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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-04-18 23:11:35] chocolicious : okc
[2017-04-18 23:12:07] L9 : I see no reason in firat deposits to crypto stock exchanges
[2017-04-18 23:12:56] chocolicious : they removed finex when they announced a halt to deposits
[2017-04-18 23:13:27] L9 : Too many papers to translate for the verification (I live in the non-EU country).
[2017-04-18 23:13:49] JerryBuss : okcoin stopping deposits .. is bitmex index going to be a bitstamp index ??
[2017-04-18 23:13:54] JerryBuss : oops
[2017-04-18 23:13:58] JerryBuss : *okcoin
[2017-04-18 23:14:01] L9 : I always used BTC depo and withdrawals
[2017-04-18 23:15:56] chocolicious : their inclusion and exclusion of exchanges is arbitrary. Finex is processing withdrawals today in Hong Kong Dollar and Swiss Franc
[2017-04-18 23:15:56] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-18 23:15:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 40.84 / 59.16 Daily : 33.01 / 66.99 Weekly : 45.59 / 54.41 Monthly : 47.66 / 52.34```
[2017-04-18 23:16:56] InvalidUser : ?
[2017-04-18 23:18:21] L9 : chocolicious: IMO crypto echange should be cryptoexchange with all operations in crypto. Possibly I am not 100% right, however.
[2017-04-18 23:19:10] JimSlim : Hmm...what does the word "exchange" mean...hmm
[2017-04-18 23:19:12] chocolicious : You're dumb
[2017-04-18 23:20:52] L9 : Poloniex doesn't have fiat opportunities and related problems as well. USDT is just a digital equivalent of USD so I am not considering it "fiat"
[2017-04-18 23:21:55] chocolicious : polo is a pump and dump, btc/usd on finex drives everything
[2017-04-18 23:23:01] j8 : polo using USDT is just outsourcing the fiat problems (to bitfinex, which owns tether)
[2017-04-18 23:24:01] Tetsuo : https://twitter.com/wpalczynski/status/854414666960961536
[2017-04-18 23:24:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 180 @ 0.00899
[2017-04-18 23:25:38] L9 : Which is the best time of the day for the most liquid trading?
[2017-04-18 23:25:52] chocolicious : different every day
[2017-04-18 23:26:09] L9 : I mean when price is not idle like now
[2017-04-18 23:26:20] j8 : Tetsuo: not a bad scam if it's true.
[2017-04-18 23:26:31] chocolicious : price is idle because it's about to move
[2017-04-18 23:26:38] chocolicious : daily close is a good time of day
[2017-04-18 23:27:14] 5bg : BitMEX_Sam: plans to remove ok from index? And put coinbase back?
[2017-04-18 23:27:18] InvalidUser : Tetsuo: Hmmm
[2017-04-18 23:27:36] chocolicious : Bitmex is putting finex and gdax back in
[2017-04-18 23:27:49] InvalidUser : 5bg: I doubt it
[2017-04-18 23:27:49] Tetsuo : chocolicious: plz don´t lie
[2017-04-18 23:28:11] chocolicious : Sorry, bitmex is only going to have Bitstamp
[2017-04-18 23:28:42] Tetsuo : i don´t think polo is going to be a safe place if the USA cracks down on exchanges usin USDT
[2017-04-18 23:30:58] amaru : sideways for the day? hehe
[2017-04-18 23:31:00] Tetsuo : a gigantic shitstorm is coming
[2017-04-18 23:32:01] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjMkqFmRGL4
[2017-04-18 23:33:40] L9 : Where are you from guys, if it is ok to ask?
[2017-04-18 23:33:41] amaru : vol is drying up a bit
[2017-04-18 23:34:35] InvalidUser : Vancouver BC
[2017-04-18 23:35:01] Tetsuo : Papua New Guinea
[2017-04-18 23:35:09] Tetsuo : (southern)
[2017-04-18 23:35:11] amaru : Mars here
[2017-04-18 23:36:29] InvalidUser : Tetsuo: I love that show
[2017-04-18 23:42:39] Tetsuo : "Currently due to regulatory issues OKCoin cannot process withdrawals to US banks."
[2017-04-18 23:42:45] Tetsuo : Time to remove okkoin!
[2017-04-18 23:42:47] Tetsuo : NOW!
[2017-04-18 23:42:57] Tetsuo : SCAM
[2017-04-18 23:43:29] InvalidUser : link?
[2017-04-18 23:43:33] micmix : let's remove all exchanges from the index, we don't need any
[2017-04-18 23:43:41] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-04-18 23:43:45] Tetsuo : micmix: +1
[2017-04-18 23:44:04] InvalidUser : Price discovery in a paper market is not a good idea.
[2017-04-18 23:44:05] BitMEX_Sam : We'll be making an announcement shortly on the index.
[2017-04-18 23:44:25] Tetsuo : InvalidUser: https://www.okcoin.com/account/withdrawUsd.do
[2017-04-18 23:44:35] micmix : I will supply reference price to BitMEX personally
[2017-04-18 23:44:42] micmix : via snail mail
[2017-04-18 23:44:58] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Sounds more reliable than the state of the art...
[2017-04-18 23:45:07] InvalidUser : Tetsuo: ty
[2017-04-18 23:45:17] micmix : I promise not to send $0.08
[2017-04-18 23:45:47] micmix : or $0.06 for that matter ;-)
[2017-04-18 23:46:03] InvalidUser : It's only US and they are a very small part of the BTC market
[2017-04-18 23:46:39] chocolicious : It's USD, not just US customers. The index is priced in USD
[2017-04-18 23:48:47] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Speaking of snail mail reliability - I've got my new credit card in an envelope with 2 manual address corrections. One month late but I still got it. Try to do that with an IP packet!
[2017-04-18 23:49:26] InvalidUser : I still can't find the next. that link sent me to the front page
[2017-04-18 23:49:38] InvalidUser : *news
[2017-04-18 23:51:35] Tetsuo : InvalidUser: https://picload.org/image/rcoliral/ooo.jpg
[2017-04-18 23:51:53] InvalidUser : Tetsuo: ty
[2017-04-18 23:52:20] InvalidUser : I still don't see it being a big deal, How many US peeps use OKCo in anymore
[2017-04-18 23:53:36] micmix : Tetsuo is correct, I have the same on my okc withdrawal page: Currently due to regulatory issues OKCoin cannot process withdrawals to US banks.
[2017-04-18 23:54:26] InvalidUser : Is Exchange exit 2.0 coming up
[2017-04-18 23:54:36] InvalidUser : This may end up being a real good week
[2017-04-18 23:54:43] Tetsuo : InvalidUser: https://youtu.be/Rhmv40SBzS4?t=1m22s
[2017-04-18 23:55:11] InvalidUser : Tetsuo: Lol good clip
[2017-04-18 23:55:30] frog : can they process usd withdrawals to non us banks?
[2017-04-18 23:56:34] micmix : frog: almost all USD goes through US correspondent banks
[2017-04-18 23:57:59] InvalidUser : It looks like that news is 18hrs old
[2017-04-18 23:58:16] micmix : if you are in Canada you can try RBC, they don't use US correspondent bank for incoming US wires
[2017-04-18 23:58:29] InvalidUser : I just talked to the BTC CEO and she said were going to have a bit of a pump
[2017-04-18 23:58:57] L9 : BTC CEO... ROFL
[2017-04-18 23:59:02] Tetsuo : Mark Karpeles cat?
[2017-04-18 23:59:49] Tetsuo : https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fe6jxwOo.jpg&t=575&c=BeTGN2fisVXeRw
[2017-04-19 00:00:29] InvalidUser : MagicalTux is a fuktard
[2017-04-19 00:01:14] InvalidUser : He was in way over his head and should have asked for help
[2017-04-19 00:01:17] Tetsuo : i would choose mark over the crooks @ Finex at any given day
[2017-04-19 00:01:36] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-04-19 00:01:46] InvalidUser : I don't know to much about Phil.
[2017-04-19 00:02:59] Tetsuo : raphael and giancarlo are top notch scam artists
[2017-04-19 00:05:49] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-19 00:05:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.62 (0.15%) Bitfinex : 1264.20 (-0.35%) The Woodchipper : 1215.27 (-0.35%) itBit : 1201.27 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1202.39 (-0.55%) GDAX : 1201.23 (-0.09%) SLQ : 3 hours, 55 mins```
[2017-04-19 00:06:07] shillosopher : did mark get banned?
[2017-04-19 00:07:00] j8 : okcoin hasn't been processing withdrawals to US banks in like a year
[2017-04-19 00:07:00] Tetsuo : we don´t talk about him in here anymore
[2017-04-19 00:07:22] j8 : there is something new about deposits though.
[2017-04-19 00:08:16] Tetsuo : the statement on their withdraw USD site is new though?
[2017-04-19 00:08:27] j8 : don't think so
[2017-04-19 00:08:27] Tetsuo : or not?
[2017-04-19 00:08:33] Tetsuo : hmm
[2017-04-19 00:09:05] j8 : ever since they blocked US customers from futures i think
[2017-04-19 00:09:43] j8 : and it's only withdrawals to US banks. not all USD withdrawals
[2017-04-19 00:10:27] InvalidUser : Are we going to get a Finex pump 2.0?
[2017-04-19 00:10:55] Tetsuo : j8: might just be bad spelling, okcoin is known for that, at least in chat :-)
[2017-04-19 00:11:41] j8 : absolutely
[2017-04-19 00:11:44] amaru : qtly dumping
[2017-04-19 00:13:06] Tetsuo : amaru: maybe people start closin their future positions to withdraw, at least that´s what i have done after the "news"
[2017-04-19 00:13:07] Shoba : amaru: not any more than swap
[2017-04-19 00:13:30] chocolicious : when is this index announcement
[2017-04-19 00:13:36] Tetsuo : soonish
[2017-04-19 00:13:38] amaru : Shoba: im talking abou quarterlies on okc
[2017-04-19 00:13:55] amaru : Tetsuo: what news?
[2017-04-19 00:13:55] shillosopher : BitMEX_Sam: updated ETA on announcement?
[2017-04-19 00:14:04] Tetsuo : only my profits are locked in there until settlement on firday
[2017-04-19 00:14:21] Tetsuo : amaru: okkoin stoppind USD depostis and withdraws
[2017-04-19 00:14:30] amaru : Tetsuo: what time is settlement?
[2017-04-19 00:14:34] Shoba : amaru: guess you're right, though last i looked premium was down to +$10, so another $3-5 off index
[2017-04-19 00:14:55] amaru : Tetsuo: is that new? i thought it was old news
[2017-04-19 00:14:57] Tetsuo : Friday 10 or 11
[2017-04-19 00:15:06] Tetsuo : amaru: it´s from today
[2017-04-19 00:15:18] amaru : fuck
[2017-04-19 00:15:32] Tetsuo : From OKCOIN.com Starting from today (April 18th, 2017), OKCoin would temporarily suspend USD deposit because of the issues with intermediary banks. ..."
[2017-04-19 00:16:48] JerryBuss : so index will be bitstamp solo now ?
[2017-04-19 00:17:55] InvalidUser : The volume on Ok c o i n is very low also
[2017-04-19 00:18:34] InvalidUser : Last time they changed the index the price only went down 5 bucks and it went back up 30 seconds later.
[2017-04-19 00:18:48] Tetsuo : JerryBuss: Bitstamp and/or micmix index
[2017-04-19 00:18:56] InvalidUser : At the tiime Finex was 60 over bitmex price.
[2017-04-19 00:18:58] L9 : What for the hidden orders in the order book are. IMO it is very confusing if you can't rely on orderbook for trend trading
[2017-04-19 00:19:15] Shoba : what
[2017-04-19 00:20:11] InvalidUser : I think this will be a non event. I am keeping my long
[2017-04-19 00:20:16] amaru : so when is the new index kickin in?? @Tetsuo
[2017-04-19 00:21:02] Tetsuo : 4-10h i guess
[2017-04-19 00:22:33] Tetsuo : where are chinese miners sellin nowadays?
[2017-04-19 00:22:53] InvalidUser : Man what a crazy week
[2017-04-19 00:24:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 8000 @ 0.002404
[2017-04-19 00:24:48] Shoba : "people's bank of china clamps down on bitcoin exchanges" - price drops "us banks clamp down on bitcoin exchanges" - prices goes up
[2017-04-19 00:26:03] Shoba : manipulators got too much power
[2017-04-19 00:30:02] dodic : clamp was on the opposite end.
[2017-04-19 00:32:49] frog : Shoba: summary banks clamp down on botcoin
[2017-04-19 00:33:58] InvalidUser : The second to last stage of winning a battle is when they fight you
[2017-04-19 00:35:08] Shoba : is swap still using lending rates (from bitfinex?) for funding fees or is it purely based on difference between swap and index now?
[2017-04-19 00:35:36] dodic : last I heard it is still based partially on finex rates
[2017-04-19 00:36:20] dodic : Some amusing interest rates on BTC now
[2017-04-19 00:38:03] chocolicious : finex btc lending is like 0.5%/day
[2017-04-19 00:38:12] chocolicious : shorts getting paid on bitmex
[2017-04-19 00:40:53] Shoba : wouldn't it be the opposite? shorts would be getting more without that
[2017-04-19 00:41:32] Shoba : shorts are being "lent" btc - which has a high premium - meaning they pay a lot, so they're kinda getting screwed if bitfinex is being used to calculate funding
[2017-04-19 00:41:51] InvalidUser : If Ok coins price drops below our price and then we change indexes our price will jump up.
[2017-04-19 00:42:27] InvalidUser : The are 10 bucks off now and Finex was 60 off
[2017-04-19 00:42:46] chocolicious : Any update on the index?
[2017-04-19 00:42:54] InvalidUser : nope
[2017-04-19 00:44:03] 123abc : add gemini
[2017-04-19 00:44:30] chocolicious : add back finex
[2017-04-19 00:45:11] Sasukeevil : no way
[2017-04-19 00:45:22] rapidgains : ^
[2017-04-19 00:45:34] Sasukeevil : ;)
[2017-04-19 00:45:39] shillosopher : "add back finex" lmao
[2017-04-19 00:45:44] shillosopher : chocolicious: you long?
[2017-04-19 00:46:30] Tetsuo : RxIxP crypto exchanges 2017
[2017-04-19 00:47:00] L9 : Guys, do smth with liquidity 1 trade per hour :D
[2017-04-19 00:53:38] chocolicious : I'm not in position anymore
[2017-04-19 00:53:43] chocolicious : too much uncertainty with index
[2017-04-19 00:53:52] InvalidUser : Tetsuo: This is only for US customers. the other 90% of us have no problem
[2017-04-19 00:53:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1204.5 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-19 00:53:55] chocolicious : But finex is obviously driving the price you're dumb if you don't see that
[2017-04-19 00:54:04] chocolicious : everyone else is just copycat
[2017-04-19 00:58:23] Sasukeevil : Bitcoin please move! You are even moving slower than my grandma
[2017-04-19 01:00:31] Tetsuo : juicy FIAT transfers to my bank account will arrive tomorrow!
[2017-04-19 01:02:40] foobar : what other exchange has lots of btc and usd lending outside of bitfinex?
[2017-04-19 01:11:39] Jsgh : Any word on the index change that was talked about earlier?
[2017-04-19 01:12:31] shillosopher : Jsgh: nothing yet
[2017-04-19 01:13:37] Jsgh : Thanks!
[2017-04-19 01:16:10] Jsgh : /price
[2017-04-19 01:16:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1199.43 (-0.27%) Bitfinex : 1265.90 (0.13%) The Woodchipper : 1211.53 (-0.31%) itBit : 1202.98 (0.14%) Kraken : 1203.00 (0.05%) GDAX : 1200.37 (-0.07%) SLQ : 1 hour, 10 mins```
[2017-04-19 01:17:23] chocolicious : Hey any update on that index?
[2017-04-19 01:17:38] chocolicious : Are you going to add back bitfinex?
[2017-04-19 01:18:25] 123abc : SDC ended up being a scam?
[2017-04-19 01:19:03] chocolicious : Bitfinex is processing withdrawals in HKD and Swiss Franc
[2017-04-19 01:19:29] BitMEX_Arthur : We are evaluating the situation, and will make a statement regarding the index in due time.
[2017-04-19 01:20:32] shillosopher : BitMEX_Arthur: approx ETA for announcement?
[2017-04-19 01:20:48] shillosopher : sam sadi "shortly" but hasn't said anything sicne
[2017-04-19 01:20:52] shillosopher : since*
[2017-04-19 01:21:03] shillosopher : 123abc: SDC was basically a scam from the beginning
[2017-04-19 01:21:52] 123abc : Yeah just saw polo going to delist it
[2017-04-19 01:22:52] InvalidUser : Buckle up
[2017-04-19 01:23:11] InvalidUser : Time to close your shorts
[2017-04-19 01:23:48] shillosopher : InvalidUser: stamp about to push?
[2017-04-19 01:24:02] InvalidUser : Rgr
[2017-04-19 01:24:39] InvalidUser : Finex 2.0 has begun
[2017-04-19 01:24:46] InvalidUser : Ok coin retracing.
[2017-04-19 01:25:03] InvalidUser : Polo is next
[2017-04-19 01:28:42] amaru : i think some sdc got converted to something else... might be regarding that
[2017-04-19 01:29:20] amaru : im not really up to date tho
[2017-04-19 01:32:31] amaru : yeah 77% sdc converted
[2017-04-19 01:32:40] amaru : https://particl.io/
[2017-04-19 01:38:56] InvalidUser : Polo is late to the party but they have figured it out now.
[2017-04-19 01:51:18] chocolicious : Any update on the Index? Are you adding back Bitfinex?
[2017-04-19 01:54:36] Tetsuo : ^ delusional
[2017-04-19 01:57:08] chocolicious : Tetsuo: So you think it will be just Bitstamp and no one else?
[2017-04-19 01:59:34] micmix : it's going to be 50% coinfloor and 50% coinsquare bc all other exchanges are junk
[2017-04-19 02:00:24] chocolicious : 60% LocalBitcoins 50% BitSquare
[2017-04-19 02:00:32] chocolicious : 50/50
[2017-04-19 02:02:44] shillosopher : fuck it. Add finex back to the index. Why not??
[2017-04-19 02:03:43] micmix : no, add Huobi USD instead of finex. last price on Huobi is $987, way cheaper coins than finex
[2017-04-19 02:05:03] InvalidUser : I can see them adding Bitcoin Average
[2017-04-19 02:06:05] micmix : but seriously, most likely it's going to be 50% stamp 50% gdax, similar to tradeblock right now
[2017-04-19 02:07:39] chocolicious : I was thinking 50% finex, 10% OKC, 10% bearstamp, 10% kraken, 10% polo BTC/USDT, 10% GDAX
[2017-04-19 02:11:02] shillosopher : chocolicious: I dunno. Seems a bit low. Maybe do 95% finex and the remaining 5% shared equally by the other exchanges
[2017-04-19 02:11:10] dodic : lol
[2017-04-19 02:11:22] chocolicious : I was just thinking we could do volume
[2017-04-19 02:12:12] shillosopher : InvalidUser: lol well btc really took off just now
[2017-04-19 02:13:48] InvalidUser : shillosopher: Are you long or short
[2017-04-19 02:14:57] shillosopher : InvalidUser: don't have a position open. Waiting on index ann
[2017-04-19 02:15:14] InvalidUser : fair enough
[2017-04-19 02:18:21] InvalidUser : Real thin order book at Gdax
[2017-04-19 02:20:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 201 @ 0.00002746
[2017-04-19 02:22:22] Shoba : @bitmex support will bitfinex be removed from funding rate calculations? lending rate pressures from there represent different risks than the general market
[2017-04-19 02:23:26] longbydefault : /price
[2017-04-19 02:23:28] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1204.98 (0.46%) Bitfinex : 1269.40 (0.28%) The Woodchipper : 1216.39 (0.40%) itBit : 1205.00 (0.17%) Kraken : 1209.00 (0.50%) GDAX : 1202.02 (0.14%) SLQ : 1 hour, 7 mins```
[2017-04-19 02:28:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 5000 @ 0.00002696
[2017-04-19 02:28:08] j8 : i agree, the interest rate component should be dropped
[2017-04-19 02:28:21] PJ : just waiting for this dump to happe
[2017-04-19 02:42:27] JerryBuss : by dump, u mean short squeeze ?
[2017-04-19 02:43:36] chocolicious : I think that's what he means
[2017-04-19 02:53:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.00910
[2017-04-19 02:54:47] JerryBuss : /price
[2017-04-19 02:54:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1206.04 (0.09%) Bitfinex : 1270.00 (0.05%) The Woodchipper : 1216.48 (0.01%) itBit : 1205.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1208.70 (-0.02%) GDAX : 1205.89 (0.32%) SLQ : 31 mins```
[2017-04-19 02:59:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 20 @ 0.00902
[2017-04-19 03:01:10] shillosopher : where is the list of the current exchanges used on the index?
[2017-04-19 03:02:37] InvalidUser : Break out on Gdax
[2017-04-19 03:04:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 300 @ 0.00002620
[2017-04-19 03:19:59] Sasukeevil : btc is trolling :weary:
[2017-04-19 03:32:12] alfaCharlie : /sentiment
[2017-04-19 03:32:15] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 47.20 / 52.80 Daily : 36.27 / 63.73 Weekly : 45.56 / 54.44 Monthly : 47.64 / 52.36```
[2017-04-19 03:32:35] rapidtrades : 2062/2835 (72.73%) blocks signaling! 6048 out of 8064 (75%) blocks are required to activate.
[2017-04-19 03:33:50] frog : charlie needs to increase hash to 3000GH/s to get to 75% by end of period
[2017-04-19 03:34:23] frog : assuming jihan stays the same
[2017-04-19 03:39:21] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-19 03:39:24] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1205.90 (-0.01%) Bitfinex : 1266.60 (-0.27%) The Woodchipper : 1214.51 (-0.16%) itBit : 1205.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1208.95 (0.02%) GDAX : 1206.92 (0.09%) SLQ : 44 mins```
[2017-04-19 03:40:32] rapidtrades : that 'support' at $10.60 about to be obliterated tonight
[2017-04-19 03:40:56] frog : should be but charlie still supporting
[2017-04-19 03:41:04] rapidtrades : should send this shit <$10
[2017-04-19 03:41:15] frog : should go back to $4
[2017-04-19 03:41:27] l3f : le sigh
[2017-04-19 03:41:33] l3f : closed positions because mex is about to fuck with the index again
[2017-04-19 03:41:52] rapidtrades : rly...how
[2017-04-19 03:44:54] shillosopher : rumors are they might remove okc form index
[2017-04-19 03:45:58] rapidtrades : cmon....why
[2017-04-19 03:46:09] rapidtrades : there's hardly anyone left
[2017-04-19 03:46:58] rapidtrades : are they gonna put btce in? cos who else
[2017-04-19 03:48:47] rapidtrades : frog: wont go back to $4 soon unless this crypto bull market ends
[2017-04-19 03:49:37] rapidtrades : speaking of that, everything should be cut in half at least, so overpriced
[2017-04-19 03:49:50] rapidtrades : ETH and dash especially
[2017-04-19 03:51:02] shillosopher : why don't they have btce in the index?
[2017-04-19 03:52:01] rapidtrades : cos its kinda shady
[2017-04-19 03:52:22] shillosopher : and finex isn't? lol
[2017-04-19 03:52:54] rapidtrades : putting finex back in was a mistake
[2017-04-19 03:53:51] rapidtrades : smone is trying to defend $10.60 cos they can't defend segwit
[2017-04-19 03:55:08] rapidtrades : they prolly did this on the way up, used it to pump the price
[2017-04-19 03:55:23] rapidtrades : they don't realise they're pissing into the wind right now
[2017-04-19 03:55:49] l3f : ltc rekt
[2017-04-19 03:56:24] frog : ltc doesnt even need segwit
[2017-04-19 03:56:50] rapidtrades : yep, its just an excuse to fomo
[2017-04-19 03:57:06] frog : yeah scam
[2017-04-19 03:57:11] rapidtrades : hot money from ETH, DSH moved there
[2017-04-19 03:57:21] rapidtrades : but they will get bored soon and move on
[2017-04-19 03:57:36] rapidtrades : bored or broke :)
[2017-04-19 03:58:42] frog : may end up with extension blocks
[2017-04-19 03:59:53] frog : so drew carey can buy his coffee
[2017-04-19 04:00:52] frog : charlie and jihan and wang chuin all become friends again
[2017-04-19 04:05:39] InvalidUser : Has there been and announcement?
[2017-04-19 04:05:40] rapidtrades : idk the segwit crowd look like rapid dogs
[2017-04-19 04:05:59] rapidtrades : rabid*
[2017-04-19 04:06:07] rapidtrades : :)
[2017-04-19 04:07:01] rapidtrades : they think theyre right, wont compromise
[2017-04-19 04:07:17] rapidtrades : they're all so angry too in their replies lol
[2017-04-19 04:07:45] rapidtrades : my posts on r/litecoin routinely get deleted, only bullish stuff is allowed
[2017-04-19 04:07:52] InvalidUser : If Segwit is so great they should start there own coin and take this shit over
[2017-04-19 04:08:31] rapidtrades : exactly, if the tech is so great then create segwit coin from scratch and noone will attack it
[2017-04-19 04:08:49] InvalidUser : I'd short the shit out of that coin
[2017-04-19 04:09:13] rapidtrades : everyone knows its an excuse for fomo....even longs
[2017-04-19 04:09:28] rapidtrades : that's why they're rushing to push it before the hot money gets bored
[2017-04-19 04:09:57] chocolicious : you're dumb
[2017-04-19 04:10:02] chocolicious : segwit is a soft fork
[2017-04-19 04:10:10] chocolicious : if big blocks are so great make your own coin
[2017-04-19 04:10:12] InvalidUser : I think you are right. As soon as the money drys up we will not hear about it again
[2017-04-19 04:10:30] InvalidUser : We are forking with the majority hash rate.
[2017-04-19 04:10:38] InvalidUser : Thanks for the tip
[2017-04-19 04:11:00] chocolicious : please do
[2017-04-19 04:11:12] InvalidUser : What do you want Segwit or Lighting?
[2017-04-19 04:11:46] chocolicious : segwit will enable many improvements, including trustless lightning
[2017-04-19 04:11:47] InvalidUser : Blockstream is looking at extended blocks because it works better
[2017-04-19 04:11:51] micmix : I want Thunder! Or was it Tinder?
[2017-04-19 04:11:52] chocolicious : and schnorr signatures
[2017-04-19 04:12:20] InvalidUser : As soon as BS can start Lighting without segwit they will stop the funding to the core team
[2017-04-19 04:12:42] rapidtrades : problem for the bulls over at litecoin is they thought segwit was a done deal, so they built all their hype around it
[2017-04-19 04:12:57] rapidtrades : they can't easily say now 'oh it doesn't matter'
[2017-04-19 04:13:24] rapidtrades : like bitcorners who jumped from 'chynoya capital flight' to 'etf wall street'
[2017-04-19 04:13:34] rapidtrades : its not easy to shift the narrative now
[2017-04-19 04:14:29] micmix : "digital gold for India" is teh latest I heard
[2017-04-19 04:14:52] rapidtrades : that ETF pump btw was one of the greatets crypto scams in hisotry
[2017-04-19 04:15:13] rapidtrades : dunno who did it but it worked beautifully
[2017-04-19 04:15:14] InvalidUser : SO far (:
[2017-04-19 04:15:18] micmix : nah, altcoin mania in 2014 was the greatest
[2017-04-19 04:15:42] rapidtrades : that had a reason tho, bitcoin gained 10x
[2017-04-19 04:15:53] rapidtrades : and everyone thought theyir coin will be next
[2017-04-19 04:16:04] micmix : completely worthless coins pumped 1000%
[2017-04-19 04:16:13] rapidtrades : the ETF thing came out of nowhere, right after china blew up to replace the hype
[2017-04-19 04:17:02] rapidtrades : noone cared about the ETFs before or after, completely manufactured hype
[2017-04-19 04:20:35] rapidtrades : LTC looks very sick
[2017-04-19 04:21:14] rapidtrades : the doctor just broke the news to its relatives that it wont make it
[2017-04-19 04:23:10] arbitrage101 : i really hope bitfinex can survive at least a month
[2017-04-19 04:23:23] chocolicious : everyone cared just no one believed until right before
[2017-04-19 04:23:23] arbitrage101 : all these news coming out too fast
[2017-04-19 04:23:44] arbitrage101 : large withdrawal will cripple them
[2017-04-19 04:25:05] arbitrage101 : using bitstamp for indexing is really bad choice
[2017-04-19 04:25:17] arbitrage101 : good for short, short term
[2017-04-19 04:25:56] rapidtrades : about half of the china-west gap could be due to finex pushing us higher past month
[2017-04-19 04:26:11] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-04-19 04:26:14] rapidtrades : after they got the news about the WF block and hide it from everyone
[2017-04-19 04:26:18] arbitrage101 : premium will go up a lot more now
[2017-04-19 04:26:51] arbitrage101 : if the funding rate here drop, price will follow finex
[2017-04-19 04:27:05] rapidtrades : i don't think so, now we know why finex is moving up
[2017-04-19 04:27:14] arbitrage101 : and index/mark wont mean anything
[2017-04-19 04:27:17] rapidtrades : it will be hard for the moonkids to justify following
[2017-04-19 04:28:05] rapidtrades : its been two days now and all the good arbers and bot makers made changes to exclude them
[2017-04-19 04:28:05] chocolicious : premium doesn't matter because there is no volume on the other exchanges
[2017-04-19 04:28:18] chocolicious : Finex is the only one that matters
[2017-04-19 04:28:18] rapidtrades : the rest will go broke on the next divergence
[2017-04-19 04:28:31] arbitrage101 : there is no volume on other exchanges cuz they sux anyway
[2017-04-19 04:28:57] chocolicious : the banks are coming for bitcoin and it will make the price moon
[2017-04-19 04:29:00] rapidtrades : gox had the largest volume by far in its last days
[2017-04-19 04:29:11] rapidtrades : volume is high when pppl are speculating
[2017-04-19 04:29:31] chocolicious : the volume is super low everywhere but finex is still the only one doing real volume
[2017-04-19 04:29:33] rapidtrades : banks are certainly not coming for bitcoin
[2017-04-19 04:29:37] chocolicious : the rest is a joke
[2017-04-19 04:29:43] rapidtrades : finex is a shitshow
[2017-04-19 04:29:50] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-04-19 04:29:52] arbitrage101 : i am scare
[2017-04-19 04:29:53] chocolicious : finex is totally solvent
[2017-04-19 04:30:00] rapidtrades : kraken just announced bunch of new banking options yday
[2017-04-19 04:30:01] arbitrage101 : shit ton of coin stucked there lending
[2017-04-19 04:30:18] rapidtrades : coinbase is fine, stamp is fine
[2017-04-19 04:30:23] chocolicious : finex is having banking issues first because they are the only ones moving real moneya round
[2017-04-19 04:30:31] rapidtrades : only exchanges with problems are criminals
[2017-04-19 04:30:44] chocolicious : they will resolve with a new swiss bank and all the fud will be lifted
[2017-04-19 04:31:06] rapidtrades : if they haven't escaped to bolivia or smwhere, their CEOs will be in jail soon
[2017-04-19 04:31:11] chocolicious : market maker is keeping price low on other exchanges so no one dumps
[2017-04-19 04:31:41] arbitrage101 : wonder how they do their accounting book
[2017-04-19 04:31:44] arbitrage101 : or audit for investors
[2017-04-19 04:31:56] arbitrage101 : criminal offense for lieing to investors
[2017-04-19 04:32:27] rapidtrades : they could've been short coin all these years just like gox
[2017-04-19 04:32:57] rapidtrades : so they made the hax to distract
[2017-04-19 04:33:13] chocolicious : okay you tell yourself whatever story you want we'll see
[2017-04-19 04:33:15] arbitrage101 : your logic makes little sense
[2017-04-19 04:33:27] rapidtrades : i don't see how u lose 50% of coins in this day of crypto, its ridiculous
[2017-04-19 04:34:00] chocolicious : they paid everyone back, Gox people still waiting, funds tied up incourt
[2017-04-19 04:34:01] rapidtrades : all other actions point to crime, it would make sense that the hack was an inside job too
[2017-04-19 04:34:17] chocolicious : it was the gov't
[2017-04-19 04:34:19] rapidtrades : chocolicious: they didn't pay me back bitch, i took 25% hit, f*ck u shill
[2017-04-19 04:34:28] chocolicious : that's because you have weak hands
[2017-04-19 04:34:35] chocolicious : like a little bitch
[2017-04-19 04:34:43] rapidtrades : WHO HAS THEIR MONEY STUCK IN FINEX?
[2017-04-19 04:34:47] rapidtrades : not me
[2017-04-19 04:34:51] rapidgains : lol
[2017-04-19 04:34:53] arbitrage101 : i bought a lot at .25.0.35
[2017-04-19 04:34:57] chocolicious : not me, crypto works fine
[2017-04-19 04:35:36] chocolicious : and finex is processing withdrawals in HKD and Swiss Franc
[2017-04-19 04:35:45] rapidtrades : wow this f*Cking shill
[2017-04-19 04:35:49] rapidtrades : east cocks
[2017-04-19 04:35:50] chocolicious : banks are coming for BTC
[2017-04-19 04:35:51] arbitrage101 : are they still processing withdrawal in fiat?
[2017-04-19 04:35:59] rapidtrades : they are not
[2017-04-19 04:36:00] chocolicious : All order books will be bought up
[2017-04-19 04:36:11] chocolicious : They are processing withdrawals in fiat
[2017-04-19 04:36:11] arbitrage101 : yes, it appears all exchanges will get hit soon
[2017-04-19 04:36:19] chocolicious : Hong Kong Dollar and Swiss Franc
[2017-04-19 04:36:31] arbitrage101 : hkd is pegged to usd
[2017-04-19 04:36:48] chocolicious : They are processing it
[2017-04-19 04:36:53] arbitrage101 : good then
[2017-04-19 04:36:55] chocolicious : They sent transactions today
[2017-04-19 04:37:13] arbitrage101 : i just want to get my money out later lol
[2017-04-19 04:37:20] arbitrage101 : dont care what happen later
[2017-04-19 04:37:31] chocolicious : and they told the investors that they are solvent in an email today
[2017-04-19 04:37:37] arbitrage101 : o
[2017-04-19 04:37:41] arbitrage101 : are you investor?
[2017-04-19 04:37:46] arbitrage101 : where you get the info
[2017-04-19 04:37:46] chocolicious : no but it was on reddit
[2017-04-19 04:37:53] micmix : it's in the email, must be true then lol
[2017-04-19 04:38:13] arbitrage101 : i got a referal link from an investor
[2017-04-19 04:38:19] arbitrage101 : last week
[2017-04-19 04:38:22] rapidtrades : BANKS COMING FOR BITCOIN EVERYONE http://blog.kraken.com/post/159707968297/kraken-adds-usd-gbp-and-eur-funding-options
[2017-04-19 04:38:25] arbitrage101 : fee free trading at finex
[2017-04-19 04:38:36] rapidtrades : (literally happened yday ^^^)
[2017-04-19 04:38:49] chocolicious : kraken does no volume it's a joke
[2017-04-19 04:38:51] arbitrage101 : so kraken stopping usd also?
[2017-04-19 04:39:02] chocolicious : they don't have million dollar wires
[2017-04-19 04:39:17] chocolicious : but if they're the only game in town they will
[2017-04-19 04:40:06] rapidtrades : finex has volume cos ppl are speculating on its blow up, u idiot
[2017-04-19 04:40:18] rapidtrades : ppl speculate when times are uncertain
[2017-04-19 04:40:29] chocolicious : finex has volume because that is where real traders trade
[2017-04-19 04:40:38] chocolicious : it's the only orderbook with liquidity
[2017-04-19 04:40:48] rapidtrades : well not u obviously, cos u don't have money there
[2017-04-19 04:40:56] rapidtrades : f*cking trailer trash
[2017-04-19 04:41:06] arbitrage101 : this is crypto, time is always uncertain
[2017-04-19 04:41:30] Sasukeevil : what will happen if bitflyer is buying?
[2017-04-19 04:41:35] chocolicious : whatever man you guys fud your shorts all you want, you're going to get rekt
[2017-04-19 04:41:49] rapidtrades : chocolicious <<< guys finex is great i just don't have money there cos its the best exchange where all the traders are at
[2017-04-19 04:41:54] chocolicious : the 20300 BTC short on finex are going to get rekt
[2017-04-19 04:42:13] chocolicious : My money there is in crypto
[2017-04-19 04:42:18] chocolicious : I can withdraw crypto
[2017-04-19 04:42:20] rapidtrades : ha! idiot
[2017-04-19 04:42:27] micmix : I can bet that big shorts on finex are hedges, they can't get rekt
[2017-04-19 04:42:29] rapidtrades : come back to me in a week
[2017-04-19 04:42:30] chocolicious : mymoney here is in crypto too
[2017-04-19 04:42:42] rapidtrades : 'i can withdraw in crypto' <<< famous last words
[2017-04-19 04:42:48] arbitrage101 : micmix: close my hedge when they stop usd deposit
[2017-04-19 04:42:55] arbitrage101 : not really worth the risk anymore
[2017-04-19 04:43:00] arbitrage101 : having money on finex
[2017-04-19 04:43:06] chocolicious : rapid how underwater is your short
[2017-04-19 04:43:32] micmix : arbitrage101: smart decision, I don't have anything there either
[2017-04-19 04:43:38] chocolicious : how's it going to feel in 7 hours when you're paying fees on an underwater short
[2017-04-19 04:44:21] micmix : hedging doesn't really work if you can't withdraw real money
[2017-04-19 04:44:32] chocolicious : good thing you can
[2017-04-19 04:45:05] chocolicious : what part of you can withdraw hong kong dollars and swiss francs are you having trouble with
[2017-04-19 04:45:25] rapidtrades : wow this guy shilling hard huh....let me guess 'equity investor'? LOL
[2017-04-19 04:45:42] chocolicious : shilling facts
[2017-04-19 04:45:49] chocolicious : you're here lying to people
[2017-04-19 04:46:03] chocolicious : meanwhile bitmex removed the exchange that is actually moving the price everywhere
[2017-04-19 04:46:09] rapidtrades : how much of a piece will u get for ur 'investment'? made through an offshore company that doesn't entitle u to anything?
[2017-04-19 04:46:13] chocolicious : and isn't removing okcoin for the same reason
[2017-04-19 04:46:23] chocolicious : I am not an investor
[2017-04-19 04:46:35] rapidtrades : no ur just a moron
[2017-04-19 04:46:41] chocolicious : you are hurting on your short
[2017-04-19 04:46:49] chocolicious : I'm sorry you're about to get rekt
[2017-04-19 04:46:57] chocolicious : I hope you're not overleveraged
[2017-04-19 04:47:37] rapidtrades : ppl like u they come, they go broke or go to jail
[2017-04-19 04:47:43] rapidtrades : then u never hear from them again
[2017-04-19 04:47:48] chocolicious : okay rapid
[2017-04-19 04:47:51] chocolicious : gl
[2017-04-19 04:47:53] rapidtrades : ur a nobody
[2017-04-19 04:48:07] chocolicious : double down rapid
[2017-04-19 05:13:33] PrinceSalmon : without mark in this chat, no charts, no trade and just anger - longest 24 hrs of my short trollbox life --
[2017-04-19 05:16:00] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-19 05:26:18] podizzle3k : so is okcoin going to remain in the index?
[2017-04-19 05:26:34] podizzle3k : i just logged on
[2017-04-19 05:27:10] rugu : rapidtrades: where is the panic cause of 72% segwit
[2017-04-19 05:28:22] shillosopher : ^
[2017-04-19 05:30:01] podizzle3k : i was here longing ltc from .004 to .007 he was screaming from the rafters how overpriced it was then i dont know how you guys can take him serious
[2017-04-19 05:30:17] podizzle3k : he has contempt for the markets that leads to bias and bad decision making
[2017-04-19 05:30:24] podizzle3k : a neutral view is much better
[2017-04-19 05:31:34] podizzle3k : so no official statement on okcoin being removed from xbt index yet?
[2017-04-19 05:31:40] podizzle3k : guess they need to make it more official
[2017-04-19 05:31:48] shillosopher : pretty sure the question is meant to get him riled up lol
[2017-04-19 05:37:01] frog : some interesting tweets from wang chun
[2017-04-19 05:37:27] frog : https://twitter.com/f2pool_wangchun
[2017-04-19 05:40:24] zanza : miners are large holders benefit the most for increase in value to Bitcoin
[2017-04-19 05:40:42] zanza : exhanges just benefit from volume, developers benefit from salary?
[2017-04-19 05:41:45] chocolicious : large miners benefit from centralizing the network and making it slower and more difficult to validate and mine on top of new blocks
[2017-04-19 05:42:10] chocolicious : especially when they are paid by state central banks to fud
[2017-04-19 05:43:27] podizzle3k : haha we got ourselves a core shill
[2017-04-19 05:43:30] podizzle3k : uasf! uasf!
[2017-04-19 05:43:39] podizzle3k : i was surprised how few of them there are here
[2017-04-19 05:44:59] rugu : its funny how a coin using a technology that epitomes decentralization, but yet is getting rekt cause of centralized miners
[2017-04-19 05:45:27] chocolicious : It's not getting rekt
[2017-04-19 05:45:36] zanza : is 1MB really that big a block in 2017?
[2017-04-19 05:45:38] chocolicious : but if the miners got what they wanted it would, good thing they won't
[2017-04-19 05:45:40] podizzle3k : the problem is not the miners the miners always been the same
[2017-04-19 05:45:46] zanza : same blocksize as 6 years ago ?
[2017-04-19 05:45:56] podizzle3k : the problem originated when the btc devs got bought out by a private corp with an agenda
[2017-04-19 05:46:09] podizzle3k : and that agenda is to push users onto a 2nd layer chain
[2017-04-19 05:46:23] chocolicious : lol you're so meme'd
[2017-04-19 05:46:32] podizzle3k : its the truth
[2017-04-19 05:46:45] podizzle3k : what do you know about blockstream and their chain tech liquid
[2017-04-19 05:46:45] chocolicious : second layer will be amazing
[2017-04-19 05:46:51] chocolicious : we don't need bigger blocks for a long time
[2017-04-19 05:46:57] l3f : there's nothing wrong with second layer tech
[2017-04-19 05:47:05] podizzle3k : will it be amazing? like paypal and western union amazing?
[2017-04-19 05:47:06] zanza : really? 1$ fee is ok ?
[2017-04-19 05:47:15] podizzle3k : chargebacks and KYC amazing?
[2017-04-19 05:47:16] chocolicious : no like decentralized micropayments amazing
[2017-04-19 05:47:20] chocolicious : you're just dumb
[2017-04-19 05:47:24] chocolicious : short bitcoin get rekt
[2017-04-19 05:47:39] podizzle3k : sorry im not emotional just rational
[2017-04-19 05:48:08] chocolicious : you're not rational
[2017-04-19 05:48:10] podizzle3k : uasf! uasf!
[2017-04-19 05:48:13] podizzle3k : lol
[2017-04-19 05:48:14] zanza : lets try to have a more understanding attitude to see other point of view
[2017-04-19 05:48:17] chocolicious : you just don't understand decentralization
[2017-04-19 05:48:22] zanza : not an argument
[2017-04-19 05:48:27] chocolicious : and youdon't understand consensus
[2017-04-19 05:48:48] chocolicious : and you don't know how bitcoin works and how long it takes to transfer and validate blocks
[2017-04-19 05:48:51] podizzle3k : shouting uasf is like if everyone who thought there should be bigger blocks just called for 51% attack
[2017-04-19 05:49:01] chocolicious : how the chinese firewall slows propagation
[2017-04-19 05:49:11] chocolicious : how essential it is that you be able to run a node on TOR
[2017-04-19 05:49:27] chocolicious : and how unnecessary it is to hardfork to bigger blocks right now
[2017-04-19 05:49:39] chocolicious : you just don't know anything
[2017-04-19 05:49:53] chocolicious : you don't know how bitcoin works and why it's valuable
[2017-04-19 05:50:01] zanza : SegWit gigves you 1.9MB block at the size of 4MB block
[2017-04-19 05:50:05] podizzle3k : you know how you can tell when one side of a debate is losing. when they start hurling attacks
[2017-04-19 05:51:02] podizzle3k : all i see lately is memes about jihan and roger ver
[2017-04-19 05:51:05] podizzle3k : its sad
[2017-04-19 05:51:21] zanza : yeah, BU people troll GMax pretty hard too