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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-04-14 01:34:08] bigpapa : not F [2017-04-14 01:34:12] bigpapa : err FX [2017-04-14 01:34:19] bigpapa : most manipulated market in the world [2017-04-14 01:34:26] ronensinger : bigpapa: Damn right [2017-04-14 01:34:36] ronensinger : I wish there was a central fx exchange [2017-04-14 01:34:41] mark121 : sleger: who wud hire u for anything? [2017-04-14 01:34:53] ronensinger : lmax.com is pretty solid tho [2017-04-14 01:34:54] bigpapa : well most people don't even trade on the actual currency [2017-04-14 01:34:57] sleger : someone who wants to make money dummy @mark121 [2017-04-14 01:35:03] sleger : ronensinger: its a small retail mostly exchang [2017-04-14 01:35:07] sleger : i trade there too [2017-04-14 01:35:10] bigpapa : they are suually trading on some type of 3rd party system [2017-04-14 01:35:13] ronensinger : sleger [2017-04-14 01:35:14] mark121 : sleger: u are so desperate to convince us that u are important -- like i cant imagine what u actually must be like [2017-04-14 01:35:21] ronensinger : you say you trade everywhere [2017-04-14 01:35:24] ronensinger : jesus christ [2017-04-14 01:35:25] ronensinger : ib [2017-04-14 01:35:26] sleger : but its nothing like interbank @ronensinger [2017-04-14 01:35:30] ronensinger : lmax [2017-04-14 01:35:34] ronensinger : currrenex [2017-04-14 01:35:35] mark121 : a poop collector who travels n the back of garbage trucks [2017-04-14 01:35:35] sleger : ronensinger: no ib is my personal trading [2017-04-14 01:35:36] ronensinger : integral [2017-04-14 01:35:40] ronensinger : for fucks sake [2017-04-14 01:35:44] sleger : integral yes i make fx there [2017-04-14 01:35:55] ronensinger : then you're doing a terrible job there [2017-04-14 01:35:56] bigpapa : wait [2017-04-14 01:35:57] sleger : of course when you run hft mm operation in fx you trade in most places [2017-04-14 01:36:00] ronensinger : the spreads at intergral suck [2017-04-14 01:36:01] bigpapa : who trades on currenex [2017-04-14 01:36:13] mark121 : u see sleger, karmas a bitch [2017-04-14 01:36:25] ronensinger : even ib has tighter spreads than currenex [2017-04-14 01:36:43] bigpapa : i wouldn't trade on any of that shit now [2017-04-14 01:36:46] sleger : bigpapa: currenex is the largest non interbank institutional exchange, they do 60bn per day on their anonymous platform and much more on their whitelabels [2017-04-14 01:36:46] bigpapa : total joke show [2017-04-14 01:37:00] sleger : of course, currenex is not for retail [2017-04-14 01:37:01] bigpapa : i know who currenex is [2017-04-14 01:37:06] sleger : you dont have access to the other stuff [2017-04-14 01:37:19] bigpapa : ICAP [2017-04-14 01:37:21] sleger : its the biggest ECN (that is not interbank like ebs or reuters) [2017-04-14 01:37:22] bigpapa : Currenex [2017-04-14 01:37:24] sleger : icap is ebs [2017-04-14 01:37:30] ronensinger : sleger: I might get started there then [2017-04-14 01:37:34] ronensinger : 0.7 spread on EURUSD [2017-04-14 01:37:42] ronensinger : Obviously the MM ihas no competition [2017-04-14 01:37:47] sleger : lmax will show you 0.2 id you are a retail [2017-04-14 01:37:56] ronensinger : IB has 0.2 EURUSD [2017-04-14 01:37:59] sleger : the flow is not the same on cnx hence the spreads are wider [2017-04-14 01:38:08] sleger : you guys dont understand anything about this business [2017-04-14 01:38:09] ronensinger : Perfect for a MM like me [2017-04-14 01:38:23] sleger : ib lmax etc is retail flow => nice flow, mm show tight spreads [2017-04-14 01:38:32] hmmmYea : sleger: i have a really good strategy for trading the fix... but other than that im nood at f [2017-04-14 01:38:38] sleger : currenex hotspot etc is for bigger guys, tough flow => wide spreads [2017-04-14 01:38:42] hmmmYea : *im no good at fx [2017-04-14 01:38:55] bigpapa : I used Trading Technologies [2017-04-14 01:39:04] bigpapa : for futures trading [2017-04-14 01:39:32] ronensinger : sleger: What are currenex's comissions? [2017-04-14 01:39:51] sleger : ronensinger: it depends [2017-04-14 01:40:02] sleger : on your volume, negotiation etc [2017-04-14 01:40:20] ronensinger : Like 0.1 pips? [2017-04-14 01:40:30] sleger : typical ecn fees for high volume guys (1 bn per day) is 2-3$/m [2017-04-14 01:40:47] ronensinger : Cheap [2017-04-14 01:40:52] sleger : 0.1pip is 10$/m nobody pays that [2017-04-14 01:40:55] sleger : except retail [2017-04-14 01:41:02] ronensinger : Lmfao [2017-04-14 01:41:15] ronensinger : Why doesn't someone MM and hedge on IB [2017-04-14 01:41:26] sleger : its not that simple [2017-04-14 01:41:27] ronensinger : IB quotes 0.2 and Currenex is 0.7 [2017-04-14 01:41:33] sleger : there are lots of things you dont understan [2017-04-14 01:41:36] sleger : you cant do that [2017-04-14 01:41:40] ronensinger : sleger: Bet [2017-04-14 01:41:49] sleger : ? [2017-04-14 01:42:14] sleger : there are many reasons why you cant [2017-04-14 01:42:20] sleger : just one is something called last look [2017-04-14 01:42:24] sleger : you can google it [2017-04-14 01:42:31] sleger : anyways, i think i prove my point [2017-04-14 01:43:03] sleger : i trade a few bn $ of volume per day of fx (meaning somewhere btw 1 and 100) [2017-04-14 01:43:33] sleger : and it is not a computer seating at home, its colocation, cross-connects etc [2017-04-14 01:43:47] micmix : ronensinger: you said there is too much competition for MMs here, do you think FX is easier? [2017-04-14 01:44:59] mark121 : Stop googling the answer [2017-04-14 01:45:03] sleger : fx is much harder and the barrier for entry is infinitely higher [2017-04-14 01:45:07] mark121 : clearly its NO! [2017-04-14 01:46:03] micmix : sleger: of course, there is no comparision [2017-04-14 01:46:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 61 @ 0.04187 [2017-04-14 01:46:26] sleger : micmix: hey you have an email ? we have a slack group for the smart people among us [2017-04-14 01:47:11] mark121 : but you are in it [2017-04-14 01:47:39] sleger : mark, you said 5 times you would ignore me and stop talking to me, please stick to it [2017-04-14 01:47:42] mark121 : so far uve exhibited internship level knowledge one cud learn in a few weeks [2017-04-14 01:47:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1185.7 [2017-04-14 01:47:57] micmix : sleger: send an invite to info@cryptoiq.io [2017-04-14 01:48:38] sleger : done [2017-04-14 01:48:44] micmix : thanks [2017-04-14 01:50:49] mark121 : i said i wont reply! :D [2017-04-14 01:51:26] mark121 : but if ur tame i shall be glad to leave ya alone [2017-04-14 01:51:41] mark121 : deal! [2017-04-14 01:53:07] elmorte : morning! [2017-04-14 01:53:17] mark121 : mornin dude [2017-04-14 01:55:00] 123abc : Btc still being bought up [2017-04-14 01:55:26] KingTuna : Anyone wanna put dibs on how long this bubble will last ? [2017-04-14 01:55:41] mark121 : which bubble [2017-04-14 01:56:02] 123abc : Eth dipping [2017-04-14 01:56:04] mark121 : bubble trouble 1 or 2 [2017-04-14 01:56:07] elmorte : sleger: how smart does one have to be? [2017-04-14 01:56:19] mark121 : just less smart than him [2017-04-14 01:56:21] mark121 : oops [2017-04-14 01:56:27] mark121 : srry reflex [2017-04-14 01:56:30] cg : IMO we are very undervalued [2017-04-14 01:56:35] cg : shorts in finex higher than longs [2017-04-14 01:57:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 138 @ 0.04138 [2017-04-14 01:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 60 @ 0.04123 [2017-04-14 01:58:28] mark121 : if we break resistance cud be the beginnin of a right shoulder [2017-04-14 01:58:31] KingTuna : I feel LTC about to surge past 0.01 to new 'recent' ATH [2017-04-14 01:58:33] sleger : elmorte: one needs to either be a whale, or find / share some interesting trade arbs, or good track record etc... basically bring value to the group and not just listen and use the info [2017-04-14 01:59:36] elmorte : sleger: what about witty humour? does that count? [2017-04-14 01:59:46] mark121 : KingTuna: im sitl long heh [2017-04-14 01:59:47] sleger : the trollbox is here for that :) [2017-04-14 01:59:51] elmorte : :) [2017-04-14 01:59:56] KingTuna : mark121: right shoulder .. sounds shortish [2017-04-14 02:00:07] mark121 : wud be bull for now [2017-04-14 02:00:20] 123abc : Ltc and btc bullish [2017-04-14 02:00:33] elmorte : sleger: would be easier to provide smart input when you're surrounded by smart ppl [2017-04-14 02:01:21] mark121 : grps like that are doomed from start imo [2017-04-14 02:01:48] mark121 : ends up being mostly anchors [2017-04-14 02:04:31] KingTuna : mark121: proves my theory that as of late Ltc and BTC move together positively [2017-04-14 02:04:54] mark121 : i concured that it was accurate for 1.5 days [2017-04-14 02:05:11] mark121 : so not a theory, it checked out, its fact now :p [2017-04-14 02:05:24] mark121 : u get ur phd [2017-04-14 02:05:54] KingTuna : Yes fact [2017-04-14 02:06:35] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/UH6Wl4ic/ [2017-04-14 02:07:01] mark121 : is the visual [2017-04-14 02:07:27] mark121 : the daily is even more polar [2017-04-14 02:12:11] laisee : why share your best ideas with group of traders ur competing against. smart ppl do dumb things becos ... smart [2017-04-14 02:15:30] mark121 : ya but then they are ELite [2017-04-14 02:15:40] mark121 : unlike the rest of us trollbox scum [2017-04-14 02:15:58] laisee : scum rises to the top ... ;-) [2017-04-14 02:16:20] mark121 : thats true very true [2017-04-14 02:19:06] elmorte : laisee: morning mate! You're especially wordy today [2017-04-14 02:19:51] laisee : day off. can trade with the trolls and 1%'ers [2017-04-14 02:20:14] mark121 : howd u kno i ride a harley [2017-04-14 02:20:17] laisee : did thatb thing work out ok @elmorte? [2017-04-14 02:20:40] laisee : harley != 1% [2017-04-14 02:21:10] mark121 : what bout my hells angels fully tagged vest [2017-04-14 02:21:14] elmorte : laisee: yet to be determined :/ Thanks again! [2017-04-14 02:21:42] laisee : mark121: chapter? [2017-04-14 02:21:52] mark121 : montreal [2017-04-14 02:22:02] laisee : elmorte: chur, bro [2017-04-14 02:22:32] laisee : mark121: who is president? [2017-04-14 02:23:14] mark121 : man.. used to be mom [2017-04-14 02:23:20] mark121 : so sad buchy left us [2017-04-14 02:23:44] aethlios : in 18 hours starts the 6th ltc activation period. [2017-04-14 02:23:59] mark121 : bouchy was the man [2017-04-14 02:24:27] Armis : What is going on , btc will fall or no ? Today's chart is epic especially last hour [2017-04-14 02:24:55] aguia7 : ??? 1542 usd http://preev.com/btc/usd/source:localbitcoins [2017-04-14 02:25:20] mark121 : i only know a HA, okay? i lied [2017-04-14 02:26:06] mark121 : im not an outlaw [2017-04-14 02:26:44] mark121 : laisee are u a 1% [2017-04-14 02:27:08] elmorte : aethlios: ltc what? [2017-04-14 02:27:58] laisee : I'm in the top 1% for many things. Telling porkies, for instance. [2017-04-14 02:28:19] mark121 : me 2 [2017-04-14 02:28:27] mark121 : top 1% of micro peens [2017-04-14 02:28:34] elmorte : laisee: don't know whether to believe that.... [2017-04-14 02:28:35] mark121 : top 1% of lowest IQ [2017-04-14 02:29:12] elmorte : Off to China in a couple of hours....you guys want me to pass on any message? [2017-04-14 02:29:19] laisee : elmorte: it's all true., especially the last bit. [2017-04-14 02:29:24] mark121 : du lei gwo ma [2017-04-14 02:29:38] laisee : ccb [2017-04-14 02:29:39] mark121 : pokgai [2017-04-14 02:29:55] KingTuna : aethlios: 6th what? [2017-04-14 02:30:30] mark121 : plz tell my friends, mr chan i say hello [2017-04-14 02:30:34] mark121 : friend* [2017-04-14 02:31:03] elmorte : Will do, I have him on wechat [2017-04-14 02:33:11] mark121 : pls let them know Canada is full [2017-04-14 02:33:31] mark121 : tyvm [2017-04-14 02:33:44] elmorte : hahaha [2017-04-14 02:33:50] elmorte : ^their reply [2017-04-14 02:34:16] elmorte : Canadian dolla....it's like american dolla, but cheaper...hahaha [2017-04-14 02:34:32] elmorte : ^unconcatenated reply [2017-04-14 02:34:55] mark121 : saw 30% growth in home prices in past year [2017-04-14 02:35:07] mark121 : all thanks to china fomo buying [2017-04-14 02:35:25] mark121 : in my area [2017-04-14 02:35:26] elmorte : They bought a whole city in Malaysia [2017-04-14 02:35:35] elmorte : hasn't been built yet [2017-04-14 02:36:05] elmorte : They fly buyers from China in just for that [2017-04-14 02:36:42] mark121 : china shud ban the use of automobiles [2017-04-14 02:36:56] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/WFMfdEr1wTQyc/giphy.gif [2017-04-14 02:37:27] mark121 : i nearly died twice in past year in parking lots [2017-04-14 02:38:23] mark121 : altho worst time, it was a chinese man who backed over another chinese person and didnt do anything, left the car on the guy cus he panic'd :p [2017-04-14 02:38:42] mark121 : like under the wheel [2017-04-14 02:38:57] elmorte : you gotta make sure they're dead [2017-04-14 02:39:13] elmorte : Funeral is cheaper than hospital [2017-04-14 02:40:57] aethlios : elmorte: @KingTuna SW activation period starts in 18 hours, will last 2 weeks and needs 75% of blocks to be mined to activate SW. so all miners SW and antiSW will push all power in those 2 weeks. [2017-04-14 02:41:40] elmorte : aethlios: Tq! Does BTC have activation periods too? [2017-04-14 02:41:53] aethlios : elmorte: yes [2017-04-14 02:42:32] elmorte : Thanks again :) [2017-04-14 02:45:04] ronensinger : mark121: Still there? [2017-04-14 02:45:31] aethlios : so a rally at the end of that 2 week period to 20 is possible for ltc, best will be stabilization 12.5-15 after SW for 1 year. but after SW, fomo for LN activation will start. [2017-04-14 02:46:57] ronensinger : Who's here? [2017-04-14 02:47:36] mark121 : barely bbiab [2017-04-14 02:47:51] mark121 : sup [2017-04-14 02:48:05] ronensinger : mark121: Can we chat on irc? [2017-04-14 02:48:44] mark121 : what [2017-04-14 02:48:48] mark121 : is this [2017-04-14 02:48:50] mark121 : 98'? [2017-04-14 02:48:52] elmorte : aethlios: :thumbsup: How about the downside though? [2017-04-14 02:48:57] mark121 : i kid [2017-04-14 02:49:20] ronensinger : No, so you can give me your email without posting it publicly [2017-04-14 02:49:40] aethlios : elmorte: probabilities is the magic word in trading. [2017-04-14 02:50:02] elmorte : ronensinger: it's mark121@bridgewater.com [2017-04-14 02:50:04] aethlios : nothing sure, only probabilities. [2017-04-14 02:50:22] mark121 : hehe croatian.traveler.man@gmail.com [2017-04-14 02:50:37] mark121 : its for situations like this [2017-04-14 02:50:55] aethlios : and we are looking for the most probable outcome. so upside 70% for ltc to 15-20, downside to 8 30%, for next 2 weeks. [2017-04-14 02:51:04] elmorte : mark121: tvoji su iz Hrvatske? [2017-04-14 02:51:13] mark121 : jesu [2017-04-14 02:51:16] elmorte : aethlios: cheers [2017-04-14 02:51:26] elmorte : mark121: pa fino brate [2017-04-14 02:51:40] mark121 : lepo, i ti? [2017-04-14 02:51:46] elmorte : Ne, BiH [2017-04-14 02:52:09] mark121 : close enuf [2017-04-14 02:52:12] elmorte : yup [2017-04-14 02:52:19] elmorte : Born there? [2017-04-14 02:52:26] mark121 : im a true yugo, croatian/serb/macedonian [2017-04-14 02:52:44] elmorte : sweet :) [2017-04-14 02:53:04] mark121 : just barely born there [2017-04-14 02:53:11] mark121 : but i go back alot [2017-04-14 02:53:20] mark121 : love the ladies [2017-04-14 02:53:26] elmorte : you a 90s kid? [2017-04-14 02:53:31] mark121 : love normal folk [2017-04-14 02:53:40] mark121 : no [2017-04-14 02:53:51] elmorte : ah k, you guys moved before the war [2017-04-14 02:54:13] ronensinger : mark121: I'm sending you an email [2017-04-14 02:54:24] mark121 : ya [2017-04-14 02:54:30] mark121 : ronensinger: ok [2017-04-14 02:54:41] mark121 : elmorte: my family is full of fearful ppl [2017-04-14 02:55:01] mark121 : first sense of trouble they gone lol [2017-04-14 02:55:05] elmorte : Obviously not afraid of the winter... [2017-04-14 02:55:11] mark121 : hah [2017-04-14 02:55:57] mark121 : my family was pretty integrated, grandfathers supreme court judge and govern of bank of yugo [2017-04-14 02:56:22] mark121 : grandma Tito's secretary [2017-04-14 02:56:54] mark121 : moja baka je iz hvartska :P [2017-04-14 02:57:03] ronensinger : Sent it [2017-04-14 02:57:08] ronensinger : Let me know what you think [2017-04-14 02:57:22] elmorte : Nice! [2017-04-14 02:57:32] elmorte : Getting me all yugo-nostalgic [2017-04-14 02:58:04] elmorte : My grandad was the director of public transport for Sarajevo. Also a party man... [2017-04-14 02:58:36] elmorte : as in the communist party, lol... [2017-04-14 02:58:38] mark121 : ya, i never even experienced it but even i get nostalgic [2017-04-14 02:58:39] mark121 : yea [2017-04-14 02:58:39] Sultan Pepper : Dobre den mark [2017-04-14 02:58:51] mark121 : dobar dan [2017-04-14 02:59:01] mark121 : 2 u too! [2017-04-14 02:59:30] mark121 : communist party defintiely [2017-04-14 02:59:37] ronensinger : mark121: Sent it [2017-04-14 02:59:44] Sultan Pepper : Czech, croat, it's all slavic [2017-04-14 02:59:59] mark121 : ronensinger: okdokie [2017-04-14 03:00:05] mark121 : ya [2017-04-14 03:00:06] elmorte : a party man means something entirely different out of context, heh [2017-04-14 03:00:14] mark121 : haha [2017-04-14 03:00:54] mark121 : nah i know, the judge was as party as a party man cud be [2017-04-14 03:01:38] mark121 : man, i relly could go for [2017-04-14 03:01:39] mark121 : chevape [2017-04-14 03:01:43] mark121 : Sultan Pepper: ya :) [2017-04-14 03:02:22] mark121 : bele ljuk (sp?) i chevape i hleb [2017-04-14 03:02:26] mark121 : i pivo [2017-04-14 03:02:30] elmorte : luk [2017-04-14 03:02:39] elmorte : but not beli luk, that's garlic [2017-04-14 03:02:43] mark121 : oops [2017-04-14 03:03:08] mark121 : i kno the macedonian word , cromete [2017-04-14 03:03:22] mark121 : sakkam cromete [2017-04-14 03:03:52] elmorte : yeah...I had a funny incident with a customer from there, we invoiced them for white onion (as opposed to yellow etc...it's just different types of onion), and they freaked out and called asking why the hell are you sending us garlic?? [2017-04-14 03:04:07] mark121 : Lol! [2017-04-14 03:04:20] mark121 : thats funny [2017-04-14 03:04:46] elmorte : Yeah, I don't let them live it down either :) [2017-04-14 03:05:50] mark121 : wel now we can talk shit about others infront of em [2017-04-14 03:06:12] mark121 : pitcha ti matarina sleger (joke) [2017-04-14 03:06:21] mark121 : calm down slegz :p [2017-04-14 03:07:43] mark121 : good to kno slavs in the house [2017-04-14 03:07:51] mark121 : il bbs [2017-04-14 03:07:55] elmorte : for sure [2017-04-14 03:08:06] elmorte : Yeah, I gotta finish some paperwork and the packing [2017-04-14 03:09:09] mark121 : ronensinger: are u lorestr? lol [2017-04-14 03:10:03] mark121 : bbs [2017-04-14 03:10:50] MikeHunt : elmorte: did u tell em its cuz their vampires? [2017-04-14 03:11:33] elmorte : MikeHunt: damnit, opportunity missed... [2017-04-14 03:11:44] elmorte : I should've, they called me at like 2am [2017-04-14 03:21:18] laisee : so they avoid daylight and fear garlic. sounds legit for vampires. [2017-04-14 03:41:53] Rookie : I am just a whale barnacle [2017-04-14 03:41:59] Rookie : don't mind me [2017-04-14 03:45:08] mark121 : maybe u shudnt have placed ur self over my urethra [2017-04-14 03:45:20] aethlios : ltc dash fight for 3rd place (excluding premined ripple) [2017-04-14 03:47:05] Rookie : mark121: alas, larval me was quite unaware and just ended up there [2017-04-14 03:47:27] Rookie : soz [2017-04-14 04:03:42] arbitrage101 : hallo [2017-04-14 04:04:00] arbitrage101 : dash has bad name [2017-04-14 04:04:13] arbitrage101 : but roger ver is behind it [2017-04-14 04:04:55] arbitrage101 : and ltc development team is associated with "do nothing" team [2017-04-14 04:12:20] arbitrage101 : poloniex showing most coins going up [2017-04-14 04:41:53] mark121 : come my lady come come my lady, you my butterfly, sugar, baby [2017-04-14 04:42:31] CrazySteve : /sentimnt [2017-04-14 04:42:37] CrazySteve : /sentiment [2017-04-14 04:42:40] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 53.67 / 46.33 Daily : 56.82 / 43.18 Weekly : 46.71 / 53.30 Monthly : 50.97 / 49.03``` [2017-04-14 04:42:52] mark121 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM [2017-04-14 04:44:14] mark121 : lol! reminds me of counterstrike days [2017-04-14 05:07:20] danielrusso : hey - friend told me mark cuban, guy from shark tank, said he has invested in ETH. Was that real? [2017-04-14 05:09:54] arbitrage101 : could be [2017-04-14 05:10:04] arbitrage101 : but that information is pretty useless now [2017-04-14 05:10:22] arbitrage101 : maybe he bought at cheap price [2017-04-14 05:10:33] arbitrage101 : are you going to buy after the huge run up [2017-04-14 05:21:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 398 @ 1164.5 [2017-04-14 05:36:53] mark121 : may get very bbullish [2017-04-14 05:37:34] mark121 : wel i take ti back but may long [2017-04-14 05:37:39] mark121 : in any case [2017-04-14 05:42:37] mark121 : hrm its nt very much upside but interesting fractal on 15m vs 8hr [2017-04-14 05:44:12] mark121 : hopefuly none :p [2017-04-14 05:44:14] frog : may be skewed by high volume earlier with rise on light volume since [2017-04-14 05:44:49] mark121 : the volume isnt signifcant imo [2017-04-14 05:45:03] mark121 : i mean for other things yes [2017-04-14 05:45:11] mark121 : pattern identification its key [2017-04-14 05:45:18] mark121 : can show u where one ends and other begins [2017-04-14 05:46:04] mark121 : but remember before big moves volume squeezes and is "low" but not in any kind sense related to the overall credibility of the trend [2017-04-14 05:46:41] mark121 : more so as a natural occurence in the life cycle of a market :p [2017-04-14 05:47:15] mark121 : look at thiis fractal btw [2017-04-14 05:48:54] frog : can u post chart? [2017-04-14 05:49:03] KingTuna : mark121: LTC looked a little good earlier. I bought bitmex futures. Always sucks with the expiry [2017-04-14 05:49:26] mark121 : ya im holding mine [2017-04-14 05:49:45] mark121 : chart for fractal inc [2017-04-14 05:49:48] frog : KingTuna: future will expire before start of new activation period by around 7 hours [2017-04-14 05:50:13] KingTuna : frog: up that's right [2017-04-14 05:50:16] KingTuna : yup* [2017-04-14 05:50:29] frog : annoying [2017-04-14 05:51:08] KingTuna : That's why I should just buy Polo, LTC proper. And also way more liquidity there, so easy to buy more and get in and out of trade [2017-04-14 05:51:20] frog : and better spreads [2017-04-14 05:51:26] KingTuna : As much as i love bitmex and all [2017-04-14 05:51:42] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/WiqvJsZE/ [2017-04-14 05:51:52] mark121 : it aint perfect but theres def somethin to it [2017-04-14 05:52:54] KingTuna : sloping down down down> [2017-04-14 05:53:00] mark121 : one is showing like a whole month and the other just the last day [2017-04-14 05:53:07] mark121 : incase thats lost on any1 [2017-04-14 05:54:48] mark121 : u can see that BTC is in general going to rally like craazy in the coming weeks [2017-04-14 05:55:25] mark121 : i think this is a rough look at how (inc 2 min) [2017-04-14 05:59:23] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/DLbOLr3s/ [2017-04-14 06:00:08] Makimoto : arbitrage101: why does dash have a bad name? [2017-04-14 06:01:12] frog : your low target is same as mine give or take a few poins [2017-04-14 06:02:15] mark121 : keep in mind its not meant for that (the chart) but ya its likely around there [2017-04-14 06:02:47] frog : i get it a little lower but in same ball park [2017-04-14 06:03:13] mark121 : i wudnt dev a target from this chart :p [2017-04-14 06:04:11] mark121 : il give u my target when i have it [2017-04-14 06:04:50] arbitrage101 : Makimoto: pre-mined, a few failed implementation and master node operate like ponzi [2017-04-14 06:04:51] mark121 : so we shud see decreasing volume from now until a breakout [2017-04-14 06:05:16] mark121 : a bullish breakout beyond the neckline [2017-04-14 06:05:49] mark121 : end of aprilish [2017-04-14 06:08:05] mark121 : wont be much to this upside [2017-04-14 06:08:32] frog : i think we are at top of the little run up [2017-04-14 06:09:23] frog : if it breaks up I will cover short and reassess [2017-04-14 06:09:41] mark121 : dont lol [2017-04-14 06:09:57] mark121 : its like maxium few dollars [2017-04-14 06:15:42] mark121 : it dependson where u draw the line similar to the right fractal [2017-04-14 06:15:54] mark121 : tasters choice [2017-04-14 06:16:15] frog : big buy on finex [2017-04-14 06:17:18] mark121 : im playin the long scalp [2017-04-14 06:17:35] Makimoto : arbitrage101: really. hmmm. i would love to know more. i'm more of a bitcoin guy with a few hands in ltc and eth. you got any good reads on the subject. anything would be appreciated. i'm like a spunge for that stuff [2017-04-14 06:18:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 460 @ 1190.3 [2017-04-14 06:18:07] mark121 : maybe thats onl bottom half of fractal :) [2017-04-14 06:18:18] mark121 : alts are leaking [2017-04-14 06:18:37] Clock : frog: how much? [2017-04-14 06:18:49] frog : 300k [2017-04-14 06:19:05] Clock : /rekt [2017-04-14 06:19:06] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 12 hours, 51 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150000 @ 1156.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 12 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 290000 @ 1161.9 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 12 hours, 54 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200000 @ 1164.4 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` [2017-04-14 06:20:23] Dnavid : /price [2017-04-14 06:20:24] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1185.65 (1.12%) Bitfinex : 1199.80 (1.20%) The Woodchipper : 1194.02 (1.40%) itBit : 1188.87 (0.95%) Kraken : 1192.59 (1.37%) GDAX : 1189.45 (1.40%) SLQ : 5 hours, 39 mins``` [2017-04-14 06:27:24] fulrik : Baaaaah... Kraken not filling orders b/c of errors and Bitmex terrible liquidity on ETH... [2017-04-14 06:27:52] frog : i just added to short, fingers crossed..... [2017-04-14 06:28:10] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 56693 @ 1191.4 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2017-04-14 06:28:42] mark121 : oh jebus haha so fast [2017-04-14 06:30:03] frog : lol not mine [2017-04-14 06:30:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 1192.4 [2017-04-14 06:30:23] mark121 : /sentiment [2017-04-14 06:30:26] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 21.63 / 78.37 Daily : 49.90 / 50.10 Weekly : 46.59 / 53.41 Monthly : 50.96 / 49.04``` [2017-04-14 06:31:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1193.0 [2017-04-14 06:31:31] mark121 : interesting cant rresist that long but no need to close a short less u high le [2017-04-14 06:31:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 220000 @ 1193.2 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2017-04-14 06:32:33] KingTuna : oh wow [2017-04-14 06:32:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 190 @ 0.00942 [2017-04-14 06:33:35] mark121 : so fast [2017-04-14 06:33:42] Ahhere : /niceprice [2017-04-14 06:33:50] Ahhere : /price [2017-04-14 06:33:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 1194.6 [2017-04-14 06:33:52] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion! [2017-04-14 06:33:52] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1189.98 (0.37%) Bitfinex : 1205.00 (0.43%) The Woodchipper : 1195.90 (0.16%) itBit : 1192.00 (0.26%) Kraken : 1196.00 (0.29%) GDAX : 1194.00 (0.38%) SLQ : 13 mins``` [2017-04-14 06:33:55] mark121 : gona fly up and then fly down? ll [2017-04-14 06:35:07] frog : i closed, i think it will run up for a bit [2017-04-14 06:35:26] mark121 : high lev? [2017-04-14 06:35:34] mark121 : can alway suse other contract [2017-04-14 06:36:37] mark121 : frog: silly timeto do so imo les u had to [2017-04-14 06:37:35] frog : no it was choice [2017-04-14 06:37:55] mark121 : oh were u in profit? [2017-04-14 06:38:23] frog : not important [2017-04-14 06:38:48] frog : i was short from 1214 [2017-04-14 06:39:01] mark121 : well as a little move up was called for regardless [2017-04-14 06:40:17] mark121 : (ah if u were in profit less important) [2017-04-14 06:45:05] Dnavid : mark121: fly up to 1215-1220? Or that's a stretch? [2017-04-14 06:45:22] mark121 : it could drop righ here lol [2017-04-14 06:45:31] mark121 : it is [2017-04-14 06:48:38] mark121 : its not confirmed until it commits [2017-04-14 06:49:00] frog : i think up [2017-04-14 06:49:37] Drbrule : this is the most boring market there is. desperate losers fill the charts. i cant even get anything to move enough to be worth pulling out and never coming back. bitMex is a good name. the last shit i took was a little bitmex food too. the rest was chinese. [2017-04-14 06:49:58] mark121 : huh [2017-04-14 06:50:09] Drbrule : and retards [2017-04-14 06:50:16] Drbrule : huh? [2017-04-14 06:51:16] Drbrule : pathetic. market volume is a fucking joke. and a straight up lie. [2017-04-14 06:51:23] mark121 : frog: cud be up but ur thinkiing i disagree with - this portion was in the cards for short case (up portion) [2017-04-14 06:51:26] Drbrule : fuck [2017-04-14 06:51:32] Drbrule : fuck [2017-04-14 06:52:18] mark121 : Drbrule: last 2 to 3 days good profits [2017-04-14 06:52:33] mark121 : so dont blame externals look internally [2017-04-14 06:52:42] Drbrule : cant even say #uck on this shi%%y site [2017-04-14 06:52:59] mark121 : /ban Drbrule [2017-04-14 06:52:59] trollbot : ``` Drbrule has been banned``` [2017-04-14 06:53:11] Drbrule : ill look in your wife internally [2017-04-14 06:53:24] Drbrule : good [2017-04-14 06:53:43] mark121 : il remove it just figured a rage attack was coming [2017-04-14 06:54:35] Drbrule : fuggin queens [2017-04-14 06:55:11] frog : mark121: all good, if I get wrong occasionally not end of world, always another trade [2017-04-14 06:57:05] mark121 : ofcourse thats not the issue [2017-04-14 06:58:52] mark121 : jus risk exposure that is the diff [2017-04-14 07:03:32] mark121 : long is risk-on , gota babysit it or get destroyed [2017-04-14 07:04:03] rugu : mark121: So how much % of your bankroll do you risk per trade [2017-04-14 07:05:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.00002970 [2017-04-14 07:05:11] mark121 : texbook wud suggest like 1 to 3% and even that is laot [2017-04-14 07:05:18] mark121 : 3 is [2017-04-14 07:05:41] mark121 : but i kinda use a system based on my principle investment vs trading with my profits [2017-04-14 07:06:10] rugu : which is like? [2017-04-14 07:06:12] rugu : /rekt [2017-04-14 07:06:12] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 34 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 220000 @ 1193.2 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 13 hours, 38 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150000 @ 1156.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 13 hours, 39 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 290000 @ 1161.9 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` [2017-04-14 07:06:35] mark121 : i have set amount i started with margin crypto [2017-04-14 07:06:48] mark121 : i expose myself based on certainty [2017-04-14 07:06:51] rugu : does anyone here go for the full 100x leverage on xbtusd? [2017-04-14 07:07:01] mark121 : very difficult to do affecrtlt [2017-04-14 07:07:12] mark121 : but can be done [2017-04-14 07:07:29] mark121 : i digress but to ur Q [2017-04-14 07:07:37] mark121 : ETF short i went all in [2017-04-14 07:07:47] mark121 : across 4 exchanges [2017-04-14 07:07:53] rugu : wow [2017-04-14 07:08:06] plappa : im getting rekt in eth [2017-04-14 07:08:07] mark121 : that was a truely rare trade [2017-04-14 07:08:09] plappa : also never shorting btc again [2017-04-14 07:08:43] mark121 : once every 3 or 4 years does a trade like that come along [2017-04-14 07:08:54] plappa : were you for sure it was gonna get denied? [2017-04-14 07:08:58] mark121 : yes [2017-04-14 07:09:09] mark121 : i even said it in this trollbox [2017-04-14 07:09:18] mark121 : but i wasnt using it much [2017-04-14 07:09:18] plappa : u think btc is gonna dump here [2017-04-14 07:09:27] mark121 : so lacked crediblity i guess lol [2017-04-14 07:09:28] plappa : i'm not buying this pump [2017-04-14 07:09:35] mark121 : yes it wil dump [2017-04-14 07:09:42] plappa : lacking volume [2017-04-14 07:09:43] plappa : idk [2017-04-14 07:09:51] mark121 : sooner or later, ritght now chart shows a top on the 5 min [2017-04-14 07:10:08] mark121 : but 5 min can change [2017-04-14 07:10:12] mark121 : jus fast lol [2017-04-14 07:10:14] rugu : there is no solid reason for a dump, its recovered more or less after that tweet and panic dump yesterday [2017-04-14 07:10:24] mark121 : uh [2017-04-14 07:11:00] plappa : i dunno if the tweet was the dump reasoning [2017-04-14 07:11:00] plappa : maybe [2017-04-14 07:11:07] mark121 : no [2017-04-14 07:11:11] mark121 : it was technicall [2017-04-14 07:11:14] plappa : i dont think so either [2017-04-14 07:11:19] rugu : tweet caused a dump and then 400k worth of longs got liquidated on bitmex [2017-04-14 07:11:58] rugu : that kind of dump in 15min should be tweet realted. If it was over 30-45min , i can understand if it was technical [2017-04-14 07:12:04] mark121 : basic TA wud suggest that hte daily has more to drop and so therews no reason to be bullish beyond a tiny up portion if that [2017-04-14 07:12:21] mark121 : rugu: it was technical, i called it 3 days ahead of time [2017-04-14 07:13:01] mark121 : id suggest its ur outlook of the market, or how it functions [2017-04-14 07:13:08] mark121 : thats muddyin the water [2017-04-14 07:13:29] mark121 : remember u r a retail trader, the market is out to get u [2017-04-14 07:13:43] KingTuna : I may hold LTC for a bit.. I reckon it has more to run. Perhaps 0.012.. Perhaps a little news would push it [2017-04-14 07:13:54] KingTuna : May be a good hold over my vacay [2017-04-14 07:14:06] KingTuna : Not that I hold things for long [2017-04-14 07:14:14] mark121 : no reason to sllow dump [2017-04-14 07:14:23] mark121 : jus givesppl time to get short [2017-04-14 07:14:36] KingTuna : Just a quick dump [2017-04-14 07:14:40] KingTuna : But hope not.. [2017-04-14 07:14:51] mark121 : sory not to u tuna [2017-04-14 07:15:09] mark121 : LTC im stil long [2017-04-14 07:15:29] mark121 : markets are manipulated backward and forward @rugu [2017-04-14 07:15:33] KingTuna : Polo is max 3x leverage margin trade right? [2017-04-14 07:15:36] mark121 : 2.5 [2017-04-14 07:15:41] mark121 : i think [2017-04-14 07:15:52] KingTuna : Ah that's why I kind of like it Bitmex [2017-04-14 07:16:02] KingTuna : Futures more fomo ... but riskier = reward [2017-04-14 07:16:39] mark121 : daily candle jus went dark red [2017-04-14 07:17:29] mark121 : indicator kinda changes shade of candles based on volume action [2017-04-14 07:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 30 @ 0.04078 [2017-04-14 07:17:48] mark121 : dark red is the worst [2017-04-14 07:17:58] KingTuna : LTC? [2017-04-14 07:18:04] mark121 : btc [2017-04-14 07:18:08] KingTuna : right lol [2017-04-14 07:18:15] mark121 : hehe sry [2017-04-14 07:18:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 6 @ 0.04056 [2017-04-14 07:19:22] mark121 : dashes low price is a bullish indicator frobtc still [2017-04-14 07:19:28] mark121 : lower*