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[2017-04-08 14:30:42] rapidtrades : PBOC can't delay this forever
[2017-04-08 14:30:58] Ahhere : laisee: u a beernoisseur?
[2017-04-08 14:31:01] laisee : Actually, they can. CErtainly until Oct
[2017-04-08 14:31:29] laisee : no, a beer snob ... the worst kind
[2017-04-08 14:32:08] sleger : oh the fake news around here.... " rapidtrades: this is clearly a bear market" <= screen upside down again
[2017-04-08 14:32:30] sleger : "rapidtrades: chia shows u the true price cos they have no leverage" <= yeah, right, probably nothing to do with the fact they cant withdraw
[2017-04-08 14:32:35] rapidtrades : go eat cheese u maggot
[2017-04-08 14:32:42] Ahhere : F**k beer guinness is king anyway @laisee
[2017-04-08 14:32:44] sleger : i dont like cheese
[2017-04-08 14:32:53] frog : ra[idtrades is right
[2017-04-08 14:32:59] laisee : Irish guiness, yes.
[2017-04-08 14:33:26] rapidtrades : why don't u short some altcoin again and double down until u blow up?
[2017-04-08 14:33:32] rapidtrades : like that guy on reddit
[2017-04-08 14:33:34] frog : B TC is down from its recent high of 1200
[2017-04-08 14:33:49] frog : and below its ATH
[2017-04-08 14:33:59] sleger : because i assign limited margin to all my short alts
[2017-04-08 14:34:04] sleger : so i know how much i can lose max
[2017-04-08 14:34:18] laisee : below by 2% ... gasp. its all over for BTC ;-)
[2017-04-08 14:34:19] rapidtrades : ur full of shit
[2017-04-08 14:34:21] Ahhere : Yeah had Guinness in central Europe last week let's just say there should be a European directive or maybe jailtime for bad guinness @laisee
[2017-04-08 14:34:29] rapidtrades : having limited gamble doesn't mean u have an edge
[2017-04-08 14:34:34] sleger : XRP7D -5000 5000.00 XRP 0.00003190 0.00003171 0.00006300 + 0.1606 XBT (0.99x)
[2017-04-08 14:34:44] sleger : ^ not on cross
[2017-04-08 14:35:00] frog : maybe 1.5% but iss still down
[2017-04-08 14:35:16] sleger : then i enter positions on signal, so thats where i get the edge, otherwise it would just be gamble indeed
[2017-04-08 14:35:33] laisee : 1.5% is at the low edge of daily vol. in other words ... its noise
[2017-04-08 14:35:44] frog : really...
[2017-04-08 14:36:40] frog : im sure rapidtrades will have a good explanation
[2017-04-08 14:36:51] rapidtrades : sleger: what signal is that?
[2017-04-08 14:37:38] Ahhere : I think today is the day you guise finally get together. Lil kiss @rapidtrades @sleger ??
[2017-04-08 14:38:15] sleger : my own signal sauce based on market data
[2017-04-08 14:39:45] rapidtrades : so secret u don't want to share it huh?
[2017-04-08 14:39:53] rapidtrades : after it said short prices surged 3x
[2017-04-08 14:40:11] rapidtrades : u rly think too highly of urself and the shit u make
[2017-04-08 14:42:20] CrazySteve : I would love to have a beer with everyone in the trollbox. It'd be an interesting night.
[2017-04-08 14:42:32] sleger : looks like you're the one who should revise its trading strategies not me
[2017-04-08 14:43:25] atlanta : rapidtrades: Why so hostile dude ?
[2017-04-08 14:43:30] rapidtrades : tetsuo>everyone (including sleger)>newbs
[2017-04-08 14:43:37] rapidtrades : atlanta: HE F*cKING STARTED IT
[2017-04-08 14:43:39] rapidtrades : ODU READ NEWB
[2017-04-08 14:43:44] atlanta : lol
[2017-04-08 14:43:45] rapidtrades : DO U*
[2017-04-08 14:44:05] CrazySteve : /joke
[2017-04-08 14:44:06] trollbot : ``` What do you call a Mexican midget? A paragraph cause he isn't a full essay ```
[2017-04-08 14:47:10] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 14:47:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 39.33 / 60.67 Daily : 44.42 / 55.58 Weekly : 45.41 / 54.59 Monthly : 50.60 / 49.40```
[2017-04-08 14:51:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 6000 @ 0.00003120
[2017-04-08 14:53:37] etoque : lollllllll
[2017-04-08 14:53:43] etoque : ltc on a edge to dump they sayd?
[2017-04-08 14:54:03] etoque : my ass yes
[2017-04-08 14:54:12] frog : who said?
[2017-04-08 14:54:16] etoque : mark
[2017-04-08 14:54:36] frog : maybe he got that one wrong
[2017-04-08 14:56:19] etoque : now I have to buy fcking mroe higher
[2017-04-08 14:57:37] etoque : damn I hate trading alt here with always stupid high price
[2017-04-08 14:58:06] etoque : go moneroo
[2017-04-08 14:59:23] Papou : who just fat fingered ZEC?
[2017-04-08 14:59:24] Papou : lol
[2017-04-08 15:00:43] etoque : lol
[2017-04-08 15:01:10] sleger : rapid also said ltc was dead
[2017-04-08 15:01:23] sleger : and when it reached 10 that it would go immediately to 9 and 8
[2017-04-08 15:01:43] sleger : just 24 hours ago
[2017-04-08 15:02:15] frog : sleger: rabid has interrsting views, i cant follow his logic sometimes
[2017-04-08 15:02:32] sleger : probably better for you
[2017-04-08 15:02:41] sleger : otherwise you'd be short ltc at 5 and btc at 800
[2017-04-08 15:02:44] etoque : in fact ltc just forming giant cup and handle for a pump to 40 lol
[2017-04-08 15:03:06] frog : that would be pretty bad
[2017-04-08 15:04:18] etoque : Just hope they gonna dump it a bit before
[2017-04-08 15:04:27] etoque : shouldn't have close my long yesterday ughhhhh
[2017-04-08 15:05:17] Ahhere : etoque: which long u close babes?
[2017-04-08 15:05:22] Ahhere : Ltc?
[2017-04-08 15:05:32] etoque : yeahhhhhh
[2017-04-08 15:05:38] Ahhere : Upps
[2017-04-08 15:05:49] Ahhere : ?
[2017-04-08 15:05:53] etoque : Just think to get mopore monero
[2017-04-08 15:06:10] Ahhere : U think monero has more to go? It's jumped a lot in past year
[2017-04-08 15:06:19] etoque : not like dash lol
[2017-04-08 15:06:24] etoque : or zcash lol
[2017-04-08 15:06:28] Ahhere : It's up 20 or 40x that's more than dash
[2017-04-08 15:06:29] etoque : there's definitively room to growth
[2017-04-08 15:06:30] frog : etoque: at least your not short
[2017-04-08 15:06:47] etoque : Ahhere: what?
[2017-04-08 15:07:07] Ahhere : When was it 50c and dollar again ? A year ago no?
[2017-04-08 15:07:20] etoque : Ahhere: was 2 buck to 20 buck
[2017-04-08 15:07:28] etoque : Ahhere: dash was 2 buck to 100 buck
[2017-04-08 15:07:30] etoque : lol
[2017-04-08 15:09:02] Ahhere : When was it a dollar 2 years?
[2017-04-08 15:09:22] etoque : 2 years lol
[2017-04-08 15:09:29] Ahhere : I sold my dash for monero when dash was 3 or 4 dollars and monero was under a dollar ok 2 years
[2017-04-08 15:10:19] Ahhere : I think monero is less established. No trezor etc
[2017-04-08 15:10:28] etoque : chart is good
[2017-04-08 15:10:48] etoque : price have 40 buck difference and 200m on cap... it'll gonna rise
[2017-04-08 15:11:15] 123abc : bitcoin is sinking
[2017-04-08 15:11:22] etoque : that's a very good news
[2017-04-08 15:11:31] etoque : drunk bitcoin go home
[2017-04-08 15:13:20] Ahhere : etoque: I'm holding but sold half for btc the alt bloodbath will be ugg
[2017-04-08 15:14:29] etoque : no blodbath for alt
[2017-04-08 15:14:33] etoque : bitcoin going 700
[2017-04-08 15:14:52] etoque : btc simply can't handle in technical view higher price
[2017-04-08 15:15:15] etoque : too much stuck confirmation,very slow network,high fee
[2017-04-08 15:15:31] atlanta : Here it comes
[2017-04-08 15:15:36] Vintage : time to go long on eth
[2017-04-08 15:15:40] laisee : BTC break-up value is higher than staying together. We need a corprate raider for crypto.
[2017-04-08 15:15:53] MikeHunt : btc usually doesnt crash slowly like this
[2017-04-08 15:15:57] MikeHunt : it goes after a rise
[2017-04-08 15:16:52] etoque : lol
[2017-04-08 15:16:57] etoque : you're bitcoiner here
[2017-04-08 15:16:59] mahouni : It will take some speed lower then shoot to 1240 and crush all these sure short technical view guys
[2017-04-08 15:17:17] etoque : lolll
[2017-04-08 15:17:28] Nick Leeson : Bitcoin is the main driver for influx of fiat into the ecosystem, if bitcoin long term downtrand starts for bitcoin, alts will follow shortly. I wouldn't worry before we dive below 1170 and it consolidates below this level.
[2017-04-08 15:17:32] etoque : I work alot with people trying to have business with bitcoin but not feseable
[2017-04-08 15:17:38] etoque : You are speculator
[2017-04-08 15:17:42] etoque : not moving your bitcoin
[2017-04-08 15:18:00] MikeHunt : mahouni: i expect a slow dribble to 1150
[2017-04-08 15:18:04] MikeHunt : then shorters get raped
[2017-04-08 15:19:04] mahouni : Maybe, we shall see
[2017-04-08 15:21:34] laisee : ETH is going to bring in more $$$ to crypto thatn BTC
[2017-04-08 15:26:58] rapidtrades : ppl who've been in crypto long time realize this is one giant ponzi
[2017-04-08 15:27:13] rapidtrades : BTC too old and too big to pump
[2017-04-08 15:27:29] rapidtrades : thats only reason why ETH is up so much
[2017-04-08 15:27:38] rapidtrades : its the new ponzi with lowwer market cap
[2017-04-08 15:27:54] rapidtrades : there's no use case that justifies 3bl market cap, its a big joke
[2017-04-08 15:28:01] Dnavid : Only way btc will pump is if BCU goes under 10% BTC decisively, else if BCU rebounds, it's freefall.
[2017-04-08 15:28:18] rapidtrades : /fork
[2017-04-08 15:28:19] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 1043.80 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 110.01 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-04-08 15:28:39] rapidtrades : meh its already priced out
[2017-04-08 15:28:46] rapidtrades : odds are too low in fact
[2017-04-08 15:28:55] rapidtrades : BU will not give up this easily
[2017-04-08 15:33:18] etoque : nice xmr :)
[2017-04-08 15:35:43] ross : lets hope this xrp shite dies today
[2017-04-08 15:37:02] MikeHunt : imo BU is dead
[2017-04-08 15:37:08] MikeHunt : after the asic controversy
[2017-04-08 15:37:15] MikeHunt : core might be nazis but this is a scandal!
[2017-04-08 15:38:14] etoque : this war between classic/*btc is cute
[2017-04-08 15:38:19] Shaman : /prixw
[2017-04-08 15:38:19] Shaman : /price
[2017-04-08 15:38:21] etoque : but from external view btc is doneeeee
[2017-04-08 15:38:23] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1186.61 (-0.59%) Bitfinex : 1189.20 (-0.73%) The Woodchipper : 1180.07 (-0.81%) itBit : 1185.16 (-0.53%) Kraken : 1188.00 (-0.57%) GDAX : 1188.32 (-0.23%) SLQ : 5 hours, 27 mins```
[2017-04-08 15:38:36] rapidtrades : BU can't be dead they have majority of hash power
[2017-04-08 15:38:46] uej : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 15:38:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 72.56 / 27.44 Daily : 45.67 / 54.33 Weekly : 45.26 / 54.74 Monthly : 50.64 / 49.37```
[2017-04-08 15:39:01] 123abc : XMR here we go
[2017-04-08 15:42:25] men : when btc will go down? :(
[2017-04-08 15:46:14] startChat : rapidtrades: signaling means nothing
[2017-04-08 15:49:47] MikeHunt : Perhaps both are dead and as a result btc is too
[2017-04-08 15:49:56] MikeHunt : No reform means a slow death
[2017-04-08 15:57:11] etoque : future is into altcoin
[2017-04-08 15:58:39] Poo : As soon as btc drops some dollars people start bringing out the FUD
[2017-04-08 15:58:55] Poo : sold xmr to early :(
[2017-04-08 15:58:55] atlanta : Here
[2017-04-08 15:58:55] atlanta : we
[2017-04-08 15:58:57] atlanta : fucking
[2017-04-08 15:58:58] atlanta : go
[2017-04-08 15:59:06] atlanta : Right on time.
[2017-04-08 15:59:53] men : xmr buy tim
[2017-04-08 16:00:17] men : cup and handle in play
[2017-04-08 16:00:27] Flomaster : hi
[2017-04-08 16:00:42] men : very bullish
[2017-04-08 16:00:54] etoque : :)))
[2017-04-08 16:01:08] etoque : switching my ltc for xmr wasn't that bad
[2017-04-08 16:01:19] Poo : Well played
[2017-04-08 16:01:47] etoque : love those 30 day contract,I can really wait for a pump now lol
[2017-04-08 16:01:57] men : buy wall on monero
[2017-04-08 16:02:08] men : is building up
[2017-04-08 16:02:26] etoque : next couple day will be interesting
[2017-04-08 16:02:28] etoque : hold imo
[2017-04-08 16:02:41] etoque : 0.02 back n more
[2017-04-08 16:03:16] men : etoque: :) yes will be very interesting
[2017-04-08 16:03:32] men : we all know that when xmr pump is the craziest
[2017-04-08 16:03:56] 123abc : should have longed more at 0.0171 on here
[2017-04-08 16:04:08] etoque : in fact that might be my first ride into a xmr real pump lol lets see
[2017-04-08 16:05:24] men : etoque: :D last cup and handle on monero give the price a x3
[2017-04-08 16:05:30] men : remember?
[2017-04-08 16:06:02] etoque : yes i miss it lol
[2017-04-08 16:06:52] men : etoque: i sold at x2 only..
[2017-04-08 16:07:22] men : look crazy xmr bot on polo @etoque
[2017-04-08 16:07:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 53 @ 0.00943
[2017-04-08 16:07:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1 @ 0.00944
[2017-04-08 16:08:00] men : etoque: mad bot on XMR .. i smell the pump :D
[2017-04-08 16:08:16] etoque : HOLD TIGHT
[2017-04-08 16:08:26] etoque : I have just dust here anyway
[2017-04-08 16:08:35] etoque : but If monero can change my dust into something.. :)
[2017-04-08 16:09:55] 123abc : XMR liftoff starting
[2017-04-08 16:10:06] 123abc : XMR waits till every other altcoin has been pumped before starting
[2017-04-08 16:10:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 50 @ 0.00938
[2017-04-08 16:29:09] Secup : Not sure to underatand the btc block size bet, can some.explain it to me please
[2017-04-08 16:29:31] Secup : Let say i think the block size will increase
[2017-04-08 16:33:32] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 16:33:36] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 50.60 / 49.40 Daily : 46.01 / 53.99 Weekly : 45.21 / 54.79 Monthly : 50.68 / 49.32```
[2017-04-08 16:33:55] 123abc : loving that $22 discount on btc quarterly here
[2017-04-08 16:34:17] 123abc : longers gonna feel the pain in a few hours
[2017-04-08 16:35:11] Boontjie : Secup: it is success or failure
[2017-04-08 16:35:24] Boontjie : Either SegWit gets activated or blocksize increase happens
[2017-04-08 16:36:04] Secup : Ya , but how i process to bet on it
[2017-04-08 16:37:10] Boontjie : well if it successful it settles at 100
[2017-04-08 16:37:18] Boontjie : So if you buy at 50, you make 50
[2017-04-08 16:37:30] Boontjie : if it fails you settle at 0
[2017-04-08 16:37:46] Boontjie : The safest bet where you cannot lose is to short 100
[2017-04-08 16:38:34] Secup : So wheb i sew ppl putting 54
[2017-04-08 16:38:48] Secup : They will get 54 back
[2017-04-08 16:39:06] Boontjie : no, its a difference
[2017-04-08 16:39:30] Boontjie : If you put in money at 54, you get a 100 back (i.e. profit of 45) on success
[2017-04-08 16:39:35] Boontjie : and lose it all on failure
[2017-04-08 16:40:02] heheh lo : have u guys read about ASICBOOST
[2017-04-08 16:40:13] Boontjie : To be honest this is the best binary I have ever seen, they are designed to make you lose money
[2017-04-08 16:40:33] Secup : I see
[2017-04-08 16:40:52] Boontjie : profit of 46
[2017-04-08 16:40:54] Boontjie : sorry, typo
[2017-04-08 16:41:02] Secup : I guess ill continue to short btc
[2017-04-08 16:41:12] heheh lo : https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/asicboost-the-reason-why-bitmain-blocked-segwit-901fd346ee9f
[2017-04-08 16:41:34] Boontjie : Secup: You are more likely to make money
[2017-04-08 16:41:38] Boontjie : :)
[2017-04-08 16:42:42] Secup : Hehe
[2017-04-08 16:44:49] Poo : So when you put in a limit order you get a rebate if it gets filled?
[2017-04-08 16:47:14] Poo : Every time my orders get filled i get a positive realised amount
[2017-04-08 16:47:43] L9 : Poo: True
[2017-04-08 16:48:18] L9 : I have an open long position, how to stop trailing stop to protect profits
[2017-04-08 16:48:34] L9 : How to set trailing sell stop I meam
[2017-04-08 16:52:24] hmmmYea : is anyone else excited for all the increased security from asicboost?
[2017-04-08 16:55:48] 123abc : 30% increase
[2017-04-08 17:02:18] Poo : L9: I have no idea, would love to know tho if anyone does? New to bitmex and do like this system so far
[2017-04-08 17:06:13] BitMEX_Sam : L9: Poo: Select Trailing Stop from the top-left order menu.
[2017-04-08 17:07:08] L9 : The red btton isn't active. I am in long @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-04-08 17:07:21] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, use a negative trail
[2017-04-08 17:07:28] BitMEX_Sam : Hover over `Trail Value` for more
[2017-04-08 17:08:13] L9 : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks!!!
[2017-04-08 17:10:47] lorestr : BitMEX_Sam: is any limit order acting as maker from fee perspective? for I see limit orders executed and accounted as taker fee
[2017-04-08 17:13:03] uej : How long is duration on btc/USD contracts?
[2017-04-08 17:14:01] BitMEX_Sam : lorestr: It depends on whether or not it executes immediately after placement
[2017-04-08 17:14:06] L9 : @lorestr Read carefully about the post-only tick
[2017-04-08 17:14:27] BitMEX_Sam : lorestr: You get the maker rebate only if your order does not execute immediately when placed. It has to create visible liquidity
[2017-04-08 17:14:39] BitMEX_Sam : uej: XBTUSD is perpetual, the other contracts are quarterly
[2017-04-08 17:14:55] lorestr : BitMEX_Sam: what is immediately? 5 milisec, 5 sec. 5 min, 5h, 5 dayts?
[2017-04-08 17:14:56] BitMEX_Sam : Some contracts are weekly. See `Expiry Date` on the bottom left of your screen when a contract is active.
[2017-04-08 17:15:07] BitMEX_Sam : lorestr: As in, it executes against a resting order
[2017-04-08 17:15:13] BitMEX_Sam : So immediately is literally "immediately"
[2017-04-08 17:15:33] BitMEX_Sam : If it hits the book first then someone else executes against it 10ms later, you get the maker rebate and they pay the taker fee.
[2017-04-08 17:15:36] lorestr : my not immediately and still as taker fee
[2017-04-08 17:15:40] lorestr : why?
[2017-04-08 17:15:44] sleger : wrong
[2017-04-08 17:15:47] sleger : fake news
[2017-04-08 17:15:54] BitMEX_Sam : Was it a hidden order?
[2017-04-08 17:16:32] lorestr : no
[2017-04-08 17:16:49] cg : do hidden orders have non-standard fee?
[2017-04-08 17:17:11] BitMEX_Sam : cg: Hidden orders don't create visible liquidity, so they are charged the taker fee when they execute
[2017-04-08 17:17:15] uej : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 17:17:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.69 / 55.31 Daily : 45.74 / 54.26 Weekly : 45.16 / 54.84 Monthly : 50.70 / 49.30```
[2017-04-08 17:17:24] cg : I see
[2017-04-08 17:18:25] cg : what happens when there is a market order against a hidden order? both pay taker fee?
[2017-04-08 17:22:16] BitMEX_Sam : Correct, in that case both sides would.
[2017-04-08 17:34:18] flux : BitMEX_Sam: How come your withdraw fees are so high. 0.003 is way too high even when the network is backed up
[2017-04-08 17:34:56] flux : Id rather not pay extra money to miners who are already blocking segwit
[2017-04-08 17:47:10] etoque : luv u xmr
[2017-04-08 17:47:24] 123abc : xmr
[2017-04-08 17:47:25] 123abc : <3
[2017-04-08 17:47:33] etoque : how you do that caracter lol
[2017-04-08 17:47:39] etoque : ❤
[2017-04-08 17:47:40] etoque : ah
[2017-04-08 17:47:50] 123abc : anon coin the future
[2017-04-08 17:47:58] etoque : yes :)
[2017-04-08 17:48:34] j8 : market order against a hidden order gets the maker rebate
[2017-04-08 17:51:23] 123abc : arg
[2017-04-08 17:51:31] 123abc : didnt increase leverage and long more
[2017-04-08 17:57:59] 123abc : keep dumping into the xmr polo pump n00bs
[2017-04-08 17:58:21] 123abc : probably badly coded bots
[2017-04-08 18:13:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 43 @ 0.017808
[2017-04-08 18:15:42] 123abc : okc quarterly dumping a bit
[2017-04-08 18:16:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1183.0
[2017-04-08 18:16:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150 @ 1182.7
[2017-04-08 18:20:25] 123abc : bitfinex taking down BTC price
[2017-04-08 18:21:01] atlanta : Here we go
[2017-04-08 18:22:25] rapidtrades : alts up bitcoin down
[2017-04-08 18:23:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7000 @ 1179.7
[2017-04-08 18:23:54] rapidtrades : so f*cking overpriced
[2017-04-08 18:23:59] rapidtrades : crash already
[2017-04-08 18:25:23] 123abc : etc pumping too
[2017-04-08 18:25:59] men : DCR will be big in the coming days
[2017-04-08 18:26:42] 123abc : https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_dcr
[2017-04-08 18:26:44] 123abc : good eye
[2017-04-08 18:28:03] 123abc : nice XMR
[2017-04-08 18:28:04] Diplomata : /price
[2017-04-08 18:28:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1178.54 (-0.68%) Bitfinex : 1178.30 (-0.92%) The Woodchipper : 1177.00 (-0.26%) itBit : 1177.90 (-0.61%) Kraken : 1175.26 (-1.07%) GDAX : 1183.76 (-0.38%) SLQ : 2 hours, 49 mins```
[2017-04-08 18:33:57] L9 : BitMEX_Sam: Guys, are you planning to implement features supporting opening more than one position on the same type contracts?
[2017-04-08 18:34:12] men : 123abc: DCR will have lightning network and all the feature users will vote
[2017-04-08 18:34:22] rapidtrades : ridiculous, its gonna go up for weeks then lose all gains in 3 days
[2017-04-08 18:34:40] rapidtrades : completely unable to price in risk
[2017-04-08 18:34:41] men : LN is the first DCR will have after hardfork voting
[2017-04-08 18:34:58] rapidtrades : lot of stupid ppl came in this market during the bull run
[2017-04-08 18:35:32] rapidtrades : then the dumbshit will be like 'hur so sad! bitcorns only go down on FUD!''
[2017-04-08 18:35:49] rapidtrades : maybe if u idiots were smart u would start to price in that FUD before u lose 30%
[2017-04-08 18:36:08] rapidtrades : instead of trampling over each other to exit
[2017-04-08 18:38:20] cg : It is priced in. Lots of ppl are short. As soon as any scaling solution is insight, prepare for a 100‰ move.
[2017-04-08 18:38:54] cg : Meanwhile, adoption slowly pushes up price creating this irrational seeming market. IMO
[2017-04-08 18:39:47] vgck : There is zero adoption
[2017-04-08 18:41:46] 123abc : nice DCR is the future
[2017-04-08 18:42:41] 123abc : i dont get how you can be anti BTC on this site
[2017-04-08 18:42:55] 123abc : we're all working towards getting more BTC so a higher BTC price is awesome
[2017-04-08 18:43:37] MikeHunt : 123abc: he is short
[2017-04-08 18:46:36] rapidtrades : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/israeli-bomb-hoax-teen-bitcoin-on-dark-web/
[2017-04-08 18:47:02] uej : /sentiment
[2017-04-08 18:47:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 83.75 / 16.25 Daily : 50.37 / 49.63 Weekly : 45.52 / 54.48 Monthly : 50.77 / 49.23```
[2017-04-08 18:50:20] aethlios : rapidtrades: ltc strong, consolidation for a rally to 20 once LN is up and running?? SW is sure.
[2017-04-08 18:50:22] rapidtrades : https://themerkle.com/wells-fargo-blocks-180m-in-funds-belonging-to-ifinex-and-tether-customers/
[2017-04-08 18:50:36] rapidtrades : aethlios: yeah yeah whatever
[2017-04-08 18:51:04] rapidtrades : another f*ck up by finex
[2017-04-08 18:51:20] rapidtrades : possible they locked the funds on request of US regulators
[2017-04-08 18:52:34] rapidtrades : they're taking wells fargo to court LOOOL thats rich from an exchange that trolled users into not suing few months ago
[2017-04-08 18:53:03] rapidtrades : once my net worth hits X amount i will sue everyone
[2017-04-08 18:53:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100003 @ 1177.9 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-08 18:53:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 9 @ 1177.7
[2017-04-08 18:53:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 25000 @ 1176.7
[2017-04-08 18:53:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1400 @ 1176.2
[2017-04-08 18:54:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 1175.3
[2017-04-08 18:54:22] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2017-04-08 18:54:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 1174.5
[2017-04-08 18:54:43] rapidtrades : also this from yday https://themerkle.com/hong-kong-based-bitvc-exchange-suspends-btc-and-ltc-withdrawals/
[2017-04-08 18:54:53] shiroe : panic at the disco again.
[2017-04-08 18:55:52] shiroe : 200 dollar drop i see.
[2017-04-08 18:55:53] atlanta : Rapid
[2017-04-08 18:55:56] atlanta : How far you see this going ?
[2017-04-08 18:56:08] rapidtrades : break of 890
[2017-04-08 18:56:10] bingbongfly : we are bouncing in 1 hour
[2017-04-08 18:56:13] bingbongfly : back to 1250$
[2017-04-08 18:56:24] shillosopher : bingbongfly: proof?
[2017-04-08 18:56:26] atlanta : what makes you think so bingbong
[2017-04-08 18:56:29] shiroe : probably 1k again.
[2017-04-08 18:56:31] shiroe : oh boy.
[2017-04-08 18:56:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1500 @ 1148.3
[2017-04-08 18:56:53] shiroe : which coin to buy? xrp? lol
[2017-04-08 18:56:56] shillosopher : btc trendline broken , going under it?
[2017-04-08 18:56:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150 @ 1171.1
[2017-04-08 18:56:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 2000 @ 1147.6
[2017-04-08 18:57:10] bingbongfly : atlanta: it's what always happens
[2017-04-08 18:57:20] bingbongfly : but maybe this time is different. TM
[2017-04-08 19:00:59] rapidtrades : @aethlios still waiting to buy BTC?
[2017-04-08 19:01:28] aethlios : rapidtrades: i bought ltc, why to buy btc??
[2017-04-08 19:01:56] aethlios : rapidtrades: i have 127.5K long hedges swap and happily earn the funding.
[2017-04-08 19:02:41] aethlios : rapidtrades: large daily income for a greek!!!
[2017-04-08 19:03:38] Nick Leeson : shillosopher: still above EMA on long term charts, no death cross yet, resistance level at 1170. Should below 1170 and stay there for a day, before I'll start to see long term uptrend under siege, and below long term EMA (currently around 1120-1150 depending on parameters) before its confirmed.
[2017-04-08 19:04:16] binacoin : /price
[2017-04-08 19:04:18] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1174.00 (-0.39%) Bitfinex : 1174.80 (-0.30%) The Woodchipper : 1174.40 (-0.22%) itBit : 1172.73 (-0.44%) Kraken : 1174.00 (-0.11%) GDAX : 1176.89 (-0.58%) SLQ : 36 mins```
[2017-04-08 19:04:49] Poo : long term uptrend is not undersiege until much lower me thinks like 1000s
[2017-04-08 19:04:57] Poo : why is xrp not moving?
[2017-04-08 19:07:03] frog : Nick Leeson: nice analysis
[2017-04-08 19:07:24] shiroe : so the news is usd cashout is frozen, make sense if we go up higher on btc? but we see a sell off. hmmm weird.
[2017-04-08 19:08:01] shillosopher : Nick Leeson: analysis appreciated, ty
[2017-04-08 19:15:00] frog : shiroe: news came out a couple of days ago
[2017-04-08 19:15:10] aethlios : rapidtrades: are we transitioning from the 8year btc standard to the ethereum standard??
[2017-04-08 19:19:34] binacoin : /price
[2017-04-08 19:19:36] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1173.16 (-0.07%) Bitfinex : 1176.00 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1174.30 (-0.01%) itBit : 1173.64 (0.08%) Kraken : 1175.97 (0.17%) GDAX : 1179.62 (0.23%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-04-08 19:20:23] lorestr : aethlios: can you explain your btc long hedge
[2017-04-08 19:22:58] aethlios : long swap and margin short finex or short june when it was in premium.
[2017-04-08 19:23:25] aethlios : long and short have equal usd value so i don't have market risk.
[2017-04-08 19:24:04] aethlios : this is a bear market strategy.
[2017-04-08 19:24:05] lorestr : aethlios: what finex margin used? what interest you pay so bitmex swap long overpay
[2017-04-08 19:24:33] aethlios : lorestr: i borrowed for 25 days with 0.03% daily.
[2017-04-08 19:25:28] aethlios : so i bet bitmex swap will pay in variable interest rates more then 0.03% (fixed interest) i pay in finex.
[2017-04-08 19:25:33] lorestr : aethlios: there were days you made loss, for here not allways >0.03 daily
[2017-04-08 19:25:54] aethlios : lorestr: i have that 3 to 4 days now.
[2017-04-08 19:26:05] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-08 19:26:39] lorestr : aethlios: what leverage used
[2017-04-08 19:27:20] aethlios : lorestr: leverage doesn't matter, just have safe liquidation prices and move funds to add margin when needed.
[2017-04-08 19:27:51] aethlios : notional amount is important. this is a low return strategy but no risk.
[2017-04-08 19:28:04] lorestr : aethlios: so I try to estimate what is safe...10x or more
[2017-04-08 19:28:14] aethlios : so i bet to earn 3% to 4% in a month if btc goes to 900
[2017-04-08 19:28:52] aethlios : lorestr: finex has up to 3.3x so can't go above.
[2017-04-08 19:29:02] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-08 19:29:06] aethlios : but need to have funds in both exchanges.
[2017-04-08 19:29:15] lorestr : sure
[2017-04-08 19:29:26] aethlios : so basically is like 1.5x
[2017-04-08 19:29:37] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-08 19:29:41] lorestr : txs
[2017-04-08 19:30:18] frog : aethlios: good explanation TY
[2017-04-08 19:31:32] aethlios : anyway is a low return strategy for larger capital. if someone has 5,000 usd to spend much time in order to earn 3% (150 usd in a month maybe doesn't worth it)
[2017-04-08 19:40:29] Nick Leeson : aethlios: That is very risky strategy, because while picking up interest, you are exposed to exchange crashes + while low probability, if price increases rapidly -> margin call, and risk of sudden correction before you buy back long.
[2017-04-08 19:43:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 60 @ 0.00923
[2017-04-08 19:45:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 3950 @ 0.00917
[2017-04-08 19:53:49] jung1 : hello millionaires
[2017-04-08 19:54:35] jung1 : https://twitter.com/CollinCrypto/status/850489755808780288 how is your long on ETC?
[2017-04-08 20:07:21] jung1 : why so quiet here today?
[2017-04-08 20:14:16] shillosopher : weekend?
[2017-04-08 20:17:39] MikeHunt : 4hr nearly reset
[2017-04-08 20:17:47] MikeHunt : march on 1250 can begin
[2017-04-08 20:19:00] jung1 : shillosopher: money never sleeps
[2017-04-08 20:19:27] jung1 : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1027718/
[2017-04-08 20:25:09] vgck : MikeHunt: In your dreams
[2017-04-08 20:26:22] shillosopher : jung1: I'm gonna watch that again tonight. ty
[2017-04-08 20:28:47] jung1 : imo monday-tuesday will be pump
[2017-04-08 20:28:59] jung1 : but still pretty safe bet
[2017-04-08 20:31:17] aethlios : jung1: low volatility low chat traffic, it is all volatility related.
[2017-04-08 20:31:48] KyllingLolsson : aethlios: wich means? curious
[2017-04-08 20:32:36] jung1 : aethlios: yeah. I used to bigger traffic on bitmex
[2017-04-08 20:33:01] jung1 : since 200 users till 3rd biggest exchange
[2017-04-08 20:33:08] jung1 : live long bitmex
[2017-04-08 20:33:12] jung1 : <3
[2017-04-08 20:34:02] efoghorjos : What the difference between XBT, mXBT and XBt Satoshi?
[2017-04-08 20:34:54] rapidtrades : aethlios: market is pricing in china withdrawals by june
[2017-04-08 20:35:32] rapidtrades : our june 1157 their june 1122
[2017-04-08 20:35:33] BitMEX_John : efoghorjos: mXBT is a thousandth of a bitcoin
[2017-04-08 20:35:45] BitMEX_John : efoghorjos: a satoshi is a millionth
[2017-04-08 20:36:19] BitMEX_John : efoghorjos: its a matter of preference for which unit you like bitcoin to be displayed in
[2017-04-08 20:36:59] efoghorjos : Thanks for the clarifications
[2017-04-08 20:37:47] rapidtrades : really weird timing for that bitvc ban though
[2017-04-08 20:37:58] rapidtrades : maybe only btcc is insolvent
[2017-04-08 20:39:34] rapidtrades : BTC ppl are way too comfortable, not pricing in anything right now
[2017-04-08 20:40:10] rapidtrades : that news alone should've crashed prices cos it opens the door for okc ban and maybe even bitmex ban?
[2017-04-08 20:40:30] j8 : bitvc is huobi
[2017-04-08 20:40:39] rapidtrades : ah
[2017-04-08 20:40:53] rapidtrades : always thought it was btcc
[2017-04-08 20:41:21] BitMEX_John : rapidtrades: a few people have mentioned this about BitMEX, we are a Seychelles incorporated entity so not effected
[2017-04-08 20:41:35] rapidtrades : so u only live in HK or what
[2017-04-08 20:42:01] Dnavid : jung1: 3rd largest exchange? How is swaps comparable to other exchanges?
[2017-04-08 20:42:05] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_John: you're wrong about the satoshi unit
[2017-04-08 20:42:07] Apocalyptic : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_(unit)
[2017-04-08 20:42:09] Nick Leeson : BitMEX_John: Don't you mean a Satoshi is a one hundred millionth XBT.
[2017-04-08 20:42:17] Apocalyptic : ^ yes
[2017-04-08 20:43:11] BitMEX_John : @Apocalyptic @Nick Leeson apologies, you guys are right, I was getting mixed up with uBTC, which isn't a measurement we use on our exchange regardless
[2017-04-08 20:43:14] rapidtrades : well good that huobi is the one having problems cos they're a major LTC player
[2017-04-08 20:43:24] BitMEX_John : Thanks for picking that up :)
[2017-04-08 20:43:56] aethlios : rapidtrades: huobi and okcoin have interests in china and can be pushed by china gov. to follow the safe policy. but HK companies don't obey to china rules.
[2017-04-08 20:44:22] jung1 : Dnavid: during bitcoin rally bitmex was 3rd biggest exchange by volume
[2017-04-08 20:44:30] rapidtrades : are they being 'pushed' or insolvent?
[2017-04-08 20:44:43] BitMEX_John : efoghorjos: please note what @Nick Leeson said, a satoshi is one hundred millionth of a bitcoin
[2017-04-08 20:44:44] rapidtrades : clearly that AML reason given at the time was bullshit
[2017-04-08 20:44:45] mahouni : aethlios: lol things have changed drastically in HK in past 5-10 years
[2017-04-08 20:44:51] rapidtrades : so some scam is afoot here
[2017-04-08 20:45:26] rapidtrades : i think smone was insolvent like huobi and they wanted to give them time to gather money or smth
[2017-04-08 20:45:40] rapidtrades : clearly the plan is not working
[2017-04-08 20:45:42] efoghorjos : Okay, noted. Thanks
[2017-04-08 20:46:20] rapidtrades : PUMP IT https://hacked.com/time-watch-zcash/
[2017-04-08 20:50:08] jung1 : zcash will migrate to ethereum till end of the year
[2017-04-08 20:51:37] aethlios : take a look at zclassic and zen fork, a very nice and still cheap zcash competitor
[2017-04-08 20:52:39] rapidtrades : jung1: wat
[2017-04-08 20:52:54] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: he's trolling obviously
[2017-04-08 20:52:57] rapidtrades : WHAT?
[2017-04-08 20:53:19] Apocalyptic : even sleger wouldn't have said that
[2017-04-08 21:03:39] jung1 : till the end of the year zcash will have 1:1 tokens on ethereum
[2017-04-08 21:11:19] 123abc : you gotta assume big money wants to get in the best anon coin
[2017-04-08 21:11:26] 123abc : ZEC
[2017-04-08 21:11:43] 123abc : XMR trying to go up too
[2017-04-08 21:12:16] shillosopher : lol zec with trusted setup is best anon coin?
[2017-04-08 21:12:36] rapidtrades : aethlios: if segwit is never activiated on LTC will u get out?
[2017-04-08 21:12:40] Apocalyptic : shillosopher: I like your nick
[2017-04-08 21:12:55] shillosopher : Apocalyptic: haha thx
[2017-04-08 21:13:13] rapidtrades : they're still missing %6 and they lost the momentum
[2017-04-08 21:13:24] rapidtrades : f2pool support is very flakey
[2017-04-08 21:13:59] rapidtrades : could drop a lot if not activated soon
[2017-04-08 21:14:07] rapidtrades : markets don't wait forever for these things
[2017-04-08 21:14:21] aethlios : rapidtrades: i will get out of the trade when i think no more profit is to be done. but already coins are offering income, also can be used as collateral in finex polo to trade other coins or arb.
[2017-04-08 21:14:27] rapidtrades : lot of pumpers are out for quick cash
[2017-04-08 21:14:42] rapidtrades : u can't keep their interest with stagnating price
[2017-04-08 21:15:32] rapidtrades : its already up 160% ur pushing ur luck with this trade
[2017-04-08 21:15:37] aethlios : rapidtrades: SW is 99.5% sure thing, CL said in a month afret SW he can run LN on ltc. then companies and services will want to deal with ltc to transfer money.
[2017-04-08 21:15:40] rapidtrades : u got fooled by that 1 day gains
[2017-04-08 21:15:55] rapidtrades : lol 99.5% sure
[2017-04-08 21:16:04] rapidtrades : ur so delusional
[2017-04-08 21:16:32] aethlios : community presure now huge. when next period starts, new pools will start signaling.
[2017-04-08 21:16:36] rapidtrades : staying in this trade will be the worst decision u made in 2017
[2017-04-08 21:16:44] rapidtrades : f*ck community
[2017-04-08 21:16:47] rapidtrades : f*ck em
[2017-04-08 21:16:52] rapidtrades : do they run miners? no
[2017-04-08 21:17:01] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: worse than your 800 short?
[2017-04-08 21:17:22] rapidtrades : trolls on reddit that can't rub two pennies together and longing 33/1 LTC on bitmex is not a 'community'
[2017-04-08 21:17:30] rapidtrades : its just chumps out for quick cash
[2017-04-08 21:18:26] aethlios : rapidtrades: if miners don't obey, CL will enforce UASF and users will decide. and users are 99.5% SW funs. Devs want SW, 70% of miners want SW. so no SW because 5% of miners will block it?? won't happen.
[2017-04-08 21:18:44] rapidtrades : ur math is off
[2017-04-08 21:18:48] rapidtrades : 100-70=30%
[2017-04-08 21:19:09] rapidtrades : if CL tries to enforce SW f2pool will bail for sure
[2017-04-08 21:19:20] rapidtrades : they're already on the fence as is
[2017-04-08 21:19:30] aethlios : 75% needed, so 70% is 93.35% SW adoption from miners.
[2017-04-08 21:19:48] rapidtrades : signalling now means nothing tho
[2017-04-08 21:20:01] rapidtrades : they could do it just to not have users leave
[2017-04-08 21:20:23] rapidtrades : once it reaches 75% and stays there for few days we'll see who is really pro-segwit
[2017-04-08 21:20:36] aethlios : rapidtrades: CL can stick an asic protected algo fork to their ass and make gpu's get on fire again. and their scrypt machines to worth shit next morning.
[2017-04-08 21:20:38] frog : rapidtrades: do you think it is a good time to short LTC now?
[2017-04-08 21:20:43] rapidtrades : thta's when f2pool will bail and u will lose 2/3
[2017-04-08 21:20:48] rapidtrades : frog: no
[2017-04-08 21:21:51] aethlios : frog: he is short from 4.35 and won't us bulls to sell to reduce his loss. already prays for a loan from jew bankers.
[2017-04-08 21:22:37] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: is swap funding not raping you too much these days ?
[2017-04-08 21:22:51] aethlios : soon rapid homeless with a sign: LOST ALL IN LTC SHORT.
[2017-04-08 21:23:41] rapidtrades : no i have a stop out level
[2017-04-08 21:23:48] rapidtrades : i will never be homeless
[2017-04-08 21:23:52] rapidtrades : AGAIN
[2017-04-08 21:24:33] vgck : You're short from 4 and you haven't hit your stop yet? What's your stop $13?
[2017-04-08 21:24:42] vgck : Do you have a stop for you btc short too?
[2017-04-08 21:24:46] aethlios : rapidtrades: you can become multi home owner and rent to others if stop shorting ltc and come with our side.
[2017-04-08 21:25:04] rapidtrades : vgck: no
[2017-04-08 21:26:34] rapidtrades : i have an equity stop for both...if it goes below X I will stop trading for 6 months
[2017-04-08 21:26:43] rapidtrades : cos they're obviously correlated
[2017-04-08 21:27:58] aethlios : rapidtrades: do you have a full time job? or trading for a living?
[2017-04-08 21:28:17] rapidtrades : u know the answer to that bish
[2017-04-08 21:31:08] vgck : rapidtrades: Makes sense, but I still don't understand why you didn't cut your loses. First BTC and now LTC?? At least could've you have opened a long next to your shorts so you could at least profit while waiting for your short targets to get hit?
[2017-04-08 21:31:51] frog : rapidtrades: do you know if there is a reason that miners are not using asicboost already, the overt version not jihan covert one?
[2017-04-08 21:32:20] rapidtrades : public outrage maybe? mining empty blocks is bad PR
[2017-04-08 21:32:45] rapidtrades : vgck: as I said before the LTC short was a mistake...but its too high anyway
[2017-04-08 21:32:54] rapidtrades : so no point in closing nwo
[2017-04-08 21:33:37] rapidtrades : i'll just wait until the shit comes back down to earth, like all altcoins before it
[2017-04-08 21:34:34] frog : its weird asicboost it's supposed to improve mining efficiency by up to 50%
[2017-04-08 21:34:53] aethlios : vgck: when ltc 20 he won't close short because 20 is even higher then 10.
[2017-04-08 21:35:49] aethlios : rapidtrades: no altcoin came down. eth almost at high, dash from 2.5 (like ltc 4,00) is now 65, same monero etc.