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[2017-04-08 15:04:18] etoque : Just hope they gonna dump it a bit before
[2017-04-08 15:04:27] etoque : shouldn't have close my long yesterday ughhhhh
[2017-04-08 15:05:17] Ahhere : etoque: which long u close babes?
[2017-04-08 15:05:22] Ahhere : Ltc?
[2017-04-08 15:05:32] etoque : yeahhhhhh
[2017-04-08 15:05:38] Ahhere : Upps
[2017-04-08 15:05:49] Ahhere : ?
[2017-04-08 15:05:53] etoque : Just think to get mopore monero
[2017-04-08 15:06:10] Ahhere : U think monero has more to go? It's jumped a lot in past year
[2017-04-08 15:06:19] etoque : not like dash lol
[2017-04-08 15:06:24] etoque : or zcash lol
[2017-04-08 15:06:28] Ahhere : It's up 20 or 40x that's more than dash
[2017-04-08 15:06:29] etoque : there's definitively room to growth
[2017-04-08 15:06:30] frog : etoque: at least your not short
[2017-04-08 15:06:47] etoque : Ahhere: what?
[2017-04-08 15:07:07] Ahhere : When was it 50c and dollar again ? A year ago no?
[2017-04-08 15:07:20] etoque : Ahhere: was 2 buck to 20 buck
[2017-04-08 15:07:28] etoque : Ahhere: dash was 2 buck to 100 buck
[2017-04-08 15:07:30] etoque : lol
[2017-04-08 15:09:02] Ahhere : When was it a dollar 2 years?
[2017-04-08 15:09:22] etoque : 2 years lol
[2017-04-08 15:09:29] Ahhere : I sold my dash for monero when dash was 3 or 4 dollars and monero was under a dollar ok 2 years
[2017-04-08 15:10:19] Ahhere : I think monero is less established. No trezor etc
[2017-04-08 15:10:28] etoque : chart is good
[2017-04-08 15:10:48] etoque : price have 40 buck difference and 200m on cap... it'll gonna rise
[2017-04-08 15:11:15] 123abc : bitcoin is sinking
[2017-04-08 15:11:22] etoque : that's a very good news
[2017-04-08 15:11:31] etoque : drunk bitcoin go home
[2017-04-08 15:13:20] Ahhere : etoque: I'm holding but sold half for btc the alt bloodbath will be ugg
[2017-04-08 15:14:29] etoque : no blodbath for alt
[2017-04-08 15:14:33] etoque : bitcoin going 700
[2017-04-08 15:14:52] etoque : btc simply can't handle in technical view higher price
[2017-04-08 15:15:15] etoque : too much stuck confirmation,very slow network,high fee
[2017-04-08 15:15:31] atlanta : Here it comes
[2017-04-08 15:15:36] Vintage : time to go long on eth
[2017-04-08 15:15:40] laisee : BTC break-up value is higher than staying together. We need a corprate raider for crypto.
[2017-04-08 15:15:53] MikeHunt : btc usually doesnt crash slowly like this
[2017-04-08 15:15:57] MikeHunt : it goes after a rise
[2017-04-08 15:16:52] etoque : lol
[2017-04-08 15:16:57] etoque : you're bitcoiner here
[2017-04-08 15:16:59] mahouni : It will take some speed lower then shoot to 1240 and crush all these sure short technical view guys
[2017-04-08 15:17:17] etoque : lolll
[2017-04-08 15:17:28] Nick Leeson : Bitcoin is the main driver for influx of fiat into the ecosystem, if bitcoin long term downtrand starts for bitcoin, alts will follow shortly. I wouldn't worry before we dive below 1170 and it consolidates below this level.
[2017-04-08 15:17:32] etoque : I work alot with people trying to have business with bitcoin but not feseable
[2017-04-08 15:17:38] etoque : You are speculator
[2017-04-08 15:17:42] etoque : not moving your bitcoin
[2017-04-08 15:18:00] MikeHunt : mahouni: i expect a slow dribble to 1150
[2017-04-08 15:18:04] MikeHunt : then shorters get raped
[2017-04-08 15:19:04] mahouni : Maybe, we shall see
[2017-04-08 15:21:34] laisee : ETH is going to bring in more $$$ to crypto thatn BTC
[2017-04-08 15:26:58] rapidtrades : ppl who've been in crypto long time realize this is one giant ponzi
[2017-04-08 15:27:13] rapidtrades : BTC too old and too big to pump
[2017-04-08 15:27:29] rapidtrades : thats only reason why ETH is up so much
[2017-04-08 15:27:38] rapidtrades : its the new ponzi with lowwer market cap
[2017-04-08 15:27:54] rapidtrades : there's no use case that justifies 3bl market cap, its a big joke
[2017-04-08 15:28:01] Dnavid : Only way btc will pump is if BCU goes under 10% BTC decisively, else if BCU rebounds, it's freefall.
[2017-04-08 15:28:18] rapidtrades : /fork
[2017-04-08 15:28:19] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 1043.80 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 110.01 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-04-08 15:28:39] rapidtrades : meh its already priced out
[2017-04-08 15:28:46] rapidtrades : odds are too low in fact
[2017-04-08 15:28:55] rapidtrades : BU will not give up this easily
[2017-04-08 15:33:18] etoque : nice xmr :)
[2017-04-08 15:35:43] ross : lets hope this xrp shite dies today
[2017-04-08 15:37:02] MikeHunt : imo BU is dead
[2017-04-08 15:37:08] MikeHunt : after the asic controversy
[2017-04-08 15:37:15] MikeHunt : core might be nazis but this is a scandal!
[2017-04-08 15:38:14] etoque : this war between classic/*btc is cute
[2017-04-08 15:38:19] Shaman : /prixw
[2017-04-08 15:38:19] Shaman : /price
[2017-04-08 15:38:21] etoque : but from external view btc is doneeeee
[2017-04-08 15:38:23] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1186.61 (-0.59%) Bitfinex : 1189.20 (-0.73%) The Woodchipper : 1180.07 (-0.81%) itBit : 1185.16 (-0.53%) Kraken : 1188.00 (-0.57%) GDAX : 1188.32 (-0.23%) SLQ : 5 hours, 27 mins```
[2017-04-08 15:38:36] rapidtrades : BU can't be dead they have majority of hash power
[2017-04-08 15:38:46] uej : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 15:38:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 72.56 / 27.44 Daily : 45.67 / 54.33 Weekly : 45.26 / 54.74 Monthly : 50.64 / 49.37```
[2017-04-08 15:39:01] 123abc : XMR here we go
[2017-04-08 15:42:25] men : when btc will go down? :(
[2017-04-08 15:46:14] startChat : rapidtrades: signaling means nothing
[2017-04-08 15:49:47] MikeHunt : Perhaps both are dead and as a result btc is too
[2017-04-08 15:49:56] MikeHunt : No reform means a slow death
[2017-04-08 15:57:11] etoque : future is into altcoin
[2017-04-08 15:58:39] Poo : As soon as btc drops some dollars people start bringing out the FUD
[2017-04-08 15:58:55] Poo : sold xmr to early :(
[2017-04-08 15:58:55] atlanta : Here
[2017-04-08 15:58:55] atlanta : we
[2017-04-08 15:58:57] atlanta : fucking
[2017-04-08 15:58:58] atlanta : go
[2017-04-08 15:59:06] atlanta : Right on time.
[2017-04-08 15:59:53] men : xmr buy tim
[2017-04-08 16:00:17] men : cup and handle in play
[2017-04-08 16:00:27] Flomaster : hi
[2017-04-08 16:00:42] men : very bullish
[2017-04-08 16:00:54] etoque : :)))
[2017-04-08 16:01:08] etoque : switching my ltc for xmr wasn't that bad
[2017-04-08 16:01:19] Poo : Well played
[2017-04-08 16:01:47] etoque : love those 30 day contract,I can really wait for a pump now lol
[2017-04-08 16:01:57] men : buy wall on monero
[2017-04-08 16:02:08] men : is building up
[2017-04-08 16:02:26] etoque : next couple day will be interesting
[2017-04-08 16:02:28] etoque : hold imo
[2017-04-08 16:02:41] etoque : 0.02 back n more
[2017-04-08 16:03:16] men : etoque: :) yes will be very interesting
[2017-04-08 16:03:32] men : we all know that when xmr pump is the craziest
[2017-04-08 16:03:56] 123abc : should have longed more at 0.0171 on here
[2017-04-08 16:04:08] etoque : in fact that might be my first ride into a xmr real pump lol lets see
[2017-04-08 16:05:24] men : etoque: :D last cup and handle on monero give the price a x3
[2017-04-08 16:05:30] men : remember?
[2017-04-08 16:06:02] etoque : yes i miss it lol
[2017-04-08 16:06:52] men : etoque: i sold at x2 only..
[2017-04-08 16:07:22] men : look crazy xmr bot on polo @etoque
[2017-04-08 16:07:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 53 @ 0.00943
[2017-04-08 16:07:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1 @ 0.00944
[2017-04-08 16:08:00] men : etoque: mad bot on XMR .. i smell the pump :D
[2017-04-08 16:08:16] etoque : HOLD TIGHT
[2017-04-08 16:08:26] etoque : I have just dust here anyway
[2017-04-08 16:08:35] etoque : but If monero can change my dust into something.. :)
[2017-04-08 16:09:55] 123abc : XMR liftoff starting
[2017-04-08 16:10:06] 123abc : XMR waits till every other altcoin has been pumped before starting
[2017-04-08 16:10:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 50 @ 0.00938
[2017-04-08 16:29:09] Secup : Not sure to underatand the btc block size bet, can some.explain it to me please
[2017-04-08 16:29:31] Secup : Let say i think the block size will increase
[2017-04-08 16:33:32] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 16:33:36] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 50.60 / 49.40 Daily : 46.01 / 53.99 Weekly : 45.21 / 54.79 Monthly : 50.68 / 49.32```
[2017-04-08 16:33:55] 123abc : loving that $22 discount on btc quarterly here
[2017-04-08 16:34:17] 123abc : longers gonna feel the pain in a few hours
[2017-04-08 16:35:11] Boontjie : Secup: it is success or failure
[2017-04-08 16:35:24] Boontjie : Either SegWit gets activated or blocksize increase happens
[2017-04-08 16:36:04] Secup : Ya , but how i process to bet on it
[2017-04-08 16:37:10] Boontjie : well if it successful it settles at 100
[2017-04-08 16:37:18] Boontjie : So if you buy at 50, you make 50
[2017-04-08 16:37:30] Boontjie : if it fails you settle at 0
[2017-04-08 16:37:46] Boontjie : The safest bet where you cannot lose is to short 100
[2017-04-08 16:38:34] Secup : So wheb i sew ppl putting 54
[2017-04-08 16:38:48] Secup : They will get 54 back
[2017-04-08 16:39:06] Boontjie : no, its a difference
[2017-04-08 16:39:30] Boontjie : If you put in money at 54, you get a 100 back (i.e. profit of 45) on success
[2017-04-08 16:39:35] Boontjie : and lose it all on failure
[2017-04-08 16:40:02] heheh lo : have u guys read about ASICBOOST
[2017-04-08 16:40:13] Boontjie : To be honest this is the best binary I have ever seen, they are designed to make you lose money
[2017-04-08 16:40:33] Secup : I see
[2017-04-08 16:40:52] Boontjie : profit of 46
[2017-04-08 16:40:54] Boontjie : sorry, typo
[2017-04-08 16:41:02] Secup : I guess ill continue to short btc
[2017-04-08 16:41:12] heheh lo : https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/asicboost-the-reason-why-bitmain-blocked-segwit-901fd346ee9f
[2017-04-08 16:41:34] Boontjie : Secup: You are more likely to make money
[2017-04-08 16:41:38] Boontjie : :)
[2017-04-08 16:42:42] Secup : Hehe
[2017-04-08 16:44:49] Poo : So when you put in a limit order you get a rebate if it gets filled?
[2017-04-08 16:47:14] Poo : Every time my orders get filled i get a positive realised amount
[2017-04-08 16:47:43] L9 : Poo: True
[2017-04-08 16:48:18] L9 : I have an open long position, how to stop trailing stop to protect profits
[2017-04-08 16:48:34] L9 : How to set trailing sell stop I meam
[2017-04-08 16:52:24] hmmmYea : is anyone else excited for all the increased security from asicboost?
[2017-04-08 16:55:48] 123abc : 30% increase
[2017-04-08 17:02:18] Poo : L9: I have no idea, would love to know tho if anyone does? New to bitmex and do like this system so far
[2017-04-08 17:06:13] BitMEX_Sam : L9: Poo: Select Trailing Stop from the top-left order menu.
[2017-04-08 17:07:08] L9 : The red btton isn't active. I am in long @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-04-08 17:07:21] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, use a negative trail
[2017-04-08 17:07:28] BitMEX_Sam : Hover over `Trail Value` for more
[2017-04-08 17:08:13] L9 : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks!!!
[2017-04-08 17:10:47] lorestr : BitMEX_Sam: is any limit order acting as maker from fee perspective? for I see limit orders executed and accounted as taker fee
[2017-04-08 17:13:03] uej : How long is duration on btc/USD contracts?
[2017-04-08 17:14:01] BitMEX_Sam : lorestr: It depends on whether or not it executes immediately after placement
[2017-04-08 17:14:06] L9 : @lorestr Read carefully about the post-only tick
[2017-04-08 17:14:27] BitMEX_Sam : lorestr: You get the maker rebate only if your order does not execute immediately when placed. It has to create visible liquidity
[2017-04-08 17:14:39] BitMEX_Sam : uej: XBTUSD is perpetual, the other contracts are quarterly
[2017-04-08 17:14:55] lorestr : BitMEX_Sam: what is immediately? 5 milisec, 5 sec. 5 min, 5h, 5 dayts?
[2017-04-08 17:14:56] BitMEX_Sam : Some contracts are weekly. See `Expiry Date` on the bottom left of your screen when a contract is active.
[2017-04-08 17:15:07] BitMEX_Sam : lorestr: As in, it executes against a resting order
[2017-04-08 17:15:13] BitMEX_Sam : So immediately is literally "immediately"
[2017-04-08 17:15:33] BitMEX_Sam : If it hits the book first then someone else executes against it 10ms later, you get the maker rebate and they pay the taker fee.
[2017-04-08 17:15:36] lorestr : my not immediately and still as taker fee
[2017-04-08 17:15:40] lorestr : why?
[2017-04-08 17:15:44] sleger : wrong
[2017-04-08 17:15:47] sleger : fake news
[2017-04-08 17:15:54] BitMEX_Sam : Was it a hidden order?
[2017-04-08 17:16:32] lorestr : no
[2017-04-08 17:16:49] cg : do hidden orders have non-standard fee?
[2017-04-08 17:17:11] BitMEX_Sam : cg: Hidden orders don't create visible liquidity, so they are charged the taker fee when they execute
[2017-04-08 17:17:15] uej : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 17:17:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.69 / 55.31 Daily : 45.74 / 54.26 Weekly : 45.16 / 54.84 Monthly : 50.70 / 49.30```
[2017-04-08 17:17:24] cg : I see
[2017-04-08 17:18:25] cg : what happens when there is a market order against a hidden order? both pay taker fee?
[2017-04-08 17:22:16] BitMEX_Sam : Correct, in that case both sides would.
[2017-04-08 17:34:18] flux : BitMEX_Sam: How come your withdraw fees are so high. 0.003 is way too high even when the network is backed up
[2017-04-08 17:34:56] flux : Id rather not pay extra money to miners who are already blocking segwit
[2017-04-08 17:47:10] etoque : luv u xmr
[2017-04-08 17:47:24] 123abc : xmr
[2017-04-08 17:47:25] 123abc : <3
[2017-04-08 17:47:33] etoque : how you do that caracter lol
[2017-04-08 17:47:39] etoque : ❤
[2017-04-08 17:47:40] etoque : ah
[2017-04-08 17:47:50] 123abc : anon coin the future
[2017-04-08 17:47:58] etoque : yes :)
[2017-04-08 17:48:34] j8 : market order against a hidden order gets the maker rebate
[2017-04-08 17:51:23] 123abc : arg
[2017-04-08 17:51:31] 123abc : didnt increase leverage and long more
[2017-04-08 17:57:59] 123abc : keep dumping into the xmr polo pump n00bs
[2017-04-08 17:58:21] 123abc : probably badly coded bots
[2017-04-08 18:13:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 43 @ 0.017808
[2017-04-08 18:15:42] 123abc : okc quarterly dumping a bit
[2017-04-08 18:16:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1183.0
[2017-04-08 18:16:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150 @ 1182.7
[2017-04-08 18:20:25] 123abc : bitfinex taking down BTC price
[2017-04-08 18:21:01] atlanta : Here we go
[2017-04-08 18:22:25] rapidtrades : alts up bitcoin down
[2017-04-08 18:23:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7000 @ 1179.7
[2017-04-08 18:23:54] rapidtrades : so f*cking overpriced
[2017-04-08 18:23:59] rapidtrades : crash already
[2017-04-08 18:25:23] 123abc : etc pumping too
[2017-04-08 18:25:59] men : DCR will be big in the coming days
[2017-04-08 18:26:42] 123abc : https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_dcr
[2017-04-08 18:26:44] 123abc : good eye
[2017-04-08 18:28:03] 123abc : nice XMR
[2017-04-08 18:28:04] Diplomata : /price
[2017-04-08 18:28:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1178.54 (-0.68%) Bitfinex : 1178.30 (-0.92%) The Woodchipper : 1177.00 (-0.26%) itBit : 1177.90 (-0.61%) Kraken : 1175.26 (-1.07%) GDAX : 1183.76 (-0.38%) SLQ : 2 hours, 49 mins```
[2017-04-08 18:33:57] L9 : BitMEX_Sam: Guys, are you planning to implement features supporting opening more than one position on the same type contracts?
[2017-04-08 18:34:12] men : 123abc: DCR will have lightning network and all the feature users will vote
[2017-04-08 18:34:22] rapidtrades : ridiculous, its gonna go up for weeks then lose all gains in 3 days
[2017-04-08 18:34:40] rapidtrades : completely unable to price in risk
[2017-04-08 18:34:41] men : LN is the first DCR will have after hardfork voting
[2017-04-08 18:34:58] rapidtrades : lot of stupid ppl came in this market during the bull run
[2017-04-08 18:35:32] rapidtrades : then the dumbshit will be like 'hur so sad! bitcorns only go down on FUD!''
[2017-04-08 18:35:49] rapidtrades : maybe if u idiots were smart u would start to price in that FUD before u lose 30%
[2017-04-08 18:36:08] rapidtrades : instead of trampling over each other to exit
[2017-04-08 18:38:20] cg : It is priced in. Lots of ppl are short. As soon as any scaling solution is insight, prepare for a 100‰ move.
[2017-04-08 18:38:54] cg : Meanwhile, adoption slowly pushes up price creating this irrational seeming market. IMO
[2017-04-08 18:39:47] vgck : There is zero adoption
[2017-04-08 18:41:46] 123abc : nice DCR is the future
[2017-04-08 18:42:41] 123abc : i dont get how you can be anti BTC on this site
[2017-04-08 18:42:55] 123abc : we're all working towards getting more BTC so a higher BTC price is awesome
[2017-04-08 18:43:37] MikeHunt : 123abc: he is short
[2017-04-08 18:46:36] rapidtrades : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/israeli-bomb-hoax-teen-bitcoin-on-dark-web/
[2017-04-08 18:47:02] uej : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 18:47:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 83.75 / 16.25 Daily : 50.37 / 49.63 Weekly : 45.52 / 54.48 Monthly : 50.77 / 49.23```
[2017-04-08 18:50:20] aethlios : rapidtrades: ltc strong, consolidation for a rally to 20 once LN is up and running?? SW is sure.
[2017-04-08 18:50:22] rapidtrades : https://themerkle.com/wells-fargo-blocks-180m-in-funds-belonging-to-ifinex-and-tether-customers/
[2017-04-08 18:50:36] rapidtrades : aethlios: yeah yeah whatever
[2017-04-08 18:51:04] rapidtrades : another f*ck up by finex
[2017-04-08 18:51:20] rapidtrades : possible they locked the funds on request of US regulators
[2017-04-08 18:52:34] rapidtrades : they're taking wells fargo to court LOOOL thats rich from an exchange that trolled users into not suing few months ago
[2017-04-08 18:53:03] rapidtrades : once my net worth hits X amount i will sue everyone
[2017-04-08 18:53:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100003 @ 1177.9 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-08 18:53:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 9 @ 1177.7
[2017-04-08 18:53:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 25000 @ 1176.7
[2017-04-08 18:53:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1400 @ 1176.2
[2017-04-08 18:54:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 1175.3
[2017-04-08 18:54:22] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2017-04-08 18:54:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 1174.5
[2017-04-08 18:54:43] rapidtrades : also this from yday https://themerkle.com/hong-kong-based-bitvc-exchange-suspends-btc-and-ltc-withdrawals/
[2017-04-08 18:54:53] shiroe : panic at the disco again.
[2017-04-08 18:55:52] shiroe : 200 dollar drop i see.
[2017-04-08 18:55:53] atlanta : Rapid
[2017-04-08 18:55:56] atlanta : How far you see this going ?
[2017-04-08 18:56:08] rapidtrades : break of 890
[2017-04-08 18:56:10] bingbongfly : we are bouncing in 1 hour
[2017-04-08 18:56:13] bingbongfly : back to 1250$
[2017-04-08 18:56:24] shillosopher : bingbongfly: proof?
[2017-04-08 18:56:26] atlanta : what makes you think so bingbong
[2017-04-08 18:56:29] shiroe : probably 1k again.
[2017-04-08 18:56:31] shiroe : oh boy.
[2017-04-08 18:56:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1500 @ 1148.3
[2017-04-08 18:56:53] shiroe : which coin to buy? xrp? lol
[2017-04-08 18:56:56] shillosopher : btc trendline broken , going under it?
[2017-04-08 18:56:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150 @ 1171.1
[2017-04-08 18:56:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 2000 @ 1147.6
[2017-04-08 18:57:10] bingbongfly : atlanta: it's what always happens
[2017-04-08 18:57:20] bingbongfly : but maybe this time is different. TM
[2017-04-08 19:00:59] rapidtrades : @aethlios still waiting to buy BTC?
[2017-04-08 19:01:28] aethlios : rapidtrades: i bought ltc, why to buy btc??
[2017-04-08 19:01:56] aethlios : rapidtrades: i have 127.5K long hedges swap and happily earn the funding.
[2017-04-08 19:02:41] aethlios : rapidtrades: large daily income for a greek!!!
[2017-04-08 19:03:38] Nick Leeson : shillosopher: still above EMA on long term charts, no death cross yet, resistance level at 1170. Should below 1170 and stay there for a day, before I'll start to see long term uptrend under siege, and below long term EMA (currently around 1120-1150 depending on parameters) before its confirmed.
[2017-04-08 19:04:16] binacoin : /price
[2017-04-08 19:04:18] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1174.00 (-0.39%) Bitfinex : 1174.80 (-0.30%) The Woodchipper : 1174.40 (-0.22%) itBit : 1172.73 (-0.44%) Kraken : 1174.00 (-0.11%) GDAX : 1176.89 (-0.58%) SLQ : 36 mins```
[2017-04-08 19:04:49] Poo : long term uptrend is not undersiege until much lower me thinks like 1000s
[2017-04-08 19:04:57] Poo : why is xrp not moving?
[2017-04-08 19:07:03] frog : Nick Leeson: nice analysis
[2017-04-08 19:07:24] shiroe : so the news is usd cashout is frozen, make sense if we go up higher on btc? but we see a sell off. hmmm weird.
[2017-04-08 19:08:01] shillosopher : Nick Leeson: analysis appreciated, ty
[2017-04-08 19:15:00] frog : shiroe: news came out a couple of days ago
[2017-04-08 19:15:10] aethlios : rapidtrades: are we transitioning from the 8year btc standard to the ethereum standard??
[2017-04-08 19:19:34] binacoin : /price
[2017-04-08 19:19:36] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1173.16 (-0.07%) Bitfinex : 1176.00 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1174.30 (-0.01%) itBit : 1173.64 (0.08%) Kraken : 1175.97 (0.17%) GDAX : 1179.62 (0.23%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-04-08 19:20:23] lorestr : aethlios: can you explain your btc long hedge
[2017-04-08 19:22:58] aethlios : long swap and margin short finex or short june when it was in premium.
[2017-04-08 19:23:25] aethlios : long and short have equal usd value so i don't have market risk.
[2017-04-08 19:24:04] aethlios : this is a bear market strategy.
[2017-04-08 19:24:05] lorestr : aethlios: what finex margin used? what interest you pay so bitmex swap long overpay
[2017-04-08 19:24:33] aethlios : lorestr: i borrowed for 25 days with 0.03% daily.
[2017-04-08 19:25:28] aethlios : so i bet bitmex swap will pay in variable interest rates more then 0.03% (fixed interest) i pay in finex.
[2017-04-08 19:25:33] lorestr : aethlios: there were days you made loss, for here not allways >0.03 daily
[2017-04-08 19:25:54] aethlios : lorestr: i have that 3 to 4 days now.
[2017-04-08 19:26:05] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-08 19:26:39] lorestr : aethlios: what leverage used
[2017-04-08 19:27:20] aethlios : lorestr: leverage doesn't matter, just have safe liquidation prices and move funds to add margin when needed.
[2017-04-08 19:27:51] aethlios : notional amount is important. this is a low return strategy but no risk.
[2017-04-08 19:28:04] lorestr : aethlios: so I try to estimate what is safe...10x or more
[2017-04-08 19:28:14] aethlios : so i bet to earn 3% to 4% in a month if btc goes to 900
[2017-04-08 19:28:52] aethlios : lorestr: finex has up to 3.3x so can't go above.
[2017-04-08 19:29:02] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-08 19:29:06] aethlios : but need to have funds in both exchanges.
[2017-04-08 19:29:15] lorestr : sure
[2017-04-08 19:29:26] aethlios : so basically is like 1.5x
[2017-04-08 19:29:37] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-08 19:29:41] lorestr : txs
[2017-04-08 19:30:18] frog : aethlios: good explanation TY
[2017-04-08 19:31:32] aethlios : anyway is a low return strategy for larger capital. if someone has 5,000 usd to spend much time in order to earn 3% (150 usd in a month maybe doesn't worth it)
[2017-04-08 19:40:29] Nick Leeson : aethlios: That is very risky strategy, because while picking up interest, you are exposed to exchange crashes + while low probability, if price increases rapidly -> margin call, and risk of sudden correction before you buy back long.
[2017-04-08 19:43:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 60 @ 0.00923
[2017-04-08 19:45:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 3950 @ 0.00917
[2017-04-08 19:53:49] jung1 : hello millionaires
[2017-04-08 19:54:35] jung1 : https://twitter.com/CollinCrypto/status/850489755808780288 how is your long on ETC?
[2017-04-08 20:07:21] jung1 : why so quiet here today?
[2017-04-08 20:14:16] shillosopher : weekend?
[2017-04-08 20:17:39] MikeHunt : 4hr nearly reset
[2017-04-08 20:17:47] MikeHunt : march on 1250 can begin
[2017-04-08 20:19:00] jung1 : shillosopher: money never sleeps
[2017-04-08 20:19:27] jung1 : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1027718/
[2017-04-08 20:25:09] vgck : MikeHunt: In your dreams
[2017-04-08 20:26:22] shillosopher : jung1: I'm gonna watch that again tonight. ty
[2017-04-08 20:28:47] jung1 : imo monday-tuesday will be pump
[2017-04-08 20:28:59] jung1 : but still pretty safe bet
[2017-04-08 20:31:17] aethlios : jung1: low volatility low chat traffic, it is all volatility related.
[2017-04-08 20:31:48] KyllingLolsson : aethlios: wich means? curious
[2017-04-08 20:32:36] jung1 : aethlios: yeah. I used to bigger traffic on bitmex
[2017-04-08 20:33:01] jung1 : since 200 users till 3rd biggest exchange
[2017-04-08 20:33:08] jung1 : live long bitmex
[2017-04-08 20:33:12] jung1 : <3
[2017-04-08 20:34:02] efoghorjos : What the difference between XBT, mXBT and XBt Satoshi?
[2017-04-08 20:34:54] rapidtrades : aethlios: market is pricing in china withdrawals by june
[2017-04-08 20:35:32] rapidtrades : our june 1157 their june 1122
[2017-04-08 20:35:33] BitMEX_John : efoghorjos: mXBT is a thousandth of a bitcoin
[2017-04-08 20:35:45] BitMEX_John : efoghorjos: a satoshi is a millionth
[2017-04-08 20:36:19] BitMEX_John : efoghorjos: its a matter of preference for which unit you like bitcoin to be displayed in
[2017-04-08 20:36:59] efoghorjos : Thanks for the clarifications
[2017-04-08 20:37:47] rapidtrades : really weird timing for that bitvc ban though
[2017-04-08 20:37:58] rapidtrades : maybe only btcc is insolvent
[2017-04-08 20:39:34] rapidtrades : BTC ppl are way too comfortable, not pricing in anything right now
[2017-04-08 20:40:10] rapidtrades : that news alone should've crashed prices cos it opens the door for okc ban and maybe even bitmex ban?
[2017-04-08 20:40:30] j8 : bitvc is huobi
[2017-04-08 20:40:39] rapidtrades : ah
[2017-04-08 20:40:53] rapidtrades : always thought it was btcc
[2017-04-08 20:41:21] BitMEX_John : rapidtrades: a few people have mentioned this about BitMEX, we are a Seychelles incorporated entity so not effected
[2017-04-08 20:41:35] rapidtrades : so u only live in HK or what
[2017-04-08 20:42:01] Dnavid : jung1: 3rd largest exchange? How is swaps comparable to other exchanges?
[2017-04-08 20:42:05] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_John: you're wrong about the satoshi unit
[2017-04-08 20:42:07] Apocalyptic : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_(unit)
[2017-04-08 20:42:09] Nick Leeson : BitMEX_John: Don't you mean a Satoshi is a one hundred millionth XBT.
[2017-04-08 20:42:17] Apocalyptic : ^ yes
[2017-04-08 20:43:11] BitMEX_John : @Apocalyptic @Nick Leeson apologies, you guys are right, I was getting mixed up with uBTC, which isn't a measurement we use on our exchange regardless
[2017-04-08 20:43:14] rapidtrades : well good that huobi is the one having problems cos they're a major LTC player
[2017-04-08 20:43:24] BitMEX_John : Thanks for picking that up :)
[2017-04-08 20:43:56] aethlios : rapidtrades: huobi and okcoin have interests in china and can be pushed by china gov. to follow the safe policy. but HK companies don't obey to china rules.
[2017-04-08 20:44:22] jung1 : Dnavid: during bitcoin rally bitmex was 3rd biggest exchange by volume
[2017-04-08 20:44:30] rapidtrades : are they being 'pushed' or insolvent?
[2017-04-08 20:44:43] BitMEX_John : efoghorjos: please note what @Nick Leeson said, a satoshi is one hundred millionth of a bitcoin
[2017-04-08 20:44:44] rapidtrades : clearly that AML reason given at the time was bullshit
[2017-04-08 20:44:45] mahouni : aethlios: lol things have changed drastically in HK in past 5-10 years
[2017-04-08 20:44:51] rapidtrades : so some scam is afoot here
[2017-04-08 20:45:26] rapidtrades : i think smone was insolvent like huobi and they wanted to give them time to gather money or smth
[2017-04-08 20:45:40] rapidtrades : clearly the plan is not working
[2017-04-08 20:45:42] efoghorjos : Okay, noted. Thanks
[2017-04-08 20:46:20] rapidtrades : PUMP IT https://hacked.com/time-watch-zcash/
[2017-04-08 20:50:08] jung1 : zcash will migrate to ethereum till end of the year
[2017-04-08 20:51:37] aethlios : take a look at zclassic and zen fork, a very nice and still cheap zcash competitor
[2017-04-08 20:52:39] rapidtrades : jung1: wat
[2017-04-08 20:52:54] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: he's trolling obviously
[2017-04-08 20:52:57] rapidtrades : WHAT?
[2017-04-08 20:53:19] Apocalyptic : even sleger wouldn't have said that
[2017-04-08 21:03:39] jung1 : till the end of the year zcash will have 1:1 tokens on ethereum
[2017-04-08 21:11:19] 123abc : you gotta assume big money wants to get in the best anon coin
[2017-04-08 21:11:26] 123abc : ZEC
[2017-04-08 21:11:43] 123abc : XMR trying to go up too
[2017-04-08 21:12:16] shillosopher : lol zec with trusted setup is best anon coin?
[2017-04-08 21:12:36] rapidtrades : aethlios: if segwit is never activiated on LTC will u get out?
[2017-04-08 21:12:40] Apocalyptic : shillosopher: I like your nick
[2017-04-08 21:12:55] shillosopher : Apocalyptic: haha thx
[2017-04-08 21:13:13] rapidtrades : they're still missing %6 and they lost the momentum
[2017-04-08 21:13:24] rapidtrades : f2pool support is very flakey
[2017-04-08 21:13:59] rapidtrades : could drop a lot if not activated soon
[2017-04-08 21:14:07] rapidtrades : markets don't wait forever for these things
[2017-04-08 21:14:21] aethlios : rapidtrades: i will get out of the trade when i think no more profit is to be done. but already coins are offering income, also can be used as collateral in finex polo to trade other coins or arb.
[2017-04-08 21:14:27] rapidtrades : lot of pumpers are out for quick cash
[2017-04-08 21:14:42] rapidtrades : u can't keep their interest with stagnating price
[2017-04-08 21:15:32] rapidtrades : its already up 160% ur pushing ur luck with this trade
[2017-04-08 21:15:37] aethlios : rapidtrades: SW is 99.5% sure thing, CL said in a month afret SW he can run LN on ltc. then companies and services will want to deal with ltc to transfer money.
[2017-04-08 21:15:40] rapidtrades : u got fooled by that 1 day gains
[2017-04-08 21:15:55] rapidtrades : lol 99.5% sure
[2017-04-08 21:16:04] rapidtrades : ur so delusional
[2017-04-08 21:16:32] aethlios : community presure now huge. when next period starts, new pools will start signaling.
[2017-04-08 21:16:36] rapidtrades : staying in this trade will be the worst decision u made in 2017
[2017-04-08 21:16:44] rapidtrades : f*ck community
[2017-04-08 21:16:47] rapidtrades : f*ck em
[2017-04-08 21:16:52] rapidtrades : do they run miners? no
[2017-04-08 21:17:01] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: worse than your 800 short?
[2017-04-08 21:17:22] rapidtrades : trolls on reddit that can't rub two pennies together and longing 33/1 LTC on bitmex is not a 'community'
[2017-04-08 21:17:30] rapidtrades : its just chumps out for quick cash
[2017-04-08 21:18:26] aethlios : rapidtrades: if miners don't obey, CL will enforce UASF and users will decide. and users are 99.5% SW funs. Devs want SW, 70% of miners want SW. so no SW because 5% of miners will block it?? won't happen.
[2017-04-08 21:18:44] rapidtrades : ur math is off
[2017-04-08 21:18:48] rapidtrades : 100-70=30%
[2017-04-08 21:19:09] rapidtrades : if CL tries to enforce SW f2pool will bail for sure
[2017-04-08 21:19:20] rapidtrades : they're already on the fence as is
[2017-04-08 21:19:30] aethlios : 75% needed, so 70% is 93.35% SW adoption from miners.
[2017-04-08 21:19:48] rapidtrades : signalling now means nothing tho
[2017-04-08 21:20:01] rapidtrades : they could do it just to not have users leave
[2017-04-08 21:20:23] rapidtrades : once it reaches 75% and stays there for few days we'll see who is really pro-segwit
[2017-04-08 21:20:36] aethlios : rapidtrades: CL can stick an asic protected algo fork to their ass and make gpu's get on fire again. and their scrypt machines to worth shit next morning.
[2017-04-08 21:20:38] frog : rapidtrades: do you think it is a good time to short LTC now?
[2017-04-08 21:20:43] rapidtrades : thta's when f2pool will bail and u will lose 2/3
[2017-04-08 21:20:48] rapidtrades : frog: no
[2017-04-08 21:21:51] aethlios : frog: he is short from 4.35 and won't us bulls to sell to reduce his loss. already prays for a loan from jew bankers.
[2017-04-08 21:22:37] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: is swap funding not raping you too much these days ?
[2017-04-08 21:22:51] aethlios : soon rapid homeless with a sign: LOST ALL IN LTC SHORT.
[2017-04-08 21:23:41] rapidtrades : no i have a stop out level
[2017-04-08 21:23:48] rapidtrades : i will never be homeless
[2017-04-08 21:23:52] rapidtrades : AGAIN
[2017-04-08 21:24:33] vgck : You're short from 4 and you haven't hit your stop yet? What's your stop $13?
[2017-04-08 21:24:42] vgck : Do you have a stop for you btc short too?
[2017-04-08 21:24:46] aethlios : rapidtrades: you can become multi home owner and rent to others if stop shorting ltc and come with our side.
[2017-04-08 21:25:04] rapidtrades : vgck: no
[2017-04-08 21:26:34] rapidtrades : i have an equity stop for both...if it goes below X I will stop trading for 6 months
[2017-04-08 21:26:43] rapidtrades : cos they're obviously correlated
[2017-04-08 21:27:58] aethlios : rapidtrades: do you have a full time job? or trading for a living?
[2017-04-08 21:28:17] rapidtrades : u know the answer to that bish
[2017-04-08 21:31:08] vgck : rapidtrades: Makes sense, but I still don't understand why you didn't cut your loses. First BTC and now LTC?? At least could've you have opened a long next to your shorts so you could at least profit while waiting for your short targets to get hit?
[2017-04-08 21:31:51] frog : rapidtrades: do you know if there is a reason that miners are not using asicboost already, the overt version not jihan covert one?
[2017-04-08 21:32:20] rapidtrades : public outrage maybe? mining empty blocks is bad PR
[2017-04-08 21:32:45] rapidtrades : vgck: as I said before the LTC short was a mistake...but its too high anyway
[2017-04-08 21:32:54] rapidtrades : so no point in closing nwo
[2017-04-08 21:33:37] rapidtrades : i'll just wait until the shit comes back down to earth, like all altcoins before it
[2017-04-08 21:34:34] frog : its weird asicboost it's supposed to improve mining efficiency by up to 50%
[2017-04-08 21:34:53] aethlios : vgck: when ltc 20 he won't close short because 20 is even higher then 10.
[2017-04-08 21:35:49] aethlios : rapidtrades: no altcoin came down. eth almost at high, dash from 2.5 (like ltc 4,00) is now 65, same monero etc.
[2017-04-08 21:36:29] vgck : aethlios: I mean, as long as he has the margin to support it, why not? He's right that both LTC and BTC are overvalued and this way he's not realizing any loss until he closes.
[2017-04-08 21:36:57] rapidtrades : frog: isn't it 25%?
[2017-04-08 21:37:04] vgck : Everyone called him crazy at 1300, "never see sub 1000 again" but we just saw 800s a couple weeks ago
[2017-04-08 21:37:23] vgck : There's a good chance he'll close both in profit
[2017-04-08 21:37:37] rapidtrades : yeah that bounce right before 880 was clearly bullshit
[2017-04-08 21:37:40] frog : rapidtrades: it seems to allow 25% energy effiency as well
[2017-04-08 21:37:49] rapidtrades : we will revisit that number again for sure
[2017-04-08 21:38:18] rapidtrades : could take weeks or month but that's a target, not support
[2017-04-08 21:38:33] frog : jihan has patent for covert asicboost but his only invention was method to keep it secret
[2017-04-08 21:38:53] rapidtrades : im more worried about my LTC short then BTC, cos they can pump that on margin in the west while china is down
[2017-04-08 21:39:06] aethlios : rapidtrades: better close ltc now, and go then to church and pray that you didn't keep it up to 25.
[2017-04-08 21:39:16] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2017-04-08 21:40:09] aethlios : i don't feel comfortable knowing that part of my profits is your loss.
[2017-04-08 21:40:55] aethlios : you try hard anyway, too bad to lose that easy. should had bought at 4,00.
[2017-04-08 21:41:24] rapidtrades : i don't really try hard , im very lazy
[2017-04-08 21:41:56] frog : aethlios: LTC has been sold quite heavily but price has as only dropped a small amount
[2017-04-08 21:42:05] rapidtrades : im right on both BTC and LTC but there is a chance i will close if they keep going up
[2017-04-08 21:42:12] rapidtrades : cos i set my equity stop
[2017-04-08 21:42:16] shiroe : rapid is just trolling you. he short ltc at 4? didn't close at 5 at leverage? lol
[2017-04-08 21:43:40] rapidtrades : there's no reason for LTC to pump on segwit like its some magic solution
[2017-04-08 21:43:53] rapidtrades : its all hot money from idiots longing BTC and dash before
[2017-04-08 21:44:04] rapidtrades : they don't have a network problem
[2017-04-08 21:44:13] rapidtrades : cos noone uses that dead coin
[2017-04-08 21:44:17] shiroe : chart says pump to 25, half of ATH.
[2017-04-08 21:44:28] shiroe : could be in 3 months time.
[2017-04-08 21:44:42] frog : rapidtrades: no it doesn't make sense
[2017-04-08 21:45:16] shiroe : a single news can pump a coin, except factom as it is highly manipulated.
[2017-04-08 21:45:25] frog : but not sure that being right is profitab;e
[2017-04-08 21:47:16] frog : volume for LTC has increased but possible just transfers to exchanges to gamble
[2017-04-08 21:51:39] aethlios : rapidtrades: you don't know about SW if you think is a block size solution.
[2017-04-08 21:51:51] shiroe : volume on ltc is increasing, we might hit 12 again.
[2017-04-08 21:51:59] rapidtrades : that's all there is yeah
[2017-04-08 21:52:07] rapidtrades : so only useful for bitcoin rn
[2017-04-08 21:52:28] rapidtrades : all of the other shit being brought up is fairy crypto dust
[2017-04-08 21:52:43] rapidtrades : could they be useful? maybe...is there market demand for it? NO
[2017-04-08 21:53:08] rapidtrades : its like ppl bringing up money transfers for bitcoin
[2017-04-08 22:02:34] sleger : how else am I going to send 10k to that nigerian prince who needs it within 3 hours but will return me 1m$ on monday ???
[2017-04-08 22:02:52] sleger : there is need, there is demand (from nigerian princes and others)
[2017-04-08 22:03:09] frog : FYI WellsFargo haven't been served with the TRO yet but have asked the court for chance to explain why it should not be granted
[2017-04-08 22:05:13] frog : WellsFargo are still processing inwards payments for Finex [according to Finex]
[2017-04-08 22:07:56] Powerofgod : How much can I deposit to my account to trading
[2017-04-08 22:08:08] sleger : 123btc
[2017-04-08 22:09:21] Powerofgod : Is that the minimum
[2017-04-08 22:09:36] Apocalyptic : Powerofgod: "The minimum deposit amount is 0.0001 XBT (10000 Satoshi)"
[2017-04-08 22:09:54] Apocalyptic : it's the first thing written below the address on the deposit page
[2017-04-08 22:10:28] Powerofgod : Ok
[2017-04-08 22:11:21] sleger : but you can deposit 123btc if you wish
[2017-04-08 22:12:58] Powerofgod : Thanks,please I also want to ask the leverage value does show or can't it be adjust
[2017-04-08 22:14:04] sleger : there is a slider on the left you can adjust it
[2017-04-08 22:16:58] ronensinger : Tasty, tasty
[2017-04-08 22:17:13] ronensinger : This chop is lovely
[2017-04-08 22:17:52] Apocalyptic : hey @ronensinger, did that tick size change helped your bot ?
[2017-04-08 22:17:53] shiroe : volume is too low, less than 10k. Not a good time to trade / risk position -_-
[2017-04-08 22:23:10] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Yeah
[2017-04-08 22:24:40] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: damn, I suspected otherwise
[2017-04-08 22:31:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 6 @ 0.002315
[2017-04-08 22:31:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 349 @ 0.002315
[2017-04-08 22:39:00] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Can't stump the bot
[2017-04-08 22:39:21] ronensinger : Trying work my wawy back up to the leaderboard
[2017-04-08 22:53:20] rapidtrades : Finex is so full of shit
[2017-04-08 22:53:35] rapidtrades : I'd take Wells Fargo over their side of the story anyway
[2017-04-08 22:53:53] rapidtrades : they have to have good reason to stop their withdrawals
[2017-04-08 22:54:13] rapidtrades : maybe they caught some of their CEOs laundering money or smth
[2017-04-08 22:54:30] rapidtrades : cos they keep pooling their money together in there with customers
[2017-04-08 22:55:20] rapidtrades : we only had to wait 8 months for another major f*ck up from finex...all those equity hodlers must be feeling really good about their investment now
[2017-04-08 22:58:04] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/649ipp/bitcoin_traders_worried_as_bitfinex_wire/
[2017-04-08 22:58:45] frog : WF are the correspondent bank [for wire trasnfers] for the local Taiwan banks, not BFX's bank. WF's clients in this case are the local taiwanese banks. BFX have KYC for customers who transfer fiat and the Taiwanese banks are happy with this. Be interesting to see what WF's reason is.