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[2017-04-12 18:41:02] alcapone : see u 1181
[2017-04-12 18:41:07] MikeHunt : alcapone: cuz it sounds like alcapone is going to have a second death
[2017-04-12 18:41:09] alcapone : into easter
[2017-04-12 18:41:12] justinlooking : https://www.jbs.cam.ac.uk/fileadmin/user_upload/research/centres/alternative-finance/downloads/2017-global-cryptocurrency-benchmarking-study.pdf
[2017-04-12 18:41:14] justinlooking : soz if respost
[2017-04-12 18:41:43] alcapone : MikeHunt: u talk your book I walk my profit
[2017-04-12 18:41:52] MikeHunt : alcapone: it may be 1180 in easter, but it may go a lot higher before then
[2017-04-12 18:42:11] alcapone : nop
[2017-04-12 18:42:42] MikeHunt : alcapone: why not higher now then?
[2017-04-12 18:43:25] alcapone : MikeHunt: u want money?
[2017-04-12 18:44:00] alcapone : or paralysis?
[2017-04-12 18:44:13] MikeHunt : alcapone: u seem to be unable to answer the question
[2017-04-12 18:44:34] alcapone : MikeHunt: lol
[2017-04-12 18:44:56] alcapone : see recent trades and be happy
[2017-04-12 18:45:43] MikeHunt : alcapone: on bitmex?
[2017-04-12 18:45:53] alcapone : so many idits these days
[2017-04-12 18:46:53] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 18:46:56] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.95 / 73.05 Daily : 51.72 / 48.28 Weekly : 42.88 / 57.12 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.36```
[2017-04-12 18:47:48] alcapone : MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181
[2017-04-12 18:48:03] alcapone : happy easter
[2017-04-12 18:48:09] alcapone : :D
[2017-04-12 18:48:48] Ahhere : and then next page on monday write dear diary, the easter bunny raped me.
[2017-04-12 18:50:10] Secup : i dont even think there is enough to cover the 4k order
[2017-04-12 18:52:41] Secup : jumpingh to 1226 now lol
[2017-04-12 18:52:45] Secup : getting despeerate
[2017-04-12 18:53:19] Ahhere : i dont often take the lords name in vain, but it is easter so JESUS
[2017-04-12 18:57:19] MikeHunt : alcapone: lol 1 min u say confid, now ur telling
[2017-04-12 18:57:59] MikeHunt : shorting a bullrun is very risky
[2017-04-12 18:58:05] MikeHunt : ive learned that on many occasions
[2017-04-12 18:58:10] Secup : heh
[2017-04-12 18:58:11] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 18:58:13] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 27.16 / 72.84 Daily : 51.54 / 48.46 Weekly : 42.84 / 57.17 Monthly : 50.64 / 49.36```
[2017-04-12 18:58:22] alcapone : MikeHunt: u have a problem reading my trade?
[2017-04-12 18:59:01] MikeHunt : alcapone: if that $4m bid gets hit on finex
[2017-04-12 18:59:03] MikeHunt : ur dead
[2017-04-12 18:59:11] Secup : that wont hit
[2017-04-12 18:59:38] alcapone : MikeHunt: its ages as gone
[2017-04-12 19:00:30] Secup : a real damn mess coming up
[2017-04-12 19:00:35] Secup : im quite sure :D
[2017-04-12 19:00:51] MikeHunt : alcapone: oh yeah, back to normal now
[2017-04-12 19:01:01] MikeHunt : Secup: finex is royally screwed
[2017-04-12 19:01:28] alcapone : MikeHunt: you trade history I bet
[2017-04-12 19:01:43] alcapone : not real time
[2017-04-12 19:01:45] alcapone : lol
[2017-04-12 19:06:16] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: just ignore him... ?
[2017-04-12 19:08:10] immackay : lmao at those thinking btc will moon
[2017-04-12 19:09:51] Ahhere : are we not mooning? thx in advance for insight.
[2017-04-12 19:09:59] Secup : no
[2017-04-12 19:10:20] Secup : finex , cannot process usd withdrawal
[2017-04-12 19:10:24] Ahhere : i knew there was a reason I frequent the trollbox. invaluable analyis right there
[2017-04-12 19:10:40] Secup : and just realised they cant sue us banking system
[2017-04-12 19:10:55] Secup : so now they are like wt f we do
[2017-04-12 19:11:07] Secup : and whale trying to get their money out
[2017-04-12 19:11:14] Secup : but they cant cause nobody wanna sell
[2017-04-12 19:11:22] Ahhere : worst case 180million gone forever. how much did they lose in the hack again?
[2017-04-12 19:12:18] immackay : Ahhere: how much did they gain from the hack?
[2017-04-12 19:12:33] Ahhere : many happy customers?
[2017-04-12 19:13:08] immackay : i mean
[2017-04-12 19:13:13] Ahhere : look if it is mtgox 2.0 we will go higher before we go lower. If its not, we just go higher. so overall, we go higher
[2017-04-12 19:13:41] shillosopher : pro analysis right there lol
[2017-04-12 19:14:04] Ahhere : yes in short, moon
[2017-04-12 19:14:16] Ahhere : or moo for shorter
[2017-04-12 19:14:35] Ahhere : i think i spent too much time talking to lorestr yesterday
[2017-04-12 19:18:26] Secup : well , finex could be removed from the index
[2017-04-12 19:18:39] Secup : since it will falsely increase the damn value
[2017-04-12 19:18:47] Ahhere : /price
[2017-04-12 19:18:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1220.99 (0.15%) Bitfinex : 1235.60 (0.34%) The Woodchipper : 1218.90 (-0.18%) itBit : 1221.40 (-0.09%) Kraken : 1221.27 (-0.38%) GDAX : 1219.10 (-0.02%) SLQ : 3 hours, 15 mins```
[2017-04-12 19:18:59] Ahhere : oh snap I see what you mean lol
[2017-04-12 19:19:17] Ahhere : annoying for shorts here
[2017-04-12 19:19:47] Secup : and if its removed from the index, and ppl see big ass prob with finex , they will freak the f out and sell
[2017-04-12 19:19:59] Secup : and thus
[2017-04-12 19:20:06] Secup : big bang boom
[2017-04-12 19:20:08] Ahhere : nah
[2017-04-12 19:21:04] hmmmYea : the squeeze could be crazy
[2017-04-12 19:21:14] hmmmYea : better to take it out as a precaution
[2017-04-12 19:21:48] Ahhere : finex daily volume is 14 million. This may seem like a problem with bitcoin, but this is an example of why bitcoin is better than fiat. The upward pressure is organic if you think about it.
[2017-04-12 19:22:28] hmmmYea : its example of why bitcoin might have some interoperability problems with fiat.
[2017-04-12 19:22:39] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 19:22:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 19.14 / 80.87 Daily : 49.28 / 50.72 Weekly : 42.56 / 57.44 Monthly : 50.62 / 49.38```
[2017-04-12 19:22:58] Ahhere : greshams law guy
[2017-04-12 19:22:58] hmmmYea : AML laws aren't the WOAT
[2017-04-12 19:23:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 4 @ 0.00976
[2017-04-12 19:23:41] hmmmYea : people applying gresham's law to bitcoin make my eyes roll
[2017-04-12 19:24:01] Ahhere : yeah cos economics doesnt apply
[2017-04-12 19:24:10] Ahhere : not real muney
[2017-04-12 19:24:10] hmmmYea : no it does
[2017-04-12 19:24:27] hmmmYea : just applying gresham's law to btc vs fiat is wrong
[2017-04-12 19:24:37] Ahhere : school me brehren
[2017-04-12 19:25:23] hmmmYea : ill try... if i fail, ill just point you to wikipedia?
[2017-04-12 19:25:54] hmmmYea : the tl;dr is that the "good money" and "bad money" have to have the same face value
[2017-04-12 19:25:55] Ahhere : ok lets go
[2017-04-12 19:27:00] hmmmYea : i can pay with a silver dollar or a paper dollar... and the merchant accepts both as equal.. then i pay with paper.. .bc my silver dollar holds onto to some optionality if later silver is worth more than a dollar
[2017-04-12 19:27:22] Ahhere : yes with u
[2017-04-12 19:27:24] hmmmYea : but bitcoin and dollars have floating exchange rate
[2017-04-12 19:27:53] hmmmYea : so... the optionality from the additional utility of owning bitcoin is being priced by the market
[2017-04-12 19:28:19] hmmmYea : so... gresham's law doesnt apply
[2017-04-12 19:28:52] hmmmYea : its a very widely believed idea... like literally everyone thinks it does
[2017-04-12 19:28:59] Ahhere : im not seeing how the two are different other than there is no bitcoin dollar bill
[2017-04-12 19:29:55] hmmmYea : there has to be a divergence bt the face value of the currencies and the market value of the currencies
[2017-04-12 19:30:24] hmmmYea : bitcoin is just another currency
[2017-04-12 19:30:49] hmmmYea : no one is transacting in zimbabwean dollars bc USD is the "good money"
[2017-04-12 19:30:51] hmmmYea : right?
[2017-04-12 19:31:02] Ahhere : from wiki: Good money is money that shows little difference between its nominal value (the face value of the coin) and its commodity value (the value of the metal of which it is made
[2017-04-12 19:31:36] Ahhere : you are saying that a dollar of bitcoin holds no benefit over a paper dollar
[2017-04-12 19:31:41] Ahhere : unlike a dollar of silver
[2017-04-12 19:31:47] Ahhere : if I understand you correctly?
[2017-04-12 19:32:18] hmmmYea : im saying that if you buy a "dollar of bitcoins" that extra utility is already in the fair market price
[2017-04-12 19:32:41] hmmmYea : and if the value of that utility changes your dollar of bitcoins will appreciate or depreciate against a USD
[2017-04-12 19:32:54] hmmmYea : Gresham's law states that any circulating currency consisting of both "good" and "bad" money (both forms required to be accepted at equal value under legal tender law)
[2017-04-12 19:33:06] hmmmYea : ^^ from the first line of the "theory" section
[2017-04-12 19:33:39] Ahhere : I understand. No government has falsely pegged it to a value not including its full 'intrinsic value'
[2017-04-12 19:33:40] L9 : Guys, what is your average ROE per trade?
[2017-04-12 19:33:55] hmmmYea : Ahhere: exactly
[2017-04-12 19:34:14] Ahhere : hmmmYea: i stand schooled
[2017-04-12 19:34:25] hmmmYea : lol
[2017-04-12 19:34:35] hmmmYea : im happy i was able to explain it to one soul
[2017-04-12 19:34:36] sleger : L9: are you asking all the traders here on average ?
[2017-04-12 19:34:41] sleger : because i know the answer
[2017-04-12 19:35:04] L9 : sleger: On average
[2017-04-12 19:35:15] L9 : Or median
[2017-04-12 19:35:18] sleger : on average people here make zero (excluding fees)
[2017-04-12 19:35:25] atlanta : About time!
[2017-04-12 19:35:26] hmmmYea : sleger: how original
[2017-04-12 19:35:27] sleger : median is probably negative
[2017-04-12 19:35:30] atlanta : ETH finally breaking out
[2017-04-12 19:35:55] Ahhere : hmmmYea: it was a nice way to call bitcoin good money and sound smart. thanks for taking that from me.
[2017-04-12 19:36:55] Ahhere : /grudge @hmmmYea
[2017-04-12 19:37:00] L9 : sleger: Average for profitable traders. E.g.mine ROE is 10-20% per trade depending on a volatility with max leverage
[2017-04-12 19:37:24] L9 : Currently most of my trades profitable
[2017-04-12 19:37:41] Ahhere : atlanta: i wouldnt call that much of a break out on the daily but glad I closed my short a few hours ago
[2017-04-12 19:38:19] sleger : L9: yes of course because as soon as you have a non profitable one your account will be zero
[2017-04-12 19:38:23] sleger : like most retail traders
[2017-04-12 19:38:29] hmmmYea : Ahhere: haahaha
[2017-04-12 19:38:45] Ahhere : hmmmYea: :D
[2017-04-12 19:39:22] L9 : sleger: It is also possible that most of your trades are zero but profitable trades cover non-profitable
[2017-04-12 19:39:57] atlanta : Ahhere: It's just getting started :)
[2017-04-12 19:40:13] Ahhere : what u targeting with your optimism
[2017-04-12 19:40:46] atlanta : Ahhere: 0.05s on ETHBTC
[2017-04-12 19:41:07] Ahhere : yeah that will happen for a retest at least Im sure
[2017-04-12 19:41:16] Ahhere : not as optimistic as I thought
[2017-04-12 19:41:30] atlanta : It's just first leg up
[2017-04-12 19:41:33] atlanta : Friday will go nuts
[2017-04-12 19:41:38] Ahhere : why friday lol
[2017-04-12 19:41:45] Ahhere : jesus dying?
[2017-04-12 19:42:10] atlanta : Something like that
[2017-04-12 19:42:12] atlanta : you'll see
[2017-04-12 19:42:16] atlanta : Watch ETHBTC
[2017-04-12 19:42:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 50 @ 0.03808
[2017-04-12 19:42:23] Ahhere : ah the old you'll see analysis
[2017-04-12 19:42:39] atlanta : haha nah, it's just a hyped date on reddit. I think something will happen.
[2017-04-12 19:42:45] atlanta : There's no basis, but you know.
[2017-04-12 19:43:05] atlanta : On polo someone just flashed a 68k buy wall of ETH
[2017-04-12 19:43:24] atlanta : on ETHBTC
[2017-04-12 19:44:51] alcapone : btc mooning....wow
[2017-04-12 19:45:57] Ahhere : there is so much stuff due to be tacked on to eth this year so there will be jumps. I want to long ethusd at some point for the party to 100 dollars. I guess when we make a new ath I'll jump back in
[2017-04-12 19:46:01] sleger : "[2017-04-12 13:12:49] alcapone : I sell xbt"
[2017-04-12 19:46:16] alcapone : sleger: so?
[2017-04-12 19:46:32] sleger : "[2017-04-12 13:31:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 220 @ 0.00993 [2017-04-12 13:32:23] alcapone : REKT: what is liquidated? [2017-04-12 13:32:39] zqooN : alcapone: rekt is a bot [2017-04-12 13:32:51] alcapone : wut?"
[2017-04-12 19:46:38] alcapone : [‎21‎:‎47] alcapone: MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181 happy easter
[2017-04-12 19:46:42] Ahhere : sleger: u still hodling your eths guy?
[2017-04-12 19:46:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 1400 @ 0.03881
[2017-04-12 19:46:54] atlanta : yo
[2017-04-12 19:46:54] atlanta : go
[2017-04-12 19:46:57] atlanta : ETHBTC Long now
[2017-04-12 19:47:05] sleger : now is 0.039
[2017-04-12 19:47:18] alcapone : sleger: help me ...[‎21‎:‎47] alcapone: MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181 happy easter
[2017-04-12 19:47:25] atlanta : Yes, been watching since 0.036
[2017-04-12 19:47:40] atlanta : 0.04 now
[2017-04-12 19:47:50] sleger : alcapone: you are REKT soon then
[2017-04-12 19:47:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 100 @ 0.03958
[2017-04-12 19:48:15] alcapone : sleger: idiot, read the trade
[2017-04-12 19:48:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 15 @ 0.04014
[2017-04-12 19:48:37] hmmmYea : shoot, whats this news?
[2017-04-12 19:48:41] hmmmYea : on da eth
[2017-04-12 19:48:42] Ahhere : pumpski
[2017-04-12 19:48:48] hmmmYea : Ahhere: skeptical of that
[2017-04-12 19:48:48] sleger : "[2017-04-12 18:47:48] alcapone : MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181" <= yes you are short dummy
[2017-04-12 19:48:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 1 @ 0.018180
[2017-04-12 19:49:11] alcapone : sleger: I am in green idiot
[2017-04-12 19:49:21] sleger : then you're a green liar
[2017-04-12 19:49:34] alcapone : sleger: [‎21‎:‎47] alcapone: MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181 happy easter
[2017-04-12 19:49:47] sleger : yes you sold 1222, it has NOT moved since
[2017-04-12 19:49:51] ross : news on eth??
[2017-04-12 19:50:20] alcapone : sleger: read till end
[2017-04-12 19:51:08] sleger : you dont make sense newb
[2017-04-12 19:51:19] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 19:51:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.61 / 73.39 Daily : 48.61 / 51.39 Weekly : 42.49 / 57.51 Monthly : 50.61 / 49.39```
[2017-04-12 19:51:24] alcapone : sleger: whatever
[2017-04-12 19:52:01] alcapone : buy the moon of btc lol
[2017-04-12 19:52:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 5 @ 0.03838
[2017-04-12 19:52:30] Ahhere : that is a big ass eth spike
[2017-04-12 19:52:54] Ahhere : *was
[2017-04-12 19:56:08] atlanta : Wave 1
[2017-04-12 19:56:15] atlanta : Wave 2 inc
[2017-04-12 19:57:20] Tetsuo : ETH <3
[2017-04-12 20:02:15] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 20:02:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 46.44 / 53.56 Daily : 49.80 / 50.20 Weekly : 42.69 / 57.31 Monthly : 50.63 / 49.37```
[2017-04-12 20:05:22] 123abc : XMR exploding
[2017-04-12 20:16:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 1169 @ 0.00964
[2017-04-12 20:21:48] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 20:21:50] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 62.67 / 37.33 Daily : 49.98 / 50.02 Weekly : 42.68 / 57.32 Monthly : 50.63 / 49.37```
[2017-04-12 20:22:01] Secup : sentiment is big crash incoming
[2017-04-12 20:22:06] Secup : and eth rise
[2017-04-12 20:22:16] stf28 : maybe the 4k bid purpose was to create some kind of buying support...
[2017-04-12 20:22:26] Secup : i think so too
[2017-04-12 20:27:05] MikeHunt : stf28: or a reminder to bears that the end is nigh?
[2017-04-12 20:31:05] sleger : ^ he is making a WHOLE TWO dollars so far, impressive stuff
[2017-04-12 20:32:08] justinlooking : thy will be rekt
[2017-04-12 20:32:31] sleger : ^ lorestr is back
[2017-04-12 20:33:46] sleger : yep, same IQ, its him
[2017-04-12 20:33:53] MikeHunt : i just hope that $4m bid comes back just to rekt alcapoo
[2017-04-12 20:34:35] sleger : any MOD around ?
[2017-04-12 20:34:42] coinspredator : BTC avalanche incoming
[2017-04-12 20:37:47] justinlooking : coinspredator: hope so, feels cheap here but lower is better ;)
[2017-04-12 20:39:18] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 20:39:21] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 69.63 / 30.37 Daily : 49.90 / 50.10 Weekly : 42.66 / 57.34 Monthly : 50.63 / 49.37```
[2017-04-12 20:57:58] arbitrage101 : yo
[2017-04-12 20:58:01] arbitrage101 : how things go
[2017-04-12 21:00:13] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: Yes
[2017-04-12 21:01:38] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: He has now been chat banned
[2017-04-12 21:02:37] sleger : so many bad trolls these days...
[2017-04-12 21:03:02] BitMEX_Greg : just @ me in the future, it will reach me sooner
[2017-04-12 21:03:04] KyllingLolsson : Where is the real artist trolls
[2017-04-12 21:08:17] finnagetdooped : eth<3
[2017-04-12 21:09:22] arbitrage101 : eth going up too slow
[2017-04-12 21:09:29] arbitrage101 : btc refuse to die
[2017-04-12 21:09:49] arbitrage101 : old king must die before new king can rule
[2017-04-12 21:10:23] arbitrage101 : oh noes
[2017-04-12 21:10:29] arbitrage101 : kraken offering dash trading
[2017-04-12 21:10:37] arbitrage101 : more temporary pain for shorty
[2017-04-12 21:11:50] KyllingLolsson : finnagetdooped: who are you
[2017-04-12 21:17:10] hmmmYea : kraken is such garbage, but they seem to be work hard to reinvent themselves
[2017-04-12 21:17:15] hmmmYea : working*
[2017-04-12 21:21:06] arbitrage101 : hmmmYea: all exchanges started out shitty
[2017-04-12 21:26:56] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 21:26:59] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.63 / 38.37 Daily : 50.22 / 49.78 Weekly : 42.58 / 57.42 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-12 21:28:59] rapidtrades : https://news.bitcoin.com/bitfinex-withdraws-lawsuit-wells-fargo/
[2017-04-12 21:29:08] rapidtrades : and stil not processing USD withdrawals
[2017-04-12 21:29:11] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-12 21:29:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1212.53 (-0.69%) Bitfinex : 1225.00 (-0.86%) The Woodchipper : 1213.20 (-0.47%) itBit : 1214.14 (-0.59%) Kraken : 1212.14 (-0.75%) GDAX : 1211.16 (-0.65%) SLQ : 2 hours, 10 mins```
[2017-04-12 21:29:29] rapidtrades : @bitmex time to axe them
[2017-04-12 21:29:49] rapidtrades : let's do it now before price spikes to $1500
[2017-04-12 21:30:44] Ahhere : woodchipper was way worse
[2017-04-12 21:31:10] BitMEX_Greg : We are still monitoring. It seems like FUD that they are not processing withdrawals, or rather it is not clear yet. Under the impression they are able to process USD withdrawals via other means?
[2017-04-12 21:31:53] rapidtrades : ETH spiked at same time as Trump made that weak dollar statement/
[2017-04-12 21:31:54] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-04-12 21:32:16] Ahhere : pumpski
[2017-04-12 21:32:33] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/64z2pd/bitfinex_withdraws_wells_fargo_lawsuit/
[2017-04-12 21:32:47] rapidtrades : ppl in that thread say they can't get their USD from weeks ago
[2017-04-12 21:33:18] rapidtrades : Euro still undervalued here
[2017-04-12 21:33:41] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 21:33:44] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 74.17 / 25.83 Daily : 51.54 / 48.46 Weekly : 42.61 / 57.39 Monthly : 50.66 / 49.34```
[2017-04-12 21:34:40] L9 : BitMEX_Greg: Are there plans to implement opening multiple positions on the same contract?
[2017-04-12 21:34:46] rapidtrades : Once the new period starts you'll see the BU ppl crank up their miners
[2017-04-12 21:35:02] rapidtrades : turning them on now is just waste of money
[2017-04-12 21:35:09] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: We will keep monitoring. It is something we are aware of
[2017-04-12 21:35:41] rapidtrades : but they'd want to start right away cos if they let segwit gain it will get exponentially harder to block later
[2017-04-12 21:35:46] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: alright
[2017-04-12 21:35:57] BitMEX_Greg : L9: Not a priority at this stage. We are looking at doing something of this sort however. In the meantime you can open up a second account to achieve this. You can email us to set up a master/sub relationship to transfer funds immediately between the two accounts too.
[2017-04-12 21:36:14] rapidtrades : LTC back <10 on Friday or Saturday
[2017-04-12 21:37:23] rapidtrades : also we haven't had a flash crash on LTC during this entire pump, seems overdue considering how crowded the long side is
[2017-04-12 21:38:22] rapidtrades : a smart long would figure that segwit is not worth 170% gain anyway and get out...but LTC ppl are not very smart
[2017-04-12 21:39:04] rapidtrades : china almost $3 below west, completely not buying this leveraged pump
[2017-04-12 21:39:21] rapidtrades : exactly 30% discount for the lazy
[2017-04-12 21:40:02] rapidtrades : the bitcoin discount is 15% (cos i know some turd will pipe in with muh withdrawals)
[2017-04-12 21:40:49] arbitrage101 : btc makes all time high
[2017-04-12 21:40:58] arbitrage101 : time for ltc to make all time high
[2017-04-12 21:41:03] arbitrage101 : every dog has his day
[2017-04-12 21:43:18] mdsmm : make me richhhh
[2017-04-12 21:43:46] arbitrage101 : anyone who go long in bubble make money
[2017-04-12 21:44:02] KyllingLolsson : Lol
[2017-04-12 21:45:52] Tetsuo : 14$ LTC soon
[2017-04-12 21:46:44] Ahhere : ^^true story
[2017-04-12 21:46:55] Ahhere : charlie said so
[2017-04-12 21:47:05] mdsmm : I'm here way before any bubble
[2017-04-12 21:47:09] mdsmm : i was here*
[2017-04-12 21:47:19] Ahhere : are you here?
[2017-04-12 21:47:28] mdsmm : Ah you mean here
[2017-04-12 21:47:33] Ahhere : lol
[2017-04-12 21:47:36] mdsmm : Ahhere
[2017-04-12 21:47:43] Ahhere : ;)
[2017-04-12 21:48:20] mdsmm : and out again
[2017-04-12 21:48:25] mdsmm : Got no time to trade a lot :(
[2017-04-12 21:48:26] frog : rapidtrades: will need some news short have high exposure with LTC, there has been heavy shorting down to 9 with no real covering, if price gets to 13 it may pop to 16-17
[2017-04-12 21:48:31] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: too late u already covered 70%
[2017-04-12 21:49:08] rapidtrades : frog: proof?
[2017-04-12 21:49:37] frog : dont believe me then please show your proof
[2017-04-12 21:49:44] frog : its up to you
[2017-04-12 21:50:27] frog : lack of flash crash sound like pump and dump speak
[2017-04-12 21:51:07] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: did u bail out already?
[2017-04-12 21:51:23] arbitrage101 : alt coin going up
[2017-04-12 21:51:28] arbitrage101 : seeing all green
[2017-04-12 21:51:45] arbitrage101 : go baby
[2017-04-12 21:52:13] aguia7 : /price
[2017-04-12 21:52:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1212.29 (-0.02%) Bitfinex : 1227.80 (0.23%) The Woodchipper : 1212.18 (-0.08%) itBit : 1214.41 (0.02%) Kraken : 1217.00 (0.40%) GDAX : 1212.05 (0.07%) SLQ : 23 mins```
[2017-04-12 21:53:13] frog : LTC segwit support 79.5% last 576 blocks
[2017-04-12 21:53:59] aguia7 : 1308 usd localbitcoins
[2017-04-12 21:54:24] aguia7 : much difference
[2017-04-12 21:54:39] frog : hard to see people increasing their exiting short positions on LTC
[2017-04-12 21:54:45] frog : existing
[2017-04-12 21:56:17] rapidtrades : think its time to call it quits and come back few months after the bubble bursts
[2017-04-12 21:56:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 602 @ 0.056163
[2017-04-12 21:56:43] arbitrage101 : technology bubble last for decades
[2017-04-12 21:56:58] frog : everything looks strong with coin atm whether bubble or not time will tell
[2017-04-12 21:57:05] arbitrage101 : internet took off big after 30 years
[2017-04-12 21:57:15] arbitrage101 : amazon is eating up all retail shopping mall right now
[2017-04-12 21:57:23] arbitrage101 : so is alibaba
[2017-04-12 21:57:23] frog : valuations can vary wildly both ways
[2017-04-12 21:58:17] rapidtrades : this is bullshit and almost every knows it, they just hope they wont be the last one standing when music stops
[2017-04-12 21:58:44] arbitrage101 : pretty sure shorty will fall long before the bubble bust
[2017-04-12 21:59:06] frog : if there is market crash will coin behave like gold?
[2017-04-12 21:59:48] rapidtrades : yes a virtual coin that pumps on tweets will behave exactly like gold
[2017-04-12 22:00:04] frog : so will go up?
[2017-04-12 22:00:17] arbitrage101 : you can build distributed application on coin
[2017-04-12 22:00:35] arbitrage101 : and e-commerce system that by pass banking and gov regulation
[2017-04-12 22:00:50] frog : there has been no crash since start of bitcoin so hard to say but can argue both ways
[2017-04-12 22:00:51] aguia7 : . who got this consolidation. Buy sell, sell buy, buy sell, sell buy.........Who operated like this got rich today. http://www.tradingview.com/x/1kEHNHIW
[2017-04-12 22:03:39] aguia7 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJAk2BAKrdI
[2017-04-12 22:11:16] rapidtrades : june back to crazy discounts
[2017-04-12 22:11:19] frog : bitfinex volume is unchanged since WF issue, I thought people may withdraw and volume would reduce
[2017-04-12 22:12:00] rapidtrades : i think im gonna wait it out until okc withdrawals and see what happens
[2017-04-12 22:12:13] rapidtrades : or if my equity drops below X, whichever comes first
[2017-04-12 22:12:52] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 22:12:55] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.18 / 38.82 Daily : 51.59 / 48.41 Weekly : 42.59 / 57.41 Monthly : 50.66 / 49.34```
[2017-04-12 22:13:06] frog : i would consider reducing short positions on dips
[2017-04-12 22:13:57] rapidtrades : no
[2017-04-12 22:14:07] rapidtrades : it would be impossible to recover if i do that
[2017-04-12 22:14:46] frog : i understand but price moves all the time and there is always another trade
[2017-04-12 22:15:06] rapidtrades : im not joining the fomo
[2017-04-12 22:15:17] Secup : I jist dont get why it havent crashed yet
[2017-04-12 22:15:34] Secup : Ita clear finex wont recover from this , wtf
[2017-04-12 22:15:43] frog : You want to ensure that if things do go against you can recover, nothing is certain either way
[2017-04-12 22:16:29] Secup : I feel like in the big short.movie
[2017-04-12 22:16:48] rapidtrades : my equity is > what it was back in october so not tragic
[2017-04-12 22:17:08] frog : i've been expecting BTC to drop as well but nothing
[2017-04-12 22:17:22] rapidtrades : but frustrating to lose money in this envinroment where every tool without school is making dough
[2017-04-12 22:17:30] arbitrage101 : good poker players know when to fold their hand
[2017-04-12 22:18:01] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: don't act smart ur guilty as everyone
[2017-04-12 22:18:08] arbitrage101 : how so
[2017-04-12 22:18:15] frog : it more like sport betting
[2017-04-12 22:18:17] arbitrage101 : i rarely take directional trade
[2017-04-12 22:18:20] rapidtrades : ur trash basically @arbitrage101
[2017-04-12 22:18:32] arbitrage101 : other than eth and zcash
[2017-04-12 22:18:47] frog : sometimes public side have a good run
[2017-04-12 22:20:00] rapidtrades : I think I have to segregate my crypto equity from my regular trading
[2017-04-12 22:20:13] rapidtrades : these markets are just too volatile
[2017-04-12 22:20:44] arbitrage101 : if you cant make profit here, doubt you can trade profitable on equity or forez
[2017-04-12 22:21:08] arbitrage101 : as many pointed out here before, there are too much dumb money around
[2017-04-12 22:21:59] frog : i think cryptomarket changing and slowly becoming more mainstream
[2017-04-12 22:22:02] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 22:22:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.91 / 44.09 Daily : 51.54 / 48.46 Weekly : 42.60 / 57.40 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-12 22:22:26] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 22:22:29] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.91 / 44.09 Daily : 51.54 / 48.46 Weekly : 42.60 / 57.40 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-12 22:22:32] rapidtrades : well dumb money has been buying every dip for months and winning
[2017-04-12 22:22:40] rapidtrades : so whats ur answer sherlock
[2017-04-12 22:22:52] rapidtrades : actually almost 2 years now
[2017-04-12 22:23:07] rapidtrades : will be 2 full years in August
[2017-04-12 22:23:25] arbitrage101 : if you cant see why many are still jumping on crypto bandwagon, you are the dumb money
[2017-04-12 22:23:31] frog : maybe long term revaluation
[2017-04-12 22:24:00] rapidtrades : Everything here will go to 0 eventually , you can quote me on that
[2017-04-12 22:24:19] rapidtrades : not 1 person will be employed in the crypto 'industry' in 20 years
[2017-04-12 22:24:34] ripcord : who cares? trade
[2017-04-12 22:24:42] frog : maybe but you don't want to go to 0 before that happens
[2017-04-12 22:28:27] frog : macro china support crypto as it is only viable alternative to USD [but don't hold your breath] and have growing mining and manufacturing industry
[2017-04-12 22:30:03] rapidtrades : https://imgur.com/w9g5qTs
[2017-04-12 22:34:07] rapidtrades : earlier he said this https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/64ugy3/litecoin_on_coinbase_code_all_done_charlie_lee/
[2017-04-12 22:35:37] zqooN : whatever he says I always imagen him saying it like Mr Chow from the Hangover
[2017-04-12 22:39:38] seango : man this shit looks way too complicated
[2017-04-12 22:40:34] seango : what am i supposed to do
[2017-04-12 22:41:05] seango : im from the usa , i cant do this ?
[2017-04-12 22:41:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx0PdjJw5OM
[2017-04-12 22:41:46] seango : thanks man i appreciate it
[2017-04-12 22:56:07] startChat : rapidtrades: key is how fast.
[2017-04-12 22:58:50] rapidtrades : theyre doing their slow pump thing and then they'll dump everything at once on unsuspecting fools
[2017-04-12 22:59:27] rapidtrades : saw the same pattern twice so far this year
[2017-04-12 22:59:45] rapidtrades : then all gains got erased within 3 days and new lows were hi
[2017-04-12 22:59:49] rapidtrades : t*
[2017-04-12 23:07:57] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: long time welcome back
[2017-04-12 23:09:37] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: what dates were the other slow pump n dumps?
[2017-04-12 23:12:27] rapidtrades : its pretty obvious on the daily charts
[2017-04-12 23:12:44] rapidtrades : month long slow pump followed by 3 days of red erasing all gains
[2017-04-12 23:13:24] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: as a result of bad news
[2017-04-12 23:15:37] rapidtrades : ur right
[2017-04-12 23:15:51] rapidtrades : without bad news bitcoin will keep rallying forever
[2017-04-12 23:27:51] MikeHunt : finex may well do a gox and send this to the moon
[2017-04-12 23:27:58] MikeHunt : and then back down as they go insolvent
[2017-04-12 23:28:51] ripcord : why would finex doing a gox be bullish?
[2017-04-12 23:29:29] MikeHunt : ripcord: cant withdraw fiat
[2017-04-12 23:29:31] MikeHunt : means buy btc
[2017-04-12 23:29:34] MikeHunt : price go up
[2017-04-12 23:29:55] ripcord : I understand that, but everyone knows the reason...other exchanges won't follow
[2017-04-12 23:30:31] MikeHunt : they've followed so far
[2017-04-12 23:30:56] frog : maybe they are quietly doing that now
[2017-04-12 23:31:52] ripcord : Everyone was in denial with gox...now it's not unexpected
[2017-04-12 23:32:46] MikeHunt : ripcord: no one expects the gox inquisition
[2017-04-12 23:33:49] ripcord : eh?
[2017-04-12 23:33:50] Secup : /price
[2017-04-12 23:33:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1215.47 (0.26%) Bitfinex : 1231.90 (0.33%) The Woodchipper : 1216.32 (0.34%) itBit : 1218.57 (0.34%) Kraken : 1220.00 (0.25%) GDAX : 1217.60 (0.46%) SLQ : 1 hour, 41 mins```
[2017-04-12 23:34:01] Secup : Tsk
[2017-04-12 23:34:02] MikeHunt : ripcord: spanish inquisition...
[2017-04-12 23:36:05] ripcord : ah, monty
[2017-04-12 23:36:41] Secup : Idk wgay other channels they have
[2017-04-12 23:36:52] Secup : If wf dont want u, nobodh will
[2017-04-12 23:37:03] ripcord : english please
[2017-04-12 23:54:36] Secup : i was saying , for finex, they said they have other channels, but realisticly, if wells fargo dont want u and its public, nobody gonna risk it.
[2017-04-12 23:54:43] ronensinger : /joke
[2017-04-12 23:54:44] trollbot : ``` Things that will get you kicked off an United Airlines flight: 1)Wearing leggings 2)Having an United Airlines ticket -Dan Regan```
[2017-04-12 23:54:49] frog : BTC transactions tied to fiat like with Ripple platform will avoid the need to deal with correspondent banks which cannot be relied on to complete the transaction
[2017-04-12 23:54:51] ronensinger : /joke
[2017-04-12 23:54:52] trollbot : ``` Did you know there are no Walmarts in Syria? ...only Targets```
[2017-04-12 23:56:40] ripcord : Secup: true...they're f-ed if other banks follow
[2017-04-12 23:57:06] Secup : banks are so by the book, noone will go play big balls
[2017-04-12 23:57:24] Secup : so its only a matter of time before it implode
[2017-04-12 23:57:30] ripcord : this is interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thPHKfL8ep8
[2017-04-12 23:58:08] ripcord : basically finex CEO is saying all banks are going against anything crypto
[2017-04-12 23:58:20] Secup : well , of course
[2017-04-12 23:58:32] ripcord : right, makes sense
[2017-04-12 23:58:42] ripcord : sucks though
[2017-04-13 00:00:47] ripcord : I guess the only thing that will change that is actually being able to transact most things in crypto
[2017-04-13 00:09:28] ripcord : zzzzzzzz
[2017-04-13 00:14:57] laisee : as Satoshi intended, build a new money transfer system w/out banks or other intermediaries.
[2017-04-13 00:15:55] ripcord : yeah, but unfortunately I can't use BTC for most things in my life
[2017-04-13 00:16:01] ripcord : at this point
[2017-04-13 00:16:11] rapidtrades : yeah just idiot libtards sending each other fake internet tokens
[2017-04-13 00:16:16] rapidtrades : sounds like a great idea
[2017-04-13 00:16:21] ripcord : lol
[2017-04-13 00:16:43] rapidtrades : you've had this currency for 8 years now and all you've done is make it a haven for crime and drugs
[2017-04-13 00:16:45] laisee : it is a great idea.
[2017-04-13 00:17:01] laisee : and gambling. don't forget.
[2017-04-13 00:17:02] ripcord : rapidtrades: so like cash?
[2017-04-13 00:17:08] rapidtrades : so excuse me if I don't trust u with beating the 'legacy' financial system
[2017-04-13 00:17:48] laisee : essence of crypto is not having to trust ... central banks, govt or banks ;-)
[2017-04-13 00:18:06] rapidtrades : lets not forget that finex are criminals, other exchanges are working fine
[2017-04-13 00:18:22] rapidtrades : if u lose money on finex now you have only urself to blame
[2017-04-13 00:18:37] ripcord : I'm not betting on it long-term, but it's a great instrument to trade
[2017-04-13 00:18:56] rapidtrades : another note, they prolly knew about the WF stopping withdrawals BEFORE they redeemed all tokens
[2017-04-13 00:19:12] rapidtrades : that's why they rushed it, so they can cash in
[2017-04-13 00:19:22] ripcord : I don't doubt that
[2017-04-13 00:19:32] laisee : how does that benefit BFX?
[2017-04-13 00:19:35] rapidtrades : the biggest token holders were their share-holders, as they bragged before
[2017-04-13 00:19:41] ripcord : they still haven't explained the original "hack"
[2017-04-13 00:19:59] rapidtrades : if this news was released with tokens trading, it would crash the value
[2017-04-13 00:20:26] laisee : my BCU position is rising by the day now ...
[2017-04-13 00:20:28] rapidtrades : they basically went from 10% redeemed to 100%, did 90% in one go
[2017-04-13 00:20:57] rapidtrades : they're prolly in bigger shit then they're letting the public know
[2017-04-13 00:22:01] ripcord : the premium is troubling
[2017-04-13 00:22:34] ripcord : when it starts going discount, that's when it's over
[2017-04-13 00:23:18] rapidtrades : /fork
[2017-04-13 00:23:19] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 1099.80 (-0.02%) Bitfinex BCU : 142.00 (7.40%) SLQ : 12 hours, 18 mins```
[2017-04-13 00:23:37] rapidtrades : BCU still undervalued but it trades on finex so
[2017-04-13 00:24:43] rapidtrades : its possbile that we'll get both segwit and bigger blocks in a big compromise this year
[2017-04-13 00:25:11] rapidtrades : that would be fun, both binaries expiring at 100
[2017-04-13 00:25:29] laisee : everyones a w1nner!
[2017-04-13 00:25:38] ripcord : I don't trade that crap
[2017-04-13 00:26:22] laisee : BCU is undervalued compared to miner hash % for BU. Hard Fork is coming ...
[2017-04-13 00:26:40] rapidtrades : they can't do HF with 34%
[2017-04-13 00:26:49] rapidtrades : i mean they can but its pointless
[2017-04-13 00:26:58] ripcord : when is LTC going SW?
[2017-04-13 00:27:06] rapidtrades : never
[2017-04-13 00:27:32] rapidtrades : they wont let LTC segwit before a bitcoin compromise is struck
[2017-04-13 00:27:43] ripcord : isn't it close?
[2017-04-13 00:27:57] laisee : like a tree faling in da woods, SW activates on Litecoin and no-one notices
[2017-04-13 00:28:33] rapidtrades : its impossible to activate in the next 2 days so noone bothers to block
[2017-04-13 00:29:05] rapidtrades : you'll see the resistance push it below 75% on friday or saturday
[2017-04-13 00:30:02] ripcord : what's the link to see the last xxx blocks?
[2017-04-13 00:30:23] rapidtrades : http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php
[2017-04-13 00:31:05] ripcord : thanks
[2017-04-13 00:31:50] rapidtrades : meanwhile in bitcoin BU 35% swegwit 27%
[2017-04-13 00:32:19] ripcord : so 67% in LTC...you think that will drop?
[2017-04-13 00:33:15] laisee : There is a known security issue for SegWit if miners signal to activate then roll back change, users can lose money.
[2017-04-13 00:33:44] ripcord : then why the high % support?
[2017-04-13 00:33:55] laisee : $$$$
[2017-04-13 00:34:14] ripcord : miners don't lose?
[2017-04-13 00:34:17] laisee : some ppl are desperate to prove SegWit can succeed in Bitcoin space.
[2017-04-13 00:34:26] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/65204g/antpool_doubled_their_hashrate_again/
[2017-04-13 00:34:28] laisee : Paid to signal for LTC
[2017-04-13 00:35:00] ripcord : interesting
[2017-04-13 00:35:45] rapidtrades : noone is paying them
[2017-04-13 00:35:48] laisee : as always, buy the rumour, sell on facts ... LTC will drop like stone once activation/security breach happens.
[2017-04-13 00:36:04] rapidtrades : so far it cost miners nothiing to signal segwit
[2017-04-13 00:36:15] rapidtrades : it keeps customers happy
[2017-04-13 00:36:23] laisee : yes, thats what I said @rapidtrades
[2017-04-13 00:36:27] rapidtrades : otherwise they might pick different pool
[2017-04-13 00:36:35] laisee : costs nothing when ur costs are being paid ....
[2017-04-13 00:36:56] rapidtrades : no...it costs nothing cos segwit can't be activated this period
[2017-04-13 00:37:13] rapidtrades : and when it got close, the hash mysteriously dropped to 60%
[2017-04-13 00:37:26] laisee : miners == mining pools. actual users mining doesn't matter much for LTC
[2017-04-13 00:37:30] rapidtrades : BU ppl have this under contro
[2017-04-13 00:37:41] rapidtrades : right i meant pools not miners
[2017-04-13 00:38:05] rapidtrades : pools have to keep miners happy by signalling segwit
[2017-04-13 00:38:11] laisee : There is some funny stuff going on both sides and agendas
[2017-04-13 00:38:21] ripcord : hmm...seems like the "period" should be the last xxx blocks rather than a set group
[2017-04-13 00:38:33] rapidtrades : r/litecoin is very censored
[2017-04-13 00:38:34] laisee : hmmm. actual users don't give a sheisse for SegWit
[2017-04-13 00:39:10] rapidtrades : yeah its strange to see price up almost 3x over a fix LTC doesn't need
[2017-04-13 00:39:30] laisee : I think mining pools being paid to signal, and some pro-BU pools attempting to crash the party.
[2017-04-13 00:39:33] rapidtrades : seems like BTC ppl have migrated over here with their dreams
[2017-04-13 00:39:49] ripcord : true
[2017-04-13 00:40:14] laisee : dreams =/= nightmares, according to ur side ;-)
[2017-04-13 00:40:17] ripcord : and they're right so far