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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2015-11-29 14:08:50] sleger : why not 0kcoin futures, the spreads, fees and liquidity are great [2015-11-29 14:09:02] sleger : here is very nice too as well [2015-11-29 14:09:42] BitMEX_Wally : :) [2015-11-29 14:09:48] Vnczlvnr : i tried to check but it seems tey always want to redirect you to their western exchanges lol [2015-11-29 14:10:05] Vnczlvnr : can't really explore the website without setting 2auth also [2015-11-29 14:10:17] sleger : Vnczlvnr: which are you talking about ? [2015-11-29 14:10:36] SnackyCoins : i do my best not to steer anyone away from my favorite exchange ;) [2015-11-29 14:10:57] Vnczlvnr : hmm i believe they pointed me to BitVC [2015-11-29 14:11:15] sleger : nah bitvc not very good liquidity wise [2015-11-29 14:11:22] Vnczlvnr : which is a nice website but illiquid [2015-11-29 14:11:52] sleger : i dont like having too many btc on only one exchange so trade on a couple [2015-11-29 14:12:03] sleger : bitfinex is good too [2015-11-29 14:12:21] SnackyCoins : well i do spot cashouts on bitfinex and keep funds there but i dont trade moves on it [2015-11-29 14:12:32] Vnczlvnr : yep, probably the only liquid exchange for USD [2015-11-29 14:12:37] SnackyCoins : its too hard to to trade moves there imo [2015-11-29 14:12:44] SnackyCoins : longer to wait to be in profit [2015-11-29 14:12:59] j8 : wow fomo on the daily. [2015-11-29 14:12:59] sleger : Vnczlvnr: 0kcoin spot usd and bitstamp are decent as well [2015-11-29 14:13:00] SnackyCoins : but they are a great bank 8) [2015-11-29 14:13:29] sleger : j8: can we check if it is liquidation ? [2015-11-29 14:13:34] Vnczlvnr : when i mean good liquidity i mean tradable on the 5 mins timeframe [2015-11-29 14:13:46] j8 : there is an api call for liquidations on the book, but not if they're filled [2015-11-29 14:13:47] Vnczlvnr : which is nearly impossible if you don't trade CNY it seems [2015-11-29 14:14:11] j8 : `https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations` [2015-11-29 14:15:01] Vnczlvnr : was there an announced on the USD? [2015-11-29 14:15:02] SnackyCoins : i would like to see a visual indication of liquidations on the orderbook [2015-11-29 14:15:13] SnackyCoins : like how you see your orders appear (love that) [2015-11-29 14:16:12] j8 : i find this useful for comparing liquidity of spot exchanges: http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/exchanges [2015-11-29 14:17:14] Vnczlvnr : nice [2015-11-29 14:17:15] j8 : spread (10 BTC) and spread (100 BTC) give you an idea of slippage [2015-11-29 14:17:26] Vnczlvnr : i use btcwisdom but this one seems better [2015-11-29 14:17:37] j8 : it's time averaged over whatever interval you select. [2015-11-29 14:18:15] j8 : so better for choosing an exchange, worse for live trading [2015-11-29 14:19:01] rapidtrades : hey, have u been trading at $4 dollars premium for the past 2 hours? [2015-11-29 14:19:06] rapidtrades : it was 2 when i left [2015-11-29 14:19:50] j8 : i got some fills at a 7 dollar premium [2015-11-29 14:19:59] SnackyCoins : bull market ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [2015-11-29 14:20:15] rapidtrades : so did I..:) @j8 [2015-11-29 14:20:20] rapidtrades : longs or shorts? [2015-11-29 14:20:36] j8 : short the daily [2015-11-29 14:20:51] rapidtrades : j8: f yeah! we're short budddies now! [2015-11-29 14:21:11] j8 : don't worry, i'm long on the weekly [2015-11-29 14:22:40] j8 : i'm not a trend denier [2015-11-29 14:22:55] rapidtrades : j8: get f*ucked [2015-11-29 14:23:03] j8 : lol [2015-11-29 14:24:21] laisee : eternal battle between day traders and value investors continues ... [2015-11-29 14:26:29] Trade_master_3000 : whats the default margin used? [2015-11-29 14:26:44] Trade_master_3000 : on xbt24h, sorry leverage [2015-11-29 14:26:48] rapidtrades : Trade_master_3000: i think 100/1 [2015-11-29 14:26:48] sleger : do you see the multiplier in the tab ? [2015-11-29 14:26:54] rapidtrades : if u have isolate [2015-11-29 14:27:31] Trade_master_3000 : there is no option other than 100x? [2015-11-29 14:27:53] rapidtrades : not on isolate [2015-11-29 14:27:53] justinlooking : Trade_master_3000: you can have position size up to 100x [2015-11-29 14:27:59] justinlooking : on 24h [2015-11-29 14:28:15] sleger : Trade_master_3000: either 100x or margin [2015-11-29 14:28:34] Trade_master_3000 : ok how can i change it? [2015-11-29 14:28:47] sleger : "it" = ? [2015-11-29 14:28:56] j8 : Trade_master_3000: if you Isolate Margin, you can add margin using the B+ button [2015-11-29 14:29:00] Trade_master_3000 : change leverage from 100 to less than 100 [2015-11-29 14:29:14] sleger : Trade_master_3000: as i said you cant, 100x or margin [2015-11-29 14:29:18] Trade_master_3000 : ok [2015-11-29 14:29:21] rapidtrades : u can't, u can only control ur size [2015-11-29 14:29:26] j8 : Trade_master_3000: don't listen to them [2015-11-29 14:29:37] j8 : you can add as much margin as you want to lower your leverage [2015-11-29 14:30:04] rapidtrades : j8: the default is 100/1 tho...that makes the stop at $2 bucks or smth [2015-11-29 14:30:21] rapidtrades : gotta have quick fingers if we're moving [2015-11-29 14:30:44] j8 : you can't change the default, but you can always add margin. [2015-11-29 14:31:29] rapidtrades : well that's what he was asking, if u can change the leverage...margin =/ leverage [2015-11-29 14:31:34] Trade_master_3000 : yeah no thanks im not that much of a gambler [2015-11-29 14:31:39] Trade_master_3000 : lol [2015-11-29 14:31:45] Trade_master_3000 : 2$ liquidation wtf [2015-11-29 14:32:13] rapidtrades : Trade_master_3000: yeah I think most use cross margin here [2015-11-29 14:38:50] rapidtrades : lol $5 premium...cos why not? [2015-11-29 14:39:11] rapidtrades : is there an equvalent daily futures contract somewhere? to compare [2015-11-29 14:39:28] rapidtrades : seems like MM are fucking us sometimes [2015-11-29 14:40:50] sleger : then put lower offers [2015-11-29 14:41:18] justinlooking : rapidtrades: will you still be bearish $30 higher than this? [2015-11-29 14:41:53] rapidtrades : justinlooking: I have ur answer RIGHT HERE *flips you off [2015-11-29 14:48:48] justinlooking : ;) [2015-11-29 14:49:37] SnackyCoins : he's got a catchphrase :) [2015-11-29 14:54:42] Swedishnut : so bulls vs 2330 fight finally moved on and up. Spiffy. *Golf claps for Bulls [2015-11-29 14:54:59] zanza : @Swedishnut did you ever talk to bitmex about investing ? [2015-11-29 14:55:29] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: @zanza I take investments as well :) [2015-11-29 15:00:11] podizzle3k : rapidtrades why would the MM do anything other than fuck us [2015-11-29 15:00:18] podizzle3k : theyre there to profit not to make us profit [2015-11-29 15:01:07] podizzle3k : if they were there for our convienience it'd be 100k orders with a 1 cent spread [2015-11-29 15:02:05] rapidtrades : well I bite the bullet and got out with $4 premium...it painful to let that go but don't wanna get caught in a short today [2015-11-29 15:02:19] rapidtrades : seems dangerous...and I got in at +$7 :D [2015-11-29 15:03:31] Swedishnut : think cyber monday will give a pump? [2015-11-29 15:03:38] SnackyCoins : no [2015-11-29 15:03:43] SnackyCoins : but it might pump anyway [2015-11-29 15:03:58] Swedishnut : gotcha :) [2015-11-29 15:57:15] sleger : why would cyber monday pump bitcoin, that's a weird idea... [2015-11-29 15:57:36] Swedishnut : cyber monies :P? [2015-11-29 15:59:39] Swedishnut : attack on 2400 incoming? [2015-11-29 16:52:31] messiaen8844 : if rapid is shorting, yes [2015-11-29 16:59:16] habibi : rapidtrades: ur daily call? [2015-11-29 17:00:24] rapidtrades : You know I noticed a pattern here... [2015-11-29 17:01:15] rapidtrades : Whenever Bitcorn rallies like $2-3 dollars everyone comes here to post ''LOL Rapid indicator was right again'....then things calm down and they leave to have sex with their mothers [2015-11-29 17:03:40] habibi : u talking again about how u calling <350$ everyday so u can go sleep and rest? [2015-11-29 17:03:49] habibi : lvl>350$ [2015-11-29 17:03:53] habibi : so u can go sleep? [2015-11-29 17:05:52] rapidtrades : right...but I was short from 357...and I got several profitable scalps ysterday, plus one today [2015-11-29 17:06:21] rapidtrades : I actually took one very quick long scalp as well [2015-11-29 17:08:01] rapidtrades : that was today not yesterday [2015-11-29 17:10:13] habibi : i am not talking about ur profitables scalps:) just about ur calls :) [2015-11-29 17:11:23] rapidtrades : meh calls are a dime as dozen ...I also called bullshit on that rally to $370 then we crashed $30 dollars [2015-11-29 17:11:40] rapidtrades : but I had no position on...so who cares [2015-11-29 17:12:04] rapidtrades : price looks bullish, that's my call for today [2015-11-29 17:15:27] messiaen8844 : ETH starting to look for lng term [2015-11-29 17:16:09] messiaen8844 : bought some to HODL, will buy way more if it more early inverstors are shaken off by further declines [2015-11-29 17:17:27] rapidtrades : lool everyone ignored my bullish call like nothing was said...if I said shor u'd all be like ''BULLS ON $400 Rapi'' [2015-11-29 17:17:31] rapidtrades : *d [2015-11-29 17:18:16] messiaen8844 : it could be a double top [2015-11-29 17:18:17] justinlooking : rapidtrades: i'm starting to think you've been long this whole time and ur just messing with us... [2015-11-29 17:18:31] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: probably because youre right this time ;) [2015-11-29 17:18:43] rapidtrades : nope, I've been mostly short but today I'm a bit scared tbh [2015-11-29 17:20:08] rapidtrades : pa looks shitty for shorting...I'll prolly still short if I get good premium plus some topping pattern [2015-11-29 17:20:44] rapidtrades : took a $3 dollar short earlier..so still going strong :) [2015-11-29 17:22:41] wurstgelee : i am not really comfortable with $5 premium, small long position anyways :/ [2015-11-29 17:24:02] rapidtrades : yeah things look bullish but I hate to pay $5 over market, so rly don't see myself longing this today [2015-11-29 17:27:09] j8 : buy the weekly, still 5 days to go [2015-11-29 17:28:05] sleger : just pay the small 5$ premium, it's worth it [2015-11-29 17:28:42] sleger : and if the price continues to go up, in a few hours it will be even more than 5 so you'll make even more, if you are right [2015-11-29 17:29:30] Swedishnut : indeed I think 375 soon [2015-11-29 17:30:09] wurstgelee : i did long despite the premium, just not as much i am used too [2015-11-29 17:47:56] cataquil : support hello [2015-11-29 17:48:32] sleger : omg again... [2015-11-29 17:49:05] sleger : still haven't figured out how this website works ? [2015-11-29 17:49:26] BitMEX_Wally : cataquil: Helo [2015-11-29 17:49:51] cataquil : hello wally, I made a withdrawal, I received an email to confirm [2015-11-29 17:50:18] cataquil : it says all withdrawals are confirmed at 1 UTC [2015-11-29 17:50:37] BitMEX_Wally : You have confirmed the withdrawal, it will be processed at 13:00 UTC [2015-11-29 17:50:42] BitMEX_Wally : That is in 19 hours from now [2015-11-29 17:52:56] sleger : cataquil: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=utc+time [2015-11-29 17:54:01] cataquil : oh thanks sledger thats really nifty...lol, I just happen to live in UTC so its not like I don't know the time [2015-11-29 17:54:16] sleger : so then what was the issue ? [2015-11-29 17:54:38] justinlooking : sleger are you standing in for floopfloop? :P [2015-11-29 17:55:14] cataquil : I have 19 hours to wait for my bitcoin...I appreciate the security and all but right now I need it to make purchases. So will have to tell the vendor to wait. [2015-11-29 17:55:24] sleger : not at all, but cataquil has been particularly agressive and showing lack of respect against admins here, threatening to write an article etc... [2015-11-29 17:55:35] cataquil : are u an admin? [2015-11-29 17:55:47] justinlooking : ah k, sry ;) [2015-11-29 17:55:52] messiaen8844 : you knew he rules when you signed for it, n? [2015-11-29 17:55:56] BitMEX_Wally : cataquil: Admins have a name with `BitMEX_` at the beginning [2015-11-29 18:18:58] cataquil : thanks wally [2015-11-29 18:43:20] rapidtrades : hey anyone trading at finex? need clarification [2015-11-29 19:08:10] stf28 : rapidtrades: what about? [2015-11-29 19:43:06] podizzle3k : whether anyone is trading at finex [2015-11-29 20:20:08] 24hourz : Is it down or something? [2015-11-29 20:21:25] podizzle3k : its fine [2015-11-29 20:28:33] habibi : 7d almost no premium [2015-11-29 20:28:35] habibi : sweet [2015-11-29 20:28:41] podizzle3k : julian wu was wrong :) [2015-11-29 20:30:00] wurstgelee : yep [2015-11-29 20:30:34] wurstgelee : not surprised tho, didnt agree with today's ta [2015-11-29 20:30:36] sleger : almost "no premium" = 2% lol [2015-11-29 20:31:08] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah wtf....I was hoping for some cheap coinz [2015-11-29 20:31:11] habibi : meant 372 to 370 on 24h [2015-11-29 20:31:15] rapidtrades : i see $9 [2015-11-29 20:31:25] habibi : so it was basically no premium compared with 24h at that point [2015-11-29 20:31:31] rapidtrades : habibi: wtf [2015-11-29 20:31:45] rapidtrades : habibi: get aids [2015-11-29 20:31:49] sleger : habibi: then be precise when you try to say something [2015-11-29 20:31:54] justinlooking : habibi think you may have sticky chart or summat [2015-11-29 20:32:34] rapidtrades : yeah @habibi I was doing smth and ur comment panicked me, had to sit down and focus [2015-11-29 20:33:59] habibi : good for u my dead rapid friend [2015-11-29 20:34:52] rapidtrades : well...glad I didn't roll my short today lol [2015-11-29 20:36:18] rapidtrades : did we break the high? [2015-11-29 20:47:05] 24hourz : i think so [2015-11-29 20:52:02] rapidtrades : yeah but only here and nowhere else [2015-11-29 20:54:12] JACOBcze : rapidtrades are u shorting? [2015-11-29 21:04:11] sleger : JACOBcze: which part of "15:34 - rapidtrades: well...glad I didn't roll my short today lol" do you not understand ? [2015-11-29 21:04:35] rapidtrades : sleger: ha...now I know ur timezone b1tch [2015-11-29 21:04:54] wurstgelee : murica [2015-11-29 21:04:55] wurstgelee : ;) [2015-11-29 21:05:21] sleger : no you only know which timezone the computer I used to send this from is located in [2015-11-29 21:05:28] wurstgelee : oO [2015-11-29 21:05:37] rapidtrades : sleger: say no more, say no more [2015-11-29 21:06:14] sleger : no more, no more. [2015-11-29 21:09:18] rapidtrades : I wonder if we'll hit $10 premium today...that would be hard to pass up [2015-11-29 21:09:50] Swedishnut : feels like a desire to settle at 375 [2015-11-29 21:10:36] rapidtrades : okcoin's wely is at $373.....feels like ppl here are again getting ahead of themselves [2015-11-29 21:10:45] rapidtrades : weeklly futures [2015-11-29 21:11:46] Swedishnut : yeah could be. Also I think there is generally more small players entering today than last month which is giving extra hopium [2015-11-29 21:12:09] rapidtrades : our weekly is at $372... [2015-11-29 21:12:33] rapidtrades : so u only get $2 bucks for extra 5 days...doesn't seem right but what do i know :) [2015-11-29 21:15:01] Swedishnut : well in a world of bitcoin why do you need the extra 2$ ? :P j/k [2015-11-29 21:17:17] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: how do u know that there are more small players [2015-11-29 21:32:07] sleger : session volume shows 62k contracts for 24H for me, that isnt right [2015-11-29 21:43:17] jung1 : up we go? [2015-11-29 21:43:22] jung1 : or 355 [2015-11-29 21:51:03] wurstgelee : no up [2015-11-29 21:51:04] wurstgelee : =) [2015-11-29 21:51:23] jung1 : damn [2015-11-29 21:51:29] jung1 : good that I went long [2015-11-29 21:52:08] jung1 : whaleclub charts does not works? [2015-11-29 21:57:41] jung1 : any alternatives for whaleclub 4x4 charts? [2015-11-29 21:57:44] jung1 : except hypron [2015-11-29 21:58:17] AudibleScience : jung1: https://hypron.net/bitcoinwisdom/ [2015-11-29 21:58:18] sleger : 16 charts in one page ? [2015-11-29 21:58:47] jung1 : 2x2 [2015-11-29 21:58:59] sleger : better... [2015-11-29 22:00:06] habibi : liq? [2015-11-29 22:00:33] jung1 : old.whaleclub.co too bad its shut down [2015-11-29 22:01:51] habibi : looks like two liqs on 24 and 7d from same guy probally [2015-11-29 22:01:54] habibi : or just bids [2015-11-29 22:02:14] j8 : not liquidations [2015-11-29 22:13:49] jung1 : whoop whoop [2015-11-29 22:15:02] clipperhawk : f-ing bitmex [2015-11-29 22:15:29] jung1 : ? [2015-11-29 22:17:10] habibi : cli:(? [2015-11-29 22:22:19] jung1 : quite nice ride [2015-11-29 22:22:33] jung1 : that moves 355-365 was funny [2015-11-29 22:22:40] jung1 : in past days [2015-11-29 22:27:00] jung1 : nice [2015-11-29 22:28:30] justinlooking : fuck [2015-11-29 22:28:55] justinlooking : is that Z15 id a liquidation? [2015-11-29 22:31:08] j8 : yes it is! [2015-11-29 22:31:29] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations [2015-11-29 22:31:42] justinlooking : ty j8 [2015-11-29 22:31:48] j8 : np [2015-11-29 22:33:06] j8 : not keen on selling into that. [2015-11-29 22:34:43] jung1 : theres still some place for rise [2015-11-29 22:34:51] justinlooking : orly? [2015-11-29 22:34:58] justinlooking : running out of nudges [2015-11-29 22:35:06] habibi : if we break 2400 will be good [2015-11-29 22:35:25] wurstgelee : mh..that went fast...too fast [2015-11-29 22:35:28] habibi : there was a liq on 7d at 385.15? [2015-11-29 22:35:44] habibi : or someone fat fingered [2015-11-29 22:35:54] wurstgelee : that last leg was with no volume [2015-11-29 22:35:56] wurstgelee : mhmhmhmh [2015-11-29 22:36:17] justinlooking : okc disagrees :/ [2015-11-29 22:36:38] habibi : http://scr.hu/1xcl/xtcsk i think last leg had the biggest vol on chinese [2015-11-29 22:36:48] habibi : compared to previous [2015-11-29 22:37:25] jung1 : next floor could be arobund 368-70 [2015-11-29 22:37:49] justinlooking : open interest 320k is quite high isn't it? [2015-11-29 22:37:52] wurstgelee : needs a few hours to rest imo [2015-11-29 22:38:08] wurstgelee : too much resistance, not enough support [2015-11-29 22:39:44] wurstgelee : yep :| [2015-11-29 22:44:15] wurstgelee : mh. or not oPO [2015-11-29 22:44:17] wurstgelee : oO [2015-11-29 22:48:50] justinlooking : so um... fuck [2015-11-29 22:49:15] wurstgelee : exactly. sold way too early :| [2015-11-29 22:49:41] justinlooking : just keep selling lol [2015-11-29 22:50:05] wurstgelee : out of longs :| [2015-11-29 22:50:09] wurstgelee : no way im shorting this [2015-11-29 22:50:22] justinlooking : fortune favors the brave! #yolo [2015-11-29 22:50:33] wurstgelee : yes, but not the idiots [2015-11-29 22:50:43] wurstgelee : well, sometimes... [2015-11-29 22:51:06] wurstgelee : 2398.... [2015-11-29 22:51:45] jung1 : yeah a bit risky to short [2015-11-29 23:03:27] irbbqu : nice fat finbger lol [2015-11-29 23:03:31] justinlooking : ouch [2015-11-29 23:03:49] wurstgelee : mh? [2015-11-29 23:03:52] wurstgelee : am i blind? [2015-11-29 23:04:06] justinlooking : not fat fingers by looks of it [2015-11-29 23:04:21] wurstgelee : that short? [2015-11-29 23:04:33] wurstgelee : seems intentional to me [2015-11-29 23:06:33] jung1 : 360? [2015-11-29 23:06:52] justinlooking : fark, we'll be hitting those DPE orders in Z in a min [2015-11-29 23:06:53] wurstgelee : dont think so [2015-11-29 23:07:38] messiaen8844 : cool [2015-11-29 23:07:49] messiaen8844 : just arrived home, long is doing great [2015-11-29 23:08:04] wurstgelee : was doing even greater a few mins ago ;) [2015-11-29 23:08:07] jung1 : how many%? [2015-11-29 23:08:22] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: was 381+ [2015-11-29 23:08:43] jung1 : gratz [2015-11-29 23:08:48] messiaen8844 : 110%, but with 15x leverage [2015-11-29 23:09:40] Swedishnut : well 375 is here but will it hold the night? [2015-11-29 23:10:12] messiaen8844 : guess so [2015-11-29 23:10:25] messiaen8844 : targets are higher [2015-11-29 23:11:10] jung1 : depend if we will break 2400 [2015-11-29 23:13:07] wurstgelee : yep [2015-11-29 23:13:19] Swedishnut : looks like it [2015-11-29 23:13:34] messiaen8844 : 380/390 will be tough to be break today, but I think we'll get there easily [2015-11-29 23:14:02] habibi : yep, and rapidindicator says we going up so its not looking that good [2015-11-29 23:14:03] wurstgelee : maybe in an hour or something, new week in china [2015-11-29 23:14:11] wurstgelee : but no clue... [2015-11-29 23:14:14] messiaen8844 : then, great short for the retrace [2015-11-29 23:14:55] wurstgelee : 2380 support is getting stronger tho, resistance weaker [2015-11-29 23:15:04] messiaen8844 : I hope rapid got in the long [2015-11-29 23:15:05] messiaen8844 : I hope rapid got in the long [2015-11-29 23:15:09] Swedishnut : Idk what it is but I've had a good feeling all day anytime I've been able to come and check on stuff and things have been moving to the + all day [2015-11-29 23:17:37] messiaen8844 : cool, recovered all my losses on the first week here and +2 BTC from that. [2015-11-29 23:18:30] justinlooking : skillz [2015-11-29 23:18:30] justinlooking : skillz [2015-11-29 23:19:22] wurstgelee : nice sell order @ xbt24h :) [2015-11-29 23:19:47] messiaen8844 : I'm playing with 10% of my HODL position here, awesome to have gains on fiat AND btc [2015-11-29 23:20:14] Swedishnut : right it is like double fisting happiness [2015-11-29 23:20:26] messiaen8844 : that what attracted me to BTC futures [2015-11-29 23:20:39] messiaen8844 : more upside when bullish than normal futures [2015-11-29 23:20:42] Swedishnut : also sell some clams if you have any today [2015-11-29 23:23:55] rapidtrades : lol daily interest on okc 0.1%...get fuckeed [2015-11-29 23:24:08] rapidtrades : f^ucke [2015-11-29 23:24:13] rapidtrades : *d [2015-11-29 23:25:09] sleger : you know, maybe there was a reason this website won't let you write bad words... get a hint [2015-11-29 23:25:47] jung1 : messiaen8844: how long you trade fiat futures? [2015-11-29 23:27:01] messiaen8844 : started earlier this year trading stock index, corn and meat, and some financial contract [2015-11-29 23:27:19] messiaen8844 : results have been mixed, burn a lot of money learning [2015-11-29 23:28:12] messiaen8844 : made some huge overleveraged wins just to lose all of it the next days... leverage requires a LOT of control [2015-11-29 23:28:38] rapidtrades : no shit.. [2015-11-29 23:29:55] messiaen8844 : lesson for me was to win little by little, steadily, with just a few minor losses along the way. Good rule is to never risk more than 10% of your margin in one trade [2015-11-29 23:30:17] wurstgelee : next try for 2400 [2015-11-29 23:30:41] rapidtrades : hell why not 1 million [2015-11-29 23:30:42] messiaen8844 : make a list of your trades, including risk-reward, target, comments, make capital curve, all those things keep you controlled. Sometimes it's more emotional control than pure skillz [2015-11-29 23:30:58] rapidtrades : fake internet tokens have to be worth AT LEAST that much [2015-11-29 23:31:14] messiaen8844 : lol, now a buttcoin believer, are you? [2015-11-29 23:31:18] messiaen8844 : *not [2015-11-29 23:31:42] SnackyCoins : lol fake [2015-11-29 23:34:59] justinlooking : will be elated if break 2400, but but a bit disappointed the rapidicator doesn't work anymore [2015-11-29 23:36:32] messiaen8844 : I think we'll break 2400 still today,but reach some hard resistance soon [2015-11-29 23:37:19] Swedishnut : waiting for the green red doji bars [2015-11-29 23:37:41] jung1 : messiaen8844: you have any main strategy, favourite indicators or just vlome and orderbooks from other exchanges? [2015-11-29 23:37:42] justinlooking : what interval you watching Swedishnut? [2015-11-29 23:38:33] messiaen8844 : nothing fancy, candle analysis, fibos, volumes, RSI, bands and MACD [2015-11-29 23:38:35] Swedishnut : I like Bitcoinwisdom and the bands [2015-11-29 23:39:41] Swedishnut : hashnest and their cost for hash cost spread [2015-11-29 23:41:39] jung1 : messiaen8844: on 1m? [2015-11-29 23:41:58] Swedishnut : also holiday hype, consumer spending, adoption and investment capitol, I am in lots of e-mail promo lists [2015-11-29 23:42:05] jung1 : I have to change my strategy. I spend too much time on charts and its not good [2015-11-29 23:42:41] rapidtrades : lol $4 spread now [2015-11-29 23:42:51] rapidtrades : sorry premium, don't freak out [2015-11-29 23:42:54] Swedishnut : Thus e-mail checking to keep the pulse on when and how people in btc spend their fiat as they invest in btc based companies for future blah blah [2015-11-29 23:43:24] jung1 : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-26/after-arresting-hundreds-stock-traders-china-cracks-down-malicious-metals-sellers-ne [2015-11-29 23:45:40] Swedishnut : wow maybe that is why btc is spiking people of China seeking something else to store value [2015-11-29 23:46:01] messiaen8844 : 1 min? no, I am usually on 5 and 15 min, but reading higher time frames for targets, fibo points, etc [2015-11-29 23:46:41] messiaen8844 : not only China, BTC is really useful for many countries [2015-11-29 23:46:53] messiaen8844 : and most people haven't realized it yet [2015-11-29 23:47:16] jung1 : its usefull [2015-11-29 23:47:33] jung1 : but china decide about price of it [2015-11-29 23:47:57] habibi : just look at china stocks today [2015-11-29 23:48:07] jung1 : bitcoin will be new standard in banking in few years [2015-11-29 23:49:13] messiaen8844 : not standard because the banks will just make their own global coin [2015-11-29 23:49:53] messiaen8844 : but BTC will be significant [2015-11-29 23:50:11] Swedishnut : it will be the model :) [2015-11-29 23:50:50] messiaen8844 : 2400 soon to be destroyed I [2015-11-29 23:50:56] rapidtrades : imagine if one day satoshi comes back....DUMPS and is like ''IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO'' [2015-11-29 23:51:11] rapidtrades : ''IT WAS JUST A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT'' [2015-11-29 23:51:17] Swedishnut : best paying prank ever :P [2015-11-29 23:51:31] messiaen8844 : he probably has more coins in other wallets [2015-11-29 23:51:33] rapidtrades : ...but he'll dump on yo head, yo [2015-11-29 23:55:03] jung1 : but we have couple of years to became milionaires before it [2015-11-29 23:55:18] irbbqu : lol [2015-11-29 23:55:21] cataquil : probably the federal reserve was a social experience as well [2015-11-29 23:55:30] rapidtrades : jung1: no he comes tommorow , on cyber Munday [2015-11-29 23:55:38] rapidtrades : *Moonday [2015-11-30 00:01:50] justinlooking : nn all [2015-11-30 00:03:49] Swedishnut : night good sir [2015-11-30 00:17:37] messiaen8844 : there's your 375 swedish [2015-11-30 00:19:24] Swedishnut : :P yeah now to see if people perceive 375 as cheap and like getting in earler before 1k by 2016 maybe earlier [2015-11-30 00:21:03] messiaen8844 : there will be a lot of down and up before that :) [2015-11-30 00:21:25] rapidtrades : who cares...just buy the fcuking dip [2015-11-30 00:21:30] rapidtrades : /s [2015-11-30 00:22:00] rapidtrades : is anyone bearish here? [2015-11-30 00:22:01] Swedishnut : yes could be indeed. Cyber Monday, China crack down on futures trader, and 10% less in store spending is helping too [2015-11-30 00:22:53] rapidtrades : doesn't the fact that everyone's bullish worry u [2015-11-30 00:24:00] Swedishnut : a bit but not really. We are early adopters [2015-11-30 00:24:13] messiaen8844 : no, when we hit the right target we will gown down, fast and furiously [2015-11-30 00:24:15] rapidtrades : we are not early adopters sir... [2015-11-30 00:24:29] rapidtrades : it's 6 years now and we're trading bitcoin future [2015-11-30 00:24:33] rapidtrades : *s [2015-11-30 00:24:45] Swedishnut : sure are when you think companies are not vetted really until 10 [2015-11-30 00:38:12] podizzle3k : just wait until china devalues cny tomorrow [2015-11-30 00:38:19] podizzle3k : then the fireworks start [2015-11-30 00:39:53] podizzle3k : wuahhaha [2015-11-30 00:41:17] messiaen8844 : here we go [2015-11-30 00:45:31] podizzle3k : damn [2015-11-30 00:46:17] rapidtrades : damn indeed [2015-11-30 00:46:21] wurstgelee : yep [2015-11-30 00:46:23] wurstgelee : damn [2015-11-30 00:46:34] messiaen8844 : rapid: didn't I told you two days ago to long in the 7D ;D [2015-11-30 00:46:35] messiaen8844 : ? [2015-11-30 00:47:11] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: I told u 2 days ago to go f*uck yourself [2015-11-30 00:47:27] messiaen8844 : yes, I like to masturbate [2015-11-30 00:47:41] messiaen8844 : fucking myself is fun [2015-11-30 00:48:01] JACOBcze : rapidtrades [2015-11-30 00:48:06] JACOBcze : u realize u can just call top every 5$ [2015-11-30 00:48:09] JACOBcze : while longing it [2015-11-30 00:48:11] JACOBcze : and make a fortune [2015-11-30 00:48:15] JACOBcze : u have the power [2015-11-30 00:48:16] JACOBcze : use it [2015-11-30 00:48:35] podizzle3k : youre about to get the bird [2015-11-30 00:48:47] ayy lmao : lol [2015-11-30 00:48:52] wurstgelee : 2420 smashed [2015-11-30 00:49:30] sleger : rapidstuff doesnt realize, he just trolls [2015-11-30 00:50:08] wurstgelee : also good support @ 2400 [2015-11-30 00:51:08] podizzle3k : this doesnt seem like the kind of pump that fizzles out and dumps. seems more like the kind that goes wayyyy to high first [2015-11-30 00:51:33] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: saving that quote for late [2015-11-30 00:51:38] rapidtrades : *r [2015-11-30 00:51:44] rapidtrades : this chat is wonky [2015-11-30 00:51:55] podizzle3k : sorry if that upset you [2015-11-30 00:52:59] podizzle3k : okcoin contract holders have a long way to go [2015-11-30 00:53:39] Swedishnut : so I was thinking on my drive. What if there was a "Satoshi Scratch'r" where you could print on either side and reveal a instantly redeemable amount of BTC [2015-11-30 00:56:41] podizzle3k : they have online versions of it not sure about physical scratch offs [2015-11-30 00:58:22] wurstgelee : like Prypto cards? [2015-11-30 00:58:30] podizzle3k : yeah but lottery ones [2015-11-30 00:58:36] wurstgelee : ah k [2015-11-30 00:58:52] wurstgelee : 2420. more up [2015-11-30 01:00:27] wurstgelee : MOAR [2015-11-30 01:00:41] messiaen8844 : yes, 2470 [2015-11-30 01:01:57] messiaen8844 : cool situation when new ups just give new buy signs on higher time frames and it keeps going and going [2015-11-30 01:02:35] messiaen8844 : that's when you must forget usual overbought conditions, RSI can stay high for quite a while [2015-11-30 01:02:43] Swedishnut : BTC beast is on fire NOM NOM [2015-11-30 01:03:14] zanza : next stop moon botys [2015-11-30 01:03:50] messiaen8844 : same for bollinger bands, when it just WALKS THE BANDS, quite explosive [2015-11-30 01:04:24] rapidtrades : it's explosive until it shits the bed [2015-11-30 01:05:01] messiaen8844 : not the kind of the movmeent you want to scalp [2015-11-30 01:05:11] messiaen8844 : because you miss the explosive upside [2015-11-30 01:05:23] messiaen8844 : and get rekt easily because of those movements [2015-11-30 01:06:32] podizzle3k : yes explosive movements and this trading platform is like walking a tightrope during a hurricane [2015-11-30 01:06:39] podizzle3k : and theres a pile of money on the other sid [2015-11-30 01:06:45] podizzle3k : ifyou can just make it [2015-11-30 01:07:13] podizzle3k : you can try to run for it or go slow both ways could work [2015-11-30 01:07:23] messiaen8844 : not really, just don't overleverage and ride the correct movements [2015-11-30 01:07:53] podizzle3k : even then you have that isolation button and check mark of doom [2015-11-30 01:07:54] messiaen8844 : leave enough room for fibo corrections [2015-11-30 01:08:06] podizzle3k : which reminds me i want to set everything to confirm like it is on mobile [2015-11-30 01:08:08] rapidtrades : everyone's so wise when things go up with 0 retracement [2015-11-30 01:08:20] rapidtrades : what could posibly go wrong here... [2015-11-30 01:08:22] Swedishnut : yeah don't let kids click those check marks :P [2015-11-30 01:08:23] podizzle3k : rapidtrades haha [2015-11-30 01:08:33] podizzle3k : rapidtrades dont you see its going to go up forev [2015-11-30 01:08:48] wurstgelee : btc lost gravity [2015-11-30 01:08:49] Swedishnut : until the printers stop yes [2015-11-30 01:09:09] podizzle3k : the period of bitcoin going down is over. there will be no correction, no retracement, no consolidation [2015-11-30 01:09:18] babybaby : go LONG [2015-11-30 01:09:21] podizzle3k : lol [2015-11-30 01:09:23] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: sounds ligit [2015-11-30 01:09:28] podizzle3k : babybaby knows [2015-11-30 01:10:01] Swedishnut : Now is the time this is the moment :P [2015-11-30 01:10:07] podizzle3k : thats why im all in 100x long isolated no margin added [2015-11-30 01:10:08] podizzle3k : no risk [2015-11-30 01:10:52] podizzle3k : bbl [2015-11-30 01:11:03] rapidtrades : bbl? loooool [2015-11-30 01:11:07] wurstgelee : haha, same [2015-11-30 01:11:14] wurstgelee : good night everyone [2015-11-30 01:11:44] cataquil : short 380 out 382.10...providing liquidity, not emotionally attached [2015-11-30 01:12:42] podizzle3k : cold blooded [2015-11-30 01:13:20] rapidtrades : cataquil: I almost shorted that...but this market is scary atm [2015-11-30 01:13:24] rapidtrades : needs to break first [2015-11-30 01:13:29] rapidtrades : die b1tch die [2015-11-30 01:13:41] cataquil : yeah its always the chinese [2015-11-30 01:14:05] cataquil : now its 1am in london and I gotta crash or else I will be fucked for work [2015-11-30 01:14:06] rapidtrades : meh don't think so, there's not much of a premium [2015-11-30 01:14:16] rapidtrades : wtf... [2015-11-30 01:14:35] cataquil : lol mistype...sleep deprived not caressed lol [2015-11-30 01:14:55] wurstgelee : 2:14 am here :/ [2015-11-30 01:15:02] messiaen8844 : 23 pm here [2015-11-30 01:15:31] messiaen8844 : I don't work tomorrow morning ;), let's see if the chinese brings more fun in the next hours [2015-11-30 01:15:57] wurstgelee : time to hit the bed [2015-11-30 01:16:00] wurstgelee : gnight again [2015-11-30 01:16:08] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: gn [2015-11-30 01:17:32] cataquil : 34000 seller [2015-11-30 01:19:06] cataquil : now titght spreads [2015-11-30 01:19:25] cataquil : 0.03 thats like the tightest I have seen [2015-11-30 01:19:42] rapidtrades : ...aaaaaand its gone [2015-11-30 01:19:47] cataquil : fukin 0.7 before...its alot [2015-11-30 01:19:52] cataquil : yeah they took it off [2015-11-30 01:20:03] cataquil : interesting to watch price here compared to spot [2015-11-30 01:20:28] sleger : "they" ? how many people do you think it takes to put a 34000 order ? [2015-11-30 01:21:12] cataquil : 1 they can be singular as well as plural [2015-11-30 01:22:02] cataquil : ah the bully is back [2015-11-30 01:22:33] sleger : can't leave a victime alone, right ;) [2015-11-30 01:23:39] sleger : *victim [2015-11-30 01:25:35] cataquil : well if you want to nitpick my grammer, they more like a crime [2015-11-30 01:26:32] rapidtrades : we're overdue for a major dumpage [2015-11-30 01:26:47] rapidtrades : elephant size [2015-11-30 01:27:23] rapidtrades : maybe now maybe at $400 but I feel its coming [2015-11-30 01:27:58] messiaen8844 : BUY BUY BUY BUY [2015-11-30 01:28:20] rapidtrades : not short yet :) [2015-11-30 01:28:33] messiaen8844 : you said yet and we are up 5 CNY in few seconds [2015-11-30 01:28:45] messiaen8844 : *said it [2015-11-30 01:29:36] messiaen8844 : look at daily and weekly, still more upside to this [2015-11-30 01:29:44] rapidtrades : I may not short at all today...things still look scary [2015-11-30 01:31:31] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: daily looks a bit better, but weekly is awful tbh [2015-11-30 01:31:58] messiaen8844 : tbh? [2015-11-30 01:32:04] rapidtrades : to be honest [2015-11-30 01:34:51] rapidtrades : he pullled the wall...lil bitch [2015-11-30 02:18:55] messiaen8844 : lol, just after I sell 50% of my 7D [2015-11-30 02:21:49] rapidtrades : well u stil have 50% left :) [2015-11-30 02:26:06] messiaen8844 : big wall on finex @ 380, the final frontier ;) [2015-11-30 02:26:26] messiaen8844 : bearREKT point [2015-11-30 02:27:22] rapidtrades : f*uck finex [2015-11-30 02:31:25] sleger : rapidtrades: own your actions [2015-11-30 02:31:37] sleger : while I own your money $$$ [2015-11-30 02:32:04] sleger : taking profitsssssssss here [2015-11-30 02:33:13] laisee : good profits last 24 hrs [2015-11-30 02:33:28] messiaen8844 : my alarms keep ringing man [2015-11-30 02:34:48] laisee : yep. 400 approachs .. [2015-11-30 02:36:09] rapidtrades : laisee: that's just ur dad with a dildo [2015-11-30 02:36:33] laisee : 1.7885 XBT (167.98%) [2015-11-30 02:37:49] messiaen8844 : daily or 7D? [2015-11-30 02:38:15] laisee : nah [2015-11-30 02:38:29] laisee : yah [2015-11-30 02:39:20] laisee : i foregot [2015-11-30 02:40:18] messiaen8844 : foreGOX? [2015-11-30 02:41:04] laisee : don't want any mini-whales 2 short my contract [2015-11-30 02:41:40] messiaen8844 : yay 3.6 BTC withhold profit. Best day ever [2015-11-30 02:45:02] rapidtrades : is the order value an accurate representation of how much BTC I'm long/short