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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2015-11-26 23:18:43] JACOBcze : if this moves till i come back its rigged [2015-11-26 23:19:32] wurstgelee : huobi new high [2015-11-26 23:19:33] wurstgelee : :p [2015-11-26 23:19:47] wurstgelee : 0k too [2015-11-26 23:19:52] wurstgelee : rigged, qed [2015-11-26 23:20:38] JACOBcze : what the fuck [2015-11-26 23:20:40] JACOBcze : did just happen [2015-11-26 23:20:57] habibi : JACOBcze: ? [2015-11-26 23:20:58] wurstgelee : JACOBcze: go away, get more cookies [2015-11-26 23:20:59] habibi : why? [2015-11-26 23:21:01] JACOBcze : that cookie was not worth [2015-11-26 23:21:44] JACOBcze : nevermind lets just dump [2015-11-26 23:21:47] JACOBcze : to make myself feel better [2015-11-26 23:23:25] wurstgelee : wow [2015-11-26 23:23:40] JACOBcze : i dont want to talk about it [2015-11-26 23:23:48] JACOBcze : am i the new rapidtrades [2015-11-26 23:23:50] JACOBcze : oh god [2015-11-26 23:24:12] wurstgelee : JACOBcze: only if you call top and short now [2015-11-26 23:24:17] wurstgelee : or did u short? oO [2015-11-26 23:24:27] JACOBcze : i didnt short im not mental [2015-11-26 23:24:28] JACOBcze : kinda [2015-11-26 23:24:32] wurstgelee : hehe [2015-11-26 23:24:35] JACOBcze : i just closed [2015-11-26 23:24:40] JACOBcze : and reopening here seems insane [2015-11-26 23:24:56] wurstgelee : maybe, maybe not [2015-11-26 23:25:00] wurstgelee : dunno [2015-11-26 23:25:03] jung1 : crazy chinese [2015-11-26 23:25:26] JACOBcze : btce is provoking with 500 btc sell wall [2015-11-26 23:25:32] JACOBcze : (thats like a lot there) [2015-11-26 23:25:50] jung1 : ok an hu do give a f about btce [2015-11-26 23:26:04] JACOBcze : i watch it only for entertainment purposes [2015-11-26 23:26:07] JACOBcze : its a different world [2015-11-26 23:28:12] Swedishnut : yeah that btce wall is still standing yet [2015-11-26 23:29:04] jung1 : drop it like its hot [2015-11-26 23:29:09] jung1 : cmon [2015-11-26 23:29:31] wurstgelee : yep, dip now please. i would aprreciate [2015-11-26 23:31:05] jung1 : https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort finex going short [2015-11-26 23:31:07] wurstgelee : JACOBcze: theres your dojo again ;) [2015-11-26 23:31:37] messiaen8844 : where is rapid? I'm short, hope he's not now [2015-11-26 23:31:44] wurstgelee : *i [2015-11-26 23:31:54] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: he is. from 349 [2015-11-26 23:31:55] j8 : btc-e had a big wall holding it at 339 earlier. russian bearwhale [2015-11-26 23:32:37] Swedishnut : it got harpooned and retreated to 350 then? [2015-11-26 23:32:47] Swedishnut : errr 345 [2015-11-26 23:33:06] JACOBcze : oh god [2015-11-26 23:33:08] JACOBcze : not another 1 minute dojo [2015-11-26 23:33:10] j8 : yeah it had a hundred or two taken [2015-11-26 23:33:24] j8 : couple hundred left. you can see the flatline on the chart [2015-11-26 23:33:49] JACOBcze : why are all u guys obsessed with shorting [2015-11-26 23:34:21] Swedishnut : all depressed :) [2015-11-26 23:34:21] jung1 : I got used to it in past 2 years [2015-11-26 23:34:28] JACOBcze : but i love what bitcoin market did to people [2015-11-26 23:34:34] JACOBcze : remember the road to under 200$ [2015-11-26 23:34:40] JACOBcze : until that happened literally everyone was longing [2015-11-26 23:34:43] JACOBcze : and since then everyone is shorting [2015-11-26 23:34:43] miramm1115 : IDK, I told rapidtrades yesterday, shorting the rally is dangerous for your wallet [2015-11-26 23:34:45] JACOBcze : its adorable [2015-11-26 23:35:04] jung1 : trend is your friend [2015-11-26 23:35:05] miramm1115 : oops, wrong account :-) [2015-11-26 23:35:18] JACOBcze : fake account D: [2015-11-26 23:35:45] wurstgelee : JACOBcze: k, now i regret closing early too :/ [2015-11-26 23:36:00] JACOBcze : wurstgeleee the funny thing is [2015-11-26 23:36:04] JACOBcze : i actually managed to relong somehow [2015-11-26 23:36:07] JACOBcze : i dont even know why or how [2015-11-26 23:36:10] wurstgelee : :D [2015-11-26 23:36:34] jung1 : JACOBcze: maybe that cookie was brownie [2015-11-26 23:36:42] JACOBcze : but im like [2015-11-26 23:36:44] JACOBcze : shitting my pants holding it [2015-11-26 23:36:53] wurstgelee : dont need that tbh [2015-11-26 23:36:54] JACOBcze : its a good feeling [2015-11-26 23:37:09] wurstgelee : warm and soft? [2015-11-26 23:37:18] JACOBcze : that btce wall though [2015-11-26 23:37:22] JACOBcze : exactly lee [2015-11-26 23:37:42] jung1 : there should be dynamic stop losses [2015-11-26 23:38:25] JACOBcze : agreed [2015-11-26 23:38:40] laisee : trrailing? [2015-11-26 23:38:52] jung1 : ? [2015-11-26 23:39:10] JACOBcze : like srsly [2015-11-26 23:39:15] JACOBcze : watching that btce wall [2015-11-26 23:39:17] JACOBcze : is making me smile [2015-11-26 23:39:25] JACOBcze : i just love that market [2015-11-26 23:39:29] JACOBcze : whenever im down [2015-11-26 23:39:30] JACOBcze : i just watch it [2015-11-26 23:39:32] JACOBcze : do its own shit [2015-11-26 23:40:29] wurstgelee : this is the top. i shorted! [2015-11-26 23:40:34] wurstgelee : *trying to trick buttcoin [2015-11-26 23:40:47] wurstgelee : maybe it thinks im rapidtrades and goes down so i can rebuy [2015-11-26 23:40:57] JACOBcze : make "rapldtrades" account [2015-11-26 23:41:00] wurstgelee : haha [2015-11-26 23:41:01] messiaen8844 : well, let's do it to see how it feels to be rapid [2015-11-26 23:41:27] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: i just shorted 1 contract [2015-11-26 23:41:28] JACOBcze : ok [2015-11-26 23:41:30] JACOBcze : calling the top boys [2015-11-26 23:41:35] wurstgelee : to get a bit of that rapidtrades feeling [2015-11-26 23:41:36] JACOBcze : shorting all in [2015-11-26 23:41:37] miratrader : I miss flip-floppy guy, haven't seen him for a while [2015-11-26 23:41:41] JACOBcze : deposit on my way to back it up [2015-11-26 23:42:00] wurstgelee : haha [2015-11-26 23:42:12] jung1 : now $10 drop [2015-11-26 23:42:37] messiaen8844 : or not, or shorters will rocket fuel another dollars up [2015-11-26 23:42:49] jung1 : yep [2015-11-26 23:43:14] messiaen8844 : anyway, worth do risk a few contracts here I think, wost scenario I lose a very small ammount of my winnings today [2015-11-26 23:43:31] wurstgelee : short 1(!) contract [2015-11-26 23:43:43] wurstgelee : small-time-rapidtrader [2015-11-26 23:43:55] JACOBcze : i think we cant just replicate him [2015-11-26 23:43:57] messiaen8844 : short isolated margin 50x [2015-11-26 23:44:06] JACOBcze : he's one of his kind [2015-11-26 23:44:15] wurstgelee : JACOBcze: doesnt work. im up with my short. thats not like him :/ [2015-11-26 23:44:26] wurstgelee : 30% lol [2015-11-26 23:44:28] JACOBcze : also [2015-11-26 23:44:30] JACOBcze : meanwhile [2015-11-26 23:44:33] JACOBcze : btce wall is getting eaten [2015-11-26 23:44:34] JACOBcze : xD [2015-11-26 23:44:37] JACOBcze : for the last hour xD [2015-11-26 23:45:18] JACOBcze : oh god [2015-11-26 23:45:21] JACOBcze : is it 1 minute dojo time? [2015-11-26 23:45:35] wurstgelee : maybe [2015-11-26 23:46:00] Swedishnut : love the doji stroke the doji [2015-11-26 23:46:02] messiaen8844 : I sense disturbance in the bull force [2015-11-26 23:46:12] wurstgelee : JACOBcze: almost @ hu0bi [2015-11-26 23:46:46] Swedishnut : if the bull is being driven by Oscar Meyer we may be in a bit of a pickle. [2015-11-26 23:46:53] JACOBcze : liek srsly [2015-11-26 23:47:01] JACOBcze : im gonna pattent 1 minute dojo strategy [2015-11-26 23:47:09] JACOBcze : look at that shit [2015-11-26 23:47:26] messiaen8844 : 1 min can be useful sometimes [2015-11-26 23:47:35] JACOBcze : ive never really read candles [2015-11-26 23:47:41] JACOBcze : but i always like watching something new [2015-11-26 23:48:06] JACOBcze : its just support resistance breakout psychology for me [2015-11-26 23:48:16] messiaen8844 : I read candles to time to exist and entries [2015-11-26 23:48:36] messiaen8844 : *time my exist [2015-11-26 23:48:41] jung1 : 20% on short [2015-11-26 23:48:43] jung1 : not bad [2015-11-26 23:48:51] jung1 : I always looking 1min [2015-11-26 23:48:54] JACOBcze : meanwhile russians making millions [2015-11-26 23:49:03] JACOBcze : in their 0.25$ channel [2015-11-26 23:49:12] messiaen8844 : in those bull markets you just mark the bottoms and ONLY exit when two previous bottoms have been lost, that's one of my strategies [2015-11-26 23:49:39] messiaen8844 : BTC is highly directional, easy to trade sometimes [2015-11-26 23:49:43] jung1 : https://old.whaleclub.co/charts/3/okcoin,huobi,bitfinex,btce btce looks hilarious [2015-11-26 23:49:46] JACOBcze : sounds good [2015-11-26 23:49:53] JACOBcze : yeah its a young market [2015-11-26 23:49:56] jung1 : messiaen8844: on 3 min? [2015-11-26 23:50:06] messiaen8844 : no, usually 5 min for daytrading [2015-11-26 23:50:25] JACOBcze : are u trying to hack us jung [2015-11-26 23:50:26] JACOBcze : pls [2015-11-26 23:50:49] messiaen8844 : so I always have alerts on nearby candles, bottoms and tops [2015-11-26 23:51:56] jung1 : JACOBcze: already did [2015-11-26 23:52:52] jung1 : whar other strategies you have? lets make ultimate trollbox strategy [2015-11-26 23:53:07] JACOBcze : i vote for 1 minute dojo [2015-11-26 23:53:25] micmix : I always use flip a coin strategy [2015-11-26 23:53:30] jung1 : I usually play 1/3 of my deposit with isolate margin [2015-11-26 23:53:41] jung1 : and close around 75% profit [2015-11-26 23:54:19] jung1 : + https://old.whaleclub.co/charts/3/okcoin,huobi,bitfinex,btce and volume on huobi/ok [2015-11-26 23:54:25] micmix : flip a coin, all in cross margin, no stop loss [2015-11-26 23:54:30] jung1 : + chocolate milk [2015-11-26 23:54:58] JACOBcze : well that just happened [2015-11-26 23:55:01] micmix : 8x profit since I started trading here :-) but you need my lucky coin :-) [2015-11-26 23:55:26] JACOBcze : rapidtrades would be proud of bitcoin [2015-11-26 23:55:31] JACOBcze : if he wasnt liquidated for the 10th time [2015-11-26 23:56:40] messiaen8844 : now I only exit my short @ 358 when candles are closed after previous tops, I won't get the bottom but I will ride more than most who take profits early [2015-11-26 23:59:05] jung1 : you not likely share your trading ideas [2015-11-26 23:59:48] JACOBcze : ye i just say where the price is going [2015-11-26 23:59:52] JACOBcze : since like only 1 guy is gonna listen to me anyway [2015-11-26 23:59:55] JACOBcze : so it doesnt really matter [2015-11-27 00:00:28] jung1 : quality, not amount [2015-11-27 00:00:56] jung1 : btw my name is also jakub [2015-11-27 00:01:12] Swedishnut : I called the jump the other day :) I should get a badge j/k [2015-11-27 00:01:24] jung1 : [internet high five] [2015-11-27 00:01:51] jung1 : down we go [2015-11-27 00:01:55] Swedishnut : [received and now Processing the Love] [2015-11-27 00:02:47] messiaen8844 : hope so jung... following by the 1 min [2015-11-27 00:04:14] JACOBcze : jung pls [2015-11-27 00:04:31] Swedishnut : it will be such a new world once we use the fiat for its true purpose. a Collectible Historical Value Token. [2015-11-27 00:04:48] SnackyCoins : Meanwhile, on the daily: https://www.tradingview.com/x/HwbAJqtB/ [2015-11-27 00:05:30] jung1 : some guys already made bitcoin bigmac price index [2015-11-27 00:05:45] jung1 : and you can check bitcoin price in bigmacs [2015-11-27 00:06:23] Swedishnut : where is the bigmac index? That would be a funny one [2015-11-27 00:07:11] jung1 : http://bitcoinppi.com/ [2015-11-27 00:09:54] Swedishnut : ty Jakub made my day [2015-11-27 00:11:48] jung1 : de nada [2015-11-27 00:13:09] messiaen8844 : cool, portuguese lol [2015-11-27 00:23:46] Swedishnut : looks like the sappers are eyeing up the BTCE wall again [2015-11-27 00:25:27] Swedishnut : its gross that the "Black Friday" deals start at 6pm on Thanksgiving... Americans... [2015-11-27 00:28:39] micmix : Swedishnut: deals in US start on Friday morning China time :-) [2015-11-27 00:29:54] messiaen8844 : now please lets go to 370 [2015-11-27 00:33:45] Swedishnut : 375 would be a super sexy spot price [2015-11-27 00:36:37] jung1 : 275 would be better [2015-11-27 00:43:55] wurstgelee : now thats some fine sideways in the last 20 mins ;) [2015-11-27 00:44:45] wurstgelee : ok, jinxed it, were going down. [2015-11-27 00:44:46] wurstgelee : :p [2015-11-27 00:45:27] messiaen8844 : OR beartrap ;) [2015-11-27 00:45:51] wurstgelee : maybe, dont care tbh. time for a few hours of sleep ;) [2015-11-27 00:45:54] wurstgelee : gnight [2015-11-27 01:07:59] Swedishnut : night good sir [2015-11-27 01:19:39] Swedishnut : Thoughts Concerns Questions? [2015-11-27 01:21:31] messiaen8844 : thoughts? up up up [2015-11-27 01:22:09] Swedishnut : That would be nice indeed. [2015-11-27 02:29:21] Swedishnut : favorite sports? [2015-11-27 02:29:45] messiaen8844 : chair-warming [2015-11-27 02:31:59] Swedishnut : hmm anyone a soccer/REAL Football fan? [2015-11-27 02:42:22] zanza : go netherlands [2015-11-27 02:46:14] Swedishnut : btce wall appears to have been slain or removed [2015-11-27 02:46:40] Swedishnut : btce 345.54 atm [2015-11-27 02:50:22] Swedishnut : so is everyone asleep ? [2015-11-27 02:59:19] j8 : i closed 90% of my position. done for the week i think. [2015-11-27 03:14:18] podizzle3k : i see a btc e wall at 345 [2015-11-27 03:15:35] Swedishnut : ahh then it had took a breather [2015-11-27 03:15:57] Swedishnut : i speak sooo good... slaps own face [2015-11-27 03:16:16] podizzle3k : i think it moved up a couple bucks [2015-11-27 03:28:23] podizzle3k : wow buying up to $470 and $391 wtf [2015-11-27 03:28:30] podizzle3k : bitmex ballers [2015-11-27 03:35:54] lvr : lol [2015-11-27 03:54:03] Swedishnut : volume is picking up [2015-11-27 04:09:37] j8 : gotta screw with people before settlement [2015-11-27 04:09:55] j8 : okc settlement that is [2015-11-27 04:10:48] Swedishnut : ahh when does that settle? [2015-11-27 04:11:25] chrisxbt : 3 hours? [2015-11-27 04:11:44] j8 : just under 4 hours [2015-11-27 04:12:00] Swedishnut : ahh so before Mex [2015-11-27 04:12:02] chrisxbt : so I haven't been on here in awhile. what does users mean? [2015-11-27 04:12:19] j8 : yeah it's 4 hours before mex [2015-11-27 04:12:32] Swedishnut : cool good to know ty [2015-11-27 04:12:45] j8 : which is a crazy time to settle, most unpredictable time of week in my opinion [2015-11-27 04:13:09] j8 : here i mean. [2015-11-27 04:13:50] chrisxbt : you mean price wise or in the real world? [2015-11-27 04:14:02] j8 : price wise [2015-11-27 04:14:18] chrisxbt : Since Bitcoin behaves that way due to okc settlement [2015-11-27 04:14:22] j8 : just that okc settlement is such an event, then we settle 4 hours later. [2015-11-27 04:16:26] Swedishnut : can you watch this "event" somewhere? [2015-11-27 04:16:46] SnackyCoins : bitfx.info has timers if thats what you mean [2015-11-27 04:16:46] chrisxbt : bitcoinwisdom [2015-11-27 04:17:03] j8 : in the price action over the next 3 hours 45 minutes, especially on okc futures [2015-11-27 04:17:13] chrisxbt : the event is price action [2015-11-27 04:17:23] Swedishnut : ahh gotcha ty [2015-11-27 04:17:49] j8 : watching the premium on next week's contract is interesting too. [2015-11-27 04:19:04] j8 : sometimes it indicates the direction for the near future, but it also gets faked out hard [2015-11-27 04:20:36] chrisxbt : well biweeklies gets a lot less volume before settlement [2015-11-27 04:20:41] chrisxbt : big spreads [2015-11-27 04:20:58] chrisxbt : so premium changing doesn't mean a ton [2015-11-27 04:22:42] j8 : it's been around plus $4, which is big compared to the spread [2015-11-27 04:23:36] chrisxbt : spread can get to +$2 [2015-11-27 04:23:38] j8 : which would be perceived as bullish, but can easily flip at settlement [2015-11-27 04:23:56] chrisxbt : you know, $4 premo seems really normal [2015-11-27 04:24:13] j8 : 1000 contract ask on next week right now [2015-11-27 04:24:35] j8 : it's only normal in a bull trend, often it's negative or no premium [2015-11-27 04:26:06] chrisxbt : I think there's always naturally a premium because of interest differential [2015-11-27 04:26:45] j8 : yes, that usd swap rate was way low for a while though. lemme check [2015-11-27 04:32:24] j8 : basically 0.02% usd vs 0.01% btc [2015-11-27 04:35:08] Swedishnut : any spiffy black friday deals? [2015-11-27 04:42:06] j8 : trezors are on sale. other than that i'm not sure, will probably do some impulse buys [2015-11-27 04:44:15] Swedishnut : got the duo already on their way :) [2015-11-27 04:45:14] j8 : pretty handy. [2015-11-27 04:48:46] Swedishnut : yeah they are for my Father and Brother [2015-11-27 04:49:07] Swedishnut : they have coins on exchanges that should be placed into safety [2015-11-27 04:49:30] j8 : yeah good plan. my parents aren't ready for bitcoin [2015-11-27 04:49:47] j8 : or bitcoin's not ready for them i guess [2015-11-27 04:55:01] Swedishnut : yeah my mother is completely horrid around tech. Dad can manage. Brother is savvy. Its a generational thing [2015-11-27 05:16:55] Swedishnut : appears okcoin wants 360 as settle but likely 350~ish? [2015-11-27 05:19:33] j8 : they'll fit in another couple fakeouts one way or another [2015-11-27 05:19:56] j8 : it's the worst time for getting chopped up [2015-11-27 05:22:08] Swedishnut : yeah I noticed typing in the exchange name it changed it to woodchipper so it has a rep :P [2015-11-27 05:22:46] j8 : for sure [2015-11-27 05:23:48] j8 : yesterday on the 24H here there was a big margin call 12 minutes before settlement. would hate to be that guy [2015-11-27 05:27:59] Swedishnut : yeah I try an stay safe and learn with a handful of contracts myself. Only been in hot water due to woops fat finger one to many zero's buys [2015-11-27 05:29:00] j8 : man, with 100x leverage sometimes i'm scared of the size of order i could accidentally put it [2015-11-27 05:29:19] Swedishnut : yeah that is where I've screwed myself before [2015-11-27 05:29:38] Swedishnut : 10000 is just one 0 away... [2015-11-27 05:30:35] Swedishnut : but to those with the coconuts and make the right call its pretty much pay dirt land [2015-11-27 05:30:43] j8 : 100,000 only takes ~4 btc of margin [2015-11-27 05:31:03] Swedishnut : yeah exactly it gets hairy quick [2015-11-27 05:32:34] j8 : i'm just loving the fomo and big premiums that come with it, definitely don't partake in the full 100x myself [2015-11-27 05:33:43] Swedishnut : when I feel real lucky and see a trend I hop in the 100x but it becomes pretty consuming to watch. [2015-11-27 05:36:40] Swedishnut : why aren't more HAM radio folks into Bitcoin they already run a ton of crazy equipment [2015-11-27 05:37:22] rapidtrades : u guys stil bullish? [2015-11-27 05:38:19] j8 : bullish until proven otherwise, sitting it out until tomorrow though. [2015-11-27 05:38:39] rapidtrades : j8: well if ur sitting it out ur not bullish [2015-11-27 05:38:51] Swedishnut : he is sitting bull no bother him [2015-11-27 05:39:11] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: @j8 are u stiing bullsih? [2015-11-27 05:39:18] j8 : i have a neutral position because i'm waiting for settlement and next week's contract [2015-11-27 05:40:03] rapidtrades : k, coward [2015-11-27 05:40:15] j8 : ha [2015-11-27 05:40:41] j8 : this is two hours before okc settlement, it's fakeout central [2015-11-27 05:40:54] rapidtrades : j8: please [2015-11-27 05:41:00] rapidtrades : stop ur whining [2015-11-27 05:41:29] j8 : not whining, just plain reason [2015-11-27 05:41:33] Swedishnut : its a finance sword dance [2015-11-27 05:42:36] j8 : and, i'm about to go to bed. that's the main reason [2015-11-27 05:42:49] rapidtrades : j8: sleep is for the weak [2015-11-27 05:43:19] Swedishnut : No sleep for you but you may have some soup [2015-11-27 05:44:43] rapidtrades : i hate soup [2015-11-27 05:45:37] Swedishnut : fine you can be the third in the human centipede then all the soup won't be soup once it gets to you feel any better? [2015-11-27 05:46:38] rapidtrades : NO [2015-11-27 05:47:29] HotDogs : Swedishnut: ROFL [2015-11-27 05:47:39] HotDogs : That comment made my day [2015-11-27 05:48:30] Swedishnut : I do what I can to add a bit of spice to the box :P [2015-11-27 05:49:57] BitMEX_Wally : Not for myself [2015-11-27 05:50:20] HotDogs : SO GOOD [2015-11-27 05:50:22] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: well aren't u a little Hitler in the making [2015-11-27 05:52:57] rapidtrades : well premium's gone...but we're now $4 above my BE point lol [2015-11-27 05:53:31] ethexio : Whoa [2015-11-27 05:54:30] ethexio : Are they gently caressing? [2015-11-27 05:57:52] rapidtrades : volume is 1/3 of the volume we had during the previous rally [2015-11-27 06:03:47] zanza : so if 24 H volume is 11000 XBT, we can calculate BitMEX commission is .001 = 11 BTC profit! [2015-11-27 06:03:57] zanza : congrats guys [2015-11-27 06:04:44] j8 : half that [2015-11-27 06:04:57] Swedishnut : wow nice profit Bitmex save it and keep the lights on and buy a nice piece of your favorite meats or veggies [2015-11-27 06:05:04] zanza : j8: ? [2015-11-27 06:05:10] j8 : 0.05% [2015-11-27 06:05:22] zanza : each contract needs to be bought and sold [2015-11-27 06:05:32] zanza : goes through twice [2015-11-27 06:06:15] j8 : taker gives 0.05% to the exchange [2015-11-27 06:06:32] rapidtrades : zanza: maybe but the volume counts both no [2015-11-27 06:06:44] j8 : the volume is not double counted. [2015-11-27 06:06:47] BitMEX_Wally : Volume is not double counted [2015-11-27 06:06:55] zanza : ok [2015-11-27 06:07:00] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: why not? [2015-11-27 06:07:11] BitMEX_Wally : Because that is fraud [2015-11-27 06:07:19] rapidtrades : if I buy 1k and sell 1k should'nt the volume be 2k [2015-11-27 06:07:22] zanza : imagine how much money woodchipper makes [2015-11-27 06:07:38] BitMEX_Wally : If you buy 1k from someone selling 1k then that is a trade of 1k [2015-11-27 06:07:56] BitMEX_Wally : If you buy 1k and then later sell 1k yourself, then yes, that is 2k in total [2015-11-27 06:08:00] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: no but I meant buy 1k then close that 1k to sell [2015-11-27 06:08:09] rapidtrades : ok yes that's what i meant [2015-11-27 06:08:40] rapidtrades : so it's 0.05% on the toal volume...plus the rapaage during LIQ [2015-11-27 06:08:41] BitMEX_Wally : Cool [2015-11-27 06:10:02] j8 : the total take should be 0.0005*24hTurnover plus 0.0005*openInterest at settlement. i think [2015-11-27 06:10:19] BitMEX_Wally : Don't forget the referral discount of 10% [2015-11-27 06:10:24] j8 : right [2015-11-27 06:10:26] BitMEX_Wally : Plus paying out 10-20% as affiliate payments [2015-11-27 06:10:55] Swedishnut : thus in a add the cost up world you really made 3~ish BTC today [2015-11-27 06:11:08] SnackyCoins : but then there's the costs [2015-11-27 06:11:09] Swedishnut : pretty profitable miner [2015-11-27 06:11:19] SnackyCoins : like $40/mo amazon cloud ;) [2015-11-27 06:11:29] BitMEX_Wally : Our AWS bill is a bit more than that [2015-11-27 06:11:37] BitMEX_Wally : We have prod, stage, dev environments [2015-11-27 06:11:48] SnackyCoins : and... the domain, that's $12/yr [2015-11-27 06:11:48] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: so $80? [2015-11-27 06:11:50] zanza : and sam uses expensive ladies [2015-11-27 06:11:58] SnackyCoins : zanza: lol [2015-11-27 06:12:19] Swedishnut : thus what what is your opperating cost in btc per month? or would it be best described in USD fiat? [2015-11-27 06:12:26] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: lol [2015-11-27 06:12:32] zanza : they may not want to reveal that info @Swedishnut [2015-11-27 06:12:37] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: I doubbt u'll get that answer [2015-11-27 06:12:40] SnackyCoins : Swedishnut: never ask a lady her weight [2015-11-27 06:13:02] zanza : but OKC does like 150 the voume here right? [2015-11-27 06:13:03] Swedishnut : meh we all are people it is sexist to give preference [2015-11-27 06:13:13] BitMEX_Wally : You can schedule a call with Arthur if you'd like to invest [2015-11-27 06:13:14] zanza : imagine if we got a lot of people to move from OKC to here [2015-11-27 06:13:22] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: :) [2015-11-27 06:13:35] zanza : go refer people! [2015-11-27 06:13:41] BitMEX_Wally : OKCoin charges 0% fees on spot [2015-11-27 06:13:48] rapidtrades : zanza: I would be I have no friends [2015-11-27 06:14:06] zanza : BitMEX_Wally: their futures are like .1% though ? [2015-11-27 06:14:08] Swedishnut : wally I may do that. is there a private message system or could you simply message my account privately and I can move forward next week once I get my family on board [2015-11-27 06:14:20] rapidtrades : zanza: their futures are 0.03% total [2015-11-27 06:14:24] rapidtrades : open and close [2015-11-27 06:14:31] BitMEX_Wally : Swedishnut: Email info@bitmex.com [2015-11-27 06:14:54] j8 : okc weekly did 200,000 btc volume today [2015-11-27 06:15:04] j8 : `XBT24H` did 11,000 [2015-11-27 06:15:17] j8 : so, 5% [2015-11-27 06:15:22] zanza : so 18.1 x [2015-11-27 06:15:30] zanza : thats actually pretty good [2015-11-27 06:15:33] rapidtrades : that's 60 btc in commish [2015-11-27 06:15:40] rapidtrades : for okc [2015-11-27 06:15:40] zanza : yeah OKC is rolling [2015-11-27 06:16:01] zanza : I bet Bitmex has higher growth than OKC [2015-11-27 06:16:07] rapidtrades : it's like 21k per day....they prolly employ 50+ ppl tho [2015-11-27 06:16:34] Swedishnut : e-mailed :P [2015-11-27 06:16:39] rapidtrades : but they're chinese, so that's what $2500 per month? [2015-11-27 06:16:41] rapidtrades : :p [2015-11-27 06:17:50] Swedishnut : yeah I would put 1000USD on Bitmex over the chipper anyday [2015-11-27 06:19:28] Swedishnut : cash outs before settlement aren't adding to much on the chipper imop but who knows maybe Rapiddoes? [2015-11-27 06:20:27] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: I'd like cashouts before settlement...or at least the ability to use that cash for margin/trades [2015-11-27 06:21:52] j8 : just makes socialized losses worse [2015-11-27 06:22:13] zanza : j8: yup [2015-11-27 06:22:23] rapidtrades : j8: u don't know that [2015-11-27 06:22:31] j8 : yes, i do [2015-11-27 06:22:44] BitMEX_Wally : We are working on a way to let people withdraw realisedPnl without making DPE worse [2015-11-27 06:23:05] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: the ability to trade it would be enough for me [2015-11-27 06:23:10] BitMEX_Wally : It's all about the ratio of realised profits to unrealised losses [2015-11-27 06:23:38] rapidtrades : i can wait a week for withdrawl but I'd rather not have to re-deposit cos of clocked profits [2015-11-27 06:24:21] BitMEX_Wally : We're going to experiment with unlocking 50% of realisedPnls [2015-11-27 06:24:23] BitMEX_Wally : Subject to availability [2015-11-27 06:24:26] BitMEX_Wally : And the DPE rate being 0% [2015-11-27 06:24:34] j8 : that's cool. [2015-11-27 06:25:09] BitMEX_Wally : Then you can withdraw or re-leverage [2015-11-27 06:25:10] SnackyCoins : DPE already the best available method imo, waiting until settlement for taking money out is the standard everywhere [2015-11-27 06:25:34] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we want to improve standards :) [2015-11-27 06:25:45] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: yeah the problem is not being able to trade the profits [2015-11-27 06:25:49] Swedishnut : DPE means Deep Pe____ Entrusion? [2015-11-27 06:26:03] j8 : that will really help for trading calendar spreads [2015-11-27 06:26:17] BitMEX_Wally : Swedishnut: Haha [2015-11-27 06:28:20] Swedishnut : 5% back Black Fridy Deal Gift [2015-11-27 06:29:10] zanza : I think not having clawback is the bigger priority [2015-11-27 06:29:16] SnackyCoins : ^ [2015-11-27 06:31:39] Swedishnut : clawback is for kitties [2015-11-27 06:32:02] Swedishnut : real bulls full of hip run through the fear and doubt [2015-11-27 06:32:12] rapidtrades : okc settlemt in 2.5 hrs? [2015-11-27 06:32:57] j8 : 1.5 [2015-11-27 06:33:27] rapidtrades : j8: u sure? [2015-11-27 06:33:31] rapidtrades : are u logged in [2015-11-27 06:33:33] j8 : yes [2015-11-27 06:33:43] rapidtrades : k tnx [2015-11-27 06:34:16] rapidtrades : chinese don't do summer/winter time...thing keeps changing [2015-11-27 06:34:51] Swedishnut : there is a season for all things there and everyone is in their own year so everyone is dealing with their own shiznips [2015-11-27 06:35:12] Swedishnut : I'm technically a Rabbit [2015-11-27 06:35:30] Swedishnut : 1987 [2015-11-27 06:35:41] rapidtrades : BOOOM [2015-11-27 06:35:46] Swedishnut : which adds to 2015 :P [2015-11-27 06:35:47] rapidtrades : NOTHING'S HAPPENING [2015-11-27 06:37:09] Swedishnut : true it has been pretty slow [2015-11-27 06:37:22] Swedishnut : chat at least keeps rolling [2015-11-27 06:40:25] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: do u own a trezoe [2015-11-27 06:40:29] rapidtrades : r* [2015-11-27 06:40:44] Swedishnut : yes I own 3 now thanks to the BF deal [2015-11-27 06:41:06] Swedishnut : already have 1 here with me I've loved and used since March [2015-11-27 06:41:34] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: so u trust it huh...has it failed why do u need 3 [2015-11-27 06:41:53] Swedishnut : one for my father and the 2nd for my brother [2015-11-27 06:41:56] Swedishnut : I trust it [2015-11-27 06:42:13] Swedishnut : open source everything. so far people like it and are coders which I am not [2015-11-27 06:42:45] Swedishnut : I might be gullible for trusting people sometimes but my strong suit is seeing trends not crafting them [2015-11-27 06:47:01] Swedishnut : so do you think the chipper has a box that sends the chat to the exchange as inside info? [2015-11-27 06:49:02] rapidtrades : no? are u asking wally? [2015-11-27 06:50:37] rapidtrades : folks the holiday season is a sad time for some....remember if ur feeling bad, it can always get much much worse [2015-11-27 06:59:31] Swedishnut : indeed especially when your "expected" to spend 800+ usd on xmas for ____ [2015-11-27 07:01:09] rapidtrades : good thing I don't have friends and my family hates me [2015-11-27 07:02:51] Swedishnut : sounds like my boat too [2015-11-27 07:02:59] Swedishnut : black sheep here [2015-11-27 07:03:30] Swedishnut : they ask me to fix their computers but say I do not contribute to their world' [2015-11-27 07:06:18] rapidtrades : dam that sucks [2015-11-27 07:07:49] Swedishnut : I'll make my own way I'm sure. Create my own app or make a sweet trade and invest in mining etc... alt coins.... my own painting, woodworking, etc... will make me a "viable product" and keep me fed and alive until my use ceases [2015-11-27 07:12:32] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: gl man [2015-11-27 07:13:23] rapidtrades : any thoughts post-settlement? rally or crash? [2015-11-27 07:13:35] Swedishnut : ty Rabbits need all the luck they can get. Bottom of the food chain kinda bites [2015-11-27 07:13:52] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: :) [2015-11-27 07:14:20] j8 : just a year later and you would have been a dragon [2015-11-27 07:14:28] rapidtrades : is that what chinese think? bet they didn't have sex in 1987 [2015-11-27 07:14:53] Swedishnut : the philosophy of money drives me. Understand and you can reap with me [2015-11-27 07:15:35] Swedishnut : lol I have no clue on the sexual conditions of the chinese in 1987 :P [2015-11-27 07:17:04] rapidtrades : http://priceonomics.com/how-the-chinese-zodiac-affects-national-birth/ [2015-11-27 07:18:30] Swedishnut : yeah I may be a helpless rabbit but at least I'm trying to cross the tribulations :P [2015-11-27 07:21:46] Swedishnut : sure would be grand if the Dragon lifted the BTC price to XYZ above here [2015-11-27 07:23:37] rapidtrades : looks like we're not going anywhere until okc settlement [2015-11-27 07:37:11] Swedishnut : yea it looks like 350 for settle [2015-11-27 07:38:30] Swedishnut : then where/? [2015-11-27 07:45:57] j8 : up [2015-11-27 07:46:40] Swedishnut : so 355,360,65,70,75? [2015-11-27 07:46:56] j8 : all of these, eventually [2015-11-27 07:47:05] Swedishnut : right on [2015-11-27 07:47:28] j8 : for the next few hours it's just guessing [2015-11-27 07:47:33] Swedishnut : money is made on knowing time but I do believe the future will hold these values [2015-11-27 07:48:32] rapidtrades : we're going down maggos [2015-11-27 07:48:36] rapidtrades : maggots* [2015-11-27 07:49:44] j8 : later dudes. [2015-11-27 07:50:53] rapidtrades : j8: later [2015-11-27 07:53:58] Swedishnut : j8: /bow night good sir [2015-11-27 07:54:36] rapidtrades : fak this headache [2015-11-27 08:01:33] rapidtrades : DING DING DING [2015-11-27 08:03:12] Swedishnut : ;evel up? [2015-11-27 08:03:19] Swedishnut : level* [2015-11-27 08:03:30] rapidtrades : settlement [2015-11-27 08:03:47] Swedishnut : green doji [2015-11-27 08:04:51] Swedishnut : HUGE CANDLE [2015-11-27 08:04:59] wurstgelee : yep [2015-11-27 08:05:08] wurstgelee : fuck. i am 60 secs late :) [2015-11-27 08:05:19] Swedishnut : 360 [2015-11-27 08:05:24] rapidtrades : it's never too late to fomo [2015-11-27 08:05:45] Swedishnut : indeedly [2015-11-27 08:06:04] Swedishnut : simply unreal [2015-11-27 08:06:16] wurstgelee : 7d has a lower premim ;) [2015-11-27 08:06:23] wurstgelee : or had [2015-11-27 08:06:29] Swedishnut : 362.77 [2015-11-27 08:07:28] Swedishnut : 363.34 [2015-11-27 08:07:45] wurstgelee : the fuck [2015-11-27 08:07:54] Swedishnut : it is like a race began [2015-11-27 08:07:57] wurstgelee : yep [2015-11-27 08:08:10] Swedishnut : btc olympics [2015-11-27 08:08:26] wurstgelee : hu0bi touched 23000 [2015-11-27 08:08:44] wurstgelee : -0 [2015-11-27 08:08:45] Swedishnut : 365.8 [2015-11-27 08:09:37] wurstgelee : what and where? [2015-11-27 08:09:43] wurstgelee : 365.8? [2015-11-27 08:09:50] Swedishnut : woodchipper [2015-11-27 08:09:54] wurstgelee : oh k [2015-11-27 08:10:16] Swedishnut : 366.12 [2015-11-27 08:10:26] wurstgelee : insane [2015-11-27 08:10:35] podizzle3k : okcoin pumpin now too [2015-11-27 08:11:01] Swedishnut : simply INSANE [2015-11-27 08:11:43] laisee : roket ==> moon ... and beyond ;-0 [2015-11-27 08:13:22] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: did u short :p [2015-11-27 08:13:37] wurstgelee : ? [2015-11-27 08:16:07] cekseh : No, he's done his homework he doesn't lose money any more [2015-11-27 08:16:12] cekseh : =) [2015-11-27 08:16:38] wurstgelee : =) [2015-11-27 08:16:56] wurstgelee : full retrace, then moon please [2015-11-27 08:16:57] wurstgelee : thank you [2015-11-27 08:17:11] podizzle3k : full retrace to 2009? [2015-11-27 08:17:24] wurstgelee : nah, only that huge green [2015-11-27 08:17:36] wurstgelee : 2260n would be ok for me [2015-11-27 08:18:36] wurstgelee : small premium on 24h considered that move [2015-11-27 08:19:23] Swedishnut : appears the new week goal is 375