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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-04-18 03:23:24] arbitrage101 : if you ignore what rapid said
[2017-04-18 03:23:30] arbitrage101 : this is a great trollbox
[2017-04-18 03:23:33] MikeHunt : or counter trade what he says
[2017-04-18 03:23:52] Rookie : arbitrage101: +5 or 6
[2017-04-18 03:26:00] BigJElectronics : It's gonna make MT Gox 2 if it keeps it up, I think that's the real problem. Rekt musical chairs for everyone.
[2017-04-18 03:27:14] foobar : i don't understand all this mt gox talk
[2017-04-18 03:27:23] foobar : you can still withdraw crypto currencies
[2017-04-18 03:29:22] Rookie : I'll be a bit amused if OKcoin USD suspends withdrawals and the index becomes Bitstamp
[2017-04-18 03:29:50] InvalidUser : foobar: Gox started the same way.
[2017-04-18 03:30:48] Rookie : InvalidUser: how long did it all take to play out?
[2017-04-18 03:31:22] BigJElectronics : I think the only major difference is the amount of fiat coming in consistently over a longer term. It's definitely not good for new participant confidence.
[2017-04-18 03:31:26] InvalidUser : I think about 3 months but there were warning signs before like the price being much higher theneveryone else
[2017-04-18 03:33:33] InvalidUser : Funding in 25
[2017-04-18 03:36:16] MikeHunt : i think it was 3 months after bank suspension, mtgox went under
[2017-04-18 03:38:17] arbitrage101 : the entire episode with mtgox took about 6-9 months
[2017-04-18 03:38:33] arbitrage101 : started with gov confiscating their money in US
[2017-04-18 03:39:30] InvalidUser : So I just talked to the Bitcoin CEO and she said that after funding we are going to pump the shit out of this thing
[2017-04-18 03:39:56] Rookie : the trolls here have truth in their lies
[2017-04-18 03:41:20] Rookie : some of the 'experts' seem to have baaad truth, I can't tell how much of it is trolling . . .
[2017-04-18 03:41:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : what is happening at Bitfinex and happen at almost all alt coins because they are centralized and exposed. When crowd realiizes this there will be alt coin exodus
[2017-04-18 03:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 494 @ 0.00938
[2017-04-18 03:41:56] InvalidUser : Ugly_Old_Goat: I agree with that, it's mostly new money in the alt's
[2017-04-18 03:42:04] MikeHunt : so far no alt has kept pace with a btc dump
[2017-04-18 03:42:13] MikeHunt : a major one
[2017-04-18 03:42:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Do not be surprised if we wake up some morning and btc is 300 highr
[2017-04-18 03:42:22] Rookie : that's kind of why I find this place a valuable source of info
[2017-04-18 03:43:06] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: or lower, if finex goes insolvent
[2017-04-18 03:43:49] Apocalyptic : Such mooning today
[2017-04-18 03:43:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Bitfinex is not insolvent,
[2017-04-18 03:44:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : The exit ramp is simply closed
[2017-04-18 03:44:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : The is just the beginning
[2017-04-18 03:44:28] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: "if"
[2017-04-18 03:44:52] Rookie : what other exchanges were around during the gox episode?
[2017-04-18 03:45:00] MikeHunt : my only issue with suggesting it will pump is no fiat deposits
[2017-04-18 03:45:06] Apocalyptic : Goat: the USD exit ramp for now
[2017-04-18 03:45:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : But hey are not. any problem getting btc out?
[2017-04-18 03:45:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not that I know of
[2017-04-18 03:45:16] arbitrage101 : Rookie: bitstamp, bitfinex and btc-e
[2017-04-18 03:45:24] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: btc in/out = fine, fiat in, nope, fiat out, sorta
[2017-04-18 03:45:45] arbitrage101 : their combine volume is less than 10%
[2017-04-18 03:45:49] Apocalyptic : Maybe next thing you know btc exit ramp closed too
[2017-04-18 03:45:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : arbitrage101: Exactly, extremely bullish
[2017-04-18 03:46:00] arbitrage101 : so bitstamp and finex benefit the most
[2017-04-18 03:46:08] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: bullish until they stopped fiat deposit
[2017-04-18 03:46:15] arbitrage101 : when mtgox went under
[2017-04-18 03:46:28] arbitrage101 : this time, bitmex will probably benefit the most if finex go under
[2017-04-18 03:47:01] Rookie : BitMEX is too cool for fiat
[2017-04-18 03:47:12] Rookie : only a fool would wear the crown
[2017-04-18 03:47:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Wrong again. This may be beginning. Banks may very well not wire to other exchanges
[2017-04-18 03:47:30] arbitrage101 : there are sufficient infrastructure in place to not rely on fiat exchange
[2017-04-18 03:47:48] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: well the others tend to obey the laws of there area
[2017-04-18 03:48:09] Rookie : arbitrage101: ?
[2017-04-18 03:48:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : And bitfinex did not?
[2017-04-18 03:48:39] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: well all we know atm is a government anti-corruption/money laundering official is involved
[2017-04-18 03:48:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : If the entrance ramps are closed btc will explode and alts become ddvunerable
[2017-04-18 03:49:21] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: problem with it being bullish is no fiat deposits
[2017-04-18 03:49:27] MikeHunt : reduces demand
[2017-04-18 03:49:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Exactly. I have had 3 bank accounts closed for same reason and everything I do is up and up
[2017-04-18 03:50:04] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: closed for what?
[2017-04-18 03:50:19] InvalidUser : If you can not send money to buy Bitcoins the value of ones you have will go though the roof. Rare things are more valuable
[2017-04-18 03:50:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Wrong again. If entrance ramps are closed currency collapse is near
[2017-04-18 03:50:53] Apocalyptic : InvalidUser: people will buy on LBC
[2017-04-18 03:50:58] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: you can buy bitcoins elsewhere though
[2017-04-18 03:51:08] Rookie : I was thinking crypto might do better long, long term if its totally outside of the current financial system
[2017-04-18 03:51:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : I hope I am wrong. But this looks serious and is not bearish
[2017-04-18 03:51:21] plappa : well how can you buy crypto rookie
[2017-04-18 03:51:22] plappa : lol
[2017-04-18 03:51:28] Rookie : but I am quite naive sometimes
[2017-04-18 03:51:34] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: you think USD collapse near?
[2017-04-18 03:51:43] Rookie : plappa: with goods and services
[2017-04-18 03:51:57] plappa : then what will people exchange for
[2017-04-18 03:52:00] plappa : btc/blowjobs?
[2017-04-18 03:52:05] Apocalyptic : plappa: lbc
[2017-04-18 03:52:07] Rookie : money is already breaking in my society
[2017-04-18 03:52:21] shillosopher : I would be surprised if USD collapses soon. A lot of bandaids will be implemented before it does/if it ever does
[2017-04-18 03:52:34] Rookie : it looks like monopoly money and people don't trust it as much
[2017-04-18 03:52:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: I have not idea. Hope not. But if I am right we will go hyuperbolic
[2017-04-18 03:52:46] MikeHunt : look at venuezuela, thats most likely future, slow hard painful decline
[2017-04-18 03:52:54] Rookie : and things are 'great' here, relatively speaking
[2017-04-18 03:53:00] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: i'd agree if fiat deposits werent stopped
[2017-04-18 03:53:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : They are stopped on Bitfinex
[2017-04-18 03:53:24] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: yes
[2017-04-18 03:53:43] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: so only source of buyers is people cashing out fiat they already have there
[2017-04-18 03:53:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : Question is this isolated or just the beginning
[2017-04-18 03:54:19] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: thats the thing, if faith in bitfinex is lost, it will go hyperbollic
[2017-04-18 03:54:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Agreed. But if this spread we will go hyper
[2017-04-18 03:54:47] MikeHunt : i dont think it will spread
[2017-04-18 03:54:54] MikeHunt : finex had a rather unique setup
[2017-04-18 03:54:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bitfines will be ok as they have btc
[2017-04-18 03:55:00] MikeHunt : HK base => taiwanese bank
[2017-04-18 03:55:20] InvalidUser : There is quite a bit of money to be made if you can be the intermediary bank for any exchange. Someone will want that money.. Like Japan.
[2017-04-18 03:55:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Blocking new buyers will increase demand
[2017-04-18 03:55:46] InvalidUser : At best they will just block the US
[2017-04-18 03:55:49] MikeHunt : how exactly?
[2017-04-18 03:55:51] InvalidUser : Canada is pro BTC
[2017-04-18 03:55:55] InvalidUser : Japan is
[2017-04-18 03:55:58] InvalidUser : Russia is
[2017-04-18 03:56:08] InvalidUser : India is
[2017-04-18 03:56:09] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: how does restricting demand increase demand?
[2017-04-18 03:56:10] InvalidUser : China is
[2017-04-18 03:56:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Agreed, i have done quite well and that is why I have been shut down 3 times
[2017-04-18 03:56:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Demand is not restricted, but ability to buy is
[2017-04-18 03:57:10] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: which is what matters...
[2017-04-18 03:57:20] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: if ppl cant deposit fiat to buy, price dont go up
[2017-04-18 03:58:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Wrong price will sky rocket as market wants but can't have
[2017-04-18 03:58:15] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: that makes no sense
[2017-04-18 03:58:37] shillosopher : if you cannot buy, supply is "restricted"
[2017-04-18 03:58:45] Rookie : this gunna be good :)
[2017-04-18 03:58:50] MikeHunt : people can buy elsewhere...
[2017-04-18 03:58:52] Rookie : no matter how it plays out
[2017-04-18 03:59:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Do your homework, It is similar to price controls under Nixon
[2017-04-18 03:59:07] Rookie : as long as I don't get rekt
[2017-04-18 03:59:12] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: that would be true if finex had a monopoly
[2017-04-18 03:59:18] MikeHunt : but it doesnt
[2017-04-18 03:59:27] shillosopher : Rookie: yep, I'm eagerly awaiting the fireworks :)
[2017-04-18 03:59:54] mark121 : 10 seec funding
[2017-04-18 04:00:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : Agreed, what I am saying is this may well be the beginning. What happens if all exchanges annouce no new fiiat deposits
[2017-04-18 04:00:37] MikeHunt : thats like saying if asteroid hits earth
[2017-04-18 04:00:42] Rookie : I like the idea of tokens like TIME
[2017-04-18 04:00:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Not at a;;
[2017-04-18 04:01:31] coinspredator : btc crash will be a bloodbath.
[2017-04-18 04:01:42] MikeHunt : i think it will crash
[2017-04-18 04:01:53] Rookie : if the 'fiat meaning' breaks down for cryptocurrencies, other ones can arise that are denominated in tangible goods and services
[2017-04-18 04:02:07] MikeHunt : im not gonna short yet thou, finex could go supa nova
[2017-04-18 04:02:25] Rookie : but I don't have much hope for technosphere in such an economic collapse
[2017-04-18 04:02:39] Rookie : *scenario
[2017-04-18 04:02:56] MikeHunt : only bullish scenario i see is loss of faith in bitfinex
[2017-04-18 04:03:10] MikeHunt : so ppl cash out
[2017-04-18 04:03:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: I will not be shocked if other exchanges follow suit. If they do we will be 300 dollars higher tomorrow
[2017-04-18 04:03:31] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: which ones?
[2017-04-18 04:04:26] DorianWhack-A-Moto : step 1 block fiat. step 2 block crypto withdrawals.
[2017-04-18 04:04:42] MikeHunt : if they block btc withdrawals, will cause dump
[2017-04-18 04:04:55] DorianWhack-A-Moto : yes. we are about to witness a mega-gox.
[2017-04-18 04:04:56] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-18 04:05:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1192.53 (0.97%) Bitfinex : 1252.30 (1.11%) The Woodchipper : 1220.50 (0.45%) itBit : 1199.99 (0.17%) Kraken : 1204.50 (0.38%) GDAX : 1196.95 (0.47%) SLQ : 2 hours, 37 mins```
[2017-04-18 04:05:10] foobar : funny thing is , bitfinex just finished getting out of their last world of pain
[2017-04-18 04:05:34] shillosopher : foobar: or they didn't
[2017-04-18 04:05:40] MikeHunt : quartly futures has still barely recovered from the january raping
[2017-04-18 04:05:49] MikeHunt : still negative premium
[2017-04-18 04:06:24] Rookie : I'm getting ahead of this particular event ( possible fingox), but I wish I could long home economics making a comeback
[2017-04-18 04:06:36] foobar : fair basis was positive last week
[2017-04-18 04:06:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: It is possible all. First it was China now US is involved. Who is next?
[2017-04-18 04:07:06] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: well its just Wells Fargo atm
[2017-04-18 04:07:12] MikeHunt : and a Taiwanese bank
[2017-04-18 04:07:35] Rookie : it's really unusual for the formal economy to play such an overwhelming role in human affairs, historically speaking
[2017-04-18 04:07:37] MikeHunt : it seems Finex has become a hot potato
[2017-04-18 04:07:56] MikeHunt : japanese exchanges havent had these intemediatry issues
[2017-04-18 04:08:00] MikeHunt : same for chinese exchanges
[2017-04-18 04:08:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Yup, the largest bank in US Hard to believe they did not have backup
[2017-04-18 04:08:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : I had backup when I got shut down
[2017-04-18 04:08:25] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: it seems they pretty much control the flow to the US
[2017-04-18 04:08:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just saying this smells bad
[2017-04-18 04:08:40] coinspredator : finex is the next gox
[2017-04-18 04:08:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : Will be good for btc holders and bad for those want but don't have
[2017-04-18 04:09:21] MikeHunt : i think the pause on fiat deposits has bought them time
[2017-04-18 04:09:25] MikeHunt : otherwise it'd just get pumped
[2017-04-18 04:09:33] shiroe : those buys are massive. lol
[2017-04-18 04:09:34] shiroe : 100+ 200+
[2017-04-18 04:10:33] InvalidUser : The LTC pumpers are shitting them self's right now.
[2017-04-18 04:10:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : This is probably the best place to be but if this scenario happens shorts will get rket and longs will not get full gains. I hope I am wrong.
[2017-04-18 04:10:48] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just looks and feels bad
[2017-04-18 04:10:53] MikeHunt : im hodling for now
[2017-04-18 04:11:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00925
[2017-04-18 04:11:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 420 @ 0.00925
[2017-04-18 04:11:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1 @ 0.00924
[2017-04-18 04:11:08] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Me too
[2017-04-18 04:11:23] MikeHunt : like i said last few days, this feels like jan3rd area
[2017-04-18 04:11:29] MikeHunt : pump time may be upon us
[2017-04-18 04:11:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : I want to buy the break but already long up yingyang
[2017-04-18 04:12:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00914
[2017-04-18 04:12:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00916
[2017-04-18 04:12:07] rangle : MikeHunt: is that when the China news came out?
[2017-04-18 04:12:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : We can gap to contract highs and catch Ver with his pants down
[2017-04-18 04:12:35] MikeHunt : rangle: pboc bad news came out jan5th
[2017-04-18 04:12:48] InvalidUser : Thin order book on ltc
[2017-04-18 04:13:03] MikeHunt : just before 5th, starting 3rd was very quick pump
[2017-04-18 04:13:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : I recommend to only trade btc here, the rest are too thin
[2017-04-18 04:13:44] MikeHunt : +1
[2017-04-18 04:13:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 400 @ 0.00908
[2017-04-18 04:14:11] shiroe : By these, ATH will be broken. lol
[2017-04-18 04:16:08] shiroe : maybe straight to 1400 eh?
[2017-04-18 04:19:05] MikeHunt : if finex is gox2.0, 10k could be possible
[2017-04-18 04:20:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : didnt gox have the willy bot buying up the price? wonder if bfx have their own willy
[2017-04-18 04:20:43] coinspredator : hope you guys buy my short, night all
[2017-04-18 04:21:00] coinspredator : :)
[2017-04-18 04:21:35] InvalidUser : I hope you can get out of your short before the nights over
[2017-04-18 04:22:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : coinspredator: i dont' think you will be bedding down tonight
[2017-04-18 04:22:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : I wouldn't long or short
[2017-04-18 04:22:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : Something is ready to break
[2017-04-18 04:23:45] MikeHunt : $25m buys vs $11m sells
[2017-04-18 04:23:47] MikeHunt : on finex
[2017-04-18 04:25:08] MikeHunt : maths would suggests multiply price by 2.72
[2017-04-18 04:25:11] MikeHunt : to even it out
[2017-04-18 04:25:20] MikeHunt : 2.27*
[2017-04-18 04:26:21] Rookie : how do you do it? with so little sleep?
[2017-04-18 04:26:48] InvalidUser : 3 dollar spread on Stamp
[2017-04-18 04:26:50] Rookie : sometimes these markets are too exciting to sleep, but then I can't function to trade
[2017-04-18 04:27:05] MikeHunt : i got work in a few hours
[2017-04-18 04:27:07] MikeHunt : no sleep
[2017-04-18 04:27:13] shillosopher : I take short naps throughout the day
[2017-04-18 04:29:18] podizzle3k : so btc index is right now stamp, okcoin usd, and gdax?
[2017-04-18 04:29:41] InvalidUser : https://supload.com/r1HybniIg
[2017-04-18 04:32:37] l3f : podizzle3k: gdax is removed
[2017-04-18 04:32:44] l3f : Ugly_Old_Goat: The goat is back
[2017-04-18 04:33:08] podizzle3k : the goat? gemini?
[2017-04-18 04:33:24] podizzle3k : oh gdax is the goat
[2017-04-18 04:33:32] podizzle3k : oh nm youre the goat
[2017-04-18 04:33:34] podizzle3k : lol
[2017-04-18 04:33:58] plappa : bitchstamp
[2017-04-18 04:34:03] plappa : breaking 1200 was the hardest thing in it's life to do
[2017-04-18 04:34:29] plappa : muh long
[2017-04-18 04:34:32] plappa : hopefully i make back my losses
[2017-04-18 04:34:40] MK1 : /price
[2017-04-18 04:34:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1200.00 (0.63%) Bitfinex : 1258.50 (0.50%) The Woodchipper : 1221.52 (0.08%) itBit : 1199.99 (0.00%) Kraken : 1208.62 (0.34%) GDAX : 1200.00 (0.25%) SLQ : 29 mins```
[2017-04-18 04:36:17] podizzle3k : anyone know for sure? is it stamp, okcoin usd, and gdax atm
[2017-04-18 04:40:50] shillosopher : gdax is back on the index??
[2017-04-18 04:42:29] shiroe : the buys are insane :D
[2017-04-18 04:42:48] j8 : index is just bitstamp and okc still
[2017-04-18 04:45:06] shiroe : i wonder if it's time to short. mmm.
[2017-04-18 04:45:30] MikeHunt : shiroe: dare you
[2017-04-18 04:45:53] MikeHunt : fiat starts to hit europe ina few hours
[2017-04-18 04:45:59] MikeHunt : they might pump stamp
[2017-04-18 04:46:06] InvalidUser : Walls mean nothing to the honey badger
[2017-04-18 04:46:23] shiroe : shorted a bit for fun.
[2017-04-18 04:47:29] InvalidUser : I do not think that words means whan you think it means.
[2017-04-18 04:47:35] InvalidUser : *what
[2017-04-18 04:47:51] cryptonoob : have fun @ liquidation
[2017-04-18 04:48:08] cryptonoob : much fun,wow
[2017-04-18 04:48:47] podizzle3k : time to short is when bitfinex closes shop
[2017-04-18 04:48:50] podizzle3k : good luck timing that one
[2017-04-18 04:49:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 60 @ 0.00903
[2017-04-18 04:49:29] podizzle3k : or they miraculously find a way to renenable fiat
[2017-04-18 04:49:45] Rookie : how many traders in crypto would you reckon are in your 'league'?
[2017-04-18 04:49:52] shillosopher : podizzle3k: load up on amphetamines and press f5 every few seconds
[2017-04-18 04:49:54] DangerandPlay : Currently have a misguided short position open (21,000 contracts)... entry price was 1204 USD a few weeks ago. I stand to lose 0.08 btc if i close now. Not much. Liquidation price is 1,845 USD. What should I do? :)
[2017-04-18 04:49:58] Rookie : I saw an interesting string of tweets earlier
[2017-04-18 04:50:05] DangerandPlay : :)
[2017-04-18 04:50:09] podizzle3k : shillosopher: lol sounds likea plan
[2017-04-18 04:50:33] podizzle3k : DangerandPlay: stop loss?
[2017-04-18 04:50:51] DangerandPlay : At what point? Friend of mine is urging me to close it completely.
[2017-04-18 04:51:01] InvalidUser : DangerandPlay: I would go long
[2017-04-18 04:51:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.00897
[2017-04-18 04:51:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 92 @ 0.00898
[2017-04-18 04:51:16] podizzle3k : usually the rule is cut your losses as soon as you are not comfortable with the trade
[2017-04-18 04:51:29] InvalidUser : We have hype and fundamentals driving this price
[2017-04-18 04:51:29] podizzle3k : if you still believe its gonna go down then hold
[2017-04-18 04:51:38] foobar : DangerandPlay: swap or future
[2017-04-18 04:51:42] podizzle3k : personally im not sure how you can have that belief atm
[2017-04-18 04:51:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 70 @ 0.00894
[2017-04-18 04:51:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 3500 @ 0.00894
[2017-04-18 04:51:53] foobar : hell, that swap is gonna pay a nice fee in 15 hours
[2017-04-18 04:52:07] DangerandPlay : it's a short position..... cross margin
[2017-04-18 04:52:08] InvalidUser : People are diving out of LTC to buy BTC
[2017-04-18 04:52:23] DangerandPlay : thinking of closing the short, swallowing the 0.08 loss and longing
[2017-04-18 04:52:53] podizzle3k : DangerandPlay: you should be safe with 1845 if you can hold for a couple weeks this drama will be over and the price will be under $1000 probably
[2017-04-18 04:53:05] podizzle3k : 1845 though i dont know if what happened with gox happens again
[2017-04-18 04:53:30] podizzle3k : last time gox was kinda the only exchange
[2017-04-18 04:53:45] podizzle3k : well stamp i guess too
[2017-04-18 04:54:45] foobar : short the swap, buy the future, collect the interest
[2017-04-18 04:54:49] oo : ltc falls
[2017-04-18 04:55:06] podizzle3k : tether is up to 1260
[2017-04-18 04:55:23] podizzle3k : its in the same boat as finex
[2017-04-18 04:55:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 600 @ 0.00881
[2017-04-18 04:55:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 380 @ 0.00879
[2017-04-18 04:56:42] oo : is finex using usdt instead of wire transfer?
[2017-04-18 04:56:46] rugu : man this jihan
[2017-04-18 04:57:26] InvalidUser : Jihan is a god
[2017-04-18 04:57:34] InvalidUser : keep treating him that way\
[2017-04-18 04:57:39] InvalidUser : make it true
[2017-04-18 04:58:23] 123abc : lol someone just market dumps a LTC short here
[2017-04-18 04:59:00] foobar : oo: no
[2017-04-18 05:02:44] frog : ltc is still 77% why is it going doen?
[2017-04-18 05:03:15] thomaskikansha : 24hr is down to 65%
[2017-04-18 05:03:49] frog : ok thanks do you think it will go back up?
[2017-04-18 05:04:19] thomaskikansha : I think more down before going up
[2017-04-18 05:04:32] rugu : might go to 0.082
[2017-04-18 05:04:33] thomaskikansha : some support are broke
[2017-04-18 05:04:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.00891
[2017-04-18 05:05:05] rugu : rekt
[2017-04-18 05:05:23] rugu : /rekt
[2017-04-18 05:05:23] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 13 hours, 23 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 113000 @ 1205.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 13 hours, 48 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 216000 @ 1203.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 2 days, 6 hours, 2 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-18 05:05:51] frog : i think if goes to .0085 stops will be hit
[2017-04-18 05:06:00] oo : i've read article that finex halted fiat widrawal. get out of finex immediatly
[2017-04-18 05:06:08] rugu : yup
[2017-04-18 05:06:23] 123abc : there bitfinex goes
[2017-04-18 05:07:02] InvalidUser : Woot!!
[2017-04-18 05:07:38] shiroe : easy 1300
[2017-04-18 05:08:07] frog : 123abc: did you close your ltc long?
[2017-04-18 05:08:35] InvalidUser : Coffee times over boys
[2017-04-18 05:08:42] 123abc : yeah at a lostt at 0.0091 and reopened at 0.00876
[2017-04-18 05:09:11] rugu : long at 0.00876? I guess its a quick scalp?
[2017-04-18 05:09:34] 123abc : yeah. i should just short it and wait. probably easier play
[2017-04-18 05:09:50] 123abc : it'll be under 75% in like 15 hours or so
[2017-04-18 05:09:56] 123abc : then the panic sets in
[2017-04-18 05:09:59] frog : i expect strong support at that level think will bounce up then good place for short entry
[2017-04-18 05:10:18] alfaCharlie : sell 184359 @ 1156.0
[2017-04-18 05:10:21] alfaCharlie : LOL
[2017-04-18 05:11:00] InvalidUser : If you want to loose BTC put up a sell wall now
[2017-04-18 05:11:16] shillosopher : InvalidUser: +1
[2017-04-18 05:11:25] alfaCharlie : +!
[2017-04-18 05:11:30] podizzle3k : stamp didnt even budge on that last finex buy
[2017-04-18 05:11:40] podizzle3k : they were like "$65 spread? meh"
[2017-04-18 05:11:52] frog : total disconnect
[2017-04-18 05:13:07] 123abc : china moved 0.6% recently. bitstamp 3% and bitfinex 4%
[2017-04-18 05:13:11] 123abc : sucks for china
[2017-04-18 05:14:18] 123abc : bitfinex shorts starting to close. down to 21,000 BTC now
[2017-04-18 05:14:57] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-04-18 05:15:00] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 13.46 / 86.54 Daily : 33.38 / 66.62 Weekly : 45.46 / 54.54 Monthly : 47.77 / 52.23```
[2017-04-18 05:18:22] thomaskikansha : finally some bounce on ltc
[2017-04-18 05:29:23] frog : strong buying on polo
[2017-04-18 05:37:43] KingTuna : That's just rapidtrades closing isnmassive short ;)
[2017-04-18 05:38:08] frog : lol
[2017-04-18 05:39:11] rugu : lul
[2017-04-18 05:39:30] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-18 05:39:37] shillosopher : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/65y0qt/does_tether_the_company_believe_in_tether_the/
[2017-04-18 05:40:02] frog : KingTuna: do you have position with ltc?
[2017-04-18 05:40:14] frog : i am thinking about shorting
[2017-04-18 05:40:33] rugu : 63.5% segwit signaling in last 576 block\s
[2017-04-18 05:40:50] 123abc : During activation period 6 (2163 blocks mined, 5901 left): Segwit 75.3%.
[2017-04-18 05:41:11] rugu : yes but last it 63%, the amount will drop to 74 within the hour
[2017-04-18 05:42:40] irvingtrader : /price
[2017-04-18 05:42:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.48 (-0.21%) Bitfinex : 1252.10 (-0.51%) The Woodchipper : 1221.47 (0.00%) itBit : 1198.99 (-0.08%) Kraken : 1209.00 (0.03%) GDAX : 1194.87 (-0.43%) SLQ : 1 hour, 8 mins```
[2017-04-18 05:43:05] KingTuna : frog: I closed my long a little back during the dump. Should have closed at double top, forgot greedy. But considering a short. Watching closely
[2017-04-18 05:43:23] irvingtrader : /price
[2017-04-18 05:43:24] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.02 (-0.04%) Bitfinex : 1252.10 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1219.13 (-0.19%) itBit : 1198.99 (0.00%) Kraken : 1209.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1195.91 (0.09%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-04-18 05:43:47] irvingtrader : /sentiment
[2017-04-18 05:43:50] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 22.82 / 77.18 Daily : 33.33 / 66.67 Weekly : 45.56 / 54.44 Monthly : 47.79 / 52.21```
[2017-04-18 05:44:16] irvingtrader : /rekt
[2017-04-18 05:44:17] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 14 hours, 2 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 113000 @ 1205.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 14 hours, 27 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 216000 @ 1203.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 2 days, 6 hours, 41 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-18 05:45:46] rugu : hoping for a epic rekt on ltc :D
[2017-04-18 05:45:56] irvingtrader : ikr?
[2017-04-18 05:47:13] frog : rugu: long or short?
[2017-04-18 05:49:03] rugu : longs getting rekt
[2017-04-18 05:49:24] rugu : but after the bounce, probably wont happen, need to go back to 0.0087
[2017-04-18 05:50:22] frog : some big buys atm
[2017-04-18 05:50:22] KingTuna : LTC dangerous game. Miners are the insiders and in control. They could pump it up again to rekt shorts . We don't know
[2017-04-18 05:51:19] frog : timing is important
[2017-04-18 05:52:08] Ugly_Old_Goat : Polonix is trading par with Bitfiinex, so Bitfinex is not out of line
[2017-04-18 05:55:39] KingTuna : I hope everyone has stops on their BTC long . One bit of bad finex press and holy fucking Jesus
[2017-04-18 05:58:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : KingTuna: No we are massaging your nuts to make you feel good before the squeeze
[2017-04-18 05:59:00] frog : Ugly_Old_Goat: will bitmex follow finex?
[2017-04-18 06:00:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : frog: Wrong question. Will other markets follow finex? Polo has started
[2017-04-18 06:00:50] frog : stamp and ok,,coin?
[2017-04-18 06:00:58] mark121 : /price
[2017-04-18 06:01:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1197.65 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1254.70 (0.21%) The Woodchipper : 1217.35 (-0.15%) itBit : 1199.74 (0.06%) Kraken : 1210.00 (0.08%) GDAX : 1194.36 (-0.13%) SLQ : 17 mins```
[2017-04-18 06:01:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : Plus we took out the weak hand last week
[2017-04-18 06:01:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : Plus market acts like it just can't go up yet it is creeping
[2017-04-18 06:02:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : Finally, ever sharp pop has come back down so shorts will suffer through a pop
[2017-04-18 06:02:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : Only it may be much more that a pop
[2017-04-18 06:03:28] frog : it just a matter of timing entry
[2017-04-18 06:04:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : There is no resistance above 1250 and Finex and Polo have broken through and holding
[2017-04-18 06:04:57] frog : short squeeze looks inevitable
[2017-04-18 06:06:48] Ugly_Old_Goat : plus April has been up month
[2017-04-18 06:07:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Should be at contract highs by 4/30
[2017-04-18 06:09:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : one other thing,
[2017-04-18 06:10:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : If the market does break below 1150 it is a huge buy
[2017-04-18 06:10:47] vgck : Ugly_Old_Goat: Where have you been!? I thought you got REKT after the ETF three drives down? Did you take out another loan to get back in?
[2017-04-18 06:11:15] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: welcome back guy
[2017-04-18 06:12:41] Ahhere : Polo is high because they use usdt which is finex creation and currently weaker than real dollars
[2017-04-18 06:13:53] frog : Ahhere: is it synthrtic USD
[2017-04-18 06:14:10] Ahhere : Tether.io
[2017-04-18 06:14:35] Ahhere : Fake news dollars
[2017-04-18 06:14:47] frog : Ahhere: aha
[2017-04-18 06:15:25] rugu : wow poloniex took a dive to 0.088 right now for ltc
[2017-04-18 06:15:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : I did go to bed one night and got rekt for 40btc. Put 10 back in and loaded up at 900 and made 35 back but back in top25 and number 16 if I cash out
[2017-04-18 06:16:21] Ahhere : Nice
[2017-04-18 06:16:26] frog : rugu: where did you see that?
[2017-04-18 06:16:35] vgck : Ouch, sounds like it worked out ok. Why have you been so quiet? Did you take a timeout to prevent further losses?
[2017-04-18 06:17:03] rugu : https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/ltcbtc/3m
[2017-04-18 06:17:05] Ahhere : rugu: bought straight back up?
[2017-04-18 06:17:12] rugu : but it recovered quicly
[2017-04-18 06:17:23] frog : its an error
[2017-04-18 06:17:27] rugu : No, i dont have a position
[2017-04-18 06:17:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, I completely stopped until market went to 900. Was looking for 880 low
[2017-04-18 06:17:45] rugu : too nervous, and at work now
[2017-04-18 06:18:33] KyllingLolsson : Ugly_Old_Goat: hey you're back
[2017-04-18 06:18:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Also debating whether to just quietly trade or write a book.
[2017-04-18 06:19:05] KyllingLolsson : good morning dudes and gals
[2017-04-18 06:19:13] Ahhere : I got that book you recommended hunters rabbits etc. Good read so far @Ugly_Old_Goat
[2017-04-18 06:19:41] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: morning guy
[2017-04-18 06:19:53] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: morning!
[2017-04-18 06:20:05] KyllingLolsson : Ugly_Old_Goat: losing 40 btc,,, ouch!
[2017-04-18 06:20:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : violated my own rules,
[2017-04-18 06:21:10] rugu : like going all in 100x leverage :D
[2017-04-18 06:21:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : But turned 11.4 btc into 45 trading the right way
[2017-04-18 06:22:48] Ugly_Old_Goat : Plus working on other things check this out https://twitter.com/UglyOldGoat1
[2017-04-18 06:23:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Yes great book
[2017-04-18 06:23:28] frog : rugu: that low trade is showing up now wasn't before
[2017-04-18 06:23:49] rugu : it still is
[2017-04-18 06:23:56] rugu : it was a momentary dump
[2017-04-18 06:25:27] frog : rugu: its been added after
[2017-04-18 06:26:25] rugu : another one just hapened. Take a look
[2017-04-18 06:26:32] rugu : probably someone getting liquidated
[2017-04-18 06:26:44] frog : saw that one
[2017-04-18 06:26:52] Ahhere : Or market dumpers
[2017-04-18 06:27:43] Ahhere : Jihan must be getting thousands of ltc daily
[2017-04-18 06:27:47] KyllingLolsson : Ugly_Old_Goat: i'd read your book! :D
[2017-04-18 06:31:33] frog : rugu: do they have programmed liquidation on polo
[2017-04-18 06:31:58] rugu : all exchanges have afaik
[2017-04-18 06:32:09] frog : ok ty
[2017-04-18 06:32:57] shiroe : so 11 is the new ltc support or 0.009 ~ congrats.
[2017-04-18 06:34:46] frog : check out jihans new tweet
[2017-04-18 06:38:03] rugu : link?
[2017-04-18 06:39:06] frog : @jihan wu and charlie has a funny new one as well
[2017-04-18 06:39:37] InvalidUser : Coffee break is over, get back to work
[2017-04-18 06:41:11] plappa : anyone thinking about shorting ltc here
[2017-04-18 06:41:14] plappa : just might go back to 4 LOL
[2017-04-18 06:42:01] InvalidUser : 9 dollar spread on Polo
[2017-04-18 06:42:17] rugu : frog: link dude, i dont have them saved
[2017-04-18 06:42:42] shiroe : they want more cheap ltc before it takes off, so greedy.
[2017-04-18 06:43:57] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-18 06:43:58] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1198.00 (0.03%) Bitfinex : 1258.30 (0.29%) The Woodchipper : 1221.76 (0.36%) itBit : 1197.99 (-0.15%) Kraken : 1211.00 (0.08%) GDAX : 1195.97 (0.13%) SLQ : 42 mins```
[2017-04-18 06:44:30] rapidtrades : yes im sure that's the thing, they want cheap LTC
[2017-04-18 06:44:44] rapidtrades : and not selling over-priced shitcoin
[2017-04-18 06:45:04] rapidtrades : think like a newb, die like a newb
[2017-04-18 06:47:11] rapidtrades : anti-segwit hash still steady at 65%
[2017-04-18 06:47:20] rapidtrades : sry 35%
[2017-04-18 06:50:27] shiroe : where to know that?
[2017-04-18 06:50:28] shiroe : link?
[2017-04-18 06:51:01] rapidtrades : https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools
[2017-04-18 06:51:19] shiroe : thnx
[2017-04-18 06:54:11] rapidtrades : are they rly fomoing on finex buying? jesus ppl are dumber then i thought
[2017-04-18 06:54:33] rapidtrades : oh well a nicer short i guess
[2017-04-18 06:54:40] shiroe : we are on support line though. :D it'll bounce back soon.
[2017-04-18 06:54:55] Tetsuo : 2017 - the year of exit pumps
[2017-04-18 06:55:05] shiroe : buy on finex, send to polo
[2017-04-18 06:55:06] shiroe : easy
[2017-04-18 06:55:24] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: how's it going mr german
[2017-04-18 06:55:41] Tetsuo : Fine(x)
[2017-04-18 06:59:07] aron : guys i had a question to ask
[2017-04-18 06:59:32] aron : i know it seems a bit stupid but if i had a million dollars and i shorted BTC wouldnt i be able to in effect change the rate?
[2017-04-18 07:00:04] aron : id make a thousand in a few seconds right?
[2017-04-18 07:00:29] TA : You'll have to say goodbye to your million dollars :)
[2017-04-18 07:00:55] aron : im talking about a 5 second trade
[2017-04-18 07:01:01] rugu : aron: you would losee most of it
[2017-04-18 07:01:11] aron : why would i lose most of it?
[2017-04-18 07:01:13] shiroe : could bounce to 96. hmm.
[2017-04-18 07:01:36] TA : aron: try it
[2017-04-18 07:01:40] rugu : cause you won't be able to sell 1million at a shot
[2017-04-18 07:01:45] aron : ohh
[2017-04-18 07:01:54] rugu : ppl will panic sell at market price or a little below yours
[2017-04-18 07:02:04] aron : isnt that good for me?
[2017-04-18 07:02:06] rugu : so price will drop and you lose a fraction of whatever got sold
[2017-04-18 07:02:25] rugu : or you can get rekt by dip buyers, idk
[2017-04-18 07:02:26] aron : short selling means I win
[2017-04-18 07:02:32] rugu : why dont you try it :D
[2017-04-18 07:02:37] aron : i dont have a mill
[2017-04-18 07:02:39] rugu : and give us a headsup
[2017-04-18 07:02:41] Ahhere : aron: nobody knows but your market sell might just be absorbed and not trigger a sell of as you hoped
[2017-04-18 07:02:51] cyphbit : youll end up with less money if it goes wrong
[2017-04-18 07:02:53] mark121 : cept what ur saying means u will lose
[2017-04-18 07:02:57] rugu : take a loan of 1million, and make 5k, and repay it directly
[2017-04-18 07:03:11] TA : You can only win if you are moving along with the market
[2017-04-18 07:03:20] aron : forget derivates, what if i bought shares?
[2017-04-18 07:03:27] aron : people would think its a takeover
[2017-04-18 07:03:33] shiroe : That would be 1k btc.
[2017-04-18 07:03:39] mark121 : I think u invest in tulip bulbs u cud make a killing
[2017-04-18 07:03:41] rugu : take a mortgage on your house and do it, that will be easy 5000 for you
[2017-04-18 07:03:48] cyphbit : invest in dildos for ur face
[2017-04-18 07:03:52] TA : Best bet is to buy 1 million worth of btc and sleep over it for a few years
[2017-04-18 07:03:55] arbitrage101 : aron: why dont you try it and let us know what happen
[2017-04-18 07:03:56] aron : rugu why dont u do it then
[2017-04-18 07:03:59] rugu : invest is japanese sex robot
[2017-04-18 07:04:03] rugu : i dont have a house :D
[2017-04-18 07:04:06] rugu : im on rent
[2017-04-18 07:04:18] mark121 : best bet is to let me trade ur principal il take 25% of profits and u can not go broke
[2017-04-18 07:04:27] cyphbit : btc about to pass 1250$
[2017-04-18 07:04:29] aron : rugu why dont u buy the house?
[2017-04-18 07:04:31] cyphbit : hold on to your nutsack
[2017-04-18 07:04:34] aron : its cheaper to buy than to rent
[2017-04-18 07:04:38] InvalidUser : Chooo Chooo
[2017-04-18 07:04:38] aron : in the long run
[2017-04-18 07:04:40] rugu : no lol
[2017-04-18 07:04:48] aron : rugu but u can sell it
[2017-04-18 07:04:56] aron : after ure done with it
[2017-04-18 07:04:59] mark121 : depends on the area and type of home
[2017-04-18 07:05:00] Ahhere : What price to long ltc again...
[2017-04-18 07:05:09] rugu : after it depreciates and I pay stamp duty and additonal tax and money to the broker
[2017-04-18 07:05:15] cyphbit : what exchange is better to long btc?
[2017-04-18 07:05:24] rugu : bitmex bruh
[2017-04-18 07:05:25] mark121 : yo mama
[2017-04-18 07:05:29] shiroe : btc-e
[2017-04-18 07:05:42] mark121 : shit u guys are bringing out my inner freestyler
[2017-04-18 07:05:46] cyphbit : the price being tied to bitstamp and not real average sux
[2017-04-18 07:05:56] rugu : yo mark, il give you 0.01btc
[2017-04-18 07:05:59] rugu : to invest
[2017-04-18 07:06:07] Ahhere : mark121: u gonna drop a dope rhyme again bruh?!
[2017-04-18 07:06:16] mark121 : i might just have to
[2017-04-18 07:06:22] Ahhere : Oh snap!
[2017-04-18 07:06:33] emcor : guys
[2017-04-18 07:06:37] emcor : the ltc is gonna go up
[2017-04-18 07:06:40] emcor : believe me
[2017-04-18 07:06:43] emcor : its gonna happen
[2017-04-18 07:06:49] rugu : "sure"
[2017-04-18 07:06:55] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-04-18 07:06:55] shiroe : ladies and gets, this is the support of ltc at 888. cheers.
[2017-04-18 07:07:07] Ahhere : I want to believe @emcor what guarantees can you give. Thanks in advance
[2017-04-18 07:07:09] rapidtrades : he's been saying that every hour past 24 hrs
[2017-04-18 07:07:23] rugu : while you been saying 0.007 incoming
[2017-04-18 07:07:30] shiroe : people love 8 number, either resistance or support. :D