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[2017-04-09 06:41:20] mark121 : SPY options are an exception
[2017-04-09 06:41:36] level2 : you can save 30% of the money if you use futures
[2017-04-09 06:41:56] mark121 : uh as a general rule?
[2017-04-09 06:41:57] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-09 06:42:19] Apocalyptic : a whopping 30%
[2017-04-09 06:42:26] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-09 06:42:27] Apocalyptic : only available today
[2017-04-09 06:42:28] mark121 : hahah
[2017-04-09 06:43:07] level2 : how much do you buy of puts? each day you loss 100 usd of time decay
[2017-04-09 06:43:21] mark121 : WHAT
[2017-04-09 06:43:34] mark121 : yes u lose some time value but volatility can make up for it
[2017-04-09 06:43:52] mark121 : but the pt is
[2017-04-09 06:44:07] level2 : see vix this is low
[2017-04-09 06:44:10] mark121 : im willin to pay the timevalue to make the profit multiplier
[2017-04-09 06:44:17] mark121 : yes, but when mkts crash
[2017-04-09 06:44:19] Apocalyptic : level2: it depends on theta
[2017-04-09 06:44:57] Apocalyptic : why are you throwing abritrary numbers around ?
[2017-04-09 06:45:08] level2 : you have better odd to win shorting the futures that buy put
[2017-04-09 06:45:35] Apocalyptic : level2: it's not about "odds", it's about risk management
[2017-04-09 06:45:48] mark121 : so better odds, 30% loss reduction and no 100usd per day loss timevalue
[2017-04-09 06:46:00] mark121 : why are options even around anymore
[2017-04-09 06:46:12] level2 : do you know what day the SPY will fall?
[2017-04-09 06:46:33] mark121 : do i need to?
[2017-04-09 06:46:41] level2 : buy puts is like gift money to the street
[2017-04-09 06:47:16] mark121 : im perfectly happy to discuss but again, im asking u why
[2017-04-09 06:47:56] level2 : why options exist?
[2017-04-09 06:48:18] mark121 : lol i was being sarcastic -- no why am i gifting money to street
[2017-04-09 06:48:28] mark121 : aka the original statement u made
[2017-04-09 06:49:47] level2 : if you buy puts for long term this fall to 0
[2017-04-09 06:50:33] mark121 : ok so, i buy a put 3 months ahead of when i expect my move to occur...
[2017-04-09 06:50:46] mark121 : im not buying puts that expire a week after that
[2017-04-09 06:51:00] level2 : maybe you think that this time is diferent the data show this
[2017-04-09 06:51:30] mark121 : (i know the answers, i work in equities, im around these discussions weekly)
[2017-04-09 06:51:40] mark121 : im jus interested to hear ur reasoning
[2017-04-09 06:52:04] mark121 : and il throw this out too
[2017-04-09 06:53:37] mark121 : when right with options, the profit per $ is nutty
[2017-04-09 06:53:52] level2 : i work too in the markets ,so do you make money with the buy of puts?
[2017-04-09 06:54:13] plappa : does anyone know if segwit doens't happen but bu doesn't happen either than the blocks option wins in that scenario?
[2017-04-09 06:54:21] mark121 : what do you do
[2017-04-09 06:54:47] mark121 : (not in a negative way lol) just curious
[2017-04-09 06:54:55] mark121 : what country
[2017-04-09 06:55:00] mark121 : aswell
[2017-04-09 06:56:05] level2 : i look for asset that are cheap to buy and expe to short
[2017-04-09 06:59:17] mark121 : jus to b clear
[2017-04-09 06:59:50] mark121 : this is a specific ttrade
[2017-04-09 07:00:34] mark121 : daytrading id say its nearly impossible to say options are better
[2017-04-09 07:02:26] mark121 : but as i cant spend much more time on this atm - if im planning to sell with 80% of the time b4 expirayr remaining, that loss is meaningless
[2017-04-09 07:04:14] level2 : so you are very confident that the SPY will fall to buy puts ?
[2017-04-09 07:05:15] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-09 07:05:32] mark121 : not next wee
[2017-04-09 07:05:35] mark121 : June
[2017-04-09 07:05:47] level2 : why will fall the SPY?
[2017-04-09 07:05:48] Apocalyptic : two weeks (tm)
[2017-04-09 07:06:03] mark121 : why?
[2017-04-09 07:06:14] mark121 : thats a loaded question
[2017-04-09 07:06:55] mark121 : the real Q
[2017-04-09 07:07:29] mark121 : why wouldnt it when this bull market in human age is like 117
[2017-04-09 07:07:52] level2 : what do you see that is clear that will fall?
[2017-04-09 07:08:00] arbitrage101 : any finex investor here?
[2017-04-09 07:08:08] mark121 : debt ceiling is a big one
[2017-04-09 07:08:16] arbitrage101 : they offer free trading for investor?
[2017-04-09 07:09:23] level2 : maybe this time you are right and this fall but how many time do you buy puts ?
[2017-04-09 07:10:01] mark121 : that wil be my only material trade in options this year
[2017-04-09 07:10:10] mark121 : puts anyhow
[2017-04-09 07:10:39] mark121 : at this point calls as well
[2017-04-09 07:11:32] mark121 : i heavily subscribe to the sentiment that u only need 2 or 3 proper trades per year
[2017-04-09 07:11:44] level2 : i think that is is very low the odds to know when the SPY will fall
[2017-04-09 07:12:01] mark121 : if i didnt have insider information
[2017-04-09 07:12:09] mark121 : id be less confident
[2017-04-09 07:12:18] mark121 : and i say insider lightly
[2017-04-09 07:12:29] mark121 : but inside hte industry
[2017-04-09 07:13:21] level2 : so you have inside information that the SPY will fall ?
[2017-04-09 07:13:46] Apocalyptic : level2: you heard it first here
[2017-04-09 07:13:51] mark121 : haha
[2017-04-09 07:13:58] Apocalyptic : now you can't trade because it would be insider trading as well
[2017-04-09 07:14:03] Apocalyptic : no profits for you!
[2017-04-09 07:14:09] mark121 : if it wasnt legal insider information or illegal, i wudnt share it
[2017-04-09 07:14:18] mark121 : but this is tlaked about quite openly
[2017-04-09 07:14:25] level2 : i think that in the SPY dont is real the inside information
[2017-04-09 07:14:28] mark121 : and ive heard it in media even
[2017-04-09 07:14:43] Apocalyptic : level2: you're russian by any chance ?
[2017-04-09 07:15:06] mark121 : rather, if it was**
[2017-04-09 07:15:21] mark121 : otherwise id be liable duh
[2017-04-09 07:15:23] level2 : you can have inside information for an stock but for 500 ? for all the market?
[2017-04-09 07:15:42] mark121 : maybe i shudnt have used the word if englis is ur 2nd language
[2017-04-09 07:15:48] mark121 : my apologies
[2017-04-09 07:16:07] Apocalyptic : his phrasing gave it away
[2017-04-09 07:16:14] mark121 : ^^
[2017-04-09 07:16:58] level2 : you can not have inside information of the SPY
[2017-04-09 07:17:14] mark121 : ugh
[2017-04-09 07:18:06] mark121 : if im sharing in online chat with randoms, u can be sure that it would never be legally definable insider information
[2017-04-09 07:18:33] level2 : what is the source?some guy of GS?
[2017-04-09 07:18:43] level2 : that is not inside information
[2017-04-09 07:18:47] mark121 : Apocalyptic: heeeelp me lol
[2017-04-09 07:19:04] Apocalyptic : mark121: this is to entertaining for me to intervene
[2017-04-09 07:19:07] Apocalyptic : *too
[2017-04-09 07:19:12] mark121 : lol!
[2017-04-09 07:20:15] mark121 : level2: What i said before is, if i didnt work in the industry (if i wasnt inside the industry) i would be less sure of myself
[2017-04-09 07:21:02] mark121 : that im on good terms with the ceo of SPY .. hes related to the ceo of bitcoin
[2017-04-09 07:21:04] level2 : how many millions of puts do you buy?
[2017-04-09 07:21:24] mark121 : is secondary :P
[2017-04-09 07:21:56] mark121 : all i can tell u is what im doing
[2017-04-09 07:22:16] mark121 : outside of a vague inference
[2017-04-09 07:22:32] level2 : maybe you can sell this info to some fund
[2017-04-09 07:23:43] mark121 : let me finish by saying June is what i hear
[2017-04-09 07:23:55] mark121 : am I buying puts that expire in july? no
[2017-04-09 07:27:25] level2 : do you have info of CNY?
[2017-04-09 07:28:15] level2 : this will loss value?
[2017-04-09 07:31:05] mark121 : on the amex?
[2017-04-09 07:31:53] mark121 : seems to be in a bullish phase atm
[2017-04-09 07:32:19] mark121 : but i dont deal in forex
[2017-04-09 07:32:56] mark121 : so prob not best guy to ask
[2017-04-09 07:34:12] mark121 : lots of buying in the past month
[2017-04-09 07:36:11] mark121 : where u from?
[2017-04-09 07:38:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 940 @ 0.00880
[2017-04-09 07:39:06] level2 : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-07/stores-are-closing-at-a-record-pace-as-amazon-chews-up-retailers
[2017-04-09 07:40:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 300 @ 0.00876
[2017-04-09 07:43:52] Apocalyptic : level2: you know you can say that you don't want anyone to know you're from Russia, it's ok. Not answering questions is regarded as rude
[2017-04-09 07:44:17] level2 : i am from moon
[2017-04-09 07:44:53] level2 : why russia?
[2017-04-09 07:45:17] Apocalyptic : your way of phrasing
[2017-04-09 07:45:30] Apocalyptic : anyone who knows/speak russian can recognize it
[2017-04-09 07:45:47] Apocalyptic : or your native language is very close to it
[2017-04-09 07:45:56] level2 : no
[2017-04-09 07:46:49] Apocalyptic : sure, moon is more likely
[2017-04-09 07:49:08] mark121 : i like russians
[2017-04-09 07:49:33] Apocalyptic : mark121: they are smart people generally
[2017-04-09 07:49:35] mark121 : plus i can understand usually some
[2017-04-09 07:50:15] Apocalyptic : at least those I know
[2017-04-09 07:50:26] mark121 : heh ya they are pretty analytical by nature
[2017-04-09 07:51:06] level2 : yes are smart
[2017-04-09 07:51:08] mark121 : my background is yugoslavian
[2017-04-09 07:51:43] thomaskikansha : negative funding rate for days...yet price not going down
[2017-04-09 07:51:46] Apocalyptic : see, again
[2017-04-09 07:52:04] mark121 : i assumed hes form china
[2017-04-09 07:52:48] Apocalyptic : mark121: why ? does chinese have similar phrase structures ?
[2017-04-09 07:53:01] Apocalyptic : I don't know a single bit of chinese
[2017-04-09 07:53:05] mark121 : cus he ask about rem/usd
[2017-04-09 07:53:22] mark121 : ETN
[2017-04-09 07:53:25] Dnavid : Are whales pumping btc to 1220-1250? Or this time's different?
[2017-04-09 07:53:27] Apocalyptic : everybody here watches USD/CNY
[2017-04-09 07:54:12] level2 : i am not from china
[2017-04-09 07:54:33] mark121 : i dont
[2017-04-09 07:54:45] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-09 07:54:54] mark121 : but fair enuf, i just said i assumed
[2017-04-09 07:55:01] mark121 : i wudnt put $ on it :p
[2017-04-09 07:55:15] mark121 : ok so where are u from?
[2017-04-09 07:55:23] Dnavid : /price
[2017-04-09 07:55:25] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1184.50 (0.97%) Bitfinex : 1190.10 (1.20%) The Woodchipper : 1188.49 (1.21%) itBit : 1184.47 (0.92%) Kraken : 1183.83 (0.67%) GDAX : 1185.89 (0.53%) SLQ : 12 hours, 35 mins```
[2017-04-09 07:55:28] Apocalyptic : mark121: pre-PBOC it was assumed to be strongly correlated with BTC/USD
[2017-04-09 07:55:38] mark121 : silly
[2017-04-09 07:55:41] Apocalyptic : good old rapid used to post the new rate everyday
[2017-04-09 07:56:08] level2 : where is rapid?
[2017-04-09 07:56:56] mark121 : not to be a poohea but up until pboc roughly, btc was as easy to predict as anything i ever traded
[2017-04-09 07:57:00] Apocalyptic : healing his funding wounds
[2017-04-09 07:57:27] Apocalyptic : level2: don't worry we won't tell Putin you're here trading BTC
[2017-04-09 07:57:29] mark121 : and thus any extra info was totally unnecessary, TA told the entire picture
[2017-04-09 07:57:58] mark121 : level2: are u really going to not tell us
[2017-04-09 07:59:26] jetsetta : short ltc
[2017-04-09 07:59:37] mark121 : as im usually asked for investment advice from friends, fam and people i meeet i can tell u I very rarely feel so strongly about something to actually tell them where to put their money
[2017-04-09 08:00:04] mark121 : or my lips are sealed and i cannot say (work)
[2017-04-09 08:00:17] mark121 : but i told every1 to buy btc at 600
[2017-04-09 08:00:32] level2 : anyone buy btc ?
[2017-04-09 08:01:18] mark121 : only a few , but every single one wished they did come december lol
[2017-04-09 08:01:46] mark121 : and now they wud likely buy anything if i told them to lol
[2017-04-09 08:05:10] mark121 : level2: if u arent russian or chinese you are from a former USSR country or a country bordering china
[2017-04-09 08:06:34] mark121 : my eth long is holding well
[2017-04-09 08:08:29] Apocalyptic : mark121: I'm more interested in why he doesn't want to say, level2 is just a nick after all
[2017-04-09 08:09:21] KingTuna : This market a little dull, not much action for a whole 18 hours
[2017-04-09 08:09:59] KingTuna : I did put in a cheeky little LTC short, but that's about it
[2017-04-09 08:10:38] mark121 : u can say that again
[2017-04-09 08:10:44] mark121 : Apocalyptic: same
[2017-04-09 08:12:13] mark121 : closed eth
[2017-04-09 08:12:59] mark121 : CLAM is the new btc
[2017-04-09 08:25:02] mark121 : btc raly?
[2017-04-09 08:25:35] mark121 : or dive , u decide.
[2017-04-09 08:26:08] mark121 : seems to be at local resistance
[2017-04-09 08:29:46] Dnavid : mark121: short margin almost highest since etf anyhow
[2017-04-09 08:30:10] Apocalyptic : Dnavid: on finex ?
[2017-04-09 08:31:20] Apocalyptic : mark121: you're familiar with Shkreli ?
[2017-04-09 08:32:29] mark121 : ppl seem to be buying on summation chart
[2017-04-09 08:32:34] mark121 : what bout him
[2017-04-09 08:33:11] Apocalyptic : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-07/martin-shkreli-s-former-lawyer-threatens-to-blow-the-whistle
[2017-04-09 08:33:16] Apocalyptic : the plot thickens
[2017-04-09 08:33:38] Apocalyptic : "Prosecutors said he used $11 million of Retrophin Inc.’s assets to pay off investors who lost money in hedge funds he ran" best part
[2017-04-09 08:40:28] rapidtrades : 369/576 (64.06%) blocks signaling in the past 24 hours!
[2017-04-09 08:40:35] rapidtrades : LTC segdead
[2017-04-09 08:41:24] mark121 : ya the whole thing is pretty interestin
[2017-04-09 08:42:23] mark121 : hes no worse than others just brough t to much attention to himself
[2017-04-09 08:44:26] mark121 : which means hes still awful lol
[2017-04-09 08:45:06] mark121 : however thats the way shit works on wall st
[2017-04-09 08:45:49] mark121 : least he didnt start with big bucks
[2017-04-09 08:46:58] mark121 : hes prob screwed tho , especially if the court allows the ex lawyers testiomy
[2017-04-09 08:47:01] Dnavid : Apocalyptic: everywhere
[2017-04-09 08:47:02] mark121 : testimony*
[2017-04-09 08:48:10] arbitrage101 : according to my super duper TA analysis, ltc will hit 50 soon
[2017-04-09 08:49:07] rapidtrades : arb ur a POS
[2017-04-09 08:49:12] Apocalyptic : arbitrage101: such moon you're predicting
[2017-04-09 08:49:31] Apocalyptic : mark121: no doubt
[2017-04-09 08:49:45] arbitrage101 : Apocalyptic: 50 is not moon
[2017-04-09 08:49:58] arbitrage101 : just all time high
[2017-04-09 08:50:17] arbitrage101 : which is likely seeing many lame coins make all time high
[2017-04-09 08:50:34] arbitrage101 : moon is when ltc hit 500
[2017-04-09 08:50:39] rapidtrades : solid analysis
[2017-04-09 08:50:46] arbitrage101 : of course
[2017-04-09 08:51:57] mark121 : LTC looks like its contemplating suicide
[2017-04-09 08:52:26] mark121 : its even started only wearing black and has alot of mascara on
[2017-04-09 08:52:54] mark121 : NIN - Hurt on repeat.
[2017-04-09 08:54:32] mark121 : This does not constitute trading advice.
[2017-04-09 08:56:41] Kalman : /joke
[2017-04-09 08:56:42] trollbot : ``` My girlfriend yelled at me today saying, "You weren't even listening just now, were you?!" I thought, "Man, what a weird way to start a conversation." ```
[2017-04-09 08:56:59] rapidtrades : LTC is full of hot alt money right now, they will all bail soon
[2017-04-09 08:57:08] rapidtrades : these alt pumps don't last very long
[2017-04-09 08:57:57] rapidtrades : most prolly got in above 8, after that huge 1 day jump...cos they're slow and dumb as f*ck
[2017-04-09 08:58:07] mark121 : it cud moon tho
[2017-04-09 08:58:10] rapidtrades : so that seems like min target
[2017-04-09 08:58:13] mark121 : its at a turning ot
[2017-04-09 08:58:13] mark121 : pt
[2017-04-09 08:58:18] rapidtrades : holding out for 6 tho
[2017-04-09 08:58:40] Apocalyptic : arbitrage101: +400% is moon to me
[2017-04-09 08:59:43] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/492Xw754/
[2017-04-09 08:59:56] micmix : arbitrage101: 25bln LTC marketcap? and why not, snapchat IPO was in that range, and litecoin is definitely more popular and more useful, right?
[2017-04-09 09:00:06] mark121 : lolol
[2017-04-09 09:00:18] Apocalyptic : micmix: nice one
[2017-04-09 09:00:23] mark121 : i just dont trust it
[2017-04-09 09:00:34] mark121 : seems to be all pump and no substance
[2017-04-09 09:00:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 40 @ 0.00870
[2017-04-09 09:00:54] mark121 : but it made me a pretty penny fro, .75
[2017-04-09 09:00:59] mark121 : cant complain
[2017-04-09 09:01:13] rapidtrades : they realize segwit wont pass so now they're trying to push USAF or whatever that shit's called
[2017-04-09 09:01:15] mark121 : 0075*
[2017-04-09 09:01:21] rapidtrades : basically forcing segwit with 51%
[2017-04-09 09:01:45] rapidtrades : this could push f2pool out cos they're already on the fence
[2017-04-09 09:02:19] rapidtrades : don't think CL will do it but pumpers are getting antsy and want segwit NOW
[2017-04-09 09:02:41] rapidtrades : so they can cash in and move to another pump
[2017-04-09 09:04:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 6 @ 0.00869
[2017-04-09 09:05:07] rapidtrades : micmix: where are u hedging ur bitcoin right now?
[2017-04-09 09:05:23] mark121 : michelle rodriguez is the most unattractive woman who apparently is sexy
[2017-04-09 09:05:58] mark121 : id still fuck her but i wudnt let her sit on my face
[2017-04-09 09:06:37] mark121 : butch+
[2017-04-09 09:08:07] mark121 : i digress.
[2017-04-09 09:08:33] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/64asih/ltc1btc_and_antpool_increasing_hashrate_to_block/
[2017-04-09 09:09:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00853
[2017-04-09 09:11:03] rapidtrades : its gonna lose $10 again
[2017-04-09 09:11:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 50 @ 0.00852
[2017-04-09 09:12:35] arbitrage101 : micmix: snapchat is just a simple photo and text app
[2017-04-09 09:12:54] arbitrage101 : ltc on the other hand, is less than 1/10 of btc
[2017-04-09 09:13:15] arbitrage101 : if btc can worth 1184, dont see why ltc cant worth 50
[2017-04-09 09:13:20] rapidtrades : another solid analysis arb101
[2017-04-09 09:14:00] arbitrage101 : thank you, rapid
[2017-04-09 09:14:14] rapidtrades : I'm surprised you can put on ur pants in the morning with your level of IQ
[2017-04-09 09:14:29] arbitrage101 : i am not wearing any pant now
[2017-04-09 09:14:52] rapidtrades : ofc not
[2017-04-09 09:16:07] Yuppie : arbitrage101: +1
[2017-04-09 09:18:17] Yuppie : Actually, LTC has 2.5min per block, BTC 10min so it should be 1/4th of BTC, right?
[2017-04-09 09:18:39] arbitrage101 : absuletely
[2017-04-09 09:19:01] Rado : Lol rapidtrades
[2017-04-09 09:20:00] rapidtrades : also market ignored this tweet by Jihan : We are preparing a UAHF to the market. We will have two kinds of Bitcoin if UASF is activated. Big block vs 1MB block. Let us trade.
[2017-04-09 09:20:23] rapidtrades : this fork shit aint over
[2017-04-09 09:21:39] arbitrage101 : can you translate it into plain engrish?
[2017-04-09 09:28:14] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-04-09 09:28:16] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 56.96 / 43.04 Daily : 51.62 / 48.38 Weekly : 45.28 / 54.73 Monthly : 50.71 / 49.29```
[2017-04-09 09:30:31] laisee : Winter fork is coming @arbitrage101
[2017-04-09 09:32:06] mark121 : oct1st
[2017-04-09 09:36:10] laisee : yup. Wildings will take over the Iron Throne.
[2017-04-09 09:40:51] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: Chinamen make BTC go BOOM
[2017-04-09 09:49:05] Dnavid : Come on I need some sense of purpose, I'm here to short BTC already
[2017-04-09 09:50:43] Yuppie : ZEC again
[2017-04-09 09:53:55] mark121 : imagine the squezze
[2017-04-09 09:54:36] mark121 : cant help but be contrarian
[2017-04-09 09:57:16] mark121 : at heart atleast
[2017-04-09 09:57:49] Ahhere : How is everyone this morning ?
[2017-04-09 09:57:58] rapidtrades : $10 about to break on LTC
[2017-04-09 09:58:21] Ahhere : Again? Ffs
[2017-04-09 09:58:44] rapidtrades : get ready for a ride holders
[2017-04-09 09:59:24] mark121 : imagine how fast btc wud fly if shorts are really as big as pre ETF
[2017-04-09 09:59:43] mark121 : if it went up i mean
[2017-04-09 10:00:33] arbitrage101 : oh baby
[2017-04-09 10:00:37] arbitrage101 : go zec go
[2017-04-09 10:00:40] arbitrage101 : to 1000
[2017-04-09 10:00:51] arbitrage101 : cuz zec >> snapchat ipo
[2017-04-09 10:02:22] Ahhere : Zec seems about as overvalued as Snapchat. I'm rapid trades on zec
[2017-04-09 10:02:59] mark121 : math osciillator says top mayb on zec
[2017-04-09 10:03:18] Ahhere : Flux capacitor confirms @mark121
[2017-04-09 10:03:46] Dnavid : mark121: tis what happened around Mar 25th
[2017-04-09 10:07:08] Yuppie : Alt money is going to have a try with ZEC again
[2017-04-09 10:13:16] holistico : pumpa dumpa escheme
[2017-04-09 10:13:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 200 @ 0.00002925
[2017-04-09 10:14:37] arbitrage101 : yes, pump zec 100 times
[2017-04-09 10:15:07] arbitrage101 : i will sell long before it goes up 100 times
[2017-04-09 10:15:14] arbitrage101 : sad
[2017-04-09 10:17:27] holistico : moar
[2017-04-09 10:18:26] Ahhere : I'm gonna launch an altcoin seems to be the quickest way to make 25milion
[2017-04-09 10:18:31] Ahhere : So many mugs
[2017-04-09 10:18:31] holistico : anyone buying on 0100101001010?
[2017-04-09 10:18:42] Apocalyptic : Ahhere: you get it
[2017-04-09 10:19:00] Apocalyptic : just don't forget to hire a chick to do youtube vids like Amanda
[2017-04-09 10:19:26] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-04-09 10:19:30] Ahhere : Apocalyptic: thxgai i brush up well I'll just get a wig and makeup keep the budget down
[2017-04-09 10:19:33] arbitrage101 : pretty suprising dash is still this high
[2017-04-09 10:19:54] arbitrage101 : but it is traded on a few big exchanges
[2017-04-09 10:20:03] arbitrage101 : got to worth something
[2017-04-09 10:20:15] Ahhere : It's in the just ran off the cliff but not dropped yet will e coyote phase
[2017-04-09 10:20:19] arbitrage101 : dash > snap ipo
[2017-04-09 10:21:16] Ahhere : Snapchat is > Instagram > Facebook but dash < dogshit ?
[2017-04-09 10:21:21] Derreck : $19 quarterly discount? what the hell?
[2017-04-09 10:21:32] arbitrage101 : Amanda > zuckerberg
[2017-04-09 10:22:01] Ahhere : What about zucks bird? @arbitrage101
[2017-04-09 10:22:34] arbitrage101 : what bird
[2017-04-09 10:22:56] Ahhere : His missus < or > Amanda...
[2017-04-09 10:23:02] holistico : arbirdtrage
[2017-04-09 10:23:59] Ahhere : Yeah i think my coin will be pusssy related cryptonerds are suckers for pusssy
[2017-04-09 10:24:04] uej : Is not possible to long and short same pair at the same time?
[2017-04-09 10:24:15] Ahhere : Proncoin
[2017-04-09 10:24:31] arbitrage101 : uej: nope
[2017-04-09 10:24:36] arbitrage101 : use another account
[2017-04-09 10:24:53] arbitrage101 : buy why would you long and short the same time
[2017-04-09 10:25:05] arbitrage101 : trying to game the adl system?
[2017-04-09 10:25:33] mark121 : lots of big accounts will take both
[2017-04-09 10:25:38] mark121 : positions
[2017-04-09 10:25:57] uej : arbitrage101: to minimize the risk of bigger losses and then sell one of the post depending with direction its going?
[2017-04-09 10:26:19] arbitrage101 : you "close" or partially close your position
[2017-04-09 10:26:25] arbitrage101 : not long and short the same time
[2017-04-09 10:26:36] holistico : ProfitCoin @Ahhere
[2017-04-09 10:26:55] holistico : a.k.a ponzicoin
[2017-04-09 10:27:12] uej : arbitrage101:what do you mean by "close" ?
[2017-04-09 10:27:26] arbitrage101 : you open 10 contracts
[2017-04-09 10:27:40] arbitrage101 : if you want to reduce risk, you close maybe 1-9
[2017-04-09 10:27:53] arbitrage101 : or 10 to close your entire position
[2017-04-09 10:27:56] mark121 : no
[2017-04-09 10:28:04] mark121 : its common arbitrage101
[2017-04-09 10:28:27] arbitrage101 : he said same pair
[2017-04-09 10:28:32] mark121 : ya
[2017-04-09 10:28:38] mark121 : diff accounts if u must
[2017-04-09 10:30:40] holistico : all the lits on
[2017-04-09 10:30:49] holistico : max leverage
[2017-04-09 10:37:07] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-04-09 10:37:10] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 28.28 / 71.72 Daily : 50.26 / 49.74 Weekly : 45.18 / 54.82 Monthly : 50.70 / 49.30```
[2017-04-09 10:37:33] holistico : /?
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[2017-04-09 10:37:58] holistico : /wall
[2017-04-09 10:37:58] trollbot : ``` /wall is a paid command now! Pay 100 BTC to Farzad aka GOD.```
[2017-04-09 10:38:11] holistico : lol
[2017-04-09 10:39:59] EastIndiaCompany : Is BitMex going to add more prediction markets? I would like to see prediction markets for coin prices at certain dates.
[2017-04-09 10:40:39] laisee : you mean futures?
[2017-04-09 10:40:45] Apocalyptic : ^
[2017-04-09 10:41:00] EastIndiaCompany : No, not necessarily futures, those are still too risky
[2017-04-09 10:41:06] mark121 : no he means like
[2017-04-09 10:41:14] mark121 : what u see on binary option sites
[2017-04-09 10:41:20] EastIndiaCompany : Yes exactly
[2017-04-09 10:41:51] laisee : futures are risky but binary options are not?
[2017-04-09 10:42:04] EastIndiaCompany : Because downside risk is limited
[2017-04-09 10:42:36] EastIndiaCompany : and fewer liquidity concerns
[2017-04-09 10:43:00] Apocalyptic : the options will be unlikely more liquid than the underlying future
[2017-04-09 10:43:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 4 @ 0.00876
[2017-04-09 10:43:26] mark121 : liquidty isnt really a thing
[2017-04-09 10:43:30] mark121 : in what hes refering to
[2017-04-09 10:43:57] Apocalyptic : "fewer liquidity concerns" so what is ?
[2017-04-09 10:44:00] mark121 : its like playin against the house
[2017-04-09 10:44:05] EastIndiaCompany : The thing is, if you are the writer on an option, you could easily lose more than your entire account
[2017-04-09 10:44:40] EastIndiaCompany : liquidity concern in futures market is that you wouldnt be able to close your position and that may end up margin calling you
[2017-04-09 10:44:47] laisee : options are far more risky and illiquid than futures in most markets.
[2017-04-09 10:44:54] EastIndiaCompany : in options, the downside risk is limited, so no MC
[2017-04-09 10:45:08] EastIndiaCompany : binary options*
[2017-04-09 10:45:25] Apocalyptic : mark121: feels like our convo earlier
[2017-04-09 10:45:28] EastIndiaCompany : I think we're talking about different products
[2017-04-09 10:45:50] mark121 : Apocalyptic: lol ya
[2017-04-09 10:45:50] EastIndiaCompany : I not talking about option contracts like in the traditional markets
[2017-04-09 10:46:36] EastIndiaCompany : I'm talking about markets like B_SEGWITZ17
[2017-04-09 10:47:31] mark121 : like +/- $xx.xx expires April 10th
[2017-04-09 10:48:03] mark121 : over/under
[2017-04-09 10:48:06] EastIndiaCompany : yeah
[2017-04-09 11:07:06] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Hj2TXghI/
[2017-04-09 11:08:10] mark121 : xrp rally mayb
[2017-04-09 11:08:35] mark121 : sure is being accumukated
[2017-04-09 11:10:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 18591 @ 1158.7
[2017-04-09 11:11:42] mark121 : price down but accum up
[2017-04-09 11:18:16] Yuppie : Gotta ZEC this out...took out 0.06
[2017-04-09 11:19:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 6994 @ 0.00002861
[2017-04-09 11:21:59] arbitrage101 : TA said zec going to 5000
[2017-04-09 11:23:02] Yuppie : ZEC order book here pretty uneven...probably some icebergs on the bid
[2017-04-09 11:31:42] Dnavid : mark121: price down but accum up. This is Bullish?
[2017-04-09 11:31:56] mark121 : no instantly
[2017-04-09 11:31:59] mark121 : not*
[2017-04-09 11:32:12] mark121 : but yes it could mean an impending rally
[2017-04-09 11:32:22] mark121 : at the least it means people want it
[2017-04-09 11:32:49] mark121 : also sign that prices were manipulated downward
[2017-04-09 11:33:55] mark121 : strange to see price moving down when appaently buys are outnumbering sells in otherwords
[2017-04-09 11:42:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 64622 @ 1156.6 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-09 11:43:21] mark121 : go zec
[2017-04-09 11:44:40] 123abc : Wow
[2017-04-09 11:44:43] Dnavid : mark121: short selling as explanation? idk
[2017-04-09 11:47:10] Ahhere : buying zec will get you raped quicker than walking through mubai naked at 4am.
[2017-04-09 11:49:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 320 @ 1179.6
[2017-04-09 11:49:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 751 @ 1179.6
[2017-04-09 11:50:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 1179.5
[2017-04-09 11:51:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECM17`: sell 4 @ 0.060673
[2017-04-09 11:52:14] Dnavid : maybe whales think btc bloated enough but still trying to find one or two last bagholders
[2017-04-09 11:57:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 400 @ 0.00839
[2017-04-09 11:57:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.00838
[2017-04-09 11:57:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1614 @ 0.00836
[2017-04-09 12:02:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2052 @ 1177.1
[2017-04-09 12:08:30] lorestr : /jpke
[2017-04-09 12:08:36] lorestr : /joke
[2017-04-09 12:08:37] trollbot : ``` Planning on wearing a slutty costume for Halloween? Dress up as my professors, they barely cover anything important.```
[2017-04-09 12:09:33] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-04-09 12:09:35] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 47.14 / 52.86 Daily : 50.43 / 49.57 Weekly : 45.09 / 54.91 Monthly : 50.71 / 49.29```
[2017-04-09 12:13:27] KingTuna : LTC looking sick
[2017-04-09 12:13:49] mark121 : i told u it was contemplating suicide
[2017-04-09 12:13:55] mark121 : :p
[2017-04-09 12:14:24] 123abc : 300 BTC holding it up from making a new low on poloniex
[2017-04-09 12:14:54] frog : some fake news
[2017-04-09 12:15:24] mark121 : lol i think ppl dont kno 1. walls 2. that MM sell and buy from themselves
[2017-04-09 12:15:53] lorestr : as per binary people are skeptical about segwit, strange...
[2017-04-09 12:16:06] frog : jihan is taking a pounding atm
[2017-04-09 12:19:35] KingTuna : Im waiting for ETH to drop sub 0.008 before I even consider playing quick trade
[2017-04-09 12:19:41] KingTuna : oops LTC* I mean
[2017-04-09 12:20:19] lorestr : KingTuna: will you play 5000 or 25000 contracts?
[2017-04-09 12:23:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 13 @ 0.055412
[2017-04-09 12:23:42] KingTuna : lorestr: Depends how many I can get before the bounce
[2017-04-09 12:24:08] lorestr : KingTuna: all
[2017-04-09 12:24:53] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/6LA20pww/
[2017-04-09 12:25:10] mark121 : right on time
[2017-04-09 12:26:45] KingTuna : mark121: right on time
[2017-04-09 12:26:57] KingTuna : Up and down like a dick on a honeymoon
[2017-04-09 12:27:29] KingTuna : Tempted to go long on BTC now, but ready to go sleep.
[2017-04-09 12:27:31] lorestr : che che...honeymomey
[2017-04-09 12:28:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 10 @ 0.00843
[2017-04-09 12:30:24] frog : KingTuna: Do you think LTC will get to $7
[2017-04-09 12:30:53] Madofff : Btc short
[2017-04-09 12:31:08] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-09 12:31:40] bingbongfly : BTC going crazy fomo
[2017-04-09 12:31:49] mark121 : this cud be it
[2017-04-09 12:31:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15356 @ 1186.9
[2017-04-09 12:32:27] KingTuna : mark121: Still waiting for 1215?
[2017-04-09 12:32:29] frog : kooks likr it
[2017-04-09 12:32:53] KingTuna : frog: Depends on segwit .. It will eventually
[2017-04-09 12:32:57] mark121 : no im long
[2017-04-09 12:33:14] mark121 : long from 1178
[2017-04-09 12:33:38] KingTuna : good work
[2017-04-09 12:33:58] thomaskikansha : can this breaks up?
[2017-04-09 12:34:04] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-09 12:34:33] Shoba : depends how the pumpers, the dumpers, and the manipulators are all feeling today
[2017-04-09 12:35:06] mark121 : thats not fully how it works
[2017-04-09 12:35:36] KingTuna : /sentiment
[2017-04-09 12:35:39] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.37 / 69.63 Daily : 47.42 / 52.58 Weekly : 44.89 / 55.11 Monthly : 50.67 / 49.33```
[2017-04-09 12:35:42] Shoba : it's tough to say, natural market movements can sometimes look like manipulation, but there's a lot of actual manipulation as well
[2017-04-09 12:36:13] mark121 : but it still follows the chart
[2017-04-09 12:36:16] Shoba : market randomly pumping up a couple thousand bitcoins certainly looks like manipulation, but who knows for sure
[2017-04-09 12:36:24] mark121 : may make it harder to nail down the actual patterm
[2017-04-09 12:36:26] Shoba : ah, didn't know we were talking about astrology
[2017-04-09 12:36:39] mark121 : we arent
[2017-04-09 12:36:50] KingTuna : Perhaps manipulators accumulating for a short of a lifetime ;)
[2017-04-09 12:37:05] Shoba : that's what i've thought for like the last month but then it kept going up
[2017-04-09 12:37:40] mark121 : if u subscribe to the TA isnt real theory
[2017-04-09 12:37:48] rapidtrades : altcoins dying ppl noone is manipulating
[2017-04-09 12:37:53] rapidtrades : look at eth
[2017-04-09 12:38:08] KingTuna : Well it has gone up from 870 to 1200 in little time, it's eventually due for a correction. Plus this HF FUD still hasn't been buried
[2017-04-09 12:38:43] mark121 : if u look at accum/dist
[2017-04-09 12:39:18] mark121 : the dips we saw previously were quite larg
[2017-04-09 12:39:40] mark121 : i duno if its in need of a correction, we may be into a new impulse wave
[2017-04-09 12:40:25] mark121 : the fact that we wnet from 1350 to sub 9
[2017-04-09 12:40:31] Shoba : a close reading of the charts shows that the price will go up or drop down or stay where it is
[2017-04-09 12:40:33] rapidtrades : litecoin now facing double headwinds
[2017-04-09 12:40:50] rapidtrades : the dying altcoin bubbe and bitcoin retracing
[2017-04-09 12:40:56] mark121 : Shoba: thats embarrassing
[2017-04-09 12:41:12] mark121 : u jus guess when to buy ?
[2017-04-09 12:41:57] mark121 : or am I have coincidense after coincidense after coincidense .. x 50,000 for years?
[2017-04-09 12:42:10] mark121 : jeeze im a lucky guy
[2017-04-09 12:42:32] frog : staill a 421btc wall at 1198 on stamp
[2017-04-09 12:43:19] Shoba : i am disappointed in humanity
[2017-04-09 12:43:29] mark121 : u shud be disappointed in urself
[2017-04-09 12:44:02] KingTuna : mark121: 50,000 what? Profits or contracts
[2017-04-09 12:44:23] rapidtrades : the fork odds are drastically under-priced
[2017-04-09 12:44:27] rapidtrades : /fork
[2017-04-09 12:44:27] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 1076.80 (3.16%) Bitfinex BCU : 110.00 (-0.01%) SLQ : 21 hours, 16 mins```
[2017-04-09 12:44:46] Shoba : mark121: out of curiosity, are you autistic? need data to evaluate my intuitions and biases
[2017-04-09 12:44:55] mark121 : there u go
[2017-04-09 12:45:02] mark121 : wtf u think makes up a chart
[2017-04-09 12:45:58] Shoba : well that does increase the relative probability, it was more to do with your response to the normal flow of a conversation
[2017-04-09 12:46:05] mark121 : not quite
[2017-04-09 12:46:21] mark121 : your ignorance is a full stop for any normal conversation
[2017-04-09 12:46:30] mark121 : takes a day
[2017-04-09 12:46:33] mark121 : learn
[2017-04-09 12:46:38] mark121 : use your brain if u have one
[2017-04-09 12:46:42] mark121 : take*
[2017-04-09 12:46:49] Shoba : you base my ignorance on your inability to understand my jokes
[2017-04-09 12:46:50] mark121 : like thats what amazes me...
[2017-04-09 12:47:16] mark121 : u had ample opportunities to make a joke lol
[2017-04-09 12:48:02] mark121 : do u believe that obama and hilary clinton, and other world leaders are giant shape-shifting reptiles?
[2017-04-09 12:48:51] Shoba : i never considered the "giant" part before, i'll have to think about it
[2017-04-09 12:48:57] mark121 : its a real theory - point being its as crazy as calling TA fake
[2017-04-09 12:49:14] rapidtrades : the only joke around here is your f*cking convo
[2017-04-09 12:49:20] mark121 : ty
[2017-04-09 12:49:37] mark121 : once in a while we totally agree
[2017-04-09 12:49:54] lorestr : rapidtrades: which instrument to buy?
[2017-04-09 12:49:54] mark121 : Shoba: apparently they are 7 to 11 ft tall
[2017-04-09 12:49:57] rapidtrades : 2004 was long time ago God we need another tsunami
[2017-04-09 12:50:46] rapidtrades : to thin out the herd a bit