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[2017-04-15 22:06:33] L9 : InvalidUser: Why?
[2017-04-15 22:06:45] Moonlighter : It is easter weekend tho so maybe not as many trading today
[2017-04-15 22:07:46] InvalidUser : Probably the Finex rumor and like @moonligher said easter.
[2017-04-15 22:11:42] L9 : InvalidUser: What us a finex rumor
[2017-04-15 22:11:53] L9 : *What is
[2017-04-15 22:12:52] InvalidUser : They are insolvent. I don't think that is true. It is because there USD withdraws have been mostly halted.
[2017-04-15 22:18:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 2 @ 0.065580
[2017-04-15 22:21:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3 @ 1190.8 :punch: :whale:
[2017-04-15 22:21:38] Ahhere : shillosopher: i think the ltc move from $4 was so obvious in hindsight. Long ltcusd is a classic asymmetric risk bet with segwit and bitcoins scaling saga
[2017-04-15 22:21:58] shillosopher : 20/20 ;)
[2017-04-15 22:22:38] rangle : DASH rocket
[2017-04-15 22:22:38] shiroe : btc rekting ball
[2017-04-15 22:22:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 28000 @ 1189.3
[2017-04-15 22:22:51] Ahhere : Well to be fair to me i longed at $5 just smaller than i coulda woulda shoulda Budda
[2017-04-15 22:23:27] Ahhere : Short euro anyone for the French election or is that played out
[2017-04-15 22:24:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 18 @ 0.065131
[2017-04-15 22:24:38] shiroe : abort btc, abort.
[2017-04-15 22:24:50] Dynamix : Shorting mar 31 ! go go go D
[2017-04-15 22:26:46] shiroe : 1125?
[2017-04-15 22:30:26] Ahhere : shiroe: yes 100x short asap
[2017-04-15 22:31:31] 123abc : dump dat btc
[2017-04-15 22:31:43] 123abc : lol dat dash pump
[2017-04-15 22:31:51] 123abc : so random
[2017-04-15 22:32:06] 123abc : FCT pumping like crazy
[2017-04-15 22:32:40] 123abc : FCT hasnt been this high since october
[2017-04-15 22:33:25] 123abc : LTC going back up
[2017-04-15 22:43:40] sleger : eth
[2017-04-15 22:43:46] 123abc : wow eth
[2017-04-15 22:43:48] 123abc : what is the news
[2017-04-15 22:44:20] rapidgains : Wtf
[2017-04-15 22:46:50] 123abc : 150,000 ETH market bought last 5 hours on poloniex
[2017-04-15 22:47:19] shiroe : some millionaires buy dash eth. 1k btc wtf
[2017-04-15 22:47:48] 123abc : FCT going up a lot too
[2017-04-15 22:48:05] 123abc : people want out of BTC
[2017-04-15 22:48:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3 @ 1184.6 :punch: :whale:
[2017-04-15 22:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 48000 @ 1184.1
[2017-04-15 22:51:26] daveberns1 : 123abc: ya alts are strong, but BTC isnt falling much either
[2017-04-15 22:51:50] shillosopher : lol btc isn't falling much?
[2017-04-15 22:52:11] sleger : unzoom your graph
[2017-04-15 22:52:12] sleger : it isnt
[2017-04-15 22:52:23] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-15 22:52:55] daveberns1 : pretty strong actually
[2017-04-15 22:53:14] daveberns1 : not to say it wont fall
[2017-04-15 22:53:32] daveberns1 : but pretty resilient, as usual
[2017-04-15 22:54:22] daveberns1 : sleger: whats the your fave alt these days?
[2017-04-15 22:55:27] daveberns1 : /sentiment
[2017-04-15 22:55:30] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 83.68 / 16.32 Daily : 59.42 / 40.58 Weekly : 48.05 / 51.96 Monthly : 50.25 / 49.75```
[2017-04-15 22:55:37] sleger : the mother of all coins : eth
[2017-04-15 22:56:04] daveberns1 : ya its definitely looking strong these days
[2017-04-15 22:56:24] daveberns1 : those tokens i bought @ < $1 are sitting pretty
[2017-04-15 22:56:46] daveberns1 : wish i had more actually
[2017-04-15 22:57:36] daveberns1 : sleger: how do you like ETC?
[2017-04-15 23:02:04] sleger : etc is just cancer sticking to eth
[2017-04-15 23:02:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40500 @ 1151.2
[2017-04-15 23:02:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1153.7
[2017-04-15 23:02:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1153.5 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-15 23:02:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-15 23:02:48] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2017-04-15 23:02:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2 @ 1142.1 :punch: :whale:
[2017-04-15 23:02:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2750 @ 1146.6
[2017-04-15 23:02:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15000 @ 1145.0
[2017-04-15 23:02:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60 @ 1146.9
[2017-04-15 23:02:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3000 @ 1146.1
[2017-04-15 23:02:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200 @ 1144.0
[2017-04-15 23:03:00] rangle : wtf
[2017-04-15 23:03:13] stf28 : whaat?
[2017-04-15 23:03:14] Shoba : what's goin on?
[2017-04-15 23:03:21] sleger : btc ded
[2017-04-15 23:03:22] level2 : uhhhh
[2017-04-15 23:03:24] cg : wtf?
[2017-04-15 23:03:33] InvalidUser : WOW
[2017-04-15 23:03:37] 123abc : stamp tanking
[2017-04-15 23:03:45] 123abc : bbands breaking down
[2017-04-15 23:03:55] 123abc : wtf @ mark price
[2017-04-15 23:03:57] cg : coinbase is at 0
[2017-04-15 23:04:03] cg : WTF
[2017-04-15 23:04:04] 123abc : 1122
[2017-04-15 23:04:06] rangle : but how is index at 1122
[2017-04-15 23:04:08] shiroe : 1125 really
[2017-04-15 23:04:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 45000 @ 1136.5
[2017-04-15 23:04:13] JerryBuss : /price
[2017-04-15 23:04:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1165.00 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1191.40 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1187.50 (0.00%) itBit : 1170.17 (0.00%) Kraken : 1170.06 (0.00%) GDAX : 1082.02 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-04-15 23:04:26] robit : wtf just happened my bids got cancelled
[2017-04-15 23:04:28] JerryBuss : gdax went crazy
[2017-04-15 23:04:29] rangle : ummmm
[2017-04-15 23:04:30] rapidgains : coinbsae hit 950
[2017-04-15 23:04:31] rapidgains : wow
[2017-04-15 23:04:33] InvalidUser : That must be a mistake
[2017-04-15 23:04:34] 123abc : rofl
[2017-04-15 23:04:34] rapidgains : coinbasse*
[2017-04-15 23:04:37] shiroe : :D as i said, 1125. lol
[2017-04-15 23:04:39] robit : i had bids at 1150 and my orders got cancelle
[2017-04-15 23:04:47] plappa : wtf happened
[2017-04-15 23:04:58] rapidgains : no
[2017-04-15 23:04:59] stoky : Liquidated long on XBTUSD: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 EPIC REKT ? ? ? wow .... bloody
[2017-04-15 23:05:03] rapidgains : it hit $24
[2017-04-15 23:05:04] stf28 : there was a big bug or something
[2017-04-15 23:05:26] rangle : theres supposed to be a safeguard to stop liquidations on a reading like that, no?
[2017-04-15 23:05:30] stf28 : coinbase 0,06
[2017-04-15 23:05:35] mark121 : wtf was that
[2017-04-15 23:05:36] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-15 23:05:38] 123abc : damn i missed the dip
[2017-04-15 23:05:52] mark121 : my chart says it went to crazy low
[2017-04-15 23:05:54] cg : admin here?
[2017-04-15 23:06:01] sleger : index was VERY low
[2017-04-15 23:06:07] mark121 : 878
[2017-04-15 23:06:08] zqooN : lol at btc
[2017-04-15 23:06:09] 123abc : BTC dumping
[2017-04-15 23:06:10] shiroe : someone dropped a million!
[2017-04-15 23:06:11] 123abc : close those longs
[2017-04-15 23:06:13] BitMEX_Greg : cg: Hi
[2017-04-15 23:06:20] level2 : 888 index
[2017-04-15 23:06:31] mark121 : yep
[2017-04-15 23:06:33] Shoba : too bad no deleverage
[2017-04-15 23:06:34] meyerbriggs : What the FUCK
[2017-04-15 23:06:39] flux : wtf
[2017-04-15 23:06:51] 123abc : 1125 hit
[2017-04-15 23:06:56] stf28 : orders wer messed up
[2017-04-15 23:07:06] Poo : Wtf happened
[2017-04-15 23:07:09] Poo : omg
[2017-04-15 23:07:12] frog : looks like GDAX had error reporting trade at 0
[2017-04-15 23:07:16] sleger : .BXBT 888.48
[2017-04-15 23:07:19] sleger : good joib
[2017-04-15 23:07:21] sleger : job
[2017-04-15 23:07:28] shiroe : /price
[2017-04-15 23:07:29] 123abc : damn missed out on a good long entry
[2017-04-15 23:07:30] cg : yes: looks like GDAX had error reporting trade at 0
[2017-04-15 23:07:32] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1169.79 (0.41%) Bitfinex : 1192.50 (0.09%) The Woodchipper : 1186.02 (-0.12%) itBit : 1172.33 (0.18%) Kraken : 1170.06 (0.00%) GDAX : 1155.03 (6.75%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-15 23:07:32] zqooN : someone killed the Easter Bunny
[2017-04-15 23:07:40] sleger : who said for days ago to use a median instead of a stupid average ?
[2017-04-15 23:07:41] shiroe : short?
[2017-04-15 23:08:10] cg : this got to be a joke
[2017-04-15 23:08:12] 123abc : buy the dip now
[2017-04-15 23:08:15] robit : BitMEX_Greg: Hi, i had some orders at around 1150 that were cancelled instead of filled on xbtm17
[2017-04-15 23:08:27] Shoba : what was lowest price anyone got liquidated?
[2017-04-15 23:08:33] rapidgains : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/coinbase/btcusd
[2017-04-15 23:08:34] rapidgains : 6 cents!
[2017-04-15 23:08:39] sleger : Shoba: scroll up lazy
[2017-04-15 23:08:51] shiroe : short till 6 cents. hahaha
[2017-04-15 23:08:54] L9 : NEVER seen suvh blck swan like this. Closed my long just before this
[2017-04-15 23:08:57] cg : BitMEX_Greg: are you going to roll back trades? this was clearly a bug in your indexing mechanism
[2017-04-15 23:09:03] sleger : no it wasnt
[2017-04-15 23:09:08] sleger : it was a bug in coinbase
[2017-04-15 23:09:11] Mazorus : 890
[2017-04-15 23:09:11] BitMEX_Greg : cg: Checking
[2017-04-15 23:09:12] Shoba : sleger: i saw 888 index price, but i wasn't sure if that means that hit all liquidations - there seems to be a lag on here sometimes
[2017-04-15 23:09:13] sleger : too bad for you
[2017-04-15 23:09:24] sleger : Shoba: you can read REKT posts
[2017-04-15 23:09:37] shiroe : damn.
[2017-04-15 23:09:38] robit : liquidation around 950 and i wasnt liquidated
[2017-04-15 23:09:45] Mazorus : Totaly manipulated
[2017-04-15 23:09:52] robit : i had bids auto cancelled tho instead of filled
[2017-04-15 23:09:53] sleger : liquidation is not based on index its based on mark
[2017-04-15 23:09:57] sleger : and not mark121
[2017-04-15 23:09:59] sleger : mark price
[2017-04-15 23:10:03] mark121 : Lol :)
[2017-04-15 23:10:04] 123abc : only 6,400,000 contracts open on swap now lol
[2017-04-15 23:10:07] cg : sleger: so you want to trade on a CFG platform where a random exchange api ticker bug that reports 0 can instantly rekt your position? WTF what a joke
[2017-04-15 23:10:12] cg : *CFD
[2017-04-15 23:10:19] sleger : CFD?
[2017-04-15 23:10:25] sleger : this is not a cfd platform
[2017-04-15 23:10:30] sleger : lol
[2017-04-15 23:10:31] frog : looks like GDAX offline now
[2017-04-15 23:11:00] shiroe : so the one who placed a coinbase buy at 1 buck is now a millionaire. lol
[2017-04-15 23:11:15] sleger : shiroe: why ? what size was filled at 1$ ?
[2017-04-15 23:11:24] MONEROBAKER : That's it had it with this site
[2017-04-15 23:11:39] rangle : look at the REKTs, only XBTUSD got rekts, XBTUSD does use index pricing for liquidation
[2017-04-15 23:11:41] 123abc : amateur hour on here
[2017-04-15 23:11:42] flux : coinbase is a joke
[2017-04-15 23:11:47] mark121 : its frustrating because the trading never came close to the mark price
[2017-04-15 23:11:48] MONEROBAKER : Put in a marlet sell at 1887
[2017-04-15 23:11:57] MONEROBAKER : Got filled at 1130
[2017-04-15 23:11:57] 123abc : someone market dumped a ton of LTC just now
[2017-04-15 23:12:02] MONEROBAKER : Thanks
[2017-04-15 23:12:05] shiroe : sleger: i have no idea too. haha
[2017-04-15 23:12:08] knop : what happened?
[2017-04-15 23:12:12] knop : what was lowest trade?
[2017-04-15 23:12:18] Puffle-Razor-Spark : what happened here? can see a spike down to 1125 on XBTUSD but not under 1k ?
[2017-04-15 23:12:19] 123abc : i'm guessing LTC addition went bad and fucked up BTC price
[2017-04-15 23:12:19] Mazorus : 890
[2017-04-15 23:12:25] sleger : shiroe: well so why would anyone be a millionaire if you have no idea
[2017-04-15 23:12:26] cg : it was a bug coinbase reporting 0
[2017-04-15 23:12:27] MONEROBAKER : I mean 1187 and got filled at 1130
[2017-04-15 23:12:35] Armis : I make short but looks like to late :D lol I get position from 62
[2017-04-15 23:12:40] Shoba : knop: lowest trade around 1125 or so
[2017-04-15 23:12:50] plappa : i could've market closed at 600 percent.. why am i so stupid
[2017-04-15 23:13:05] sleger : cg: yes so no rollback since no bug here
[2017-04-15 23:13:10] 123abc : plappa: greedy
[2017-04-15 23:13:17] rangle : you wouldnt have gotten filled where you expect plappa
[2017-04-15 23:13:22] plappa : oh ok
[2017-04-15 23:13:25] plappa : xD
[2017-04-15 23:13:28] cg : sleger: are you an admin here?
[2017-04-15 23:13:28] plappa : i was like wtf
[2017-04-15 23:13:33] sleger : cg: no
[2017-04-15 23:13:50] sleger : cg: admins start with BitMEX
[2017-04-15 23:14:22] XBT_IHCT : hey wtf just happened?
[2017-04-15 23:14:25] Mazorus : Why people not bullish on btc ?!
[2017-04-15 23:14:28] robit : Anyone else have bids auto cancelled on xbtm17?
[2017-04-15 23:14:37] Shoba : robit: no
[2017-04-15 23:14:42] justinlooking : rekt
[2017-04-15 23:14:43] shiroe : sleger: assuming* if that chart is true and someone sold at 6cents. Those who caught below 100 has x10 more capital.
[2017-04-15 23:14:54] robit : I had some bids at 1150 and there were fills in the 1140s but my bids were cancelled instead of filled
[2017-04-15 23:15:04] Shoba : robit: if you had any 'close on trigger" trades or longs somewhere else that could be why
[2017-04-15 23:15:05] 123abc : coinbase isnt GDAX though
[2017-04-15 23:15:12] sleger : shiroe: well i know that, that's why i asked for how much was filled below 1$
[2017-04-15 23:15:22] XBT_IHCT : is this just because gdax is offline for maintenance?
[2017-04-15 23:15:25] Sultan Pepper : Bitmex sleger: how long does the ltc weekly contract last?
[2017-04-15 23:15:39] robit : Shoba: i have an open long but my liquidation is way below. i was just trying to add to my long. no trigger orders
[2017-04-15 23:16:02] Pablo : According to Bitmex the reason liquidations are based on mark is to avoid this kind of thing. Just had liquidated before I could even hit the keyboard.
[2017-04-15 23:16:22] mark121 : sleger: this is one of those if u got nothing good to add, add nothing nothing at all - dont be an uncle tom
[2017-04-15 23:16:33] datboiyuan : LTC almost doubled on GDAX
[2017-04-15 23:16:35] cg : exactly. why use a mark price on the perp swap if its buggy like this
[2017-04-15 23:16:38] sleger : mark121: nobody asked your opinion faker
[2017-04-15 23:16:48] justinlooking : i accidentally airplane mode'd and missed it all. comical. more beer
[2017-04-15 23:16:52] sleger : cg: mark price is not based on index
[2017-04-15 23:17:07] mark121 : sleger: no one asked ur opinion so shut it u scab
[2017-04-15 23:17:20] mark121 : u like a cold sore
[2017-04-15 23:17:33] mark121 : on picture day
[2017-04-15 23:17:41] MONEROBAKER : Cashing out. Bye bye bitmex
[2017-04-15 23:17:48] XBT_IHCT : lol are you two still at it? @mark121 @sleger
[2017-04-15 23:17:51] BitMEX_Sam : @everyone GDAX sent several prints at $0.06. Please hold, we are assessing the situation
[2017-04-15 23:17:51] sleger : mark121: how did your bridgewater internship application turn out ? oh wait, we know....
[2017-04-15 23:17:58] stf28 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks
[2017-04-15 23:17:59] mark121 : i thought it was done
[2017-04-15 23:18:01] datboiyuan : GDAX is the coinable exchange
[2017-04-15 23:18:04] mark121 : he got raped th e other day
[2017-04-15 23:18:13] sleger : lol, no
[2017-04-15 23:18:28] datboiyuan : *coinbase
[2017-04-15 23:18:38] Shoba : i was just thinking earlier about the possibility of limiting exchanges to something like $100 or $200 spread from the average of the others in case something goes horribly wrong on one
[2017-04-15 23:18:49] sleger : "Please hold" <= hold what ?
[2017-04-15 23:19:00] Shoba : though i was thinking of it in the context of bitfinex ****ing up moreso than the other way
[2017-04-15 23:19:07] Pablo : Liquidated $82K long... in less than a second...
[2017-04-15 23:19:12] Shoba : or an exchange hack, etc.
[2017-04-15 23:19:25] 123abc : sleger: hold onto your position
[2017-04-15 23:19:31] rapidgains : /rekt
[2017-04-15 23:19:31] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 16 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 184359 @ 1156.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 1 day, 16 hours, 47 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 220000 @ 1193.2 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 2 days, 5 hours, 51 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150000 @ 1156.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-15 23:19:32] justinlooking : sleger: hodl for no backsies official statement ofc
[2017-04-15 23:19:42] 123abc : Pablo: shit happens
[2017-04-15 23:19:52] sleger : i dont understand what hold means ?
[2017-04-15 23:19:58] L9 : Guys use stop loss or isolated margin
[2017-04-15 23:20:03] sleger : they could pause the market if they wanted to
[2017-04-15 23:20:05] mark121 : sleger: loloL! u dont kno what hold means
[2017-04-15 23:20:07] mark121 : faker!!!
[2017-04-15 23:20:34] cg : L9: stop loss does not help you when a buggy index price jumps to 0 and you get insta liquidated
[2017-04-15 23:20:44] mark121 : ??
[2017-04-15 23:20:49] mark121 : sry meant to be up arrows
[2017-04-15 23:20:53] mark121 : i agree with cg
[2017-04-15 23:20:54] BitMEX_Arthur : Hi guys we are looking into what happened
[2017-04-15 23:21:02] mark121 : BitMEX_Arthur: ty
[2017-04-15 23:21:18] 123abc : get Brian Armstrong on the phone
[2017-04-15 23:21:23] 123abc : ask him wtf happen on his exchange
[2017-04-15 23:21:23] justinlooking : pmsl
[2017-04-15 23:21:32] 123abc : fucking n00b
[2017-04-15 23:21:34] stf28 : BitMEX_Arthur: there are orders executed 2 min after they got filled comparing trade/order history
[2017-04-15 23:21:38] plappa : brian doesn't give a furk
[2017-04-15 23:21:51] L9 : Do I understand correct liquidated positions would be refunded?
[2017-04-15 23:22:03] 123abc : Brian Armstrong too busy trying to figure out how to add LTC to coinbase
[2017-04-15 23:22:07] plappa : LOL
[2017-04-15 23:22:11] 123abc : that he fucked up BTC
[2017-04-15 23:22:17] cg : L9: lets hope so :\
[2017-04-15 23:22:38] sleger : what is there to assess ? bitmex engine worked as expected, which is the only case for rollbacks, you made that very clear since the beginning no ? @BitMEX_Arthur
[2017-04-15 23:22:48] Mazorus : Money back !
[2017-04-15 23:22:57] sleger : I keep the money !
[2017-04-15 23:23:00] cg : the insurance fund is rather stacked
[2017-04-15 23:23:00] mark121 : sleger: no wonder no1 likes u
[2017-04-15 23:23:19] Shoba : people are going to be pissed off either way
[2017-04-15 23:23:19] sleger : mark121: you're the only one because i exposed you as a fraud
[2017-04-15 23:23:33] mark121 : sorry sleger, in the real world, a screenshot means nothing
[2017-04-15 23:23:36] stf28 : is that normal working that stop got triggered before upper order executing ?
[2017-04-15 23:23:36] 123abc : how many were rekt. the rektbot couldnt handle all the rekts
[2017-04-15 23:23:58] L9 : Guys, use isolated margin, rekt will save your money
[2017-04-15 23:24:02] justinlooking : oh i assmed rekt got every1
[2017-04-15 23:24:17] sleger : 123abc: how do you know that ?
[2017-04-15 23:24:21] 123abc : mark price went so low and rekt bot showed like 10 rekts
[2017-04-15 23:24:25] 123abc : there had to be more
[2017-04-15 23:24:35] laisee : was mark price recalculated during the fake dip?
[2017-04-15 23:25:10] meyerbriggs : Yeah what the hell, please figure this out. That was absolutely ridiculous. I'm going to stop using this exchange if this isn't made right
[2017-04-15 23:25:31] jayesh : REMOVE GDAX - THE SHIT EXCHANGE
[2017-04-15 23:25:52] Shoba : problem is there basically are no good exchanges
[2017-04-15 23:26:27] Sultan Pepper : How was my 1125 filled on june?
[2017-04-15 23:26:36] stf28 : mark price should obvisouly be recalculated for the trades during this event as it clearly didn't work as expected
[2017-04-15 23:26:54] Pablo : Not even close.
[2017-04-15 23:26:57] Chade : as long as you don't take my profits
[2017-04-15 23:27:00] stf28 : or btc is dead cause coinbase really sold bitcoin at 0.06$
[2017-04-15 23:27:01] Chade : do what u want
[2017-04-15 23:27:02] 123abc : Sultan Pepper: stop losses got triggered the whole way down
[2017-04-15 23:27:06] rapidgains : lol guys, this happens all the time
[2017-04-15 23:27:15] datboiyuan : June future
[2017-04-15 23:27:16] sleger : and trades are never rollbacked
[2017-04-15 23:27:18] robit : Sultan Pepper: You got a fill at 1125? I had orders at 1150 that didnt get filled...wtf
[2017-04-15 23:27:34] Pablo : How about software that excludes obviously bad data?
[2017-04-15 23:27:38] Sultan Pepper : I dont see it in the books though
[2017-04-15 23:27:42] laisee : i had buy @1111 not filled
[2017-04-15 23:27:51] rangle : i thought they did that already for bad prints
[2017-04-15 23:28:12] rapidgains : you need to be able to endure at least a $100 drop at all times
[2017-04-15 23:28:18] Sultan Pepper : i see the dip on 15m but i didnt see it on 4h. It's still not in the books
[2017-04-15 23:28:19] cg : well, there should be more fail saves. For example if one exchange differs from the others more than 50%
[2017-04-15 23:28:22] InvalidUser : I wonder what the funding rate will be in 4 hrs
[2017-04-15 23:28:24] sleger : guys, understand how mark price works
[2017-04-15 23:28:26] rapidgains : if you aren't able to, sooner or late you will get rekt
[2017-04-15 23:28:27] sleger : before you talk
[2017-04-15 23:28:29] Pablo : What happens if an exchange reports 10,000? Are all shorts liquidated?
[2017-04-15 23:28:34] Shoba : laisee: market didn't drop quite that far
[2017-04-15 23:28:47] stf28 : rapidgains: 100$ is ok, but mark price went 8xx
[2017-04-15 23:28:47] L9 : This is called "black swan"
[2017-04-15 23:28:49] sleger : index price != mark price
[2017-04-15 23:29:08] laisee : Shoba: thanks, was not around during the the :Big Dip
[2017-04-15 23:29:19] Sultan Pepper : Found it
[2017-04-15 23:29:20] datboiyuan : @robit That's crazy. Should have been filled for sure
[2017-04-15 23:29:33] laisee : was mark price recalculated? if not, how did the REKTs happen
[2017-04-15 23:29:40] Pablo : dropped 1/4 value instantly when one exchange reported 0.
[2017-04-15 23:29:49] sleger : for swap yes
[2017-04-15 23:29:49] rangle : Swap uses index price for REKT
[2017-04-15 23:30:00] cg : mark price went below 900 because gdax reported essentially 0
[2017-04-15 23:30:08] sleger : for swap
[2017-04-15 23:30:13] cg : yes
[2017-04-15 23:30:24] sleger : no i am not asking i am telling
[2017-04-15 23:30:27] Pablo : No that many sellers... who got the money?
[2017-04-15 23:30:28] laisee : ok. still a bit forked up
[2017-04-15 23:30:32] robit : datboiyuan: Yeah. If I look in the order history it shows they were cancelled when the glitch happened. i didnt cancel them though llol it was auto canceled or something
[2017-04-15 23:30:33] shiroe : so if coinbase dropped to 6 cents, it means someone dumped. Just like in 2014 when btc price went from 800 to 150 coz 15000 btc is sold from stolen site.
[2017-04-15 23:30:35] rapidgains : 800 wow lol
[2017-04-15 23:31:01] Sultan Pepper : Low here was 1115?
[2017-04-15 23:31:07] rangle : those are some stupid criminals
[2017-04-15 23:31:09] Chade : wasn't the volume of the dump like 140 btc?
[2017-04-15 23:31:14] rapidgains : suggestion would be to change weight of each exchange if they exceed the average of the others
[2017-04-15 23:31:16] Pablo : $880 I think
[2017-04-15 23:31:22] L9 : shiroe: I think it is just a bug
[2017-04-15 23:31:23] Chade : gdax just an empty orderbook
[2017-04-15 23:31:34] Sultan Pepper : I didnt get a 1077 filled
[2017-04-15 23:31:46] meyerbriggs : BITMEX - you need to roll those trades back. If this doesn't get fixed I'm gone for good
[2017-04-15 23:31:59] Pablo : Agreed
[2017-04-15 23:32:00] Chade : heeeelll no
[2017-04-15 23:32:02] sleger : Sultan Pepper: i got 1150 though XBTUSD 2569 2569 0 1150.2
[2017-04-15 23:32:02] MONEROBAKER : Also said I got filled at 1187 first. Then got logged out and when ai log in again my short was filled at 1131.
[2017-04-15 23:32:03] rapidgains : gdax went down for maintenance, who knows how it got fucked
[2017-04-15 23:32:08] MONEROBAKER : Fck this
[2017-04-15 23:32:09] sleger : meyerbriggs: bye
[2017-04-15 23:32:21] Sultan Pepper : sleger: yeah i got my 1125
[2017-04-15 23:32:25] Jsgh : Gdax went down for maintenance. Shouldn't that have been accounted for?
[2017-04-15 23:32:30] shiroe : L9: hopefully.
[2017-04-15 23:33:05] stf28 : MONEROBAKER: take screenshots
[2017-04-15 23:33:07] 123abc : why are people dumping on swap $5 below mark price
[2017-04-15 23:33:09] stf28 : when this happens
[2017-04-15 23:33:32] shiroe : good short. 1 week chart says we can hit 1k again.
[2017-04-15 23:33:42] 123abc : 1 week MACD waiting to break down
[2017-04-15 23:33:48] 123abc : epic dump incoming eventually
[2017-04-15 23:33:53] InvalidUser : WTF
[2017-04-15 23:34:06] rangle : o.o
[2017-04-15 23:34:15] shiroe : right on. :D
[2017-04-15 23:34:27] L9 : The problem is not in BitMex, trading is a high-risk business, never risk more than 1-5% of your depo
[2017-04-15 23:34:34] InvalidUser : My Leverage just jumped to 100x and back down
[2017-04-15 23:35:00] InvalidUser : Time-warp enabled
[2017-04-15 23:35:12] BitMEX_Arthur : Guys we are still investigating; however, we will not be rolling back any trades.
[2017-04-15 23:35:18] shiroe : 1k x 2 eth buy in 6 hours, 1k btc buy on dash. someone wants out of btc.
[2017-04-15 23:35:21] level2 : uhhh
[2017-04-15 23:35:22] Chade : an asteroid just droped on my pc and killed it while I was 100x short at 120
[2017-04-15 23:35:36] shiroe : it is a sign. :D
[2017-04-15 23:36:09] shiroe : make it 5k eth buy within 6 hours. lol
[2017-04-15 23:36:27] 123abc : BitMEX_Arthur: how many people got margin called in the error?
[2017-04-15 23:36:32] shiroe : why not buy LTC you piece of shiet.
[2017-04-15 23:36:44] Shoba : 123abc: 8
[2017-04-15 23:36:48] datboiyuan : BitMEX_Arthur: Why not? Didn't you roll back trades with LTC?
[2017-04-15 23:36:55] 123abc : Shoba: that's hard to believe
[2017-04-15 23:37:01] cg : what a joke this is
[2017-04-15 23:37:05] MikeHunt : who got rekt?
[2017-04-15 23:37:09] BitMEX_Sam : datboiyuan: This is a different situation; the error was on GDAX's side in this case, not on ours. That said, we are looking into what will be fair for our customers
[2017-04-15 23:37:34] rangle : i thought there was a rule about erroneous exchange prices
[2017-04-15 23:37:40] datboiyuan : I'm short so I didn't lose, it's just concerning for the future
[2017-04-15 23:37:47] rangle : granted, it was a real reported price from GDAX
[2017-04-15 23:37:50] 123abc : rangle: if exchange stops reporting price it gets dropped after 15 minutes
[2017-04-15 23:38:02] BitMEX_Sam : There is a rule about *missing* exchange prices, but not erroneous ones.
[2017-04-15 23:38:07] datboiyuan : Also 1broker is rolling back trades
[2017-04-15 23:38:09] rangle : i see, thanks
[2017-04-15 23:38:18] cg : so I can make a deal with some random exchange on your index price list to make a false report in order to liquidate positions as I please? wow
[2017-04-15 23:38:34] Shoba : datboiyuan: someone no one has ever heard of is doing something? good to know
[2017-04-15 23:38:35] meyerbriggs : If trades are not rolling back I'm gone & spreading the word not to trade here. It's just not safe. Absolutely absurd. Even if it wasn't your error there need to be safeguards from this. What a joke, I've been a champion for you guys for a while
[2017-04-15 23:38:46] cg : agreed
[2017-04-15 23:38:54] MikeHunt : +1
[2017-04-15 23:39:01] shillosopher : +1
[2017-04-15 23:39:02] datboiyuan : Shoba: Plenty of people use 1broker dude
[2017-04-15 23:39:06] Chade : -1
[2017-04-15 23:39:07] meyerbriggs : cant vouch for this place anymore at all, disgusted
[2017-04-15 23:39:11] 123abc : that's the price of trading on high leverage
[2017-04-15 23:39:18] sleger : told you "[2017-04-15 23:22:38] sleger : what is there to assess ? bitmex engine worked as expected, which is the only case for rollbacks"
[2017-04-15 23:39:21] 123abc : go somewhere else and trade on 100x then
[2017-04-15 23:39:22] mark121 : imagine a person who had no position yet right off the bat sides with the exchange , u dont need to
[2017-04-15 23:39:23] Davyd05 : it happened though, no doubt they should have a look at making a mechanism that can detect or alert them to a deviation
[2017-04-15 23:39:23] mark121 : its sleger
[2017-04-15 23:39:24] BitMEX_Sam : meyerbriggs: As I said before we intend to treat our customers right here. We will not be clawing back profits in this case but we are looking into what we can do to make this right for those who were liquidated.
[2017-04-15 23:39:44] rapidgains : poor bitmex
[2017-04-15 23:39:47] datboiyuan : BitMEX_Sam: That sounds fair
[2017-04-15 23:40:00] sleger : mark121: pathetic
[2017-04-15 23:40:01] mark121 : thats all u can ask for
[2017-04-15 23:40:03] Davyd05 : That sounds super fair, but should still look into a mechanism that might detect when other markets go dead,
[2017-04-15 23:40:05] 123abc : i'm guessing so many people were involved in this mess it isnt worth the headache to rollback trades
[2017-04-15 23:40:07] rapidgains : everyone was busting their balls to add exchanges to index
[2017-04-15 23:40:09] BitMEX_Sam : Davyd05: Agreed
[2017-04-15 23:40:10] rapidgains : then this happens lol
[2017-04-15 23:40:10] Chade : y'all gonna get some ripple for your losses
[2017-04-15 23:40:12] rangle : make GDAX pay them back lol
[2017-04-15 23:40:30] cryptobull : Sounds good Sam ?
[2017-04-15 23:40:38] MikeHunt : perhaps just focus on making sure it dont happen again
[2017-04-15 23:40:51] MikeHunt : maybe some sort of dampener on price to prevent wild spikes
[2017-04-15 23:40:52] Aarondaebak : I was liquidiated about 1 minute after I placed the trade when the bitmex price dropped 300 points because of the bug. since bitmex kept my deposit I think its fair I got it back
[2017-04-15 23:41:01] shiroe : it will happen again, time and again. when satoshi sold his million coins :D
[2017-04-15 23:41:13] cg : BitMEX_Sam: let's see what you come up with, but there should definitely be a fail save in the index calculation if exchange prices differ more than 50% for example
[2017-04-15 23:41:39] BitMEX_Sam : cg: We have such failsafes for the index itself but not for individual constituents; we will be implementing additional failsafes in the very near future to guard against this.
[2017-04-15 23:41:45] shiroe : cg: +1. 50% in just a minute.
[2017-04-15 23:41:47] JasonLi : BitMEX_Sam: Why my position is sop lossed at 1065.3 at today 7:02:57
[2017-04-15 23:41:53] JasonLi : WTH is going on？
[2017-04-15 23:42:02] BitMEX_Sam : JasonLi: See above; we received an incorrect index price from GDAX
[2017-04-15 23:42:03] meyerbriggs : I know you have been great in the past. I'll wait and see what you come up with & give you the benefit of the doubt but I can't believe my position went from profit to liquidated for absolutely no reason, it's making trading here feel too dangerous to be worth it
[2017-04-15 23:42:35] MikeHunt : i was short at time but this could have easily gone the other way
[2017-04-15 23:42:39] zqooN : sleger gave a solution a few days back... median vs average
[2017-04-15 23:42:40] JasonLi : BitMEX_Sam: What
[2017-04-15 23:42:44] JasonLi : What will you do?
[2017-04-15 23:42:45] shiroe : it is dangerous! so never use cross levarage.
[2017-04-15 23:43:11] stf28 : gdax margin halted
[2017-04-15 23:43:20] BitMEX_Sam : JasonLi: We are still assessing, please wait while we dig through the history.
[2017-04-15 23:43:33] stf28 : "major outage" does mean trades were actually executed at this price there?
[2017-04-15 23:44:28] robit : BitMEX_Sam: I know the larger issue was with the swap but I had bids on xbtm17 auto cancelled. I had bids at around 1150 that didn't get filled even though there were fills in the 1120s. I am 99% sure I didn't cancel those bids myself. Can you look into that as well. It looked like they were auto cancelled when the temporary drop happoened
[2017-04-15 23:44:40] frog : most likely actually executed
[2017-04-15 23:44:46] BitMEX_Sam : robit: You may have had `Close` stop losses set
[2017-04-15 23:45:06] justinlooking : robit did u have leveraged long pos in xbtusd at same time?
[2017-04-15 23:45:09] frog : maybe when switching databases
[2017-04-15 23:45:37] robit : they were limit orders with no stop losses set. I had a leveraged long open on the june futures not the swap
[2017-04-15 23:45:44] JasonLi : BitMEX_Sam: When will you guys come up with a valid solution? I feel like really bad, to be honest.
[2017-04-15 23:46:04] BitMEX_Sam : JasonLi: I understand your frustration. Please give us some time, this event was only minutes ago.
[2017-04-15 23:46:05] mark121 : zqooN: so does that mean he recognized the issue until taking the opposite positive today lol
[2017-04-15 23:46:15] mark121 : position*
[2017-04-15 23:46:31] zqooN : mark121: nope two different things
[2017-04-15 23:46:51] mark121 : but u brought it up sa a solution
[2017-04-15 23:46:54] mark121 : so not really
[2017-04-15 23:47:25] jij : sounds like shorts and longs got fucked
[2017-04-15 23:47:35] flux : BitMEX_Sam: Do yourself a favor and use the btce for price indexing, they are the only exchange that is reliable
[2017-04-15 23:47:45] zqooN : mark121: it is a solution to prevent these things. But as it is not prevented and not in the T&C you can't clawback profits made
[2017-04-15 23:47:47] datboiyuan : Guys Bitmex is letting everyone keep their profit and filled orders, and is making things right for people who lost. What are you complaining about?
[2017-04-15 23:48:12] rapidgains : adding more exchanges wont fix the underlying problem here
[2017-04-15 23:48:16] datboiyuan : Guys Bitmex is letting everyone keep their profit and filled orders, and is making things right for people who lost. What are you complaining about?
[2017-04-15 23:48:20] cg : We don't know what they actually gonna do so lets wait..
[2017-04-15 23:48:25] rapidgains : that would only average the average price when it works
[2017-04-15 23:48:40] zqooN : datboiyuan: +1
[2017-04-15 23:48:48] Farzad : hey guys, what exactly happened ?
[2017-04-15 23:48:52] Farzad : I was afk
[2017-04-15 23:48:57] mark121 : zqooN: oh ok so the answe to my Q is yes he did lol
[2017-04-15 23:49:00] frog : they cant clawback profits but have discretion to compensate peoples losses
[2017-04-15 23:49:00] Farzad : did the price fall ? or only index ?
[2017-04-15 23:49:06] rapidgains : index
[2017-04-15 23:49:08] JasonLi : I want my long position back
[2017-04-15 23:49:15] rapidgains : price fell but only to an extent
[2017-04-15 23:49:21] jij : recked
[2017-04-15 23:49:22] InvalidUser : Gdax spammed the wrong price during maintenance
[2017-04-15 23:49:55] zqooN : mark121: I still disagree with you. But I think it is more about the beef betwen you guys
[2017-04-15 23:50:56] j8 : GDAX at 6 cents and i missed the fun :(
[2017-04-15 23:51:15] mark121 : zqooN: no its about being a miserable ass when u dont need to be
[2017-04-15 23:51:40] mark121 : zqooN: thats all (not u) lol
[2017-04-15 23:51:44] shillosopher : if gdax is in maintenance, why is the price still used to calculated the index? seems 100% bitmex fault, no?
[2017-04-15 23:52:02] flux : why not use bitcoin average for index?
[2017-04-15 23:52:13] frog : shillosopher: went maintenance after mistake but is still tading
[2017-04-15 23:52:25] j8 : they were down for a couple hours, shouldn't be using the very first tick once they're up
[2017-04-15 23:52:28] 123abc : shillosopher: good point
[2017-04-15 23:52:33] cg : they do, the average went below 900 which caused auto-liquidations
[2017-04-15 23:52:47] 123abc : shillosopher: maybe gdax came back online and later reported bad price
[2017-04-15 23:53:40] shillosopher : hmm I dunno exactly when gdax was under maintenance
[2017-04-15 23:53:46] stf28 : shillosopher: apparently gdax maintenance was scheduled and all orders canceled before the "drop" https://status.gdax.com/
[2017-04-15 23:54:03] j8 : but the lowest liquidation was 1142.1?
[2017-04-15 23:54:07] BitMEX_Sam : We will be temporarily removing GDAX from the `.BXBT` index at 00:10 UTC today.
[2017-04-15 23:54:16] datboiyuan : I think rolling back orders and clawing back profits would be fair. I don't want to benefit from something like this if it means others lose because one day I'll be on the other side. Bitmex is going above rolling back orders so I really don't understand those who are complaining.
[2017-04-15 23:54:29] shillosopher : stf28: so scheduled maintenance for gdax and bitmex still uses it to calculate index???
[2017-04-15 23:54:32] BitMEX_Sam : The impact on the index will be roughly +$1.30.
[2017-04-15 23:54:38] stf28 : apparently
[2017-04-15 23:54:57] stf28 : it seems that this maintenance and outage was scheduled
[2017-04-15 23:55:02] stf28 : https://status.gdax.com/
[2017-04-15 23:55:15] BitMEX_Sam : shillosopher: We automatically removed them, as expected; however when coming back online, they printed bad trades
[2017-04-15 23:55:31] BitMEX_Sam : We did not expect bad data and thus the index temporarily moved much lower than it normally would have.
[2017-04-15 23:55:33] shillosopher : BitMEX_Sam: should have a buffer
[2017-04-15 23:55:36] shillosopher : time buffer
[2017-04-15 23:55:41] jeisonb : BitMEX_Sam: i've lost all my xbt. Bitmex must give them back
[2017-04-15 23:55:48] zqooN : mark121: just to be clear, 1 this could be prevented by median vs average (but that is not implemented yet) a valid solution, 2 Bitmex can't clawback as it is not in their rules (as of yet), they admitted to look for a solution for the liqs but said themselves they can't clawback nor they shouldn't. So 3 Bitmex should make a mechanism it wont happen again (like median) and as goodwill for their customers rebalnce the liqs (but that will cost them some)
[2017-04-15 23:56:00] BitMEX_Sam : shillosopher: We will be implementing more sanity checks on this. In the meantime we will be removing GDAX temporarily.
[2017-04-15 23:56:12] Farzad : datboiyuan: I will not accept any rollback of executed trades. my bot has hedged positions. bitmex cant roll back one side of my hedge !
[2017-04-15 23:56:14] BitMEX_Sam : We also will be working with our customers to make this right.
[2017-04-15 23:56:17] mark121 : zqooN: how can u disagree, if one is offering a solution for someting, he inherently recognizes a potential problem or issue
[2017-04-15 23:56:25] flux : fuck gdax irs honey pot
[2017-04-15 23:56:30] flux : fuk
[2017-04-15 23:56:33] mark121 : zqooN: and i didnt say anything about profits clawedback
[2017-04-15 23:56:55] mark121 : if anything $ invested, or principal is all u can hope fo r
[2017-04-15 23:57:04] Farzad : use insurance fund to compensate traders who lost unfairly
[2017-04-15 23:57:05] BitMEX_Sam : To be clear, the action is: 1. GDAX removal from `.BXBT` at 00:10 UTC. 2. No rollback of trades. 3. We will be working on loss reimbursements shortly.
[2017-04-15 23:57:23] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks ! it is great.
[2017-04-15 23:57:40] MikeHunt : all heil bitmex
[2017-04-15 23:57:40] meyerbriggs : Thank you Sam I appreciate it.
[2017-04-15 23:57:44] stf28 : nice
[2017-04-15 23:59:26] BitMEX_Sam : For reference, https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/index/.BXBT reflects what the `.BXBT` price will be after GDAX removal.
[2017-04-15 23:59:40] aguia7 : One more reason, not to operate using too much margin, and a lot of leverage.
[2017-04-15 23:59:53] zqooN : mark121: if you recognize a problem in the process of a mechanism and the mechanism works as it should it will make that problem happen and thus works perfectly
[2017-04-16 00:00:00] zqooN : im out the Misses needs me
[2017-04-16 00:01:20] mark121 : wtf
[2017-04-16 00:02:09] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: there are sanity checks on the mark price? index printed 888.48 but no one was liquidated below 1100 even