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[2017-04-10 00:35:45] hmmmYea : mark121: thats not what the veil of ignorance
[2017-04-10 00:35:53] hmmmYea : is
[2017-04-10 00:35:55] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: I totally agree!
[2017-04-10 00:36:14] mark121 : what do u mean lol
[2017-04-10 00:36:21] hmmmYea : veil of ignorance means you don't know who you are
[2017-04-10 00:36:22] mark121 : i ju smade it up
[2017-04-10 00:36:29] foobar : in 11 hours that swap is gonna go down if that funding rate stays that high
[2017-04-10 00:36:30] hmmmYea : no... you didnt
[2017-04-10 00:36:37] mark121 : LOL
[2017-04-10 00:36:43] mark121 : as in..
[2017-04-10 00:37:10] mark121 : you are surrounded by ignorance, your own, and that makes it difficult for u to advance
[2017-04-10 00:37:24] mark121 : and actually
[2017-04-10 00:37:29] hmmmYea : it construction in order to justify rawlsian justice
[2017-04-10 00:37:29] mark121 : id say sure , even that definition works
[2017-04-10 00:37:36] hmmmYea : it is a construction*
[2017-04-10 00:37:37] mark121 : LOL
[2017-04-10 00:37:54] hmmmYea : if you dont know who you are, what system of justice would you pick
[2017-04-10 00:37:56] XBT_IHCT : Can be real hard to do when using higher lev @KingTuna
[2017-04-10 00:38:04] hmmmYea : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_ignorance
[2017-04-10 00:38:10] hmmmYea : for your edification
[2017-04-10 00:38:11] mark121 : ya we kno u googled it
[2017-04-10 00:38:23] hmmmYea : i googled it for you
[2017-04-10 00:38:26] mark121 : sadly, it applies perfectly
[2017-04-10 00:38:33] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: how much lev do you typically use?
[2017-04-10 00:38:46] hmmmYea : its ignorance of self... not generalized ignorance of the state of nature
[2017-04-10 00:38:50] mark121 : im sorry for using u as an example
[2017-04-10 00:38:54] hmmmYea : lol
[2017-04-10 00:39:11] mark121 : but it applies still
[2017-04-10 00:39:16] XBT_IHCT : same question to you @mark121
[2017-04-10 00:39:25] hmmmYea : unfort no
[2017-04-10 00:39:29] mark121 : u are ignorant of your own ignorance
[2017-04-10 00:39:33] mark121 : and u jus proved it.
[2017-04-10 00:39:39] hmmmYea : you were just trying to sound learned
[2017-04-10 00:39:41] mark121 : sorry to digress
[2017-04-10 00:39:42] hmmmYea : but failed
[2017-04-10 00:39:44] hmmmYea : epic
[2017-04-10 00:40:07] mark121 : oh the irony
[2017-04-10 00:40:14] mark121 : sorry fellas i digress
[2017-04-10 00:40:16] KingTuna : XBT_IHCT: Depends on how risky the asset. Alt Vs BTC,. Like I would never normally go more than 10x.. But stick around 3-4x max
[2017-04-10 00:40:47] KingTuna : I prob FOMO'ed a little more at the beginning
[2017-04-10 00:40:56] mark121 : XBT_IHCT: sec
[2017-04-10 00:41:00] KingTuna : To build up capital
[2017-04-10 00:41:11] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: nice
[2017-04-10 00:41:24] KingTuna : But only when there is an exceptional opportunity, like we've seen recently
[2017-04-10 00:42:01] KingTuna : But FOMO = emotions, which I have mostly removed from the equation
[2017-04-10 00:42:05] mark121 : XBT_IHCT: yes, one of the bigger bad habits
[2017-04-10 00:42:09] mark121 : is over-trading
[2017-04-10 00:42:19] KingTuna : ^ +
[2017-04-10 00:42:30] mark121 : just cause u have time to trade , doesnt mean an opportunity will avail itself
[2017-04-10 00:42:45] KingTuna : I often sit out for a while after a really good trade, even though it is addictive
[2017-04-10 00:43:08] ripcord : [20:24] mark121: a pennant technically but same thing implication wise ripcord couldnt spot the breakout on that chart, yet he was talking shit lol
[2017-04-10 00:43:13] ripcord : you're a moron
[2017-04-10 00:43:13] KingTuna : I digest it, try and relax, go for a walk, go to gym perhaps have a nap lol
[2017-04-10 00:43:19] mark121 : oh the irony
[2017-04-10 00:43:48] ripcord : Anyone can see a god damn breakout
[2017-04-10 00:43:51] mark121 : ripcord: u r right man, no breakout, just stop talking now (mayb skype with hmmmyea)
[2017-04-10 00:44:10] mark121 : KingTuna: exactly
[2017-04-10 00:44:17] ripcord : You called "breakout" as if it was happening at that moment
[2017-04-10 00:44:19] mark121 : as buffet says
[2017-04-10 00:44:21] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: yeah, that is something I need to work on for sure
[2017-04-10 00:44:23] mark121 : u only need one or two good trades per year
[2017-04-10 00:44:55] mark121 : now for non billionaires thats a little low but quality over quantity
[2017-04-10 00:45:01] XBT_IHCT : well that kind of depends how much you're playing with no?
[2017-04-10 00:45:11] mark121 : wht it rly means is
[2017-04-10 00:45:25] mark121 : when u see somethin thats truly in the bag, like the rally today
[2017-04-10 00:45:29] mark121 : (potentially)
[2017-04-10 00:45:47] mark121 : u want to really go hard
[2017-04-10 00:45:54] mark121 : (take a big position)
[2017-04-10 00:46:06] mark121 : ie..
[2017-04-10 00:46:20] XBT_IHCT : I'm trying to limit myself a lot more now
[2017-04-10 00:46:25] mark121 : over trading can slowly tap ur ability to open large positions
[2017-04-10 00:46:30] ripcord : I can't believe you're STILL spewing bullshit
[2017-04-10 00:47:30] XBT_IHCT : The last time I really messed up cost about 10 coins @mark121
[2017-04-10 00:47:53] mark121 : learning to tak ea loss is also a thing
[2017-04-10 00:48:10] MikeHunt : its like the old saying... you're not a trader until you've rekt your first account
[2017-04-10 00:48:42] mark121 : or in ripcords case, you're not a trader, period.
[2017-04-10 00:49:04] ripcord : You got me figured out man. You should be a psychologist.
[2017-04-10 00:49:33] mark121 : almost was
[2017-04-10 00:49:38] ripcord : No doubt
[2017-04-10 00:49:46] ripcord : doesn't take much
[2017-04-10 00:49:47] mark121 : but not enuf money in it
[2017-04-10 00:50:33] mark121 : a high EQ is more important for upward mobility than sheer booksmarts
[2017-04-10 00:50:41] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: hey how old are you guys @mark121
[2017-04-10 00:50:57] mark121 : im in my 30's
[2017-04-10 00:51:21] XBT_IHCT : how far into them are you @mark121
[2017-04-10 00:51:43] ripcord : XBT_IHCT: http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=2521546
[2017-04-10 00:52:02] ripcord : "currency trader"
[2017-04-10 00:52:06] mark121 : not to far, a little older than mark
[2017-04-10 00:52:27] mark121 : wtf is that LOL
[2017-04-10 00:52:37] mark121 : oh u made my day with that one
[2017-04-10 00:53:08] XBT_IHCT : How about you? @KingTuna
[2017-04-10 00:54:39] mark121 : how about u XBT_IHCT
[2017-04-10 00:54:52] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: you've been trading crypto for at least ~2 years more than I have
[2017-04-10 00:54:52] ripcord : Gotta go back to real life. Enjoy.
[2017-04-10 00:55:11] mark121 : ya run along, cant comeback from that lol
[2017-04-10 00:55:28] XBT_IHCT : I'm 38 @mark121
[2017-04-10 00:56:19] mark121 : KingTuna: dude i googled u, are u a giant fish? https://www.hawaiibusinessonline.com/wp-content/themes/directorypress/thumbs/wp-1483609992845.jpg
[2017-04-10 00:57:06] Sultan Pepper : Numanumahukahukaapua'a
[2017-04-10 00:57:07] mark121 : XBT_IHCT: true
[2017-04-10 00:57:31] KingTuna : XBT_IHCT: Also in my 30s ;)
[2017-04-10 00:57:32] mark121 : did u take time to learn some basics or did u jump in
[2017-04-10 00:57:37] mark121 : straigh tto trading
[2017-04-10 00:58:16] mark121 : no wrong answer
[2017-04-10 00:58:44] XBT_IHCT : mark121: kind of tentatively jumped in
[2017-04-10 00:58:52] KingTuna : mark121: ha ha yes.. I do remember seeing them for auction at the Tokyo fish markets - They were going for upwards of $30k ! So I am King Tuna, because I am not plankton, but I am also not quite a whale :P
[2017-04-10 00:59:44] mark121 : if u die, may i eat you? (non-gay)
[2017-04-10 01:00:05] KingTuna : LOL
[2017-04-10 01:00:06] mark121 : i would like to the belly
[2017-04-10 01:00:10] mark121 : maguro
[2017-04-10 01:00:12] KingTuna : Only with a bit of soy and wasabi
[2017-04-10 01:00:17] mark121 : deal!
[2017-04-10 01:00:34] mark121 : heh XBT_IHCT i really suggrest a book or two
[2017-04-10 01:00:43] mark121 : it wud put u ahead of 97% of crypto guys
[2017-04-10 01:01:08] mark121 : i mean specific book(s)
[2017-04-10 01:01:36] XBT_IHCT : sure man
[2017-04-10 01:02:00] mark121 : do u have an email i can send u the pdf(s)
[2017-04-10 01:02:31] mark121 : wil be later tonight but i have just aobut every book on the subject in pdf format lol
[2017-04-10 01:03:10] mark121 : u get what u put in - and it is interesting trading first than reading it
[2017-04-10 01:03:24] mark121 : lots of "oH THATS what it is" moments
[2017-04-10 01:03:29] mark121 : or somethin similar
[2017-04-10 01:03:48] XBT_IHCT : do you have twitter?
[2017-04-10 01:04:24] mark121 : sure,
[2017-04-10 01:04:38] XBT_IHCT : rather not put my email in the trollbox
[2017-04-10 01:04:43] mark121 : i figured
[2017-04-10 01:04:53] mark121 : lets do it other wa yaround
[2017-04-10 01:04:59] mark121 : croatian_traveler_man@gmail.com
[2017-04-10 01:05:11] mark121 : its a garbage email for this very purpose
[2017-04-10 01:05:46] KingTuna : LOL @ email
[2017-04-10 01:05:51] mark121 : hahah
[2017-04-10 01:06:33] KingTuna : Not too sure about these 'Croatians' ;)
[2017-04-10 01:06:41] mark121 : i remmber my first email
[2017-04-10 01:06:49] mark121 : aceface
[2017-04-10 01:06:57] mark121 : @hotmail.com
[2017-04-10 01:07:17] mark121 : oh i may have had b4 on netscape navigator cant recall lol
[2017-04-10 01:07:53] XBT_IHCT : lol
[2017-04-10 01:09:19] mark121 : KingTuna: if u want sumthn u kno which traveling man to email
[2017-04-10 01:09:52] mark121 : Im serbian, even worse :p
[2017-04-10 01:13:51] KingTuna : mark121: I'll shoot you an email sometime :) May take you up on your offer. I have travelled through ALL the balkan countries, loved them!
[2017-04-10 01:14:12] KingTuna : Even Beograd
[2017-04-10 01:15:03] mark121 : very nice, did u eat chevape
[2017-04-10 01:15:24] mark121 : its like little meatballs made of 3 diff meats rolled into small cycliners
[2017-04-10 01:15:43] mark121 : usally served on onion
[2017-04-10 01:15:54] mark121 : and bread on the side
[2017-04-10 01:16:35] mark121 : -- maybe not, but im sure u noticed the ladies
[2017-04-10 01:17:40] KingTuna : mark121: I did, kind of like a sausage, loved it!
[2017-04-10 01:17:48] mark121 : yes exactly
[2017-04-10 01:18:00] mark121 : u are a true balkan then
[2017-04-10 01:18:10] mark121 : honorary
[2017-04-10 01:18:11] mark121 : :p
[2017-04-10 01:18:14] XBT_IHCT : mark121: hey that email bounced!?
[2017-04-10 01:18:24] mark121 : croatian_traveler_man@gmail.com
[2017-04-10 01:18:25] shillosopher : that sounds so tasty
[2017-04-10 01:19:06] KingTuna : One of my fave places, other than Dubrovnik, was Sarajevo and Mostar, cool little cities - Bosnia , only country in Europe without a Mcdonalds, because the food is so affordable and good
[2017-04-10 01:19:26] mark121 : spot on
[2017-04-10 01:19:44] mark121 : i honestly have them once per day when im there
[2017-04-10 01:19:54] mark121 : lil beer first .. godlike!
[2017-04-10 01:20:09] XBT_IHCT : mark121: yeah that one
[2017-04-10 01:20:17] mark121 : it didnt work?
[2017-04-10 01:20:21] mark121 : let me test
[2017-04-10 01:21:03] mark121 : oh
[2017-04-10 01:21:06] mark121 : my fault
[2017-04-10 01:21:14] mark121 : croatian.traveler.man@gmail.com
[2017-04-10 01:21:22] mark121 : sorry!
[2017-04-10 01:22:11] mark121 : KingTuna: ya ive been to all 3 cities
[2017-04-10 01:22:19] mark121 : every1 loves dubrovnik
[2017-04-10 01:22:31] mark121 : did u learn to say Zdravo
[2017-04-10 01:22:36] mark121 : and Hvala
[2017-04-10 01:22:45] mark121 : (fa-la)
[2017-04-10 01:23:01] mark121 : hi and thank you
[2017-04-10 01:23:24] Secup : hola
[2017-04-10 01:23:26] Secup : soooo
[2017-04-10 01:23:30] Secup : havent dropped yet as i can see
[2017-04-10 01:23:56] mark121 : Secup: it wouldnt make sense beyond a lil movement
[2017-04-10 01:24:13] mark121 : like u arnt going to see some mega drop
[2017-04-10 01:24:21] KingTuna : mark121: I am sure I attempted to lOL
[2017-04-10 01:25:01] KingTuna : BearStamp
[2017-04-10 01:25:16] Secup : ahen :D
[2017-04-10 01:25:18] mark121 : its the thought that counts
[2017-04-10 01:25:23] mark121 : :D
[2017-04-10 01:25:51] mark121 : i have a cottage on the adriatic on border of italy/croatia
[2017-04-10 01:26:26] mark121 : there u go secup
[2017-04-10 01:26:33] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-10 01:26:45] Secup : hehe
[2017-04-10 01:27:17] Secup : i got in at 1185 yesterday
[2017-04-10 01:27:19] Secup : shorting
[2017-04-10 01:27:25] Secup : so , i have a long way :D
[2017-04-10 01:27:35] mark121 : ah
[2017-04-10 01:27:55] Secup : put a stop at 1100
[2017-04-10 01:28:04] Secup : 1101 exactly
[2017-04-10 01:28:29] Secup : i might stop my loss at 1 btc soon tho
[2017-04-10 01:28:48] mark121 : i am quite sure it wont go that far, (i mean this to help)
[2017-04-10 01:28:50] Secup : depends how it goes inthe next few hours
[2017-04-10 01:28:53] mark121 : so ya thats smart
[2017-04-10 01:29:07] mark121 : let me see actualy i gota re eval
[2017-04-10 01:29:54] Secup : /sentiment
[2017-04-10 01:29:57] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.24 / 44.76 Daily : 36.07 / 63.93 Weekly : 44.82 / 55.18 Monthly : 50.54 / 49.46```
[2017-04-10 01:30:01] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/5IcjHxjM/
[2017-04-10 01:30:43] Secup : oh
[2017-04-10 01:30:50] Secup : 1160
[2017-04-10 01:30:53] mark121 : its bacially for sure going up beyond a little bit
[2017-04-10 01:31:02] mark121 : of chop here
[2017-04-10 01:32:02] mark121 : i think it wil bounce off the triangles top trendline as it hasalryd broken out
[2017-04-10 01:32:05] mark121 : its a touchback
[2017-04-10 01:33:03] mark121 : keep in mind the price diffeent, so u jus go by the point change ($ change)
[2017-04-10 01:33:23] Secup : we will see my friend
[2017-04-10 01:33:54] mark121 : its going up from here
[2017-04-10 01:34:04] Secup : i hope
[2017-04-10 01:34:04] KingTuna : This is going up. Can't see it reach ATH any time soon, but up for now
[2017-04-10 01:34:10] Secup : for my holdings
[2017-04-10 01:34:22] mark121 : so close ur short asap
[2017-04-10 01:34:28] Secup : but not for my trading session lol
[2017-04-10 01:34:38] mark121 : 1205 wud be lucky
[2017-04-10 01:34:39] KingTuna : Hanging on to the "hopium"
[2017-04-10 01:34:52] Secup : i might close it a t 1.5 btc down
[2017-04-10 01:34:56] Secup : 1.69 now
[2017-04-10 01:35:00] Secup : -200 % :/
[2017-04-10 01:35:17] mark121 : u win some u lose some, but better to chop the infected arm b4 it spreads :)
[2017-04-10 01:35:41] mark121 : boom
[2017-04-10 01:35:46] Secup : lol
[2017-04-10 01:36:48] mark121 : this voodoo is so lucky
[2017-04-10 01:37:56] mark121 : that sure is a lot of selling :p
[2017-04-10 01:38:19] Secup : 100k
[2017-04-10 01:38:30] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-10 01:40:16] mark121 : whos selling into that
[2017-04-10 01:42:02] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-04-10 01:42:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 56.42 / 43.58 Daily : 36.47 / 63.53 Weekly : 44.84 / 55.16 Monthly : 50.54 / 49.46```
[2017-04-10 01:42:19] mark121 : interesting
[2017-04-10 01:42:33] mark121 : i imagine many longs are jus holding hence the daily vs hourly
[2017-04-10 01:43:39] mark121 : im hopin its a fake triangle and u can cover lower
[2017-04-10 01:43:58] Secup : ill be fine , no worries
[2017-04-10 01:44:09] Secup : i have plenty coinz :D
[2017-04-10 01:44:15] Secup : to cover my bad moves hehe
[2017-04-10 01:44:43] KingTuna : Alts doing this bounce thing, even LTC
[2017-04-10 01:44:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/yLFpE6zZ/
[2017-04-10 01:45:50] mark121 : up now
[2017-04-10 01:51:35] Secup : yep
[2017-04-10 01:58:16] XBT_IHCT : good luck chaps, I'm going to bed now I think
[2017-04-10 02:03:51] shillosopher : gn
[2017-04-10 02:05:22] arbitrage101 : good morning, all
[2017-04-10 02:05:30] arbitrage101 : how is fellow trolls doing?
[2017-04-10 02:05:36] arbitrage101 : getting killed by funding?
[2017-04-10 02:08:53] arbitrage101 : so quiet
[2017-04-10 02:13:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 40 @ 0.00795
[2017-04-10 02:27:32] shillosopher : gm
[2017-04-10 02:32:46] Secup : this getting interesting.
[2017-04-10 02:33:25] arbitrage101 : what us
[2017-04-10 02:33:27] arbitrage101 : what is
[2017-04-10 02:33:38] arbitrage101 : ltc to 500?
[2017-04-10 02:33:42] arbitrage101 : or btc to 5000
[2017-04-10 02:34:09] MikeHunt : btc to 1500
[2017-04-10 02:34:12] MikeHunt : ltc to shit the bed
[2017-04-10 02:36:11] Secup : 1500 idk
[2017-04-10 02:36:12] plappa : yup
[2017-04-10 02:36:19] plappa : we didn't see an alt fomo rekt yet
[2017-04-10 02:36:56] MikeHunt : Secup: i just wanted to use a 5 to play on from what arb said
[2017-04-10 02:37:00] MikeHunt : 1400 probably more realistic
[2017-04-10 02:37:23] Secup : im for it :)
[2017-04-10 02:40:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 278 @ 1217.2
[2017-04-10 02:40:18] KingTuna : There we go, bouncing back ::)
[2017-04-10 02:40:45] brojo : i flipfliped right at the rverse head and shoulder glad i road it out
[2017-04-10 02:40:52] brojo : have 128k xbtusd contracts
[2017-04-10 02:41:42] Secup : what is btc ath ?
[2017-04-10 02:42:53] plappa : 132x?
[2017-04-10 02:42:55] plappa : something like that
[2017-04-10 02:42:59] plappa : it was like for a second on finex
[2017-04-10 02:43:10] plappa : 1336.4
[2017-04-10 02:43:15] plappa : most epic candle of all time
[2017-04-10 02:44:13] Secup : kk
[2017-04-10 02:47:08] MikeHunt : rumour is that if it hit 1337, btc would have gone straight to 10k
[2017-04-10 02:47:25] MikeHunt : http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/216/7nTnr.png
[2017-04-10 02:52:29] shillosopher : BTC to 1500 soon ™
[2017-04-10 03:04:48] mark121 : fomo time
[2017-04-10 03:05:08] MK1 : Secup: all time high
[2017-04-10 03:05:29] mark121 : hey MK1 i googled u, how come first webpage wasnt about you?
[2017-04-10 03:05:53] mark121 : suspicious to say the least!
[2017-04-10 03:06:39] mark121 : I kid, it was you <3 glhf trades
[2017-04-10 03:07:23] mark121 : shillosopher: pfft i dont see 1500 and its been like 15 mins
[2017-04-10 03:07:53] mark121 : shillosopher: u even who u say u are ? I google u and auto correct?
[2017-04-10 03:09:05] mark121 : Im here all week folks! *drum sound for a joke*
[2017-04-10 03:09:11] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-10 03:10:19] hmmmYea : what is more annoying than looking down and seeing that mark121 filled it with a wall of text?
[2017-04-10 03:10:32] mark121 : to you probably
[2017-04-10 03:10:34] hmmmYea : again
[2017-04-10 03:10:59] mark121 : im surprised u have the courage to come around - i guess its that veil of ignorance
[2017-04-10 03:11:28] mark121 : Happiness > Hostility my friend
[2017-04-10 03:12:00] mark121 : Again, even the egyptians understood the golden rule
[2017-04-10 03:12:07] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-10 03:14:18] mark121 : Farzad had warned me about the enemies I would make ...
[2017-04-10 03:14:33] mark121 : /mods
[2017-04-10 03:14:35] MK1 : mark121: lol
[2017-04-10 03:14:54] mark121 : /modlist
[2017-04-10 03:15:01] mark121 : 2 x fail
[2017-04-10 03:15:28] hmmmYea : /mute mark121
[2017-04-10 03:15:42] mark121 : Seriously, if u cud bottle your lack of self awareness
[2017-04-10 03:15:56] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-04-10 03:15:59] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.58 / 69.42 Daily : 36.54 / 63.46 Weekly : 44.82 / 55.18 Monthly : 50.52 / 49.48```
[2017-04-10 03:17:41] hmmmYea : thats so much better
[2017-04-10 03:18:13] mark121 : Why thank you, but its a little late for compliments
[2017-04-10 03:19:29] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-10 03:19:31] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1209.01 (0.10%) Bitfinex : 1217.50 (-0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1211.84 (0.15%) itBit : 1210.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1213.86 (0.07%) GDAX : 1217.19 (0.56%) SLQ : 4 hours, ```
[2017-04-10 03:25:16] mark121 : Oh excellent, I am pleased with these prices
[2017-04-10 03:27:31] Emilio : Hay chilenos aca
[2017-04-10 03:29:25] foobar : I am surprised the fair basis isn't much higher on that XBTM17, with the coming rates being so high
[2017-04-10 03:37:43] Uninterestingmm : I know it seems counterintuitive, but the best time to buy the future and sell the swap is actually when the funding is negative
[2017-04-10 03:39:08] arbitrage101 : how is it counteractive ?
[2017-04-10 03:39:23] arbitrage101 : counter-intuitive that is
[2017-04-10 03:39:25] mark121 : hes short for a negative funding
[2017-04-10 03:39:40] mark121 : rather than buy the swap and sell the future
[2017-04-10 03:39:45] hmmmYea : foobar: funding got flipped on 1 850k rekt earlier. maybe people dont believe its gonna last
[2017-04-10 03:40:05] arbitrage101 : counter intuitive is when you buy swap and sell future when the funding is positive
[2017-04-10 03:40:19] mark121 : lol!
[2017-04-10 03:40:30] mark121 : yes, thats the opposite
[2017-04-10 03:40:44] mark121 : ucan be counter intuitive on both sides :D
[2017-04-10 03:40:53] arbitrage101 : or sell swap and buy future when funding is negative
[2017-04-10 03:41:01] arbitrage101 : never mind, that is what you said
[2017-04-10 03:41:06] arbitrage101 : yes, you are right
[2017-04-10 03:41:37] arbitrage101 : i have my ass handed to me on the last few funding period by doing intuitive trading
[2017-04-10 03:42:53] mark121 : Uninterestingmm: why wud that be best time?
[2017-04-10 03:43:41] mark121 : at times it takes more than one period to reverse the funding rate, i.e. after extended downside
[2017-04-10 03:44:22] arbitrage101 : every trader is trying to take advantage of funding and distort the market
[2017-04-10 03:44:34] arbitrage101 : making the trade a "bad" deal
[2017-04-10 03:44:48] mark121 : unles ur super high leverage
[2017-04-10 03:45:21] mark121 : i wud imagine nailin the actual trend supercedes any temp distortion
[2017-04-10 03:48:01] arbitrage101 : need to think 2 steps ahead rather than 1 step ahead
[2017-04-10 03:48:44] arbitrage101 : close all my swap
[2017-04-10 03:48:58] arbitrage101 : screw funding from now on
[2017-04-10 03:49:15] arbitrage101 : will only trade for funding if the spread is wide enough
[2017-04-10 03:53:47] mark121 : good call - the alternative as standard practice didnt even cross my mind
[2017-04-10 03:55:34] brojo : /price
[2017-04-10 03:55:36] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1212.29 (0.27%) Bitfinex : 1219.60 (0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1210.12 (-0.14%) itBit : 1210.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1216.98 (0.26%) GDAX : 1217.67 (0.04%) SLQ : 36 mins```
[2017-04-10 04:01:48] brojo : this is perfect bull pennant on the xbt
[2017-04-10 04:02:13] brojo : look for a $20-30pop here in next 30 to an hour
[2017-04-10 04:09:34] plappa : is there a limit to how much you can do here on mex?
[2017-04-10 04:10:00] MikeHunt : plappa: you cant be northern mex
[2017-04-10 04:10:03] arbitrage101 : pretty sure the limit can cover most traders here
[2017-04-10 04:10:17] plappa : what is the limit :)
[2017-04-10 04:10:23] plappa : can you do like 100btc 100x long
[2017-04-10 04:10:50] MikeHunt : plappa: u can do any size you like, you success is restricted by ADL, your failure by rekt
[2017-04-10 04:10:55] arbitrage101 : 1100 btc with higher maintenance margin
[2017-04-10 04:11:05] plappa : ok going 100x long ;)
[2017-04-10 04:11:06] arbitrage101 : check your risk limit option
[2017-04-10 04:11:09] plappa : no iw as just curious
[2017-04-10 04:11:33] brojo : is 100x leverage too much?
[2017-04-10 04:11:37] arbitrage101 : plappa: https://www.bitmex.com/app/riskLimits
[2017-04-10 04:11:37] plappa : too little
[2017-04-10 04:11:49] plappa : only get out of bed for 100x long
[2017-04-10 04:11:52] plappa : 500*
[2017-04-10 04:12:24] brojo : im 95x long 2btc right now
[2017-04-10 04:12:42] KyllingLolsson : Omg
[2017-04-10 04:12:52] KyllingLolsson : 95x 2btc
[2017-04-10 04:13:00] plappa : that's not much i think
[2017-04-10 04:13:01] KyllingLolsson : Haha
[2017-04-10 04:13:03] plappa : i'm 100x long on .5btc
[2017-04-10 04:13:12] KyllingLolsson : U guys stupid
[2017-04-10 04:13:15] plappa : y?
[2017-04-10 04:13:30] KyllingLolsson : You only have an error margin of 10$
[2017-04-10 04:13:36] brojo : i made 57000 usd in december trading on leverage
[2017-04-10 04:13:40] brojo : yeah but if you get it right at the begining
[2017-04-10 04:13:50] brojo : you can let it run and make 100x return easy
[2017-04-10 04:13:53] plappa : idk i'm a new trader
[2017-04-10 04:13:54] KyllingLolsson : Suit yourself
[2017-04-10 04:14:10] plappa : @brojo how much of a price difference do you need for 100x?
[2017-04-10 04:14:24] KyllingLolsson : Not gonnna argue woth you, lose it if u want
[2017-04-10 04:14:26] brojo : plappa: what do you mean
[2017-04-10 04:14:27] brojo : to get rekt?
[2017-04-10 04:14:33] brojo : im pretty close to getting rekt
[2017-04-10 04:14:43] brojo : im -.8btc on the trade
[2017-04-10 04:14:46] brojo : and i lost a trade short earlier
[2017-04-10 04:14:51] plappa : no i mean how much of a price difference do you need to get 100 percent returns
[2017-04-10 04:14:51] brojo : been on the wrong side but i see this higher
[2017-04-10 04:14:53] KyllingLolsson : brojo: then never do 100
[2017-04-10 04:14:59] plappa : i mean 100x
[2017-04-10 04:15:13] brojo : 100x return need a double in price
[2017-04-10 04:15:28] brojo : so a 10 percent move is a 10x
[2017-04-10 04:15:31] plappa : lol what were you trading
[2017-04-10 04:15:39] plappa : eth?
[2017-04-10 04:16:04] brojo : i usually dont but im on drugs tonight
[2017-04-10 04:16:07] brojo : and feel like crying
[2017-04-10 04:16:11] plappa : i'm sorry
[2017-04-10 04:16:12] plappa : what drugs
[2017-04-10 04:16:26] brojo : cocaine
[2017-04-10 04:16:30] brojo : and whiskey
[2017-04-10 04:16:46] plappa : take some xanax and go to sleep
[2017-04-10 04:16:50] plappa : actrually dont do that u might die
[2017-04-10 04:16:58] brojo : i already did
[2017-04-10 04:17:05] brojo : im perscribed xanax doesnt do much to me
[2017-04-10 04:17:09] plappa : yeah i would tell u dont trade
[2017-04-10 04:17:13] plappa : when u are under the influence
[2017-04-10 04:17:17] KyllingLolsson : Yup
[2017-04-10 04:17:21] brojo : i have 50 btc in storage
[2017-04-10 04:17:24] brojo : felt like gambling a bit
[2017-04-10 04:17:28] KyllingLolsson : Hey
[2017-04-10 04:17:32] brojo : lots of little bull pendants
[2017-04-10 04:17:35] KyllingLolsson : Give them ti me instead
[2017-04-10 04:17:42] KyllingLolsson : Lol
[2017-04-10 04:17:45] brojo : just waitng for the green dildo of glory
[2017-04-10 04:17:59] KyllingLolsson : Ur coked up
[2017-04-10 04:18:06] KyllingLolsson : Dont
[2017-04-10 04:18:16] brojo : im always coked up
[2017-04-10 04:18:18] brojo : im a day trader
[2017-04-10 04:18:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 2060 @ 0.00759
[2017-04-10 04:18:29] brojo : or adderall
[2017-04-10 04:18:32] brojo : but coke on the weekends
[2017-04-10 04:18:41] brojo : but enough about my personal
[2017-04-10 04:18:45] brojo : how about the cart
[2017-04-10 04:19:06] brojo : we have a little pendant forming
[2017-04-10 04:19:13] KyllingLolsson : I know you feel like a mess. Dont pretend otherwise
[2017-04-10 04:19:23] brojo : haha i feel fine bro
[2017-04-10 04:19:31] brojo : i did a keybump bc i was tired and hungover from going out last night
[2017-04-10 04:19:32] KyllingLolsson : You can run from ur feelies but. Not hide
[2017-04-10 04:19:40] brojo : and im waiting for my asian guys to get online to buy ads with
[2017-04-10 04:19:54] brojo : so i decided to gamble 2400 on bitcoin for a bit
[2017-04-10 04:20:02] brojo : not going to ruin my life it doesnt work out
[2017-04-10 04:20:17] brojo : i was short earlier and flip flppped
[2017-04-10 04:20:29] brojo : short about 4 hours ago
[2017-04-10 04:20:36] plappa : dont short the bull
[2017-04-10 04:20:40] brojo : went long as it was climbing
[2017-04-10 04:20:44] brojo : thats how i trade tho
[2017-04-10 04:20:51] brojo : i tarde high leverage for quick profits
[2017-04-10 04:21:11] brojo : but i hold cold storage 95 percent
[2017-04-10 04:21:19] brojo : and play leveraged play on my tech analysis
[2017-04-10 04:21:25] brojo : i was a stock broker for 8 years
[2017-04-10 04:21:39] brojo : and now run internet advertising agency and am starting a btc coaching class
[2017-04-10 04:21:43] brojo : seminar
[2017-04-10 04:21:47] brojo : how to trade
[2017-04-10 04:21:57] KyllingLolsson : Read eckhart tolle.
[2017-04-10 04:21:59] brojo : why it shoul dbe a part of every investors portfolio
[2017-04-10 04:22:07] brojo : you have a good link
[2017-04-10 04:22:21] brojo : im looking ot listen to some new podcasts ive never listened to podcast
[2017-04-10 04:22:25] KyllingLolsson : Not atm. Google a bew esrth
[2017-04-10 04:22:30] KyllingLolsson : Earth
[2017-04-10 04:22:38] KyllingLolsson : A new earth
[2017-04-10 04:22:53] KyllingLolsson : He has autio books
[2017-04-10 04:23:04] KyllingLolsson : On mobile cant spell
[2017-04-10 04:24:42] brojo : you are involved in internet marketing or trading only
[2017-04-10 04:24:44] brojo : is this your full time gig?
[2017-04-10 04:24:48] KyllingLolsson : https://youtu.be/dTFDfR47dl4 @brojo
[2017-04-10 04:25:28] brojo : KyllingLolsson: ty
[2017-04-10 04:25:51] KyllingLolsson : brojo: i work as retouch artist at ikea. Trying to learn trading. Been doing it for 2yrs.
[2017-04-10 04:26:11] brojo : KyllingLolsson: they just put a HUGE ikea in by my office in this tech startup business
[2017-04-10 04:26:16] brojo : building*
[2017-04-10 04:26:22] brojo : ive been trading for 15 now
[2017-04-10 04:26:36] mark121 : fyi
[2017-04-10 04:26:50] brojo : worked for a big bank until 6 months ago for 8 years under 2 big brokers i was the jr helped manage 500mm in assets mainly stocks and etds
[2017-04-10 04:26:52] brojo : etfs
[2017-04-10 04:26:53] mark121 : more than one person in this chat doesnt believe in technical analysis
[2017-04-10 04:26:59] mark121 : believe it or not
[2017-04-10 04:27:42] mark121 : also fibonacci, golden ratio, fractals -
[2017-04-10 04:28:41] brojo : i mean its looking at the past to predict the future
[2017-04-10 04:28:44] brojo : and there are so many variables
[2017-04-10 04:29:01] brojo : i just follow the trend and look for panic situations to try to levearge
[2017-04-10 04:29:09] brojo : so today is terrible as its just slop sideways
[2017-04-10 04:29:29] brojo : on btc --- the other coins have not enough volume here for me to trade 50-100xbt worth
[2017-04-10 04:29:30] mark121 : it was an easy read from 1177
[2017-04-10 04:29:37] mark121 : about 20 hrs ago
[2017-04-10 04:29:50] mark121 : some do
[2017-04-10 04:29:54] brojo : i think we see a retrace to 1180 but what do i know
[2017-04-10 04:30:11] mark121 : ya that doesnt sound right :p
[2017-04-10 04:30:20] brojo : but first i think we do a fake out to the upside
[2017-04-10 04:30:24] brojo : everything is fake with btc
[2017-04-10 04:30:27] brojo : fake buy sell walls
[2017-04-10 04:30:38] mark121 : lol a man after my own heaty
[2017-04-10 04:30:41] mark121 : heart*
[2017-04-10 04:30:55] brojo : i mean whatever its lining up to do
[2017-04-10 04:31:03] brojo : it will do it for 75% of the time then go the complete other way
[2017-04-10 04:31:03] mark121 : as in most trading
[2017-04-10 04:31:14] brojo : index and forex alot easier to read
[2017-04-10 04:31:20] mark121 : actually
[2017-04-10 04:31:27] mark121 : btc until several weeks ago
[2017-04-10 04:31:52] mark121 : was the most natural and easy read of all assets and i work in eqiuities
[2017-04-10 04:31:57] mark121 : ive ever seen
[2017-04-10 04:32:32] mark121 : likely as it was less developed everything (bots especially) not as complex or smart as in mature markets
[2017-04-10 04:32:47] rapidtrades : LTC in hospital, cutting the IV with its teeth to end it all
[2017-04-10 04:32:56] mark121 : lately they have really started to do some wonky shit, seeing patterns ive never seen b4 in btc
[2017-04-10 04:33:17] mark121 : changed quite dramatically
[2017-04-10 04:33:20] mark121 : whatever the reason
[2017-04-10 04:33:23] mark121 : rapidtrades: lol!
[2017-04-10 04:33:30] rapidtrades : (after surviving earlier fall)
[2017-04-10 04:33:40] shillosopher : rapidtrades: yea ltc tryin hard to end it all
[2017-04-10 04:33:47] mark121 : hahah
[2017-04-10 04:37:54] KyllingLolsson : Somebody on the morning train smells like plain yoghurt
[2017-04-10 04:38:05] KyllingLolsson : :/
[2017-04-10 04:38:34] shillosopher : haha wtf
[2017-04-10 04:39:01] KyllingLolsson : :)
[2017-04-10 04:39:36] mark121 : that flaglike pattern breaking down like that is kind of a normal move for BTC , wil go up after downside
[2017-04-10 04:40:15] mark121 : dip* and dip is nearly complete if all is kosher
[2017-04-10 04:41:13] mark121 : plus alts leaking it seems
[2017-04-10 04:41:49] mark121 : oh its the same fractal
[2017-04-10 04:43:02] KingTuna : mark121: Do you have some price targets in mind?
[2017-04-10 04:43:28] rapidtrades : u mean 880?
[2017-04-10 04:43:38] mark121 : if any1 recalls u can see the similarity quite easily
[2017-04-10 04:43:40] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/snUhUbrL/
[2017-04-10 04:44:39] rapidtrades : i got banned by the r/litecoin fascists for questioning the UASF
[2017-04-10 04:44:45] mark121 : lool
[2017-04-10 04:44:51] mark121 : KingTuna: um
[2017-04-10 04:45:01] mark121 : KingTuna: i do sec
[2017-04-10 04:45:31] rapidtrades : they're trying hard to keep up the pump so they can dump
[2017-04-10 04:45:48] shillosopher : rapidtrades: I agree with you there
[2017-04-10 04:46:32] arbitrage101 : do you think that is how market work?
[2017-04-10 04:46:47] arbitrage101 : keep up the pump so they can dump