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[2015-11-28 21:01:43] rapidtrades : sounds creep
[2015-11-28 21:01:47] rapidtrades : *y
[2015-11-28 21:02:32] Swedishnut : it is a comedy about a kid who fakes being sick for his ninth time.
[2015-11-28 21:04:05] rapidtrades : are u faking beign sick
[2015-11-28 21:05:33] Swedishnut : nah the kid is wanting to enjoy the sunshine in May of his senior year. Pulls all the stops and tricks to enjoy Chicago before his parents get back home from work at 6pm
[2015-11-28 21:05:36] SnackyCoins : rapidtrades: you should watch it, nearly every comedy show has made a reference to it
[2015-11-28 21:05:55] Swedishnut : yeah I don't want to give anything away it is a must see
[2015-11-28 21:06:12] rapidtrades : ok i'll take a look
[2015-11-28 21:06:18] SnackyCoins : there's whole scenes in family guy copied straight out of the movie
[2015-11-28 21:08:35] rapidtrades : :)
[2015-11-28 21:39:10] rapidtrades : can we crash below $350 so I can go to bed plz
[2015-11-28 22:06:06] irbbqu : Dont jinx it
[2015-11-28 22:18:24] justinlooking : shame `bvol24h` isn't tradable
[2015-11-28 22:55:49] oDSPfgen38 : is it normal that when I set up as much contracts as possible with my 0.01 balance and use it for a $10-move, I only make 0.01 BTC?
[2015-11-28 22:56:21] oDSPfgen38 : *"only" ;) or am I doing something wrong here.
[2015-11-28 22:59:33] wurstgelee : depends on contract. $10 would be ~250%+ on xbt24h
[2015-11-28 23:01:41] oDSPfgen38 : yeah I am on xbt24h
[2015-11-28 23:01:44] oDSPfgen38 : let me ask different
[2015-11-28 23:03:15] oDSPfgen38 : if I go all in in Long with my 0.01 BTC balance at $351 and close it at $361. How many contracts & profit would that be?
[2015-11-28 23:03:41] oDSPfgen38 : Somehow the calculator is messing around with me it seems. or I'm stupid.
[2015-11-28 23:04:26] wurstgelee : profit would be more than 250%
[2015-11-28 23:04:58] wurstgelee : so 0.025+
[2015-11-28 23:05:04] oDSPfgen38 : okay
[2015-11-28 23:05:05] oDSPfgen38 : Mh.
[2015-11-28 23:05:44] oDSPfgen38 : People told me you can actually make money with 100x and a 0.01 Balance here. So I would need like a 0.10 Balance to make it count on 1 position to receive good profit
[2015-11-28 23:06:14] oDSPfgen38 : but 0.025+ BTC profit isn't worth the hassle for me with a 0.01 BTC balance :p
[2015-11-28 23:08:04] BitMEX_Sam : 250% in a day is pretty significant.
[2015-11-28 23:08:22] BitMEX_Sam : But as always you have to risk to obtain reward.
[2015-11-28 23:08:30] oDSPfgen38 : yeah
[2015-11-28 23:11:49] oDSPfgen38 : when I wanna set up a short for a future high price, it only let's me use half of my balance and I gotta add the rest manually to the existing order. is that normal?
[2015-11-28 23:12:33] oDSPfgen38 : oh now it worked. sometimes ot works, sometimes it just doesn't.
[2015-11-28 23:12:51] BitMEX_Sam : I believe there were some issues in the initial risk checks but I believe that was fixed
[2015-11-28 23:13:06] oDSPfgen38 : 10 seconds after I tried again it worked.
[2015-11-28 23:13:08] BitMEX_Sam : I'll check when Wally's online again
[2015-11-28 23:13:35] oDSPfgen38 : the order controls tab always acts weird
[2015-11-28 23:13:43] BitMEX_Sam : We have a comprensive set of risk checks that execute when you place an order that ensure that you not only have the margin required, but that you wouldn't get insta-liquidated
[2015-11-28 23:13:50] BitMEX_Sam : Weird how?
[2015-11-28 23:14:01] oDSPfgen38 : It rejects and says I don't have the funds.
[2015-11-28 23:14:11] oDSPfgen38 : like it demands double the amount it would even need.
[2015-11-28 23:14:17] oDSPfgen38 : or something.
[2015-11-28 23:14:26] oDSPfgen38 : then I tried again, worked. randomly.
[2015-11-28 23:14:54] BitMEX_Sam : I'll check the history.
[2015-11-28 23:16:05] oDSPfgen38 : yeah, just before this open order got accepted, the error showed up on the try before.
[2015-11-28 23:17:07] BitMEX_Sam : It does have something to do with the current price, though, so it is very likely this is normal
[2015-11-28 23:17:21] BitMEX_Sam : Depending on how far you are from the mark price, the system will reject if you wouldn't be able to actually afford the execution
[2015-11-28 23:17:35] oDSPfgen38 : anyway, exactly the same settings after that error, tried again, worked.
[2015-11-28 23:17:46] oDSPfgen38 : (99% balance to put into)
[2015-11-28 23:17:56] BitMEX_Sam : I see you canceled an order just before that - that was likely it
[2015-11-28 23:18:01] BitMEX_Sam : You can't open more orders than you can afford
[2015-11-28 23:18:15] oDSPfgen38 : let me try again for fun :)
[2015-11-28 23:18:38] podizzle3k : sam when you change order options from cross to isolate it is the equivalent to checking isolate on all your positions?
[2015-11-28 23:18:50] BitMEX_Sam : podizzle3k: No, only on the contract you're actually viewing
[2015-11-28 23:18:57] podizzle3k : right yes ok
[2015-11-28 23:19:04] podizzle3k : thx
[2015-11-28 23:19:20] BitMEX_Sam : Looks good oDSPfgen38
[2015-11-28 23:19:22] oDSPfgen38 : "You can't open more orders than you can afford" < already had this error several time with no active orders
[2015-11-28 23:19:38] oDSPfgen38 : now it again worked fine. hm. must be just me then.
[2015-11-28 23:25:05] ethexio : When do affiliate users show up? I've had at least one person say they signed up with my link. But still shows 0.
[2015-11-28 23:25:21] ethexio : Maybe there are fibbers
[2015-11-28 23:25:25] BitMEX_Sam : ethexio: Should be more or less immediate
[2015-11-28 23:27:34] ethexio : That's what I figured.. Little fibbers..
[2015-11-28 23:29:03] ethexio : Is it registered right away @BitMEX_Sam , or once they deposit/trade?
[2015-11-28 23:29:35] BitMEX_Sam : Right away.
[2015-11-28 23:29:46] ethexio : K, thanks .
[2015-11-28 23:30:14] ethexio : Fibbers...
[2015-11-29 00:13:12] Swedishnut : round xyz on 2330?
[2015-11-29 00:13:50] messiaen8844 : bulls vs 2330... round 15, FIGHT!
[2015-11-29 00:16:20] irbbqu : hehe, looks promising so far.
[2015-11-29 00:16:35] messiaen8844 : if it gets to 2340, then real FOMO might kick in
[2015-11-29 00:17:49] justinlooking : did rapidtrades get short again?
[2015-11-29 00:17:58] Swedishnut : cyber monday might be gearing up some extra volume as shoppers get ready to find savings, deals, give-aways
[2015-11-29 00:18:24] irbbqu : Shoppin with BTC? Deals?
[2015-11-29 00:18:24] wurstgelee : justinlooking: yep ;)
[2015-11-29 00:18:44] messiaen8844 : wish he had tons of BTC to rocket fuel this
[2015-11-29 00:18:45] messiaen8844 : lol
[2015-11-29 00:19:46] Swedishnut : I bought 100$ of shaving and good soaps for .168
[2015-11-29 00:20:21] Swedishnut : http://theholyblack.com/ SBS25 code for 25% off
[2015-11-29 03:19:47] ethexio : Whee
[2015-11-29 05:09:44] brynsolomon : hi to clarify DPE, on the daily XBT24H if my margin falls below 0.5% then i'll be liquidated. if the fill is better than bankruptcy i won't get the money back, right?
[2015-11-29 05:15:40] SnackyCoins : if you're liquidated it's gone, DPE only affects profitable accounts
[2015-11-29 05:21:20] brynsolomon : ok thanks. so bitmex takes an assumed cut for the liquidations, which then goes to back into bankruptcy pool
[2015-11-29 05:21:45] brynsolomon : eg if i they liquidate last 0.5% margin at midpoint, they'll take the 0.5% from you anyway
[2015-11-29 05:21:50] j8 : brynsolomon: yes, the remainder goes to offset other losses
[2015-11-29 05:22:10] brynsolomon : ok thanks. just testing a strategy wanted to triple check all my assumptions
[2015-11-29 05:22:34] j8 : yeah, it's sort of a penalty for being liquidated. usually better to trade out
[2015-11-29 05:22:52] BitMEX_Wally : Thanks j8, you're correct as usual
[2015-11-29 05:23:05] brynsolomon : j8: always find you very helpful on this trollbox. cheers mate
[2015-11-29 05:23:14] j8 : no problem
[2015-11-29 06:12:45] SnackyCoins : just took 2k contracts, aprox 7.15btc of value
[2015-11-29 06:12:58] SnackyCoins : fees paid? about 40 cents
[2015-11-29 06:13:12] SnackyCoins : 40 cents worth of btc, not 40 bitcents
[2015-11-29 06:13:45] SnackyCoins : imo that is basically free
[2015-11-29 06:14:55] SnackyCoins : oh whoops, too late for headmath, it's more like $1.20 lol
[2015-11-29 06:15:24] SnackyCoins : still great for $2500 worth of buying
[2015-11-29 06:15:45] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-11-29 06:55:16] rapidtrades : how it goin fellas?
[2015-11-29 07:37:57] rapidtrades : no trades in almost 1 hour
[2015-11-29 08:30:47] rapidtrades : the three stages of depression :
[2015-11-29 08:30:52] rapidtrades : 1. BUY THE DIP
[2015-11-29 08:30:57] rapidtrades : 2. GET REKT
[2015-11-29 08:31:00] rapidtrades : 3. PROFIT
[2015-11-29 08:53:42] rapidtrades : it's impossible to get filled today
[2015-11-29 08:54:21] rapidtrades : only the bots are trading
[2015-11-29 08:59:04] micmix : poor bots can't get even a minute of rest :-)
[2015-11-29 09:46:10] rapidtrades : micmix: uck em
[2015-11-29 09:48:09] micmix : rapidtrades: you can make some money of them: buy from 6k bot, wait until the price goes up $2 then to the same bot. you could've done that couple of times today if you are as fast as your username suggest
[2015-11-29 09:48:24] micmix : * then sell to the same bot
[2015-11-29 09:48:48] rapidtrades : micmix: do u know how much it costs to market buy
[2015-11-29 09:50:58] micmix : yes, 0.15% both ways. anything over $0.50 price difference puts you in profit
[2015-11-29 09:51:18] rapidtrades : good luck with that strategy
[2015-11-29 09:51:57] rapidtrades : u should try it and let me know how it goes
[2015-11-29 09:55:54] micmix : I'm not fast like rapidtrades, I let bots do the work :-)
[2015-11-29 09:56:15] rapidtrades : micmix: nice try bot runner :)
[2015-11-29 09:59:41] zanza : Swedishnut: did you ever talk to them about investment into the site?
[2015-11-29 10:01:00] rapidtrades : lol I'm starting to get flashes of that pop-up window ''your order has been filled''
[2015-11-29 10:01:21] rapidtrades : it feels like a dream the last time I got filled
[2015-11-29 10:01:27] rapidtrades : so long ago, so far away....
[2015-11-29 10:26:30] rapidtrades : cmon trade guys....use it or lose it
[2015-11-29 10:30:57] zanza : everyone is waiting for that 400 spike
[2015-11-29 10:32:57] rapidtrades : zanza: not everyone :)
[2015-11-29 10:33:29] rapidtrades : btw there's still a premium
[2015-11-29 10:35:06] zanza : it as just 360
[2015-11-29 10:35:33] rapidtrades : what are u saying
[2015-11-29 10:57:09] rapidtrades : zanza: thoughts re: settlement price
[2015-11-29 11:01:25] rapidtrades : cmon let's start that calc
[2015-11-29 11:43:04] justinlooking : nnom nom nom
[2015-11-29 11:44:09] thehawthorne : lol
[2015-11-29 11:44:19] thehawthorne : Choo Choo
[2015-11-29 11:44:31] justinlooking : all aboard
[2015-11-29 11:44:42] JACOBcze : yes zanza
[2015-11-29 11:44:44] justinlooking : oh finex u got the pwoer
[2015-11-29 11:46:07] JACOBcze : wait isnt settlements in like 15 minutes
[2015-11-29 11:46:13] justinlooking : yer
[2015-11-29 11:47:01] thehawthorne : HAHA
[2015-11-29 11:47:02] thehawthorne : shit
[2015-11-29 11:47:14] psyfur : ugh i was gonna go long hard on the daily just after settlement
[2015-11-29 11:47:14] thehawthorne : can't buy into it
[2015-11-29 11:47:15] thehawthorne : lel
[2015-11-29 11:47:20] psyfur : they started pumping half an hour too early...
[2015-11-29 11:47:28] JACOBcze : rapidtrades u shorting?
[2015-11-29 11:47:36] justinlooking : course he is
[2015-11-29 11:47:38] thehawthorne : 2550 incoming
[2015-11-29 11:47:40] JACOBcze : FeelsGoodMan
[2015-11-29 11:51:32] habibi : everyday the rapidshares indicator works better and better
[2015-11-29 11:51:34] habibi : ty man
[2015-11-29 11:51:41] habibi : rapidtrades * :D
[2015-11-29 11:51:53] justinlooking : `<3`
[2015-11-29 11:52:13] podizzle3k : woohoo profit on 24hr
[2015-11-29 11:52:27] podizzle3k : are we in for anothe rcrazy day
[2015-11-29 11:54:53] JACOBcze : yes but be careful
[2015-11-29 11:55:21] psyfur : ugh this was the worst possible timing for pump
[2015-11-29 11:55:25] JACOBcze : this is the structure where all the retard shorts from the overall pump structure get squeezed
[2015-11-29 11:55:33] JACOBcze : the dump should happen after though
[2015-11-29 11:55:47] podizzle3k : haha the bitmex pump n dump?
[2015-11-29 11:55:50] podizzle3k : i dont think so
[2015-11-29 11:56:06] podizzle3k : or you mean just across the board
[2015-11-29 11:56:18] podizzle3k : one last squeeze before huge dump yea
[2015-11-29 11:56:22] podizzle3k : seen that one before
[2015-11-29 11:56:22] JACOBcze : i mean pump from 230 to 500 happened, then dump to 300 happened
[2015-11-29 11:56:28] JACOBcze : obviously there has to be bounce now
[2015-11-29 11:56:48] JACOBcze : it continuing in another leg up right away sounds a bit far-fetched though so i do expect dump after
[2015-11-29 11:57:07] JACOBcze : 400 seems like a good top but predicting that is sketchy
[2015-11-29 11:57:51] JACOBcze : like literally the easiest thing in trading u should learn is to always expect price going both ways
[2015-11-29 11:58:00] JACOBcze : never take a subjective stand
[2015-11-29 11:59:31] JACOBcze : that 32k sell order though
[2015-11-29 12:01:46] rapidtrades : boom..quiest scalp to date
[2015-11-29 12:01:55] rapidtrades : quickest*
[2015-11-29 12:05:22] JACOBcze : when can u trade 24h again
[2015-11-29 12:05:37] podizzle3k : immediately?
[2015-11-29 12:05:46] JACOBcze : This instrument is closed; trading is suspended. This is a daily contract. It will relist shortly.
[2015-11-29 12:05:50] justinlooking : JACOBcze: about 10 secs after settlement it reopens
[2015-11-29 12:05:53] rapidtrades : refresh
[2015-11-29 12:06:00] JACOBcze : omg -_-
[2015-11-29 12:06:04] rapidtrades : ...toool
[2015-11-29 12:06:09] podizzle3k : i didnt need to refresh
[2015-11-29 12:06:11] JACOBcze : rapidtrades pls
[2015-11-29 12:08:42] rapidtrades : so where are we going next guys? poll
[2015-11-29 12:09:04] podizzle3k : trending up
[2015-11-29 12:10:03] JACOBcze : i did my prediction at 320 and still not changing it
[2015-11-29 12:10:41] rapidtrades : it's really tempting to rollover my short here...we're like $4 above settlement now
[2015-11-29 12:10:56] rapidtrades : but the charts look awful
[2015-11-29 12:11:01] JACOBcze : of course it is, you're rapidtrades the bear legend
[2015-11-29 12:11:20] podizzle3k : on 7d you mean?
[2015-11-29 12:11:26] rapidtrades : I'm not a bear stupid, I just don't think two green days make a trend
[2015-11-29 12:11:29] podizzle3k : its even on 24hr
[2015-11-29 12:11:39] rapidtrades : 2h looks very bullish
[2015-11-29 12:11:50] podizzle3k : saving that quote
[2015-11-29 12:11:52] SnackyCoins : you mean 5 green days?
[2015-11-29 12:11:56] habibi : rapidtrades: please dont
[2015-11-29 12:12:02] SnackyCoins : cause there's 5 green daily candles in a row now
[2015-11-29 12:12:05] habibi : if u say bullish we fckin go down:/
[2015-11-29 12:12:07] JACOBcze : habibi pls
[2015-11-29 12:12:28] JACOBcze : he's not saying bullish
[2015-11-29 12:12:30] JACOBcze : oh he is
[2015-11-29 12:12:31] 24hourz : I think we are on the up trend but right now we will see a small correction back to spot price on the 24h contracts
[2015-11-29 12:12:31] JACOBcze : fuck
[2015-11-29 12:12:31] rapidtrades : 5? I see 3...yesterday we were flat
[2015-11-29 12:12:41] rapidtrades : today's not even closed yet
[2015-11-29 12:13:06] SnackyCoins : on okcn and btce the candle closed green yesterday
[2015-11-29 12:13:27] podizzle3k : guys clearly its been only one green day friday was a complete dump
[2015-11-29 12:13:31] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: nope looking at btc-e mt4 right now and ur wrong
[2015-11-29 12:13:36] podizzle3k : oh wait it went up $30+?
[2015-11-29 12:13:37] podizzle3k : hmm
[2015-11-29 12:14:10] SnackyCoins : 11-28 btce O351.92 H354.45 L345 C353.25
[2015-11-29 12:14:10] rapidtrades : anyway I'll give it a few hours and come back later....need a break
[2015-11-29 12:14:27] SnackyCoins : close is higher than open bro
[2015-11-29 12:14:30] SnackyCoins : thats a green candle
[2015-11-29 12:14:46] JACOBcze : im gonna miss you rapid trades ;-; /
[2015-11-29 12:14:48] rapidtrades : I see 352>351, bro
[2015-11-29 12:15:01] rapidtrades : brb
[2015-11-29 12:15:43] SnackyCoins : your daily close must be a local time
[2015-11-29 12:15:49] SnackyCoins : like midnight locally
[2015-11-29 12:16:01] SnackyCoins : on MT4 or something
[2015-11-29 12:17:04] SnackyCoins : https://www.tradingview.com/x/60WdGmsC/
[2015-11-29 12:18:35] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: mt4 never uses local time, its prolly trading view that does that that...anyway who cares...its just $2...brb
[2015-11-29 12:24:27] SnackyCoins : my tradingview chart there is using local time 8) but the plugin page i watch doesn't
[2015-11-29 12:25:37] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/AgKDK7g.png
[2015-11-29 12:31:28] zanza : finex led that rally
[2015-11-29 12:34:20] habibi : rapidtrades: so ur today call is long definitely?
[2015-11-29 12:34:21] justinlooking : anyone use ig.com for btcusd?
[2015-11-29 12:39:12] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: Why would you? You only get 13x leverage and the spread is > $2.50
[2015-11-29 12:39:46] JACOBcze : so one more leg up or we're gonna dump
[2015-11-29 12:39:48] JACOBcze : thats what i feel now
[2015-11-29 12:40:01] HotDogs : JACOBcze: Start hitting some bids
[2015-11-29 12:40:26] JACOBcze : when does daily on wisdom close?
[2015-11-29 12:41:32] habibi : 24 @utc time
[2015-11-29 12:41:36] habibi : 00:00
[2015-11-29 12:41:49] JACOBcze : thats britain zone right
[2015-11-29 12:42:05] habibi : yea at winter time
[2015-11-29 12:42:24] BitMEX_Wally : In 23 hours and 17 minutes time
[2015-11-29 12:44:22] justinlooking : BitMEX_Wally: lots of reasons, they been around for donkey's years, fiat deposits, credit limits (LOL!), in UK spreadbetting is 100% tax free
[2015-11-29 12:44:47] SnackyCoins : literally never heard of that exchange, ever
[2015-11-29 12:45:01] SnackyCoins : but then again there's lots of exchanges i haven't heard of i guess
[2015-11-29 12:45:20] SnackyCoins : mostly chinese 8) wouldnt trade at any of them
[2015-11-29 12:46:34] justinlooking : it's not really an exchange, it's a bookmaker
[2015-11-29 12:46:52] justinlooking : for true degenerates ;)
[2015-11-29 12:47:05] oDSPfgen38 : now the usual way down again :)
[2015-11-29 12:47:29] oDSPfgen38 : hope not too much guys get rekt with hopium
[2015-11-29 12:48:02] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: BitMEX has been offering Bitcoin trading products longer than IG.com has
[2015-11-29 12:48:21] BitMEX_Wally : But yes, if you want to use fiat and trade with a UK entity then fair enough
[2015-11-29 12:51:27] laisee : When are your bitcoin markets available? Bitcoin markets are available from 5pm on Sunday evening through to 7am on Saturday morning AEST (market holidays permitting).
[2015-11-29 12:51:46] SnackyCoins : they close, lol
[2015-11-29 12:51:55] laisee : big LOL
[2015-11-29 12:52:14] justinlooking : they still stop you out out of hours!
[2015-11-29 12:54:53] j8 : ouch yeah i guess they would
[2015-11-29 13:09:13] oDSPfgen38 : downtrend confirmed
[2015-11-29 13:09:22] habibi : oDSPfgen38: ?
[2015-11-29 13:09:50] oDSPfgen38 : history telling it goes down again
[2015-11-29 13:10:27] habibi : lel, u cant comfirm downtrend on at this point at all my friend, so even ur prediction will be true - still pure luck
[2015-11-29 13:32:50] Vnczlvnr : hi, how is liquidity growing on that exchange so far ?
[2015-11-29 13:47:39] sleger : it is growing
[2015-11-29 13:50:44] Vnczlvnr : is market order in the plans ? i guess low liquidity is a reason for not having it at the moment
[2015-11-29 13:52:10] sleger : market orders are useless, just put a limit deep enough
[2015-11-29 13:55:23] Vnczlvnr : well i like to not bother about how deep my orders are ):
[2015-11-29 13:56:18] sleger : and then you will come and complain when your order is filled 40 points away from the "market"
[2015-11-29 13:57:11] Vnczlvnr : so we're coming back to the liquidity problem
[2015-11-29 13:57:29] Vnczlvnr : that's not useless, that's just complicated for illiquid markets
[2015-11-29 13:57:37] j8 : i think sam was talking about putting an option for best bid or offer limit order. you don't have to put a price in, don't have slippage, but don't have guaranteed fill
[2015-11-29 13:58:43] sleger : Vnczlvnr: i dont know any market currently that will fill a decent size order without slippage
[2015-11-29 13:59:19] Vnczlvnr : j8, ok that's clearer thanks
[2015-11-29 13:59:30] Vnczlvnr : sleger are you only talking about crypto ones?
[2015-11-29 14:00:29] sleger : bitcoin yes
[2015-11-29 14:00:55] Vnczlvnr : i agree ):
[2015-11-29 14:01:53] SnackyCoins : Vnczlvnr: imo limit into the book is the way to go, but you sound like you want to trade at a bucketshop
[2015-11-29 14:03:05] sleger : i never use anything else than limit on any bitcoin exchange, I would never use market order
[2015-11-29 14:03:22] SnackyCoins : yeah i dont market open or close
[2015-11-29 14:03:51] habibi : limit is taker way right? or maker?
[2015-11-29 14:04:06] sleger : neither
[2015-11-29 14:04:08] SnackyCoins : depends on how you do it
[2015-11-29 14:04:11] sleger : limit is limit
[2015-11-29 14:04:28] habibi : so which fees?
[2015-11-29 14:04:33] SnackyCoins : if you limit higher than the lowest ask you are a taker
[2015-11-29 14:04:38] SnackyCoins : or lower than the highest bi
[2015-11-29 14:04:52] sleger : habibi: depends
[2015-11-29 14:04:56] sleger : why dont you : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=order+types+limit
[2015-11-29 14:05:03] Vnczlvnr : we agree on limit about bitcoin markets, i'm just used to futures (ES) + i don't trade based on price targets
[2015-11-29 14:06:05] SnackyCoins : Vnczlvnr: https://twitter.com/Kegasaur/status/670461122592423936
[2015-11-29 14:06:31] SnackyCoins : CFD markets do not have slippage
[2015-11-29 14:06:40] SnackyCoins : but then... you're trading CFD, so there's that
[2015-11-29 14:06:47] Vnczlvnr : yeah
[2015-11-29 14:07:01] Vnczlvnr : i need volume
[2015-11-29 14:07:18] Vnczlvnr : there is 1broker but the leverage for BTC is only 5
[2015-11-29 14:07:20] SnackyCoins : look at volume on another exchange? :)
[2015-11-29 14:07:30] SnackyCoins : that link i posted has 25x
[2015-11-29 14:07:36] SnackyCoins : and metatrader4
[2015-11-29 14:07:40] SnackyCoins : watch the spreads though
[2015-11-29 14:07:52] SnackyCoins : especially during crazymoontime
[2015-11-29 14:08:10] Vnczlvnr : i have not that much trust in CFDs brokers in fact
[2015-11-29 14:08:10] SnackyCoins : imo bitmex is the best place to trade btc 8)
[2015-11-29 14:08:35] SnackyCoins : i do all my trades here
[2015-11-29 14:08:50] sleger : why not 0kcoin futures, the spreads, fees and liquidity are great
[2015-11-29 14:09:02] sleger : here is very nice too as well
[2015-11-29 14:09:42] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-11-29 14:09:48] Vnczlvnr : i tried to check but it seems tey always want to redirect you to their western exchanges lol
[2015-11-29 14:10:05] Vnczlvnr : can't really explore the website without setting 2auth also
[2015-11-29 14:10:17] sleger : Vnczlvnr: which are you talking about ?
[2015-11-29 14:10:36] SnackyCoins : i do my best not to steer anyone away from my favorite exchange ;)
[2015-11-29 14:10:57] Vnczlvnr : hmm i believe they pointed me to BitVC
[2015-11-29 14:11:15] sleger : nah bitvc not very good liquidity wise
[2015-11-29 14:11:22] Vnczlvnr : which is a nice website but illiquid
[2015-11-29 14:11:52] sleger : i dont like having too many btc on only one exchange so trade on a couple
[2015-11-29 14:12:03] sleger : bitfinex is good too
[2015-11-29 14:12:21] SnackyCoins : well i do spot cashouts on bitfinex and keep funds there but i dont trade moves on it
[2015-11-29 14:12:32] Vnczlvnr : yep, probably the only liquid exchange for USD
[2015-11-29 14:12:37] SnackyCoins : its too hard to to trade moves there imo
[2015-11-29 14:12:44] SnackyCoins : longer to wait to be in profit
[2015-11-29 14:12:59] j8 : wow fomo on the daily.
[2015-11-29 14:12:59] sleger : Vnczlvnr: 0kcoin spot usd and bitstamp are decent as well
[2015-11-29 14:13:00] SnackyCoins : but they are a great bank 8)
[2015-11-29 14:13:29] sleger : j8: can we check if it is liquidation ?
[2015-11-29 14:13:34] Vnczlvnr : when i mean good liquidity i mean tradable on the 5 mins timeframe
[2015-11-29 14:13:46] j8 : there is an api call for liquidations on the book, but not if they're filled
[2015-11-29 14:13:47] Vnczlvnr : which is nearly impossible if you don't trade CNY it seems
[2015-11-29 14:14:11] j8 : `https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations`
[2015-11-29 14:15:01] Vnczlvnr : was there an announced on the USD?
[2015-11-29 14:15:02] SnackyCoins : i would like to see a visual indication of liquidations on the orderbook
[2015-11-29 14:15:13] SnackyCoins : like how you see your orders appear (love that)
[2015-11-29 14:16:12] j8 : i find this useful for comparing liquidity of spot exchanges: http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/exchanges
[2015-11-29 14:17:14] Vnczlvnr : nice
[2015-11-29 14:17:15] j8 : spread (10 BTC) and spread (100 BTC) give you an idea of slippage
[2015-11-29 14:17:26] Vnczlvnr : i use btcwisdom but this one seems better
[2015-11-29 14:17:37] j8 : it's time averaged over whatever interval you select.
[2015-11-29 14:18:15] j8 : so better for choosing an exchange, worse for live trading
[2015-11-29 14:19:01] rapidtrades : hey, have u been trading at $4 dollars premium for the past 2 hours?
[2015-11-29 14:19:06] rapidtrades : it was 2 when i left
[2015-11-29 14:19:50] j8 : i got some fills at a 7 dollar premium
[2015-11-29 14:19:59] SnackyCoins : bull market ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-11-29 14:20:15] rapidtrades : so did I..:) @j8
[2015-11-29 14:20:20] rapidtrades : longs or shorts?
[2015-11-29 14:20:36] j8 : short the daily
[2015-11-29 14:20:51] rapidtrades : j8: f yeah! we're short budddies now!
[2015-11-29 14:21:11] j8 : don't worry, i'm long on the weekly
[2015-11-29 14:22:40] j8 : i'm not a trend denier
[2015-11-29 14:22:55] rapidtrades : j8: get f*ucked
[2015-11-29 14:23:03] j8 : lol
[2015-11-29 14:24:21] laisee : eternal battle between day traders and value investors continues ...
[2015-11-29 14:26:29] Trade_master_3000 : whats the default margin used?
[2015-11-29 14:26:44] Trade_master_3000 : on xbt24h, sorry leverage
[2015-11-29 14:26:48] rapidtrades : Trade_master_3000: i think 100/1
[2015-11-29 14:26:48] sleger : do you see the multiplier in the tab ?
[2015-11-29 14:26:54] rapidtrades : if u have isolate
[2015-11-29 14:27:31] Trade_master_3000 : there is no option other than 100x?
[2015-11-29 14:27:53] rapidtrades : not on isolate
[2015-11-29 14:27:53] justinlooking : Trade_master_3000: you can have position size up to 100x
[2015-11-29 14:27:59] justinlooking : on 24h
[2015-11-29 14:28:15] sleger : Trade_master_3000: either 100x or margin
[2015-11-29 14:28:34] Trade_master_3000 : ok how can i change it?
[2015-11-29 14:28:47] sleger : "it" = ?
[2015-11-29 14:28:56] j8 : Trade_master_3000: if you Isolate Margin, you can add margin using the B+ button
[2015-11-29 14:29:00] Trade_master_3000 : change leverage from 100 to less than 100
[2015-11-29 14:29:14] sleger : Trade_master_3000: as i said you cant, 100x or margin
[2015-11-29 14:29:18] Trade_master_3000 : ok
[2015-11-29 14:29:21] rapidtrades : u can't, u can only control ur size
[2015-11-29 14:29:26] j8 : Trade_master_3000: don't listen to them
[2015-11-29 14:29:37] j8 : you can add as much margin as you want to lower your leverage
[2015-11-29 14:30:04] rapidtrades : j8: the default is 100/1 tho...that makes the stop at $2 bucks or smth
[2015-11-29 14:30:21] rapidtrades : gotta have quick fingers if we're moving
[2015-11-29 14:30:44] j8 : you can't change the default, but you can always add margin.
[2015-11-29 14:31:29] rapidtrades : well that's what he was asking, if u can change the leverage...margin =/ leverage
[2015-11-29 14:31:34] Trade_master_3000 : yeah no thanks im not that much of a gambler
[2015-11-29 14:31:39] Trade_master_3000 : lol
[2015-11-29 14:31:45] Trade_master_3000 : 2$ liquidation wtf
[2015-11-29 14:32:13] rapidtrades : Trade_master_3000: yeah I think most use cross margin here
[2015-11-29 14:38:50] rapidtrades : lol $5 premium...cos why not?
[2015-11-29 14:39:11] rapidtrades : is there an equvalent daily futures contract somewhere? to compare
[2015-11-29 14:39:28] rapidtrades : seems like MM are fucking us sometimes
[2015-11-29 14:40:50] sleger : then put lower offers
[2015-11-29 14:41:18] justinlooking : rapidtrades: will you still be bearish $30 higher than this?
[2015-11-29 14:41:53] rapidtrades : justinlooking: I have ur answer RIGHT HERE *flips you off
[2015-11-29 14:48:48] justinlooking : ;)
[2015-11-29 14:49:37] SnackyCoins : he's got a catchphrase :)
[2015-11-29 14:54:42] Swedishnut : so bulls vs 2330 fight finally moved on and up. Spiffy. *Golf claps for Bulls
[2015-11-29 14:54:59] zanza : @Swedishnut did you ever talk to bitmex about investing ?
[2015-11-29 14:55:29] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: @zanza I take investments as well :)
[2015-11-29 15:00:11] podizzle3k : rapidtrades why would the MM do anything other than fuck us
[2015-11-29 15:00:18] podizzle3k : theyre there to profit not to make us profit
[2015-11-29 15:01:07] podizzle3k : if they were there for our convienience it'd be 100k orders with a 1 cent spread
[2015-11-29 15:02:05] rapidtrades : well I bite the bullet and got out with $4 premium...it painful to let that go but don't wanna get caught in a short today
[2015-11-29 15:02:19] rapidtrades : seems dangerous...and I got in at +$7 :D
[2015-11-29 15:03:31] Swedishnut : think cyber monday will give a pump?
[2015-11-29 15:03:38] SnackyCoins : no
[2015-11-29 15:03:43] SnackyCoins : but it might pump anyway
[2015-11-29 15:03:58] Swedishnut : gotcha :)
[2015-11-29 15:57:15] sleger : why would cyber monday pump bitcoin, that's a weird idea...
[2015-11-29 15:57:36] Swedishnut : cyber monies :P?
[2015-11-29 15:59:39] Swedishnut : attack on 2400 incoming?
[2015-11-29 16:52:31] messiaen8844 : if rapid is shorting, yes
[2015-11-29 16:59:16] habibi : rapidtrades: ur daily call?
[2015-11-29 17:00:24] rapidtrades : You know I noticed a pattern here...
[2015-11-29 17:01:15] rapidtrades : Whenever Bitcorn rallies like $2-3 dollars everyone comes here to post ''LOL Rapid indicator was right again'....then things calm down and they leave to have sex with their mothers
[2015-11-29 17:03:40] habibi : u talking again about how u calling <350$ everyday so u can go sleep and rest?
[2015-11-29 17:03:49] habibi : lvl>350$
[2015-11-29 17:03:53] habibi : so u can go sleep?
[2015-11-29 17:05:52] rapidtrades : right...but I was short from 357...and I got several profitable scalps ysterday, plus one today
[2015-11-29 17:06:21] rapidtrades : I actually took one very quick long scalp as well
[2015-11-29 17:08:01] rapidtrades : that was today not yesterday
[2015-11-29 17:10:13] habibi : i am not talking about ur profitables scalps:) just about ur calls :)
[2015-11-29 17:11:23] rapidtrades : meh calls are a dime as dozen ...I also called bullshit on that rally to $370 then we crashed $30 dollars
[2015-11-29 17:11:40] rapidtrades : but I had no position on...so who cares
[2015-11-29 17:12:04] rapidtrades : price looks bullish, that's my call for today
[2015-11-29 17:15:27] messiaen8844 : ETH starting to look for lng term
[2015-11-29 17:16:09] messiaen8844 : bought some to HODL, will buy way more if it more early inverstors are shaken off by further declines
[2015-11-29 17:17:27] rapidtrades : lool everyone ignored my bullish call like nothing was said...if I said shor u'd all be like ''BULLS ON $400 Rapi''
[2015-11-29 17:17:31] rapidtrades : *d
[2015-11-29 17:18:16] messiaen8844 : it could be a double top
[2015-11-29 17:18:17] justinlooking : rapidtrades: i'm starting to think you've been long this whole time and ur just messing with us...
[2015-11-29 17:18:31] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: probably because youre right this time ;)
[2015-11-29 17:18:43] rapidtrades : nope, I've been mostly short but today I'm a bit scared tbh
[2015-11-29 17:20:08] rapidtrades : pa looks shitty for shorting...I'll prolly still short if I get good premium plus some topping pattern
[2015-11-29 17:20:44] rapidtrades : took a $3 dollar short earlier..so still going strong :)
[2015-11-29 17:22:41] wurstgelee : i am not really comfortable with $5 premium, small long position anyways :/
[2015-11-29 17:24:02] rapidtrades : yeah things look bullish but I hate to pay $5 over market, so rly don't see myself longing this today
[2015-11-29 17:27:09] j8 : buy the weekly, still 5 days to go
[2015-11-29 17:28:05] sleger : just pay the small 5$ premium, it's worth it
[2015-11-29 17:28:42] sleger : and if the price continues to go up, in a few hours it will be even more than 5 so you'll make even more, if you are right
[2015-11-29 17:29:30] Swedishnut : indeed I think 375 soon
[2015-11-29 17:30:09] wurstgelee : i did long despite the premium, just not as much i am used too
[2015-11-29 17:47:56] cataquil : support hello
[2015-11-29 17:48:32] sleger : omg again...
[2015-11-29 17:49:05] sleger : still haven't figured out how this website works ?
[2015-11-29 17:49:26] BitMEX_Wally : cataquil: Helo
[2015-11-29 17:49:51] cataquil : hello wally, I made a withdrawal, I received an email to confirm
[2015-11-29 17:50:18] cataquil : it says all withdrawals are confirmed at 1 UTC
[2015-11-29 17:50:37] BitMEX_Wally : You have confirmed the withdrawal, it will be processed at 13:00 UTC
[2015-11-29 17:50:42] BitMEX_Wally : That is in 19 hours from now
[2015-11-29 17:52:56] sleger : cataquil: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=utc+time
[2015-11-29 17:54:01] cataquil : oh thanks sledger thats really nifty...lol, I just happen to live in UTC so its not like I don't know the time
[2015-11-29 17:54:16] sleger : so then what was the issue ?
[2015-11-29 17:54:38] justinlooking : sleger are you standing in for floopfloop? :P
[2015-11-29 17:55:14] cataquil : I have 19 hours to wait for my bitcoin...I appreciate the security and all but right now I need it to make purchases. So will have to tell the vendor to wait.
[2015-11-29 17:55:24] sleger : not at all, but cataquil has been particularly agressive and showing lack of respect against admins here, threatening to write an article etc...
[2015-11-29 17:55:35] cataquil : are u an admin?
[2015-11-29 17:55:47] justinlooking : ah k, sry ;)
[2015-11-29 17:55:52] messiaen8844 : you knew he rules when you signed for it, n?
[2015-11-29 17:55:56] BitMEX_Wally : cataquil: Admins have a name with `BitMEX_` at the beginning
[2015-11-29 18:18:58] cataquil : thanks wally
[2015-11-29 18:43:20] rapidtrades : hey anyone trading at finex? need clarification
[2015-11-29 19:08:10] stf28 : rapidtrades: what about?
[2015-11-29 19:43:06] podizzle3k : whether anyone is trading at finex
[2015-11-29 20:20:08] 24hourz : Is it down or something?
[2015-11-29 20:21:25] podizzle3k : its fine
[2015-11-29 20:28:33] habibi : 7d almost no premium
[2015-11-29 20:28:35] habibi : sweet
[2015-11-29 20:28:41] podizzle3k : julian wu was wrong :)
[2015-11-29 20:30:00] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-29 20:30:34] wurstgelee : not surprised tho, didnt agree with today's ta
[2015-11-29 20:30:36] sleger : almost "no premium" = 2% lol
[2015-11-29 20:31:08] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah wtf....I was hoping for some cheap coinz
[2015-11-29 20:31:11] habibi : meant 372 to 370 on 24h
[2015-11-29 20:31:15] rapidtrades : i see $9
[2015-11-29 20:31:25] habibi : so it was basically no premium compared with 24h at that point
[2015-11-29 20:31:31] rapidtrades : habibi: wtf
[2015-11-29 20:31:45] rapidtrades : habibi: get aids
[2015-11-29 20:31:49] sleger : habibi: then be precise when you try to say something
[2015-11-29 20:31:54] justinlooking : habibi think you may have sticky chart or summat
[2015-11-29 20:32:34] rapidtrades : yeah @habibi I was doing smth and ur comment panicked me, had to sit down and focus
[2015-11-29 20:33:59] habibi : good for u my dead rapid friend
[2015-11-29 20:34:52] rapidtrades : well...glad I didn't roll my short today lol
[2015-11-29 20:36:18] rapidtrades : did we break the high?
[2015-11-29 20:47:05] 24hourz : i think so
[2015-11-29 20:52:02] rapidtrades : yeah but only here and nowhere else
[2015-11-29 20:54:12] JACOBcze : rapidtrades are u shorting?
[2015-11-29 21:04:11] sleger : JACOBcze: which part of "15:34 - rapidtrades: well...glad I didn't roll my short today lol" do you not understand ?
[2015-11-29 21:04:35] rapidtrades : sleger: ha...now I know ur timezone b1tch
[2015-11-29 21:04:54] wurstgelee : murica
[2015-11-29 21:04:55] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-29 21:05:21] sleger : no you only know which timezone the computer I used to send this from is located in
[2015-11-29 21:05:28] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-11-29 21:05:37] rapidtrades : sleger: say no more, say no more
[2015-11-29 21:06:14] sleger : no more, no more.
[2015-11-29 21:09:18] rapidtrades : I wonder if we'll hit $10 premium today...that would be hard to pass up
[2015-11-29 21:09:50] Swedishnut : feels like a desire to settle at 375
[2015-11-29 21:10:36] rapidtrades : okcoin's wely is at $373.....feels like ppl here are again getting ahead of themselves
[2015-11-29 21:10:45] rapidtrades : weeklly futures
[2015-11-29 21:11:46] Swedishnut : yeah could be. Also I think there is generally more small players entering today than last month which is giving extra hopium
[2015-11-29 21:12:09] rapidtrades : our weekly is at $372...
[2015-11-29 21:12:33] rapidtrades : so u only get $2 bucks for extra 5 days...doesn't seem right but what do i know :)
[2015-11-29 21:15:01] Swedishnut : well in a world of bitcoin why do you need the extra 2$ ? :P j/k
[2015-11-29 21:17:17] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: how do u know that there are more small players
[2015-11-29 21:32:07] sleger : session volume shows 62k contracts for 24H for me, that isnt right
[2015-11-29 21:43:17] jung1 : up we go?
[2015-11-29 21:43:22] jung1 : or 355
[2015-11-29 21:51:03] wurstgelee : no up
[2015-11-29 21:51:04] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-29 21:51:23] jung1 : damn
[2015-11-29 21:51:29] jung1 : good that I went long
[2015-11-29 21:52:08] jung1 : whaleclub charts does not works?
[2015-11-29 21:57:41] jung1 : any alternatives for whaleclub 4x4 charts?
[2015-11-29 21:57:44] jung1 : except hypron
[2015-11-29 21:58:17] AudibleScience : jung1: https://hypron.net/bitcoinwisdom/
[2015-11-29 21:58:18] sleger : 16 charts in one page ?
[2015-11-29 21:58:47] jung1 : 2x2
[2015-11-29 21:58:59] sleger : better...
[2015-11-29 22:00:06] habibi : liq?
[2015-11-29 22:00:33] jung1 : old.whaleclub.co too bad its shut down
[2015-11-29 22:01:51] habibi : looks like two liqs on 24 and 7d from same guy probally
[2015-11-29 22:01:54] habibi : or just bids
[2015-11-29 22:02:14] j8 : not liquidations
[2015-11-29 22:13:49] jung1 : whoop whoop
[2015-11-29 22:15:02] clipperhawk : f-ing bitmex