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[2017-04-12 15:00:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 62.85 / 37.15 Daily : 44.31 / 55.69 Weekly : 42.94 / 57.06 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-12 15:14:29] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 15:14:32] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 41.58 / 58.42 Daily : 44.27 / 55.73 Weekly : 42.94 / 57.06 Monthly : 50.64 / 49.36```
[2017-04-12 15:26:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 22 @ 0.01003
[2017-04-12 15:30:32] aethlios : How much of the hashing power is signaling CSV support? About 2158 GH/s, or 78.8% of the network (394 out of the last 500 blocks). How much of the hashing power is signaling SegWit support? About 2103 GH/s, or 76.8% of the network (384 out of the last 500 blocks).
[2017-04-12 15:31:15] Ahhere : aethlios: lol working hard today brah
[2017-04-12 15:34:28] rapidtrades : signalling now mans nothing
[2017-04-12 15:34:44] thomaskikansha : 75.17%
[2017-04-12 15:35:17] rapidtrades : at least we know the post segwit top
[2017-04-12 15:36:40] L9 : Trying to sell 250 contracts just one executed.
[2017-04-12 15:38:39] sleger : try 20000 maybe you will have 250 executed
[2017-04-12 15:41:01] aethlios : rapidtrades: SW will never happen?? still believe it?? closed short??
[2017-04-12 15:42:28] aethlios : ltc ready for 17-18 next rally.
[2017-04-12 15:44:14] L9 : sleger: "Genius" response
[2017-04-12 15:46:46] sleger : what are you trying to do with 250 contracts ? make 50 cents ?
[2017-04-12 15:47:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 30 @ 0.01001
[2017-04-12 15:48:56] L9 : sleger: I am scalping on small trend
[2017-04-12 15:49:25] L9 : Just don't understand requotes on 250 cotracts, it was never like that :(
[2017-04-12 15:51:42] +1 : aethlios: thanks
[2017-04-12 15:52:14] aethlios : +1: for what??
[2017-04-12 15:52:56] +1 : aethlios: your response
[2017-04-12 15:55:12] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 15:55:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 45.18 / 54.82 Daily : 47.22 / 52.78 Weekly : 42.78 / 57.22 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-12 15:56:26] aethlios : sleger: rapid is quiet, must be still counting the short loses.
[2017-04-12 15:56:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 2 @ 0.052397
[2017-04-12 15:57:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 15 @ 0.052579
[2017-04-12 15:57:59] sleger : aethlios: btc up, ltc up, rapid down
[2017-04-12 15:58:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 42 @ 0.052826
[2017-04-12 15:59:01] aethlios : Old Lady Hitting rapid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCefWdcVJ-8
[2017-04-12 16:01:24] sleger : she's probably greek too
[2017-04-12 16:02:15] aethlios : in a greek island perhaps, best place to reinvest crypto profits.
[2017-04-12 16:02:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 10 @ 0.053269
[2017-04-12 16:03:30] Sutan : /price
[2017-04-12 16:03:33] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1219.16 (-0.32%) Bitfinex : 1231.40 (-0.26%) The Woodchipper : 1221.12 (0.11%) itBit : 1222.48 (-0.12%) Kraken : 1225.95 (0.08%) GDAX : 1219.33 (-0.13%) SLQ : 1 hour, 53 mins```
[2017-04-12 16:09:50] Secup : Has not crash yet?
[2017-04-12 16:11:15] alcapone : hello world
[2017-04-12 16:15:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 130 @ 1218.7
[2017-04-12 16:15:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1 @ 0.00980
[2017-04-12 16:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1218.6
[2017-04-12 16:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 4 @ 0.00971
[2017-04-12 16:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1 @ 0.00965
[2017-04-12 16:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1069 @ 0.00964
[2017-04-12 16:23:19] L9 : What the .....
[2017-04-12 16:23:37] KingTuna : LTC and BTC now positively correlated
[2017-04-12 16:23:43] KingTuna : up and down together
[2017-04-12 16:28:30] rapidtrades : they were always positively correlated
[2017-04-12 16:28:36] sleger : yes
[2017-04-12 16:28:40] rapidtrades : except now and during the halving
[2017-04-12 16:28:47] reyno : Rapid sucks d I c k
[2017-04-12 16:28:49] rapidtrades : so 95% of the time
[2017-04-12 16:29:08] sleger : looks like lorestr is back as reyno : MODS BAN
[2017-04-12 16:29:34] rapidtrades : reyno: why bra? i never had a beef with lorestr
[2017-04-12 16:29:41] rapidtrades : don't even know who that is
[2017-04-12 16:29:49] reyno : lmao I'm not lorestr just thought I'd add to the flaming
[2017-04-12 16:30:03] reyno : f u rapid
[2017-04-12 16:30:14] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-04-12 16:31:21] sleger : reyno deserves a ban
[2017-04-12 16:31:41] sleger : he also should have new parents to redo his education
[2017-04-12 16:32:20] KyllingLolsson : Bitmex team?
[2017-04-12 16:32:29] KyllingLolsson : Read the above
[2017-04-12 16:32:45] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 16:32:47] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 78.14 / 21.87 Daily : 49.42 / 50.58 Weekly : 43.01 / 56.99 Monthly : 50.66 / 49.34```
[2017-04-12 16:36:35] BitMEX_John : @sleger @KyllingLolsson lorestr has been dealt with, and his other accounts
[2017-04-12 16:37:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 10 @ 0.00002897
[2017-04-12 16:38:14] sleger : BitMEX_John: Did you "deal with him" like United Airlines would ?
[2017-04-12 16:38:40] Ahhere : lol politely escorted from the premesis
[2017-04-12 16:38:47] zqooN : the new "drag & drop" feature of UA
[2017-04-12 16:38:52] BitMEX_John : sleger: haha
[2017-04-12 16:39:15] Ahhere : drag and drop kick
[2017-04-12 16:40:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 400001 @ 0.00002917
[2017-04-12 16:41:13] KingTuna : hmm i guess BTCcould still be bullish. snaps back like an elastic band
[2017-04-12 16:41:22] KingTuna : sentiment/
[2017-04-12 16:41:29] KingTuna : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 16:41:31] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 79.02 / 20.98 Daily : 49.98 / 50.02 Weekly : 43.04 / 56.96 Monthly : 50.66 / 49.34```
[2017-04-12 16:43:38] KyllingLolsson : Btc looks sad on 4h candlestick
[2017-04-12 16:47:26] BitMEX_Greg : reyno: be civil please. This is your first warning
[2017-04-12 16:49:08] Ahhere : KingTuna: I'm building a long. Wish me luck
[2017-04-12 16:49:19] Ahhere : call me retraded
[2017-04-12 16:49:33] KingTuna : Ahhere: BTC?
[2017-04-12 16:49:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 59146 @ 0.00002842
[2017-04-12 16:49:40] Ahhere : KingTuna: i kno rite
[2017-04-12 16:50:01] KingTuna : could work
[2017-04-12 16:50:13] Ahhere : i think litecoins political shifts are bullish for bitcorn.
[2017-04-12 16:51:07] Ahhere : want to be in profit when we test 1300 so I can hold through the epic battle
[2017-04-12 16:51:13] Ahhere : famous last words
[2017-04-12 16:52:14] shiroe : should i buy more xrp or ltc? lol
[2017-04-12 16:54:18] jeeburns : finex support being thrown up
[2017-04-12 16:54:20] KingTuna : Ahhere: :)
[2017-04-12 16:55:00] KingTuna : 3am here almost, I hate sleeping lol
[2017-04-12 16:55:08] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: glhf! If this level holds until tomorrow, then i'll switch to bull
[2017-04-12 16:56:34] c.l : shiroe: ltc going down
[2017-04-12 17:01:07] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 17:01:09] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 75.23 / 24.77 Daily : 52.18 / 47.82 Weekly : 42.92 / 57.08 Monthly : 50.66 / 49.34```
[2017-04-12 17:03:52] shiroe : so everyone is long on ltc. nice
[2017-04-12 17:07:17] c.l : yup i'm open shorts from $12.4 :)
[2017-04-12 17:08:11] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 17:08:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 68.71 / 31.29 Daily : 52.06 / 47.94 Weekly : 42.91 / 57.09 Monthly : 50.66 / 49.34```
[2017-04-12 17:09:35] immackay : why is bitcoin not crashing yet
[2017-04-12 17:12:00] sleger : why should it be crashing ?
[2017-04-12 17:12:31] Madofff : xrp moving
[2017-04-12 17:12:48] shiroe : get that xrp to 5k!
[2017-04-12 17:13:21] alcapone : sell xrp
[2017-04-12 17:14:16] immackay : why should it not be crashing?
[2017-04-12 17:14:18] daz : Just saying... if BW Pool and F2Pool who are supporting SetWit on $LTC did so on Bitcoin, SegWit would have ~50% hashrate support
[2017-04-12 17:14:47] alcapone : immackay: lol, well said
[2017-04-12 17:15:12] alcapone : we have some experts here
[2017-04-12 17:15:18] alcapone : cheche
[2017-04-12 17:15:28] immackay : alcapone: I do what I can
[2017-04-12 17:15:38] alcapone : sure
[2017-04-12 17:15:51] alcapone : me2
[2017-04-12 17:16:08] Secup : Finex dismissing their caee against wells fargo?
[2017-04-12 17:16:35] alcapone : I need bot, any suggestions?
[2017-04-12 17:16:52] Secup : Just saw that on twitter
[2017-04-12 17:17:51] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 17:17:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 63.64 / 36.36 Daily : 52.24 / 47.76 Weekly : 42.90 / 57.10 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-12 17:18:19] alfaCharlie : is there any apple app for bitmex price alert ?
[2017-04-12 17:19:15] immackay : L9: what are you watching for
[2017-04-12 17:19:30] L9 : immackay: trend
[2017-04-12 17:20:02] L9 : Trend is your frend
[2017-04-12 17:20:08] L9 : :D
[2017-04-12 17:20:42] alcapone : L9: no, the best friend is wysky
[2017-04-12 17:20:57] alcapone : vodka
[2017-04-12 17:21:26] alcapone : crack
[2017-04-12 17:21:52] alcapone : and then u trade
[2017-04-12 17:21:58] immackay : methamphetamine for that extra trading pump
[2017-04-12 17:22:00] Secup : https://www.docdroid.net/XmoxNAe/dismissal.pdf.html
[2017-04-12 17:22:10] Secup : Not too sure if its real
[2017-04-12 17:24:54] binacoin : alts are pumping
[2017-04-12 17:29:43] MikeHunt : wells fargo has a strong position
[2017-04-12 17:30:14] Secup : What this means foe user withdrawal u think?
[2017-04-12 17:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 4 @ 0.053981
[2017-04-12 17:33:34] MikeHunt : Secup: finex is fucked
[2017-04-12 17:33:36] MikeHunt : for the time being
[2017-04-12 17:54:29] Secup : so it doesnt bother anyone they withdraw their case ?
[2017-04-12 17:56:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 2074 @ 0.00956
[2017-04-12 17:57:01] zqooN : ouch
[2017-04-12 17:58:50] Ahhere : doesnt bother btc-e
[2017-04-12 17:59:47] Ahhere : long like my lower parts
[2017-04-12 18:04:00] Secup : and they didnt notify anyone , sounds shady
[2017-04-12 18:04:10] Ahhere : Secup: i was notified
[2017-04-12 18:04:16] Secup : how ?
[2017-04-12 18:04:20] Ahhere : by pigeon
[2017-04-12 18:04:23] Secup : ahen
[2017-04-12 18:04:52] Ahhere : correction
[2017-04-12 18:05:00] Ahhere : over
[2017-04-12 18:15:50] emcor : can someone explain what the LTC CSV fork is? http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php
[2017-04-12 18:25:05] Coconuter : 4000 btc order on finex
[2017-04-12 18:26:24] Secup : ya , wtf
[2017-04-12 18:26:42] Secup : ok , gone
[2017-04-12 18:26:56] Coconuter : lol
[2017-04-12 18:27:04] Coconuter : gone untill he mkret buys
[2017-04-12 18:27:22] stf28 : Did i see a 4000btc buy order on bfx??
[2017-04-12 18:27:41] Secup : ya
[2017-04-12 18:27:45] Secup : it dropped to 1500 now
[2017-04-12 18:27:47] stf28 : Ok im not alone thought it was a bug !
[2017-04-12 18:27:53] L9 : Guys how long it takes for you to withdraw funds?
[2017-04-12 18:27:57] Secup : 2k
[2017-04-12 18:28:04] Secup : L9, 24 hours
[2017-04-12 18:28:11] stf28 : 4j
[2017-04-12 18:28:27] stf28 : 4k brings US easily to 1300
[2017-04-12 18:28:28] jayesh : He is adding it again in chunks
[2017-04-12 18:28:48] jayesh : 3.5k already added in 55 orders
[2017-04-12 18:29:26] Secup : back to 4k now
[2017-04-12 18:29:36] Threon : That's crazy :) 4000BTC back to buy orders on bfx: )
[2017-04-12 18:29:39] jayesh : yeah with multiple orders
[2017-04-12 18:29:54] Secup : i wonder who has 4+ million
[2017-04-12 18:30:00] Secup : and cant withdraw lol
[2017-04-12 18:30:02] bbggc : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 18:30:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.80 / 73.20 Daily : 51.77 / 48.23 Weekly : 42.91 / 57.09 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.36```
[2017-04-12 18:30:18] stf28 : Nice ! BTC will Moon soon :) prepare to see some mega positive funding soon
[2017-04-12 18:31:29] Threon : BTC to the moon :)!
[2017-04-12 18:35:00] alcapone : Threon: to the toilet
[2017-04-12 18:35:23] MikeHunt : like the wall from Game of Thrones
[2017-04-12 18:36:35] sleger : dat bid
[2017-04-12 18:38:31] Secup : ya, not wise to short right now hehe
[2017-04-12 18:38:53] alcapone : I shorted
[2017-04-12 18:39:06] alcapone : big
[2017-04-12 18:39:19] Secup : prob is , who wanna sell btc that they cant withdraw ?
[2017-04-12 18:40:09] alcapone : Secup: those who want alt
[2017-04-12 18:40:28] MikeHunt : alcapone: whats ur ROE like?
[2017-04-12 18:40:50] alcapone : MikeHunt: confid
[2017-04-12 18:41:02] alcapone : see u 1181
[2017-04-12 18:41:07] MikeHunt : alcapone: cuz it sounds like alcapone is going to have a second death
[2017-04-12 18:41:09] alcapone : into easter
[2017-04-12 18:41:12] justinlooking : https://www.jbs.cam.ac.uk/fileadmin/user_upload/research/centres/alternative-finance/downloads/2017-global-cryptocurrency-benchmarking-study.pdf
[2017-04-12 18:41:14] justinlooking : soz if respost
[2017-04-12 18:41:43] alcapone : MikeHunt: u talk your book I walk my profit
[2017-04-12 18:41:52] MikeHunt : alcapone: it may be 1180 in easter, but it may go a lot higher before then
[2017-04-12 18:42:11] alcapone : nop
[2017-04-12 18:42:42] MikeHunt : alcapone: why not higher now then?
[2017-04-12 18:43:25] alcapone : MikeHunt: u want money?
[2017-04-12 18:44:00] alcapone : or paralysis?
[2017-04-12 18:44:13] MikeHunt : alcapone: u seem to be unable to answer the question
[2017-04-12 18:44:34] alcapone : MikeHunt: lol
[2017-04-12 18:44:56] alcapone : see recent trades and be happy
[2017-04-12 18:45:43] MikeHunt : alcapone: on bitmex?
[2017-04-12 18:45:53] alcapone : so many idits these days
[2017-04-12 18:46:53] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 18:46:56] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.95 / 73.05 Daily : 51.72 / 48.28 Weekly : 42.88 / 57.12 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.36```
[2017-04-12 18:47:48] alcapone : MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181
[2017-04-12 18:48:03] alcapone : happy easter
[2017-04-12 18:48:09] alcapone : :D
[2017-04-12 18:48:48] Ahhere : and then next page on monday write dear diary, the easter bunny raped me.
[2017-04-12 18:50:10] Secup : i dont even think there is enough to cover the 4k order
[2017-04-12 18:52:41] Secup : jumpingh to 1226 now lol
[2017-04-12 18:52:45] Secup : getting despeerate
[2017-04-12 18:53:19] Ahhere : i dont often take the lords name in vain, but it is easter so JESUS
[2017-04-12 18:57:19] MikeHunt : alcapone: lol 1 min u say confid, now ur telling
[2017-04-12 18:57:59] MikeHunt : shorting a bullrun is very risky
[2017-04-12 18:58:05] MikeHunt : ive learned that on many occasions
[2017-04-12 18:58:10] Secup : heh
[2017-04-12 18:58:11] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 18:58:13] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 27.16 / 72.84 Daily : 51.54 / 48.46 Weekly : 42.84 / 57.17 Monthly : 50.64 / 49.36```
[2017-04-12 18:58:22] alcapone : MikeHunt: u have a problem reading my trade?
[2017-04-12 18:59:01] MikeHunt : alcapone: if that $4m bid gets hit on finex
[2017-04-12 18:59:03] MikeHunt : ur dead
[2017-04-12 18:59:11] Secup : that wont hit
[2017-04-12 18:59:38] alcapone : MikeHunt: its ages as gone
[2017-04-12 19:00:30] Secup : a real damn mess coming up
[2017-04-12 19:00:35] Secup : im quite sure :D
[2017-04-12 19:00:51] MikeHunt : alcapone: oh yeah, back to normal now
[2017-04-12 19:01:01] MikeHunt : Secup: finex is royally screwed
[2017-04-12 19:01:28] alcapone : MikeHunt: you trade history I bet
[2017-04-12 19:01:43] alcapone : not real time
[2017-04-12 19:01:45] alcapone : lol
[2017-04-12 19:06:16] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: just ignore him... ?
[2017-04-12 19:08:10] immackay : lmao at those thinking btc will moon
[2017-04-12 19:09:51] Ahhere : are we not mooning? thx in advance for insight.
[2017-04-12 19:09:59] Secup : no
[2017-04-12 19:10:20] Secup : finex , cannot process usd withdrawal
[2017-04-12 19:10:24] Ahhere : i knew there was a reason I frequent the trollbox. invaluable analyis right there
[2017-04-12 19:10:40] Secup : and just realised they cant sue us banking system
[2017-04-12 19:10:55] Secup : so now they are like wt f we do
[2017-04-12 19:11:07] Secup : and whale trying to get their money out
[2017-04-12 19:11:14] Secup : but they cant cause nobody wanna sell
[2017-04-12 19:11:22] Ahhere : worst case 180million gone forever. how much did they lose in the hack again?
[2017-04-12 19:12:18] immackay : Ahhere: how much did they gain from the hack?
[2017-04-12 19:12:33] Ahhere : many happy customers?
[2017-04-12 19:13:08] immackay : i mean
[2017-04-12 19:13:13] Ahhere : look if it is mtgox 2.0 we will go higher before we go lower. If its not, we just go higher. so overall, we go higher
[2017-04-12 19:13:41] shillosopher : pro analysis right there lol
[2017-04-12 19:14:04] Ahhere : yes in short, moon
[2017-04-12 19:14:16] Ahhere : or moo for shorter
[2017-04-12 19:14:35] Ahhere : i think i spent too much time talking to lorestr yesterday
[2017-04-12 19:18:26] Secup : well , finex could be removed from the index
[2017-04-12 19:18:39] Secup : since it will falsely increase the damn value
[2017-04-12 19:18:47] Ahhere : /price
[2017-04-12 19:18:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1220.99 (0.15%) Bitfinex : 1235.60 (0.34%) The Woodchipper : 1218.90 (-0.18%) itBit : 1221.40 (-0.09%) Kraken : 1221.27 (-0.38%) GDAX : 1219.10 (-0.02%) SLQ : 3 hours, 15 mins```
[2017-04-12 19:18:59] Ahhere : oh snap I see what you mean lol
[2017-04-12 19:19:17] Ahhere : annoying for shorts here
[2017-04-12 19:19:47] Secup : and if its removed from the index, and ppl see big ass prob with finex , they will freak the f out and sell
[2017-04-12 19:19:59] Secup : and thus
[2017-04-12 19:20:06] Secup : big bang boom
[2017-04-12 19:20:08] Ahhere : nah
[2017-04-12 19:21:04] hmmmYea : the squeeze could be crazy
[2017-04-12 19:21:14] hmmmYea : better to take it out as a precaution
[2017-04-12 19:21:48] Ahhere : finex daily volume is 14 million. This may seem like a problem with bitcoin, but this is an example of why bitcoin is better than fiat. The upward pressure is organic if you think about it.
[2017-04-12 19:22:28] hmmmYea : its example of why bitcoin might have some interoperability problems with fiat.
[2017-04-12 19:22:39] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 19:22:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 19.14 / 80.87 Daily : 49.28 / 50.72 Weekly : 42.56 / 57.44 Monthly : 50.62 / 49.38```
[2017-04-12 19:22:58] Ahhere : greshams law guy
[2017-04-12 19:22:58] hmmmYea : AML laws aren't the WOAT
[2017-04-12 19:23:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 4 @ 0.00976
[2017-04-12 19:23:41] hmmmYea : people applying gresham's law to bitcoin make my eyes roll
[2017-04-12 19:24:01] Ahhere : yeah cos economics doesnt apply
[2017-04-12 19:24:10] Ahhere : not real muney
[2017-04-12 19:24:10] hmmmYea : no it does
[2017-04-12 19:24:27] hmmmYea : just applying gresham's law to btc vs fiat is wrong
[2017-04-12 19:24:37] Ahhere : school me brehren
[2017-04-12 19:25:23] hmmmYea : ill try... if i fail, ill just point you to wikipedia?
[2017-04-12 19:25:54] hmmmYea : the tl;dr is that the "good money" and "bad money" have to have the same face value
[2017-04-12 19:25:55] Ahhere : ok lets go
[2017-04-12 19:27:00] hmmmYea : i can pay with a silver dollar or a paper dollar... and the merchant accepts both as equal.. then i pay with paper.. .bc my silver dollar holds onto to some optionality if later silver is worth more than a dollar
[2017-04-12 19:27:22] Ahhere : yes with u
[2017-04-12 19:27:24] hmmmYea : but bitcoin and dollars have floating exchange rate
[2017-04-12 19:27:53] hmmmYea : so... the optionality from the additional utility of owning bitcoin is being priced by the market
[2017-04-12 19:28:19] hmmmYea : so... gresham's law doesnt apply
[2017-04-12 19:28:52] hmmmYea : its a very widely believed idea... like literally everyone thinks it does
[2017-04-12 19:28:59] Ahhere : im not seeing how the two are different other than there is no bitcoin dollar bill
[2017-04-12 19:29:55] hmmmYea : there has to be a divergence bt the face value of the currencies and the market value of the currencies
[2017-04-12 19:30:24] hmmmYea : bitcoin is just another currency
[2017-04-12 19:30:49] hmmmYea : no one is transacting in zimbabwean dollars bc USD is the "good money"
[2017-04-12 19:30:51] hmmmYea : right?
[2017-04-12 19:31:02] Ahhere : from wiki: Good money is money that shows little difference between its nominal value (the face value of the coin) and its commodity value (the value of the metal of which it is made
[2017-04-12 19:31:36] Ahhere : you are saying that a dollar of bitcoin holds no benefit over a paper dollar
[2017-04-12 19:31:41] Ahhere : unlike a dollar of silver
[2017-04-12 19:31:47] Ahhere : if I understand you correctly?
[2017-04-12 19:32:18] hmmmYea : im saying that if you buy a "dollar of bitcoins" that extra utility is already in the fair market price
[2017-04-12 19:32:41] hmmmYea : and if the value of that utility changes your dollar of bitcoins will appreciate or depreciate against a USD
[2017-04-12 19:32:54] hmmmYea : Gresham's law states that any circulating currency consisting of both "good" and "bad" money (both forms required to be accepted at equal value under legal tender law)
[2017-04-12 19:33:06] hmmmYea : ^^ from the first line of the "theory" section
[2017-04-12 19:33:39] Ahhere : I understand. No government has falsely pegged it to a value not including its full 'intrinsic value'
[2017-04-12 19:33:40] L9 : Guys, what is your average ROE per trade?
[2017-04-12 19:33:55] hmmmYea : Ahhere: exactly
[2017-04-12 19:34:14] Ahhere : hmmmYea: i stand schooled
[2017-04-12 19:34:25] hmmmYea : lol
[2017-04-12 19:34:35] hmmmYea : im happy i was able to explain it to one soul
[2017-04-12 19:34:36] sleger : L9: are you asking all the traders here on average ?
[2017-04-12 19:34:41] sleger : because i know the answer
[2017-04-12 19:35:04] L9 : sleger: On average
[2017-04-12 19:35:15] L9 : Or median
[2017-04-12 19:35:18] sleger : on average people here make zero (excluding fees)
[2017-04-12 19:35:25] atlanta : About time!
[2017-04-12 19:35:26] hmmmYea : sleger: how original
[2017-04-12 19:35:27] sleger : median is probably negative
[2017-04-12 19:35:30] atlanta : ETH finally breaking out
[2017-04-12 19:35:55] Ahhere : hmmmYea: it was a nice way to call bitcoin good money and sound smart. thanks for taking that from me.
[2017-04-12 19:36:55] Ahhere : /grudge @hmmmYea
[2017-04-12 19:37:00] L9 : sleger: Average for profitable traders. E.g.mine ROE is 10-20% per trade depending on a volatility with max leverage
[2017-04-12 19:37:24] L9 : Currently most of my trades profitable
[2017-04-12 19:37:41] Ahhere : atlanta: i wouldnt call that much of a break out on the daily but glad I closed my short a few hours ago
[2017-04-12 19:38:19] sleger : L9: yes of course because as soon as you have a non profitable one your account will be zero
[2017-04-12 19:38:23] sleger : like most retail traders
[2017-04-12 19:38:29] hmmmYea : Ahhere: haahaha
[2017-04-12 19:38:45] Ahhere : hmmmYea: :D
[2017-04-12 19:39:22] L9 : sleger: It is also possible that most of your trades are zero but profitable trades cover non-profitable
[2017-04-12 19:39:57] atlanta : Ahhere: It's just getting started :)
[2017-04-12 19:40:13] Ahhere : what u targeting with your optimism
[2017-04-12 19:40:46] atlanta : Ahhere: 0.05s on ETHBTC
[2017-04-12 19:41:07] Ahhere : yeah that will happen for a retest at least Im sure
[2017-04-12 19:41:16] Ahhere : not as optimistic as I thought
[2017-04-12 19:41:30] atlanta : It's just first leg up
[2017-04-12 19:41:33] atlanta : Friday will go nuts
[2017-04-12 19:41:38] Ahhere : why friday lol
[2017-04-12 19:41:45] Ahhere : jesus dying?
[2017-04-12 19:42:10] atlanta : Something like that
[2017-04-12 19:42:12] atlanta : you'll see
[2017-04-12 19:42:16] atlanta : Watch ETHBTC
[2017-04-12 19:42:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 50 @ 0.03808
[2017-04-12 19:42:23] Ahhere : ah the old you'll see analysis
[2017-04-12 19:42:39] atlanta : haha nah, it's just a hyped date on reddit. I think something will happen.
[2017-04-12 19:42:45] atlanta : There's no basis, but you know.
[2017-04-12 19:43:05] atlanta : On polo someone just flashed a 68k buy wall of ETH
[2017-04-12 19:43:24] atlanta : on ETHBTC
[2017-04-12 19:44:51] alcapone : btc mooning....wow
[2017-04-12 19:45:57] Ahhere : there is so much stuff due to be tacked on to eth this year so there will be jumps. I want to long ethusd at some point for the party to 100 dollars. I guess when we make a new ath I'll jump back in
[2017-04-12 19:46:01] sleger : "[2017-04-12 13:12:49] alcapone : I sell xbt"
[2017-04-12 19:46:16] alcapone : sleger: so?
[2017-04-12 19:46:32] sleger : "[2017-04-12 13:31:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 220 @ 0.00993 [2017-04-12 13:32:23] alcapone : REKT: what is liquidated? [2017-04-12 13:32:39] zqooN : alcapone: rekt is a bot [2017-04-12 13:32:51] alcapone : wut?"
[2017-04-12 19:46:38] alcapone : [‎21‎:‎47] alcapone: MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181 happy easter
[2017-04-12 19:46:42] Ahhere : sleger: u still hodling your eths guy?
[2017-04-12 19:46:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 1400 @ 0.03881
[2017-04-12 19:46:54] atlanta : yo
[2017-04-12 19:46:54] atlanta : go
[2017-04-12 19:46:57] atlanta : ETHBTC Long now
[2017-04-12 19:47:05] sleger : now is 0.039
[2017-04-12 19:47:18] alcapone : sleger: help me ...[‎21‎:‎47] alcapone: MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181 happy easter
[2017-04-12 19:47:25] atlanta : Yes, been watching since 0.036
[2017-04-12 19:47:40] atlanta : 0.04 now
[2017-04-12 19:47:50] sleger : alcapone: you are REKT soon then
[2017-04-12 19:47:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 100 @ 0.03958
[2017-04-12 19:48:15] alcapone : sleger: idiot, read the trade
[2017-04-12 19:48:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 15 @ 0.04014
[2017-04-12 19:48:37] hmmmYea : shoot, whats this news?
[2017-04-12 19:48:41] hmmmYea : on da eth
[2017-04-12 19:48:42] Ahhere : pumpski
[2017-04-12 19:48:48] hmmmYea : Ahhere: skeptical of that
[2017-04-12 19:48:48] sleger : "[2017-04-12 18:47:48] alcapone : MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181" <= yes you are short dummy
[2017-04-12 19:48:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 1 @ 0.018180
[2017-04-12 19:49:11] alcapone : sleger: I am in green idiot
[2017-04-12 19:49:21] sleger : then you're a green liar
[2017-04-12 19:49:34] alcapone : sleger: [‎21‎:‎47] alcapone: MikeHunt: write it down sold xbt 1222, stop 1232, targer 1181 happy easter
[2017-04-12 19:49:47] sleger : yes you sold 1222, it has NOT moved since
[2017-04-12 19:49:51] ross : news on eth??
[2017-04-12 19:50:20] alcapone : sleger: read till end
[2017-04-12 19:51:08] sleger : you dont make sense newb
[2017-04-12 19:51:19] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 19:51:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.61 / 73.39 Daily : 48.61 / 51.39 Weekly : 42.49 / 57.51 Monthly : 50.61 / 49.39```
[2017-04-12 19:51:24] alcapone : sleger: whatever
[2017-04-12 19:52:01] alcapone : buy the moon of btc lol
[2017-04-12 19:52:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 5 @ 0.03838
[2017-04-12 19:52:30] Ahhere : that is a big ass eth spike
[2017-04-12 19:52:54] Ahhere : *was
[2017-04-12 19:56:08] atlanta : Wave 1
[2017-04-12 19:56:15] atlanta : Wave 2 inc
[2017-04-12 19:57:20] Tetsuo : ETH <3
[2017-04-12 20:02:15] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 20:02:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 46.44 / 53.56 Daily : 49.80 / 50.20 Weekly : 42.69 / 57.31 Monthly : 50.63 / 49.37```
[2017-04-12 20:05:22] 123abc : XMR exploding
[2017-04-12 20:16:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 1169 @ 0.00964
[2017-04-12 20:21:48] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 20:21:50] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 62.67 / 37.33 Daily : 49.98 / 50.02 Weekly : 42.68 / 57.32 Monthly : 50.63 / 49.37```
[2017-04-12 20:22:01] Secup : sentiment is big crash incoming
[2017-04-12 20:22:06] Secup : and eth rise
[2017-04-12 20:22:16] stf28 : maybe the 4k bid purpose was to create some kind of buying support...
[2017-04-12 20:22:26] Secup : i think so too
[2017-04-12 20:27:05] MikeHunt : stf28: or a reminder to bears that the end is nigh?
[2017-04-12 20:31:05] sleger : ^ he is making a WHOLE TWO dollars so far, impressive stuff
[2017-04-12 20:32:08] justinlooking : thy will be rekt
[2017-04-12 20:32:31] sleger : ^ lorestr is back
[2017-04-12 20:33:46] sleger : yep, same IQ, its him
[2017-04-12 20:33:53] MikeHunt : i just hope that $4m bid comes back just to rekt alcapoo
[2017-04-12 20:34:35] sleger : any MOD around ?
[2017-04-12 20:34:42] coinspredator : BTC avalanche incoming
[2017-04-12 20:37:47] justinlooking : coinspredator: hope so, feels cheap here but lower is better ;)
[2017-04-12 20:39:18] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 20:39:21] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 69.63 / 30.37 Daily : 49.90 / 50.10 Weekly : 42.66 / 57.34 Monthly : 50.63 / 49.37```
[2017-04-12 20:57:58] arbitrage101 : yo
[2017-04-12 20:58:01] arbitrage101 : how things go
[2017-04-12 21:00:13] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: Yes
[2017-04-12 21:01:38] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: He has now been chat banned
[2017-04-12 21:02:37] sleger : so many bad trolls these days...
[2017-04-12 21:03:02] BitMEX_Greg : just @ me in the future, it will reach me sooner
[2017-04-12 21:03:04] KyllingLolsson : Where is the real artist trolls
[2017-04-12 21:08:17] finnagetdooped : eth<3
[2017-04-12 21:09:22] arbitrage101 : eth going up too slow
[2017-04-12 21:09:29] arbitrage101 : btc refuse to die
[2017-04-12 21:09:49] arbitrage101 : old king must die before new king can rule
[2017-04-12 21:10:23] arbitrage101 : oh noes
[2017-04-12 21:10:29] arbitrage101 : kraken offering dash trading
[2017-04-12 21:10:37] arbitrage101 : more temporary pain for shorty
[2017-04-12 21:11:50] KyllingLolsson : finnagetdooped: who are you
[2017-04-12 21:17:10] hmmmYea : kraken is such garbage, but they seem to be work hard to reinvent themselves
[2017-04-12 21:17:15] hmmmYea : working*
[2017-04-12 21:21:06] arbitrage101 : hmmmYea: all exchanges started out shitty
[2017-04-12 21:26:56] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 21:26:59] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.63 / 38.37 Daily : 50.22 / 49.78 Weekly : 42.58 / 57.42 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-12 21:28:59] rapidtrades : https://news.bitcoin.com/bitfinex-withdraws-lawsuit-wells-fargo/
[2017-04-12 21:29:08] rapidtrades : and stil not processing USD withdrawals
[2017-04-12 21:29:11] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-12 21:29:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1212.53 (-0.69%) Bitfinex : 1225.00 (-0.86%) The Woodchipper : 1213.20 (-0.47%) itBit : 1214.14 (-0.59%) Kraken : 1212.14 (-0.75%) GDAX : 1211.16 (-0.65%) SLQ : 2 hours, 10 mins```
[2017-04-12 21:29:29] rapidtrades : @bitmex time to axe them
[2017-04-12 21:29:49] rapidtrades : let's do it now before price spikes to $1500
[2017-04-12 21:30:44] Ahhere : woodchipper was way worse
[2017-04-12 21:31:10] BitMEX_Greg : We are still monitoring. It seems like FUD that they are not processing withdrawals, or rather it is not clear yet. Under the impression they are able to process USD withdrawals via other means?
[2017-04-12 21:31:53] rapidtrades : ETH spiked at same time as Trump made that weak dollar statement/
[2017-04-12 21:31:54] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-04-12 21:32:16] Ahhere : pumpski
[2017-04-12 21:32:33] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/64z2pd/bitfinex_withdraws_wells_fargo_lawsuit/
[2017-04-12 21:32:47] rapidtrades : ppl in that thread say they can't get their USD from weeks ago
[2017-04-12 21:33:18] rapidtrades : Euro still undervalued here
[2017-04-12 21:33:41] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 21:33:44] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 74.17 / 25.83 Daily : 51.54 / 48.46 Weekly : 42.61 / 57.39 Monthly : 50.66 / 49.34```
[2017-04-12 21:34:40] L9 : BitMEX_Greg: Are there plans to implement opening multiple positions on the same contract?
[2017-04-12 21:34:46] rapidtrades : Once the new period starts you'll see the BU ppl crank up their miners
[2017-04-12 21:35:02] rapidtrades : turning them on now is just waste of money
[2017-04-12 21:35:09] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: We will keep monitoring. It is something we are aware of
[2017-04-12 21:35:41] rapidtrades : but they'd want to start right away cos if they let segwit gain it will get exponentially harder to block later
[2017-04-12 21:35:46] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: alright
[2017-04-12 21:35:57] BitMEX_Greg : L9: Not a priority at this stage. We are looking at doing something of this sort however. In the meantime you can open up a second account to achieve this. You can email us to set up a master/sub relationship to transfer funds immediately between the two accounts too.
[2017-04-12 21:36:14] rapidtrades : LTC back <10 on Friday or Saturday
[2017-04-12 21:37:23] rapidtrades : also we haven't had a flash crash on LTC during this entire pump, seems overdue considering how crowded the long side is
[2017-04-12 21:38:22] rapidtrades : a smart long would figure that segwit is not worth 170% gain anyway and get out...but LTC ppl are not very smart
[2017-04-12 21:39:04] rapidtrades : china almost $3 below west, completely not buying this leveraged pump
[2017-04-12 21:39:21] rapidtrades : exactly 30% discount for the lazy
[2017-04-12 21:40:02] rapidtrades : the bitcoin discount is 15% (cos i know some turd will pipe in with muh withdrawals)
[2017-04-12 21:40:49] arbitrage101 : btc makes all time high
[2017-04-12 21:40:58] arbitrage101 : time for ltc to make all time high
[2017-04-12 21:41:03] arbitrage101 : every dog has his day
[2017-04-12 21:43:18] mdsmm : make me richhhh
[2017-04-12 21:43:46] arbitrage101 : anyone who go long in bubble make money
[2017-04-12 21:44:02] KyllingLolsson : Lol
[2017-04-12 21:45:52] Tetsuo : 14$ LTC soon
[2017-04-12 21:46:44] Ahhere : ^^true story
[2017-04-12 21:46:55] Ahhere : charlie said so
[2017-04-12 21:47:05] mdsmm : I'm here way before any bubble
[2017-04-12 21:47:09] mdsmm : i was here*
[2017-04-12 21:47:19] Ahhere : are you here?
[2017-04-12 21:47:28] mdsmm : Ah you mean here
[2017-04-12 21:47:33] Ahhere : lol
[2017-04-12 21:47:36] mdsmm : Ahhere
[2017-04-12 21:47:43] Ahhere : ;)
[2017-04-12 21:48:20] mdsmm : and out again
[2017-04-12 21:48:25] mdsmm : Got no time to trade a lot :(
[2017-04-12 21:48:26] frog : rapidtrades: will need some news short have high exposure with LTC, there has been heavy shorting down to 9 with no real covering, if price gets to 13 it may pop to 16-17
[2017-04-12 21:48:31] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: too late u already covered 70%
[2017-04-12 21:49:08] rapidtrades : frog: proof?
[2017-04-12 21:49:37] frog : dont believe me then please show your proof
[2017-04-12 21:49:44] frog : its up to you
[2017-04-12 21:50:27] frog : lack of flash crash sound like pump and dump speak
[2017-04-12 21:51:07] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: did u bail out already?
[2017-04-12 21:51:23] arbitrage101 : alt coin going up
[2017-04-12 21:51:28] arbitrage101 : seeing all green
[2017-04-12 21:51:45] arbitrage101 : go baby
[2017-04-12 21:52:13] aguia7 : /price
[2017-04-12 21:52:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1212.29 (-0.02%) Bitfinex : 1227.80 (0.23%) The Woodchipper : 1212.18 (-0.08%) itBit : 1214.41 (0.02%) Kraken : 1217.00 (0.40%) GDAX : 1212.05 (0.07%) SLQ : 23 mins```
[2017-04-12 21:53:13] frog : LTC segwit support 79.5% last 576 blocks
[2017-04-12 21:53:59] aguia7 : 1308 usd localbitcoins
[2017-04-12 21:54:24] aguia7 : much difference
[2017-04-12 21:54:39] frog : hard to see people increasing their exiting short positions on LTC
[2017-04-12 21:54:45] frog : existing
[2017-04-12 21:56:17] rapidtrades : think its time to call it quits and come back few months after the bubble bursts
[2017-04-12 21:56:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 602 @ 0.056163
[2017-04-12 21:56:43] arbitrage101 : technology bubble last for decades
[2017-04-12 21:56:58] frog : everything looks strong with coin atm whether bubble or not time will tell
[2017-04-12 21:57:05] arbitrage101 : internet took off big after 30 years
[2017-04-12 21:57:15] arbitrage101 : amazon is eating up all retail shopping mall right now
[2017-04-12 21:57:23] arbitrage101 : so is alibaba
[2017-04-12 21:57:23] frog : valuations can vary wildly both ways
[2017-04-12 21:58:17] rapidtrades : this is bullshit and almost every knows it, they just hope they wont be the last one standing when music stops
[2017-04-12 21:58:44] arbitrage101 : pretty sure shorty will fall long before the bubble bust
[2017-04-12 21:59:06] frog : if there is market crash will coin behave like gold?
[2017-04-12 21:59:48] rapidtrades : yes a virtual coin that pumps on tweets will behave exactly like gold
[2017-04-12 22:00:04] frog : so will go up?
[2017-04-12 22:00:17] arbitrage101 : you can build distributed application on coin
[2017-04-12 22:00:35] arbitrage101 : and e-commerce system that by pass banking and gov regulation
[2017-04-12 22:00:50] frog : there has been no crash since start of bitcoin so hard to say but can argue both ways
[2017-04-12 22:00:51] aguia7 : . who got this consolidation. Buy sell, sell buy, buy sell, sell buy.........Who operated like this got rich today. http://www.tradingview.com/x/1kEHNHIW
[2017-04-12 22:03:39] aguia7 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJAk2BAKrdI
[2017-04-12 22:11:16] rapidtrades : june back to crazy discounts