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[2015-11-27 20:03:07] messiaen8844 : drop 5000 BTC and then we go along ;)
[2015-11-27 20:11:01] rapidtrades : look at those waves of selling :)
[2015-11-27 20:12:54] podizzle3k : rapidtrades riding the waves of selling http://www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery/Stand_Up_Paddle/1517416.jpg
[2015-11-27 20:13:37] rapidtrades : knock knock
[2015-11-27 20:13:40] messiaen8844 : 2 years later bro
[2015-11-27 20:14:23] rapidtrades : knock knock
[2015-11-27 20:17:08] rapidtrades : look at no volume during that uptrend
[2015-11-27 20:17:15] messiaen8844 : rapid indicator right again
[2015-11-27 20:17:44] irbbqu : sell wave inc
[2015-11-27 20:18:11] rapidtrades : no shit
[2015-11-27 20:18:16] podizzle3k : sell tsunamis
[2015-11-27 20:18:18] podizzle3k : haha
[2015-11-27 20:18:19] habibi : rapidtrades: thanks ones again
[2015-11-27 20:18:21] irbbqu : okc short squeeze inc
[2015-11-27 20:18:26] messiaen8844 : fuck, will hav eto update the gif
[2015-11-27 20:19:05] messiaen8844 : bulls vs 2330, round 2, fight
[2015-11-27 20:35:15] rapidtrades : ouch....
[2015-11-27 20:37:08] messiaen8844 : let's see how consistent the indicator is
[2015-11-27 20:37:29] rapidtrades : rivers of blood right there
[2015-11-27 20:37:49] rapidtrades : all this senseless violence .....
[2015-11-27 20:38:00] messiaen8844 : keep talking man
[2015-11-27 20:38:07] habibi : u overreacting rapid
[2015-11-27 20:38:10] habibi : much much too much
[2015-11-27 20:38:14] rapidtrades : ''why can't we all just get along ''say the bulls
[2015-11-27 20:38:18] SnackyCoins : $1.50 move = rivers of blood lol
[2015-11-27 20:38:20] messiaen8844 : you are the midas of bitcoin
[2015-11-27 20:40:34] rapidtrades : guys I thought this bitcorn thing was gunna ralli...now I lost al my monies
[2015-11-27 20:43:33] rapidtrades : And the Lord said to Moses ''Go and stump that bitcorn thing into the ground''
[2015-11-27 20:43:54] habibi : not sure if serious or poor trying to be funny
[2015-11-27 20:45:00] Swedishnut : more likely he said go moses splite the see of false finance and walk on stable Bitcoin :P
[2015-11-27 20:45:12] Swedishnut : split the sea*
[2015-11-27 20:47:03] rapidtrades : ''I fought the law and the law won'' this chat tomorrow
[2015-11-27 20:47:55] rapidtrades : god dam this recent trades tab looks like Paris on a Friday night...
[2015-11-27 20:48:21] rapidtrades : .....too soon?
[2015-11-27 20:48:51] SnackyCoins : heh
[2015-11-27 20:48:56] SnackyCoins : that one wasn't bad
[2015-11-27 21:04:37] messiaen8844 : rapid indicator did'nt called that double bottom
[2015-11-27 21:05:19] messiaen8844 : another dip bought
[2015-11-27 21:05:38] habibi : yep, blood on da streets
[2015-11-27 21:06:35] messiaen8844 : bulls vs 2330, round 3.. fight
[2015-11-27 21:06:46] Swedishnut : it is Black Friday all the dips will be bought everyone is high on hopium.
[2015-11-27 21:08:25] jung1 : 1h chart looks good
[2015-11-27 21:10:15] messiaen8844 : 4h looks awesome
[2015-11-27 21:12:35] jung1 : yep
[2015-11-27 21:17:30] jung1 : 500 in this year?
[2015-11-27 21:26:30] ayy lmao : this chop
[2015-11-27 21:26:40] ayy lmao : incredible
[2015-11-27 21:33:50] jung1 : 2330
[2015-11-27 21:33:55] jung1 : GO
[2015-11-27 22:19:15] cekseh : It's only chop if you are overtrading
[2015-11-27 22:19:17] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-27 22:25:33] Swedishnut : yeah 500 this year I think
[2015-11-27 22:30:04] rapidtrades : 500? why not 5000
[2015-11-27 22:30:48] rapidtrades : 5 million 1000s
[2015-11-27 22:30:54] Swedishnut : meh 5k is not out of reach but let us hit 500 again and make it a new bottom first :P
[2015-11-27 23:17:50] podizzle3k : target 2770
[2015-11-27 23:18:38] podizzle3k : $430
[2015-11-27 23:27:20] rapidtrades : my target >>>> $4.300
[2015-11-27 23:28:30] sleger : 4 dollars and 30 cents, quite bearish !!
[2015-11-27 23:28:56] sleger : unless you meant to type $4,300 and not $4.300
[2015-11-27 23:31:33] micmix : I would buy tons of coins for $4.30 :-)
[2015-11-27 23:32:02] rapidtrades : micmix: u would wouldn't u
[2015-11-27 23:32:05] rapidtrades : bagholder...
[2015-11-27 23:32:46] micmix : I'm a trader, if it goes down that much I
[2015-11-27 23:33:03] micmix : I'd make a lot of money
[2015-11-27 23:34:51] sleger : micmix: how much is the bot now, 40 lots ?
[2015-11-27 23:35:00] rapidtrades : 46
[2015-11-27 23:35:22] rapidtrades : 43.98
[2015-11-27 23:35:30] rapidtrades : 56.11
[2015-11-27 23:35:40] sleger : rapidtrades: hey see you used the correct ponctuation this time !!
[2015-11-27 23:35:48] sleger : congrats !
[2015-11-27 23:36:59] micmix : sleger: we are testing predictive models, 2 bots running with different model, quoting variable number of contracts (4-80)
[2015-11-27 23:37:35] habibi : micmix: wouldnt it be better to test it on okc/hobi?
[2015-11-27 23:37:38] sleger : ok. I hope you get to increase sizes soon !
[2015-11-27 23:37:40] habibi : real market instead futures?
[2015-11-27 23:37:56] rapidtrades : yeah fak off with ur bots
[2015-11-27 23:38:04] rapidtrades : faggit
[2015-11-27 23:38:04] habibi : rapidtrades: stfu
[2015-11-27 23:38:12] rapidtrades : habibi: get l
[2015-11-27 23:38:28] rapidtrades : habibi: NO U
[2015-11-27 23:38:43] sleger : rapidtrades: can you speak english please ?
[2015-11-27 23:39:00] micmix : habibi: you have to adjust model parameters for each market. huobi and okc parameters are quite different for example
[2015-11-27 23:39:21] habibi : i mean liq is much better
[2015-11-27 23:39:50] sleger : I run same models on each market, but here I tried one day with 100 then next day 250 contracts and the 3rd day 1000
[2015-11-27 23:40:09] micmix : habibi: I never said that we don't have bots on huob1 or okc0in :-)
[2015-11-27 23:40:24] habibi : who are You my friend ;)?
[2015-11-27 23:41:53] micmix : sleger: yeah, it depends on what your MM is doing. ours is not strictly MM because it tries to predict the market somewhat
[2015-11-27 23:42:08] sleger : micmix: same. But what size do you show on 0kcoin ?
[2015-11-27 23:43:55] micmix : sleger: sorry, can't say :-( actually we don't do much MM on okc but you can see bulldozer running from time to time on BTC/CNY
[2015-11-27 23:44:50] sleger : i dont do cny spot. I show 25-75 lots on futs 0kcoin usually (but not always)
[2015-11-27 23:46:30] micmix : our MM shows up as lots of smaller quotes of different sizes on okc. I guess you can figure it out if you look at the books
[2015-11-27 23:47:31] micmix : doesn't run on okc futures though
[2015-11-27 23:47:37] sleger : I just assume there are so many bots there that it would be impossible to identify one in particular, unless you know more about it. Anyways, good luck with the testing of this one.
[2015-11-27 23:52:58] micmix : yeah, couple dozen at least on okc futures. thank you sleger, good luck to you too! I still didn't convince our quants that BitMEX is worth investing time and money. hopefully couple weeks of testing will be enough
[2015-11-27 23:54:02] rapidtrades : micmix: they're right, it;s not
[2015-11-27 23:54:27] micmix : rapidtrades: you are funny :-)
[2015-11-27 23:54:52] rapidtrades : micmix: i know
[2015-11-28 00:02:40] rapidtrades : EVERYONE PANIC
[2015-11-28 00:09:02] micmix : rapidtrades: yes sir, panic mode on :-)
[2015-11-28 00:09:42] rapidtrades : bet ur bots don't panic...those lil feckers
[2015-11-28 00:10:37] micmix : no, they just make money from traders who panic :-)
[2015-11-28 00:11:09] SnackyCoins : any bitmex around?
[2015-11-28 00:11:59] SnackyCoins : nm figured it out
[2015-11-28 00:16:09] rapidtrades : there will be major dumpage once $350 breaks
[2015-11-28 00:16:25] habibi : ur rapid trades
[2015-11-28 00:16:31] habibi : are not that rapid right?
[2015-11-28 00:16:54] rapidtrades : they're pretty rapid...
[2015-11-28 00:17:07] justinlooking : i am sihtfaced
[2015-11-28 00:17:09] habibi : so u closed ur short, and now opening new ones?
[2015-11-28 00:17:10] justinlooking : let's trade
[2015-11-28 00:17:19] habibi : or just keeps one positions ?
[2015-11-28 00:17:28] justinlooking : rapidtrades, u lon gor sshrt bru
[2015-11-28 00:17:37] rapidtrades : I took a few smaller scalps yes..but still keeping a bigger short on
[2015-11-28 00:18:14] justinlooking : coolio lifting finex up to to 256 now
[2015-11-28 00:18:18] justinlooking : *356
[2015-11-28 00:18:39] justinlooking : mine nmine mine
[2015-11-28 00:19:22] justinlooking : suhc drunk very easy
[2015-11-28 00:19:38] justinlooking : @ 361m cum to papa
[2015-11-28 00:20:04] rapidtrades : if u think 361 will take me out, ur in for one big surprise lool
[2015-11-28 00:20:30] habibi : rapidtrades - liquidations provider!
[2015-11-28 00:20:38] SnackyCoins : rapidtrades: are you long?
[2015-11-28 00:20:48] justinlooking : h ebetter not be
[2015-11-28 00:20:55] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: no I'm not long stupid
[2015-11-28 00:21:32] SnackyCoins : well looks like you might make some money today
[2015-11-28 00:24:04] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: I have 4 +scalps so far....plus still holding that short, rolled it over
[2015-11-28 00:28:29] rapidtrades : my recent trades tab keeps freezing
[2015-11-28 00:32:28] justinlooking : ok well murdered i am bed
[2015-11-28 00:32:42] sleger : ok good night then
[2015-11-28 00:35:07] micmix : sleger: so I assume 6k bot is not you? it looks like a standard MM
[2015-11-28 00:36:36] micmix : sleger: you don't have to answer if you don't want to :-)
[2015-11-28 00:36:43] habibi : micmix: u mean bitmex mm version?
[2015-11-28 00:37:55] micmix : habibi: do you mean MM sample code that BitMEX provides? no, I don't think so
[2015-11-28 00:38:36] micmix : MM sample is very simple, you will probably lose money running it as is
[2015-11-28 00:40:05] rapidtrades : micmix: how simple...what does it do
[2015-11-28 00:40:57] sleger : micmix: no 6k isnt me
[2015-11-28 00:41:38] micmix : sleger: ok, thanks for answering :-)
[2015-11-28 00:43:16] rapidtrades : cmon baby let's break $350 so I can go to bed
[2015-11-28 03:03:41] ethexio : Whee
[2015-11-28 03:16:30] Swedishnut : spiced pear shandy tastes like a poor pumkin pie... fail
[2015-11-28 03:16:51] Swedishnut : are we ready to R-O-C-K!
[2015-11-28 03:26:03] Swedishnut : chipper wants 375?
[2015-11-28 03:39:07] Swedishnut : new egg has PS4 Uncharted Bundle for 279
[2015-11-28 03:39:47] Swedishnut : 3/4 ish of a coin and you have a new console. pretty slick deal imop
[2015-11-28 03:58:26] Swedishnut : I don't know why but I licked the cat when he attacked me. Gave me the strangest wtf look I've ever seen. toungue is full of fur now but worth the funny
[2015-11-28 04:06:08] Swedishnut : evidently out of the 189 other than me all decide to simply listen to the nut instead of crack his/her opinions.
[2015-11-28 04:06:48] Swedishnut : off to slap the 2330 wall again? 5th time the charm?
[2015-11-28 04:14:26] Swedishnut : 2299.68
[2015-11-28 04:25:03] Swedishnut : fake outs all over
[2015-11-28 04:26:52] Swedishnut : cocoa berry beer is bad too...
[2015-11-28 05:19:37] podizzle3k : can support plz restart irc bot when they get a chance
[2015-11-28 05:19:43] podizzle3k : sounds bad swedishnut
[2015-11-28 05:20:03] podizzle3k : i think 2030 is toast
[2015-11-28 05:22:10] podizzle3k : err 2330
[2015-11-28 05:41:01] Swedishnut : 375
[2015-11-28 06:52:25] Swedishnut : tonight possibly but before cyber monday might be another tale
[2015-11-28 07:14:09] Swedishnut : better to be a green thumbed troll that spurrs inspiration than an axe wealding douche who cuts at the roots of creation :P
[2015-11-28 07:35:21] rapidtrades : guys I come here from other chat. they said u r big ralliers here. But I come here n I c no ralli.
[2015-11-28 07:35:41] rapidtrades : what's going on guys? plz ralli. don't forsaken me
[2015-11-28 07:35:49] rapidtrades : I don't like being forsaken
[2015-11-28 07:36:53] Swedishnut : I guess I can be a bit too positive. Rallying makes the best marketing sense to draw attention in my experience no one likes to be left behind and there are lots of ways to get free btc or invest
[2015-11-28 07:37:56] Swedishnut : forex exchanges 5.3 trillion a day. much is to be gained if btc becomes a Major player
[2015-11-28 07:38:45] Swedishnut : beating the printer is more important in the long run than the woodchipper imop
[2015-11-28 07:39:13] rapidtrades : well just because smth is exchanged don't mean it should have more value
[2015-11-28 07:40:11] Swedishnut : indeed but when trust is the value and truth is priceless what is btc worth when cash printer money is replicated at mass with no check or balance
[2015-11-28 07:40:37] rapidtrades : also u don't know how much of that is already priced in, markets are discounting mechanisms
[2015-11-28 07:41:04] Swedishnut : yes and we over value everything since the world is in so much debt things are crazy over priced
[2015-11-28 07:41:24] Swedishnut : thus break the central bank and we reset to resource value
[2015-11-28 07:41:43] Swedishnut : game set mach go
[2015-11-28 07:41:48] Swedishnut : match*
[2015-11-28 07:41:50] zanza : woke up, wasn't liquidated ... yisss
[2015-11-28 07:42:06] rapidtrades : zanza: u lucky sob :)
[2015-11-28 07:42:25] zanza : rapidtrades: yup
[2015-11-28 07:42:32] rapidtrades : gm just woke up as wel
[2015-11-28 07:42:55] rapidtrades : swedish has been up al night by the looks of things :)
[2015-11-28 07:44:06] Swedishnut : yes sleep is necessary soon :)
[2015-11-28 07:44:20] Swedishnut : simply exciting
[2015-11-28 07:44:44] zanza : does anyone know, if I have 2 positions open, and they are both on cross margin mode, do they share unrealized PnL?
[2015-11-28 07:44:50] rapidtrades : I will prolly go bak for round 2...only got like 6 hrs
[2015-11-28 07:45:03] rapidtrades : prolly
[2015-11-28 07:45:46] zanza : "Withheld Profit"
[2015-11-28 07:46:03] rapidtrades : yeah that sucks
[2015-11-28 07:46:24] zanza : so Withheld Profit is basically a hidden entity that doesn't effect anything else?
[2015-11-28 07:47:27] Swedishnut : think of it as the ghost of Christmas
[2015-11-28 07:47:32] zanza : rofl
[2015-11-28 07:47:41] Swedishnut : you will get a present but ...when?
[2015-11-28 07:47:48] rapidtrades : I don't know tng...only been here a week
[2015-11-28 07:48:20] rapidtrades : support is not here today, too busy shopping :)
[2015-11-28 07:49:43] Swedishnut : isn't spending support?
[2015-11-28 07:50:02] rapidtrades : is withheld profit added to my balance once the settlement passed?
[2015-11-28 07:50:10] Swedishnut : causing desire for goods produced is usually a good thing when in high demand
[2015-11-28 07:51:00] Swedishnut : I have yet to see if the USA sold much to the sheeple yet but my guess it was decent but below prediction
[2015-11-28 07:51:29] rapidtrades : are total transactions up? bitcoin
[2015-11-28 07:53:44] Swedishnut : that would be the best equation. bitcoin facilitating all transactions through main and side chains
[2015-11-28 07:57:11] rapidtrades : market makers very jiterry here, quick to pull bids/asks
[2015-11-28 07:57:23] rapidtrades : prolly got RAPED the past few days
[2015-11-28 07:59:07] Swedishnut : mm are not prophets
[2015-11-28 07:59:18] laisee : pfofits?
[2015-11-28 07:59:23] zanza : Long MM's did well, Short ones did bad
[2015-11-28 08:00:00] laisee : MM should not care on direction, right?
[2015-11-28 08:00:16] rapidtrades : laisee: i thought so too
[2015-11-28 08:00:29] rapidtrades : maybe some are programmed with a bias
[2015-11-28 08:01:08] laisee : sometimes. or their 'stock' is growing due to price increase. like a central bank profits.
[2015-11-28 08:01:29] rapidtrades : good point
[2015-11-28 08:02:52] Swedishnut : all I am saying is only a few will predict the outlier and that will end up breaking the curve. thus only a handful will "win" in the oddness crash
[2015-11-28 08:04:51] rapidtrades : bids side seema bit weak
[2015-11-28 08:11:04] laisee : sell into the weakness ...
[2015-11-28 08:14:57] brucegoose : ebay sales down 10% yoy
[2015-11-28 08:15:03] zanza : link?
[2015-11-28 08:16:49] brucegoose : you'll see it tomorrow
[2015-11-28 08:45:31] zanza : if they had 24H rollover here, it would be basically like going long/short XBT
[2015-11-28 08:56:40] laisee : $7 discount on cash?
[2015-11-28 08:59:01] laisee : crazy or some real price info baked into XBT24H?
[2015-11-28 09:07:53] laisee : f*xxd
[2015-11-28 09:45:56] zanza : laisee: ?
[2015-11-28 10:51:48] rapidtrades : almost 9k BTC volume today
[2015-11-28 10:53:35] rapidtrades : I came here to collect some premium before settlement but I see none :( guess the crazyness is finally over
[2015-11-28 11:09:10] zanza : come back in 1 hr
[2015-11-28 11:11:28] rapidtrades : meh I'll stick around just in case...ppl get irrational around this time
[2015-11-28 11:24:41] rapidtrades : NOTHING IS MOVING
[2015-11-28 11:30:30] rapidtrades : no dumps until settlement plz
[2015-11-28 11:31:45] rapidtrades : rallies are cool tho
[2015-11-28 11:54:47] rapidtrades : settle price seems a bit low no? finex at 356.3
[2015-11-28 12:01:42] sleger : silence is awesome
[2015-11-28 12:01:46] rapidtrades : cmon ppl u don't want to miss that move! fomo market buy!
[2015-11-28 12:02:36] j8 : rapidtrades: did you finally come over to the light side
[2015-11-28 12:02:54] rapidtrades : maybe....why don't u fill my asks :)
[2015-11-28 12:04:01] rapidtrades : GUYS THIS IS THE BIG ONE, DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS MOVE
[2015-11-28 12:07:11] lazerdye : Magic eight ball said "It is certain"..
[2015-11-28 12:07:55] rapidtrades : GUYS I'M SHORT RAPID INDICATOR SAYS STRONG BUY
[2015-11-28 12:09:18] rapidtrades : holy shit look at thhat volume spoke on okc futures
[2015-11-28 12:09:31] rapidtrades : its certian moon time now
[2015-11-28 12:10:02] rapidtrades : loading up this rocketship! target moon!
[2015-11-28 12:12:32] rapidtrades : /s
[2015-11-28 12:12:33] sleger : where is the ignore rapidBS button ?
[2015-11-28 12:13:04] rapidtrades : sleger: hey when price went up $5 yesterday u were all ''look at this rapid indicator lolz''
[2015-11-28 12:13:16] sleger : no wasn't me
[2015-11-28 12:13:17] rapidtrades : what goes around comes around b1tc
[2015-11-28 12:13:36] rapidtrades : sleger: are u sure....pretty sure it was partly u
[2015-11-28 12:14:00] sleger : check the archive, since you're here 24/7 you should see it. It was not me
[2015-11-28 12:14:17] sleger : I was on a plane most of the day yesterday
[2015-11-28 12:14:22] rapidtrades : sleger: ok then :)
[2015-11-28 12:15:47] sleger : but spreading FUD, or moontime just because you want people to fill your asks is not very fair game, or even nice.
[2015-11-28 12:16:41] rapidtrades : sleger: I was clearly joking...wasn't trying to manipulate....I even said that my goal is to get my asks filled...anyway I'll stop now :)
[2015-11-28 12:34:20] lazerdye : In all actuality, today is kinda boring...
[2015-11-28 12:35:35] lazerdye : Some minor altcoin action...
[2015-11-28 12:58:05] ayy lmao : any bitmex admins here?
[2015-11-28 12:58:41] ayy lmao : chart shows the price hit 351 on chart
[2015-11-28 12:58:49] ayy lmao : not on recent trade hsitory tho
[2015-11-28 12:58:56] ayy lmao : 24hr
[2015-11-28 13:01:02] irbbqu : 351.0134813:55:52
[2015-11-28 13:01:09] ayy lmao : nvrmind, stray 351 trad
[2015-11-28 13:01:16] ayy lmao : yah, i see it
[2015-11-28 13:03:46] ayy lmao : is UPNL based off index still?
[2015-11-28 13:04:26] justinlooking : upnl is based on mark price
[2015-11-28 13:04:28] justinlooking : asaik
[2015-11-28 13:04:36] justinlooking : *afaik
[2015-11-28 13:04:51] sleger : It is called fair price not mark price
[2015-11-28 13:05:26] justinlooking : oh, then someone should update the order controls panel
[2015-11-28 13:06:56] sleger : where do you see mark price ?
[2015-11-28 13:07:13] sleger : oh not order controls panel, you mean positions panel
[2015-11-28 13:07:35] justinlooking : the panel with title "Order Controls", where you enter orders
[2015-11-28 13:07:42] sleger : indeed they should choose one or the other
[2015-11-28 13:13:04] zanza : 350 is resistance?
[2015-11-28 13:13:06] j8 : fair price and mark price are potentially two different things, but for `XBT` series they're the same
[2015-11-28 13:14:12] justinlooking : zanza: support?
[2015-11-28 13:14:53] justinlooking : it could become resistance if we get under and stay under, for now it's support
[2015-11-28 13:18:27] zanza : justinlooking: yes
[2015-11-28 13:18:39] zanza : resistant to shorts =]
[2015-11-28 13:18:53] zanza : i got Sc2 LOTV
[2015-11-28 13:18:54] zanza : fun
[2015-11-28 14:01:55] rapidtrades : if $350 breaks there will be ome freworks
[2015-11-28 14:02:50] justinlooking : what makes u say that?:
[2015-11-28 14:03:04] rapidtrades : are u looking at any charts?
[2015-11-28 14:03:38] rapidtrades : we tested it three times, its support
[2015-11-28 14:04:18] rapidtrades : damit I need to do my taxes
[2015-11-28 14:04:32] rapidtrades : any jews here?
[2015-11-28 14:07:38] habibi : pro tip rapidtrades u dont pay taxes as long u are on loss
[2015-11-28 14:08:26] justinlooking : lmao
[2015-11-28 14:09:06] rapidtrades : u b1cthes wont be laughing once we break $250, b1tch
[2015-11-28 14:10:05] rapidtrades : sry that was wrong of me to say....meant $350...ur still b1tches tho
[2015-11-28 14:10:52] habibi : u are very rude guy
[2015-11-28 14:11:38] rapidtrades : habibi: hey u started it
[2015-11-28 14:28:23] rapidtrades : any good Black Friday videos?
[2015-11-28 15:05:43] abeaulne : Alright gents bare with me I'm pretty thick
[2015-11-28 15:05:55] abeaulne : how does Bitmex computes leverage
[2015-11-28 15:06:25] abeaulne : I had leverage=(Qty*Price*Multiplier)/posted margin
[2015-11-28 15:06:58] rapidtrades : read the guide
[2015-11-28 15:07:28] abeaulne : already did, but fine I'll give it another shot
[2015-11-28 15:10:08] j8 : abeaulne: don't mind him, it's more or less as you said. position size / margin. which part confuses you?
[2015-11-28 15:14:18] abeaulne : I had an pos with isolated margin at 90x leverage
[2015-11-28 15:14:25] abeaulne : tried to bring it to 95x
[2015-11-28 15:15:02] abeaulne : but got 'Position has insufficient margin' message
[2015-11-28 15:15:13] abeaulne : on the daily
[2015-11-28 15:15:24] j8 : so it starts at 100x, the initial leverage
[2015-11-28 15:15:51] abeaulne : yep
[2015-11-28 15:15:53] j8 : if you are in profit it will go down, but you can't remove the initial margin
[2015-11-28 15:16:19] abeaulne : I see
[2015-11-28 15:16:29] j8 : you'd have to close and open.
[2015-11-28 15:17:24] abeaulne : so if it swing vastly in my favor, my leverage my drop to e.g. 50x, but I've no way to bring it back to eg 95x before it balances again
[2015-11-28 15:17:30] abeaulne : which the daily doesnt
[2015-11-28 15:18:20] j8 : right, the reason is you'd be re-leveraging profits, which isn't allowed until settlement/rebalance
[2015-11-28 15:18:31] abeaulne : understood
[2015-11-28 15:18:40] abeaulne : thanks j8 your a real m8
[2015-11-28 15:18:49] j8 : although yesterday wally was saying they're working on a way to let you use profits. np
[2015-11-28 16:15:43] zanza : so the spread right now to break even if you are a taker, is 45 cents
[2015-11-28 16:16:00] zanza : so if you buy at 355, sell at 355.44, you break even after fee
[2015-11-28 16:16:56] zanza : thats assuming taker fee + settlement fee
[2015-11-28 17:31:41] TschavaTschigger : habibi: LOL @ tax diss
[2015-11-28 17:40:09] oDSPfgen38 : hi! do I need to verify identity here?
[2015-11-28 17:56:33] TschavaTschigger : oDSPfgen38: nope.. no government laws apply here, welcome to the wild wild west
[2015-11-28 17:57:09] TschavaTschigger : oDSPfgen38: since you don't trade bitcoin for fiat currency on this site, you don't need to verify your identity.
[2015-11-28 17:58:13] oDSPfgen38 : kthx
[2015-11-28 18:00:40] zanza : TschavaTschigger: not exactly wild west, still USA ip block
[2015-11-28 18:10:33] oDSPfgen38 : what's the fee in here and does it lower over time when I have opened more positions?
[2015-11-28 18:13:49] TschavaTschigger : oDSPfgen38: on the left side under "references," you can find all the answers to your questions
[2015-11-28 18:29:55] zanza : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-11-28 18:53:32] SnackyCoins : TschavaTschigger: the wild west was a few years ago :)
[2015-11-28 18:53:51] SnackyCoins : now we're at the point where you can get nailed for AMLKYC trading on local bitcoins
[2015-11-28 18:54:04] SnackyCoins : or lack of MSB liscence
[2015-11-28 18:54:25] thehawthorne : Europe is the land of honey and milk, no taxes on trading Bitcoin
[2015-11-28 18:54:50] SnackyCoins : CFTC says you need to AMLKYC for derivatives trading now, thats why americans = b8
[2015-11-28 18:56:12] SnackyCoins : b& i mean lol
[2015-11-28 18:56:36] rapidtrades : sup homies
[2015-11-28 18:56:58] rapidtrades : how are ur bitcorns doing today?
[2015-11-28 18:57:19] SnackyCoins : better than yesterday 8)
[2015-11-28 18:57:36] SnackyCoins : got fucking chopped UP yesterday, worst run in a while, GG market maker
[2015-11-28 18:57:55] SnackyCoins : gave up most of the profits from the ride up
[2015-11-28 18:58:18] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: :)
[2015-11-28 18:58:26] rapidtrades : you're welcome :)
[2015-11-28 18:58:34] SnackyCoins : lol you're not the MM
[2015-11-28 18:58:38] ayy lmao : fuck
[2015-11-28 18:58:43] ayy lmao : fucking
[2015-11-28 18:59:00] ayy lmao : shit
[2015-11-28 18:59:09] rapidtrades : retard....
[2015-11-28 18:59:39] SnackyCoins : the spread bot has my money ;) and i'm still up 2btc from the start at 315
[2015-11-28 19:06:11] rapidtrades : boom
[2015-11-28 19:06:17] rapidtrades : that was one of my quiest scalps
[2015-11-28 19:06:27] rapidtrades : quickest*
[2015-11-28 19:12:11] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: if u want to go long, feel free to fill my asks :)
[2015-11-28 19:17:21] Swedishnut : attack on 2330 again soon?
[2015-11-28 19:20:31] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: speak English
[2015-11-28 19:26:09] messiaen8844 : :)
[2015-11-28 19:26:47] wurstgelee : Swedishnut: if rapidtrades shorted, probably soon ;)
[2015-11-28 19:28:08] rapidtrades : I'm already short stupids
[2015-11-28 19:28:18] wurstgelee : ok, moon inbound
[2015-11-28 19:28:27] rapidtrades : go go
[2015-11-28 19:29:12] justinlooking : up we go
[2015-11-28 19:36:18] rapidtrades : CANCEL RALLY
[2015-11-28 19:36:26] rapidtrades : ABORT ABORT
[2015-11-28 19:37:16] rapidtrades : HEY CHINA U BREAK IT YOU BUY IT (BITCORN)
[2015-11-28 19:38:14] SnackyCoins : they are buying it
[2015-11-28 19:41:17] messiaen8844 : https://www.dropbox.com/s/xf8rchvo272zrbr/rapid_indicator.png?dl=0
[2015-11-28 19:42:41] ayy lmao : y'all niggas need jesus
[2015-11-28 19:43:58] messiaen8844 : amen
[2015-11-28 19:44:48] rapidtrades : jesus was the orginal short-seller
[2015-11-28 19:46:05] ayy lmao : lol
[2015-11-28 19:55:29] ayy lmao : next 4h candle should be interesting
[2015-11-28 19:56:43] rapidtrades : doubt it
[2015-11-28 19:57:09] ayy lmao : then why are you in trade?
[2015-11-28 19:57:32] rapidtrades : just rolling my short bra
[2015-11-28 19:57:38] rapidtrades : *h
[2015-11-28 20:03:36] messiaen8844 : the ultimate BTC triangle
[2015-11-28 20:04:03] rapidtrades : there is no volume grrrrrrrrrr
[2015-11-28 20:11:55] TschavaTschigger : rapid is short? longtime for me then
[2015-11-28 20:18:01] wurstgelee : up :)
[2015-11-28 20:18:26] messiaen8844 : chat doesn't work when I am on the tablet for some reason
[2015-11-28 20:18:30] messiaen8844 : (running Chrome no Android)
[2015-11-28 20:26:02] rapidtrades : I think I'll go to bed early today
[2015-11-28 20:37:28] thehawthorne : That was a lie
[2015-11-28 20:38:30] ayy lmao : lol
[2015-11-28 20:39:01] rapidtrades : FOMO
[2015-11-28 20:58:19] rapidtrades : LOVING this range
[2015-11-28 20:59:19] Swedishnut : it is a happy place indeed
[2015-11-28 20:59:40] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: how's it goin man
[2015-11-28 21:00:28] Swedishnut : very well :) Just watched Ferris Bueller's Day Off :) feeling similar
[2015-11-28 21:00:59] rapidtrades : never seen it
[2015-11-28 21:01:32] Swedishnut : worth it it was one of the first movies to break the fourth wall and talk directly to the viewer
[2015-11-28 21:01:43] rapidtrades : sounds creep
[2015-11-28 21:01:47] rapidtrades : *y
[2015-11-28 21:02:32] Swedishnut : it is a comedy about a kid who fakes being sick for his ninth time.
[2015-11-28 21:04:05] rapidtrades : are u faking beign sick
[2015-11-28 21:05:33] Swedishnut : nah the kid is wanting to enjoy the sunshine in May of his senior year. Pulls all the stops and tricks to enjoy Chicago before his parents get back home from work at 6pm
[2015-11-28 21:05:36] SnackyCoins : rapidtrades: you should watch it, nearly every comedy show has made a reference to it
[2015-11-28 21:05:55] Swedishnut : yeah I don't want to give anything away it is a must see
[2015-11-28 21:06:12] rapidtrades : ok i'll take a look
[2015-11-28 21:06:18] SnackyCoins : there's whole scenes in family guy copied straight out of the movie
[2015-11-28 21:08:35] rapidtrades : :)
[2015-11-28 21:39:10] rapidtrades : can we crash below $350 so I can go to bed plz
[2015-11-28 22:06:06] irbbqu : Dont jinx it
[2015-11-28 22:18:24] justinlooking : shame `bvol24h` isn't tradable
[2015-11-28 22:55:49] oDSPfgen38 : is it normal that when I set up as much contracts as possible with my 0.01 balance and use it for a $10-move, I only make 0.01 BTC?
[2015-11-28 22:56:21] oDSPfgen38 : *"only" ;) or am I doing something wrong here.
[2015-11-28 22:59:33] wurstgelee : depends on contract. $10 would be ~250%+ on xbt24h
[2015-11-28 23:01:41] oDSPfgen38 : yeah I am on xbt24h
[2015-11-28 23:01:44] oDSPfgen38 : let me ask different
[2015-11-28 23:03:15] oDSPfgen38 : if I go all in in Long with my 0.01 BTC balance at $351 and close it at $361. How many contracts & profit would that be?
[2015-11-28 23:03:41] oDSPfgen38 : Somehow the calculator is messing around with me it seems. or I'm stupid.
[2015-11-28 23:04:26] wurstgelee : profit would be more than 250%
[2015-11-28 23:04:58] wurstgelee : so 0.025+
[2015-11-28 23:05:04] oDSPfgen38 : okay
[2015-11-28 23:05:05] oDSPfgen38 : Mh.
[2015-11-28 23:05:44] oDSPfgen38 : People told me you can actually make money with 100x and a 0.01 Balance here. So I would need like a 0.10 Balance to make it count on 1 position to receive good profit
[2015-11-28 23:06:14] oDSPfgen38 : but 0.025+ BTC profit isn't worth the hassle for me with a 0.01 BTC balance :p
[2015-11-28 23:08:04] BitMEX_Sam : 250% in a day is pretty significant.
[2015-11-28 23:08:22] BitMEX_Sam : But as always you have to risk to obtain reward.
[2015-11-28 23:08:30] oDSPfgen38 : yeah
[2015-11-28 23:11:49] oDSPfgen38 : when I wanna set up a short for a future high price, it only let's me use half of my balance and I gotta add the rest manually to the existing order. is that normal?
[2015-11-28 23:12:33] oDSPfgen38 : oh now it worked. sometimes ot works, sometimes it just doesn't.
[2015-11-28 23:12:51] BitMEX_Sam : I believe there were some issues in the initial risk checks but I believe that was fixed
[2015-11-28 23:13:06] oDSPfgen38 : 10 seconds after I tried again it worked.
[2015-11-28 23:13:08] BitMEX_Sam : I'll check when Wally's online again
[2015-11-28 23:13:35] oDSPfgen38 : the order controls tab always acts weird
[2015-11-28 23:13:43] BitMEX_Sam : We have a comprensive set of risk checks that execute when you place an order that ensure that you not only have the margin required, but that you wouldn't get insta-liquidated
[2015-11-28 23:13:50] BitMEX_Sam : Weird how?
[2015-11-28 23:14:01] oDSPfgen38 : It rejects and says I don't have the funds.
[2015-11-28 23:14:11] oDSPfgen38 : like it demands double the amount it would even need.
[2015-11-28 23:14:17] oDSPfgen38 : or something.
[2015-11-28 23:14:26] oDSPfgen38 : then I tried again, worked. randomly.
[2015-11-28 23:14:54] BitMEX_Sam : I'll check the history.
[2015-11-28 23:16:05] oDSPfgen38 : yeah, just before this open order got accepted, the error showed up on the try before.
[2015-11-28 23:17:07] BitMEX_Sam : It does have something to do with the current price, though, so it is very likely this is normal
[2015-11-28 23:17:21] BitMEX_Sam : Depending on how far you are from the mark price, the system will reject if you wouldn't be able to actually afford the execution
[2015-11-28 23:17:35] oDSPfgen38 : anyway, exactly the same settings after that error, tried again, worked.
[2015-11-28 23:17:46] oDSPfgen38 : (99% balance to put into)
[2015-11-28 23:17:56] BitMEX_Sam : I see you canceled an order just before that - that was likely it
[2015-11-28 23:18:01] BitMEX_Sam : You can't open more orders than you can afford
[2015-11-28 23:18:15] oDSPfgen38 : let me try again for fun :)
[2015-11-28 23:18:38] podizzle3k : sam when you change order options from cross to isolate it is the equivalent to checking isolate on all your positions?
[2015-11-28 23:18:50] BitMEX_Sam : podizzle3k: No, only on the contract you're actually viewing
[2015-11-28 23:18:57] podizzle3k : right yes ok
[2015-11-28 23:19:04] podizzle3k : thx
[2015-11-28 23:19:20] BitMEX_Sam : Looks good oDSPfgen38
[2015-11-28 23:19:22] oDSPfgen38 : "You can't open more orders than you can afford" < already had this error several time with no active orders
[2015-11-28 23:19:38] oDSPfgen38 : now it again worked fine. hm. must be just me then.
[2015-11-28 23:25:05] ethexio : When do affiliate users show up? I've had at least one person say they signed up with my link. But still shows 0.
[2015-11-28 23:25:21] ethexio : Maybe there are fibbers
[2015-11-28 23:25:25] BitMEX_Sam : ethexio: Should be more or less immediate
[2015-11-28 23:27:34] ethexio : That's what I figured.. Little fibbers..
[2015-11-28 23:29:03] ethexio : Is it registered right away @BitMEX_Sam , or once they deposit/trade?
[2015-11-28 23:29:35] BitMEX_Sam : Right away.
[2015-11-28 23:29:46] ethexio : K, thanks .
[2015-11-28 23:30:14] ethexio : Fibbers...
[2015-11-29 00:13:12] Swedishnut : round xyz on 2330?
[2015-11-29 00:13:50] messiaen8844 : bulls vs 2330... round 15, FIGHT!
[2015-11-29 00:16:20] irbbqu : hehe, looks promising so far.
[2015-11-29 00:16:35] messiaen8844 : if it gets to 2340, then real FOMO might kick in
[2015-11-29 00:17:49] justinlooking : did rapidtrades get short again?
[2015-11-29 00:17:58] Swedishnut : cyber monday might be gearing up some extra volume as shoppers get ready to find savings, deals, give-aways
[2015-11-29 00:18:24] irbbqu : Shoppin with BTC? Deals?
[2015-11-29 00:18:24] wurstgelee : justinlooking: yep ;)
[2015-11-29 00:18:44] messiaen8844 : wish he had tons of BTC to rocket fuel this
[2015-11-29 00:18:45] messiaen8844 : lol
[2015-11-29 00:19:46] Swedishnut : I bought 100$ of shaving and good soaps for .168
[2015-11-29 00:20:21] Swedishnut : http://theholyblack.com/ SBS25 code for 25% off
[2015-11-29 03:19:47] ethexio : Whee
[2015-11-29 05:09:44] brynsolomon : hi to clarify DPE, on the daily XBT24H if my margin falls below 0.5% then i'll be liquidated. if the fill is better than bankruptcy i won't get the money back, right?
[2015-11-29 05:15:40] SnackyCoins : if you're liquidated it's gone, DPE only affects profitable accounts
[2015-11-29 05:21:20] brynsolomon : ok thanks. so bitmex takes an assumed cut for the liquidations, which then goes to back into bankruptcy pool
[2015-11-29 05:21:45] brynsolomon : eg if i they liquidate last 0.5% margin at midpoint, they'll take the 0.5% from you anyway
[2015-11-29 05:21:50] j8 : brynsolomon: yes, the remainder goes to offset other losses
[2015-11-29 05:22:10] brynsolomon : ok thanks. just testing a strategy wanted to triple check all my assumptions
[2015-11-29 05:22:34] j8 : yeah, it's sort of a penalty for being liquidated. usually better to trade out
[2015-11-29 05:22:52] BitMEX_Wally : Thanks j8, you're correct as usual
[2015-11-29 05:23:05] brynsolomon : j8: always find you very helpful on this trollbox. cheers mate
[2015-11-29 05:23:14] j8 : no problem
[2015-11-29 06:12:45] SnackyCoins : just took 2k contracts, aprox 7.15btc of value
[2015-11-29 06:12:58] SnackyCoins : fees paid? about 40 cents
[2015-11-29 06:13:12] SnackyCoins : 40 cents worth of btc, not 40 bitcents
[2015-11-29 06:13:45] SnackyCoins : imo that is basically free
[2015-11-29 06:14:55] SnackyCoins : oh whoops, too late for headmath, it's more like $1.20 lol
[2015-11-29 06:15:24] SnackyCoins : still great for $2500 worth of buying
[2015-11-29 06:15:45] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-11-29 06:55:16] rapidtrades : how it goin fellas?
[2015-11-29 07:37:57] rapidtrades : no trades in almost 1 hour
[2015-11-29 08:30:47] rapidtrades : the three stages of depression :
[2015-11-29 08:30:52] rapidtrades : 1. BUY THE DIP
[2015-11-29 08:30:57] rapidtrades : 2. GET REKT
[2015-11-29 08:31:00] rapidtrades : 3. PROFIT
[2015-11-29 08:53:42] rapidtrades : it's impossible to get filled today
[2015-11-29 08:54:21] rapidtrades : only the bots are trading
[2015-11-29 08:59:04] micmix : poor bots can't get even a minute of rest :-)
[2015-11-29 09:46:10] rapidtrades : micmix: uck em
[2015-11-29 09:48:09] micmix : rapidtrades: you can make some money of them: buy from 6k bot, wait until the price goes up $2 then to the same bot. you could've done that couple of times today if you are as fast as your username suggest
[2015-11-29 09:48:24] micmix : * then sell to the same bot
[2015-11-29 09:48:48] rapidtrades : micmix: do u know how much it costs to market buy
[2015-11-29 09:50:58] micmix : yes, 0.15% both ways. anything over $0.50 price difference puts you in profit
[2015-11-29 09:51:18] rapidtrades : good luck with that strategy
[2015-11-29 09:51:57] rapidtrades : u should try it and let me know how it goes
[2015-11-29 09:55:54] micmix : I'm not fast like rapidtrades, I let bots do the work :-)
[2015-11-29 09:56:15] rapidtrades : micmix: nice try bot runner :)
[2015-11-29 09:59:41] zanza : Swedishnut: did you ever talk to them about investment into the site?
[2015-11-29 10:01:00] rapidtrades : lol I'm starting to get flashes of that pop-up window ''your order has been filled''
[2015-11-29 10:01:21] rapidtrades : it feels like a dream the last time I got filled
[2015-11-29 10:01:27] rapidtrades : so long ago, so far away....
[2015-11-29 10:26:30] rapidtrades : cmon trade guys....use it or lose it
[2015-11-29 10:30:57] zanza : everyone is waiting for that 400 spike
[2015-11-29 10:32:57] rapidtrades : zanza: not everyone :)
[2015-11-29 10:33:29] rapidtrades : btw there's still a premium
[2015-11-29 10:35:06] zanza : it as just 360
[2015-11-29 10:35:33] rapidtrades : what are u saying