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[2017-04-15 23:29:08] laisee : Shoba: thanks, was not around during the the :Big Dip
[2017-04-15 23:29:19] Sultan Pepper : Found it
[2017-04-15 23:29:20] datboiyuan : @robit That's crazy. Should have been filled for sure
[2017-04-15 23:29:33] laisee : was mark price recalculated? if not, how did the REKTs happen
[2017-04-15 23:29:40] Pablo : dropped 1/4 value instantly when one exchange reported 0.
[2017-04-15 23:29:49] sleger : for swap yes
[2017-04-15 23:29:49] rangle : Swap uses index price for REKT
[2017-04-15 23:30:00] cg : mark price went below 900 because gdax reported essentially 0
[2017-04-15 23:30:08] sleger : for swap
[2017-04-15 23:30:13] cg : yes
[2017-04-15 23:30:24] sleger : no i am not asking i am telling
[2017-04-15 23:30:27] Pablo : No that many sellers... who got the money?
[2017-04-15 23:30:28] laisee : ok. still a bit forked up
[2017-04-15 23:30:32] robit : datboiyuan: Yeah. If I look in the order history it shows they were cancelled when the glitch happened. i didnt cancel them though llol it was auto canceled or something
[2017-04-15 23:30:33] shiroe : so if coinbase dropped to 6 cents, it means someone dumped. Just like in 2014 when btc price went from 800 to 150 coz 15000 btc is sold from stolen site.
[2017-04-15 23:30:35] rapidgains : 800 wow lol
[2017-04-15 23:31:01] Sultan Pepper : Low here was 1115?
[2017-04-15 23:31:07] rangle : those are some stupid criminals
[2017-04-15 23:31:09] Chade : wasn't the volume of the dump like 140 btc?
[2017-04-15 23:31:14] rapidgains : suggestion would be to change weight of each exchange if they exceed the average of the others
[2017-04-15 23:31:16] Pablo : $880 I think
[2017-04-15 23:31:22] L9 : shiroe: I think it is just a bug
[2017-04-15 23:31:23] Chade : gdax just an empty orderbook
[2017-04-15 23:31:34] Sultan Pepper : I didnt get a 1077 filled
[2017-04-15 23:31:46] meyerbriggs : BITMEX - you need to roll those trades back. If this doesn't get fixed I'm gone for good
[2017-04-15 23:31:59] Pablo : Agreed
[2017-04-15 23:32:00] Chade : heeeelll no
[2017-04-15 23:32:02] sleger : Sultan Pepper: i got 1150 though XBTUSD 2569 2569 0 1150.2
[2017-04-15 23:32:02] MONEROBAKER : Also said I got filled at 1187 first. Then got logged out and when ai log in again my short was filled at 1131.
[2017-04-15 23:32:03] rapidgains : gdax went down for maintenance, who knows how it got fucked
[2017-04-15 23:32:08] MONEROBAKER : Fck this
[2017-04-15 23:32:09] sleger : meyerbriggs: bye
[2017-04-15 23:32:21] Sultan Pepper : sleger: yeah i got my 1125
[2017-04-15 23:32:25] Jsgh : Gdax went down for maintenance. Shouldn't that have been accounted for?
[2017-04-15 23:32:30] shiroe : L9: hopefully.
[2017-04-15 23:33:05] stf28 : MONEROBAKER: take screenshots
[2017-04-15 23:33:07] 123abc : why are people dumping on swap $5 below mark price
[2017-04-15 23:33:09] stf28 : when this happens
[2017-04-15 23:33:32] shiroe : good short. 1 week chart says we can hit 1k again.
[2017-04-15 23:33:42] 123abc : 1 week MACD waiting to break down
[2017-04-15 23:33:48] 123abc : epic dump incoming eventually
[2017-04-15 23:33:53] InvalidUser : WTF
[2017-04-15 23:34:06] rangle : o.o
[2017-04-15 23:34:15] shiroe : right on. :D
[2017-04-15 23:34:27] L9 : The problem is not in BitMex, trading is a high-risk business, never risk more than 1-5% of your depo
[2017-04-15 23:34:34] InvalidUser : My Leverage just jumped to 100x and back down
[2017-04-15 23:35:00] InvalidUser : Time-warp enabled
[2017-04-15 23:35:12] BitMEX_Arthur : Guys we are still investigating; however, we will not be rolling back any trades.
[2017-04-15 23:35:18] shiroe : 1k x 2 eth buy in 6 hours, 1k btc buy on dash. someone wants out of btc.
[2017-04-15 23:35:21] level2 : uhhh
[2017-04-15 23:35:22] Chade : an asteroid just droped on my pc and killed it while I was 100x short at 120
[2017-04-15 23:35:36] shiroe : it is a sign. :D
[2017-04-15 23:36:09] shiroe : make it 5k eth buy within 6 hours. lol
[2017-04-15 23:36:27] 123abc : BitMEX_Arthur: how many people got margin called in the error?
[2017-04-15 23:36:32] shiroe : why not buy LTC you piece of shiet.
[2017-04-15 23:36:44] Shoba : 123abc: 8
[2017-04-15 23:36:48] datboiyuan : BitMEX_Arthur: Why not? Didn't you roll back trades with LTC?
[2017-04-15 23:36:55] 123abc : Shoba: that's hard to believe
[2017-04-15 23:37:01] cg : what a joke this is
[2017-04-15 23:37:05] MikeHunt : who got rekt?
[2017-04-15 23:37:09] BitMEX_Sam : datboiyuan: This is a different situation; the error was on GDAX's side in this case, not on ours. That said, we are looking into what will be fair for our customers
[2017-04-15 23:37:34] rangle : i thought there was a rule about erroneous exchange prices
[2017-04-15 23:37:40] datboiyuan : I'm short so I didn't lose, it's just concerning for the future
[2017-04-15 23:37:47] rangle : granted, it was a real reported price from GDAX
[2017-04-15 23:37:50] 123abc : rangle: if exchange stops reporting price it gets dropped after 15 minutes
[2017-04-15 23:38:02] BitMEX_Sam : There is a rule about *missing* exchange prices, but not erroneous ones.
[2017-04-15 23:38:07] datboiyuan : Also 1broker is rolling back trades
[2017-04-15 23:38:09] rangle : i see, thanks
[2017-04-15 23:38:18] cg : so I can make a deal with some random exchange on your index price list to make a false report in order to liquidate positions as I please? wow
[2017-04-15 23:38:34] Shoba : datboiyuan: someone no one has ever heard of is doing something? good to know
[2017-04-15 23:38:35] meyerbriggs : If trades are not rolling back I'm gone & spreading the word not to trade here. It's just not safe. Absolutely absurd. Even if it wasn't your error there need to be safeguards from this. What a joke, I've been a champion for you guys for a while
[2017-04-15 23:38:46] cg : agreed
[2017-04-15 23:38:54] MikeHunt : +1
[2017-04-15 23:39:01] shillosopher : +1
[2017-04-15 23:39:02] datboiyuan : Shoba: Plenty of people use 1broker dude
[2017-04-15 23:39:06] Chade : -1
[2017-04-15 23:39:07] meyerbriggs : cant vouch for this place anymore at all, disgusted
[2017-04-15 23:39:11] 123abc : that's the price of trading on high leverage
[2017-04-15 23:39:18] sleger : told you "[2017-04-15 23:22:38] sleger : what is there to assess ? bitmex engine worked as expected, which is the only case for rollbacks"
[2017-04-15 23:39:21] 123abc : go somewhere else and trade on 100x then
[2017-04-15 23:39:22] mark121 : imagine a person who had no position yet right off the bat sides with the exchange , u dont need to
[2017-04-15 23:39:23] Davyd05 : it happened though, no doubt they should have a look at making a mechanism that can detect or alert them to a deviation
[2017-04-15 23:39:23] mark121 : its sleger
[2017-04-15 23:39:24] BitMEX_Sam : meyerbriggs: As I said before we intend to treat our customers right here. We will not be clawing back profits in this case but we are looking into what we can do to make this right for those who were liquidated.
[2017-04-15 23:39:44] rapidgains : poor bitmex
[2017-04-15 23:39:47] datboiyuan : BitMEX_Sam: That sounds fair
[2017-04-15 23:40:00] sleger : mark121: pathetic
[2017-04-15 23:40:01] mark121 : thats all u can ask for
[2017-04-15 23:40:03] Davyd05 : That sounds super fair, but should still look into a mechanism that might detect when other markets go dead,
[2017-04-15 23:40:05] 123abc : i'm guessing so many people were involved in this mess it isnt worth the headache to rollback trades
[2017-04-15 23:40:07] rapidgains : everyone was busting their balls to add exchanges to index
[2017-04-15 23:40:09] BitMEX_Sam : Davyd05: Agreed
[2017-04-15 23:40:10] rapidgains : then this happens lol
[2017-04-15 23:40:10] Chade : y'all gonna get some ripple for your losses
[2017-04-15 23:40:12] rangle : make GDAX pay them back lol
[2017-04-15 23:40:30] cryptobull : Sounds good Sam ?
[2017-04-15 23:40:38] MikeHunt : perhaps just focus on making sure it dont happen again
[2017-04-15 23:40:51] MikeHunt : maybe some sort of dampener on price to prevent wild spikes
[2017-04-15 23:40:52] Aarondaebak : I was liquidiated about 1 minute after I placed the trade when the bitmex price dropped 300 points because of the bug. since bitmex kept my deposit I think its fair I got it back
[2017-04-15 23:41:01] shiroe : it will happen again, time and again. when satoshi sold his million coins :D
[2017-04-15 23:41:13] cg : BitMEX_Sam: let's see what you come up with, but there should definitely be a fail save in the index calculation if exchange prices differ more than 50% for example
[2017-04-15 23:41:39] BitMEX_Sam : cg: We have such failsafes for the index itself but not for individual constituents; we will be implementing additional failsafes in the very near future to guard against this.
[2017-04-15 23:41:45] shiroe : cg: +1. 50% in just a minute.
[2017-04-15 23:41:47] JasonLi : BitMEX_Sam: Why my position is sop lossed at 1065.3 at today 7:02:57
[2017-04-15 23:41:53] JasonLi : WTH is going on？
[2017-04-15 23:42:02] BitMEX_Sam : JasonLi: See above; we received an incorrect index price from GDAX
[2017-04-15 23:42:03] meyerbriggs : I know you have been great in the past. I'll wait and see what you come up with & give you the benefit of the doubt but I can't believe my position went from profit to liquidated for absolutely no reason, it's making trading here feel too dangerous to be worth it
[2017-04-15 23:42:35] MikeHunt : i was short at time but this could have easily gone the other way
[2017-04-15 23:42:39] zqooN : sleger gave a solution a few days back... median vs average
[2017-04-15 23:42:40] JasonLi : BitMEX_Sam: What
[2017-04-15 23:42:44] JasonLi : What will you do?
[2017-04-15 23:42:45] shiroe : it is dangerous! so never use cross levarage.
[2017-04-15 23:43:11] stf28 : gdax margin halted
[2017-04-15 23:43:20] BitMEX_Sam : JasonLi: We are still assessing, please wait while we dig through the history.
[2017-04-15 23:43:33] stf28 : "major outage" does mean trades were actually executed at this price there?
[2017-04-15 23:44:28] robit : BitMEX_Sam: I know the larger issue was with the swap but I had bids on xbtm17 auto cancelled. I had bids at around 1150 that didn't get filled even though there were fills in the 1120s. I am 99% sure I didn't cancel those bids myself. Can you look into that as well. It looked like they were auto cancelled when the temporary drop happoened
[2017-04-15 23:44:40] frog : most likely actually executed
[2017-04-15 23:44:46] BitMEX_Sam : robit: You may have had `Close` stop losses set
[2017-04-15 23:45:06] justinlooking : robit did u have leveraged long pos in xbtusd at same time?
[2017-04-15 23:45:09] frog : maybe when switching databases
[2017-04-15 23:45:37] robit : they were limit orders with no stop losses set. I had a leveraged long open on the june futures not the swap
[2017-04-15 23:45:44] JasonLi : BitMEX_Sam: When will you guys come up with a valid solution? I feel like really bad, to be honest.
[2017-04-15 23:46:04] BitMEX_Sam : JasonLi: I understand your frustration. Please give us some time, this event was only minutes ago.
[2017-04-15 23:46:05] mark121 : zqooN: so does that mean he recognized the issue until taking the opposite positive today lol
[2017-04-15 23:46:15] mark121 : position*
[2017-04-15 23:46:31] zqooN : mark121: nope two different things
[2017-04-15 23:46:51] mark121 : but u brought it up sa a solution
[2017-04-15 23:46:54] mark121 : so not really
[2017-04-15 23:47:25] jij : sounds like shorts and longs got fucked
[2017-04-15 23:47:35] flux : BitMEX_Sam: Do yourself a favor and use the btce for price indexing, they are the only exchange that is reliable
[2017-04-15 23:47:45] zqooN : mark121: it is a solution to prevent these things. But as it is not prevented and not in the T&C you can't clawback profits made
[2017-04-15 23:47:47] datboiyuan : Guys Bitmex is letting everyone keep their profit and filled orders, and is making things right for people who lost. What are you complaining about?
[2017-04-15 23:48:12] rapidgains : adding more exchanges wont fix the underlying problem here
[2017-04-15 23:48:16] datboiyuan : Guys Bitmex is letting everyone keep their profit and filled orders, and is making things right for people who lost. What are you complaining about?
[2017-04-15 23:48:20] cg : We don't know what they actually gonna do so lets wait..
[2017-04-15 23:48:25] rapidgains : that would only average the average price when it works
[2017-04-15 23:48:40] zqooN : datboiyuan: +1
[2017-04-15 23:48:48] Farzad : hey guys, what exactly happened ?
[2017-04-15 23:48:52] Farzad : I was afk
[2017-04-15 23:48:57] mark121 : zqooN: oh ok so the answe to my Q is yes he did lol
[2017-04-15 23:49:00] frog : they cant clawback profits but have discretion to compensate peoples losses
[2017-04-15 23:49:00] Farzad : did the price fall ? or only index ?
[2017-04-15 23:49:06] rapidgains : index
[2017-04-15 23:49:08] JasonLi : I want my long position back
[2017-04-15 23:49:15] rapidgains : price fell but only to an extent
[2017-04-15 23:49:21] jij : recked
[2017-04-15 23:49:22] InvalidUser : Gdax spammed the wrong price during maintenance
[2017-04-15 23:49:55] zqooN : mark121: I still disagree with you. But I think it is more about the beef betwen you guys
[2017-04-15 23:50:56] j8 : GDAX at 6 cents and i missed the fun :(
[2017-04-15 23:51:15] mark121 : zqooN: no its about being a miserable ass when u dont need to be
[2017-04-15 23:51:40] mark121 : zqooN: thats all (not u) lol
[2017-04-15 23:51:44] shillosopher : if gdax is in maintenance, why is the price still used to calculated the index? seems 100% bitmex fault, no?
[2017-04-15 23:52:02] flux : why not use bitcoin average for index?
[2017-04-15 23:52:13] frog : shillosopher: went maintenance after mistake but is still tading
[2017-04-15 23:52:25] j8 : they were down for a couple hours, shouldn't be using the very first tick once they're up
[2017-04-15 23:52:28] 123abc : shillosopher: good point
[2017-04-15 23:52:33] cg : they do, the average went below 900 which caused auto-liquidations
[2017-04-15 23:52:47] 123abc : shillosopher: maybe gdax came back online and later reported bad price
[2017-04-15 23:53:40] shillosopher : hmm I dunno exactly when gdax was under maintenance
[2017-04-15 23:53:46] stf28 : shillosopher: apparently gdax maintenance was scheduled and all orders canceled before the "drop" https://status.gdax.com/
[2017-04-15 23:54:03] j8 : but the lowest liquidation was 1142.1?
[2017-04-15 23:54:07] BitMEX_Sam : We will be temporarily removing GDAX from the `.BXBT` index at 00:10 UTC today.
[2017-04-15 23:54:16] datboiyuan : I think rolling back orders and clawing back profits would be fair. I don't want to benefit from something like this if it means others lose because one day I'll be on the other side. Bitmex is going above rolling back orders so I really don't understand those who are complaining.
[2017-04-15 23:54:29] shillosopher : stf28: so scheduled maintenance for gdax and bitmex still uses it to calculate index???
[2017-04-15 23:54:32] BitMEX_Sam : The impact on the index will be roughly +$1.30.
[2017-04-15 23:54:38] stf28 : apparently
[2017-04-15 23:54:57] stf28 : it seems that this maintenance and outage was scheduled
[2017-04-15 23:55:02] stf28 : https://status.gdax.com/
[2017-04-15 23:55:15] BitMEX_Sam : shillosopher: We automatically removed them, as expected; however when coming back online, they printed bad trades
[2017-04-15 23:55:31] BitMEX_Sam : We did not expect bad data and thus the index temporarily moved much lower than it normally would have.
[2017-04-15 23:55:33] shillosopher : BitMEX_Sam: should have a buffer
[2017-04-15 23:55:36] shillosopher : time buffer
[2017-04-15 23:55:41] jeisonb : BitMEX_Sam: i've lost all my xbt. Bitmex must give them back
[2017-04-15 23:55:48] zqooN : mark121: just to be clear, 1 this could be prevented by median vs average (but that is not implemented yet) a valid solution, 2 Bitmex can't clawback as it is not in their rules (as of yet), they admitted to look for a solution for the liqs but said themselves they can't clawback nor they shouldn't. So 3 Bitmex should make a mechanism it wont happen again (like median) and as goodwill for their customers rebalnce the liqs (but that will cost them some)
[2017-04-15 23:56:00] BitMEX_Sam : shillosopher: We will be implementing more sanity checks on this. In the meantime we will be removing GDAX temporarily.
[2017-04-15 23:56:12] Farzad : datboiyuan: I will not accept any rollback of executed trades. my bot has hedged positions. bitmex cant roll back one side of my hedge !
[2017-04-15 23:56:14] BitMEX_Sam : We also will be working with our customers to make this right.
[2017-04-15 23:56:17] mark121 : zqooN: how can u disagree, if one is offering a solution for someting, he inherently recognizes a potential problem or issue
[2017-04-15 23:56:25] flux : fuck gdax irs honey pot
[2017-04-15 23:56:30] flux : fuk
[2017-04-15 23:56:33] mark121 : zqooN: and i didnt say anything about profits clawedback
[2017-04-15 23:56:55] mark121 : if anything $ invested, or principal is all u can hope fo r
[2017-04-15 23:57:04] Farzad : use insurance fund to compensate traders who lost unfairly
[2017-04-15 23:57:05] BitMEX_Sam : To be clear, the action is: 1. GDAX removal from `.BXBT` at 00:10 UTC. 2. No rollback of trades. 3. We will be working on loss reimbursements shortly.
[2017-04-15 23:57:23] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks ! it is great.
[2017-04-15 23:57:40] MikeHunt : all heil bitmex
[2017-04-15 23:57:40] meyerbriggs : Thank you Sam I appreciate it.
[2017-04-15 23:57:44] stf28 : nice
[2017-04-15 23:59:26] BitMEX_Sam : For reference, https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/index/.BXBT reflects what the `.BXBT` price will be after GDAX removal.
[2017-04-15 23:59:40] aguia7 : One more reason, not to operate using too much margin, and a lot of leverage.
[2017-04-15 23:59:53] zqooN : mark121: if you recognize a problem in the process of a mechanism and the mechanism works as it should it will make that problem happen and thus works perfectly
[2017-04-16 00:00:00] zqooN : im out the Misses needs me
[2017-04-16 00:01:20] mark121 : wtf
[2017-04-16 00:02:09] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: there are sanity checks on the mark price? index printed 888.48 but no one was liquidated below 1100 even
[2017-04-16 00:02:10] shiroe : i almost got rekt there, if i didn't sold at 7:00
[2017-04-16 00:02:28] mark121 : zqooN: that doesnt make any sense
[2017-04-16 00:02:42] 123abc : damn stop dumping $5 below mark price on swap
[2017-04-16 00:03:28] Farzad : 123abc: why ? are u long ? :D
[2017-04-16 00:03:32] Farzad : /price
[2017-04-16 00:03:33] L9 : BitMEX_Sam: Do you have plans for redesigning mark price as well? I often see the mark price 50+ pips away from actual one.
[2017-04-16 00:03:34] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1170.03 (0.02%) Bitfinex : 1190.50 (-0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1182.33 (-0.31%) itBit : 1178.80 (0.55%) Kraken : 1175.00 (0.42%) GDAX : 1176.60 (1.87%) SLQ : 56 mins```
[2017-04-16 00:03:44] 123abc : Farzad: yeah
[2017-04-16 00:04:01] BitMEX_Sam : L9: We don't consider it a problem that mark != last in many circumstances, in the case of the swap this is what the funding rate is designed to handle.
[2017-04-16 00:04:14] BitMEX_Sam : That said, there will be new sanity checks implemented very soon to handle possible bad prices from exchanges.
[2017-04-16 00:04:21] rapidgains : nice
[2017-04-16 00:04:22] mark121 : zqooN: by definition, if you recognize a problem, and it is legitimate, that system is by defintiion no longer perfect
[2017-04-16 00:04:58] L9 : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks for the answer on my question and sanity checks issue.
[2017-04-16 00:05:18] MikeHunt : i wonder if rapidtrades got out when it dipped to 800s
[2017-04-16 00:05:25] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-04-16 00:05:31] rapidgains : joke never gets old
[2017-04-16 00:05:56] longbydefault : MikeHunt: lol
[2017-04-16 00:06:14] Shoba : is there a way to check individual prices used in an index on here, instead of just the composite? (rather than going directly to check the price at the exchanges themselves)
[2017-04-16 00:06:29] mark121 : in ur charting tool
[2017-04-16 00:06:39] mark121 : no watchlistÉ
[2017-04-16 00:06:55] mark121 : ?* sorry keyboard bugged for symbols
[2017-04-16 00:07:13] BitMEX_Sam : Shoba: At this time no, but we will be adding that soon. In the meantime I recommend https://cryptowat.ch
[2017-04-16 00:07:44] rapidgains : https://cryptowat.ch/coinbase/btcusd
[2017-04-16 00:08:35] mark121 : tradingview is another option
[2017-04-16 00:09:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJM17`: sell 40 @ 131807
[2017-04-16 00:09:21] simple : BitMEX guys who should I contact ?
[2017-04-16 00:09:37] mark121 : your parents!
[2017-04-16 00:09:57] BitMEX_Sam : simple: We will be doing an announcement very soon. In the meantime, if you would like, email support@bitmex.com.
[2017-04-16 00:10:08] simple : ok thank you
[2017-04-16 00:11:58] JasonLi : Thanks for quick answering. I'm waiting for the announcement online. @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-04-16 00:12:25] stf28 : hey does anybody knows what does mean >Canceled: Zero leavesQty after: Amended orderQty price: Amended via API.
[2017-04-16 00:12:59] mark121 : it means using an API u canceled ur order
[2017-04-16 00:13:49] j8 : stf28: orderQty includes parts that were already taken, so if you amend it to less than was already filled, there is nothing left
[2017-04-16 00:13:51] stf28 : i used api like 10000 times to cancel orders but this is the first ["text"] of this kind
[2017-04-16 00:14:08] j8 : i believe you can amend leavesQty instead
[2017-04-16 00:15:23] stf28 : j8: humm thanks for helping
[2017-04-16 00:15:35] stf28 : j8: it happened to you also?
[2017-04-16 00:15:36] datboiyuan : Farzad: Hedging on different exchanges?
[2017-04-16 00:16:14] datboiyuan : That's fine, I'm just saying I think it's reasonable.
[2017-04-16 00:16:19] j8 : stf28: yeah, i think the first time i tried to do amends i got it wrong. leavesQty is the amount that's actually showing
[2017-04-16 00:16:58] stf28 : ok makes sense !! thanks :)
[2017-04-16 00:17:06] j8 : np
[2017-04-16 00:21:54] rapidgains : liquidity is only possible here if mm hedge on other exchanges
[2017-04-16 00:22:09] rapidgains : thats why rolling back isnt an option
[2017-04-16 00:22:18] datboiyuan : Sam just posted in telegram that they are compensating people with their own funds. That's pretty remarkable.
[2017-04-16 00:22:25] mark121 : woot
[2017-04-16 00:22:38] mark121 : way to go bitmex proud of you
[2017-04-16 00:22:43] stf28 : waw
[2017-04-16 00:24:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 588 @ 0.04190
[2017-04-16 00:24:29] InvalidUser : Nice job Bitmex. Even though I didn't loose anything I am happy to keep trading here.
[2017-04-16 00:24:40] j8 : it's an honorable gesture, i think the losses were tiny though. could have easily been $millions if it liquidated down to 888
[2017-04-16 00:26:43] InvalidUser : <--------- Adds Buy order for 1 million contracts @ 0.061
[2017-04-16 00:27:06] j8 : you would need a lot of btc to do that
[2017-04-16 00:27:18] InvalidUser : It would be worth it
[2017-04-16 00:27:19] j8 : more than is in existence
[2017-04-16 00:27:37] InvalidUser : it would be a 100x trade
[2017-04-16 00:28:23] j8 : well then you would get rekt at 0.0607
[2017-04-16 00:28:52] InvalidUser : The risk / reward ratio is pretty good you have to admit
[2017-04-16 00:29:07] j8 : no actually it's terrible
[2017-04-16 00:29:36] InvalidUser : You are just trying to front run my trade
[2017-04-16 00:29:53] j8 : ok, you got me
[2017-04-16 00:30:53] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-16 00:33:39] BitMEX_Arthur : Please check your email for the official announcement.
[2017-04-16 00:36:15] mark121 : no email :(
[2017-04-16 00:36:33] BitMEX_Arthur : Might take a few minutes
[2017-04-16 00:36:54] L9 : Just good an email thanks @BitMEX_Arthur
[2017-04-16 00:36:56] cg : No email, I got a reimbursement though, -thank you!
[2017-04-16 00:37:12] mark121 : same
[2017-04-16 00:37:37] L9 : Just *got an email. Sorry my Englsih is bad
[2017-04-16 00:39:00] mark121 : im guessing that the reimbursement is equal to the value of position at the liquidation price
[2017-04-16 00:39:39] shillosopher : BitMEX_Arthur: much appreciated
[2017-04-16 00:39:49] L9 : What exchange would be used instead of GDAX?
[2017-04-16 00:39:51] j8 : BitMEX_Arthur: how much did it cost ya
[2017-04-16 00:39:59] CLAW : hey guys what is 'transfer' meaning?
[2017-04-16 00:40:09] mark121 : means to move something
[2017-04-16 00:40:18] CLAW : ah thx :p
[2017-04-16 00:40:30] CLAW : suddenly got some bits by transfer
[2017-04-16 00:40:35] CLAW : not deposit
[2017-04-16 00:40:46] mark121 : cus bitmex did it
[2017-04-16 00:40:53] cg : it's the reimbursement
[2017-04-16 00:40:54] Armis : By the way during day , when I was pressing on button to open bitmex chart in tradingwiev , in 30 min chart time after time happen something strange
[2017-04-16 00:41:28] CLAW : cg: thx haha
[2017-04-16 00:41:32] L9 : Thanks guys, for resolving the issue. I wasn't trading that moment, but thanks for taking care of other traders.
[2017-04-16 00:42:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Btimex is tops
[2017-04-16 00:42:28] Armis : I think that it was some lag at that moment because when I was checking in other times and in bitmex chart , nothing like that I didn't saw
[2017-04-16 00:44:12] Sultan Pepper : Yo did bitmex really refund margin calls and *not* roll back filled orders? They rock
[2017-04-16 00:44:37] InvalidUser : k+
[2017-04-16 00:44:57] Armis : But sometimes on tradingwiev it show me candle which was going down till 1120 or something like that , when I refreshing page it disapier , and it happen just twice , .
[2017-04-16 00:45:13] mark121 : if the body of candle reaches a point
[2017-04-16 00:45:16] mark121 : there will be a wick left
[2017-04-16 00:45:23] InvalidUser : Glitch in the Matrix
[2017-04-16 00:45:24] Armis : But there wasn't
[2017-04-16 00:45:28] Armis : Th as why I
[2017-04-16 00:45:34] cg : Did you guys get the email?
[2017-04-16 00:45:36] Armis : In that moment think
[2017-04-16 00:45:40] InvalidUser : nope
[2017-04-16 00:45:54] Armis : That it's some lag . Whit tradingwiev or my pc
[2017-04-16 00:45:58] InvalidUser : yes just now
[2017-04-16 00:46:13] robit : Kudos to the Bitmex team for not rolling back trades and reimbursing everyone. I wasn't affected personally butt was curious to how they would handle it. Well done
[2017-04-16 00:46:53] Armis : Sad that I didn't take print screen in that time .
[2017-04-16 00:48:35] meyerbriggs : Ok guys, faith restored. Really impressed, LUV U BITMEX
[2017-04-16 00:49:52] cg : Agreed, thank you for making this right!
[2017-04-16 00:50:44] JasonLi : BitMEX_Arthur: @BitMEX_Sam I receive the compensations, thanx a lot!
[2017-04-16 00:51:43] L9 : I have a stupid question. When the contract is settled, what does it mean. Am I paying or I am paid at the settlement date?
[2017-04-16 00:52:58] zanza : almost feel like the index should ignore a price if its over 25% out of range of others
[2017-04-16 00:53:20] Rookie : I trust BitMEX
[2017-04-16 00:53:22] Rookie : lack of regulations to comply with, minimized security risk, a team with integrity that always seems to handle the madness well
[2017-04-16 00:53:41] Rookie : I have to earn my rekts here
[2017-04-16 00:55:09] mark121 : lack of regulations to comply with
[2017-04-16 00:55:18] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-16 00:55:41] robit : L9: Settlement means the contract expires and your position is force closed at the current price. If the position was in profit you are paid, if the position was in loss those losses are realized
[2017-04-16 00:56:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Agreed in a free unregulated market the best rise to the top. Bitmex and Btc-e
[2017-04-16 00:56:25] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-04-16 00:56:28] 123abc : Sultan Pepper: when the chat mods go hungry we know why
[2017-04-16 00:57:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, we should probably tip the chat mods
[2017-04-16 00:58:29] 123abc : I'm sure bitmex made loads of money during etf pump
[2017-04-16 00:58:45] L9 : robit: ok, thanks, got it
[2017-04-16 01:02:58] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-16 01:02:59] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1173.26 (0.28%) Bitfinex : 1199.70 (0.77%) The Woodchipper : 1191.30 (0.76%) itBit : 1180.90 (0.18%) Kraken : 1186.45 (0.97%) GDAX : 1184.41 (0.66%) SLQ : 59 mins```
[2017-04-16 01:03:24] shillosopher : /sentiment
[2017-04-16 01:03:26] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 28.37 / 71.63 Daily : 55.64 / 44.36 Weekly : 48.44 / 51.56 Monthly : 50.23 / 49.77```
[2017-04-16 01:09:19] mark121 : Ugly_Old_Goat: arent u Bitmex Arthurs other account
[2017-04-16 01:09:25] mark121 : I kid
[2017-04-16 01:12:50] frog : anyone interested in ltc?
[2017-04-16 01:13:20] mark121 : il take itoff your hands
[2017-04-16 01:13:33] frog : you buying or selling?
[2017-04-16 01:15:04] frog : ur chart should show retracement due
[2017-04-16 01:15:51] frog : i think opposite of breakout triangle
[2017-04-16 01:16:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : mark121: ???
[2017-04-16 01:16:33] mark121 : if u heard me other day think i nailed it!
[2017-04-16 01:16:58] InvalidUser : They are having a royal shit at https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinBase/new/
[2017-04-16 01:16:59] mark121 : my guess was we wud .0114 (same as last high) and basically doubletop
[2017-04-16 01:17:57] InvalidUser : There has been no response from Coinbase either. I thought is was just an API error that does not seem to be the case.
[2017-04-16 01:18:05] frog : i see 3 moves up, each one getting weaker
[2017-04-16 01:18:16] plappa : u guys still short on btc?
[2017-04-16 01:18:17] rangle : reddit... gross
[2017-04-16 01:18:21] frog : last move up was into selling
[2017-04-16 01:18:22] plappa : think we could go lower than this
[2017-04-16 01:18:31] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/g8wRY4Qw/
[2017-04-16 01:19:11] mark121 : thats the situation so yes, id think down is more likely than up :P
[2017-04-16 01:19:35] frog : i think if you long may be prudent to at least reduce
[2017-04-16 01:20:00] frog : also i just ran the numbers on hashes for segwit
[2017-04-16 01:20:28] mark121 : well the bull side is this fomration, sec
[2017-04-16 01:21:40] frog : im not expert but when repeatedly going up to resistance each time is less and less buying is not good for breakout to upside
[2017-04-16 01:22:17] mark121 : well
[2017-04-16 01:22:36] mark121 : that doesnt say anything without the lows
[2017-04-16 01:22:41] shillosopher : short ltc, buy btc?
[2017-04-16 01:22:54] mark121 : theyve been correlated
[2017-04-16 01:23:18] mark121 : so without checkin recent day that wud be not a good move il chekc tho
[2017-04-16 01:24:00] mark121 : frog: u just described an ascending right angle triangle
[2017-04-16 01:24:22] InvalidUser : /rekt
[2017-04-16 01:24:22] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 2 hours, 21 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 1 day, 18 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 220000 @ 1193.2 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 2 days, 7 hours, 56 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150000 @ 1156.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-16 01:24:55] frog : mark121: is that bullish?
[2017-04-16 01:25:10] mark121 : that pattern yes
[2017-04-16 01:26:00] mark121 : the one we described (doesnt mean its doin that) lol
[2017-04-16 01:26:03] frog : need volume on up to confirm?
[2017-04-16 01:26:10] mark121 : no
[2017-04-16 01:26:20] frog : what will confirm
[2017-04-16 01:26:30] mark121 : the volume descending is like a spring coiling
[2017-04-16 01:26:43] Sultan Pepper : ETF approved or nah?
[2017-04-16 01:26:44] mark121 : in the pattern and most
[2017-04-16 01:27:04] InvalidUser : Sultan Pepper: I hope not. Fuk Wall St
[2017-04-16 01:27:12] mark121 : ETF wil nevr be improved
[2017-04-16 01:27:44] mark121 : unles its a part of plan to destroy crypto :p
[2017-04-16 01:27:53] mark121 : approved*
[2017-04-16 01:28:27] mark121 : frog let me look at chart n give a real opinion lol
[2017-04-16 01:29:21] mark121 : on the weekly there has been nonstop buying for past several weeks
[2017-04-16 01:29:22] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/PuLIVWJ8/
[2017-04-16 01:29:40] mark121 : but meaningles for ur Q
[2017-04-16 01:32:58] mark121 : if we are to assume the drop on btc was manipulated to match the ETF action then a hugely rally shud come now
[2017-04-16 01:34:36] mark121 : but that aint tradeworthy on its own :p
[2017-04-16 01:34:44] mark121 : advice *
[2017-04-16 01:34:58] frog : mark121: chart doesn't help
[2017-04-16 01:35:38] mark121 : i didnt post it
[2017-04-16 01:35:43] mark121 : yet
[2017-04-16 01:36:13] frog : ok
[2017-04-16 01:36:36] mark121 : but correllatiion with BTC did reverse to negative past day
[2017-04-16 01:36:36] frog : i think there is correlation between hashrates and lTC price
[2017-04-16 01:38:55] mark121 : if u want to know my trade im holding long (for ltc)
[2017-04-16 01:39:14] mark121 : i covered on the dip
[2017-04-16 01:39:24] mark121 : from 114
[2017-04-16 01:39:39] mark121 : and longed
[2017-04-16 01:44:46] mark121 : wil close at first sign of danger
[2017-04-16 01:44:58] mark121 : btc long but same idea
[2017-04-16 01:47:00] KingTuna : mark121: where'd you close at?
[2017-04-16 01:47:06] KingTuna : Risk and return this baby
[2017-04-16 01:47:17] KingTuna : i wish I was a jihan
[2017-04-16 01:47:38] frog : mark121: i closed by LTC longs and looking for short entry
[2017-04-16 01:47:39] mark121 : which coin
[2017-04-16 01:48:06] mark121 : short entry was a while ago
[2017-04-16 01:48:17] frog : LTC
[2017-04-16 01:48:38] mark121 : not u tuna
[2017-04-16 01:48:44] mark121 : not u, tuna i meant
[2017-04-16 01:48:51] frog : ok
[2017-04-16 01:49:05] KingTuna : Lol what
[2017-04-16 01:49:11] mark121 : ltc or btc
[2017-04-16 01:49:13] KingTuna : ah misread
[2017-04-16 01:49:28] KingTuna : on phone on the beach lol
[2017-04-16 01:49:48] mark121 : lucky u ! :)
[2017-04-16 01:50:33] KingTuna : Man if we were jihan Chung wu
[2017-04-16 01:50:44] KingTuna : yeeeeeee
[2017-04-16 01:50:50] KingTuna : $$$$
[2017-04-16 01:57:04] mark121 : frog i dont see any compelling reason to do so
[2017-04-16 01:58:09] mark121 : but this laptop is killing me ritght now so i reserve the right to be horribly wrong :p
[2017-04-16 01:59:41] KingTuna : LTC will make a new 'recent' ATH, before it is manipulated and dumped again
[2017-04-16 02:00:09] mark121 : cud now
[2017-04-16 02:00:33] mark121 : remmeber wwhat my guess was
[2017-04-16 02:00:44] KingTuna : Double top
[2017-04-16 02:00:51] mark121 : it hit like perfect
[2017-04-16 02:00:56] mark121 : .114
[2017-04-16 02:00:59] KingTuna : 0.0114 USB
[2017-04-16 02:01:01] KingTuna : ish
[2017-04-16 02:01:07] mark121 : sorry .0114
[2017-04-16 02:01:14] KingTuna : not yet again
[2017-04-16 02:01:33] KingTuna : but has to surpass it and if it does 0.012
[2017-04-16 02:04:37] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/DmJs7T05/
[2017-04-16 02:05:31] mark121 : however likely we both wil lbe right
[2017-04-16 02:06:41] mark121 : frog: u shud learn by now, when we disagree, go with me :p
[2017-04-16 02:07:29] mark121 : gota runa bbl tonite, enjoy ur vacation tuna
[2017-04-16 02:07:39] frog : TY mark
[2017-04-16 02:10:06] KingTuna : mark121: thanks
[2017-04-16 02:17:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 50 @ 0.004741
[2017-04-16 02:19:19] InvalidUser : 3 dollar spread on shitstamp
[2017-04-16 02:30:07] shiroe : confirmed, short it.
[2017-04-16 02:35:40] Armis : Hey , when I'm closing position , realised pnl is doubled yeah?
[2017-04-16 02:38:08] Armis : Alright never mind, will find out it in morning
[2017-04-16 02:41:29] startChat : what happened here
[2017-04-16 02:41:34] startChat : is this place a scam
[2017-04-16 02:41:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 44 @ 0.005030
[2017-04-16 02:41:45] shillosopher : startChat: wat
[2017-04-16 02:42:52] shiroe : damn fct time.
[2017-04-16 03:08:33] shillosopher : /sentiment
[2017-04-16 03:08:36] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 40.59 / 59.41 Daily : 54.35 / 45.65 Weekly : 48.42 / 51.58 Monthly : 50.16 / 49.84```
[2017-04-16 03:20:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 300 @ 0.00995
[2017-04-16 03:20:53] BigJElectronics : Anyone think there's a chance the GDAX on purpose accident, was for IRS summons valuation purposes, and not direct manipulation?
[2017-04-16 03:22:17] daveberns1 : BigJElectronics: thats wild
[2017-04-16 03:24:05] zanza : BigJElectronics: 5D chess?
[2017-04-16 03:30:47] BigJElectronics : I'm just trying to come up with reasons not to wish death upon them.
[2017-04-16 03:38:54] BigJElectronics : zanza: It fells like 5D twilight zone chess right now, because if GDAX gets removed from all of the indexes, how do the remaining ones get checked from becoming a now easier copycat? Also, they didn't bother to kill their own margin traders?
[2017-04-16 04:24:43] Pablo : BM made good on erroneous liquidations...
[2017-04-16 04:37:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 60 @ 0.00979
[2017-04-16 04:52:26] alfaCharlie : BitMEX will be refunding those users who were unfairly liquidated due to the pricing discrepancy from GDAX out of our own company funds.
[2017-04-16 04:52:54] rugu : what was that crazy drop in btc?
[2017-04-16 04:53:01] rugu : to 1125, did i miss something?
[2017-04-16 04:53:11] alfaCharlie : check ur email
[2017-04-16 04:54:08] rugu : oh lol, but what about the people who placed buy orders ? Their orders will be canceled?
[2017-04-16 04:54:29] MikeHunt : loose positions
[2017-04-16 04:54:41] oo : .BXBT Index looks horrible
[2017-04-16 04:54:58] rugu : trading is close to a 0 sum game, so
[2017-04-16 04:55:22] rugu : to compensate for the liquidation, the buyers need to have thier orders canceled as well right?
[2017-04-16 04:55:28] rugu : /rekt
[2017-04-16 04:55:28] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 5 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 1 day, 22 hours, 23 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 220000 @ 1193.2 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 2 days, 11 hours, 27 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150000 @ 1156.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-16 04:55:40] MikeHunt : rugu: nope, bitmex just refunding ppl
[2017-04-16 04:55:49] MikeHunt : put in place safety thingie to prevent future occurance
[2017-04-16 04:56:50] rugu : ahh well, sadly I didnt have any low random buy orders lined up
[2017-04-16 04:59:25] oo : Let me make a hypothesis.If you make money from the market manipulation, you will not refund money.
[2017-04-16 05:00:11] oo : If you lose money from market manipulation, you will ask for a refund.
[2017-04-16 05:06:24] alfaCharlie : no in the second case stop withdrawals and ....
[2017-04-16 05:08:51] MikeHunt : oo: exchange error != market manipulation
[2017-04-16 05:09:12] rugu : ^^
[2017-04-16 05:09:43] alfaCharlie : yup
[2017-04-16 05:12:05] alfaCharlie : but it also mean that they have power to do so intentionally also
[2017-04-16 05:12:42] rugu : btc so much sideways movement
[2017-04-16 05:12:55] plappa : im short here
[2017-04-16 05:12:58] plappa : on btc
[2017-04-16 05:13:08] plappa : tk cross
[2017-04-16 05:14:30] alfaCharlie : plappa: wahts your target 888 again ? ;p
[2017-04-16 05:14:45] plappa : ugh i was so stupid earleir i had 600 roe and was too dumb to close it
[2017-04-16 05:14:54] plappa : 1080 i think, but it could change
[2017-04-16 05:14:55] rugu : what?
[2017-04-16 05:15:11] plappa : earlier today i was cleaning my room and sat down and realized the gdax thing was happening
[2017-04-16 05:15:26] plappa : i'm fairly knew to trading and didn't realize it would go back to 80 percent fairly quickly, could've closed my position up 600 percent
[2017-04-16 05:15:31] rugu : ohh it was 4am for me, so i had nothing to do
[2017-04-16 05:15:37] oo : MikeHunt: While an exchange stopped, someone can continued to buy and sell, and someone can't do anything.I've seen such a lot of cases on Poloniex.
[2017-04-16 05:15:43] oo : This could be a market manipulation, maybe not.
[2017-04-16 05:19:06] frog : why is ltc going down?
[2017-04-16 05:21:02] plappa : why is a coin that just 2.5xd its market cap going down
[2017-04-16 05:26:27] rugu : cause what goes up must come down (eventually)
[2017-04-16 05:26:36] rugu : but its not dropped much
[2017-04-16 05:27:35] rugu : can someone confirm, Coinbase is adding LTC soon?
[2017-04-16 05:31:39] frog : looks like GDAX had same issue with ETH as with BTC earlier today as well, but Mitmex index not affected
[2017-04-16 05:32:36] frog : LTC going up now?
[2017-04-16 06:01:05] frog : Proashing should start signalling segwit tomorrow may help with a couple of extra %
[2017-04-16 06:17:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 100 @ 0.004984
[2017-04-16 06:22:23] mark121 : ésentiment
[2017-04-16 06:23:12] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-04-16 06:23:15] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 41.18 / 58.82 Daily : 53.15 / 46.85 Weekly : 48.59 / 51.41 Monthly : 49.99 / 50.01```
[2017-04-16 06:53:47] thomaskikansha : what happened to the down spike earlier? I dont see finex and stamp went down that much
[2017-04-16 06:55:01] Apocalyptic : thomaskikansha: GDAX went to 0.06
[2017-04-16 06:56:15] thomaskikansha : and I see some longs were rekt no rollback?
[2017-04-16 06:57:51] thomaskikansha : aww should have placed some low bids
[2017-04-16 06:59:17] bobismeme : they refunded
[2017-04-16 07:00:45] thomaskikansha : nice
[2017-04-16 07:10:54] Ahhere : Nice my 1150 buy got filled why the spike again?
[2017-04-16 07:11:07] bobismeme : gdax bug
[2017-04-16 07:13:08] thomaskikansha : gdax once quoted 0.06
[2017-04-16 07:13:10] Ahhere : Is bitmex mark including gdax?
[2017-04-16 07:13:30] thomaskikansha : yes the index went sub-900
[2017-04-16 07:13:57] KyllingLolsson : what was that spike
[2017-04-16 07:14:12] Ahhere : Wao could have been nasty
[2017-04-16 07:14:47] thomaskikansha : bitmex sent an email regarding the spike
[2017-04-16 07:15:02] Armis : mark121 here?
[2017-04-16 07:16:16] Ahhere : Wow just read email. I think i love bitmex that is very nice of them.
[2017-04-16 07:16:30] KyllingLolsson : yeah very nice!
[2017-04-16 07:16:40] KyllingLolsson : crazy spike tho
[2017-04-16 07:16:58] KyllingLolsson : it all happened within 15 minutes