back tokens....and why hasn't tether crashed yet
[2017-04-19 09:53:46] jayesh : BitMEX_John: Hey OKCoin has also freezed Deposits of USD. WHat are you going to do now ?
[2017-04-19 09:53:47] BitMEX_John : Trebile: please send an email to support@bitmex.com from your account email requesting your account to be deleted
[2017-04-19 09:54:10] BitMEX_John : jayesh: we are correctly working on a fix, an announcement will be made shortly
[2017-04-19 09:54:28] Trebile : Ok, I'll do so.
[2017-04-19 09:57:12] aethlios : don't listen to rapid. panic sold bfx 0.25 and shorted ltc 4.45, he get's scared and panic in a jiffy, probably living in a cave now from his fear to not get scammed.
[2017-04-19 09:58:09] arbitrage101 : some people mindset isn't gear for trading
[2017-04-19 09:58:10] Tetsuo : i´m living in a cave right next to him (although 5 stars)
[2017-04-19 09:58:32] rapidtrades : i sold bfx at 0.37, i should've sold at 0.30 when it went live
[2017-04-19 09:58:36] Tetsuo : good luck gettin your money out for a reasonable price when the crackdown in exchanges begins
[2017-04-19 09:58:51] Tetsuo : can´t barely hedge anymore
[2017-04-19 09:58:53] arbitrage101 : it is not fiat that is stucked
[2017-04-19 09:58:57] Tetsuo : okk dead, finex dead
[2017-04-19 09:59:00] arbitrage101 : coin already hedged
[2017-04-19 09:59:08] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: where?
[2017-04-19 09:59:12] Tetsuo : in here you might get adld
[2017-04-19 09:59:21] l3f : BitMEX_John: Can you add bfx back?
[2017-04-19 09:59:22] l3f : I miss it
[2017-04-19 09:59:27] rapidtrades : you WILL get adled
[2017-04-19 09:59:29] Tetsuo : l3f: NO!
[2017-04-19 09:59:32] Tetsuo : SCAM
[2017-04-19 09:59:36] rapidtrades : its a matter of when not if
[2017-04-19 09:59:37] l3f : Tetsuo: but MUH longs
[2017-04-19 09:59:45] Tetsuo : l3f: they will SUFFER
[2017-04-19 09:59:55] l3f : Tetsuo: hahaha
[2017-04-19 10:00:03] BitMEX_John : l3f: haha, not yet I'm afraid!
[2017-04-19 10:00:18] rapidtrades : man really tempting not to add more on this LTC price action
[2017-04-19 10:00:26] l3f : BitMEX_John: what's the status on okc?
[2017-04-19 10:01:14] BitMEX_John : l3f: we are working on some fixes for the index, if we just remove OKC we will be down to just one reference exchange which isn't desirable
[2017-04-19 10:01:23] rapidtrades : okc will be taken out, GDAX back in with limits
[2017-04-19 10:01:27] BitMEX_John : l3f: we will be making an announcement as soon as we can
[2017-04-19 10:01:34] rapidtrades : most likely result
[2017-04-19 10:01:36] Tetsuo : ^maybe itbit too
[2017-04-19 10:01:49] Tetsuo : or/and kraken
[2017-04-19 10:01:50] l3f : BitMEX_John: that's good to hear but it would be nice to have more than 20 minute notice before index switches
[2017-04-19 10:01:51] rapidtrades : itbit volume is very inconsistent
[2017-04-19 10:01:57] Tetsuo : nothing is safe anymore
[2017-04-19 10:02:13] rapidtrades : im only on btce and here right now
[2017-04-19 10:02:22] Tetsuo : stamp and here right now
[2017-04-19 10:02:32] Tetsuo : and my locked up profits in okk
[2017-04-19 10:02:32] aethlios : BitMEX_John: use krakrn eur pair (with it's usd equivalent price based on live eur/usd pair
[2017-04-19 10:02:46] l3f : aethlios: add in CNY for shits and giggles
[2017-04-19 10:02:48] rapidtrades : i should try deribit and report back
[2017-04-19 10:03:03] rapidtrades : bitmex really lacking the weekly/monthly BTC futures
[2017-04-19 10:03:16] rapidtrades : and swap is a financial product of mass destruction
[2017-04-19 10:03:35] aethlios : BitMEX_John: don't use only stamp, is stupid, stamp has less volume than bitmex, can be manipulated easily.
[2017-04-19 10:03:41] Tetsuo : is USA investigates against thther then polo might suffer topo
[2017-04-19 10:03:46] Tetsuo : *tether
[2017-04-19 10:03:54] aethlios : rapidtrades: deribit no volume.
[2017-04-19 10:04:06] rapidtrades : aethlios: they all have less volume then bitmex....cos here its paper traded at 100x
[2017-04-19 10:04:11] rapidtrades : think about it greek
[2017-04-19 10:04:18] Tetsuo : makes sense :-)
[2017-04-19 10:04:24] l3f : mex is literally cfds on leverage
[2017-04-19 10:04:45] aethlios : rapidtrades: that's why you use 4 exchanges, so more difficult to manipulate 4 spot exchanges than one.
[2017-04-19 10:05:14] aethlios : what if bitmex index was only gdax when it crashed to 0.06??? bitmex goes broke.
[2017-04-19 10:05:26] rapidtrades : which 4
[2017-04-19 10:06:34] aethlios : rapidtrades: CF has a nice system, they have 4,5 and exclude the higher and lower and keep every time 3 prices.
[2017-04-19 10:07:05] Tetsuo : it won´t be only Bitstamp
[2017-04-19 10:07:07] Tetsuo : in here
[2017-04-19 10:07:16] Tetsuo : they will probably add gdax and another one
[2017-04-19 10:07:33] aethlios : Tetsuo: only to left in index, if they remove okcoin only stamp is left.
[2017-04-19 10:07:55] Tetsuo : they will remove okk and at the same time add 1 or 2 others, at least that´s my guess
[2017-04-19 10:08:08] Average : /price
[2017-04-19 10:08:09] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.03 (-0.01%) Bitfinex : 1258.10 (-0.15%) The Woodchipper : 1212.16 (0.04%) itBit : 1196.83 (0.07%) Kraken : 1199.00 (0.16%) GDAX : 1197.56 (0.03%) SLQ : 24 mins```
[2017-04-19 10:08:34] Tetsuo : Huobi/USD 1030.00
[2017-04-19 10:10:17] jayesh : Go for BTC-e
[2017-04-19 10:11:07] BitMEX_John : We will not have only one reference exchange in the index, hence why our announcement is taking a little while to get together, we need to finalise some details
[2017-04-19 10:12:07] Average : BitMEX_John: if you have a number of exchanges and filter out the highest and lowest one you wont have any price discrepancies issues when switching indexes
[2017-04-19 10:12:48] Tetsuo : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd still alive!
[2017-04-19 10:13:01] Average : when an exchanges prices goes whack, like GDAX or bitfinex pump, those will just get filtered
[2017-04-19 10:14:06] Actualiteit : Tetsuo: gox should be added to index with weight 5.
[2017-04-19 10:14:11] aethlios : BitMEX_John: true, return finex and gdax, and use filters, when those exchanges return to normal, will just be used to the index automatically/
[2017-04-19 10:14:26] Tetsuo : Actualiteit: +1
[2017-04-19 10:14:54] Tetsuo : aethlios: i doubt that finex will ever return to normal
[2017-04-19 10:14:59] rapidtrades : aethlios: they will never return finex...srsly how stupid are u
[2017-04-19 10:15:02] Tetsuo : gdax is a total different case than finex though
[2017-04-19 10:15:41] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/tether/#charts
[2017-04-19 10:15:43] Tetsuo : look at that scam
[2017-04-19 10:15:44] rapidtrades : i miss my maids
[2017-04-19 10:15:54] rapidtrades : broke a plate yday still haven't cleaned it up
[2017-04-19 10:15:55] Tetsuo : they probably pumped alts on polo with their freshly made usdt
[2017-04-19 10:16:08] rapidtrades : wow....
[2017-04-19 10:16:20] rapidtrades : then cashed them out elsewhere?
[2017-04-19 10:16:39] Tetsuo : maybe yes, at least that´s a theory
[2017-04-19 10:16:48] rapidtrades : and kraken just introduced tether
[2017-04-19 10:17:03] rapidtrades : to give them another avenue to cash out?
[2017-04-19 10:17:07] Tetsuo : and the alt pumpoing started after they 10 folded usdt supply
[2017-04-19 10:17:43] rapidtrades : true...they also increased the USD supply by 70m printed tokens
[2017-04-19 10:17:57] rapidtrades : that fake supported bitcorns for a while
[2017-04-19 10:18:03] Tetsuo : HUGE SCAM!
[2017-04-19 10:18:11] Actualiteit : sounds juicy
[2017-04-19 10:18:22] rapidtrades : it feels like smth was very wrong since around october
[2017-04-19 10:18:30] rapidtrades : charts look ridiculous
[2017-04-19 10:18:31] aethlios : how do you know tether is owned by finex???
[2017-04-19 10:18:36] Actualiteit : sounds like btc needs a soft "reset" again before the next run
[2017-04-19 10:18:41] Tetsuo : aethlios: google it
[2017-04-19 10:18:45] Actualiteit : as all those overpriced alts
[2017-04-19 10:18:54] rapidtrades : so many small green days in a row
[2017-04-19 10:19:13] rapidtrades : never seen this PA in bitcon before, its like smth completely changed the market
[2017-04-19 10:19:31] rapidtrades : if u do %of red/green for sp500 is around 52%
[2017-04-19 10:19:42] rapidtrades : for bitcoin its been 70% past few months
[2017-04-19 10:19:57] stf28 : rapidtrades: volume on chinese exchanges started then
[2017-04-19 10:20:14] rapidtrades : can never see that on other instruments either, even in trends
[2017-04-19 10:20:34] rapidtrades : trends usually have alternating green/red bars, lots of volatility
[2017-04-19 10:20:43] rapidtrades : not this constant green day after day
[2017-04-19 10:22:20] stf28 : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny look 1D
[2017-04-19 10:24:37] stf28 : i think some chinese miners pumped market and they want to cash out usd but finex doesn't agree so pump alts and cash out elsewhere, if it ends at kraken or EUR zone funds will eventually be seized, no one wants the hot potatoe anymore
[2017-04-19 10:25:14] rapidtrades : interesting
[2017-04-19 10:25:46] rapidtrades : either miners or ppl doing capital flight
[2017-04-19 10:26:10] rapidtrades : then they got locked out with the PBOC action
[2017-04-19 10:26:14] Tetsuo : USDT might walk the way of onecoin in europe
[2017-04-19 10:26:15] Tetsuo : https://cointelegraph.com/news/onecoin-partner-banned-in-germany-threatened-with-15-mln-fine
[2017-04-19 10:26:19] stf28 : i agree with market misbehavhior since end of september, same willy price action appeared on btcchina at the moment
[2017-04-19 10:27:55] rapidtrades : https://cointelegraph.com/news/apple-accepts-zcash-as-legitimate-cryptocurrency-now-available-on-ios
[2017-04-19 10:27:57] stf28 : Tetsuo: wow 360 - 29 m$... where are they now?
[2017-04-19 10:28:05] rapidtrades : ^^^ look at the poorly written article
[2017-04-19 10:28:22] rapidtrades : stf28: 360 is likely turnover
[2017-04-19 10:28:27] Tetsuo : http://www.coindesk.com/german-finance-watchdog-shutters-onecoin-payment-processor/
[2017-04-19 10:28:44] rapidtrades : LAST CHANGE TO 'SUB10' TRAIN
[2017-04-19 10:28:50] rapidtrades : LEAVING AT PLATFORM LTC
[2017-04-19 10:30:26] Actualiteit : m8 are you actualy being bullish rn?
[2017-04-19 10:31:11] Actualiteit : oh wait i misread nvm
[2017-04-19 10:32:31] miccheck12 : /price
[2017-04-19 10:32:34] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1199.79 (0.23%) Bitfinex : 1258.10 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1212.22 (0.00%) itBit : 1197.56 (0.06%) Kraken : 1199.10 (0.01%) GDAX : 1197.74 (0.02%) SLQ : 24 mins```
[2017-04-19 10:34:07] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 10:34:10] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 80.73 / 19.27 Daily : 45.03 / 54.97 Weekly : 45.06 / 54.94 Monthly : 47.59 / 52.41```
[2017-04-19 10:35:03] rapidtrades : did mark get banned?
[2017-04-19 10:35:14] Actualiteit : kinda looks like it
[2017-04-19 10:35:17] rapidtrades : I don't see his bullshit anymore
[2017-04-19 10:35:41] Actualiteit : don't be sad, you still have my bullshit
[2017-04-19 10:35:58] rapidtrades : he's on another level tho
[2017-04-19 10:39:33] Tetsuo : Only 24h van
[2017-04-19 10:39:44] Tetsuo : Ban
[2017-04-19 10:40:47] KyllingLolsson : why did he get banned?
[2017-04-19 10:41:43] rapidtrades : LTC just chilling above 10.60 with segwit odds falling
[2017-04-19 10:41:46] rapidtrades : what the f*ck
[2017-04-19 10:42:02] rapidtrades : just break it already, ppl have shit to do
[2017-04-19 10:48:10] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 10:48:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 62.28 / 37.72 Daily : 44.52 / 55.48 Weekly : 45.06 / 54.94 Monthly : 47.61 / 52.39```
[2017-04-19 10:48:45] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/6682zg/unpopular_opinion_here_i_think_charlie_should/
[2017-04-19 10:48:55] rapidtrades : ^ look at those nasty comments
[2017-04-19 10:49:03] rapidtrades : there will be no compromise in LTC
[2017-04-19 10:53:48] KingTuna : Anyone trading ETH?
[2017-04-19 11:02:30] rapidtrades : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Lotito
[2017-04-19 11:05:14] KyllingLolsson : ...
[2017-04-19 11:05:18] KyllingLolsson : Lolito
[2017-04-19 11:05:18] Sultan Pepper : "Natural causes"
[2017-04-19 11:05:20] KingTuna : ETH could be a good long to $60
[2017-04-19 11:06:12] arbitrage101 : was planning to sell all my eth at 500
[2017-04-19 11:08:13] rapidtrades : added more shorts...f*Ck this
[2017-04-19 11:08:41] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: what other job you do?
[2017-04-19 11:08:58] arbitrage101 : seem to never run out of money and keep losing
[2017-04-19 11:09:56] rapidtrades : i trade long-term so it only seems to u that I 'keep losing'
[2017-04-19 11:10:02] rapidtrades : its the same trade bro
[2017-04-19 11:10:31] rapidtrades : only added like 15%
[2017-04-19 11:10:45] arbitrage101 : shorting ltc?
[2017-04-19 11:11:46] rapidtrades : yeah
[2017-04-19 11:12:31] arbitrage101 : you use gut feeling to trade ?
[2017-04-19 11:12:54] rapidtrades : no
[2017-04-19 11:15:28] Actualiteit : my gut indicator just crossed the gut EMA at 50
[2017-04-19 11:16:33] rapidtrades : it looks so dead
[2017-04-19 11:16:54] rapidtrades : only thin that can save it is coinbase, which will only be a small pop
[2017-04-19 11:17:03] rapidtrades : cos its already on every f*cking exchange
[2017-04-19 11:17:17] rapidtrades : its irrelevant news but will be used by idiots to fomo no doubt
[2017-04-19 11:17:20] sleger : wait, you shorted at 4, only added 15% and yet you managed to bring your average price to 8 ? lol
[2017-04-19 11:17:34] rapidtrades : i just added 15% now retrad
[2017-04-19 11:23:17] shiroe : factom to 10 USD
[2017-04-19 11:23:18] aethlios : rapidtrades: keep rest to shrt ltc *25 and *50, so build a decent short position from 4.45
[2017-04-19 11:24:05] aethlios : you know hoe to build loosing positions.
[2017-04-19 11:24:41] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-04-19 11:24:50] rapidtrades : says the guy with his money stuck in finex
[2017-04-19 11:25:07] arbitrage101 : i am the guy
[2017-04-19 11:25:13] aethlios : why stuck?? can withdraw ltc any time.
[2017-04-19 11:25:16] arbitrage101 : aethlios has money stucked at finex?
[2017-04-19 11:25:28] arbitrage101 : aethlios: you should withdraw it now lol
[2017-04-19 11:25:34] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 11:25:36] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.95 / 69.05 Daily : 43.84 / 56.16 Weekly : 45.05 / 54.95 Monthly : 47.62 / 52.38```
[2017-04-19 11:25:56] rapidtrades : aethlios: wait so ur voluntarily keeping money at finex? wow
[2017-04-19 11:25:59] rapidtrades : WoW
[2017-04-19 11:26:24] aethlios : arbitrage101: i will withdraw when loan expire, but i am not in that panic mode like others.
[2017-04-19 11:26:31] rapidtrades : wOOw
[2017-04-19 11:26:39] rapidtrades : test
[2017-04-19 11:27:17] rapidtrades : so u CANT withdraw, ergo stuck
[2017-04-19 11:27:23] rapidtrades : learn english
[2017-04-19 11:28:06] rapidtrades : guys on btce are saying LTC was removed from coinbase status page
[2017-04-19 11:28:24] aethlios : rapidtrades: are you stupid?? lenders keep the loan until expiration, they have the right. i withdraw ltc that they return me.
[2017-04-19 11:29:15] rapidtrades : which will be 0 LTC
[2017-04-19 11:29:22] rapidtrades : play stupid games win stupid prizes
[2017-04-19 11:30:29] KingTuna : ETH I think about to pump next few Dayan
[2017-04-19 11:30:30] KingTuna : Days*
[2017-04-19 11:32:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 1 @ 0.006052
[2017-04-19 11:32:07] aethlios : rapidtrades: you never been a lender, only a borrower, so you don't know how ot works.
[2017-04-19 11:32:44] firaszahde : Hi guys When dragging you drag bitcoin or xbt currency I'm new here Thank
[2017-04-19 11:33:14] MikeHunt : finex might gobbble the lot
[2017-04-19 11:42:58] KyllingLolsson : wow, that language
[2017-04-19 11:43:09] Actualiteit : problem?
[2017-04-19 11:43:11] KyllingLolsson : allmost like google translate
[2017-04-19 11:50:59] aethlios : ltc UASF once announced officially will start new rally for ltc.
[2017-04-19 11:52:02] aethlios : noone will buy the noSW ltc only jihan mined. in a few days all miners will be mining ltcSW chain because there the profit will be.
[2017-04-19 11:52:14] firaszahde : Hi guys When I want to withdraw the currency received bitcoin or xbt?
[2017-04-19 11:52:31] BitMEX_John : firaszahde: bitcoin and xbt are the same thing
[2017-04-19 11:52:35] aethlios : xbt is bitcoin (btc)
[2017-04-19 11:53:26] firaszahde : BitMEX_John: thnks
[2017-04-19 11:56:01] firaszahde : KyllingLolsson: hhhh I really used it
[2017-04-19 11:56:14] rapidtrades : aethlios: yeah gl with that
[2017-04-19 11:56:27] rapidtrades : gl getting ur money out of finex too sucker
[2017-04-19 11:56:41] Actualiteit : I am going all in on finex
[2017-04-19 11:57:09] aethlios : rapidtrades: why finex stopped coin withdrawals??
[2017-04-19 11:57:22] aethlios : stop spreading fud to people.
[2017-04-19 11:58:04] rapidtrades : stop spreading hoping bish
[2017-04-19 11:58:28] rapidtrades : close at 150% gain and don't be greedy
[2017-04-19 11:58:41] rapidtrades : ur pushing ur luck here
[2017-04-19 12:00:55] cccmmm : finex goxed?
[2017-04-19 12:01:14] Ahhere : Foxex gin'd?
[2017-04-19 12:01:22] Actualiteit : fonex gix'd?
[2017-04-19 12:01:58] cccmmm : RIP finex and users
[2017-04-19 12:01:58] aethlios : rapidtrades: how much a position is in profit has no relevance about if must be closed or not. expectations about the future trend determine that.
[2017-04-19 12:02:17] bingbongfly : aethlios: rapidtrades can't trade fo shit
[2017-04-19 12:02:22] rapidtrades : the future trend for 100-500$ litecoin, got it
[2017-04-19 12:02:24] aethlios : that's why i hold my long and you your short!!!
[2017-04-19 12:02:25] bingbongfly : blinded by profit numbers
[2017-04-19 12:03:14] CrazySteve : /price
[2017-04-19 12:03:15] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1201.52 (0.14%) Bitfinex : 1261.00 (0.23%) The Woodchipper : 1215.53 (0.27%) itBit : 1196.29 (-0.11%) Kraken : 1199.94 (0.07%) GDAX : 1199.64 (0.16%) SLQ : 1 hour, 30 mins```
[2017-04-19 12:03:23] bingbongfly : rapidtrades: they said "don't be greedy, take profit" when btc hit $32 ;)
[2017-04-19 12:03:48] aethlios : rapidtrades: future trend until no more upside potential left. also now with the war against exchanges, sell ltc and hold usd?? where?? if move to a bank above 50,000 usd they will send you the police at once.
[2017-04-19 12:04:04] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/cryptocurrency-investment-cues-south-seas-bubble/
[2017-04-19 12:05:55] bingbongfly : rapidtrades: https://99bitcoins.com/why-bitcoin-will-fail/
[2017-04-19 12:07:21] charlyko : still in time to withdraw ? THX
[2017-04-19 12:08:11] BitMEX_John : charlyko: are you referring to BitMEX?
[2017-04-19 12:08:44] BitMEX_John : charlyko: if so, today's patch will be processed in just under an hour
[2017-04-19 12:08:48] BitMEX_John : batch*
[2017-04-19 12:09:24] Dynamix : John, there should be atleast 2 withdrawals per day man
[2017-04-19 12:09:37] Dynamix : 12hrs or something ...
[2017-04-19 12:09:41] MikeHunt : PBOC easing capital controls
[2017-04-19 12:09:44] MikeHunt : could be good for china btc
[2017-04-19 12:10:02] Dynamix : Will be much better imo, + how harder can it be to add 1 more time to your withdrawals :)
[2017-04-19 12:10:13] charlyko : BitMEX_John: yes. thank you so much.
[2017-04-19 12:11:36] BitMEX_John : Dynamix: our withdrawal procedure is manual, to ensure a very high level security
[2017-04-19 12:12:09] BitMEX_John : Dynamix: I agree with you that more regular withdrawals would be much more convenient but we would prefer to put security first, we have never had any security issues with our process
[2017-04-19 12:12:18] BitMEX_John : Dynamix: and we are very proud of that record :)
[2017-04-19 12:12:44] Dynamix : Haha, well fair enough. Keep it going like that
[2017-04-19 12:12:53] Dynamix : I sometimes forget to withdraw within the time ,
[2017-04-19 12:13:16] Dynamix : Having another time can ensure that someone gets their btc when they need to ...
[2017-04-19 12:13:35] Dynamix : Or people trading from China / Usa or whatever... different timelines not so good
[2017-04-19 12:14:54] BitMEX_John : Dynamix: understood :)
[2017-04-19 12:16:53] rapidtrades : its raining and the proles and shuffling to/from work/school
[2017-04-19 12:17:00] rapidtrades : are*
[2017-04-19 12:21:38] jwlondon98 : hey everyone. new to the site but im really digging the UI :D
[2017-04-19 12:21:51] BitMEX_John : jwlondon98: welcome :)
[2017-04-19 12:22:55] rapidtrades : LTC segwit % slowly dropping, traders will have to price that in soon
[2017-04-19 12:23:28] rapidtrades : it will become mathematically impossible to activate segwit in next few days
[2017-04-19 12:23:43] KingTuna : Everyone onto the Eth bandwagon . $60 moon here we come . 20-24 April
[2017-04-19 12:23:55] rapidtrades : well practically not mathematically
[2017-04-19 12:23:56] KingTuna : will be 150 Euro by December time
[2017-04-19 12:24:12] rapidtrades : in theory it could still activate if anti-segwit goes pro-segwit
[2017-04-19 12:24:16] rapidtrades : but that wont happen
[2017-04-19 12:25:57] KingTuna : rapidtrades: you're so silly for shorting where you did lol
[2017-04-19 12:26:02] KingTuna : youre so obsessed
[2017-04-19 12:26:26] KingTuna : You could have made so much BTC like me from it
[2017-04-19 12:26:43] KingTuna : Longing closing , longing again
[2017-04-19 12:26:51] KingTuna : getting into Eth and longing and other coins
[2017-04-19 12:27:08] jwlondon98 : anyone in here trading etc?
[2017-04-19 12:27:13] KingTuna : just bag holding until it finally drops back for you
[2017-04-19 12:27:33] KingTuna : it will happen , just. It straight away, but in meantime you'll pay for it with funding lol
[2017-04-19 12:27:36] rapidtrades : yeah i trade long-term cos that's the only way to win
[2017-04-19 12:27:53] rapidtrades : ur just lucky cos vol is high right now
[2017-04-19 12:28:00] rapidtrades : few months later u blow up
[2017-04-19 12:28:26] KingTuna : People that short don't do it long term. Who you kidding mate
[2017-04-19 12:28:45] KingTuna : Otherwise you wouldn't have shorted Ltc at 4.78 haha
[2017-04-19 12:28:53] KingTuna : If it were long term
[2017-04-19 12:29:02] KingTuna : Not the sharpest tool are you
[2017-04-19 12:29:08] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 12:29:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 45.95 / 54.05 Daily : 46.48 / 53.52 Weekly : 44.98 / 55.02 Monthly : 47.63 / 52.38```
[2017-04-19 12:29:24] KingTuna : I've made 75 BTC from my 5 BTC last few weeks, whilst you been whinging about Ltc lol
[2017-04-19 12:30:23] Actualiteit : thats some serious profits m8
[2017-04-19 12:30:40] rapidtrades : totally sustainable too
[2017-04-19 12:31:02] rapidtrades : he's not gonna lose 1/2 when the bubble pops and the other half doing the same thing after vol dies
[2017-04-19 12:31:26] KingTuna : I close my longs and bank it/cash out
[2017-04-19 12:31:27] KingTuna : mostly now
[2017-04-19 12:31:38] KingTuna : coz most alts have already fired
[2017-04-19 12:31:52] jwlondon98 : bubble pop?
[2017-04-19 12:31:56] jwlondon98 : btc?
[2017-04-19 12:32:35] rapidtrades : ALL OF IT
[2017-04-19 12:32:42] rapidtrades : 2246/3136 (71.62%) blocks signaling! 6048 out of 8064 (75%) blocks are required to activate.
[2017-04-19 12:35:15] jwlondon98 : r u guys saying the crypto market is a bubble ready to pop? im confused
[2017-04-19 12:35:21] KyllingLolsson : KingTuna: wanna share some profits?
[2017-04-19 12:36:02] rapidtrades : ofc its a bubble, every coin in top 20 has increased its market cap several fold