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[2017-04-17 21:58:32] emcor : the ltc miners think they can scam us with their segwit dance
[2017-04-17 21:58:51] emcor : but soon they gonna realize, that if they dont do the segwit, nobody will buy their shitty lt
[2017-04-17 21:58:53] emcor : c
[2017-04-17 21:59:47] Tommy : The price is still high. They can hedge using LTC shorts.
[2017-04-17 22:03:04] rapidtrades : tons of hedging prolly happening rn
[2017-04-17 22:03:23] rapidtrades : price 3x from 20 days ago
[2017-04-17 22:05:11] 123abc : short LTC everywhere you can. then dump a million LTC on all the exchanges
[2017-04-17 22:07:42] Tommy : LTC longs are high on hopium when their opponents can use ASIC to mine the coins for much cheaper.
[2017-04-17 22:08:17] rapidtrades : BU ppl only need 1 hash for 3 segwit hashes, block is easy
[2017-04-17 22:08:56] rapidtrades : 24h average already down to 69%
[2017-04-17 22:17:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 15 @ 0.00989
[2017-04-17 22:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1 @ 0.00987
[2017-04-17 22:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 120 @ 0.00987
[2017-04-17 22:18:35] rapidtrades : $10 incoming
[2017-04-17 22:26:25] rapidtrades : sleger: ''Big LTC pump coming!''
[2017-04-17 22:31:55] 123abc : one last shake out
[2017-04-17 22:32:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 93 @ 0.00979
[2017-04-17 22:32:53] Rado : Ha, Deribit removed Bitfinex from their index
[2017-04-17 22:33:23] rapidtrades : yeah bitmex too
[2017-04-17 22:34:45] KingTuna : 123abc: you reckon LTC is toast?
[2017-04-17 22:35:22] rapidtrades : its not 'toast' but they won't get their precious segwit
[2017-04-17 22:35:50] rapidtrades : it will be toast if they try to UASF
[2017-04-17 22:35:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 50 @ 0.00977
[2017-04-17 22:35:57] Tommy : Rado: Is Deribit reliable?
[2017-04-17 22:36:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1350 @ 0.00974
[2017-04-17 22:36:50] 123abc : not sure if LTC will crash. depends how many longed top of LTC and get rekt
[2017-04-17 22:37:11] rangle : why are there still sell orders on Bitfinex USD/BTC? how are they going to withdraw? USD Tether?
[2017-04-17 22:37:29] 123abc : there are 2 shithole places that can accept withdraws
[2017-04-17 22:37:32] rapidtrades : there are always idiots
[2017-04-17 22:37:47] rapidtrades : mtgox had 200% rallies during the last week on fomo
[2017-04-17 22:37:57] rapidtrades : from 100 to 300
[2017-04-17 22:38:31] rapidtrades : that's why we need BFX coin, to trade this shit
[2017-04-17 22:38:39] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-17 22:38:41] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1178.72 (-0.76%) Bitfinex : 1237.10 (0.13%) The Woodchipper : 1219.60 (0.30%) itBit : 1189.97 (-0.17%) Kraken : 1195.21 (-0.23%) GDAX : 1191.56 (0.15%) SLQ : 1 hour, 54 mins```
[2017-04-17 22:39:34] rangle : this is confusing and boring day
[2017-04-17 22:39:40] emcor : guys
[2017-04-17 22:39:45] emcor : the ltc is gonna go up
[2017-04-17 22:39:49] emcor : believe me
[2017-04-17 22:39:59] rapidtrades : its been a great day if u followed by advice and shorted LTC a 12.41
[2017-04-17 22:40:00] emcor : ltc is gonna be cleanse our souls
[2017-04-17 22:40:07] Shoba : okcoin price never seems to follow any consistent logic, just does whatever the last manipulator wants
[2017-04-17 22:40:09] rapidtrades : my*
[2017-04-17 22:40:32] rapidtrades : Shoba: very low volume
[2017-04-17 22:40:57] longbydefault : why is bitfinex price so different from bitstamp?
[2017-04-17 22:41:17] rapidtrades : holy shit u ppl are slow
[2017-04-17 22:41:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 8 @ 0.04033
[2017-04-17 22:41:39] rangle : wheres the OKCoin quote from in /price , i see 7070 CNY / BTC = $1027
[2017-04-17 22:41:47] rapidtrades : usd
[2017-04-17 22:42:04] rapidtrades : international site
[2017-04-17 22:43:19] rangle : thanks
[2017-04-17 22:43:50] 123abc : lol @ eth dump
[2017-04-17 22:44:52] rangle : @longbydefault finex stopped USD withdrawals, so BTC is worth more there putting buy pressure on the supply of BTC
[2017-04-17 22:45:16] KingTuna : Amazing shake out in LTC. Double topped as I said and now back up to supersede 0.0114 previous high
[2017-04-17 22:46:01] shiroe : finex stopped usd withdrawals, china stopped margin trading & btc withdrawals. what the hell to the moon!
[2017-04-17 22:46:47] MikeHunt : tempting to short but if btc goes supa nova then u'll get liq-ed b4 it dumps
[2017-04-17 22:47:59] shiroe : eth dumping, 50 usd max for now. factom is on support, bull. xmr and dash, downtrend as always after epic pump for couple of years. hmmm.. pattern.
[2017-04-17 22:50:05] shiroe : someone decided to sell his eth ico, his investment of 19btc turned 1500 btc. easy.
[2017-04-17 22:51:02] MikeHunt : eth down to $20 floor me thinks
[2017-04-17 22:52:56] shiroe : maybe just 30, 40% loss.
[2017-04-17 22:53:39] shiroe : ETH pattern. 30 cents to 1 dollar to 60 cents. then to 5 usd back to 3 usd. 10 usd to 6 usd. 20 usd to 14 usd. now 50 to 30.
[2017-04-17 22:53:49] longbydefault : /price
[2017-04-17 22:53:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1179.05 (0.03%) Bitfinex : 1238.40 (0.11%) The Woodchipper : 1215.55 (-0.33%) itBit : 1196.39 (0.54%) Kraken : 1196.01 (0.07%) GDAX : 1192.49 (0.08%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-04-17 22:53:56] MikeHunt : shiroe: im just going by EMA
[2017-04-17 22:54:18] rapidtrades : lol Charlie is fed up https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/854103402472591360
[2017-04-17 22:54:25] shiroe : MikeHunt: nice. maybe the worst is 20?
[2017-04-17 22:54:26] rapidtrades : bish u started it
[2017-04-17 22:55:14] rapidtrades : I'm fed up after my pump idea failed to force a solution to non-existing problem
[2017-04-17 22:55:25] rapidtrades : Charlie 'the pump' Lee
[2017-04-17 22:55:38] MikeHunt : shiroe: perhaps, dip to $20 then settle at $30
[2017-04-17 22:55:47] rapidtrades : what a grade A asshole
[2017-04-17 22:55:56] shiroe : MikeHunt: then shoots up 100 next year. lol.
[2017-04-17 22:56:06] shiroe : been following eth since the beginning. lmfao
[2017-04-17 22:56:17] rapidtrades : why don't u nuke the mining industry next to get bigger blocks which litecoin doesn't need
[2017-04-17 22:56:19] shiroe : pattern never gets old.
[2017-04-17 22:56:19] MikeHunt : shiroe: eth should be able to get to $100 without issues
[2017-04-17 22:56:21] rapidtrades : greedy asshole
[2017-04-17 22:56:29] rapidtrades : just take ur 250% profit and run
[2017-04-17 22:57:06] shiroe : litecoin will get 50, no worries. it is forming a cup and handle too like btc.
[2017-04-17 22:57:38] shiroe : just zoom out to 1 week chart. haha
[2017-04-17 22:58:04] KingTuna : https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/854103402472591360
[2017-04-17 22:58:11] shiroe : fucking similar pattern. epic pump, then 90% value loss, then back to ATH.
[2017-04-17 22:58:40] shiroe : btc from 1200 to 150, back to 1200.
[2017-04-17 22:58:50] shiroe : ltc from 50 to 3 bucks back to 50. lol
[2017-04-17 22:59:15] Tommy : I can't understand why this Charlie cares about the price. Probably he is colluding with the miners to manipulate and profit from the market too.
[2017-04-17 22:59:19] shiroe : give it a year, always buy the dip :D
[2017-04-17 23:00:23] rapidtrades : Tommy: he alluded to that in his letter to the miners
[2017-04-17 23:01:26] rapidtrades : every top 10 coin is pumping but ours so 'lets give the market what it wants'
[2017-04-17 23:01:36] shiroe : charlie wants to be #2 again, gold to silver. thats why he wants to pump price. :D
[2017-04-17 23:01:36] rapidtrades : its all about them $$$$$$$$
[2017-04-17 23:01:41] aguia7 : Why is the price here so different from bitifinex?
[2017-04-17 23:01:55] shiroe : we dont follow finex now.
[2017-04-17 23:02:03] Tommy : Charlie is trolling as much as that Wang Chun does.
[2017-04-17 23:02:32] shiroe : ltc wants 1B marketcap too!
[2017-04-17 23:02:38] shiroe : price 22 :D
[2017-04-17 23:02:42] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/63cgfc/my_letter_to_chinese_miners_and_pool_operators_on/
[2017-04-17 23:03:18] rapidtrades : ofc he first talks to miners THEN publishes the letter after price is up 100%
[2017-04-17 23:05:38] KingTuna : LTC 1 day chart still looks good!!
[2017-04-17 23:05:42] Tommy : rapidtrades: It's all so fishy. His brother is the boss of BTCC and he's probably friends with the miners. He can really stick in the middle and sway both sides to his benefit.
[2017-04-17 23:06:09] Tommy : rapidtrades: I won't be surprise if this is making him more money than working for Coinbase.
[2017-04-17 23:07:28] rapidtrades : everyone is in LTC for the quick buck, hard to see a good solution here
[2017-04-17 23:07:43] rapidtrades : greedy ppl can't think clearly, they will destroy the coin
[2017-04-17 23:07:47] shiroe : probably. founders has 30% of the company / market value. Wanna be rich? Be a founder.
[2017-04-17 23:08:37] rapidtrades : pumpers are desprate for segwit to cash out, they're willing to risk a chain split with UASF
[2017-04-17 23:10:39] shiroe : with the withdrawals blocked, we can see 1300 despite the chartist says it'll correct to 1k? lol
[2017-04-17 23:12:02] KingTuna : Mark121 did you sell Ltc at the double top? 0.0114 like you mentioned? Longed again?
[2017-04-17 23:24:56] rapidtrades : 1525/1957 (77.93%) blocks signaling! 6048 out of 8064 (75%) blocks are required to activate.
[2017-04-17 23:25:22] rapidtrades : 24h average down to 68%
[2017-04-17 23:27:50] rapidtrades : if its not activated this period (next 10 days) it will pretty much kill the pump
[2017-04-17 23:28:03] rapidtrades : hot money will move on find some other coin to fomo buy
[2017-04-17 23:34:39] 123abc : big ltc dump polo
[2017-04-17 23:41:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.00962
[2017-04-17 23:42:37] 123abc : ltc big rekts incoming
[2017-04-17 23:42:42] sleger : rapidtrades: idiot, it pumped 2$ (20%) a couple of hours after i said it
[2017-04-17 23:42:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 300 @ 0.00949
[2017-04-17 23:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1582 @ 0.00936
[2017-04-17 23:43:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.00935
[2017-04-17 23:43:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.00935
[2017-04-17 23:43:33] 123abc : wow btce
[2017-04-17 23:43:35] 123abc : $10.23
[2017-04-17 23:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.00923
[2017-04-17 23:45:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 9 @ 0.00921
[2017-04-17 23:51:42] rapidtrades : sleger: $11.7 to 12.8 is not 20%
[2017-04-17 23:52:03] rapidtrades : certianly not a big pump either, its within the daily volatility
[2017-04-17 23:52:37] rapidtrades : 10 day ATR at $1.32
[2017-04-17 23:54:08] rapidtrades : over 50% anti-segwit last 20 blocks, could be just variance
[2017-04-17 23:54:35] rapidtrades : its gonna help to get <75% faster
[2017-04-17 23:56:49] rapidtrades : love when this chat is so quiet, means everyone is long money and im making it
[2017-04-17 23:57:01] rapidtrades : losing*
[2017-04-17 23:57:15] 123abc : i longed ltc dip. waiting for that 10% bounce
[2017-04-17 23:57:51] 123abc : bitfinex next leg up soon
[2017-04-17 23:58:31] rapidtrades : price <10 by the time segwit is fullly blocked
[2017-04-17 23:59:04] shiroe : segwit or not, it will be implemented. buy the dip around 8
[2017-04-17 23:59:04] shiroe : :D
[2017-04-17 23:59:20] rapidtrades : 8 is fine by me, that's my new average
[2017-04-17 23:59:39] frog : since jihan reverted the %age is 64% for segwit and he is not even using close to all his hash, with disclosed has he can get to 44% so can basically block UASF as well
[2017-04-18 00:00:05] rapidtrades : with disclosed?
[2017-04-18 00:00:41] frog : Ni he will need to put on a extra couple of antminers to get to 50%
[2017-04-18 00:00:59] rapidtrades : thats not even english
[2017-04-18 00:01:13] frog : ??
[2017-04-18 00:01:51] rapidtrades : i think litecorners will panic sell once 74 is hit cos they're always slow as f*ck
[2017-04-18 00:02:05] rapidtrades : also in the head
[2017-04-18 00:02:08] frog : i think panic when UASF fail
[2017-04-18 00:02:32] rapidtrades : segwit is nearly priced in, has to be priced out first
[2017-04-18 00:03:00] frog : i read some of the comments on reddit its no surprise that jihan can outsmart his opponents
[2017-04-18 00:03:16] Tommy : rapidtrades: Most crypto traders are simple-minded, or we wouldn't see straight up for days.
[2017-04-18 00:04:12] rapidtrades : true
[2017-04-18 00:04:18] shiroe : red days ~
[2017-04-18 00:04:24] frog : traders are not jihans oppnents
[2017-04-18 00:05:00] rapidtrades : u can tell there's some new stupid money cos they keep buying after events are 100% certain
[2017-04-18 00:05:21] frog : maybe just profit taking shorts
[2017-04-18 00:05:39] Tommy : and they buy 4% above spot just days ago
[2017-04-18 00:05:53] rapidtrades : i mean like when segwit got to 75% few weeks ago and they still bought at 12.xx
[2017-04-18 00:06:15] frog : it was going to moon, sleger confirmed this
[2017-04-18 00:06:16] rapidtrades : they don't understand basic trading concepts
[2017-04-18 00:06:33] rapidtrades : buy the rumor, sell the fact etc
[2017-04-18 00:06:59] rapidtrades : like now they're too slow to price out segwit, which is bound to happen in next 24 hrs
[2017-04-18 00:07:39] shillosopher : unless jihad wu suddenly supports sw again lol
[2017-04-18 00:07:47] frog : charlie will try UASF which will give them hope
[2017-04-18 00:08:12] Tommy : Hopefully Charlie will make it crash slower.
[2017-04-18 00:08:20] rapidtrades : earliest date for UASF is june 1st
[2017-04-18 00:08:25] rapidtrades : hot money will not stick around
[2017-04-18 00:08:29] Tommy : Just make sure longs pay up for the futures contracts.
[2017-04-18 00:09:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 100 @ 0.00948
[2017-04-18 00:09:56] 123abc : ltc going back up
[2017-04-18 00:09:59] 123abc : like clock work
[2017-04-18 00:11:10] MikeHunt : on finex we may well see a dump as no new fiat
[2017-04-18 00:11:24] MikeHunt : but then ppl realise finex = fingox
[2017-04-18 00:11:26] MikeHunt : then cash out
[2017-04-18 00:11:29] MikeHunt : leads to pump
[2017-04-18 00:11:31] 123abc : why would you dump and bail the traders out
[2017-04-18 00:11:35] 123abc : let them buy cheaper to withdraw
[2017-04-18 00:11:55] MikeHunt : im suggesting some may think they sell out at high price
[2017-04-18 00:11:59] MikeHunt : wait for fiat to resume
[2017-04-18 00:12:02] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-18 00:12:05] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1178.19 (-0.07%) Bitfinex : 1237.60 (-0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1216.99 (0.12%) itBit : 1194.98 (-0.12%) Kraken : 1198.72 (0.23%) GDAX : 1190.00 (-0.21%) SLQ : 1 hour, 18 mins```
[2017-04-18 00:15:23] shiroe : good thing it dipped from 13 to 11. lmfao
[2017-04-18 00:15:29] shiroe : now way to 15! GO
[2017-04-18 00:19:40] frog : 123abc: whats your long entry price for ltc?
[2017-04-18 00:20:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00945
[2017-04-18 00:22:29] rapidtrades : who's staying up for the big LTC crash?
[2017-04-18 00:22:47] rapidtrades : we're half way there!
[2017-04-18 00:22:58] 123abc : .0092
[2017-04-18 00:23:10] frog : GL
[2017-04-18 00:23:11] 123abc : some idiot sold 5000 contracts at the bottom
[2017-04-18 00:23:23] rapidtrades : lol @bottom
[2017-04-18 00:23:41] skn : dear bitmex admins
[2017-04-18 00:24:03] frog : there was a some support around 0.00920 good opp to add
[2017-04-18 00:24:09] 123abc : bitfinex btc almost new high
[2017-04-18 00:24:14] jjjj : nice btc wall on bitfenix
[2017-04-18 00:24:19] skn : why are you still considering bitfinex for the xbt/usd index? thats not USD thats USDT a useless currency right now since you cant do anything
[2017-04-18 00:24:32] rapidtrades : its already out
[2017-04-18 00:25:18] cg : will be interesting to see how other exchanges react to bfx short squeeze
[2017-04-18 00:25:35] skn : rapidtrades where can i see which exchanges are being considered?
[2017-04-18 00:25:59] rapidtrades : only okc and stamp right now
[2017-04-18 00:26:14] rapidtrades : gdax will be back in after some changes
[2017-04-18 00:26:40] 123abc : cg: how many still short on bitfinex
[2017-04-18 00:27:06] 123abc : 21,530 BTC still short on Bitfinex i think
[2017-04-18 00:27:23] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-18 00:27:25] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1178.42 (0.02%) Bitfinex : 1245.90 (0.67%) The Woodchipper : 1218.44 (0.12%) itBit : 1194.98 (0.00%) Kraken : 1201.30 (0.22%) GDAX : 1193.21 (0.27%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-04-18 00:27:36] rapidtrades : yikes 1246
[2017-04-18 00:27:46] rapidtrades : its really diverging now
[2017-04-18 00:27:48] cg : ya
[2017-04-18 00:27:59] cg : just wait for the squeeze ;)
[2017-04-18 00:28:01] 123abc : new btc high on bitfinex
[2017-04-18 00:28:07] rapidtrades : arb bots will be nuked if owners don't turn them off
[2017-04-18 00:28:17] frog : will pop
[2017-04-18 00:28:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.00928
[2017-04-18 00:28:45] Jsgh : /price
[2017-04-18 00:28:46] rapidtrades : i may add more if it pops due to finex
[2017-04-18 00:28:46] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1179.65 (0.10%) Bitfinex : 1247.00 (0.09%) The Woodchipper : 1221.74 (0.27%) itBit : 1194.98 (0.00%) Kraken : 1198.84 (-0.20%) GDAX : 1193.95 (0.06%) SLQ : 1 min, ```
[2017-04-18 00:29:13] rapidtrades : cos that would be such a bulshit reason to fomo
[2017-04-18 00:29:22] 123abc : think btc will go up elsewhere if bitfinex pumps
[2017-04-18 00:29:24] 123abc : ?
[2017-04-18 00:29:37] shiroe : to 1300!
[2017-04-18 00:29:44] rapidtrades : only short-term cos crypto ppl are dumb
[2017-04-18 00:29:53] rapidtrades : and some bots are left running etc
[2017-04-18 00:30:02] frog : rapidtrades: need stamp to go up
[2017-04-18 00:30:27] cg : rapidtrades: add more to your short?
[2017-04-18 00:30:33] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-04-18 00:31:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 500 @ 0.005168
[2017-04-18 00:32:09] skn : rapidtrades bitfinex is still showing up
[2017-04-18 00:32:17] skn : i thought you said it wasnt been taken into account
[2017-04-18 00:32:33] skn : also wtf is "the woodchipper"
[2017-04-18 00:32:41] rapidtrades : showing up where
[2017-04-18 00:32:50] skn : /price
[2017-04-18 00:32:52] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1179.63 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1246.20 (-0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1221.31 (-0.04%) itBit : 1194.98 (0.00%) Kraken : 1197.87 (-0.08%) GDAX : 1192.70 (-0.10%) SLQ : 4 mins```
[2017-04-18 00:33:15] rapidtrades : that's just a usermade bot, not official
[2017-04-18 00:33:24] Jsgh : It isn't being averaged in. Just still showing in that list
[2017-04-18 00:33:28] frog : thats not the index
[2017-04-18 00:33:36] cg : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/market-disruption-event-bitfinex/
[2017-04-18 00:37:28] frog : wang chun and charlie now arguing on twitter
[2017-04-18 00:37:41] rapidtrades : goooood
[2017-04-18 00:38:19] rapidtrades : https://twitter.com/f2pool_wangchun/status/854131088414826496
[2017-04-18 00:38:27] rapidtrades : lol that's hilarious
[2017-04-18 00:38:29] foobar : bitfinex should just offer usdt
[2017-04-18 00:39:28] frog : rapidtrades: f2 also reducing hash
[2017-04-18 00:39:53] InvalidUser : Livestream of the Twitter war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yb7A7xqzho
[2017-04-18 00:41:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 1 @ 0.005091
[2017-04-18 00:41:48] foobar : ouch
[2017-04-18 00:41:57] foobar : bitfinex is blocking all fiat currencies in and out
[2017-04-18 00:41:58] frog : re btc, if someone happy to withdraw with coin on finex may be profitable play to hunt the many shorts above 1250
[2017-04-18 00:42:27] foobar : https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/200/review
[2017-04-18 00:42:55] rapidtrades : frog: no? still at 1300
[2017-04-18 00:43:01] InvalidUser : On a good not Finex's volume is up
[2017-04-18 00:43:06] InvalidUser : *note
[2017-04-18 00:43:35] foobar : i have 10 eth locked up in financing there for the next 18 hours
[2017-04-18 00:43:36] foobar : :/
[2017-04-18 00:43:51] rapidtrades : wang chung wont support UASF so it will be a contentious and very messy fork
[2017-04-18 00:44:05] rapidtrades : if Charlie is dumb enough to go that route
[2017-04-18 00:44:16] frog : i think there will be covering above 1250 if that drags up bitmex index would be good place to short but need stamp to move up as well
[2017-04-18 00:44:30] rapidtrades : this is why we need BFX coin
[2017-04-18 00:44:43] frog : rapidtrades: lol
[2017-04-18 00:44:53] cg : well, ppl are still shorting on bfx for whatever reason...
[2017-04-18 00:44:56] rapidtrades : im being serious
[2017-04-18 00:45:04] frog : i know
[2017-04-18 00:45:05] foobar : well, the xbtusd lending rate is still based off of lending rates at bitfinex for btc and usd
[2017-04-18 00:45:14] foobar : not sure how that is going to play out over here
[2017-04-18 00:45:31] cg : huh?
[2017-04-18 00:45:57] foobar : "XBTUSD uses a Premium Index to calculate funding rates. The underlying interest rates are quoted in the .XBTBON8H Index and .USDBON8H Index, and the premium rate is quoted in the .XBTUSDPI8H Index. These are used to calculate the final funding rate. "
[2017-04-18 00:46:18] foobar : "The BitMEX .XBTBON8H Index is a 8-hour TWAP of the .XBTBON Premium Rate at Bitfinex ending at 12:00 UTC from the .XBTBON Index. These values are used for funding rates and are provided 8 hours in advance"
[2017-04-18 00:46:45] foobar : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTBON
[2017-04-18 00:48:30] cg : ah I see
[2017-04-18 00:49:18] rapidtrades : anti-segwit crowd steadily pumping at 35-40%
[2017-04-18 00:49:49] rapidtrades : they will force it below 75% in next 8 hrs
[2017-04-18 00:50:44] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-18 00:50:47] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1180.96 (0.11%) Bitfinex : 1245.60 (-0.05%) The Woodchipper : 1218.00 (-0.27%) itBit : 1197.99 (0.25%) Kraken : 1201.33 (0.29%) GDAX : 1193.84 (0.10%) SLQ : 17 mins```
[2017-04-18 00:55:57] 123abc : LTC difficulty went up 20% recently
[2017-04-18 00:56:17] shiroe : so much manipulation :D
[2017-04-18 00:56:37] frog : 123abc: about 1 minute ago
[2017-04-18 00:56:46] 123abc : yeah
[2017-04-18 00:58:47] frog : mm's are currently offering good price here for ltc longs
[2017-04-18 00:58:57] frog : trying to balance i guess
[2017-04-18 00:58:59] rapidtrades : that should help jihan no? he has more efficient miners
[2017-04-18 00:59:18] frog : no difference but increase cost for all players
[2017-04-18 01:00:17] frog : will affect miners like the guy who was asking for donations on reddit to keep signalling segwit for example
[2017-04-18 01:03:36] 123abc : yeah
[2017-04-18 01:03:45] frog : 62% signalling in last 2 hours
[2017-04-18 01:04:01] 123abc : going to be under 75% over all soon
[2017-04-18 01:04:40] 123abc : ltc market maker has left the building
[2017-04-18 01:05:03] shiroe : it is all manipulation. sell at the peak, promote fud, buy the dip, rinse and repeat. :D
[2017-04-18 01:05:21] shiroe : 13 tops, back to 8. then segwit again, profit all over.
[2017-04-18 01:06:05] rapidtrades : its not FUD if they push signalling <75% is it
[2017-04-18 01:06:18] rapidtrades : its a FACT
[2017-04-18 01:07:13] shiroe : drama all over. But one thing is sure, ltc will reach ath again.
[2017-04-18 01:07:21] shiroe : same chart like btc.
[2017-04-18 01:17:31] rapidtrades : just wait until it drops below 75% and idiots on reddit lose their shit again
[2017-04-18 01:17:37] rapidtrades : it will be epic
[2017-04-18 01:18:32] jjjj : btc will brake 1220 ? how U think ?
[2017-04-18 01:27:24] mark121 : /price
[2017-04-18 01:27:26] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1181.13 (0.01%) Bitfinex : 1238.50 (-0.57%) The Woodchipper : 1215.00 (-0.25%) itBit : 1197.99 (0.00%) Kraken : 1199.91 (-0.12%) GDAX : 1191.40 (-0.20%) SLQ : 36 mins```
[2017-04-18 01:27:51] mark121 : these price differneces are gettin frustrated
[2017-04-18 01:27:59] mark121 : it hurts trading
[2017-04-18 01:28:05] mark121 : les u arbman
[2017-04-18 01:29:08] mark121 : daily is showing a penannt btw
[2017-04-18 01:33:41] InvalidUser : There are going to be a lot of LTC long Rekt's
[2017-04-18 01:34:33] MikeHunt : im hodling for now
[2017-04-18 01:34:40] MikeHunt : lot of uncertainty
[2017-04-18 01:38:40] mark121 : ltc?
[2017-04-18 02:00:17] rapidtrades : only 64% segwit past 24 hrs
[2017-04-18 02:01:33] rapidtrades : overall down to 77%
[2017-04-18 02:20:20] InvalidUser : If Polo can keep there price up that high they may be able to capture a bunch of fleeing Finex users
[2017-04-18 02:20:51] InvalidUser : They loose $50 a coin just by showing up a stamp
[2017-04-18 02:21:00] mark121 : polo has poopy btc trading
[2017-04-18 02:21:42] InvalidUser : I have never traded there. Poopy is bad right?
[2017-04-18 02:21:44] mark121 : that saved 50 dollars would quite quickly become insignifcant when compared to the opportunity cost of trading 1x
[2017-04-18 02:21:58] mark121 : no margin trading for btc
[2017-04-18 02:22:03] InvalidUser : That sux
[2017-04-18 02:22:21] mark121 : yea, definitely poop :)
[2017-04-18 02:23:42] mark121 : golem rally for short long scalp
[2017-04-18 02:24:15] mark121 : (a long trade) lol that cud be confusing
[2017-04-18 02:30:42] shiroe : stamp wants 1200
[2017-04-18 02:46:06] InvalidUser : <---- Puts on seat belt
[2017-04-18 02:46:21] mark121 : go btc
[2017-04-18 02:46:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 1206.7
[2017-04-18 02:47:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 54100 @ 1208.7 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-18 02:47:30] shillosopher : rekt
[2017-04-18 02:50:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Restoring the lost art of sound commercial bankiing resolves scalling issue https://twitter.com/UglyOldGoat1
[2017-04-18 02:56:30] JerryBuss : can someone explain how u rebuy rekt positions ?
[2017-04-18 02:56:37] flux : how do we get into the new chart beta for bitmex?
[2017-04-18 02:56:56] shillosopher : JerryBuss: deposit more bitcoins lol
[2017-04-18 02:57:12] JerryBuss : no
[2017-04-18 02:57:19] JerryBuss : when someone else gets rekt,
[2017-04-18 02:57:29] JerryBuss : apparently u can market buy their position and pay maker fee
[2017-04-18 02:57:44] flux : JerryBuss: you will see it in the order books
[2017-04-18 02:57:55] flux : in bold
[2017-04-18 02:58:12] JerryBuss : and how do you know how much can be bought ?
[2017-04-18 02:59:52] mark121 : it shows a number of conttracts
[2017-04-18 03:00:08] mark121 : its like any other order jut shows up in orange or whatever
[2017-04-18 03:09:38] elmorte : ni hao
[2017-04-18 03:10:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 1000 @ 0.005267
[2017-04-18 03:17:21] Rookie : elmorte: there's a chinese trollbox, fyi
[2017-04-18 03:18:15] arbitrage101 : お元気ですか？
[2017-04-18 03:19:37] MikeHunt : seems finex is going alonr
[2017-04-18 03:19:39] MikeHunt : alone
[2017-04-18 03:19:54] MikeHunt : nearly $60 prem
[2017-04-18 03:20:04] shillosopher : bfx is the future
[2017-04-18 03:20:09] shillosopher : buyb42l8
[2017-04-18 03:21:48] elmorte : Rookie: thanks, I'm a bit of a rookie myself
[2017-04-18 03:22:44] Rookie : this is one of the best place I've found for crypto infos
[2017-04-18 03:23:16] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-04-18 03:23:21] Rookie : it's kind of sad really
[2017-04-18 03:23:24] arbitrage101 : if you ignore what rapid said
[2017-04-18 03:23:30] arbitrage101 : this is a great trollbox
[2017-04-18 03:23:33] MikeHunt : or counter trade what he says
[2017-04-18 03:23:52] Rookie : arbitrage101: +5 or 6
[2017-04-18 03:26:00] BigJElectronics : It's gonna make MT Gox 2 if it keeps it up, I think that's the real problem. Rekt musical chairs for everyone.
[2017-04-18 03:27:14] foobar : i don't understand all this mt gox talk
[2017-04-18 03:27:23] foobar : you can still withdraw crypto currencies
[2017-04-18 03:29:22] Rookie : I'll be a bit amused if OKcoin USD suspends withdrawals and the index becomes Bitstamp
[2017-04-18 03:29:50] InvalidUser : foobar: Gox started the same way.
[2017-04-18 03:30:48] Rookie : InvalidUser: how long did it all take to play out?
[2017-04-18 03:31:22] BigJElectronics : I think the only major difference is the amount of fiat coming in consistently over a longer term. It's definitely not good for new participant confidence.
[2017-04-18 03:31:26] InvalidUser : I think about 3 months but there were warning signs before like the price being much higher theneveryone else
[2017-04-18 03:33:33] InvalidUser : Funding in 25
[2017-04-18 03:36:16] MikeHunt : i think it was 3 months after bank suspension, mtgox went under
[2017-04-18 03:38:17] arbitrage101 : the entire episode with mtgox took about 6-9 months
[2017-04-18 03:38:33] arbitrage101 : started with gov confiscating their money in US
[2017-04-18 03:39:30] InvalidUser : So I just talked to the Bitcoin CEO and she said that after funding we are going to pump the shit out of this thing
[2017-04-18 03:39:56] Rookie : the trolls here have truth in their lies
[2017-04-18 03:41:20] Rookie : some of the 'experts' seem to have baaad truth, I can't tell how much of it is trolling . . .
[2017-04-18 03:41:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : what is happening at Bitfinex and happen at almost all alt coins because they are centralized and exposed. When crowd realiizes this there will be alt coin exodus
[2017-04-18 03:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 494 @ 0.00938
[2017-04-18 03:41:56] InvalidUser : Ugly_Old_Goat: I agree with that, it's mostly new money in the alt's
[2017-04-18 03:42:04] MikeHunt : so far no alt has kept pace with a btc dump
[2017-04-18 03:42:13] MikeHunt : a major one
[2017-04-18 03:42:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Do not be surprised if we wake up some morning and btc is 300 highr
[2017-04-18 03:42:22] Rookie : that's kind of why I find this place a valuable source of info
[2017-04-18 03:43:06] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: or lower, if finex goes insolvent
[2017-04-18 03:43:49] Apocalyptic : Such mooning today
[2017-04-18 03:43:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Bitfinex is not insolvent,
[2017-04-18 03:44:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : The exit ramp is simply closed
[2017-04-18 03:44:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : The is just the beginning
[2017-04-18 03:44:28] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: "if"
[2017-04-18 03:44:52] Rookie : what other exchanges were around during the gox episode?
[2017-04-18 03:45:00] MikeHunt : my only issue with suggesting it will pump is no fiat deposits
[2017-04-18 03:45:06] Apocalyptic : Goat: the USD exit ramp for now
[2017-04-18 03:45:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : But hey are not. any problem getting btc out?
[2017-04-18 03:45:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not that I know of
[2017-04-18 03:45:16] arbitrage101 : Rookie: bitstamp, bitfinex and btc-e
[2017-04-18 03:45:24] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: btc in/out = fine, fiat in, nope, fiat out, sorta
[2017-04-18 03:45:45] arbitrage101 : their combine volume is less than 10%
[2017-04-18 03:45:49] Apocalyptic : Maybe next thing you know btc exit ramp closed too
[2017-04-18 03:45:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : arbitrage101: Exactly, extremely bullish
[2017-04-18 03:46:00] arbitrage101 : so bitstamp and finex benefit the most
[2017-04-18 03:46:08] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: bullish until they stopped fiat deposit
[2017-04-18 03:46:15] arbitrage101 : when mtgox went under
[2017-04-18 03:46:28] arbitrage101 : this time, bitmex will probably benefit the most if finex go under
[2017-04-18 03:47:01] Rookie : BitMEX is too cool for fiat
[2017-04-18 03:47:12] Rookie : only a fool would wear the crown
[2017-04-18 03:47:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Wrong again. This may be beginning. Banks may very well not wire to other exchanges
[2017-04-18 03:47:30] arbitrage101 : there are sufficient infrastructure in place to not rely on fiat exchange
[2017-04-18 03:47:48] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: well the others tend to obey the laws of there area
[2017-04-18 03:48:09] Rookie : arbitrage101: ?
[2017-04-18 03:48:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : And bitfinex did not?
[2017-04-18 03:48:39] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: well all we know atm is a government anti-corruption/money laundering official is involved
[2017-04-18 03:48:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : If the entrance ramps are closed btc will explode and alts become ddvunerable
[2017-04-18 03:49:21] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: problem with it being bullish is no fiat deposits
[2017-04-18 03:49:27] MikeHunt : reduces demand
[2017-04-18 03:49:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Exactly. I have had 3 bank accounts closed for same reason and everything I do is up and up
[2017-04-18 03:50:04] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: closed for what?
[2017-04-18 03:50:19] InvalidUser : If you can not send money to buy Bitcoins the value of ones you have will go though the roof. Rare things are more valuable
[2017-04-18 03:50:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Wrong again. If entrance ramps are closed currency collapse is near
[2017-04-18 03:50:53] Apocalyptic : InvalidUser: people will buy on LBC
[2017-04-18 03:50:58] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: you can buy bitcoins elsewhere though
[2017-04-18 03:51:08] Rookie : I was thinking crypto might do better long, long term if its totally outside of the current financial system
[2017-04-18 03:51:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : I hope I am wrong. But this looks serious and is not bearish
[2017-04-18 03:51:21] plappa : well how can you buy crypto rookie
[2017-04-18 03:51:22] plappa : lol
[2017-04-18 03:51:28] Rookie : but I am quite naive sometimes
[2017-04-18 03:51:34] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: you think USD collapse near?
[2017-04-18 03:51:43] Rookie : plappa: with goods and services
[2017-04-18 03:51:57] plappa : then what will people exchange for
[2017-04-18 03:52:00] plappa : btc/blowjobs?
[2017-04-18 03:52:05] Apocalyptic : plappa: lbc
[2017-04-18 03:52:07] Rookie : money is already breaking in my society
[2017-04-18 03:52:21] shillosopher : I would be surprised if USD collapses soon. A lot of bandaids will be implemented before it does/if it ever does
[2017-04-18 03:52:34] Rookie : it looks like monopoly money and people don't trust it as much
[2017-04-18 03:52:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: I have not idea. Hope not. But if I am right we will go hyuperbolic
[2017-04-18 03:52:46] MikeHunt : look at venuezuela, thats most likely future, slow hard painful decline
[2017-04-18 03:52:54] Rookie : and things are 'great' here, relatively speaking
[2017-04-18 03:53:00] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: i'd agree if fiat deposits werent stopped
[2017-04-18 03:53:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : They are stopped on Bitfinex
[2017-04-18 03:53:24] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: yes
[2017-04-18 03:53:43] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: so only source of buyers is people cashing out fiat they already have there
[2017-04-18 03:53:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : Question is this isolated or just the beginning
[2017-04-18 03:54:19] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: thats the thing, if faith in bitfinex is lost, it will go hyperbollic
[2017-04-18 03:54:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Agreed. But if this spread we will go hyper
[2017-04-18 03:54:47] MikeHunt : i dont think it will spread
[2017-04-18 03:54:54] MikeHunt : finex had a rather unique setup
[2017-04-18 03:54:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bitfines will be ok as they have btc
[2017-04-18 03:55:00] MikeHunt : HK base => taiwanese bank
[2017-04-18 03:55:20] InvalidUser : There is quite a bit of money to be made if you can be the intermediary bank for any exchange. Someone will want that money.. Like Japan.
[2017-04-18 03:55:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Blocking new buyers will increase demand
[2017-04-18 03:55:46] InvalidUser : At best they will just block the US
[2017-04-18 03:55:49] MikeHunt : how exactly?
[2017-04-18 03:55:51] InvalidUser : Canada is pro BTC
[2017-04-18 03:55:55] InvalidUser : Japan is
[2017-04-18 03:55:58] InvalidUser : Russia is
[2017-04-18 03:56:08] InvalidUser : India is
[2017-04-18 03:56:09] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: how does restricting demand increase demand?
[2017-04-18 03:56:10] InvalidUser : China is
[2017-04-18 03:56:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Agreed, i have done quite well and that is why I have been shut down 3 times
[2017-04-18 03:56:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Demand is not restricted, but ability to buy is
[2017-04-18 03:57:10] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: which is what matters...
[2017-04-18 03:57:20] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: if ppl cant deposit fiat to buy, price dont go up
[2017-04-18 03:58:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Wrong price will sky rocket as market wants but can't have
[2017-04-18 03:58:15] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: that makes no sense
[2017-04-18 03:58:37] shillosopher : if you cannot buy, supply is "restricted"
[2017-04-18 03:58:45] Rookie : this gunna be good :)
[2017-04-18 03:58:50] MikeHunt : people can buy elsewhere...
[2017-04-18 03:58:52] Rookie : no matter how it plays out
[2017-04-18 03:59:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Do your homework, It is similar to price controls under Nixon
[2017-04-18 03:59:07] Rookie : as long as I don't get rekt
[2017-04-18 03:59:12] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: that would be true if finex had a monopoly
[2017-04-18 03:59:18] MikeHunt : but it doesnt
[2017-04-18 03:59:27] shillosopher : Rookie: yep, I'm eagerly awaiting the fireworks :)
[2017-04-18 03:59:54] mark121 : 10 seec funding
[2017-04-18 04:00:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : Agreed, what I am saying is this may well be the beginning. What happens if all exchanges annouce no new fiiat deposits
[2017-04-18 04:00:37] MikeHunt : thats like saying if asteroid hits earth
[2017-04-18 04:00:42] Rookie : I like the idea of tokens like TIME
[2017-04-18 04:00:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Not at a;;
[2017-04-18 04:01:31] coinspredator : btc crash will be a bloodbath.
[2017-04-18 04:01:42] MikeHunt : i think it will crash
[2017-04-18 04:01:53] Rookie : if the 'fiat meaning' breaks down for cryptocurrencies, other ones can arise that are denominated in tangible goods and services
[2017-04-18 04:02:07] MikeHunt : im not gonna short yet thou, finex could go supa nova
[2017-04-18 04:02:25] Rookie : but I don't have much hope for technosphere in such an economic collapse
[2017-04-18 04:02:39] Rookie : *scenario
[2017-04-18 04:02:56] MikeHunt : only bullish scenario i see is loss of faith in bitfinex
[2017-04-18 04:03:10] MikeHunt : so ppl cash out
[2017-04-18 04:03:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: I will not be shocked if other exchanges follow suit. If they do we will be 300 dollars higher tomorrow
[2017-04-18 04:03:31] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: which ones?
[2017-04-18 04:04:26] DorianWhack-A-Moto : step 1 block fiat. step 2 block crypto withdrawals.
[2017-04-18 04:04:42] MikeHunt : if they block btc withdrawals, will cause dump
[2017-04-18 04:04:55] DorianWhack-A-Moto : yes. we are about to witness a mega-gox.
[2017-04-18 04:04:56] shillosopher : /price
[2017-04-18 04:05:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1192.53 (0.97%) Bitfinex : 1252.30 (1.11%) The Woodchipper : 1220.50 (0.45%) itBit : 1199.99 (0.17%) Kraken : 1204.50 (0.38%) GDAX : 1196.95 (0.47%) SLQ : 2 hours, 37 mins```
[2017-04-18 04:05:10] foobar : funny thing is , bitfinex just finished getting out of their last world of pain
[2017-04-18 04:05:34] shillosopher : foobar: or they didn't
[2017-04-18 04:05:40] MikeHunt : quartly futures has still barely recovered from the january raping
[2017-04-18 04:05:49] MikeHunt : still negative premium
[2017-04-18 04:06:24] Rookie : I'm getting ahead of this particular event ( possible fingox), but I wish I could long home economics making a comeback
[2017-04-18 04:06:36] foobar : fair basis was positive last week
[2017-04-18 04:06:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: It is possible all. First it was China now US is involved. Who is next?
[2017-04-18 04:07:06] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: well its just Wells Fargo atm
[2017-04-18 04:07:12] MikeHunt : and a Taiwanese bank
[2017-04-18 04:07:35] Rookie : it's really unusual for the formal economy to play such an overwhelming role in human affairs, historically speaking
[2017-04-18 04:07:37] MikeHunt : it seems Finex has become a hot potato
[2017-04-18 04:07:56] MikeHunt : japanese exchanges havent had these intemediatry issues
[2017-04-18 04:08:00] MikeHunt : same for chinese exchanges
[2017-04-18 04:08:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Yup, the largest bank in US Hard to believe they did not have backup
[2017-04-18 04:08:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : I had backup when I got shut down
[2017-04-18 04:08:25] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: it seems they pretty much control the flow to the US
[2017-04-18 04:08:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just saying this smells bad
[2017-04-18 04:08:40] coinspredator : finex is the next gox
[2017-04-18 04:08:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : Will be good for btc holders and bad for those want but don't have
[2017-04-18 04:09:21] MikeHunt : i think the pause on fiat deposits has bought them time
[2017-04-18 04:09:25] MikeHunt : otherwise it'd just get pumped
[2017-04-18 04:09:33] shiroe : those buys are massive. lol
[2017-04-18 04:09:34] shiroe : 100+ 200+
[2017-04-18 04:10:33] InvalidUser : The LTC pumpers are shitting them self's right now.