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[2017-04-14 00:55:56] mark121 : use a bullshit email
[2017-04-14 00:56:01] mark121 : if ur worried
[2017-04-14 00:56:27] ronensinger : Ahhere: IRC chat?
[2017-04-14 00:56:33] Ahhere : Drunk now going asleep chat again guy
[2017-04-14 00:56:34] mark121 : ill say it for u ronen
[2017-04-14 00:56:47] mark121 : "my bots can see hidden orders"
[2017-04-14 00:56:55] ronensinger : Ahhere: I have a good proposal for you, but I'll talk to you later
[2017-04-14 00:57:15] Ahhere : ronensinger: cool goodnight guise
[2017-04-14 00:57:22] ronensinger : mark121: Lol
[2017-04-14 00:57:27] sleger : looks like you have proposals for everyone
[2017-04-14 00:57:33] ronensinger : I was asking at 1179.9 earlier today
[2017-04-14 00:57:43] ronensinger : And someone was trading at 1179.8 but there was no ask
[2017-04-14 00:57:50] ronensinger : So I realized it was a hidden order
[2017-04-14 00:58:03] ronensinger : Pretty easy to spot
[2017-04-14 00:58:22] mark121 : sometimes yea
[2017-04-14 00:58:24] hmmmYea : congrats on the solve, columbo
[2017-04-14 00:58:31] mark121 : lol!
[2017-04-14 00:59:06] ronensinger : Idk why people use hidden orders at bitmex
[2017-04-14 00:59:21] ronensinger : It makes sense to use them at finex, but not here
[2017-04-14 01:01:35] ronensinger : Spreads are large now
[2017-04-14 01:02:54] ronensinger : GOodnight
[2017-04-14 01:03:02] mark121 : because bots dont auto out bid hidden orders
[2017-04-14 01:03:15] mark121 : as often anyhow
[2017-04-14 01:03:57] mark121 : when MM are getin rekt it seems they resorted to some mega improbable shiet
[2017-04-14 01:04:54] mark121 : then it doenst matter as they treat them as visible orders - specially orders of like 25K +
[2017-04-14 01:07:14] ronensinger : mark121: U long or short?
[2017-04-14 01:07:57] mark121 : looks like it going up
[2017-04-14 01:08:04] ronensinger : So long?
[2017-04-14 01:08:12] mark121 : no
[2017-04-14 01:08:19] mark121 : short
[2017-04-14 01:08:27] ronensinger : mark121: How many?
[2017-04-14 01:08:58] sleger : well he is a big trader at bridgewater
[2017-04-14 01:09:05] mark121 : a small amount
[2017-04-14 01:09:05] sleger : so probably at least 1000
[2017-04-14 01:09:14] ronensinger : Lmao
[2017-04-14 01:09:25] ronensinger : Whats a fucking small amount
[2017-04-14 01:09:39] mark121 : why do u ask lol
[2017-04-14 01:09:50] mark121 : Dear sleger, at every turn you seem to say things that make it harder and harder to believe u are a successful person - your reaction since I originally questioned your level of expertise and the degree of desperation you exhibit non-stop (to I assume regain your own credibility by trying to hurt mine) is extremely self revealing and somehow even this eludes you...
[2017-04-14 01:09:58] mark121 : its scary to see you so sure about my place of work, or even who I actualy am, when of course you know only what I want you to know and not a detail more - You can't win a fight you aren't qualified to enter. So consider this my response to all previous, present, and futures posts related to your bruised ego...
[2017-04-14 01:10:21] mark121 : *mic drop*
[2017-04-14 01:10:36] mark121 : 100k
[2017-04-14 01:10:52] ronensinger : Not bad...
[2017-04-14 01:10:55] sleger : its not that much
[2017-04-14 01:10:58] ronensinger : On what leverage
[2017-04-14 01:11:00] sleger : screenshot or it didnt happen
[2017-04-14 01:11:04] sleger : just like your work
[2017-04-14 01:11:14] ronensinger : Sleger I wanna see one of your screenshots
[2017-04-14 01:11:35] sleger : ive posted more than enough, everyone around here that is credible knows me
[2017-04-14 01:11:47] ronensinger : I never said I doubted you
[2017-04-14 01:11:49] mark121 : lmao
[2017-04-14 01:11:56] ronensinger : I just wanna see how welthy you are, sweetie...
[2017-04-14 01:12:02] ronensinger : **wealthy
[2017-04-14 01:12:07] hmmmYea : mark121 is just bitter bc we all found his plenty of fish profile
[2017-04-14 01:12:22] mark121 : even sleger realized it wasnt marks profile
[2017-04-14 01:12:31] ronensinger : lmfao
[2017-04-14 01:12:38] mark121 : like "wayn.com"
[2017-04-14 01:12:38] sleger : the only thing that i prove is that i own at least 4 digits (1000) btc
[2017-04-14 01:12:42] sleger : the rest doesnt matter
[2017-04-14 01:12:52] mark121 : your behavior says it all my friend
[2017-04-14 01:13:24] mark121 : but maybe i didnt make mysel clear, u r done. finito. no longer worthy of a response
[2017-04-14 01:13:45] sleger : just like the email to your work address that bounced ? *no answer*
[2017-04-14 01:13:58] ronensinger : He gave a work address?
[2017-04-14 01:14:06] mark121 : lol nope
[2017-04-14 01:14:13] sleger : he said he works at a 100bn$ hedge fund
[2017-04-14 01:14:15] mark121 : he guessed a place and hes totaly off
[2017-04-14 01:14:17] sleger : but there is only one
[2017-04-14 01:14:21] sleger : like he said himself
[2017-04-14 01:14:28] ronensinger : mark121: Send a screenshot of the 100k and I'll believe you
[2017-04-14 01:14:29] sleger : then i found him
[2017-04-14 01:14:45] sleger : and its easy to find the email once you have all that if he actually worked there
[2017-04-14 01:14:47] sleger : but he doesnt
[2017-04-14 01:14:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 3 @ 0.04214
[2017-04-14 01:14:55] ronensinger : Sleger doxxes the shit outta people
[2017-04-14 01:15:03] sleger : 100k is nothing, you need 1btc to take that position
[2017-04-14 01:15:07] ronensinger : Gave me a fucking panic atackk
[2017-04-14 01:15:09] mark121 : exactly
[2017-04-14 01:15:17] cg : ya, what is special about 100k
[2017-04-14 01:15:27] mark121 : its scary to see you so sure about my place of work, or even who I actualy am, when of course you know only what I want you to know and not a detail more - You can't win a fight you aren't qualified to enter. So consider this my response to all previous, present, and futures posts related to your bruised ego... mic drop
[2017-04-14 01:15:33] ronensinger : sleger: No one opens a 100k position with 1btc uless they are retarded
[2017-04-14 01:15:44] mark121 : sleger: seems u missed it, for the 100th time
[2017-04-14 01:15:46] sleger : most people around here do
[2017-04-14 01:15:58] sleger : please mark K stop embarassing yourself
[2017-04-14 01:15:59] ronensinger : sleger: THats why the liquidation fund has 190 btc lmfao
[2017-04-14 01:16:10] cg : true that
[2017-04-14 01:16:13] mark121 : i wish u happiness in your life of insecurity my friend, i pity you sleger
[2017-04-14 01:16:29] mark121 : i really do
[2017-04-14 01:16:38] ronensinger : mark121: Let's see a screenshot of that 100k position
[2017-04-14 01:16:40] mark121 : fact of matter is, u post nothing of value
[2017-04-14 01:16:43] ronensinger : RIght now, I believe sleger
[2017-04-14 01:17:28] mark121 : than u are not as bright as i thought
[2017-04-14 01:17:33] mark121 : :p
[2017-04-14 01:17:41] cg : you know you can easily fake screenshots right?
[2017-04-14 01:17:51] sleger : mark121: dude, WHO believes you ? noone
[2017-04-14 01:17:55] ronensinger : cg: I'm shocked to hear that
[2017-04-14 01:17:57] sleger : cg: i do he doesnt
[2017-04-14 01:18:15] sleger : most people cant fake it thats why i ask
[2017-04-14 01:18:16] mark121 : sleger u dont even realize how weak u make urself look
[2017-04-14 01:18:23] mark121 : u r sub par
[2017-04-14 01:18:25] sleger : hmmm no
[2017-04-14 01:18:32] sleger : nobody believes that sorry
[2017-04-14 01:18:37] ronensinger : Sleger, put your username on the leaderboard
[2017-04-14 01:18:38] mark121 : every1 does
[2017-04-14 01:18:49] ronensinger : That'll end this right here right now
[2017-04-14 01:18:52] mark121 : if they dont, they are being nice
[2017-04-14 01:19:02] ripcord : mark121: please stfu
[2017-04-14 01:19:02] sleger : every1 is nice then
[2017-04-14 01:19:09] mark121 : ripcord: LOL
[2017-04-14 01:19:10] Sultan Pepper : ronensinger: *rap sirens* BRRRR BRRRRR BRRRRRRRR
[2017-04-14 01:19:26] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: LMFAO
[2017-04-14 01:20:33] Sultan Pepper : WHERES BTCDJS?
[2017-04-14 01:20:42] sleger : ronensinger: I am not on the leaderboard anymore. I run big positions cross exchanges maturity etc, I had (like i mentioned here many times) a HUGE position long quaterlies at 0kc when they had a 200$ discount so to partially offset it I had a large short here
[2017-04-14 01:20:51] sleger : price went up, my realized here was large <0
[2017-04-14 01:20:54] Sultan Pepper : sorry 'bout the caps. He ded?
[2017-04-14 01:21:03] mark121 : he around once ina while
[2017-04-14 01:21:07] mark121 : 2 wekes ago mayb
[2017-04-14 01:21:17] bigpapa : sleger
[2017-04-14 01:21:19] ronensinger : sleger: Why would you trade at okc0in
[2017-04-14 01:21:24] bigpapa : who is a trader at bridgewater
[2017-04-14 01:21:30] mark121 : no1 lol
[2017-04-14 01:21:30] ronensinger : Are you off your rocker?
[2017-04-14 01:21:32] sleger : because they had a 200$ discount on the quaterlies
[2017-04-14 01:21:42] ronensinger : I wouldn't trust them with crap
[2017-04-14 01:21:46] sleger : i made a shiton when the discount disappeared
[2017-04-14 01:21:53] ronensinger : Withdrew all my money in January
[2017-04-14 01:21:55] sleger : rullwull had the same trade he made a lot too
[2017-04-14 01:22:18] sleger : I had almost 10k contracts (100$ each)
[2017-04-14 01:22:39] ronensinger : I wouldn't touch them with a 100ft rusty ass pole
[2017-04-14 01:22:47] sleger : i withdrew everything after
[2017-04-14 01:22:52] sleger : i have 0 left there
[2017-04-14 01:23:08] sleger : but it was worth it, short term trade, completely mispriced
[2017-04-14 01:23:14] ronensinger : They trade on their own exchange
[2017-04-14 01:23:19] ronensinger : CAn never trust the CHinese...
[2017-04-14 01:23:39] sleger : my biggest trade, which i announced here was to go super long ethusd few months back when it was 10$
[2017-04-14 01:23:42] sleger : its 50$ now
[2017-04-14 01:23:43] j8 : i took that trade also, but man it could have gone bad. there's no way to margin it safely
[2017-04-14 01:23:53] sleger : made 7 figures profit on that
[2017-04-14 01:23:59] mark121 : lmao
[2017-04-14 01:24:23] ronensinger : My short is getting toasted
[2017-04-14 01:24:23] sleger : j8: I disagree, you only needed 20% collateral if you could add quickly
[2017-04-14 01:24:35] sleger : totally worth the risk
[2017-04-14 01:24:36] mark121 : ever heaard of a life coach ? :D
[2017-04-14 01:24:36] ronensinger : sleger: **slingshot
[2017-04-14 01:24:48] bigpapa : ok
[2017-04-14 01:24:50] sleger : mark121: what you "lmao" dummy ?
[2017-04-14 01:24:52] ronensinger : I did that on USDMXN the night trump won
[2017-04-14 01:24:57] bigpapa : who the fuck would be in here chatting if they made 7 figures
[2017-04-14 01:25:03] bigpapa : f u c k
[2017-04-14 01:25:04] mark121 : ^^^
[2017-04-14 01:25:19] bigpapa : come on bro
[2017-04-14 01:25:21] sleger : bigpapa: cant live long on 7 figures
[2017-04-14 01:25:23] mark121 : go buy some friends
[2017-04-14 01:25:34] bigpapa : haha
[2017-04-14 01:25:34] sleger : i make 7 figures yearly with my day job
[2017-04-14 01:25:42] j8 : well that quarterly could have gone to 500 or 300, who knows, it was totally disconnected from reality, the premium alone dropped 20% in a couple hours
[2017-04-14 01:25:43] sleger : that doesnt buy you that much
[2017-04-14 01:25:50] bigpapa : 7 figures
[2017-04-14 01:25:53] bigpapa : buys you a lot
[2017-04-14 01:26:00] mark121 : how much can ramen noodle for a party of 1 x 365 + internet costs + 1 room apt rent in parents basement run a person?
[2017-04-14 01:26:02] sleger : j8: agree, I actually got liq once, and transfered and reentered
[2017-04-14 01:26:04] ronensinger : The level of autism here is too much for me
[2017-04-14 01:26:07] sleger : bigpapa: not in big cities
[2017-04-14 01:26:17] ronensinger : Adios
[2017-04-14 01:26:20] bigpapa : hahaha
[2017-04-14 01:26:24] bigpapa : the level of autism
[2017-04-14 01:26:25] bigpapa : haha
[2017-04-14 01:26:26] mark121 : lool
[2017-04-14 01:26:39] bigpapa : i love that line
[2017-04-14 01:26:53] sleger : my ex boss makes 50m a year he still works 8-7pm
[2017-04-14 01:27:04] bigpapa : which fund did you work at
[2017-04-14 01:27:16] sleger : i dont see how what you make should make you stop doing what you were doing
[2017-04-14 01:27:31] bigpapa : i think you can make a lot of money trading
[2017-04-14 01:27:35] sleger : bigpapa: obviously that world is not that big, so i am not going to say
[2017-04-14 01:27:43] mark121 : haha
[2017-04-14 01:27:51] sleger : bigpapa: i run a HFT operation
[2017-04-14 01:27:58] ronensinger : sleger: I call bullshit
[2017-04-14 01:28:00] mark121 : u r such a phony little shit
[2017-04-14 01:28:02] mark121 : yep
[2017-04-14 01:28:03] ronensinger : No way you run HFT
[2017-04-14 01:28:12] sleger : ronensinger: why not ?
[2017-04-14 01:28:20] mark121 : cus u dumb lol
[2017-04-14 01:28:30] mark121 : sorry but true
[2017-04-14 01:28:35] ronensinger : sleger: No one who ran HFT would say they did it
[2017-04-14 01:28:42] ronensinger : If i had a fu c king gold mine
[2017-04-14 01:28:43] sleger : i run fx mm in a prop shop
[2017-04-14 01:28:45] bigpapa : which exchange are you trading HFT
[2017-04-14 01:28:50] ronensinger : Would I tell anyone?
[2017-04-14 01:28:52] ronensinger : Obviously not
[2017-04-14 01:28:53] cg : 1m+ a year and you trade bitcoin on shady exchanges? why dont you invest in startups etc?
[2017-04-14 01:28:56] bigpapa : are you trading cash or futures
[2017-04-14 01:29:03] ronensinger : Who MM's forex
[2017-04-14 01:29:07] ronensinger : Absolute bs
[2017-04-14 01:29:21] mark121 : hahah
[2017-04-14 01:29:21] sleger : cg: i also do that, but very very little, it doesnt return that much TBH, real estate is better
[2017-04-14 01:29:27] sleger : ronensinger: all prop shops do
[2017-04-14 01:29:36] cg : I see
[2017-04-14 01:29:38] sleger : i trade on ebs, reuters, currenex, hotspot, fastmatch, fxall
[2017-04-14 01:29:40] mark121 : this is why hes so crazy about "ousting" me
[2017-04-14 01:29:41] sleger : all fx ecns
[2017-04-14 01:29:48] mark121 : cus i called his BS
[2017-04-14 01:29:58] sleger : mark121: u didnt call anything, i called your bs
[2017-04-14 01:30:00] sleger : liar
[2017-04-14 01:30:02] mark121 : lmao
[2017-04-14 01:30:18] mark121 : u lack basic basic knowledge
[2017-04-14 01:30:20] sleger : https://www.facebook.com/mark.kantardziski
[2017-04-14 01:30:30] mark121 : again.. u dont realize it do u
[2017-04-14 01:30:32] sleger : 20yo joke
[2017-04-14 01:30:41] mark121 : why do i refer to mark in third person?
[2017-04-14 01:30:47] ronensinger : sleger: BS
[2017-04-14 01:30:49] mark121 : common sherlock
[2017-04-14 01:30:58] bigpapa : whose facebook page is that
[2017-04-14 01:30:59] ronensinger : You can only make money trading interbank
[2017-04-14 01:31:01] sleger : ronensinger: why u think so ?
[2017-04-14 01:31:04] sleger : bigpapa: mark121
[2017-04-14 01:31:10] ronensinger : FX is the toughest thing to MM
[2017-04-14 01:31:15] sleger : ronensinger: ebs, reuters is interbank dummy
[2017-04-14 01:31:24] mark121 : bigpapa: lol (hes slow)
[2017-04-14 01:31:26] sleger : look at the list again
[2017-04-14 01:31:46] mark121 : sleger, what kind of person makin bank like that
[2017-04-14 01:31:48] ronensinger : No way you can MM better than the banks
[2017-04-14 01:31:48] bigpapa : let me ask a better question why are you trying to prove something to us sleger
[2017-04-14 01:32:00] mark121 : is so fuckin insecure, and so sad
[2017-04-14 01:32:10] mark121 : "im the god of the trolbox"
[2017-04-14 01:32:10] sleger : ronensinger: banks are big mm because they have inventory to offset, but most hf firms are much better
[2017-04-14 01:32:21] sleger : bigpapa: why not
[2017-04-14 01:32:28] mark121 : bigpapa: YES
[2017-04-14 01:32:34] ronensinger : sleger: Name your firm
[2017-04-14 01:32:36] bigpapa : I mean if i had an assload of money i wouldn't be sitting in here
[2017-04-14 01:32:44] mark121 : yep yep
[2017-04-14 01:32:48] sleger : ronensinger: ofc not
[2017-04-14 01:32:54] bigpapa : i would be on vaation
[2017-04-14 01:32:56] micmix : most good hft shops do fx as well
[2017-04-14 01:32:57] bigpapa : vacation
[2017-04-14 01:33:01] sleger : how many people run hft in 1 firm ?
[2017-04-14 01:33:09] bigpapa : FX is a joke
[2017-04-14 01:33:11] hmmmYea : ronensinger: banks arent the best mm's
[2017-04-14 01:33:16] hmmmYea : everyone knows that
[2017-04-14 01:33:22] alejandromasari : time to liquidate the shorts
[2017-04-14 01:33:23] mark121 : huh
[2017-04-14 01:33:24] ronensinger : bigpapa: I trade FX, and its honestly the most shit market
[2017-04-14 01:33:24] sleger : tower, jump, hrt, virtu, citadel all do fx mm
[2017-04-14 01:33:37] ronensinger : sleger: Yeah, and you're telling me you do better than them
[2017-04-14 01:33:38] bigpapa : I used to work for a canadian bank
[2017-04-14 01:33:40] sleger : hmmmYea: banks are the worst hft that make money
[2017-04-14 01:33:45] bigpapa : on an FX Desk
[2017-04-14 01:33:48] bigpapa : in Toronto
[2017-04-14 01:33:48] alejandromasari : I ordered a REKTAUSORUS ON ALL SHORTS
[2017-04-14 01:33:58] ronensinger : bigpapa: Do you still trade?
[2017-04-14 01:34:04] sleger : ronensinger: no i didnt say that, i said i run hft for a hf firm, maybe its part of those
[2017-04-14 01:34:08] bigpapa : not F
[2017-04-14 01:34:12] bigpapa : err FX
[2017-04-14 01:34:19] bigpapa : most manipulated market in the world
[2017-04-14 01:34:26] ronensinger : bigpapa: Damn right
[2017-04-14 01:34:36] ronensinger : I wish there was a central fx exchange
[2017-04-14 01:34:41] mark121 : sleger: who wud hire u for anything?
[2017-04-14 01:34:53] ronensinger : lmax.com is pretty solid tho
[2017-04-14 01:34:54] bigpapa : well most people don't even trade on the actual currency
[2017-04-14 01:34:57] sleger : someone who wants to make money dummy @mark121
[2017-04-14 01:35:03] sleger : ronensinger: its a small retail mostly exchang
[2017-04-14 01:35:07] sleger : i trade there too
[2017-04-14 01:35:10] bigpapa : they are suually trading on some type of 3rd party system
[2017-04-14 01:35:13] ronensinger : sleger
[2017-04-14 01:35:14] mark121 : sleger: u are so desperate to convince us that u are important -- like i cant imagine what u actually must be like
[2017-04-14 01:35:21] ronensinger : you say you trade everywhere
[2017-04-14 01:35:24] ronensinger : jesus christ
[2017-04-14 01:35:25] ronensinger : ib
[2017-04-14 01:35:26] sleger : but its nothing like interbank @ronensinger
[2017-04-14 01:35:30] ronensinger : lmax
[2017-04-14 01:35:34] ronensinger : currrenex
[2017-04-14 01:35:35] mark121 : a poop collector who travels n the back of garbage trucks
[2017-04-14 01:35:35] sleger : ronensinger: no ib is my personal trading
[2017-04-14 01:35:36] ronensinger : integral
[2017-04-14 01:35:40] ronensinger : for fucks sake
[2017-04-14 01:35:44] sleger : integral yes i make fx there
[2017-04-14 01:35:55] ronensinger : then you're doing a terrible job there
[2017-04-14 01:35:56] bigpapa : wait
[2017-04-14 01:35:57] sleger : of course when you run hft mm operation in fx you trade in most places
[2017-04-14 01:36:00] ronensinger : the spreads at intergral suck
[2017-04-14 01:36:01] bigpapa : who trades on currenex
[2017-04-14 01:36:13] mark121 : u see sleger, karmas a bitch
[2017-04-14 01:36:25] ronensinger : even ib has tighter spreads than currenex
[2017-04-14 01:36:43] bigpapa : i wouldn't trade on any of that shit now
[2017-04-14 01:36:46] sleger : bigpapa: currenex is the largest non interbank institutional exchange, they do 60bn per day on their anonymous platform and much more on their whitelabels
[2017-04-14 01:36:46] bigpapa : total joke show
[2017-04-14 01:37:00] sleger : of course, currenex is not for retail
[2017-04-14 01:37:01] bigpapa : i know who currenex is
[2017-04-14 01:37:06] sleger : you dont have access to the other stuff
[2017-04-14 01:37:19] bigpapa : ICAP
[2017-04-14 01:37:21] sleger : its the biggest ECN (that is not interbank like ebs or reuters)
[2017-04-14 01:37:22] bigpapa : Currenex
[2017-04-14 01:37:24] sleger : icap is ebs
[2017-04-14 01:37:30] ronensinger : sleger: I might get started there then
[2017-04-14 01:37:34] ronensinger : 0.7 spread on EURUSD
[2017-04-14 01:37:42] ronensinger : Obviously the MM ihas no competition
[2017-04-14 01:37:47] sleger : lmax will show you 0.2 id you are a retail
[2017-04-14 01:37:56] ronensinger : IB has 0.2 EURUSD
[2017-04-14 01:37:59] sleger : the flow is not the same on cnx hence the spreads are wider
[2017-04-14 01:38:08] sleger : you guys dont understand anything about this business
[2017-04-14 01:38:09] ronensinger : Perfect for a MM like me
[2017-04-14 01:38:23] sleger : ib lmax etc is retail flow => nice flow, mm show tight spreads
[2017-04-14 01:38:32] hmmmYea : sleger: i have a really good strategy for trading the fix... but other than that im nood at f
[2017-04-14 01:38:38] sleger : currenex hotspot etc is for bigger guys, tough flow => wide spreads
[2017-04-14 01:38:42] hmmmYea : *im no good at fx
[2017-04-14 01:38:55] bigpapa : I used Trading Technologies
[2017-04-14 01:39:04] bigpapa : for futures trading
[2017-04-14 01:39:32] ronensinger : sleger: What are currenex's comissions?
[2017-04-14 01:39:51] sleger : ronensinger: it depends
[2017-04-14 01:40:02] sleger : on your volume, negotiation etc
[2017-04-14 01:40:20] ronensinger : Like 0.1 pips?
[2017-04-14 01:40:30] sleger : typical ecn fees for high volume guys (1 bn per day) is 2-3$/m
[2017-04-14 01:40:47] ronensinger : Cheap
[2017-04-14 01:40:52] sleger : 0.1pip is 10$/m nobody pays that
[2017-04-14 01:40:55] sleger : except retail
[2017-04-14 01:41:02] ronensinger : Lmfao
[2017-04-14 01:41:15] ronensinger : Why doesn't someone MM and hedge on IB
[2017-04-14 01:41:26] sleger : its not that simple
[2017-04-14 01:41:27] ronensinger : IB quotes 0.2 and Currenex is 0.7
[2017-04-14 01:41:33] sleger : there are lots of things you dont understan
[2017-04-14 01:41:36] sleger : you cant do that
[2017-04-14 01:41:40] ronensinger : sleger: Bet
[2017-04-14 01:41:49] sleger : ?
[2017-04-14 01:42:14] sleger : there are many reasons why you cant
[2017-04-14 01:42:20] sleger : just one is something called last look
[2017-04-14 01:42:24] sleger : you can google it
[2017-04-14 01:42:31] sleger : anyways, i think i prove my point
[2017-04-14 01:43:03] sleger : i trade a few bn $ of volume per day of fx (meaning somewhere btw 1 and 100)
[2017-04-14 01:43:33] sleger : and it is not a computer seating at home, its colocation, cross-connects etc
[2017-04-14 01:43:47] micmix : ronensinger: you said there is too much competition for MMs here, do you think FX is easier?
[2017-04-14 01:44:59] mark121 : Stop googling the answer
[2017-04-14 01:45:03] sleger : fx is much harder and the barrier for entry is infinitely higher
[2017-04-14 01:45:07] mark121 : clearly its NO!
[2017-04-14 01:46:03] micmix : sleger: of course, there is no comparision
[2017-04-14 01:46:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 61 @ 0.04187
[2017-04-14 01:46:26] sleger : micmix: hey you have an email ? we have a slack group for the smart people among us
[2017-04-14 01:47:11] mark121 : but you are in it
[2017-04-14 01:47:39] sleger : mark, you said 5 times you would ignore me and stop talking to me, please stick to it
[2017-04-14 01:47:42] mark121 : so far uve exhibited internship level knowledge one cud learn in a few weeks
[2017-04-14 01:47:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1185.7
[2017-04-14 01:47:57] micmix : sleger: send an invite to info@cryptoiq.io
[2017-04-14 01:48:38] sleger : done
[2017-04-14 01:48:44] micmix : thanks
[2017-04-14 01:50:49] mark121 : i said i wont reply! :D
[2017-04-14 01:51:26] mark121 : but if ur tame i shall be glad to leave ya alone
[2017-04-14 01:51:41] mark121 : deal!
[2017-04-14 01:53:07] elmorte : morning!
[2017-04-14 01:53:17] mark121 : mornin dude
[2017-04-14 01:55:00] 123abc : Btc still being bought up
[2017-04-14 01:55:26] KingTuna : Anyone wanna put dibs on how long this bubble will last ?
[2017-04-14 01:55:41] mark121 : which bubble
[2017-04-14 01:56:02] 123abc : Eth dipping
[2017-04-14 01:56:04] mark121 : bubble trouble 1 or 2
[2017-04-14 01:56:07] elmorte : sleger: how smart does one have to be?
[2017-04-14 01:56:19] mark121 : just less smart than him
[2017-04-14 01:56:21] mark121 : oops
[2017-04-14 01:56:27] mark121 : srry reflex
[2017-04-14 01:56:30] cg : IMO we are very undervalued
[2017-04-14 01:56:35] cg : shorts in finex higher than longs
[2017-04-14 01:57:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 138 @ 0.04138
[2017-04-14 01:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 60 @ 0.04123
[2017-04-14 01:58:28] mark121 : if we break resistance cud be the beginnin of a right shoulder
[2017-04-14 01:58:31] KingTuna : I feel LTC about to surge past 0.01 to new 'recent' ATH
[2017-04-14 01:58:33] sleger : elmorte: one needs to either be a whale, or find / share some interesting trade arbs, or good track record etc... basically bring value to the group and not just listen and use the info
[2017-04-14 01:59:36] elmorte : sleger: what about witty humour? does that count?
[2017-04-14 01:59:46] mark121 : KingTuna: im sitl long heh
[2017-04-14 01:59:47] sleger : the trollbox is here for that :)
[2017-04-14 01:59:51] elmorte : :)
[2017-04-14 01:59:56] KingTuna : mark121: right shoulder .. sounds shortish
[2017-04-14 02:00:07] mark121 : wud be bull for now
[2017-04-14 02:00:20] 123abc : Ltc and btc bullish
[2017-04-14 02:00:33] elmorte : sleger: would be easier to provide smart input when you're surrounded by smart ppl
[2017-04-14 02:01:21] mark121 : grps like that are doomed from start imo
[2017-04-14 02:01:48] mark121 : ends up being mostly anchors
[2017-04-14 02:04:31] KingTuna : mark121: proves my theory that as of late Ltc and BTC move together positively
[2017-04-14 02:04:54] mark121 : i concured that it was accurate for 1.5 days
[2017-04-14 02:05:11] mark121 : so not a theory, it checked out, its fact now :p
[2017-04-14 02:05:24] mark121 : u get ur phd
[2017-04-14 02:05:54] KingTuna : Yes fact
[2017-04-14 02:06:35] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/UH6Wl4ic/
[2017-04-14 02:07:01] mark121 : is the visual
[2017-04-14 02:07:27] mark121 : the daily is even more polar
[2017-04-14 02:12:11] laisee : why share your best ideas with group of traders ur competing against. smart ppl do dumb things becos ... smart
[2017-04-14 02:15:30] mark121 : ya but then they are ELite
[2017-04-14 02:15:40] mark121 : unlike the rest of us trollbox scum
[2017-04-14 02:15:58] laisee : scum rises to the top ... ;-)
[2017-04-14 02:16:20] mark121 : thats true very true
[2017-04-14 02:19:06] elmorte : laisee: morning mate! You're especially wordy today
[2017-04-14 02:19:51] laisee : day off. can trade with the trolls and 1%'ers
[2017-04-14 02:20:14] mark121 : howd u kno i ride a harley
[2017-04-14 02:20:17] laisee : did thatb thing work out ok @elmorte?
[2017-04-14 02:20:40] laisee : harley != 1%
[2017-04-14 02:21:10] mark121 : what bout my hells angels fully tagged vest
[2017-04-14 02:21:14] elmorte : laisee: yet to be determined :/ Thanks again!
[2017-04-14 02:21:42] laisee : mark121: chapter?
[2017-04-14 02:21:52] mark121 : montreal
[2017-04-14 02:22:02] laisee : elmorte: chur, bro
[2017-04-14 02:22:32] laisee : mark121: who is president?
[2017-04-14 02:23:14] mark121 : man.. used to be mom
[2017-04-14 02:23:20] mark121 : so sad buchy left us
[2017-04-14 02:23:44] aethlios : in 18 hours starts the 6th ltc activation period.
[2017-04-14 02:23:59] mark121 : bouchy was the man
[2017-04-14 02:24:27] Armis : What is going on , btc will fall or no ? Today's chart is epic especially last hour
[2017-04-14 02:24:55] aguia7 : ??? 1542 usd http://preev.com/btc/usd/source:localbitcoins
[2017-04-14 02:25:20] mark121 : i only know a HA, okay? i lied
[2017-04-14 02:26:06] mark121 : im not an outlaw
[2017-04-14 02:26:44] mark121 : laisee are u a 1%
[2017-04-14 02:27:08] elmorte : aethlios: ltc what?
[2017-04-14 02:27:58] laisee : I'm in the top 1% for many things. Telling porkies, for instance.
[2017-04-14 02:28:19] mark121 : me 2
[2017-04-14 02:28:27] mark121 : top 1% of micro peens
[2017-04-14 02:28:34] elmorte : laisee: don't know whether to believe that....
[2017-04-14 02:28:35] mark121 : top 1% of lowest IQ
[2017-04-14 02:29:12] elmorte : Off to China in a couple of hours....you guys want me to pass on any message?
[2017-04-14 02:29:19] laisee : elmorte: it's all true., especially the last bit.
[2017-04-14 02:29:24] mark121 : du lei gwo ma
[2017-04-14 02:29:38] laisee : ccb
[2017-04-14 02:29:39] mark121 : pokgai
[2017-04-14 02:29:55] KingTuna : aethlios: 6th what?
[2017-04-14 02:30:30] mark121 : plz tell my friends, mr chan i say hello
[2017-04-14 02:30:34] mark121 : friend*
[2017-04-14 02:31:03] elmorte : Will do, I have him on wechat
[2017-04-14 02:33:11] mark121 : pls let them know Canada is full
[2017-04-14 02:33:31] mark121 : tyvm
[2017-04-14 02:33:44] elmorte : hahaha
[2017-04-14 02:33:50] elmorte : ^their reply
[2017-04-14 02:34:16] elmorte : Canadian dolla....it's like american dolla, but cheaper...hahaha
[2017-04-14 02:34:32] elmorte : ^unconcatenated reply
[2017-04-14 02:34:55] mark121 : saw 30% growth in home prices in past year
[2017-04-14 02:35:07] mark121 : all thanks to china fomo buying
[2017-04-14 02:35:25] mark121 : in my area
[2017-04-14 02:35:26] elmorte : They bought a whole city in Malaysia
[2017-04-14 02:35:35] elmorte : hasn't been built yet
[2017-04-14 02:36:05] elmorte : They fly buyers from China in just for that
[2017-04-14 02:36:42] mark121 : china shud ban the use of automobiles
[2017-04-14 02:36:56] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/WFMfdEr1wTQyc/giphy.gif
[2017-04-14 02:37:27] mark121 : i nearly died twice in past year in parking lots
[2017-04-14 02:38:23] mark121 : altho worst time, it was a chinese man who backed over another chinese person and didnt do anything, left the car on the guy cus he panic'd :p
[2017-04-14 02:38:42] mark121 : like under the wheel
[2017-04-14 02:38:57] elmorte : you gotta make sure they're dead
[2017-04-14 02:39:13] elmorte : Funeral is cheaper than hospital
[2017-04-14 02:40:57] aethlios : elmorte: @KingTuna SW activation period starts in 18 hours, will last 2 weeks and needs 75% of blocks to be mined to activate SW. so all miners SW and antiSW will push all power in those 2 weeks.
[2017-04-14 02:41:40] elmorte : aethlios: Tq! Does BTC have activation periods too?
[2017-04-14 02:41:53] aethlios : elmorte: yes
[2017-04-14 02:42:32] elmorte : Thanks again :)
[2017-04-14 02:45:04] ronensinger : mark121: Still there?
[2017-04-14 02:45:31] aethlios : so a rally at the end of that 2 week period to 20 is possible for ltc, best will be stabilization 12.5-15 after SW for 1 year. but after SW, fomo for LN activation will start.
[2017-04-14 02:46:57] ronensinger : Who's here?
[2017-04-14 02:47:36] mark121 : barely bbiab
[2017-04-14 02:47:51] mark121 : sup
[2017-04-14 02:48:05] ronensinger : mark121: Can we chat on irc?
[2017-04-14 02:48:44] mark121 : what
[2017-04-14 02:48:48] mark121 : is this
[2017-04-14 02:48:50] mark121 : 98'?
[2017-04-14 02:48:52] elmorte : aethlios: :thumbsup: How about the downside though?
[2017-04-14 02:48:57] mark121 : i kid
[2017-04-14 02:49:20] ronensinger : No, so you can give me your email without posting it publicly
[2017-04-14 02:49:40] aethlios : elmorte: probabilities is the magic word in trading.
[2017-04-14 02:50:02] elmorte : ronensinger: it's mark121@bridgewater.com
[2017-04-14 02:50:04] aethlios : nothing sure, only probabilities.
[2017-04-14 02:50:22] mark121 : hehe croatian.traveler.man@gmail.com
[2017-04-14 02:50:37] mark121 : its for situations like this
[2017-04-14 02:50:55] aethlios : and we are looking for the most probable outcome. so upside 70% for ltc to 15-20, downside to 8 30%, for next 2 weeks.
[2017-04-14 02:51:04] elmorte : mark121: tvoji su iz Hrvatske?
[2017-04-14 02:51:13] mark121 : jesu
[2017-04-14 02:51:16] elmorte : aethlios: cheers
[2017-04-14 02:51:26] elmorte : mark121: pa fino brate
[2017-04-14 02:51:40] mark121 : lepo, i ti?
[2017-04-14 02:51:46] elmorte : Ne, BiH
[2017-04-14 02:52:09] mark121 : close enuf
[2017-04-14 02:52:12] elmorte : yup
[2017-04-14 02:52:19] elmorte : Born there?
[2017-04-14 02:52:26] mark121 : im a true yugo, croatian/serb/macedonian
[2017-04-14 02:52:44] elmorte : sweet :)
[2017-04-14 02:53:04] mark121 : just barely born there
[2017-04-14 02:53:11] mark121 : but i go back alot
[2017-04-14 02:53:20] mark121 : love the ladies
[2017-04-14 02:53:26] elmorte : you a 90s kid?
[2017-04-14 02:53:31] mark121 : love normal folk
[2017-04-14 02:53:40] mark121 : no
[2017-04-14 02:53:51] elmorte : ah k, you guys moved before the war
[2017-04-14 02:54:13] ronensinger : mark121: I'm sending you an email
[2017-04-14 02:54:24] mark121 : ya
[2017-04-14 02:54:30] mark121 : ronensinger: ok
[2017-04-14 02:54:41] mark121 : elmorte: my family is full of fearful ppl
[2017-04-14 02:55:01] mark121 : first sense of trouble they gone lol
[2017-04-14 02:55:05] elmorte : Obviously not afraid of the winter...
[2017-04-14 02:55:11] mark121 : hah
[2017-04-14 02:55:57] mark121 : my family was pretty integrated, grandfathers supreme court judge and govern of bank of yugo
[2017-04-14 02:56:22] mark121 : grandma Tito's secretary
[2017-04-14 02:56:54] mark121 : moja baka je iz hvartska :P
[2017-04-14 02:57:03] ronensinger : Sent it
[2017-04-14 02:57:08] ronensinger : Let me know what you think
[2017-04-14 02:57:22] elmorte : Nice!
[2017-04-14 02:57:32] elmorte : Getting me all yugo-nostalgic
[2017-04-14 02:58:04] elmorte : My grandad was the director of public transport for Sarajevo. Also a party man...
[2017-04-14 02:58:36] elmorte : as in the communist party, lol...
[2017-04-14 02:58:38] mark121 : ya, i never even experienced it but even i get nostalgic
[2017-04-14 02:58:39] mark121 : yea
[2017-04-14 02:58:39] Sultan Pepper : Dobre den mark
[2017-04-14 02:58:51] mark121 : dobar dan
[2017-04-14 02:59:01] mark121 : 2 u too!
[2017-04-14 02:59:30] mark121 : communist party defintiely