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[2017-04-11 21:56:37] KyllingLolsson : Based on the last time this kind of volatility occured
[2017-04-11 21:57:04] Secup : it will crash
[2017-04-11 21:57:08] Secup : and btc price as well
[2017-04-11 21:57:10] Tetsuo : CRSAH
[2017-04-11 21:57:11] Nick Leeson : On the positive side, Bitfinex should be very solvent, and made record volume last month; 2 billion usd, which is impressive. Japan just made Bitcoin legit. And positive news from Russia regarding the same thing. Not bullish or bearish, but a little perspective.
[2017-04-11 21:57:13] Tetsuo : DOOM
[2017-04-11 21:57:15] Tetsuo : PAIN
[2017-04-11 21:57:18] Tetsuo : SORROW
[2017-04-11 21:57:26] KyllingLolsson : Noo... Cheaper coins
[2017-04-11 21:57:29] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-11 21:57:31] Secup : yep
[2017-04-11 21:57:41] Tetsuo : but first let´s drive Finex prices high
[2017-04-11 21:57:43] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: once you warned them, it is a fair game to exploit any bug they didnt take action
[2017-04-11 21:57:49] Secup : it drives by itself
[2017-04-11 21:57:53] Secup : cause ppl cant take out
[2017-04-11 21:57:58] Secup : so they take out in btc
[2017-04-11 21:58:14] Tetsuo : Nick Leeson: they might be solvent, but they are also criminals
[2017-04-11 21:58:24] Secup : any prob on a exchange is a major issue lol
[2017-04-11 21:58:27] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: even if you didnt warn them, it is a fair game to exploit anyway
[2017-04-11 21:58:31] MikeHunt : and with buy orders far surpassing sell orders it could sky rocket
[2017-04-11 21:58:49] Secup : not more thanb 1403 pls
[2017-04-11 21:58:52] MikeHunt : finex goes supa nova
[2017-04-11 21:58:53] Secup : at my rekt price :D
[2017-04-11 21:59:00] MikeHunt : Secup: hows ur RoE ?
[2017-04-11 21:59:16] Secup : well i just started shorting
[2017-04-11 21:59:21] Tetsuo : i hope that tehy will at least exit pump my remaining LTC with it
[2017-04-11 21:59:24] Secup : -14%
[2017-04-11 21:59:32] Nick Leeson : Tetsuo: On that we kind of agree. I'm just interested in the market. And worst thing for market is exchange insolvency.
[2017-04-11 21:59:33] MikeHunt : should be alright
[2017-04-11 21:59:42] arbitrage101 : i still do not think finex is solvent at this point
[2017-04-11 22:00:00] Tetsuo : Nick Leeson: funds might get freezed, as they are now , which makes them insolvent
[2017-04-11 22:00:43] arbitrage101 : solvency is when asset > liability
[2017-04-11 22:00:48] Nick Leeson : Tetsuo: Not so sure about that. But let's see. It's definitely a risk factor.
[2017-04-11 22:00:54] arbitrage101 : not withdrawal freeze
[2017-04-11 22:01:55] MikeHunt : finex could just rewire it
[2017-04-11 22:01:59] MikeHunt : use funds to buy up btc
[2017-04-11 22:02:03] MikeHunt : so ppl can withdraw
[2017-04-11 22:02:13] KyllingLolsson : Better call willie nelson
[2017-04-11 22:03:07] Nick Leeson : KyllingLolsson: Better call Saul
[2017-04-11 22:03:20] Secup : why would Wells Fargo block anyways ?
[2017-04-11 22:03:42] Secup : plus , isnt all usd transfer goes trough JP ?
[2017-04-11 22:03:47] KyllingLolsson : Haha love that one @Nick Leeson
[2017-04-11 22:04:02] MikeHunt : Secup: apparently they blocked taiwanese banks
[2017-04-11 22:04:16] MikeHunt : could be a china-trump deal/issue
[2017-04-11 22:04:34] MikeHunt : "kill btc and you get to bomb NK"
[2017-04-11 22:04:43] Secup : hmm hmm
[2017-04-11 22:05:21] Secup : anyways , as history showed
[2017-04-11 22:05:31] Secup : in that price range , there is a lways a fuck up somewhere to make the btc crash
[2017-04-11 22:05:52] Secup : so i waiting ..
[2017-04-11 22:05:53] Secup : :D
[2017-04-11 22:06:02] Secup : with a rekt price at 1403
[2017-04-11 22:07:15] Newmex : soooo many people short. definitely will squeeze to at least 1270
[2017-04-11 22:07:55] Tetsuo : can´t wait till freshly "china opens widraws again" coins and Finex coins appear on coinbase and Stamp to be sold
[2017-04-11 22:08:28] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: would be interesting time to watch price action
[2017-04-11 22:08:30] Nick Leeson : If I shorted everytime there was bitcoin doom in the horizon, I would be eternally short in Bitcoin, and insolvent long ago. If it's not an exchange crashing, then it's PBOC, or Maxwell & Co, or US Gov freezing funds, or...
[2017-04-11 22:09:03] arbitrage101 : Nick Leeson: many long time holders lose due to scam
[2017-04-11 22:09:19] arbitrage101 : lost wallet and hacked exchange
[2017-04-11 22:09:50] arbitrage101 : jog time for me
[2017-04-11 22:09:51] arbitrage101 : later
[2017-04-11 22:10:12] zqooN : you dont like running
[2017-04-11 22:10:22] Nick Leeson : arbitrage101: Yes, so they did unsmart things. That will make you lose money. Later happy jog!
[2017-04-11 22:16:48] Tetsuo : http://i.imgur.com/O7IWseg.png
[2017-04-11 22:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1240 @ 0.002084
[2017-04-11 22:36:05] Secup : Not down yet?
[2017-04-11 22:36:20] stf28 : /price
[2017-04-11 22:36:23] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1222.75 (-0.19%) Bitfinex : 1238.90 (0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1224.33 (-0.26%) itBit : 1229.50 (-0.10%) Kraken : 1227.99 (0.00%) GDAX : 1227.89 (-0.04%) SLQ : 43 mins```
[2017-04-11 22:36:32] MikeHunt : buy wall on finex
[2017-04-11 22:36:53] Secup : Well ya cauee they stukc
[2017-04-11 22:37:02] Diplomata : /sentiment
[2017-04-11 22:37:04] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 24.85 / 75.15 Daily : 40.63 / 59.37 Weekly : 43.41 / 56.59 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-11 22:38:20] Poo : does anyone know which exchange leads the market?
[2017-04-11 22:38:35] Secup : Finex
[2017-04-11 22:38:42] Secup : With stuxk withdrawal
[2017-04-11 22:38:49] Secup : So doom inc
[2017-04-11 22:39:08] MikeHunt : btc basically like bus from speed
[2017-04-11 22:39:11] MikeHunt : cant slow down
[2017-04-11 22:39:15] Poo : withdrawals are only limited to the US right?
[2017-04-11 22:39:22] MikeHunt : yeh
[2017-04-11 22:39:26] MikeHunt : i think
[2017-04-11 22:39:28] Poo : bloody americans always messing shiz up
[2017-04-11 22:39:30] Tetsuo : no
[2017-04-11 22:39:38] Poo : no?
[2017-04-11 22:39:43] MikeHunt : depends how much wells fargo managed
[2017-04-11 22:39:47] MikeHunt : manages*
[2017-04-11 22:40:00] L9 : /price
[2017-04-11 22:40:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1223.03 (0.02%) Bitfinex : 1238.40 (-0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1224.46 (0.01%) itBit : 1229.50 (0.00%) Kraken : 1227.72 (-0.02%) GDAX : 1227.66 (-0.02%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-11 22:41:06] Tetsuo : MikeHunt: Poo shut up
[2017-04-11 22:41:10] Poo : so limited to wells fargo clients and any bank that uses them as an intermediary, cant imagine that many outside US tbh
[2017-04-11 22:41:15] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-11 22:41:17] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.90 / 69.10 Daily : 40.88 / 59.13 Weekly : 43.40 / 56.60 Monthly : 50.64 / 49.36```
[2017-04-11 22:42:09] Poo : Tetsuo: do you have a problem?
[2017-04-11 22:43:21] MikeHunt : Poo: hes short
[2017-04-11 22:44:21] Poo : MikeHunt: so he has to be dick?
[2017-04-11 22:44:46] Poo : good im glad hes short, someone needs to feed the longs
[2017-04-11 23:02:01] aethlios : what's the problem with finex??
[2017-04-11 23:03:42] startChat : aethlios: Their intermediary bank to US customers (wells fargo) is blocking wires
[2017-04-11 23:04:56] aethlios : startChat: the news from previous days, anything new about that?? you try to explain the premium in finex?? can non us customers withdraw??
[2017-04-11 23:04:59] Secup : Finex should be delisted
[2017-04-11 23:05:04] aethlios : usd?
[2017-04-11 23:05:12] Secup : It causing fake increase in index
[2017-04-11 23:05:33] startChat : aethlios: yes
[2017-04-11 23:05:36] Secup : Major buy wall, no selling
[2017-04-11 23:06:51] aethlios : they have tether also, why not ot use tether?
[2017-04-11 23:07:13] Secup : Cause ppl dont want that heh
[2017-04-11 23:07:58] aethlios : exchanges you can trust go to shit now, okcoin futures is off, if no finex then what is left?
[2017-04-11 23:15:12] MikeHunt : delist it after we've topped
[2017-04-11 23:15:32] MikeHunt : also some outflow is possible from finex
[2017-04-11 23:15:36] MikeHunt : so cant delist
[2017-04-11 23:21:22] startChat : @bitmex_sam: any update on U2F 2 factor?
[2017-04-11 23:21:43] BitMEX_Greg : startChat: Sam's away at the moment. I'll ping him when he's back
[2017-04-11 23:21:49] L9 : Are admins here?
[2017-04-11 23:22:07] BitMEX_Greg : L9: Yes
[2017-04-11 23:22:07] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/851724648479838208
[2017-04-11 23:23:27] L9 : @BitMEX_Greg do you have any market makers or liquidity providers in here. I'd like to try other instruments than BTCUSD but with 20 level order book and such big spreads it is impossible
[2017-04-11 23:24:47] BitMEX_Greg : L9: Yes we have an anchor market maker on the main contracts. They quote as tight as they can given with how they can hedge
[2017-04-11 23:27:04] L9 : @BitMEX_Greg would the same features be available for e.g. ripple instruments?
[2017-04-11 23:30:08] Poo : Where is the volatility..
[2017-04-11 23:30:30] Poo : market is about as fun to watch as getting your nuts cayght in a zipper
[2017-04-11 23:30:34] Poo : im going to bed
[2017-04-11 23:30:38] Poo : night
[2017-04-11 23:34:53] L9 : /price /sentiment
[2017-04-11 23:35:06] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-11 23:35:09] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 53.42 / 46.58 Daily : 40.94 / 59.06 Weekly : 43.51 / 56.49 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-04-11 23:37:18] L9 : /price
[2017-04-11 23:37:20] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1223.02 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1237.00 (-0.11%) The Woodchipper : 1224.76 (0.02%) itBit : 1226.86 (-0.21%) Kraken : 1226.73 (-0.08%) GDAX : 1225.75 (-0.16%) SLQ : 57 mins```
[2017-04-11 23:51:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 106 @ 1215.4
[2017-04-11 23:55:44] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkAvf5j_dfs
[2017-04-12 00:00:10] mark121 : baba yaga
[2017-04-12 00:00:25] mark121 : russian boogeyman?
[2017-04-12 00:01:31] perolosopher : /price
[2017-04-12 00:01:33] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1219.97 (-0.25%) Bitfinex : 1235.60 (-0.11%) The Woodchipper : 1223.00 (-0.14%) itBit : 1224.81 (-0.17%) Kraken : 1221.45 (-0.43%) GDAX : 1224.49 (-0.10%) SLQ : 24 mins```
[2017-04-12 00:02:51] mark121 : certainly an uplifting and happiness inspiring jam :p
[2017-04-12 00:02:55] mark121 : who needs anti depressants!
[2017-04-12 00:07:09] sleger : everyone when they listen to you
[2017-04-12 00:07:23] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-12 00:07:32] mark121 : in your own words "english please"
[2017-04-12 00:08:17] mark121 : however im not lame and desperate so
[2017-04-12 00:08:20] mark121 : i take it back
[2017-04-12 00:08:46] ronensinger : FUck me
[2017-04-12 00:17:29] sleger : that was perfect english, sorry
[2017-04-12 00:17:49] sleger : are you like lorestr and have engrish issues ?
[2017-04-12 00:18:00] mark121 : i imagine you really believe that
[2017-04-12 00:18:28] sleger : "sleger: everyone when they listen to you" <= where is the english mistake ?
[2017-04-12 00:18:29] mark121 : but what of the irony?
[2017-04-12 00:18:42] mark121 : u can speak but cant read or what?
[2017-04-12 00:19:00] sleger : correct, please enlighten me
[2017-04-12 00:19:37] mark121 : 3rd line 1st reply
[2017-04-12 00:19:45] mark121 : Act 1 Verse 3
[2017-04-12 00:20:17] sleger : sleger: everyone when they listen to you mark121: in your own words "english please"
[2017-04-12 00:20:22] sleger : nothing in between
[2017-04-12 00:20:32] KingTuna : mark121: Have you done any TA that will look past $3 movements big boy? I look a little longer
[2017-04-12 00:20:40] KingTuna : ;)
[2017-04-12 00:21:09] ripcord : lol
[2017-04-12 00:21:10] sleger : KingTuna: you listen to him ? he is a fraud ...
[2017-04-12 00:21:12] mark121 : Sleger, you are boring l
[2017-04-12 00:21:27] mark121 : Oh, wait 2/3 members of the A-Team
[2017-04-12 00:21:45] mark121 : [20:07] mark121: in your own words "english please" however im not lame and desperate so i take it back
[2017-04-12 00:21:50] sleger : mark121: by the way, we all had a great laugh earlier looking at your convo with lorestr, planet of the apes remix
[2017-04-12 00:21:55] KingTuna : What's the prospect for BTC, what's the prospect for alts Mr Kantardziski?
[2017-04-12 00:22:44] mark121 : boys boys
[2017-04-12 00:22:46] sleger : what does a 20 yo thats not working at bridgewater although he pretended to would know ?
[2017-04-12 00:22:52] ripcord : KingTuna: he'll tell you after it makes a move
[2017-04-12 00:22:58] foobar : BitMEX_Greg: where can i get additional documentation on the order types? (MarketIfTouched, LimitIfTouched, MarketWithLeftOverAsLimit, and Pegged)
[2017-04-12 00:23:00] KingTuna : LOL
[2017-04-12 00:23:19] sleger : his email bounces,Ray Dalio forgot to give his big boy an email address
[2017-04-12 00:23:21] mark121 : KingTuna: What caused you to suddenly be so aggresive, may I ask?
[2017-04-12 00:23:33] mark121 : sleger: LOL
[2017-04-12 00:23:33] sleger : people dont like liars and frauds
[2017-04-12 00:23:39] mark121 : keep up the good work
[2017-04-12 00:23:44] mark121 : U are SO close
[2017-04-12 00:23:49] KingTuna : 2ML of testosterone ethanate
[2017-04-12 00:24:01] mark121 : 2ml? per week?
[2017-04-12 00:24:09] sleger : mark121: exposing frauds one after another, since 2014 (bitmex start)
[2017-04-12 00:25:12] sleger : mark121: anyways, please enlighten all of us, which coin do you see as taking a lot of power over the next 12 months ?
[2017-04-12 00:25:13] aethlios : Hello traders, we are now in a very dark period of crypto. china bans chinese exchanges withdrawals, now bitvc stopped withdrawals, fear for okcoin futures. WF in war with finex, shitty chinese miners ban SW adoption to all coins (watch what happens in vtc). I requested a usd withdraw from finex to test what happens.
[2017-04-12 00:25:21] Tetsuo : sleger=SCAM BUSTER
[2017-04-12 00:25:51] sleger : aethlios: why you did that ?
[2017-04-12 00:26:00] sleger : you should have transfered usdt somewhere else
[2017-04-12 00:26:01] mark121 : sleger: You only expose your fragile ego, likely miserable existence and clear lack of anything resembling critical thought
[2017-04-12 00:26:25] mark121 : May I point out one enormous oddity
[2017-04-12 00:26:26] sleger : mark121: and ... everybody agrees with me
[2017-04-12 00:26:38] sleger : except lorestr
[2017-04-12 00:26:42] sleger : says a lot ....
[2017-04-12 00:26:42] aethlios : sleger: i thought that also, how usdt work in finex? you claim them in withdraw section?
[2017-04-12 00:27:04] sleger : aethlios: yes, i did it few months ago, to polo, and bought btc there and withdrew to my wallet
[2017-04-12 00:27:06] aethlios : sleger: kraken has usdt and we can sell there
[2017-04-12 00:27:22] sleger : only took 10 minutes on finex
[2017-04-12 00:27:35] aethlios : sleger: ok will try that also, thanks.
[2017-04-12 00:27:39] KingTuna : I think the best bet is to not listen to ANYONE here.. I have done very well thus far not doing so. Use this box only to talk shit and enagage with other likeminded traders ...
[2017-04-12 00:27:40] mark121 : Are you unable to realize that likely no matter they would? Do you think I would jeopardize anything to prove something to you? why do u matter to me lol
[2017-04-12 00:27:47] mark121 : Anyhow
[2017-04-12 00:27:59] mark121 : u clearly have some issues u gotta deal with
[2017-04-12 00:28:07] KingTuna : Mark had I listened to you, I would have lost 1/3 of my capital minimum, on BTC and alts, based on minisule movements
[2017-04-12 00:28:13] KingTuna : miniscule*
[2017-04-12 00:28:16] mark121 : this isnt a lie, I wish u the best
[2017-04-12 00:28:22] KingTuna : Sorry but its the harsh reality
[2017-04-12 00:28:58] ripcord : [20:27] mark121: Are you unable to realize that likely no matter they would?
[2017-04-12 00:28:59] ripcord : what?
[2017-04-12 00:29:34] sleger : KingTuna: you trade alts, btc only ? algo ? systematic ?
[2017-04-12 00:29:55] mark121 : only you and god may know what exactly happened to make you such a hostile, desperate and fragile person...
[2017-04-12 00:30:10] mark121 : but allow me to myself clear
[2017-04-12 00:30:26] ripcord : ok bro
[2017-04-12 00:30:59] ripcord : coming from mark "I'm better than you" kantardziski
[2017-04-12 00:30:59] Tetsuo : i give mark 6 weeks to remain (max)
[2017-04-12 00:31:10] sleger : i dont know
[2017-04-12 00:31:16] sleger : cause he might not even be trading
[2017-04-12 00:31:20] sleger : or not his own money
[2017-04-12 00:31:36] ripcord : he's probably trading, but losing big
[2017-04-12 00:31:37] mark121 : tetsuo, sleger gave me 2 weeks
[2017-04-12 00:31:41] mark121 : 5 months ago
[2017-04-12 00:31:45] foobar : BitMEX_Greg: sorry i stepped away, are there docs on MarketIfTouched, LimitIfTouched, MarketWithLeftOverAsLimit, and Pegged?
[2017-04-12 00:31:57] sleger : mark121: you have NOT been here for 5 months
[2017-04-12 00:31:58] mark121 : Sorry, allow me to point somethin out that requires attention
[2017-04-12 00:32:10] Tetsuo : mark121: sry i can´t believe anything you say liar
[2017-04-12 00:32:10] mark121 : U mean I have not used trollbox for 5 months
[2017-04-12 00:32:46] ripcord : mark121: how'd that short at 1205 work for you yesterday?
[2017-04-12 00:33:16] ripcord : oh yeah, you use 3m charts so you probably reversed 6 times losing each way
[2017-04-12 00:33:19] mark121 : Just downright lies now?? You are the runt of this A-Team ripcord
[2017-04-12 00:33:41] sleger : "mark121: tetsuo, sleger gave me 2 weeks 5 months ago" <= you have NOT been on the trollbox for 5 months, quit LYING
[2017-04-12 00:34:22] mark121 : i said that alrdy LOL
[2017-04-12 00:34:56] mark121 : I digress
[2017-04-12 00:35:09] mark121 : my point, continued...
[2017-04-12 00:35:28] Tetsuo : you´re just diggin the hole deeper marky
[2017-04-12 00:35:37] mark121 : I have not seen a chart, a call, or anything resembling knowledge beyond that of a rambling idiot
[2017-04-12 00:35:40] mark121 : cutey pie
[2017-04-12 00:35:45] sleger : we'd like him to continue... until we cant see or hear him
[2017-04-12 00:36:31] ripcord : mark121: what's your position?
[2017-04-12 00:36:32] mark121 : the only hole is the gaping on within your ego
[2017-04-12 00:36:34] mark121 : and sense of self
[2017-04-12 00:36:46] mark121 : not to mention even a remote ability to tango with me verbally
[2017-04-12 00:36:51] mark121 : I shit on you and im not even trying
[2017-04-12 00:37:04] KingTuna : sleger: Yeah pretty much only both. Really just a hobby on the side of my regular day job. Milk it here and there for 5-6 BTC profits at a time, but only when there are REAL obvious opportunities. I do look at charts, but not as religiously as others, coz I think it blurs things, especially with cryptos
[2017-04-12 00:37:24] mark121 : It blurs things lol
[2017-04-12 00:37:34] sleger : KingTuna: whats your day job ?
[2017-04-12 00:37:57] KingTuna : sleger: I work for a consulting company in procurement
[2017-04-12 00:38:18] sleger : so nothing related to trading
[2017-04-12 00:38:23] KingTuna : ha ha no
[2017-04-12 00:38:28] sleger : goood for you you've been around for some time
[2017-04-12 00:38:40] mark121 : Oh wow a compliment from "sleger"
[2017-04-12 00:38:40] KingTuna : Well I do buy stuff, and manage risk
[2017-04-12 00:38:50] KingTuna : Only synergies really
[2017-04-12 00:39:03] sleger : why is it you think you make money when most dont ?
[2017-04-12 00:39:31] KingTuna : It's trial and error. Lots of losses int he past, controlling emotions, not jumping at everything
[2017-04-12 00:39:32] mark121 : You know, some would say you are so eager to prove others fake as to divert people's attention away from the glaring inadequacy in your knowledge
[2017-04-12 00:39:35] mark121 : just saying
[2017-04-12 00:39:43] KingTuna : And not listening to trollers
[2017-04-12 00:39:46] mark121 : not to mention, I called you out
[2017-04-12 00:40:05] sleger : i can hear some noise on the line
[2017-04-12 00:40:10] sleger : probably just fish grilling
[2017-04-12 00:40:10] ripcord : mark121: jesus dude, you call every other person insecure....why do you suppose that is?
[2017-04-12 00:40:23] mark121 : Lol did u just use my logic
[2017-04-12 00:40:35] mark121 : Im not the one miserable angry or out to argue, fight, or prove something
[2017-04-12 00:40:40] ripcord : you don't have any logic
[2017-04-12 00:40:44] mark121 : thats what u dont and most dont understand
[2017-04-12 00:40:59] sleger : nobody understands you
[2017-04-12 00:41:03] ripcord : lol
[2017-04-12 00:41:04] alejandromasari : mark121: sleger is the biggest a-hole God ever set on the face of the earth.
[2017-04-12 00:41:05] mark121 : ripcord: logic could sit on your face and face fu_ck you for 3 weeks and ud stil be clueless
[2017-04-12 00:41:12] mark121 : lol!
[2017-04-12 00:41:14] sleger : just try the chinese trollbox now please
[2017-04-12 00:41:26] mark121 : This is so easy
[2017-04-12 00:41:31] KingTuna : 多仓被爆: 卖出
[2017-04-12 00:41:35] ripcord : to be a douche? of course it is
[2017-04-12 00:41:45] Armis : Cmon girls calm down :D
[2017-04-12 00:41:45] sleger : after banning lorestr now is time to ban mark121 please ?
[2017-04-12 00:41:46] mark121 : Damn, harsh!
[2017-04-12 00:41:49] ripcord : it comes naturally to you
[2017-04-12 00:42:36] ripcord : You think you've got it figured out, but you can't seem to pinpoint why your balance keeps going down.
[2017-04-12 00:42:38] mark121 : I think im the only mod in this convo atm
[2017-04-12 00:42:58] mark121 : ripcord: Again, people like you are a dime a dozen, you are the standard nowdays
[2017-04-12 00:43:02] mark121 : u tihnk this si my first rodeo?
[2017-04-12 00:43:17] startChat : yes!?
[2017-04-12 00:43:25] mark121 : lol!
[2017-04-12 00:43:26] mark121 : :)
[2017-04-12 00:43:32] sleger : yes
[2017-04-12 00:43:38] ripcord : I've been trading 20 years...seen it all
[2017-04-12 00:43:45] mark121 : jesus 20 years
[2017-04-12 00:43:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i've realized the less i chat here the more money i make. trollbox eats profits.
[2017-04-12 00:43:50] mark121 : and u cudnt spot a simple breakout
[2017-04-12 00:44:00] ripcord : holy shit you're a moron
[2017-04-12 00:44:01] startChat : need a better banhammer
[2017-04-12 00:44:04] sleger : look at your facebook page https://www.facebook.com/mark.kantardziski
[2017-04-12 00:44:12] startChat : sleger stop feeding
[2017-04-12 00:44:20] KingTuna : lol
[2017-04-12 00:44:23] mark121 : how have u not gotten the hintyet
[2017-04-12 00:44:28] sleger : i was holding since yesterday but he deserves it
[2017-04-12 00:44:31] mark121 : do i need to go out and say it
[2017-04-12 00:44:33] ripcord : nobody gives a shit when you post a breakout that happened 12 hours prior
[2017-04-12 00:44:45] mark121 : sleger: you could have asked for it
[2017-04-12 00:45:01] sleger : yesterday your privacy was of the upmost importance
[2017-04-12 00:45:12] mark121 : LOL
[2017-04-12 00:45:19] mark121 : boy you are truly slow
[2017-04-12 00:45:34] mark121 : PUT 2 and 2 together
[2017-04-12 00:45:42] sleger : 22
[2017-04-12 00:45:49] shillosopher : 2+2=5
[2017-04-12 00:46:09] ripcord : mark121: you should see a phychiatrist man
[2017-04-12 00:46:16] sleger : exorcist ?
[2017-04-12 00:46:17] ripcord : serious issues
[2017-04-12 00:46:33] ripcord : psychiatrist
[2017-04-12 00:46:35] mark121 : ripcord: Are u upset at what I said?
[2017-04-12 00:46:54] mark121 : Guys
[2017-04-12 00:46:54] ripcord : mark121: maybe, if anyone could tell what you said
[2017-04-12 00:47:15] sleger : it seems lorestr and him could understand each other
[2017-04-12 00:47:16] mark121 : i could do this all night but alas I must tend to other things
[2017-04-12 00:47:16] ripcord : I really don't know
[2017-04-12 00:47:28] mark121 : one last little tidbit for yas
[2017-04-12 00:47:38] sleger : zoo just closed, monkey feeding time
[2017-04-12 00:47:39] sleger : ?
[2017-04-12 00:48:12] mark121 : U have the zoo hours memorized ?
[2017-04-12 00:48:32] mark121 : sadly this monkey, making a monkey out of you
[2017-04-12 00:48:37] mark121 : ooo oo aa aa
[2017-04-12 00:48:49] sleger : i see no difference
[2017-04-12 00:49:07] ripcord : was that the last little tidbit?
[2017-04-12 00:49:18] mark121 : its for u ripcord
[2017-04-12 00:49:20] ripcord : psycho
[2017-04-12 00:49:55] ripcord : bipolar perhaps
[2017-04-12 00:50:21] ripcord : please get help
[2017-04-12 00:50:25] sleger : dont make him look like a victim
[2017-04-12 00:50:29] ripcord : lol
[2017-04-12 00:50:29] laisee : dosage is too high, or too low.
[2017-04-12 00:50:45] mark121 : I have a special distaste for your type, the type who could never keep up on his own, but when in a group, and senses weakness, takes that as an opportune time to do or say something -
[2017-04-12 00:50:46] sleger : internet access should be cut though
[2017-04-12 00:51:02] mark121 : You are the bottom of the barrel
[2017-04-12 00:51:09] MikeHunt : sledger is like office paper clip, he corrects mistakes
[2017-04-12 00:51:10] ripcord : good one
[2017-04-12 00:51:14] mark121 : its not a joke
[2017-04-12 00:51:28] startChat : need a voting system for banning, weighted by account balance
[2017-04-12 00:51:36] mark121 : haha
[2017-04-12 00:51:38] mark121 : goodcall
[2017-04-12 00:52:22] sleger : well you'd be out in 1 sec
[2017-04-12 00:52:25] mark121 : funny thing is, in real life
[2017-04-12 00:52:35] ripcord : I thought you were leaving?
[2017-04-12 00:53:00] sleger : his mom needs another minute to finish cooking
[2017-04-12 00:53:07] ripcord : lol
[2017-04-12 00:53:29] mark121 : like this is sad, but boy, what a sight that would be
[2017-04-12 00:53:38] ripcord : oh snap!
[2017-04-12 00:53:50] sleger : startChat: but yes you're right in a decentralized exchange that would happen
[2017-04-12 00:54:31] MikeHunt : i think after a while u need a chat room for the plebs
[2017-04-12 00:54:33] mark121 : U asked for tidbit, i had one more
[2017-04-12 00:55:03] startChat : Can't ever have a decentralized exchange. The order book is always centralized.
[2017-04-12 00:55:14] mark121 : u guys are so rdy to cry and bitch and moan, but i hear nothing trading related, no knowledge, nothing out of any of you
[2017-04-12 00:55:15] startChat : matching engine rather
[2017-04-12 00:55:34] startChat : mark121: got some TA?
[2017-04-12 00:55:38] mark121 : Tuna has but tuna was ok until 24hrs ago
[2017-04-12 00:56:23] sleger : startChat: you can
[2017-04-12 00:56:24] mark121 : Crypto traders are so insanely defensive, so over-confident and under-informed /under-studied -- a true wonderland for a psych major
[2017-04-12 00:57:29] mark121 : startChat: Aye but what would be the purpose to share now? or anymore lol
[2017-04-12 00:57:30] startChat : sleger: crypto to crypto you can do it (atomic swap) but it is not fast, and no way to do leverage
[2017-04-12 00:57:33] mark121 : Not all of course
[2017-04-12 00:57:58] mark121 : but ones who started in it - its weid
[2017-04-12 00:58:01] mark121 : weird*
[2017-04-12 00:58:07] sleger : startChat: its not fast yet but it could be (ethereum) and you could have leverage
[2017-04-12 00:58:09] mark121 : Something to think about
[2017-04-12 00:58:11] mark121 : :)
[2017-04-12 00:58:25] startChat : sleger: how would you do liquidations?
[2017-04-12 00:58:42] sleger : startChat: just like any other order
[2017-04-12 00:58:56] startChat : maintaince margin/
[2017-04-12 00:58:57] startChat : ?
[2017-04-12 00:59:01] sleger : bitmex is just code, there is no need for centralization
[2017-04-12 00:59:04] sleger : yes
[2017-04-12 00:59:20] sleger : the only problem currently is # of operations per second and cost
[2017-04-12 00:59:21] startChat : if you think Ethereum can do bitmex....
[2017-04-12 00:59:26] sleger : yes
[2017-04-12 00:59:28] sleger : 100%
[2017-04-12 00:59:29] startChat : oh man...
[2017-04-12 00:59:33] startChat : who else here thinks that?
[2017-04-12 00:59:36] sleger : not in its current state
[2017-04-12 00:59:39] sleger : but yes
[2017-04-12 01:00:00] startChat : on the public ethereum blockchain?
[2017-04-12 01:01:10] sleger : eventually yes
[2017-04-12 01:01:11] sleger : why not
[2017-04-12 01:01:13] sleger : its just code
[2017-04-12 01:01:23] startChat : Do you write code?
[2017-04-12 01:01:30] sleger : yes
[2017-04-12 01:01:35] startChat : hmm.
[2017-04-12 01:01:47] sleger : c++ python, used to do c# java also
[2017-04-12 01:01:59] sleger : i do hft for a living
[2017-04-12 01:02:51] mark121 : heavy fat tranies
[2017-04-12 01:03:01] mark121 : booom!
[2017-04-12 01:03:19] mark121 : interesting profession!
[2017-04-12 01:03:25] mark121 : Ciao fellas goodluck4now
[2017-04-12 01:03:57] startChat : How do you imagine HFT working on ethereum
[2017-04-12 01:04:09] sleger : smart contract
[2017-04-12 01:04:17] startChat : where are the coin stored while you have an order out
[2017-04-12 01:04:18] sleger : youre the one who said it wasnt possible, why ?
[2017-04-12 01:04:56] startChat : how does that order get matched when my client is slow
[2017-04-12 01:05:06] sleger : answer the question
[2017-04-12 01:05:13] startChat : you can't do it
[2017-04-12 01:05:14] startChat : bottom line
[2017-04-12 01:05:28] startChat : matching engine needs to have custody of the funds
[2017-04-12 01:05:33] sleger : oh ok im gonna take your word then thanks
[2017-04-12 01:06:09] sleger : did you know that such exchanges already exist, albeit slow ? You just said it was not possible
[2017-04-12 01:06:13] aethlios : https://twitter.com/T3naciousC/status/851922031964827648
[2017-04-12 01:06:23] startChat : sleger: not for HFT
[2017-04-12 01:06:42] startChat : link?
[2017-04-12 01:06:48] sleger : we were NOT disccusing any hft
[2017-04-12 01:07:23] startChat : so then why do you need ethereum "computer"
[2017-04-12 01:07:39] sleger : who said that ?
[2017-04-12 01:07:46] sleger : i just said decentralized exchange
[2017-04-12 01:07:51] startChat : what does that mean
[2017-04-12 01:08:02] startChat : [01:59] startChat: if you think Ethereum can do bitmex.... [01:59] sleger: yes 100%
[2017-04-12 01:08:04] sleger : did you take over when mark121 left ?
[2017-04-12 01:08:16] startChat : sleger: i guess so\
[2017-04-12 01:08:33] startChat : we were talking about bitmex, on ethereum.
[2017-04-12 01:08:40] sleger : yes ethereum can and does do an exchange
[2017-04-12 01:08:42] startChat : which is apparently 100%
[2017-04-12 01:09:12] sleger : there are today decentralized exchanges running on ethereum
[2017-04-12 01:09:29] startChat : trading what
[2017-04-12 01:09:32] startChat : fiat?
[2017-04-12 01:09:37] sleger : they cant today do 100% of what bitmex is doing if that's what you're trying to modify my words into
[2017-04-12 01:09:47] sleger : bitmex doesnt trade fiat
[2017-04-12 01:09:52] startChat : true
[2017-04-12 01:10:43] sleger : the only difference currently is functionality and speed
[2017-04-12 01:11:03] sleger : speed can be achieved close to any current exchange, at least enough for whats needed
[2017-04-12 01:11:19] sleger : leverage / margin can be replicated just as it is today
[2017-04-12 01:11:54] sleger : but you were the one saying it is not possible so im waiting to see why ? (hint: you're wrong)
[2017-04-12 01:21:39] sleger : looks like startChat endedChat
[2017-04-12 01:31:02] j8 : i always heard front-running was a problem for decentralized exchanges
[2017-04-12 01:32:24] j8 : it's not so easy to assign time priority in a decentralized way
[2017-04-12 01:36:43] puppet : lol you guys
[2017-04-12 01:36:51] puppet : is it lonely at the top or what?
[2017-04-12 01:40:19] Average : does entry price take into account fee's
[2017-04-12 01:40:28] mark121 : no
[2017-04-12 01:40:45] Average : okay, just doing some accounting
[2017-04-12 01:41:39] mark121 : To save on fees use limit buys/sells
[2017-04-12 01:41:53] sleger : j8: time priority is not important, even here as long as there were 2 decimals, time priority was worth zero
[2017-04-12 01:41:57] mark121 : incase of hidden orders, use post-only
[2017-04-12 01:42:02] sleger : want to join our slack group ? @j8
[2017-04-12 01:42:13] j8 : yeah sure
[2017-04-12 01:42:22] sleger : j8: email ?
[2017-04-12 01:43:03] endChat : sleger: What does the price feed "program" look like?
[2017-04-12 01:43:31] sleger : wow you must be bored
[2017-04-12 01:43:51] sleger : you know you could have used irc link to save time on creating an alt account
[2017-04-12 01:44:13] startChat : i had a fresh account to try and test liquidation catching bot :)
[2017-04-12 01:45:04] MikeHunt : startChat: called AmbulancerChaser?
[2017-04-12 01:45:19] startChat : buythebloodofyourbrothers
[2017-04-12 01:45:23] startChat : i clal it
[2017-04-12 01:48:35] startChat : sleger: any word on that price feed.
[2017-04-12 01:48:49] startChat : i might need to invest in ETH
[2017-04-12 01:48:56] mark121 : I have over 20 pairs of slacks, mostly tailor-fit, I am interested in joining but I'd like to ensure this isn't the typical "my slacks are soo good, me me me, mine are tops" type of discussion. It's amazing how many groups have like 1 or 2 pros and like 20 wannabie, faker, slack noobs. I like to ensure validity by requesting a notarized short biography/resume of the tailor, you can never go wrong with references...
[2017-04-12 01:50:16] mark121 : Let me know, slacksman@justthebottoms.com...
[2017-04-12 01:50:17] startChat : more than the 20 locked in my presale wallet
[2017-04-12 01:51:34] MikeHunt : startChat: dont take too much mEth thou or u become an addict...
[2017-04-12 01:51:35] MikeHunt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXasCjUTNpE&t=45s
[2017-04-12 01:54:04] j8 : sleger: jayeight@protonmail.com
[2017-04-12 01:54:23] sleger : j8: done
[2017-04-12 02:01:54] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-12 02:01:57] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 39.08 / 60.92 Daily : 41.73 / 58.27 Weekly : 43.62 / 56.38 Monthly : 50.64 / 49.36```
[2017-04-12 02:02:40] Armis : /price
[2017-04-12 02:02:42] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1219.23 (-0.06%) Bitfinex : 1234.00 (-0.13%) The Woodchipper : 1220.24 (-0.23%) itBit : 1224.12 (-0.06%) Kraken : 1226.88 (0.44%) GDAX : 1224.89 (0.03%) SLQ : 2 hours, 1 min, ```
[2017-04-12 02:14:12] micmix : negative funding again? where are all the punters?
[2017-04-12 02:18:00] ronensinger : micmix: MIcmix!
[2017-04-12 02:18:13] ronensinger : How do you like the new $0.10 increments?
[2017-04-12 02:20:14] micmix : it was a good call, makes time priority more important and saves API calls
[2017-04-12 02:23:22] Apocalyptic : "and saves API calls" this is certainly true
[2017-04-12 02:24:41] j8 : i think it's great. the bots are way less annoying
[2017-04-12 02:25:07] Apocalyptic : but you lose the granularity to position in front of big orders, so it may decrease your hit rate
[2017-04-12 02:30:10] startChat : Should have gone to a dollar
[2017-04-12 02:33:20] mark121 : if u are the MM maybe
[2017-04-12 02:33:56] mark121 : Pro-Spread sentiment
[2017-04-12 02:36:00] micmix : Apocalyptic: yes, depends on your algo. if you are running algo with large quotes and small limits most likely you'll get a hit in profitability bc it's harder to get in front now
[2017-04-12 02:36:26] Apocalyptic : micmix: of course this matters to those quoting low-sized quotes
[2017-04-12 02:36:40] Apocalyptic : it you're quoting 25k blocks you don't really give a damn
[2017-04-12 02:36:49] micmix : no, not really lol
[2017-04-12 02:37:25] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Of course you give a daamn
[2017-04-12 02:37:39] ronensinger : 0.01% on 25k is $2.50
[2017-04-12 02:37:51] ronensinger : Hunredsof times a day, this will add up
[2017-04-12 02:38:21] rapidtrades : i don't like it
[2017-04-12 02:38:46] rapidtrades : spread is tighter but volimes on each side are small
[2017-04-12 02:38:47] micmix : 25k MM will get hit more bc it's harder for small guys to get in front, so I suspect he'll be better off
[2017-04-12 02:39:26] rapidtrades : deceptively small cos bots have to fight for that 0.1 when in reality its as large as before
[2017-04-12 02:39:27] Apocalyptic : I meant if you're quoting big sizes, you don't care if someone with 1k front-runs your fill or not
[2017-04-12 02:39:55] Apocalyptic : micmix: I see
[2017-04-12 02:39:59] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Are you mming now?
[2017-04-12 02:40:13] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: yes, you ?
[2017-04-12 02:40:20] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Yep
[2017-04-12 02:40:23] ronensinger : Are you profitable?
[2017-04-12 02:40:35] micmix : Apocalyptic: it matters in current low-volatility environment bc small guys take higher % of volume
[2017-04-12 02:40:50] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: would I be doing it if not ?
[2017-04-12 02:41:05] ronensinger : Too much competition here...
[2017-04-12 02:41:15] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-12 02:41:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1221.47 (0.18%) Bitfinex : 1235.70 (0.14%) The Woodchipper : 1223.47 (0.26%) itBit : 1224.47 (0.03%) Kraken : 1229.00 (0.17%) GDAX : 1225.55 (0.05%) SLQ : 38 mins```
[2017-04-12 02:41:23] micmix : lol, there is no real competition here
[2017-04-12 02:41:42] ronensinger : I dont think so... micmix
[2017-04-12 02:41:49] micmix : if you think this is competition you don't know what it means to have competition
[2017-04-12 02:41:52] Apocalyptic : but I have to say I prefered the 0.01 tick size, it somehow affected my profits
[2017-04-12 02:41:54] ronensinger : For staters, there's you
[2017-04-12 02:42:05] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: we're no competition for the likes of micmix :)
[2017-04-12 02:42:18] micmix : nah, I'm a small fish
[2017-04-12 02:42:21] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Whats your roi % per day?
[2017-04-12 02:42:41] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: I don't disclose this kind of stuff
[2017-04-12 02:43:09] ronensinger : I woner who uses hide-not-slide here...
[2017-04-12 02:43:11] ronensinger : It exists
[2017-04-12 02:44:13] ronensinger : Adios
[2017-04-12 02:46:10] micmix : Apocalyptic: as I said, if your limit is only couple times quote size you'll get a hit from larger tick size
[2017-04-12 02:46:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 8 @ 0.00809
[2017-04-12 02:50:12] Apocalyptic : micmix: yeah indeed
[2017-04-12 02:51:57] Apocalyptic : "it matters in current low-volatility environment bc small guys take higher % of volume" haven't thought about it this way
[2017-04-12 02:56:04] Yogization : Thoughts on Russia legalising BTC? http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/04/11/russia-bitcoin-legal-currency/
[2017-04-12 03:29:27] aethlios : ltc looks bottomish.