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[2017-04-19 05:48:14] zanza : lets try to have a more understanding attitude to see other point of view
[2017-04-19 05:48:17] chocolicious : you just don't understand decentralization
[2017-04-19 05:48:22] zanza : not an argument
[2017-04-19 05:48:27] chocolicious : and youdon't understand consensus
[2017-04-19 05:48:48] chocolicious : and you don't know how bitcoin works and how long it takes to transfer and validate blocks
[2017-04-19 05:48:51] podizzle3k : shouting uasf is like if everyone who thought there should be bigger blocks just called for 51% attack
[2017-04-19 05:49:01] chocolicious : how the chinese firewall slows propagation
[2017-04-19 05:49:11] chocolicious : how essential it is that you be able to run a node on TOR
[2017-04-19 05:49:27] chocolicious : and how unnecessary it is to hardfork to bigger blocks right now
[2017-04-19 05:49:39] chocolicious : you just don't know anything
[2017-04-19 05:49:53] chocolicious : you don't know how bitcoin works and why it's valuable
[2017-04-19 05:50:01] zanza : SegWit gigves you 1.9MB block at the size of 4MB block
[2017-04-19 05:50:05] podizzle3k : you know how you can tell when one side of a debate is losing. when they start hurling attacks
[2017-04-19 05:51:02] podizzle3k : all i see lately is memes about jihan and roger ver
[2017-04-19 05:51:05] podizzle3k : its sad
[2017-04-19 05:51:21] zanza : yeah, BU people troll GMax pretty hard too
[2017-04-19 05:51:26] zanza : i dislike it
[2017-04-19 05:51:27] podizzle3k : do they? where
[2017-04-19 05:51:29] chocolicious : BU is dead
[2017-04-19 05:51:33] chocolicious : they were caught in their lie
[2017-04-19 05:51:36] zanza : /r/btc
[2017-04-19 05:51:55] chocolicious : it's funny that you are parroting their arguments when they were just doing it to maintain a mining advantage that results in empty blocks
[2017-04-19 05:51:55] zanza : ASICBOOST?
[2017-04-19 05:52:18] zanza : remember when Jihan signed Hong Kong agreement , agreed to SegWit + blocksize
[2017-04-19 05:52:24] chocolicious : we don't have enough transaction capacity, I need more fees in my empty blocks
[2017-04-19 05:52:35] podizzle3k : my question is if segwit is so much better than big blocks then why dont the segwit devs just allow asicboost within it so that jihan immediately signals segwit
[2017-04-19 05:52:41] podizzle3k : answer: because he wont even if they did
[2017-04-19 05:52:42] chocolicious : he agreed to a blocksize increase based on segwit
[2017-04-19 05:52:54] chocolicious : he may not know what he agreed to but that is what was agreed to
[2017-04-19 05:52:59] l3f : podizzle3k: if segwit is so much better why do they need bigger blocks?
[2017-04-19 05:53:08] podizzle3k : because its not
[2017-04-19 05:53:13] chocolicious : an increase based on the segwit changes, we can't give an increase without segwit
[2017-04-19 05:53:17] podizzle3k : its a disaster as my man wang chun put it
[2017-04-19 05:53:19] l3f : podizzle3k: lol you're a retarded BU cancer
[2017-04-19 05:53:24] chocolicious : you're meme'd, go learn something
[2017-04-19 05:53:32] l3f : you have zero techicial reasons to oppose segwit
[2017-04-19 05:53:33] zanza : https://medium.com/@bitcoinroundtable/bitcoin-roundtable-consensus-266d475a61ff
[2017-04-19 05:53:35] podizzle3k : like i said: personal attacks = you lose
[2017-04-19 05:53:39] podizzle3k : sorry
[2017-04-19 05:53:51] podizzle3k : its one of the steps of grief i think
[2017-04-19 05:53:53] podizzle3k : youll get over it
[2017-04-19 05:54:17] zanza : Jihan agreed to SegWit + 2MB HF
[2017-04-19 05:54:26] l3f : podizzle3k: nice try le meme man
[2017-04-19 05:54:43] podizzle3k : uasf! uasf!
[2017-04-19 05:54:45] podizzle3k : wuahahha
[2017-04-19 05:54:46] l3f : You stated zero technical reasons
[2017-04-19 05:54:47] PrinceSalmon : But without personal attacks most are just total idiots who don't believe in TA
[2017-04-19 05:54:50] chocolicious : it's funny that you are so meme'd that even after their true intentions emerge you still believe their memes
[2017-04-19 05:54:54] l3f : UASF will end BU cancer one for all
[2017-04-19 05:54:56] podizzle3k : are you guys wearing your #uasf hats
[2017-04-19 05:55:05] podizzle3k : i hope so
[2017-04-19 05:55:28] l3f : podizzle3k: enjoy your code base that constantly crashes and zero nodes idiot
[2017-04-19 05:55:36] zanza : most people forget Hong Kong agreement
[2017-04-19 05:55:37] l3f : lmao at your life
[2017-04-19 05:55:41] chocolicious : your closed source codebase
[2017-04-19 05:55:45] chocolicious : rofl
[2017-04-19 05:55:51] podizzle3k : i will enjoy it thanks
[2017-04-19 05:55:53] zanza : l3f: when was last crash?
[2017-04-19 05:55:59] podizzle3k : and you will too
[2017-04-19 05:56:02] chocolicious : muh closed source hardfork that is what satoshi wanted
[2017-04-19 05:56:04] zanza : chocolicious: closed source for 2 hours while it patched
[2017-04-19 05:56:13] zanza : a security exploit
[2017-04-19 05:56:24] l3f : podizzle3k: do Jihan pay you or do you do it for free?
[2017-04-19 05:56:32] l3f : I feel sorry if you do it for free
[2017-04-19 05:56:32] zanza : i use my brain for free
[2017-04-19 05:56:51] podizzle3k : i3f did you vote for hilary too?
[2017-04-19 05:57:01] podizzle3k : i think she supported uasf
[2017-04-19 05:57:06] PrinceSalmon : I noticed in the logs a bunch of people of the people
[2017-04-19 05:57:11] chocolicious : it doesn't even make sense, as a large miner all you need to do is mine enough blocks selfishly to overtake anyone's buffer level and you can consistently orphan the whole chain
[2017-04-19 05:57:37] l3f : podizzle3k: try something something non-retarded thanks
[2017-04-19 05:57:45] l3f : saying*
[2017-04-19 05:57:49] chocolicious : and as mining re-decentralizes out of China due to moore's law limits China will be rekt because of firewall propagation
[2017-04-19 05:57:50] zanza : i think core and BU should agree to SegWit + HF now
[2017-04-19 05:57:57] zanza : make compromise
[2017-04-19 05:58:08] chocolicious : I think no
[2017-04-19 05:58:10] podizzle3k : you know why core wouldnt agree to extension blocks?
[2017-04-19 05:58:10] l3f : zanza: core won't Gavin's too autistic
[2017-04-19 05:58:11] chocolicious : no hardfork
[2017-04-19 05:58:15] chocolicious : no need
[2017-04-19 05:58:18] podizzle3k : because it proves lightning network to be obsolete
[2017-04-19 05:58:24] l3f : Core devs are too autistic to compromise
[2017-04-19 05:58:30] zanza : $1 fee is bad though
[2017-04-19 05:58:46] chocolicious : lightning doesn't need segwit
[2017-04-19 05:58:51] l3f : I don't really mind the status quo tbh
[2017-04-19 05:58:52] chocolicious : trustless lightning does
[2017-04-19 05:59:16] chocolicious : you want trusted lightning because you are a gov't shill who is anti-fungibility
[2017-04-19 05:59:24] podizzle3k : theres 0 reason for core devs to veto extension blocks other than personal gain
[2017-04-19 05:59:39] TA : I think etc hits 4 dollars this week
[2017-04-19 05:59:43] chocolicious : actually there is a great reason, it's called decentralization
[2017-04-19 05:59:56] zanza : ta ?
[2017-04-19 06:00:01] chocolicious : it's called running a node through tor
[2017-04-19 06:00:25] chocolicious : it's called you don't deserve your coin, short and get rekt
[2017-04-19 06:00:55] podizzle3k : nothing says decentralization like 'supernodes'
[2017-04-19 06:01:11] chocolicious : lol
[2017-04-19 06:01:16] chocolicious : you think supernodes are decentralized?
[2017-04-19 06:01:17] podizzle3k : every time you make a personal attack at me i feel sorry for you and your losing position
[2017-04-19 06:01:45] podizzle3k : supernodes are the backbone of the lightning network
[2017-04-19 06:01:55] chocolicious : I have made a couple of personal attacks because you're an idiot, but most of my points are based on fact and reality and you just ignore them
[2017-04-19 06:02:00] chocolicious : muh ad hominem
[2017-04-19 06:02:18] chocolicious : lightning networki ssomethingelse
[2017-04-19 06:02:25] chocolicious : big blocks will make allfulln odes into super nodes
[2017-04-19 06:02:40] chocolicious : you can be a full nodeandnotrunlghtning i
[2017-04-19 06:03:03] podizzle3k : sorry i cant take anyone serious that calls me an idiot multiple times among other things
[2017-04-19 06:03:08] chocolicious : again further evidence you don't understand what you are talking about
[2017-04-19 06:03:15] shillosopher : just keep all your crypto on exchanges. No need to worry about keeping your PC secure when you watch porn on shady sites. You also don't need to wait to transfer if price tanks ;)
[2017-04-19 06:03:17] podizzle3k : if you want respect you have to earn it
[2017-04-19 06:03:54] zanza : chocolicious: what do you think is an acceptable fee for Bitcoin transaction ?
[2017-04-19 06:07:45] InvalidUser : WOw Finex
[2017-04-19 06:07:55] InvalidUser : Thank god they removed them
[2017-04-19 06:08:40] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-04-19 06:08:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.79 (-0.17%) Bitfinex : 1260.00 (-0.52%) The Woodchipper : 1216.28 (0.15%) itBit : 1197.83 (-0.60%) Kraken : 1207.00 (-0.16%) GDAX : 1197.01 (-0.82%) SLQ : 2 hours, 29 mins```
[2017-04-19 06:09:35] podizzle3k : technically okcoin usd should be removed now too
[2017-04-19 06:09:46] InvalidUser : Well that cleared out the longs
[2017-04-19 06:09:46] podizzle3k : since they disabled usd in and out
[2017-04-19 06:11:30] brouk : /rekt
[2017-04-19 06:11:30] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 1 day, 14 hours, 29 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 113000 @ 1205.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 1 day, 14 hours, 54 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 216000 @ 1203.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 3 days, 7 hours, 8 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-19 06:11:58] InvalidUser : They are retracing now
[2017-04-19 06:12:09] KyllingLolsson : wetwace
[2017-04-19 06:51:02] InvalidUser : 300 coin buy wall @ stamp
[2017-04-19 06:51:42] shillosopher : fake wall
[2017-04-19 06:58:00] alfaCharlie : /price
[2017-04-19 06:58:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1193.00 (-0.90%) Bitfinex : 1259.40 (-0.05%) The Woodchipper : 1211.08 (-0.43%) itBit : 1196.33 (-0.13%) Kraken : 1203.04 (-0.33%) GDAX : 1195.24 (-0.15%) SLQ : 49 mins```
[2017-04-19 06:59:12] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 06:59:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 72.42 / 27.59 Daily : 42.55 / 57.45 Weekly : 45.12 / 54.88 Monthly : 47.63 / 52.37```
[2017-04-19 06:59:54] PrinceSalmon : Shilosopher is on the ball tonight
[2017-04-19 07:00:29] PrinceSalmon : Anyone know where I can find a rap oriented crypto community?
[2017-04-19 07:01:05] shillosopher : no idea man
[2017-04-19 07:01:14] PrinceSalmon : Like maybe freestyle battles between ppl representing alt coins
[2017-04-19 07:01:37] PrinceSalmon : Or like BU vs the other one
[2017-04-19 07:02:38] PrinceSalmon : Sometimes I get this feeling that just overtakes me and I can't help rhyming my thoughts
[2017-04-19 07:03:17] PrinceSalmon : Well I'm probably the only one
[2017-04-19 07:03:32] zqooN : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz
[2017-04-19 07:03:54] PrinceSalmon : Morning bitchmade
[2017-04-19 07:05:13] zqooN : If that is freestyle i would try to clear your mind over that thoughts
[2017-04-19 07:06:51] alfaCharlie : ok is standing stamp falling
[2017-04-19 07:07:56] PrinceSalmon : Can you please try again maybe we can get a flow going
[2017-04-19 07:09:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13519 @ 1200.7
[2017-04-19 07:12:11] alfaCharlie : ok droping
[2017-04-19 07:12:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 7000 @ 1189.7
[2017-04-19 07:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1000 @ 1186.4
[2017-04-19 07:17:28] shapeshifter : /price
[2017-04-19 07:17:31] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1190.64 (-0.20%) Bitfinex : 1257.50 (-0.15%) The Woodchipper : 1206.01 (-0.42%) itBit : 1197.01 (0.06%) Kraken : 1200.00 (-0.25%) GDAX : 1193.50 (-0.15%) SLQ : 19 mins```
[2017-04-19 07:21:30] thomaskikansha : 1190 holds for now
[2017-04-19 07:22:38] shillosopher : was a total of 600btc flashed @1190 on stamp for a few seconds
[2017-04-19 07:26:55] saurabh94653 : i need 1 help
[2017-04-19 07:27:03] saurabh94653 : how to i deposit fiat?
[2017-04-19 07:28:17] jose : coinbase.com
[2017-04-19 07:28:17] shillosopher : saurabh94653: you don't. You deposit BTC here
[2017-04-19 07:30:00] Trade : LBC
[2017-04-19 07:31:01] saurabh94653 : ok thanks alot :)
[2017-04-19 07:45:40] Vintage : pump it!
[2017-04-19 07:46:32] Trade : How low will it go?
[2017-04-19 07:51:28] vgck : 951
[2017-04-19 07:52:23] Actualiteit : 300 area before bullrun to 500k+
[2017-04-19 07:55:03] KyllingLolsson : Actualiteit: prophet!
[2017-04-19 07:55:28] shillosopher : better sell everything now and buy back at 301
[2017-04-19 07:56:02] Actualiteit : I am here to enlighten you all with my infallible analysis
[2017-04-19 07:56:45] Actualiteit : I will go down in history as the man who "wasn't entirely right but kinda since price moved somewhere in between what he said"
[2017-04-19 07:57:24] Actualiteit : inb4 500k+ btc
[2017-04-19 07:57:38] KyllingLolsson : hahaha... Historybooks it is!
[2017-04-19 07:57:49] KyllingLolsson : Trader jesus
[2017-04-19 08:05:32] longbydefault : /price
[2017-04-19 08:05:34] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1193.33 (0.23%) Bitfinex : 1263.50 (0.48%) The Woodchipper : 1208.07 (0.17%) itBit : 1197.61 (0.05%) Kraken : 1199.60 (-0.03%) GDAX : 1195.44 (0.16%) SLQ : 48 mins```
[2017-04-19 08:09:31] rapidtrades : f2pool up to 1,500 from 1300 yday
[2017-04-19 08:10:24] rapidtrades : guess the LTC moonkids still think they can get theirprecious segwit
[2017-04-19 08:10:33] rapidtrades : they are wrong
[2017-04-19 08:14:42] hh : Someone is lifting XRP
[2017-04-19 08:14:54] rapidtrades : i see some ppl are already trying to shift the narrative 'segwit doesn't matter'
[2017-04-19 08:15:04] hh : Time to buy XRP?
[2017-04-19 08:15:16] rapidtrades : but they're in too deep and they invested too much in 'segwits=miracle'
[2017-04-19 08:15:42] zaico : no Market Disruption for OKcoin??
[2017-04-19 08:16:01] zaico : no Market Disruption for OKcoin?
[2017-04-19 08:19:01] brouk : nice $70 spread stamp – finex
[2017-04-19 08:22:20] BitMEX_John : zaico: we are drafting an announcement that will be made shortly
[2017-04-19 08:22:32] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-19 08:22:34] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1191.57 (-0.15%) Bitfinex : 1260.70 (-0.22%) The Woodchipper : 1205.86 (-0.18%) itBit : 1197.61 (0.00%) Kraken : 1199.60 (0.00%) GDAX : 1192.10 (-0.28%) SLQ : 17 mins```
[2017-04-19 08:24:08] thomaskikansha : only stamp remaining??
[2017-04-19 08:24:18] Tetsuo : IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD
[2017-04-19 08:24:31] Ahhere : Tetsuo: can you confirm ?
[2017-04-19 08:24:38] Tetsuo : 110%
[2017-04-19 08:24:44] Ahhere : Thx
[2017-04-19 08:24:53] BitMEX_John : thomaskikansha: no, that won't be the case, details will be in the announcement
[2017-04-19 08:24:55] rapidtrades : no GDAX will be back in with limits
[2017-04-19 08:25:16] Tetsuo : it looks pretty bad for BTC
[2017-04-19 08:25:30] rapidtrades : LTC too
[2017-04-19 08:25:35] Tetsuo : sadly yes
[2017-04-19 08:25:45] rapidtrades : yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[2017-04-19 08:25:53] rapidtrades : ur first public loss soon mofo
[2017-04-19 08:26:02] Tetsuo : sold everything hours ago
[2017-04-19 08:26:09] rapidtrades : fuuuuuuuuuuu
[2017-04-19 08:26:23] Tetsuo : full in cash now, mostly on my bank account
[2017-04-19 08:26:41] rapidtrades : u get in/out via kraken?
[2017-04-19 08:26:43] Tetsuo : shorting BTC now with my remainin coins
[2017-04-19 08:26:46] Yong : please, give me ETH, XMR 3months~!
[2017-04-19 08:27:11] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: stamp and bitcoin.de( german local bitcoin)
[2017-04-19 08:27:17] Yong : even Zcash is 3months, why not for ETH, XMR
[2017-04-19 08:27:34] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: why not kraken? its so cheap
[2017-04-19 08:27:51] brouk : haha zcash 24h turnover under 10btc
[2017-04-19 08:28:13] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: i was already registered @ Stamp iand i didn´t wan´t to take all the trouble again
[2017-04-19 08:28:25] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-04-19 08:28:30] Tetsuo : sned pictures of your dick and all that stuff
[2017-04-19 08:28:35] Tetsuo : *send
[2017-04-19 08:28:49] Tetsuo : it looks really bad for BTC
[2017-04-19 08:28:55] Tetsuo : USA will soon ban it
[2017-04-19 08:28:59] Vintage : poloniex next exchange to go down in flames, mar my words
[2017-04-19 08:29:14] rapidtrades : USA will certainly not 'ban BTC'
[2017-04-19 08:29:31] Tetsuo : USA bans scammy bitcoin exchanges!
[2017-04-19 08:29:33] Tetsuo : better
[2017-04-19 08:29:36] brouk : you cant ban btc
[2017-04-19 08:29:41] brouk : its decentralized
[2017-04-19 08:29:58] Aegis : can someone tell me wtf is going on with okcoin?
[2017-04-19 08:30:00] Aegis : why so low
[2017-04-19 08:30:15] Tetsuo : Aegis: it´s dying just like Finex
[2017-04-19 08:30:20] Tetsuo : no more deposits / withdrawlks
[2017-04-19 08:30:25] rapidtrades : says 1205
[2017-04-19 08:30:34] rapidtrades : is the API down
[2017-04-19 08:30:59] Aegis : 2 @Tetsuo nothing new though is it
[2017-04-19 08:32:05] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: do u want BFX coin?
[2017-04-19 08:32:29] rapidtrades : as a futures here
[2017-04-19 08:32:29] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: no
[2017-04-19 08:32:34] rapidtrades : why not
[2017-04-19 08:32:56] Tetsuo : bitfinex will manipulate iw with false statements. maybe they will live even for 4 or more months
[2017-04-19 08:33:09] Tetsuo : i hate them and don´t wan´t to touch anything with their name on it
[2017-04-19 08:33:19] Tetsuo : Aegis: news is from yesterday
[2017-04-19 08:33:23] Aegis : rise of decentralised exchanges soon?
[2017-04-19 08:33:42] Aegis : Tetsuo: okcoin news?
[2017-04-19 08:33:53] rapidtrades : what news
[2017-04-19 08:33:55] Aegis : Tetsuo: finex i know its fcked up too
[2017-04-19 08:33:55] Tetsuo : yes u fool
[2017-04-19 08:34:24] brouk : https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder7/60815007.jpg
[2017-04-19 08:34:30] brouk : you still have time
[2017-04-19 08:34:47] Aegis : oh damn they have usd withdrawals blockadedtoo
[2017-04-19 08:34:50] Aegis : :(
[2017-04-19 08:35:21] brouk : Aegis: deposits too I believe
[2017-04-19 08:35:38] Aegis : Well, that means bitmex has disregard okcoin, as its even worse than bitfinex right now as a index weigh
[2017-04-19 08:36:00] Aegis : @bitmex I recommend kraken
[2017-04-19 08:36:11] Aegis : as a replacement to okcoin
[2017-04-19 08:37:22] rapidtrades : kraken USD is barely liquid
[2017-04-19 08:37:44] rapidtrades : they would have to use EUR then / EUR/USD exchange rate
[2017-04-19 08:38:03] rapidtrades : or * EUR/USD sry
[2017-04-19 08:38:40] thomaskikansha : less likely they would do that
[2017-04-19 08:38:57] thomaskikansha : making things more complicated
[2017-04-19 08:40:17] rapidtrades : https://twitter.com/f2pool_wangchun/status/854544466157289472
[2017-04-19 08:40:37] rapidtrades : wang chung is saying UASF would be suicide for litecoin
[2017-04-19 08:40:55] rapidtrades : prolly alluding to Jihan killing their chain
[2017-04-19 08:45:28] zqooN : Just another day in the Chrimbo Korn Wars
[2017-04-19 08:47:01] Aegis : so only btc withdrawals for okcoin now?
[2017-04-19 08:48:37] Aegis : brouk: yh deposits too
[2017-04-19 08:49:46] Tetsuo : https://medium.com/@whalecalls/taiwan-aml-reforms-usd-crypto-drama-15417cbcdf7b
[2017-04-19 08:50:07] Tetsuo : looks like XAPO is also in the drama
[2017-04-19 08:52:49] rapidtrades : weird, didn't know btce processed any USD wires
[2017-04-19 08:52:57] rapidtrades : i thought they banned them years ago
[2017-04-19 08:54:04] rapidtrades : we have no evidence that they used a Taiwanese account
[2017-04-19 08:54:42] rapidtrades : @sleger what bank account does okc use?
[2017-04-19 08:54:49] rapidtrades : i thought it was honk kong
[2017-04-19 08:55:56] rapidtrades : that medium article prolly paid for by bitfinex to make it seem like 'war on crypto' when its really a war on them
[2017-04-19 08:58:54] Aegis : Well, at least now they have to buy btc to withdraw
[2017-04-19 09:00:28] rapidtrades : 2169/3013 (71.99%) blocks signaling! 6048 out of 8064 (75%) blocks are required to activate.
[2017-04-19 09:00:46] rapidtrades : @Tetsuo why not short LTC? its easy sub-10 without segwit
[2017-04-19 09:00:49] Tetsuo : Good time to sell spot on the exit pump (BTC)
[2017-04-19 09:01:07] rapidtrades : i hope kraken fomoes a bit
[2017-04-19 09:01:19] Tetsuo : BTC seems safer to short
[2017-04-19 09:01:31] rapidtrades : doubt it tho, BTCEUR prices have been low for weeks
[2017-04-19 09:02:08] rapidtrades : charts look much more bearish for LTC tho
[2017-04-19 09:02:31] rapidtrades : double top crash followed to pancaked suicide pattern
[2017-04-19 09:03:03] Tetsuo : PnD manipulation from chinese miners is much more easy in LTC. They could let it pump to +20$ on fake news first
[2017-04-19 09:03:28] rapidtrades : there no more news tho
[2017-04-19 09:03:51] rapidtrades : everyone is watching segwit
[2017-04-19 09:04:30] Tetsuo : maybe jihan wu starts signaling segwit with all his new miners for a few days before he stops it, these china kids behave insane
[2017-04-19 09:05:04] rapidtrades : he can't do that with segit at 72%, its still close
[2017-04-19 09:05:20] rapidtrades : he can't afford to stop pumping
[2017-04-19 09:07:09] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 09:07:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 42.66 / 57.34 Daily : 44.13 / 55.87 Weekly : 44.93 / 55.07 Monthly : 47.59 / 52.41```
[2017-04-19 09:08:46] rapidtrades : there's a lot more room for downside in LTC
[2017-04-19 09:09:15] rapidtrades : its still 150% above where it was before f2pool segwitted
[2017-04-19 09:10:05] arbitrage101 : downside for ltc is 11
[2017-04-19 09:10:23] arbitrage101 : upside is infinity?
[2017-04-19 09:10:23] rapidtrades : its already below 11...finexboi
[2017-04-19 09:11:02] arbitrage101 : would do you think 50 dollars, or 100 dollars is out of reach for ltc
[2017-04-19 09:11:04] rapidtrades : don't try to troll me while u have ur funds stuck at bitfinex
[2017-04-19 09:11:07] arbitrage101 : why would you think
[2017-04-19 09:11:26] rapidtrades : srsly, i let u off easy yday cos of that stupidity
[2017-04-19 09:11:42] arbitrage101 : finex should still be alive for at least 3 months
[2017-04-19 09:11:55] arbitrage101 : if they solved their problem, it is good for traders anyway
[2017-04-19 09:12:17] PrinceSalmon : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 09:12:19] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.11 / 66.90 Daily : 43.85 / 56.15 Weekly : 44.93 / 55.08 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 09:12:22] arbitrage101 : as there is no other exchange can replace their functionality
[2017-04-19 09:17:18] Wings : /price
[2017-04-19 09:17:19] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1194.82 (0.27%) Bitfinex : 1261.50 (0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1205.25 (-0.05%) itBit : 1197.61 (0.00%) Kraken : 1200.00 (0.03%) GDAX : 1194.30 (0.18%) SLQ : 54 mins```
[2017-04-19 09:21:53] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: what functionally is that? losing half of my bitcoins?
[2017-04-19 09:22:02] rapidtrades : i can do that on my own thanks
[2017-04-19 09:25:54] arbitrage101 : you mean the 36% haircut?
[2017-04-19 09:26:50] rapidtrades : its only 36% cos they took my dollars to pay for the moonkids being long
[2017-04-19 09:27:04] rapidtrades : thieves go to jail soon
[2017-04-19 09:27:27] arbitrage101 : it is only 18% if you hold for 2-3 months
[2017-04-19 09:27:33] arbitrage101 : and sell at 0.5
[2017-04-19 09:27:50] arbitrage101 : or 6 months at 100%
[2017-04-19 09:28:06] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2017-04-19 09:28:12] arbitrage101 : how so
[2017-04-19 09:28:14] rapidtrades : only an idiot would stay at finex after that
[2017-04-19 09:28:21] arbitrage101 : many did
[2017-04-19 09:28:24] rapidtrades : which u clearly are for staying there for months
[2017-04-19 09:28:29] arbitrage101 : they have viable business model
[2017-04-19 09:28:33] rapidtrades : they are all idiots
[2017-04-19 09:28:42] rapidtrades : owners, u, traders
[2017-04-19 09:29:11] arbitrage101 : lucrative business model
[2017-04-19 09:29:22] arbitrage101 : if the valuation is reasonable, i might even invest
[2017-04-19 09:29:30] aethlios : arbitrage101: what's the news with okcoin futures? and usd withdrawals? any link?
[2017-04-19 09:29:34] arbitrage101 : glad the valuation is high
[2017-04-19 09:29:48] arbitrage101 : aethlios: not sure, just heard it here
[2017-04-19 09:30:08] rapidtrades : u have no clue how lucrative it is
[2017-04-19 09:30:44] rapidtrades : they just did another scam, withholding important market info and redeeemding all tokens while they knew about the WF block
[2017-04-19 09:31:01] rapidtrades : they are doing an exit scam right now
[2017-04-19 09:31:20] arbitrage101 : use logic
[2017-04-19 09:31:28] arbitrage101 : if they want to exit scam
[2017-04-19 09:31:31] arbitrage101 : they wont redeem
[2017-04-19 09:31:43] arbitrage101 : or bother issueing token in the first place
[2017-04-19 09:32:12] rapidtrades : they owned most tokens (as they admitted top 3 of top 10 are theirs)
[2017-04-19 09:32:13] Tetsuo : aethlios: usd deposits and withdraws @ okkoin.com stopped yesterday
[2017-04-19 09:32:48] arbitrage101 : there is no official announcement here yet?
[2017-04-19 09:32:49] rapidtrades : they did the token thing to split the community and lower odds of suing
[2017-04-19 09:32:53] arbitrage101 : on the index
[2017-04-19 09:33:06] BitMEX_John : arbitrage101: not yet, but we will be making an announcement shortly
[2017-04-19 09:33:15] Tetsuo : make it soonisher
[2017-04-19 09:33:19] arbitrage101 : BitMEX_John: ok. thank you
[2017-04-19 09:33:22] rapidtrades : so some idiots like u can say if u waited u would've gotten 90% back...while others lost 30%
[2017-04-19 09:33:32] Tetsuo : he clearly is a fool
[2017-04-19 09:33:41] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: the method of making money is buy low sell high
[2017-04-19 09:34:01] arbitrage101 : price will only be low if everyone panic
[2017-04-19 09:34:31] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 09:34:33] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 19.97 / 80.03 Daily : 44.11 / 55.89 Weekly : 44.92 / 55.08 Monthly : 47.58 / 52.42```
[2017-04-19 09:34:41] arbitrage101 : there is no easy money for you to pick if everyone can see it clearly
[2017-04-19 09:34:43] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: so only weak handes sell, cuz price will go up forever=
[2017-04-19 09:34:47] Tetsuo : ?
[2017-04-19 09:35:00] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: depend on fundamental
[2017-04-19 09:35:08] aethlios : Tetsuo: so it is a general issue with usd and banks, not only finex.
[2017-04-19 09:35:09] arbitrage101 : if we are talking about finex
[2017-04-19 09:35:20] rapidtrades : u severely misjudge counter-party risk and it finally got around to biting u in the ass @arbitrage101
[2017-04-19 09:35:21] Tetsuo : aethlios: or with scammy exchanges
[2017-04-19 09:35:23] arbitrage101 : their business model is still viable
[2017-04-19 09:35:39] Tetsuo : ^ban this troll
[2017-04-19 09:35:46] arbitrage101 : was viable
[2017-04-19 09:35:49] rapidtrades : there are very little true arbs in crypto, just counter-party risk
[2017-04-19 09:36:49] Tetsuo : aethlios: coinbase/bittamp/kraken not affected
[2017-04-19 09:37:05] rapidtrades : ppl were 'arbing' the china-west gap for years and look at them now
[2017-04-19 09:37:06] rapidtrades : where they at?
[2017-04-19 09:37:15] Tetsuo : dead
[2017-04-19 09:37:15] arbitrage101 : i am still around
[2017-04-19 09:37:28] rapidtrades : with 5k left?
[2017-04-19 09:37:31] aethlios : Tetsuo: there must be something with asian banks and usd aml laws.
[2017-04-19 09:37:44] arbitrage101 : XBCM17 24268
[2017-04-19 09:37:48] Tetsuo : aethlios: yes it is. taiwan is crackin down on crypto
[2017-04-19 09:38:00] rapidtrades : we don't know that
[2017-04-19 09:38:13] Tetsuo : true
[2017-04-19 09:38:15] rapidtrades : only 1 medium article suggested that
[2017-04-19 09:38:35] Tetsuo : might also be a rackdown on money laundering exchanges
[2017-04-19 09:38:45] rapidtrades : im almost sure okc used HK and NY bank for USD
[2017-04-19 09:40:03] Tetsuo : i´m getting this every few hours since yesterday"Due to regulation, this function is not availavle in the country/region your currently reside in."
[2017-04-19 09:40:21] Tetsuo : then i write support tell em that my IP is in germany, get unblocked, 2 hours later i can´t use futures again
[2017-04-19 09:40:29] Tetsuo : okk
[2017-04-19 09:40:31] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: which country are you ?
[2017-04-19 09:40:38] Tetsuo : germany
[2017-04-19 09:40:50] aethlios : exchanges now make huge profit from fees, same fees with much more volume and coins. finex payed back so quickly because of huge volumes. so noone wants to scam people when is super profitable. finex also has many shareholders now.
[2017-04-19 09:41:06] arbitrage101 : aethlios: right
[2017-04-19 09:41:13] Tetsuo : Finex might have used tether for their scam
[2017-04-19 09:41:14] arbitrage101 : but fundamental change again
[2017-04-19 09:41:24] arbitrage101 : if bank stop processing for them
[2017-04-19 09:41:27] arbitrage101 : they are done
[2017-04-19 09:41:55] Tetsuo : ur money on finex too
[2017-04-19 09:42:11] arbitrage101 : i will withdraw the moment my coin is free up
[2017-04-19 09:42:29] Actualiteit : free up?
[2017-04-19 09:42:35] arbitrage101 : stuck in lending
[2017-04-19 09:42:40] Actualiteit : ohh
[2017-04-19 09:42:48] aethlios : arbitrage101: they can't confiscate the bank accounts, customers won't lose money. the war against crypto from bank cartel will grow as crypto grow, they fight for their survival.
[2017-04-19 09:43:06] arbitrage101 : aethlios: yea, but problem is i dont think they are solvent
[2017-04-19 09:43:19] arbitrage101 : like tetsua mention here
[2017-04-19 09:43:30] arbitrage101 : scam using tether
[2017-04-19 09:43:37] brouk : /price
[2017-04-19 09:43:39] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.18 (0.20%) Bitfinex : 1260.00 (-0.12%) The Woodchipper : 1211.71 (0.54%) itBit : 1196.04 (-0.13%) Kraken : 1197.10 (-0.24%) GDAX : 1197.19 (0.24%) SLQ : 26 mins```
[2017-04-19 09:43:44] arbitrage101 : or use customer money to redeem back all the remaining token
[2017-04-19 09:44:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 700 @ 0.006177
[2017-04-19 09:44:06] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: where should i take profit on my LTC short?
[2017-04-19 09:44:41] Tetsuo : https://twitter.com/wpalczynski/status/854414666960961536
[2017-04-19 09:44:43] rapidtrades : think about it, why redeem 90% if the issue is trivial like getting a new bank account?
[2017-04-19 09:44:57] rapidtrades : this is likely the end of the road for them
[2017-04-19 09:45:16] arbitrage101 : they have been proven to be resourceful
[2017-04-19 09:45:24] Tetsuo : quite the opposite
[2017-04-19 09:45:24] arbitrage101 : and resilient
[2017-04-19 09:45:35] arbitrage101 : still alive after so many mess up
[2017-04-19 09:45:55] Tetsuo : so was Gox
[2017-04-19 09:46:12] Tetsuo : ur a fool if you think that finex is legit, they have lied and stolen so many times
[2017-04-19 09:46:17] rapidtrades : how much did supply go up?
[2017-04-19 09:46:29] arbitrage101 : i withdrew everything from gox 6 months before it went down
[2017-04-19 09:46:45] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: 50m?
[2017-04-19 09:46:45] rapidtrades : yet u stayed at finex
[2017-04-19 09:46:57] arbitrage101 : will withdraw soon
[2017-04-19 09:47:09] rapidtrades : i doubt that
[2017-04-19 09:47:20] Tetsuo : from 7m to 60m since january....
[2017-04-19 09:47:31] arbitrage101 : coin stucked, cant withdraw now
[2017-04-19 09:47:50] Tetsuo : only fools stayed after the latest hack
[2017-04-19 09:48:12] Tetsuo : i withdrew everything 3 years ago
[2017-04-19 09:48:20] Tetsuo : cuz they were already fucked up at that time
[2017-04-19 09:48:26] Tetsuo : could have gone dark anytime
[2017-04-19 09:48:45] arbitrage101 : i guess the trade roll back on flash crash cost you much?
[2017-04-19 09:48:58] rapidtrades : i should've withdrawn all after those 'technical problems' in june
[2017-04-19 09:49:53] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: where can we short tether?
[2017-04-19 09:50:01] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: i got out before as i said too you a few days ago
[2017-04-19 09:50:07] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: nowhere
[2017-04-19 09:50:09] rapidtrades : @bitmex give us tether or BFX futures pls
[2017-04-19 09:50:34] arbitrage101 : you think you can find someone to buy from you at high price?
[2017-04-19 09:50:47] arbitrage101 : when everyone know there is a problem
[2017-04-19 09:50:48] Tetsuo : there are always enough fools around
[2017-04-19 09:50:53] Tetsuo : like you
[2017-04-19 09:51:03] rapidtrades : tether still at 0.99
[2017-04-19 09:51:13] Tetsuo : everything will be fine(x) they will say
[2017-04-19 09:51:16] rapidtrades : tether futures NOW!
[2017-04-19 09:51:33] BitMEX_John : rapidtrades: could you clarify what you mean by finex futures?
[2017-04-19 09:51:58] rapidtrades : same as june but index/mark based on BFX price only
[2017-04-19 09:52:03] Actualiteit : lol
[2017-04-19 09:52:16] BitMEX_John : rapidtrades: oh I see, interesting proposition!
[2017-04-19 09:52:26] Trebile : How can I remove my trading account?
[2017-04-19 09:53:11] rapidtrades : https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/tether/#charts
[2017-04-19 09:53:23] rapidtrades : ^ don't understand, why would they print so much tether
[2017-04-19 09:53:43] rapidtrades : any reason besides paying back tokens....and why hasn't tether crashed yet
[2017-04-19 09:53:46] jayesh : BitMEX_John: Hey OKCoin has also freezed Deposits of USD. WHat are you going to do now ?
[2017-04-19 09:53:47] BitMEX_John : Trebile: please send an email to support@bitmex.com from your account email requesting your account to be deleted
[2017-04-19 09:54:10] BitMEX_John : jayesh: we are correctly working on a fix, an announcement will be made shortly
[2017-04-19 09:54:28] Trebile : Ok, I'll do so.
[2017-04-19 09:57:12] aethlios : don't listen to rapid. panic sold bfx 0.25 and shorted ltc 4.45, he get's scared and panic in a jiffy, probably living in a cave now from his fear to not get scammed.
[2017-04-19 09:58:09] arbitrage101 : some people mindset isn't gear for trading
[2017-04-19 09:58:10] Tetsuo : i´m living in a cave right next to him (although 5 stars)
[2017-04-19 09:58:32] rapidtrades : i sold bfx at 0.37, i should've sold at 0.30 when it went live
[2017-04-19 09:58:36] Tetsuo : good luck gettin your money out for a reasonable price when the crackdown in exchanges begins
[2017-04-19 09:58:51] Tetsuo : can´t barely hedge anymore
[2017-04-19 09:58:53] arbitrage101 : it is not fiat that is stucked
[2017-04-19 09:58:57] Tetsuo : okk dead, finex dead
[2017-04-19 09:59:00] arbitrage101 : coin already hedged
[2017-04-19 09:59:08] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: where?
[2017-04-19 09:59:12] Tetsuo : in here you might get adld
[2017-04-19 09:59:21] l3f : BitMEX_John: Can you add bfx back?
[2017-04-19 09:59:22] l3f : I miss it
[2017-04-19 09:59:27] rapidtrades : you WILL get adled
[2017-04-19 09:59:29] Tetsuo : l3f: NO!
[2017-04-19 09:59:32] Tetsuo : SCAM
[2017-04-19 09:59:36] rapidtrades : its a matter of when not if
[2017-04-19 09:59:37] l3f : Tetsuo: but MUH longs
[2017-04-19 09:59:45] Tetsuo : l3f: they will SUFFER
[2017-04-19 09:59:55] l3f : Tetsuo: hahaha
[2017-04-19 10:00:03] BitMEX_John : l3f: haha, not yet I'm afraid!
[2017-04-19 10:00:18] rapidtrades : man really tempting not to add more on this LTC price action
[2017-04-19 10:00:26] l3f : BitMEX_John: what's the status on okc?
[2017-04-19 10:01:14] BitMEX_John : l3f: we are working on some fixes for the index, if we just remove OKC we will be down to just one reference exchange which isn't desirable
[2017-04-19 10:01:23] rapidtrades : okc will be taken out, GDAX back in with limits
[2017-04-19 10:01:27] BitMEX_John : l3f: we will be making an announcement as soon as we can
[2017-04-19 10:01:34] rapidtrades : most likely result
[2017-04-19 10:01:36] Tetsuo : ^maybe itbit too
[2017-04-19 10:01:49] Tetsuo : or/and kraken
[2017-04-19 10:01:50] l3f : BitMEX_John: that's good to hear but it would be nice to have more than 20 minute notice before index switches
[2017-04-19 10:01:51] rapidtrades : itbit volume is very inconsistent
[2017-04-19 10:01:57] Tetsuo : nothing is safe anymore
[2017-04-19 10:02:13] rapidtrades : im only on btce and here right now
[2017-04-19 10:02:22] Tetsuo : stamp and here right now
[2017-04-19 10:02:32] Tetsuo : and my locked up profits in okk
[2017-04-19 10:02:32] aethlios : BitMEX_John: use krakrn eur pair (with it's usd equivalent price based on live eur/usd pair
[2017-04-19 10:02:46] l3f : aethlios: add in CNY for shits and giggles
[2017-04-19 10:02:48] rapidtrades : i should try deribit and report back
[2017-04-19 10:03:03] rapidtrades : bitmex really lacking the weekly/monthly BTC futures
[2017-04-19 10:03:16] rapidtrades : and swap is a financial product of mass destruction
[2017-04-19 10:03:35] aethlios : BitMEX_John: don't use only stamp, is stupid, stamp has less volume than bitmex, can be manipulated easily.
[2017-04-19 10:03:41] Tetsuo : is USA investigates against thther then polo might suffer topo
[2017-04-19 10:03:46] Tetsuo : *tether
[2017-04-19 10:03:54] aethlios : rapidtrades: deribit no volume.
[2017-04-19 10:04:06] rapidtrades : aethlios: they all have less volume then bitmex....cos here its paper traded at 100x
[2017-04-19 10:04:11] rapidtrades : think about it greek
[2017-04-19 10:04:18] Tetsuo : makes sense :-)
[2017-04-19 10:04:24] l3f : mex is literally cfds on leverage
[2017-04-19 10:04:45] aethlios : rapidtrades: that's why you use 4 exchanges, so more difficult to manipulate 4 spot exchanges than one.
[2017-04-19 10:05:14] aethlios : what if bitmex index was only gdax when it crashed to 0.06??? bitmex goes broke.
[2017-04-19 10:05:26] rapidtrades : which 4
[2017-04-19 10:06:34] aethlios : rapidtrades: CF has a nice system, they have 4,5 and exclude the higher and lower and keep every time 3 prices.
[2017-04-19 10:07:05] Tetsuo : it won´t be only Bitstamp
[2017-04-19 10:07:07] Tetsuo : in here
[2017-04-19 10:07:16] Tetsuo : they will probably add gdax and another one
[2017-04-19 10:07:33] aethlios : Tetsuo: only to left in index, if they remove okcoin only stamp is left.
[2017-04-19 10:07:55] Tetsuo : they will remove okk and at the same time add 1 or 2 others, at least that´s my guess
[2017-04-19 10:08:08] Average : /price
[2017-04-19 10:08:09] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.03 (-0.01%) Bitfinex : 1258.10 (-0.15%) The Woodchipper : 1212.16 (0.04%) itBit : 1196.83 (0.07%) Kraken : 1199.00 (0.16%) GDAX : 1197.56 (0.03%) SLQ : 24 mins```
[2017-04-19 10:08:34] Tetsuo : Huobi/USD 1030.00
[2017-04-19 10:10:17] jayesh : Go for BTC-e
[2017-04-19 10:11:07] BitMEX_John : We will not have only one reference exchange in the index, hence why our announcement is taking a little while to get together, we need to finalise some details
[2017-04-19 10:12:07] Average : BitMEX_John: if you have a number of exchanges and filter out the highest and lowest one you wont have any price discrepancies issues when switching indexes
[2017-04-19 10:12:48] Tetsuo : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd still alive!
[2017-04-19 10:13:01] Average : when an exchanges prices goes whack, like GDAX or bitfinex pump, those will just get filtered
[2017-04-19 10:14:06] Actualiteit : Tetsuo: gox should be added to index with weight 5.
[2017-04-19 10:14:11] aethlios : BitMEX_John: true, return finex and gdax, and use filters, when those exchanges return to normal, will just be used to the index automatically/
[2017-04-19 10:14:26] Tetsuo : Actualiteit: +1
[2017-04-19 10:14:54] Tetsuo : aethlios: i doubt that finex will ever return to normal
[2017-04-19 10:14:59] rapidtrades : aethlios: they will never return finex...srsly how stupid are u
[2017-04-19 10:15:02] Tetsuo : gdax is a total different case than finex though
[2017-04-19 10:15:41] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/tether/#charts