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[2017-04-15 07:13:52] laisee : Ltc is just test bed for segwit security holes
[2017-04-15 07:14:20] laisee : Ok since ltc has no real use anyways
[2017-04-15 07:16:07] laisee : Sorry for ltc holders - their money is fundig test bed for btc exoeriments
[2017-04-15 07:16:48] 123abc : LTC went up 300% bagholders fault for being greedy hoping for $15-$20
[2017-04-15 07:17:38] 123abc : cant be that much dumb money that would make new money start market buying LTC like crazy
[2017-04-15 07:18:00] Dynamix : 123abc: Just buy some EDG and hodl till June / july
[2017-04-15 07:18:03] 123abc : shit was going down for 2 years and after it goes up 300% you start buying tens of thousands of BTC worth
[2017-04-15 07:18:06] Dynamix : Then thank me later :)
[2017-04-15 07:19:29] 123abc : Edgless casino, a decentralized online gaming platform based on Ethereum smart contracts
[2017-04-15 07:20:23] alcapone@ : KyllingLolsson: are u on
[2017-04-15 07:20:25] laisee : It's pump dump on the easiest coin after btc. Wait for segwit security failures and price going towards zero
[2017-04-15 07:26:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 3 @ 0.00970
[2017-04-15 07:26:25] aethlios : laisee: what's the real use for btc??
[2017-04-15 07:28:15] KyllingLolsson : aethlios: value storage?
[2017-04-15 07:29:19] oo : aethlios: everything is real
[2017-04-15 07:29:23] laisee : P2P ???
[2017-04-15 07:30:23] laisee : We have btc and ETH and zec and dash, ltc adds no value and will be ruined by segwit imho
[2017-04-15 07:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1 @ 0.00960
[2017-04-15 07:31:46] aethlios : KyllingLolsson: why ltc is not value storage?? eth is value storage?? is gold??
[2017-04-15 07:35:15] aethlios : don't get fooled, btc is no storage of value, those are marketing words. no scarcity also, crypto are unlimited coins in unlimited quantities. btc is a technology and a network. only valuable in btc now is network effect, but eth has already builded the same and starts building an ecosystem effect, with many other projects running on eth. Which project lately used BTC???
[2017-04-15 07:35:48] KyllingLolsson : aethlios: u cant compare apples and pears, it's just another form
[2017-04-15 07:36:01] rapidgains : laisee: wow you got the btc bull to argue against btc
[2017-04-15 07:36:14] KyllingLolsson : LTC is also a tech network
[2017-04-15 07:36:33] aethlios : KyllingLolsson: btc and eth are not compatible?? so why when btc dumps, all run to buy eth??
[2017-04-15 07:36:59] KyllingLolsson : i see your points and they are valid. I just see that as short term traders
[2017-04-15 07:37:13] KyllingLolsson : the price action
[2017-04-15 07:41:43] aethlios : so we have here a psychopathy chinese who thinks is god of crypto and wants to manipulate and control the future development of litecoin against the thousands of ltc holders and development team and creator, and uses his economic power to push his will against all the others.
[2017-04-15 07:44:39] aethlios : prohashing from 5 ghash has now 55. the same psychopath blocked vtc's sw attempet also. he rented so much hashing power and vtc's network from 25 jumped to 150. he now has 55% of network and antiSW. https://vtconline.org/sf.html those are criminals and free market must give them a lesson soon.
[2017-04-15 07:52:01] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-04-15 07:58:42] rugu : wow, that effort to manipulate the market. Won't just getting that much hashing power be a massive loss?
[2017-04-15 08:02:16] KyllingLolsson : maybe somone made millions even to has power
[2017-04-15 08:02:30] KyllingLolsson : even tho
[2017-04-15 08:03:08] zqooN : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz
[2017-04-15 08:03:36] zqooN : Well that LTC news happened fast, I thought they would at least wait until after the weekend
[2017-04-15 08:05:14] rapidgains : whats news
[2017-04-15 08:05:45] zqooN : prohash
[2017-04-15 08:06:31] 123abc : what's that wet noodle up to
[2017-04-15 08:08:32] rugu : anyone feels shorting ltc worth it? This guy trying to block segwit can only profit by squeezing longs and causing some FUD
[2017-04-15 08:21:37] frog : aethlios: segwit now below 75% what has happened?
[2017-04-15 08:22:42] Ahhere : Variance?
[2017-04-15 08:22:59] Ahhere : If they were trying to manipulate it would be 65 already
[2017-04-15 08:23:00] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: good morning
[2017-04-15 08:23:06] Ahhere : Hayhay
[2017-04-15 08:23:53] Ahhere : Still short the corn ? @KyllingLolsson
[2017-04-15 08:24:07] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: yea
[2017-04-15 08:25:02] Ahhere : What's your target ? I managed to pull 4btc by doubling down yesterday on the dip. Risky. Still long now with small medium position size
[2017-04-15 08:26:14] frog : Quick check looks like LTC1BTC increase hashrate so now antii segiwt have 29%
[2017-04-15 08:26:59] Ahhere : Miners will be beaten the more shaningans the more power they will lose with uasf
[2017-04-15 08:27:01] frog : also i notice price has dropped
[2017-04-15 08:27:45] frog : that is why wang chun support he knows no chance even with his support\
[2017-04-15 08:28:23] Ahhere : No chance for segwit ?
[2017-04-15 08:28:57] frog : look unlikely except with UASF
[2017-04-15 08:29:12] frog : jihan playing good game
[2017-04-15 08:30:06] Ahhere : Not making many friends
[2017-04-15 08:30:29] frog : he wants increased block size
[2017-04-15 08:30:42] Ahhere : And more power
[2017-04-15 08:31:03] frog : it is ok solution bit will result in chinese control of both btc and ltc
[2017-04-15 08:31:04] Ahhere : Gigantic blocks for his server farms only
[2017-04-15 08:31:24] frog : yes
[2017-04-15 08:31:33] frog : no-one else can compete
[2017-04-15 08:31:43] frog : so china look like they win
[2017-04-15 08:32:16] frog : core argue about purity and satoshi but world moves on
[2017-04-15 08:32:27] Actualiteit : Choyna
[2017-04-15 08:32:48] frog : good for bitcoin, but not good for short term price
[2017-04-15 08:34:06] frog : it still close 74.9%
[2017-04-15 08:35:34] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: IDK about target, i fint it so hard to tell. I just ride the waves and look for key reversals. Good! 4btc :) I fucked up before u know so im trading wih litte still... :(
[2017-04-15 08:36:13] KyllingLolsson : like 2 weeks ago
[2017-04-15 08:41:16] Actualiteit : KyllingLolsson: we've all been there I think lol
[2017-04-15 08:42:52] KyllingLolsson : yeah i guess so
[2017-04-15 08:43:28] KyllingLolsson : so i have this rule, where i have to build up 1 btc again before i can add more funds
[2017-04-15 08:44:04] Actualiteit : KyllingLolsson: good
[2017-04-15 08:44:43] Actualiteit : I felt like a big boy after trumpcoin, burned 1rd of my profits in a month
[2017-04-15 08:44:47] Actualiteit : good learning moment
[2017-04-15 08:44:53] Actualiteit : 1/3rd*
[2017-04-15 08:47:34] KyllingLolsson : ive burnd much more... :( money management VS adhd :P
[2017-04-15 08:49:44] KyllingLolsson : afk
[2017-04-15 09:20:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: buy 50 @ 0.009440
[2017-04-15 09:23:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 11 @ 0.00997
[2017-04-15 10:00:14] Sasukeevil : /price
[2017-04-15 10:00:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1178.38 (0.13%) Bitfinex : 1207.20 (0.05%) The Woodchipper : 1188.61 (-0.05%) itBit : 1176.99 (0.00%) Kraken : 1186.73 (0.23%) GDAX : 1180.51 (0.01%) SLQ : 4 hours, 14 mins```
[2017-04-15 10:07:05] emcor : the fact that ltc doesnt have tx backlog at the moment is a backward-oriented argument against segwit
[2017-04-15 10:07:39] emcor : as soon as ltc has segwit, number of transactions might go up fast as ltc payments can be delivered instantly vs btc
[2017-04-15 10:09:54] emcor : saying segwit is not relevant for ltc because there are not enough tx backlog is like saying "btc was worth 1$ 10 years ago, so dont pay 1000$ now"
[2017-04-15 10:10:42] emcor : ergo some of you are bullshitters
[2017-04-15 10:10:53] emcor : some of you are gonna pay me off when ltc is at 500$
[2017-04-15 10:12:42] emcor : thx
[2017-04-15 10:12:50] Actualiteit : 500
[2017-04-15 10:12:51] Actualiteit : lkmao
[2017-04-15 10:12:56] Actualiteit : 10k minimum
[2017-04-15 10:15:09] emcor : you gonna pay me 500$ for each ltc and say "now ltc has tx backlog so segwit very useful"
[2017-04-15 10:15:26] Actualiteit : I'm not tho
[2017-04-15 10:15:35] emcor : you will
[2017-04-15 10:15:41] Actualiteit : I will pay you 10k as ltc will be 500k in a month m8
[2017-04-15 10:15:42] emcor : just as you pay 1200$ for one btc
[2017-04-15 10:16:00] Actualiteit : web 4.0 right here
[2017-04-15 10:16:11] Actualiteit : revolutionary tech
[2017-04-15 10:16:38] emcor : ok i admit i dont buy any ltc
[2017-04-15 10:16:53] emcor : was only long yesterday during the pump and immediately cashed out before the crash
[2017-04-15 10:16:54] emcor : HAHAHAHAHAA
[2017-04-15 10:17:27] Actualiteit : damnit
[2017-04-15 10:17:41] Actualiteit : how am I going to pay you for your ltc now???
[2017-04-15 10:27:13] Actualiteit : I will
[2017-04-15 10:27:17] Actualiteit : buy high sell low is my credo
[2017-04-15 10:29:20] elvisx : can someone explain the charts to me?
[2017-04-15 10:30:23] aethlios : https://twitter.com/seandotau/status/852949734360731648
[2017-04-15 10:31:48] KingTuna : I just got off a 7 hour flight. What happened to LTC?
[2017-04-15 10:32:11] elvisx : alcapone@: the 2 charts under the price chart
[2017-04-15 10:34:04] elvisx : alcapone@: yes, thanks alot
[2017-04-15 10:36:56] KingTuna : aethlios: LTC big dump what occurred
[2017-04-15 10:38:34] zqooN : lol
[2017-04-15 10:38:38] aethlios : KingTuna: anti SW miners pump up hash rate, dropped SW %.
[2017-04-15 10:39:49] frog : segwit 76% good side is winning
[2017-04-15 10:40:45] elvisx : alcapone@: thanks, i will since there's still some grey areas. I'm new
[2017-04-15 10:41:07] aethlios : Segwit 74.9%.
[2017-04-15 10:41:41] zqooN : aethlios: 260/339 (76.70%)
[2017-04-15 10:42:22] frog : zqooN: :)
[2017-04-15 10:44:04] zqooN : elvisx: Just don't share your email you use for your account here or the one used for 2fa, keep security tight and btc safe. Dont click any untrusted links in emails and dont give api keys or whatever can give someone access to your btc
[2017-04-15 10:44:57] KingTuna : aethlios: just price manipulation do you think before it goes well above 75%?
[2017-04-15 10:48:27] aethlios : KingTuna: more possible is SW will be activated with UASF, they will block it with renting scrypt hash rate. will keep it 75% and at the end drop to 72% etc.
[2017-04-15 10:49:10] aethlios : KingTuna: do you see what happens (happened) in vtc?? from there you get what happens.
[2017-04-15 10:50:39] aethlios : UASF will be successful in ltc, 99% of people are in favor of SW, but in btc there is a problem, and could be a mess.
[2017-04-15 10:51:34] aethlios : the only opposing SW in ltc, are miners who have interests in btc, and are irrelevant with ltc. ltc now a victim of btc civil war.
[2017-04-15 10:53:48] Farzad : /price
[2017-04-15 10:53:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1178.86 (0.04%) Bitfinex : 1205.90 (-0.11%) The Woodchipper : 1192.42 (0.32%) itBit : 1176.99 (0.00%) Kraken : 1188.20 (0.12%) GDAX : 1182.16 (0.14%) SLQ : 53 mins```
[2017-04-15 10:54:26] Farzad : $20-$30 premium at bitfinex
[2017-04-15 10:54:50] Farzad : @sleger, u here ?
[2017-04-15 10:59:56] Ahhere : aethlios: sad but likely true
[2017-04-15 11:07:51] Sutan : /prices
[2017-04-15 11:08:13] Sutan : /price
[2017-04-15 11:08:17] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1180.00 (0.10%) Bitfinex : 1208.00 (0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1192.21 (-0.02%) itBit : 1176.99 (0.00%) Kraken : 1190.00 (0.15%) GDAX : 1181.51 (-0.05%) SLQ : 14 mins```
[2017-04-15 11:11:40] frog : aethlios: they should have gone straight to UASF, rather than let jihan f**k everyone around for a few weeks.. That way the users would decide rather than who ever can afford to rent a few asics. It is only option to avoid minority rule.
[2017-04-15 11:12:31] Actualiteit : finex just being retarded the last few days nothing special
[2017-04-15 11:43:01] EastIndiaCompany : They should rename BU to Lizardcoin
[2017-04-15 11:43:04] EastIndiaCompany : and just fork
[2017-04-15 11:45:13] KingTuna : aethlios: so prob better to stay out for s little while if just a trader , as opposed to a medium term investor ?
[2017-04-15 11:46:44] Sultan Pepper : Sutan: your name always throws me off
[2017-04-15 12:04:11] KingTuna : So when would this segwit mining be completed? Says around 2000 blocks left
[2017-04-15 12:23:41] sleger : "alcapone@: elvisx: if have any q or need any help, just let me know at tigros26@gmail.com" <= ANY ADMIN HERE ?
[2017-04-15 12:38:37] aethlios : do you see what happens in nice hash scrypt??
[2017-04-15 12:39:36] aethlios : 1 Ghash pays 0.0525 btc of mined ltc in 24 hours, and people in nice hash rent with double prices.
[2017-04-15 12:40:02] aethlios : 20 ghash for 0.13 now in europe
[2017-04-15 12:40:38] aethlios : let them burn their money mining ltc with 20 usd cost.
[2017-04-15 12:42:14] aethlios : KingTuna: in 13 days will the period end, there will be volatility, so traders can trade.
[2017-04-15 12:47:17] sleger : alcapone@: no worries, I just emailed bitmex so they can take care of your new account lorestr
[2017-04-15 12:50:18] l3f : aethlios: nicehash is for laundering money
[2017-04-15 12:50:59] l3f : obviously premium exists
[2017-04-15 12:51:20] l3f : have dirty hacked, stolen btc. Use it to buy hash power and get alts, sell alts back for clean btc
[2017-04-15 12:51:20] BitMEX_Greg : alcapone@: banned
[2017-04-15 12:51:43] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: #rekt
[2017-04-15 12:52:01] EastIndiaCompany : People who are banned are banned for life?
[2017-04-15 12:52:39] BitMEX_Greg : In his case, yes
[2017-04-15 12:53:31] sleger : EastIndiaCompany: he is trying to scam people out
[2017-04-15 12:53:58] sleger : pretending to help first, then email contact, then convince to give api keys to trade for you but then he can get all your money, or so he thinks
[2017-04-15 12:58:11] aethlios : l3f: why only in scrypt? if an address is black listed, it will move and need to send to nicehash btc to mine.
[2017-04-15 13:04:01] justinlooking : that guy keeps coming back
[2017-04-15 13:05:04] justinlooking : is shadow banning a thing on bitmex ?
[2017-04-15 13:12:12] l3f : aethlios: more people accepting ltc for fiat
[2017-04-15 13:12:24] l3f : Also coinbase ltc opening anticipation
[2017-04-15 13:13:09] l3f : I still think 1400 for btc soon
[2017-04-15 13:13:25] l3f : with or without segwit
[2017-04-15 13:22:40] aethlios : l3f: i expect many businesses survives to cooperate with ltc after LN.
[2017-04-15 13:30:27] l3f : aethlios: ltc dev team is a joke
[2017-04-15 13:30:38] l3f : they are only notable for being the first copycat shitcoin
[2017-04-15 13:31:14] l3f : secondly most people that take bitcoin payments use a payment processor such as bitpay
[2017-04-15 13:31:22] l3f : most (almost all)
[2017-04-15 13:31:45] l3f : merchants will accept ltc once users push for it
[2017-04-15 13:31:57] l3f : and the payment processors such as bitpay jump on board
[2017-04-15 13:35:48] Ahhere : Bitcoin done goofed
[2017-04-15 13:36:30] laisee : Segwit has many gotchas for a coin unless 95% of miners support it & keep supporting it。 DOn't think LTC dev's can fix anything in SW code ...
[2017-04-15 13:37:01] l3f : anyways ltc dev guy admitted on twitter that he's retarded and can't fix shit if it breaks
[2017-04-15 13:37:14] l3f : with his "hesitation" on ltc since they wanted that free btc support
[2017-04-15 13:37:40] Ahhere : Consequences will never be the same tbh
[2017-04-15 13:42:11] Ahhere : alcapone@ was backtraced and reported to the cyber police thankfully
[2017-04-15 13:44:45] l3f : French election in a week
[2017-04-15 13:44:45] l3f : hype
[2017-04-15 14:00:07] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-15 14:00:08] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1179.99 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1209.50 (0.12%) The Woodchipper : 1194.05 (0.15%) itBit : 1180.90 (0.33%) Kraken : 1185.34 (-0.39%) GDAX : 1182.84 (0.11%) SLQ : 2 hours, 51 mins```
[2017-04-15 14:10:04] Moonlighter : How long does it take for a position to close and profit to be credited once I close one?
[2017-04-15 14:10:22] Moonlighter : New to Bitmex and used to other platformd
[2017-04-15 14:11:07] BitMEX_Greg : Moonlighter: If you close your position then your unrealised profit turns into realised profit immediately which you are able to withdraw. Otherwise you need to wait for settlement, if the contract does settle
[2017-04-15 14:13:40] oo : Wow btc go up
[2017-04-15 14:13:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 310 @ 1193.4
[2017-04-15 14:14:12] Moonlighter : I click the blue close button and not the red market one in the positions tab right? It showed up as an active order.
[2017-04-15 14:14:20] oo : bet it all, then you will be the legend
[2017-04-15 14:26:39] sleger : big ask wall on finex
[2017-04-15 14:27:12] stf28 : and bid also
[2017-04-15 14:27:35] sleger : showed up after
[2017-04-15 14:28:29] emcor : lol there are currently two 3m$ walls against each other on bitfinex
[2017-04-15 14:29:56] stf28 : at stamp 3k btc would bring us to 1400 or 1000 lol
[2017-04-15 14:31:20] thomaskikansha : popcorn time
[2017-04-15 14:32:29] stf28 : will one of them fat finger to the market?
[2017-04-15 14:32:53] stf28 : is this the same entity?
[2017-04-15 14:33:08] stf28 : *dramatic music*
[2017-04-15 14:33:55] stf28 : showing such amounts is this the same as comparing penises?
[2017-04-15 14:42:40] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-15 14:42:43] MikeHunt : 3M sell wall
[2017-04-15 14:42:47] MikeHunt : then 3M buy wall appears
[2017-04-15 14:43:09] MikeHunt : whale: "two can play at that game"
[2017-04-15 14:43:14] Shoba : yeah just saw that a few minutes ago, not sure how long they've been there
[2017-04-15 14:43:50] Shoba : guess 15 mins judging by the chat here
[2017-04-15 14:44:01] MikeHunt : game of chicken
[2017-04-15 14:44:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4 @ 1195.7 :punch: :whale:
[2017-04-15 14:44:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 88 @ 1195.3
[2017-04-15 14:47:57] Shoba : sell wall running away
[2017-04-15 14:49:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2500 @ 1196.3
[2017-04-15 14:50:14] emcor : i dont know why he would put up a second wall instead of just buy the other
[2017-04-15 14:50:32] shillosopher : emcor: because it is the same person
[2017-04-15 14:50:35] shillosopher : *entity
[2017-04-15 14:50:45] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-15 14:50:47] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1187.05 (0.60%) Bitfinex : 1212.30 (0.23%) The Woodchipper : 1201.00 (0.58%) itBit : 1180.90 (0.00%) Kraken : 1195.00 (0.81%) GDAX : 1182.99 (0.01%) SLQ : 50 mins```
[2017-04-15 14:56:32] emcor : shillosopher: how would that make sense??
[2017-04-15 14:57:21] Actualiteit : emcor: it's mostly just a form of exhibitionism, showing yer dick to everybody
[2017-04-15 14:57:28] Actualiteit : but now it's with btc and dollaroos
[2017-04-15 14:59:15] shillosopher : emcor: is that a serious question??
[2017-04-15 15:02:54] herpinator : wow double 3k walls whales playin with us
[2017-04-15 15:03:23] herpinator : ah buy wall gone
[2017-04-15 15:03:32] herpinator : sell wall gone o.o
[2017-04-15 15:03:45] herpinator : whale flashing dat 6k btc balance
[2017-04-15 15:03:51] Actualiteit : herpinator: yes they bought and sold market simultaneously
[2017-04-15 15:04:00] Actualiteit : now buy high and sell it low
[2017-04-15 15:04:08] herpinator : Actualiteit: no they didn't they just took the orders down
[2017-04-15 15:04:26] Actualiteit : herpinator: nah man they bought market obviously
[2017-04-15 15:04:32] Actualiteit : this is web 7.0 baby
[2017-04-15 15:04:37] herpinator : im talking about finex btw
[2017-04-15 15:04:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 1197.5
[2017-04-15 15:04:50] rapidgains : lol
[2017-04-15 15:04:57] rapidgains : so damn bullish
[2017-04-15 15:05:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 1198.6
[2017-04-15 15:05:34] herpinator : you must be confused only 100 btc changed hands in the last 5m @Actualiteit
[2017-04-15 15:05:55] herpinator : oh whale is back again
[2017-04-15 15:06:17] Actualiteit : herpinator: nah m8 I'm an expert in this shiet, they bought market mayne we gon buy high sell low lets lose some money people lets go
[2017-04-15 15:06:28] rapidgains : wolong style
[2017-04-15 15:06:42] herpinator : 3k btc walls 1210 and 1218 respectively
[2017-04-15 15:06:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1199.3
[2017-04-15 15:06:43] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 404 @ 1198.9
[2017-04-15 15:06:43] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 1199.1
[2017-04-15 15:06:43] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2017-04-15 15:07:02] InvalidUser : Someone is trying to move the price up or make us think it's going up
[2017-04-15 15:08:18] herpinator : InvalidUser: what would you get from placing the walls there like that on both sides? sure painting a range on everything but when you see large walls like that you gotta think what is their true intention - its obvious with a wall in 1 direction but when its both it seems strange
[2017-04-15 15:08:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 11010 @ 1194.6
[2017-04-15 15:09:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 20 @ 0.03991
[2017-04-15 15:09:18] Actualiteit : they want to add a new dimension to trading, where price can rise and fall at the exact same time
[2017-04-15 15:09:27] Actualiteit : revolutionary tech right there m8, web 90.6
[2017-04-15 15:11:21] shillosopher : Actualiteit: Banking 9000.1
[2017-04-15 15:11:46] herpinator : Actualiteit: i agree
[2017-04-15 15:11:54] emcor : lol guys second wall
[2017-04-15 15:11:59] emcor : 5m$ ask wall
[2017-04-15 15:14:25] emcor : well
[2017-04-15 15:14:33] emcor : somebody is gonna get rekt
[2017-04-15 15:14:35] emcor : thats for sure
[2017-04-15 15:15:05] Actualiteit : you think?
[2017-04-15 15:17:18] JerryBuss : shorters gonna get /rekt
[2017-04-15 15:18:31] Actualiteit : Im going short, 1 contract lets go
[2017-04-15 15:21:11] InvalidUser : herpinator: To control the price moving. Then as the price goes up one of the times he moves his walls up 5 bucks wait, then repeat. I am guessing they are going to do that a few times and then remove the wall
[2017-04-15 15:25:17] MikeHunt : so they use this tactic to move up beyond 1250?
[2017-04-15 15:27:52] Actualiteit : MikeHunt: Probably around 5k
[2017-04-15 15:28:04] InvalidUser : I am not sure of the upper price limit. But if they move that wall up again that means that they are attempting to move the price up. It could also be a drunk whale showing off
[2017-04-15 15:33:41] emcor : if believe if bitfinex recognize a kind of market manipulation here, they would ban it
[2017-04-15 15:39:40] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-15 15:39:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 49.21 / 50.79 Daily : 54.97 / 45.03 Weekly : 48.22 / 51.78 Monthly : 50.63 / 49.38```
[2017-04-15 15:43:59] InvalidUser : If they cared about market manipulation they would ban bots
[2017-04-15 15:52:42] irvingtrader : Now is on support at fibo 23.6%
[2017-04-15 15:55:34] irvingtrader : if it go back to 1204 wi can have it at 1216
[2017-04-15 16:03:32] Sutan : /price
[2017-04-15 16:03:34] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1189.46 (0.20%) Bitfinex : 1214.00 (0.14%) The Woodchipper : 1207.00 (0.50%) itBit : 1190.67 (0.83%) Kraken : 1195.66 (0.06%) GDAX : 1188.99 (0.51%) SLQ : 1 hour, 12 mins```
[2017-04-15 16:08:41] InvalidUser : Not many people have 8 million sitting on Finex to play with.
[2017-04-15 16:08:57] InvalidUser : #1 Finex
[2017-04-15 16:10:44] irvingtrader : /sentimental
[2017-04-15 16:10:56] irvingtrader : /sentiment
[2017-04-15 16:10:59] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.43 / 69.57 Daily : 53.65 / 46.35 Weekly : 48.14 / 51.86 Monthly : 50.62 / 49.38```
[2017-04-15 16:19:09] irvingtrader : /price
[2017-04-15 16:19:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1188.36 (-0.09%) Bitfinex : 1213.10 (-0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1205.56 (-0.12%) itBit : 1190.67 (0.00%) Kraken : 1194.97 (-0.06%) GDAX : 1188.99 (0.00%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-04-15 16:37:21] irvingtrader : Sentiment
[2017-04-15 16:37:48] irvingtrader : /sentiment
[2017-04-15 16:37:50] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 25.78 / 74.22 Daily : 53.15 / 46.85 Weekly : 48.15 / 51.86 Monthly : 50.62 / 49.38```
[2017-04-15 16:43:35] InvalidUser : Bitmex wants a 3 mXBT as a transaction fee?
[2017-04-15 16:43:56] shillosopher : InvalidUser: yea it is retarded lol
[2017-04-15 16:44:13] InvalidUser : Damn, lol
[2017-04-15 16:44:32] KyllingLolsson : how much is that in dollars?
[2017-04-15 16:44:40] KyllingLolsson : 3?
[2017-04-15 16:44:50] InvalidUser : It's about 3.4 USD
[2017-04-15 16:44:58] KyllingLolsson : damn!
[2017-04-15 16:45:06] shillosopher : once i withdraw i'm not coming back. Fees are retar.ded lol
[2017-04-15 16:45:41] KyllingLolsson : shillosopher: but bitmex is also registered at the Seychelles :P
[2017-04-15 16:45:56] InvalidUser : I was going to move 10mXBT to buy some new shit coin and they want 30% for me to send it
[2017-04-15 16:46:35] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-15 16:46:37] sleger : its network fee its not for bitmex
[2017-04-15 16:46:58] InvalidUser : network fees are not that high right now
[2017-04-15 16:46:58] sleger : its for the btc miners, if we were all using eth or ltc it would be so much cheaper
[2017-04-15 16:47:07] shillosopher : sleger: every other exchange i trade at is like 10x less fees
[2017-04-15 16:47:11] sleger : InvalidUser: network fees depend on message size FYI
[2017-04-15 16:47:40] sleger : shillosopher: every other means 1 out of 2 FYI
[2017-04-15 16:47:43] irvingtrader : mining fee is .0001 btc to .0002 btc
[2017-04-15 16:48:06] sleger : no it is not
[2017-04-15 16:48:13] sleger : mining fee depends on message size
[2017-04-15 16:48:16] sleger : please read again
[2017-04-15 16:48:29] sleger : bitmex uses large multisig transaction and therefore requires higher fees
[2017-04-15 16:48:35] shillosopher : polo withdraw fee is 0.00010000
[2017-04-15 16:48:39] irvingtrader : usually is for the bloxk zize
[2017-04-15 16:48:42] sleger : they also pay the fee to be likely included in next block
[2017-04-15 16:49:00] sleger : shillosopher: yes it is and have you looked into why ?
[2017-04-15 16:49:09] shillosopher : I don't care why lol
[2017-04-15 16:49:14] KyllingLolsson : why be concerned abt the fee when there is sp much money to be made
[2017-04-15 16:49:27] shillosopher : I don't want to pay 30x fee for a withdrawal
[2017-04-15 16:49:32] sleger : it matters for poor people apparently @KyllingLolsson
[2017-04-15 16:49:40] shillosopher : much less for a withdrawal that only gets processed once a day lmao
[2017-04-15 16:49:42] InvalidUser : There fee is 3 times higher then I have ever paid to guarantee my transaction was included in the next block.
[2017-04-15 16:49:54] sleger : *Their
[2017-04-15 16:50:13] InvalidUser : *Their minimum fee
[2017-04-15 16:50:21] irvingtrader : withdrawal fee pn bitmex is higher then others.
[2017-04-15 16:50:32] Rookie : InvalidUser: BitMEX only cares about rich people :(
[2017-04-15 16:50:40] sleger : feel free to trade on btc-e
[2017-04-15 16:50:50] irvingtrader : lol.
[2017-04-15 16:50:56] InvalidUser : Then how am I going to buy a billion of these shit coins
[2017-04-15 16:51:03] shillosopher : fuck yea, going back there once i withdraw here lol
[2017-04-15 16:51:17] sleger : just finish losing everything
[2017-04-15 16:51:21] sleger : no fee to pay after that
[2017-04-15 16:51:22] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-15 16:51:35] InvalidUser : Rookie: Ok Cayenne West (:
[2017-04-15 16:53:11] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mop827WmWHE
[2017-04-15 16:54:43] Rookie : hey, I would gyp the miners if I could too
[2017-04-15 16:56:18] InvalidUser : The miners secure the nextwork
[2017-04-15 16:56:30] InvalidUser : network
[2017-04-15 16:56:51] InvalidUser : The miners are not causing high fees the back log is.
[2017-04-15 16:57:01] InvalidUser : supply and demand 101
[2017-04-15 16:58:49] InvalidUser : the lower wall is being tested now at finex.. Lets see how brave they are with there money
[2017-04-15 16:59:30] InvalidUser : Its gone
[2017-04-15 16:59:45] InvalidUser : Short!
[2017-04-15 17:00:37] InvalidUser : *Their
[2017-04-15 17:01:23] InvalidUser : next resistance is @ 1202
[2017-04-15 17:01:28] InvalidUser : Finex
[2017-04-15 17:19:46] InvalidUser : I thought the market was going to move more then that when those walls came down
[2017-04-15 17:20:05] InvalidUser : It's DOA
[2017-04-15 17:20:12] irvingtrader : me to
[2017-04-15 17:21:20] CLAW : wtf 1202.1
[2017-04-15 17:21:25] irvingtrader : 36k in 1202.1
[2017-04-15 17:22:01] irvingtrader : some one whant to drop down
[2017-04-15 17:22:53] irvingtrader : /sentiment
[2017-04-15 17:22:55] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 47.37 / 52.63 Daily : 54.36 / 45.64 Weekly : 48.14 / 51.86 Monthly : 50.62 / 49.38```
[2017-04-15 17:27:19] irvingtrader : this 1202.01 please, take of you position lol. take of the wall.
[2017-04-15 17:27:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 71 @ 0.04127
[2017-04-15 17:27:42] 123abc : why ETH pumping
[2017-04-15 17:28:50] InvalidUser : They are getting ready for the dump
[2017-04-15 17:28:56] 123abc : someone bought like 1500 BTC worth just now of ETH
[2017-04-15 17:29:20] InvalidUser : Fatfinger?
[2017-04-15 17:31:03] 123abc : seems like it's just 1 big buyer
[2017-04-15 17:51:24] irvingtrader : again wtf 1199.3 32k
[2017-04-15 17:51:45] rapidgains : ?
[2017-04-15 17:52:06] rapidgains : its only 32k
[2017-04-15 17:52:47] thomaskikansha : even 320K doesnt matter
[2017-04-15 17:53:21] irvingtrader : i am thing close my long position.
[2017-04-15 17:55:13] InvalidUser : I have no open trades, it's to hard to predict right now.
[2017-04-15 17:55:24] KyllingLolsson : Fartfinger
[2017-04-15 17:56:07] 123abc : lol ETH
[2017-04-15 17:56:12] 123abc : monster buy wall now
[2017-04-15 17:56:16] KyllingLolsson : If btc up, then up just a little, then perhaps sideways, and mega dump
[2017-04-15 17:56:20] 123abc : epic pump wall
[2017-04-15 18:01:37] Actualiteit : 39k eth is chump change
[2017-04-15 18:02:46] 123abc : ETC pumping too
[2017-04-15 18:05:40] irvingtrader : BTC is goin short
[2017-04-15 18:06:24] Aegis : ETH Moon
[2017-04-15 18:07:09] Aegis : Ethereum just broke out of its downtrend
[2017-04-15 18:07:45] Aegis : With nice volume and wall support
[2017-04-15 18:08:42] 123abc : ETH wall taken down
[2017-04-15 18:10:03] rugu : what margin % do you guys use up in trades?
[2017-04-15 18:12:58] Shoba : 125
[2017-04-15 18:13:13] shillosopher : rugu: over 9000
[2017-04-15 18:13:16] rugu : 12.5 u mean
[2017-04-15 18:13:23] rugu : only if your name is Goku
[2017-04-15 18:15:58] 123abc : lol ETH wtf
[2017-04-15 18:16:03] 123abc : 41,994 market buy
[2017-04-15 18:16:33] 123abc : ETC big buy too
[2017-04-15 18:16:41] rugu : whats with this eth buy
[2017-04-15 18:17:17] 123abc : market buying with no support
[2017-04-15 18:17:22] 123abc : someone just wants to all in asap
[2017-04-15 18:17:23] sleger : its the best crypto thats why
[2017-04-15 18:17:49] Actualiteit : its web 7.nine bro
[2017-04-15 18:18:09] Actualiteit : all the big companies are buying bcuz they use teh techologies
[2017-04-15 18:18:19] Satoshi4Segwit : /rekt
[2017-04-15 18:18:20] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 1 day, 11 hours, 46 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 220000 @ 1193.2 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 2 days, 50 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150000 @ 1156.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 51 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 290000 @ 1161.9 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-04-15 18:18:36] rugu : big companies use private ethereum networks not the public ones, so they dont need ether
[2017-04-15 18:19:04] Actualiteit : rugu: yeah no shit tell that the shills m8
[2017-04-15 18:21:11] Aegis : There is nothing stopping ETH
[2017-04-15 18:21:27] sleger : chuck norris tried, he got REKT
[2017-04-15 18:22:17] Satoshi4Segwit : lol
[2017-04-15 18:22:51] Aegis : ZEC will be added to ETH, it'll skyrocket
[2017-04-15 18:23:03] Aegis : Also, project alchemy coming up :)
[2017-04-15 18:23:13] Aegis : Bright future for both ZEC and ETH
[2017-04-15 18:23:50] rugu : Aegis: Any timeline on that?
[2017-04-15 18:27:35] Aegis : rugu: No exact date, but soon.
[2017-04-15 18:39:00] EastIndiaCompany : ETH going PoS should be interesting
[2017-04-15 18:42:53] Satoshi4Segwit : /rekt
[2017-04-15 18:42:53] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 1 day, 12 hours, 11 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 220000 @ 1193.2 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 2 days, 1 hour, 15 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150000 @ 1156.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 1 hour, 16 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 290000 @ 1161.9 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-04-15 18:43:01] jeeburns : how long for btc to deposit typically?
[2017-04-15 18:43:26] zqooN : 1 confirmation
[2017-04-15 18:43:27] rugu : 20-30min
[2017-04-15 18:45:31] InvalidUser : I waited 9 hours for one 2 days ago\
[2017-04-15 18:45:51] alejandromasari : /rekt
[2017-04-15 18:56:11] Jsgh : /sentiment
[2017-04-15 18:56:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.74 / 44.26 Daily : 54.82 / 45.18 Weekly : 47.38 / 52.62 Monthly : 50.60 / 49.40```
[2017-04-15 18:59:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 8263 @ 1192.6
[2017-04-15 19:03:02] rapidgains : chop chop
[2017-04-15 19:08:31] Ahhere : Everyone seems to think something big about to happen. Long or short guise? Kings and paupers about be made. Some accounts will not be ressurrected tomorrow ..
[2017-04-15 19:09:54] zqooN : Ahhere: everyone is looking for eastereggs these days
[2017-04-15 19:10:14] Actualiteit : Ahhere: go long all in 100x bruh cant go wrong
[2017-04-15 19:11:36] EastIndiaCompany : all right
[2017-04-15 19:11:40] Ahhere : Actualiteit: finally some impartial advice
[2017-04-15 19:12:11] Ahhere : The Easter massacre of 2017 they'll call it
[2017-04-15 19:12:12] shillosopher : "go long all in 100x bruh cant go wrong" -truth
[2017-04-15 19:12:23] Actualiteit : you know it
[2017-04-15 19:12:51] shillosopher : you can thank me and @Actualiteit later
[2017-04-15 19:13:22] EastIndiaCompany : double or nothing strategy
[2017-04-15 19:13:34] EastIndiaCompany : get rich or go homeless
[2017-04-15 19:14:03] Actualiteit : exactly
[2017-04-15 19:14:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 11 @ 0.004404
[2017-04-15 19:14:24] Actualiteit : dont listen to those guys with thei stopp loss bullshit and their "only risk X% of your bankroll"
[2017-04-15 19:14:34] Actualiteit : they're just trolling
[2017-04-15 19:15:17] shillosopher : bankroll is something poker players use
[2017-04-15 19:15:51] EastIndiaCompany : all in every hand my friend
[2017-04-15 19:18:17] shillosopher : I only go all in with 10 5 offsuit or worse. My opponents will never expect it
[2017-04-15 19:20:12] Ahhere : U guise are the best long placed
[2017-04-15 19:21:01] Ahhere : Just buy on market until it says insufficient collateral right?
[2017-04-15 19:21:54] Ahhere : Then go to sleep and wait for Easter bunny.
[2017-04-15 19:24:09] arbitrage101 : yo
[2017-04-15 19:24:11] arbitrage101 : buy zcash
[2017-04-15 19:24:18] arbitrage101 : apple said it is real currency
[2017-04-15 19:24:25] rugu : wut
[2017-04-15 19:24:26] arbitrage101 : https://cointelegraph.com/news/apple-accepts-zcash-as-legitimate-cryptocurrency-now-available-on-ios
[2017-04-15 19:24:42] shillosopher : lol cointelegraph
[2017-04-15 19:24:49] arbitrage101 : what about it
[2017-04-15 19:25:18] Actualiteit : arbitrage101: you just crashed the site m8
[2017-04-15 19:25:20] rugu : websites not even loading
[2017-04-15 19:26:07] rugu : and idk how valueable is jaxx accepting zcash as far as marke tprice is concerned
[2017-04-15 19:26:08] Actualiteit : good for zcash
[2017-04-15 19:26:23] Actualiteit : wasnt that the coin with a certain percentage of mined going to the devs forever?
[2017-04-15 19:26:31] rugu : yes
[2017-04-15 19:26:36] Actualiteit : okok
[2017-04-15 19:26:58] rugu : wallet adding a coin isn't worth much, an exchange adding one is massive
[2017-04-15 19:27:47] arbitrage101 : it is on bitfinex and kraken
[2017-04-15 19:27:55] shillosopher : shitcoins need to up their game. Getting on an exchange is alright. Getting on an exchange on margin should be the new goal
[2017-04-15 19:28:13] rugu : hard to do
[2017-04-15 19:28:15] arbitrage101 : you can short on bitfinex as well
[2017-04-15 19:28:36] rugu : shorted btc at 1199, but price so stable now :
[2017-04-15 19:28:41] shillosopher : the jaxx wallet guys are retarded imo
[2017-04-15 19:28:45] plappa : is it dumb to market buy/sell on here?
[2017-04-15 19:29:02] shillosopher : I don't even think you can do anon transactions with zcash in jaxx
[2017-04-15 19:29:13] rugu : no, when a massive spike happens, you might have to buy at market to ensure you don't miss out on it
[2017-04-15 19:29:36] plappa : ugh i can never get filled at limit here on swaps lol
[2017-04-15 19:29:40] rugu : but if its a planned buy, always by at limit
[2017-04-15 19:29:51] plappa : what about planned shorts
[2017-04-15 19:29:53] rugu : why not?
[2017-04-15 19:30:20] rugu : i placed a short at 1199 a few hours ago and it got executed , iv put a close at 1185, and will be leaving it over night
[2017-04-15 19:31:02] shillosopher : ^ means BTC gonna pump while you sleep
[2017-04-15 19:31:26] rugu : ya doubt it
[2017-04-15 19:35:19] 123abc : ltc pumping
[2017-04-15 19:40:57] Actualiteit : rugu: leverage @ cross and remove your stops
[2017-04-15 19:41:39] rugu : lul
[2017-04-15 19:54:03] mercenario : what is that minimum 1% fee? I´m trying 0 leverage but stills charges me
[2017-04-15 19:54:37] Moonlighter : for lending leverage or borrowing?
[2017-04-15 19:54:48] mercenario : I
[2017-04-15 19:55:10] mercenario : I´m trying 0 leverage and I´m buying and selling
[2017-04-15 19:55:24] mercenario : but at 0x leverage, supposedly
[2017-04-15 19:55:36] mercenario : it still says 0.49x on the gren to red leverage bar
[2017-04-15 19:56:17] Moonlighter : Oh, move it from your margin balance
[2017-04-15 19:56:27] mercenario : I already did
[2017-04-15 19:56:58] mercenario : it defaults to 0.49x or values close to 0
[2017-04-15 19:57:12] mercenario : and says 1% leverage fee
[2017-04-15 19:57:14] Moonlighter : weird, you sure the balance is completely 0?
[2017-04-15 19:57:33] mercenario : try it on another coin
[2017-04-15 19:57:57] mercenario : you will se what I mean, it gives a close to 0 value, but not 0
[2017-04-15 19:58:52] Moonlighter : Could be a bug or the type of order, still new to Bitmex myself usually there's a margin and a trade tab to keep 'em both seperate
[2017-04-15 19:59:16] Moonlighter : elsewhere that is but bitmex is laid out a little different it seems
[2017-04-15 19:59:54] zqooN : mercenario: 0 = cross where you use your whole balance. 1x is just 1 time where you pay what it is worth. The number changes a bit due to how much you are in profit or loss.
[2017-04-15 20:00:07] zqooN : fees you pay when you market buy or sell
[2017-04-15 20:00:08] zqooN : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-04-15 20:00:35] Moonlighter : If I understand him correctly he says it's charging him margin interest still.
[2017-04-15 20:01:09] zqooN : there is no interest on margin unless you get liquidated
[2017-04-15 20:01:57] Moonlighter : Ah my bad then.
[2017-04-15 20:02:21] mercenario : might be my error, still, carefull, this site eats profit, I am trying to survive with $50 initially and will bring machines if I´m able to profit at all, but guess it is not a bitcoin heaven after all
[2017-04-15 20:02:48] Moonlighter : I started with just 15 and have been able to profit today
[2017-04-15 20:03:09] mercenario : today
[2017-04-15 20:03:15] mercenario : tell me after a week
[2017-04-15 20:03:54] mercenario : I´m conducting my study for two months, on normal market conditions
[2017-04-15 20:04:10] Moonlighter : Altcoin market is hardly normal condition right now :p
[2017-04-15 20:04:27] zqooN : crypto is never normal lol
[2017-04-15 20:04:32] Moonlighter : One day of boom, two days backwards ><
[2017-04-15 20:05:12] Moonlighter : Not getting attached to coins has helped me a lot.
[2017-04-15 20:07:09] mercenario : well, will check in a few weeks for that leverage at non 0% :/
[2017-04-15 20:08:06] Moonlighter : You could always try at 2x leverage until you're comfortable.
[2017-04-15 20:08:14] zqooN : mercenario: are you market buying and selling?
[2017-04-15 20:08:23] Moonlighter : doing it without leverage is a little, pointles simo.
[2017-04-15 20:08:32] Moonlighter : imo^
[2017-04-15 20:08:37] rugu : Moonlighter: you use cross or isolated leverage?
[2017-04-15 20:10:43] Sutan : /price
[2017-04-15 20:11:04] Moonlighter : I'm not actually sure, didn't see that in the panel anywhere so I didn't realize there was a choice of leverage type
[2017-04-15 20:11:33] rugu : hmmm so say your balance is 1btc, then whats the order value you place?
[2017-04-15 20:11:39] rugu : i guess that decides your leverage afaik
[2017-04-15 20:12:40] Moonlighter : I usually just buy a set ammount for given coins
[2017-04-15 20:13:00] rapidgains : 5
[2017-04-15 20:13:00] Moonlighter : say 0.002