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[2017-04-08 21:20:43] rapidtrades : thta's when f2pool will bail and u will lose 2/3
[2017-04-08 21:20:48] rapidtrades : frog: no
[2017-04-08 21:21:51] aethlios : frog: he is short from 4.35 and won't us bulls to sell to reduce his loss. already prays for a loan from jew bankers.
[2017-04-08 21:22:37] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: is swap funding not raping you too much these days ?
[2017-04-08 21:22:51] aethlios : soon rapid homeless with a sign: LOST ALL IN LTC SHORT.
[2017-04-08 21:23:41] rapidtrades : no i have a stop out level
[2017-04-08 21:23:48] rapidtrades : i will never be homeless
[2017-04-08 21:23:52] rapidtrades : AGAIN
[2017-04-08 21:24:33] vgck : You're short from 4 and you haven't hit your stop yet? What's your stop $13?
[2017-04-08 21:24:42] vgck : Do you have a stop for you btc short too?
[2017-04-08 21:24:46] aethlios : rapidtrades: you can become multi home owner and rent to others if stop shorting ltc and come with our side.
[2017-04-08 21:25:04] rapidtrades : vgck: no
[2017-04-08 21:26:34] rapidtrades : i have an equity stop for both...if it goes below X I will stop trading for 6 months
[2017-04-08 21:26:43] rapidtrades : cos they're obviously correlated
[2017-04-08 21:27:58] aethlios : rapidtrades: do you have a full time job? or trading for a living?
[2017-04-08 21:28:17] rapidtrades : u know the answer to that bish
[2017-04-08 21:31:08] vgck : rapidtrades: Makes sense, but I still don't understand why you didn't cut your loses. First BTC and now LTC?? At least could've you have opened a long next to your shorts so you could at least profit while waiting for your short targets to get hit?
[2017-04-08 21:31:51] frog : rapidtrades: do you know if there is a reason that miners are not using asicboost already, the overt version not jihan covert one?
[2017-04-08 21:32:20] rapidtrades : public outrage maybe? mining empty blocks is bad PR
[2017-04-08 21:32:45] rapidtrades : vgck: as I said before the LTC short was a mistake...but its too high anyway
[2017-04-08 21:32:54] rapidtrades : so no point in closing nwo
[2017-04-08 21:33:37] rapidtrades : i'll just wait until the shit comes back down to earth, like all altcoins before it
[2017-04-08 21:34:34] frog : its weird asicboost it's supposed to improve mining efficiency by up to 50%
[2017-04-08 21:34:53] aethlios : vgck: when ltc 20 he won't close short because 20 is even higher then 10.
[2017-04-08 21:35:49] aethlios : rapidtrades: no altcoin came down. eth almost at high, dash from 2.5 (like ltc 4,00) is now 65, same monero etc.
[2017-04-08 21:36:29] vgck : aethlios: I mean, as long as he has the margin to support it, why not? He's right that both LTC and BTC are overvalued and this way he's not realizing any loss until he closes.
[2017-04-08 21:36:57] rapidtrades : frog: isn't it 25%?
[2017-04-08 21:37:04] vgck : Everyone called him crazy at 1300, "never see sub 1000 again" but we just saw 800s a couple weeks ago
[2017-04-08 21:37:23] vgck : There's a good chance he'll close both in profit
[2017-04-08 21:37:37] rapidtrades : yeah that bounce right before 880 was clearly bullshit
[2017-04-08 21:37:40] frog : rapidtrades: it seems to allow 25% energy effiency as well
[2017-04-08 21:37:49] rapidtrades : we will revisit that number again for sure
[2017-04-08 21:38:18] rapidtrades : could take weeks or month but that's a target, not support
[2017-04-08 21:38:33] frog : jihan has patent for covert asicboost but his only invention was method to keep it secret
[2017-04-08 21:38:53] rapidtrades : im more worried about my LTC short then BTC, cos they can pump that on margin in the west while china is down
[2017-04-08 21:39:06] aethlios : rapidtrades: better close ltc now, and go then to church and pray that you didn't keep it up to 25.
[2017-04-08 21:39:16] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2017-04-08 21:40:09] aethlios : i don't feel comfortable knowing that part of my profits is your loss.
[2017-04-08 21:40:55] aethlios : you try hard anyway, too bad to lose that easy. should had bought at 4,00.
[2017-04-08 21:41:24] rapidtrades : i don't really try hard , im very lazy
[2017-04-08 21:41:56] frog : aethlios: LTC has been sold quite heavily but price has as only dropped a small amount
[2017-04-08 21:42:05] rapidtrades : im right on both BTC and LTC but there is a chance i will close if they keep going up
[2017-04-08 21:42:12] rapidtrades : cos i set my equity stop
[2017-04-08 21:42:16] shiroe : rapid is just trolling you. he short ltc at 4? didn't close at 5 at leverage? lol
[2017-04-08 21:43:40] rapidtrades : there's no reason for LTC to pump on segwit like its some magic solution
[2017-04-08 21:43:53] rapidtrades : its all hot money from idiots longing BTC and dash before
[2017-04-08 21:44:04] rapidtrades : they don't have a network problem
[2017-04-08 21:44:13] rapidtrades : cos noone uses that dead coin
[2017-04-08 21:44:17] shiroe : chart says pump to 25, half of ATH.
[2017-04-08 21:44:28] shiroe : could be in 3 months time.
[2017-04-08 21:44:42] frog : rapidtrades: no it doesn't make sense
[2017-04-08 21:45:16] shiroe : a single news can pump a coin, except factom as it is highly manipulated.
[2017-04-08 21:45:25] frog : but not sure that being right is profitab;e
[2017-04-08 21:47:16] frog : volume for LTC has increased but possible just transfers to exchanges to gamble
[2017-04-08 21:51:39] aethlios : rapidtrades: you don't know about SW if you think is a block size solution.
[2017-04-08 21:51:51] shiroe : volume on ltc is increasing, we might hit 12 again.
[2017-04-08 21:51:59] rapidtrades : that's all there is yeah
[2017-04-08 21:52:07] rapidtrades : so only useful for bitcoin rn
[2017-04-08 21:52:28] rapidtrades : all of the other shit being brought up is fairy crypto dust
[2017-04-08 21:52:43] rapidtrades : could they be useful? maybe...is there market demand for it? NO
[2017-04-08 21:53:08] rapidtrades : its like ppl bringing up money transfers for bitcoin
[2017-04-08 22:02:34] sleger : how else am I going to send 10k to that nigerian prince who needs it within 3 hours but will return me 1m$ on monday ???
[2017-04-08 22:02:52] sleger : there is need, there is demand (from nigerian princes and others)
[2017-04-08 22:03:09] frog : FYI WellsFargo haven't been served with the TRO yet but have asked the court for chance to explain why it should not be granted
[2017-04-08 22:05:13] frog : WellsFargo are still processing inwards payments for Finex [according to Finex]
[2017-04-08 22:07:56] Powerofgod : How much can I deposit to my account to trading
[2017-04-08 22:08:08] sleger : 123btc
[2017-04-08 22:09:21] Powerofgod : Is that the minimum
[2017-04-08 22:09:36] Apocalyptic : Powerofgod: "The minimum deposit amount is 0.0001 XBT (10000 Satoshi)"
[2017-04-08 22:09:54] Apocalyptic : it's the first thing written below the address on the deposit page
[2017-04-08 22:10:28] Powerofgod : Ok
[2017-04-08 22:11:21] sleger : but you can deposit 123btc if you wish
[2017-04-08 22:12:58] Powerofgod : Thanks,please I also want to ask the leverage value does show or can't it be adjust
[2017-04-08 22:14:04] sleger : there is a slider on the left you can adjust it
[2017-04-08 22:16:58] ronensinger : Tasty, tasty
[2017-04-08 22:17:13] ronensinger : This chop is lovely
[2017-04-08 22:17:52] Apocalyptic : hey @ronensinger, did that tick size change helped your bot ?
[2017-04-08 22:17:53] shiroe : volume is too low, less than 10k. Not a good time to trade / risk position -_-
[2017-04-08 22:23:10] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Yeah
[2017-04-08 22:24:40] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: damn, I suspected otherwise
[2017-04-08 22:31:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 6 @ 0.002315
[2017-04-08 22:31:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 349 @ 0.002315
[2017-04-08 22:39:00] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Can't stump the bot
[2017-04-08 22:39:21] ronensinger : Trying work my wawy back up to the leaderboard
[2017-04-08 22:53:20] rapidtrades : Finex is so full of shit
[2017-04-08 22:53:35] rapidtrades : I'd take Wells Fargo over their side of the story anyway
[2017-04-08 22:53:53] rapidtrades : they have to have good reason to stop their withdrawals
[2017-04-08 22:54:13] rapidtrades : maybe they caught some of their CEOs laundering money or smth
[2017-04-08 22:54:30] rapidtrades : cos they keep pooling their money together in there with customers
[2017-04-08 22:55:20] rapidtrades : we only had to wait 8 months for another major f*ck up from finex...all those equity hodlers must be feeling really good about their investment now
[2017-04-08 22:58:04] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/649ipp/bitcoin_traders_worried_as_bitfinex_wire/
[2017-04-08 22:58:45] frog : WF are the correspondent bank [for wire trasnfers] for the local Taiwan banks, not BFX's bank. WF's clients in this case are the local taiwanese banks. BFX have KYC for customers who transfer fiat and the Taiwanese banks are happy with this. Be interesting to see what WF's reason is.
[2017-04-08 23:00:09] rapidtrades : https://twitter.com/ButtCoin/status/850404927381938176
[2017-04-08 23:00:45] rapidtrades : finex are crooks, we've known that for a while now
[2017-04-08 23:01:08] rapidtrades : only crooks would engage in a scheme like they did 8 months ago and trade on their own exchange
[2017-04-08 23:01:19] rapidtrades : then go on reddit and proclaim 'success'
[2017-04-08 23:01:30] rapidtrades : hope they g to jail, all of them
[2017-04-08 23:02:46] ParkerPerk : DIE BITCOIN DIE
[2017-04-08 23:05:01] Shoba : can't trade **** on here without market buying
[2017-04-08 23:06:14] 123abc : what u mean
[2017-04-08 23:06:26] 123abc : just wait for a dump before buying
[2017-04-08 23:08:16] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/63y5uj/daily_discussion_friday_april_07_2017/dfynta2/
[2017-04-08 23:15:18] rapidtrades : that large daily bar 1110-1180 was right after WF blocked their withdrawals
[2017-04-08 23:15:32] rapidtrades : so again insider trading before announcing it to everyone
[2017-04-08 23:15:50] rapidtrades : their CEO prolly converted their shit to BTC and got the f*Ck out
[2017-04-08 23:16:27] frog : rapidtrades: people are still making withdrawals from BFX
[2017-04-08 23:17:02] rapidtrades : well like they said in their own lawsuit, this could be fatal
[2017-04-08 23:18:02] rapidtrades : LTC segwit 383/576 (66.49%) blocks signaling in the past 24 hours!
[2017-04-08 23:18:15] rapidtrades : not looking too hot for that magic solution huh
[2017-04-08 23:18:32] rapidtrades : looks like some pool pulled out
[2017-04-08 23:19:15] frog : not fatal they need grounds for TRO if they say it annoyed us the application wouldn't get heard
[2017-04-08 23:20:39] rapidtrades : its hilarious how when it comes to their bottom line a lawsuit is the first option
[2017-04-08 23:20:56] rapidtrades : not changing the bank or mediation
[2017-04-08 23:21:25] rapidtrades : they should be cut off cos they're f*cking cancer
[2017-04-08 23:21:51] frog : rapidtrades: they tried talked to WF but WF would not tell them anything
[2017-04-08 23:22:20] rapidtrades : banks don't just freeze funds without reason, after processing them for years
[2017-04-08 23:22:43] frog : funds aren't frozen
[2017-04-08 23:22:51] rapidtrades : frog plz
[2017-04-08 23:23:09] rapidtrades : can ppl withdraw? NO
[2017-04-08 23:23:11] rapidtrades : then shut up
[2017-04-08 23:23:19] frog : yes they can
[2017-04-08 23:23:22] rapidtrades : fake finex lies
[2017-04-08 23:23:23] rapidtrades : LIES
[2017-04-08 23:23:28] rapidtrades : all the f*cking time
[2017-04-08 23:24:01] frog : you are making stuff up
[2017-04-08 23:24:46] rapidtrades : am I? guess its a coincidence that bad things keep happening at this exchange
[2017-04-08 23:24:53] rapidtrades : first a hack now this
[2017-04-08 23:25:18] shillosopher : rapidtrades: finex was never hacked?
[2017-04-08 23:25:29] rapidtrades : well in any case ppl were warned
[2017-04-08 23:25:42] rapidtrades : if u have money over there u deserve to lose ALL OF IT
[2017-04-08 23:29:33] j8 : i think you're overreacting. withdrawals to one bank were blocked, right
[2017-04-08 23:32:26] frog : its not even than bad it is only correspondent bank for SWIFT, but will be interesting to find out why
[2017-04-08 23:35:24] frog : WF should be able to rely on Taiwanese banks to ensure that their customers have met regulatory requirements.
[2017-04-08 23:47:25] Zen Trader : https://twitter.com/ButtCoin/status/850432164730720259
[2017-04-09 00:02:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60724 @ 1184.6 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-09 00:04:29] 123abc : Zen Trader: lol
[2017-04-09 00:09:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 27969 @ 0.00003083
[2017-04-09 00:12:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 1100 @ 0.03761
[2017-04-09 00:13:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1218429 @ 0.00002968
[2017-04-09 00:13:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.00002986
[2017-04-09 00:13:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 139500 @ 0.00002996
[2017-04-09 00:16:10] zqooN : 1218429 lol
[2017-04-09 00:23:47] 123abc : rofl XRP
[2017-04-09 00:25:22] 123abc : 1 big holder market selling rekts a bunch
[2017-04-09 00:27:41] 123abc : zqooN: that was like a 8 btc XRP long that got margin called
[2017-04-09 00:28:28] 123abc : maybe 6. still a big risk
[2017-04-09 00:28:48] 123abc : even ETH being dumped
[2017-04-09 00:29:10] plappa : eth belongs at 0
[2017-04-09 00:29:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 702 @ 0.03695
[2017-04-09 00:29:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 10 @ 0.03706
[2017-04-09 00:29:44] plappa : mega rekt
[2017-04-09 00:33:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 772760 @ 0.00002925
[2017-04-09 00:34:08] 123abc : lol wtf
[2017-04-09 00:34:56] brojo : shorts about to get rekt
[2017-04-09 00:34:58] brojo : including me
[2017-04-09 00:35:03] 123abc : what coin
[2017-04-09 00:35:04] 123abc : btc?
[2017-04-09 00:35:06] brojo : btx
[2017-04-09 00:35:07] brojo : btc
[2017-04-09 00:35:15] brojo : i get rect at 1200
[2017-04-09 00:35:24] 123abc : i say BTC breakout within 24 hours
[2017-04-09 00:35:50] brojo : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/ev4Y38Gw-BTC-pull-back-to-1100-Area/
[2017-04-09 00:35:55] brojo : just broke out of my prediction
[2017-04-09 00:35:58] brojo : i might just stop loss here
[2017-04-09 00:36:01] 123abc : http://i.imgur.com/eH5NzRh.png
[2017-04-09 00:36:02] brojo : i have 3btc leveraged 50x
[2017-04-09 00:36:13] 123abc : if BTC pumps then it is getting close to ATH again
[2017-04-09 00:36:49] 123abc : 1260-1290 USD will be the big resistance
[2017-04-09 00:37:19] brojo : yes it goes up to 1190 im getting out
[2017-04-09 00:37:23] 123abc : volume so low right now on bitfinex
[2017-04-09 00:37:25] brojo : do for a big red candle here tho
[2017-04-09 00:38:24] brojo : strong sell here could make a nice bear hammer but its looking greenish to me
[2017-04-09 00:38:38] 123abc : XRP still dumping
[2017-04-09 00:41:14] shiroe : pump last week, dump this week.
[2017-04-09 00:41:15] shiroe : lol
[2017-04-09 00:41:19] shiroe : cycle never ends.
[2017-04-09 00:42:02] 123abc : recently btc sideways = pump
[2017-04-09 00:49:28] Secup : Wtf, this ntc
[2017-04-09 00:49:39] Secup : Where it going!
[2017-04-09 00:50:04] Secup : Up or down?
[2017-04-09 00:51:53] plappa : volume on weekends always slow
[2017-04-09 00:54:09] Secup : There, shorting at 100k
[2017-04-09 00:54:22] Secup : Liq at 1247
[2017-04-09 00:54:42] Secup : Take prof at 1180
[2017-04-09 00:56:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 2 @ 0.03726
[2017-04-09 01:08:10] 123abc : lol who did that for the lulz
[2017-04-09 01:08:19] 123abc : insta margin called yourself
[2017-04-09 01:10:19] 123abc : quarterly discount is huge
[2017-04-09 01:11:09] 123abc : i suppose $1200 is the big resistance currently
[2017-04-09 01:11:23] 123abc : if whales push it higher then everyone fomo closes shorts or gets rekt
[2017-04-09 01:23:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 4000 @ 0.00002945
[2017-04-09 01:57:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.00002939
[2017-04-09 01:58:06] 123abc : lol
[2017-04-09 02:17:43] 123abc : pretty boring
[2017-04-09 02:19:39] Secup : True that
[2017-04-09 02:25:44] 123abc : hate how BTC moves just 1% at a time
[2017-04-09 02:29:24] plappa : that's because china isn't in anymore
[2017-04-09 02:33:03] level2 : why china dont trade btc?
[2017-04-09 02:33:21] 123abc : oh nice XMR back up
[2017-04-09 02:33:29] 123abc : at least something is moving
[2017-04-09 02:33:52] 123abc : level2: not sure
[2017-04-09 02:34:11] 123abc : btc in china moves 3% in a week while elsewhere it moves 15% a week
[2017-04-09 02:34:26] Secup : They trade otc
[2017-04-09 02:34:27] 123abc : nice xmr
[2017-04-09 02:34:34] 123abc : wonder what otc price is
[2017-04-09 02:34:43] 123abc : probably near other exchanges
[2017-04-09 02:34:56] MikeHunt : level2: have to use other exchanges to use margin trading
[2017-04-09 02:35:04] plappa : they are on polo now
[2017-04-09 02:35:07] plappa : pumping alt coins
[2017-04-09 02:35:10] plappa : cause china banned bitcoin
[2017-04-09 02:35:13] 123abc : lol
[2017-04-09 02:35:38] 123abc : i wonder what kind of pump groups risk thousands of BTC on polo
[2017-04-09 02:35:58] plappa : is it wrong to leave like 1/3rd of your net worth on polo
[2017-04-09 02:36:09] plappa : lol it's so shitty cause you have to wait 15-20 minutes to deposit sometimes
[2017-04-09 02:36:34] 123abc : polo seems to be doing things legit
[2017-04-09 02:36:40] 123abc : just has a shitty trading experience
[2017-04-09 02:36:51] plappa : yea when things go crazy but they have no transparency
[2017-04-09 02:36:56] plappa : but the banks cant fuck with them cause no fiat
[2017-04-09 02:37:06] plappa : i'm not sure how USDT will work out cause i think it's illegal lol
[2017-04-09 02:37:18] 123abc : they ask for a bunch of shit if you wanna withdraw a big amount though
[2017-04-09 02:37:23] 123abc : unless you okay with $2000 a day
[2017-04-09 02:37:29] plappa : i can get 7k
[2017-04-09 02:37:34] plappa : just putting my street address on there
[2017-04-09 02:37:53] 123abc : yeah i suppose governments wont know that
[2017-04-09 02:38:01] 123abc : i suppose they already know though
[2017-04-09 02:38:08] plappa : know what?
[2017-04-09 02:38:11] plappa : i doubt they report to the irs
[2017-04-09 02:38:12] 123abc : that you trade
[2017-04-09 02:38:15] plappa : cause there is no fiat on there
[2017-04-09 02:38:34] plappa : they will only do specific summons specific users, coinbase had a battle and they fought in court
[2017-04-09 02:38:41] plappa : irs pushed back the court date for some reason
[2017-04-09 02:38:48] plappa : cause it's unreasonable to ask for everyone's info
[2017-04-09 02:38:53] plappa : also u can use bitfinex
[2017-04-09 02:38:57] plappa : no withdraw or deposit limit
[2017-04-09 02:39:00] plappa : no kyc
[2017-04-09 02:39:02] 123abc : yeah
[2017-04-09 02:39:04] 123abc : btce too
[2017-04-09 02:39:13] plappa : shady as fuark
[2017-04-09 02:39:18] plappa : it's funny cause btce is super trusted
[2017-04-09 02:39:21] 123abc : but for how long till banks start interjecting
[2017-04-09 02:39:26] plappa : what can they do?
[2017-04-09 02:39:28] plappa : ban bitcoin?
[2017-04-09 02:39:33] 123abc : btce gets DDOS and you wonder why
[2017-04-09 02:39:42] plappa : well that's the only thing
[2017-04-09 02:39:51] plappa : i remember on ETF day at 4pm everything to rekt
[2017-04-09 02:39:57] 123abc : yeah
[2017-04-09 02:40:11] 123abc : that day was wack
[2017-04-09 02:40:13] plappa : people are quick to blame but dont realize how much traffic we put into this site
[2017-04-09 02:40:17] plappa : it was fun
[2017-04-09 02:40:24] plappa : i could've made bank that day
[2017-04-09 02:40:32] plappa : but it was nice to see huge support around 1120 or whatever it was
[2017-04-09 02:40:41] plappa : was expecting no one to rebuy at 950
[2017-04-09 02:40:59] 123abc : didnt hit below 1000 due to exchange lagging to shit
[2017-04-09 02:41:14] 123abc : mark price didnt go below 1100
[2017-04-09 02:41:34] 123abc : miss those fun trading days
[2017-04-09 02:41:51] 123abc : i guess next time BTC breaks $1300 everyone will be longing to the max
[2017-04-09 02:42:00] plappa : what u really miss is china fucking u in the ass
[2017-04-09 02:42:02] plappa : while u wer esleeping
[2017-04-09 02:42:07] plappa : i remember pboc waking up and going WTF
[2017-04-09 02:42:18] plappa : bitcoin is becoming more and more immune to fud
[2017-04-09 02:42:24] 123abc : yeah
[2017-04-09 02:42:28] plappa : the only thing roger/jihan have left is saying "we fork tomorrow"
[2017-04-09 02:42:30] 123abc : going to take something great to get BTC to dump now
[2017-04-09 02:42:30] plappa : but they cant do that
[2017-04-09 02:42:32] plappa : they will get REKT
[2017-04-09 02:42:34] 123abc : any news is good news now
[2017-04-09 02:42:46] plappa : only thing i can think of is polo getting hacked
[2017-04-09 02:42:55] plappa : there is like a billion dollars on there or something
[2017-04-09 02:43:54] 123abc : there is more than enough money on exchanges to support the current price
[2017-04-09 02:44:14] 123abc : no one is selling and btc will only go down in a manipulative dump
[2017-04-09 02:45:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 300 @ 0.00935
[2017-04-09 02:46:12] MikeHunt : 123abc: or bad news
[2017-04-09 02:46:14] 123abc : ltc 2 pools trying to block segwit gaining power lol
[2017-04-09 02:46:56] 123abc : About 1646 GH/s, or 64.4% of the network
[2017-04-09 03:13:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 50 @ 0.00920
[2017-04-09 03:15:23] level2 : why rise LTC?
[2017-04-09 03:15:29] 123abc : ltc big dump
[2017-04-09 03:15:54] 123abc : guessing many people happy to sell 2x-3x higher
[2017-04-09 03:17:32] Armis : After all bad news what came out in last 2 months about btc , people start less and less worry about it , only fork can stop btc
[2017-04-09 03:22:25] 123abc : yeah too much money sold and looking to get back in + new money
[2017-04-09 03:25:21] Armis : Do u trade only btc ?
[2017-04-09 03:26:04] Armis : 123abc
[2017-04-09 03:29:49] 123abc : only trade bitmex
[2017-04-09 03:31:00] 123abc : most likely btc pumps and alts dump soon
[2017-04-09 03:32:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 1188.6
[2017-04-09 03:34:23] 123abc : damn quarterly discount not that big any more
[2017-04-09 03:35:16] Armis : I was trying to trade some alrcoins as well , but unfortunately I don't have so much time to give attention for too many charts , because I'm still beginner and still working some shit job :D hope that till September I will be able to change that
[2017-04-09 04:05:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 22500 @ 0.00002991
[2017-04-09 04:05:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 700 @ 0.00002995
[2017-04-09 04:06:49] 123abc : Washington State blocking people from trading BTC
[2017-04-09 04:06:55] 123abc : poloniex and other exchanges
[2017-04-09 04:07:08] 123abc : i'm sure it starts with 1 state testing it out
[2017-04-09 04:07:16] 123abc : soon poloniex and exchanges blocking all 50 states
[2017-04-09 04:07:35] 123abc : bitmex 1 step ahead by just saying fuck USA completely
[2017-04-09 04:15:07] 123abc : Ltc dump
[2017-04-09 04:15:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 600 @ 0.00002955
[2017-04-09 04:15:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.00002955
[2017-04-09 04:15:37] 123abc : Probably a good coin to short
[2017-04-09 04:18:10] plappa : btc break up above 1194!!
[2017-04-09 04:18:11] plappa : to da moon
[2017-04-09 04:18:19] plappa : although i dont know if we can get a rally going at a 1am
[2017-04-09 04:21:13] mark121 : 1am eh that puts you on the east coast
[2017-04-09 04:21:45] mark121 : i hear all of the btc rally's begin from massive buying from Eastern Canada
[2017-04-09 04:22:32] plappa : it's weekend time tho
[2017-04-09 04:22:35] plappa : anyone think btc is gonna fomo
[2017-04-09 04:25:16] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/dqNCaCx7/
[2017-04-09 04:25:41] mark121 : post that per discussion from this morning
[2017-04-09 04:26:00] plappa : rip eth
[2017-04-09 04:26:01] plappa : not looking good
[2017-04-09 04:26:14] plappa : btc pressure is going ham on everything right now
[2017-04-09 04:26:28] mark121 : not difficult to know boundaries of ranged instruments
[2017-04-09 04:28:51] Secup : Im from eastern canada
[2017-04-09 04:28:52] mark121 : i drew that yesterday and posted in here that it has a little room to go upwards
[2017-04-09 04:30:50] datboiyuan : Washington isn't blocking btc
[2017-04-09 04:31:03] datboiyuan : it's just regulation that exchanges don't want to adhere to
[2017-04-09 04:31:14] datboiyuan : bittrex is complying and adhering
[2017-04-09 04:32:15] mark121 : this might sound crazy
[2017-04-09 04:32:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1745 @ 0.00899
[2017-04-09 04:32:42] mark121 : but i took all margin liquidity and put it into bitshares lol
[2017-04-09 04:32:54] mark121 : like 20 hrs ag o:p
[2017-04-09 04:32:59] mark121 : oops
[2017-04-09 04:33:07] mark121 : 16 hrs
[2017-04-09 04:33:25] mark121 : (on polo ofc) dont think ittrades anywhere else
[2017-04-09 04:38:00] mark121 : think cud see some alt rally inc
[2017-04-09 04:38:01] aethlios : 123abc: i hope we crypto traders won't be declared enemies of the state.
[2017-04-09 04:38:16] mark121 : sold all my bitshares
[2017-04-09 04:38:22] mark121 : aethlios: very likely will
[2017-04-09 04:38:57] mark121 : my lawyer has found out quite a bit of the current attitude in government and LE about crypto
[2017-04-09 04:40:03] mark121 : i have no record, havent committed a crime or anything perceivable to be one in 5 years yet I was called by a detective about bitcoin
[2017-04-09 04:41:14] mark121 : Japan's adoption is good tho
[2017-04-09 04:42:19] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/VKYPEhAK/
[2017-04-09 04:43:11] mark121 : im long eth for now on a hunch
[2017-04-09 04:43:33] mark121 : its only 1min but buying is okay
[2017-04-09 04:44:20] plappa : short eth imo
[2017-04-09 04:44:46] KingTuna : LTC closed my long last night (my time) again in profit.. Not looking great. Considering a short position
[2017-04-09 04:44:56] mark121 : ya me 2
[2017-04-09 04:45:33] mark121 : plappa: short was better morninghowever yes thats the easy call - my call is a tactical snipe
[2017-04-09 04:45:51] plappa : gotcha
[2017-04-09 04:45:53] mark121 : dont kno when BTC cud fomo but its been alot closer many times and failed
[2017-04-09 04:46:05] mark121 : i have a hunch it will break eventually tho
[2017-04-09 04:46:21] mark121 : but i havent evaluated last 15 hrs or so
[2017-04-09 04:47:28] plappa : breakdown?
[2017-04-09 04:48:14] mark121 : up or down :p
[2017-04-09 04:48:20] plappa : :p
[2017-04-09 04:48:21] mark121 : nah i was thinking up but
[2017-04-09 04:49:39] mark121 : we shall see - alts seems to be near a point where a rally almost has to take place out of necessity
[2017-04-09 04:49:56] mark121 : in all but the most immediate of timeframes
[2017-04-09 04:50:35] mark121 : some of them anyhow, LTC cud be drop like a hooligan in a batman movie
[2017-04-09 04:55:15] mark121 : necessity is subjective and based on what i sensed as a desire to be taken seriously :P
[2017-04-09 04:59:55] mark121 : CLAM may be on a little inverse h&s rally inc
[2017-04-09 05:00:28] mark121 : or death, despression and destructio
[2017-04-09 05:00:33] mark121 : either or
[2017-04-09 05:01:49] mark121 : cud jus as well be a top h&s
[2017-04-09 05:08:17] mark121 : im long CLAM chowder now
[2017-04-09 05:11:03] mark121 : eth lookin scary closed
[2017-04-09 05:11:20] mark121 : half
[2017-04-09 05:14:08] mark121 : go clams
[2017-04-09 05:14:22] mark121 : KingTuna: how u feel bout ripple for next 12hr
[2017-04-09 05:17:42] mark121 : eth back in fullforce with tight stop
[2017-04-09 05:19:16] mark121 : btc long?
[2017-04-09 05:20:11] mark121 : which make sme close eth
[2017-04-09 05:21:35] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/K5jQCvsZ/
[2017-04-09 05:22:11] mark121 : the buying never lies
[2017-04-09 05:25:13] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-04-09 05:25:16] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 36.57 / 63.43 Daily : 51.71 / 48.29 Weekly : 45.26 / 54.74 Monthly : 50.73 / 49.27```
[2017-04-09 05:30:58] mark121 : btc wrong timeframe disregard chrt
[2017-04-09 05:37:46] frog : mark121: since the BTC dump earlier there has been a recovery in price with around 3 times as much volume as in the dump, so the price has held up pretty well under heavy selling at least so far
[2017-04-09 05:43:26] MikeHunt : may see a little dumping over weekend
[2017-04-09 05:43:35] MikeHunt : to smooth out any resistance
[2017-04-09 05:43:41] MikeHunt : but next week i expect to see 1250
[2017-04-09 06:03:21] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: mikehunt got it!!
[2017-04-09 06:03:46] mark121 : if we at 1250 we goin to 1400
[2017-04-09 06:04:00] alejandromasari : 1500 by may!
[2017-04-09 06:04:06] alejandromasari : sorry june
[2017-04-09 06:04:17] mark121 : originally back in jan
[2017-04-09 06:04:20] mark121 : btc ws on pace for
[2017-04-09 06:04:31] mark121 : 1400+ end of april
[2017-04-09 06:04:47] alejandromasari : it hit 1500 xbth17
[2017-04-09 06:04:52] Apocalyptic : you guys see much mooning ahead
[2017-04-09 06:05:09] mark121 : im talkin real coin pricing
[2017-04-09 06:05:11] alejandromasari : lots we are going to meet Musk on Mars
[2017-04-09 06:05:31] mark121 : the chart prescribed that target Apocalyptic
[2017-04-09 06:05:55] mark121 : however macroeconomic factors certainly support it
[2017-04-09 06:06:10] mark121 : in June the markets wil crash
[2017-04-09 06:06:53] alejandromasari : marine lepen elections will move gold and bitchcoins.
[2017-04-09 06:06:55] mark121 : primary bullmark in equities is long overdue
[2017-04-09 06:07:07] mark121 : for a dose of reality
[2017-04-09 06:07:35] Apocalyptic : mark121: I'm so waiting for that 40% S&P drop
[2017-04-09 06:07:38] Apocalyptic : long overdue indeed
[2017-04-09 06:08:10] Apocalyptic : and I say 40 because I'm not greedy
[2017-04-09 06:08:14] mark121 : definitely... im amassing quite a position
[2017-04-09 06:08:28] mark121 : in long dated put options
[2017-04-09 06:08:41] mark121 : so is my work
[2017-04-09 06:08:45] Apocalyptic : why not short ES ? don't want unlimited risk ?
[2017-04-09 06:09:08] mark121 : futures? work is
[2017-04-09 06:09:23] Apocalyptic : yes, ES are spx futures
[2017-04-09 06:09:37] mark121 : .. lol i kno i was makin sure u meant that
[2017-04-09 06:09:40] mark121 : !!!
[2017-04-09 06:09:40] mark121 : :)
[2017-04-09 06:10:26] mark121 : the fact that u r in crypto and seem to kno equities markets alrdy is rare
[2017-04-09 06:10:27] aethlios : mark121: i am interested in buying (after a stock market bear market) an etf called ROBO, which invests in robotics related companies. i plan to load the boat. Do you think robotics are a strong long tern play??
[2017-04-09 06:11:52] Apocalyptic : aethlios: the iShares one or ETFSecurities ?
[2017-04-09 06:11:56] mark121 : probably but i wud suggest targeting the industry leaders more tactically
[2017-04-09 06:12:41] mark121 : Apocalyptic: do u know timerdigest?
[2017-04-09 06:12:52] aethlios : Apocalyptic: http://www.etf.com/ROBO
[2017-04-09 06:13:09] mark121 : robo is the ticker
[2017-04-09 06:13:16] mark121 : is its the one wit that ticker
[2017-04-09 06:13:17] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-09 06:13:20] mark121 : so its*
[2017-04-09 06:13:33] Apocalyptic : mark121: nope, what is it ?
[2017-04-09 06:14:28] aethlios : i prefer th eetf, not specific stocks, let the etf manager to decide which companies and %, they can make better analysis.
[2017-04-09 06:14:51] mark121 : one of the only useful publications for inviduals imo
[2017-04-09 06:14:57] mark121 : also not very costly
[2017-04-09 06:15:35] aethlios : Apocalyptic: i see the sector the new big thing, maybe like blockchain tech. in 20 years each house will have a robo housewife.
[2017-04-09 06:15:39] Apocalyptic : aethlios: I've seen better expense ratio
[2017-04-09 06:15:42] mark121 : some timers dont update it as often as id like but its pretty much a summary ofwhat the best timers in world think
[2017-04-09 06:15:52] mark121 : is goin gto happen across the major asset classes
[2017-04-09 06:16:24] mark121 : most beefy in equities tho
[2017-04-09 06:16:44] Apocalyptic : aethlios: btw if you're into etfs https://www.justetf.com is nice
[2017-04-09 06:17:17] Apocalyptic : you can easily compare stuff and I find the presentation better than etf.com
[2017-04-09 06:17:32] mark121 : Apocalyptic: and to answer ur Q, i think option are riskier in reality
[2017-04-09 06:17:45] mark121 : as yes s&p could go to a billion
[2017-04-09 06:17:53] mark121 : but ud be a moron to hold ur short lol
[2017-04-09 06:17:56] Apocalyptic : mark121: well with options you pay for the time value
[2017-04-09 06:19:12] mark121 : yes time and volaility
[2017-04-09 06:20:07] mark121 : but options can go to 0 value
[2017-04-09 06:20:30] mark121 : but i mean in both cases u need risk mgmt
[2017-04-09 06:20:41] mark121 : so id say they are similar in nature
[2017-04-09 06:21:08] mark121 : i guess my reasoning is two fold
[2017-04-09 06:21:12] Apocalyptic : the big diff is unlimited/limited downside
[2017-04-09 06:21:28] Apocalyptic : but yeah if nothing happens you're kinda stuck with worthless options
[2017-04-09 06:21:32] mark121 : yes ofc, theoretically
[2017-04-09 06:21:43] Apocalyptic : whereas you yould breakeven with your future short
[2017-04-09 06:23:26] mark121 : im just not a futures guy so i feel comfortable with option puts
[2017-04-09 06:23:50] mark121 : i trade futures only when i got a pro to trade with
[2017-04-09 06:24:07] mark121 : like one of the top ranked timers from that newsletter (fari)
[2017-04-09 06:24:22] Apocalyptic : I prefer being on the other side of the trade with options
[2017-04-09 06:24:29] Apocalyptic : that is writing them :)
[2017-04-09 06:24:41] mark121 : naked or covered?
[2017-04-09 06:25:06] Apocalyptic : usually covered
[2017-04-09 06:25:33] mark121 : its an excelent way to lower ur costs of entry
[2017-04-09 06:25:55] mark121 : any fav tickers for writing?
[2017-04-09 06:26:02] veritas : /sentiment
[2017-04-09 06:26:04] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 27.85 / 72.15 Daily : 51.05 / 48.95 Weekly : 45.22 / 54.78 Monthly : 50.73 / 49.27```
[2017-04-09 06:27:08] Apocalyptic : mark121: my fav strategy is writing puts on single stocks I wouldn't mind buying
[2017-04-09 06:27:58] Apocalyptic : nice income if by chance I'm being assigned then I'm glad, so it's income and a win-win situation
[2017-04-09 06:28:11] Apocalyptic : *and if
[2017-04-09 06:29:39] mark121 : i kno who a few guys who do the same
[2017-04-09 06:29:49] mark121 : they rarely buy any other way lol
[2017-04-09 06:30:03] mark121 : good strat
[2017-04-09 06:30:15] Apocalyptic : mark121: once you know the trick you would be stupid not to :)
[2017-04-09 06:30:22] Apocalyptic : unless you immediately must have it
[2017-04-09 06:32:34] mark121 : best time is start of anew bullmkt
[2017-04-09 06:33:04] Apocalyptic : for sure
[2017-04-09 06:33:05] mark121 : u can make a killing all the way up
[2017-04-09 06:33:16] Apocalyptic : that's the plan
[2017-04-09 06:33:47] mark121 : i dont think naked puts or calls shud be allowed
[2017-04-09 06:34:07] level2 : is better sell call of SPY than buy puts
[2017-04-09 06:34:27] Apocalyptic : level2: if you sell calls and it moons you're so rekt
[2017-04-09 06:34:40] mark121 : why is it better
[2017-04-09 06:34:52] mark121 : if u time it
[2017-04-09 06:34:52] level2 : all the buyer of options loss money
[2017-04-09 06:35:22] Apocalyptic : if it never reaches the strike yes, but how can't you know ?
[2017-04-09 06:35:31] Apocalyptic : *can
[2017-04-09 06:35:51] mark121 : u mean in general? \
[2017-04-09 06:35:55] mark121 : (level2)
[2017-04-09 06:36:09] mark121 : mr buffet seems to think so
[2017-04-09 06:36:21] mark121 : a tool for the rich to get richer and retail to get smoked
[2017-04-09 06:36:31] Apocalyptic : selling calls is almost equivalent to shorting the underlying with the associated leverage, the only diff is you pocket the time value
[2017-04-09 06:36:42] Apocalyptic : but liquidity will be far worse if you need to get out
[2017-04-09 06:36:44] level2 : see the data from CBOE ,80% of options when come the date close to 0
[2017-04-09 06:37:03] mark121 : that dusnt answer our question
[2017-04-09 06:37:27] mark121 : or mine :p
[2017-04-09 06:37:30] level2 : is better sell futures than buy puts
[2017-04-09 06:37:59] mark121 : im aware that its preferred
[2017-04-09 06:38:07] mark121 : but give ur reasoning
[2017-04-09 06:39:17] level2 : is better futures for :liquid ,cheap comision,dont pay time decay and volatilitiy
[2017-04-09 06:39:35] mark121 : im not buying 1 option at a time lol
[2017-04-09 06:39:58] mark121 : liquidity?
[2017-04-09 06:40:03] level2 : yes
[2017-04-09 06:40:08] mark121 : SPY options are extremely liquid
[2017-04-09 06:40:19] Apocalyptic : mark121: more so than SPY itself ?
[2017-04-09 06:40:41] level2 : and the spread for the bid and ask?
[2017-04-09 06:40:50] mark121 : depends on the market conditions
[2017-04-09 06:40:56] Apocalyptic : he has a point, options are generally less liquid than the underlying
[2017-04-09 06:41:04] mark121 : generally
[2017-04-09 06:41:05] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-09 06:41:20] mark121 : SPY options are an exception
[2017-04-09 06:41:36] level2 : you can save 30% of the money if you use futures
[2017-04-09 06:41:56] mark121 : uh as a general rule?
[2017-04-09 06:41:57] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-09 06:42:19] Apocalyptic : a whopping 30%
[2017-04-09 06:42:26] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-09 06:42:27] Apocalyptic : only available today
[2017-04-09 06:42:28] mark121 : hahah
[2017-04-09 06:43:07] level2 : how much do you buy of puts? each day you loss 100 usd of time decay
[2017-04-09 06:43:21] mark121 : WHAT
[2017-04-09 06:43:34] mark121 : yes u lose some time value but volatility can make up for it
[2017-04-09 06:43:52] mark121 : but the pt is
[2017-04-09 06:44:07] level2 : see vix this is low