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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-04-07 14:37:14] KyllingLolsson : Y [2017-04-07 14:37:15] KyllingLolsson : A [2017-04-07 14:37:16] KyllingLolsson : T [2017-04-07 14:37:18] sleger : BAN [2017-04-07 14:37:21] lorestr : KyllingLolsson: PYDER ty [2017-04-07 14:37:36] lorestr : sleger: gpo to mom and cry [2017-04-07 14:37:37] CrazySteve : KyllingLolsson: not in front of the kids please [2017-04-07 14:39:39] veritas : /sentiment [2017-04-07 14:39:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 31.73 / 68.27 Daily : 36.59 / 63.41 Weekly : 45.55 / 54.45 Monthly : 50.73 / 49.27``` [2017-04-07 14:40:11] KyllingLolsson : Cmon btc. Do something. [2017-04-07 14:40:28] Ahhere : Maybe someone should poke it with a stick [2017-04-07 14:40:30] lorestr : KyllingLolsson: it will kill shorts [2017-04-07 14:41:12] lorestr : with banana stick [2017-04-07 14:41:23] KyllingLolsson : You sell when there is buyers, and buy when there is sellers? [2017-04-07 14:41:34] lorestr : KyllingLolsson: noooo [2017-04-07 14:41:39] KyllingLolsson : Not buy when there is buyers [2017-04-07 14:42:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 29 @ 0.00854 [2017-04-07 14:42:28] lorestr : no don't buy when no trend [2017-04-07 14:42:38] lorestr : same sell [2017-04-07 14:43:05] BSTrader : Есть желающие инвестировать 1 биток и получить 3? [2017-04-07 14:43:13] KyllingLolsson : Well i have only a small position so i wont get rekt [2017-04-07 14:43:23] lorestr : BSTrader: da [2017-04-07 14:43:29] lorestr : kak eto rabotajet [2017-04-07 14:43:54] KyllingLolsson : Snail Putin [2017-04-07 14:43:56] Ahhere : #hatespeech [2017-04-07 14:44:24] lorestr : putkin just sold 1btc [2017-04-07 14:44:32] lorestr : wow [2017-04-07 14:44:40] lorestr : fucking shorter [2017-04-07 14:44:41] sleger : troll [2017-04-07 14:44:56] lorestr : sleger: itold u go to mom and suck [2017-04-07 14:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.00003217 [2017-04-07 14:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 5000 @ 0.00003218 [2017-04-07 14:45:11] BSTrader : lorestr: Суть такая. Я умею торговать и зарабатывать и мне не терпиться ждать, копить свои. Поэтому предлагаю инвестировать всего 1 биток, когда наторгую 5 или 6 отдам 3. Себе оставлю остальное. [2017-04-07 14:45:24] sleger : dont feed that troll [2017-04-07 14:45:32] Ahhere : that belongs in the chinese section guise [2017-04-07 14:45:47] sleger : *sucktion [2017-04-07 14:45:51] lorestr : BSTrader: xuy ty trader [2017-04-07 14:46:04] KyllingLolsson : Any mods around?? [2017-04-07 14:46:20] KyllingLolsson : Useth thy mod power [2017-04-07 14:46:22] Ahhere : no japanese here [2017-04-07 14:46:43] lorestr : do they buy property with btc? [2017-04-07 14:46:52] KyllingLolsson : I.. I.. Dont get it [2017-04-07 14:46:52] BitMEX_John : KyllingLolsson: yes :) [2017-04-07 14:47:12] sleger : BitMEX_John: you lost your banhammer ? [2017-04-07 14:47:20] Ahhere : hoorah for justice [2017-04-07 14:47:22] KyllingLolsson : Oh i was just joking around @BitMEX_John [2017-04-07 14:47:29] BitMEX_John : sleger: who needs to go? ;) [2017-04-07 14:47:34] sleger : everyone [2017-04-07 14:47:39] sleger : let's start clean [2017-04-07 14:47:40] BitMEX_John : KyllingLolsson: haha no worries :) [2017-04-07 14:47:43] KyllingLolsson : The russians!! [2017-04-07 14:47:45] BitMEX_John : sleger: haha [2017-04-07 14:48:34] KyllingLolsson : BitMEX_John: make btc do something [2017-04-07 14:48:42] lorestr : I will eat fish fingers [2017-04-07 14:48:47] KyllingLolsson : Run a script [2017-04-07 14:48:53] sleger : fish dont have fingers [2017-04-07 14:48:55] lorestr : sleger eats nothing [2017-04-07 14:49:13] hmmmYea : BitMEX_John: do extension blocks cause the big block binary to resolve yes? [2017-04-07 14:49:33] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: let me check with the team [2017-04-07 14:49:42] hmmmYea : ty [2017-04-07 14:49:46] Nick Leeson : BitMEX_John: Hi - every number related to balance is rounded with 4 decimals - is that only a visibility thing, or is this also done in underlying code? [2017-04-07 14:49:53] rapidtrades : last chance to get smth for the worthless litecoins [2017-04-07 14:49:54] lorestr : sleger do u want snicker? [2017-04-07 14:49:59] rapidtrades : back below $10, this wont end well [2017-04-07 14:50:59] BitMEX_John : Nick Leeson: underlying code goes down to satoshi, you can change your bitcoin denomination on your preferences page https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences [2017-04-07 14:51:19] Ahhere : rapidtrades: may satoshilite forgive you [2017-04-07 14:51:34] Nick Leeson : BitMEX_John: Ah, thanks, just looked for it, but didn't find it. Will look again. [2017-04-07 14:52:19] BSTrader : CrazySteve: привет. инвестировать не желаешь? [2017-04-07 14:52:33] lorestr : BSTrader: idi nachuy [2017-04-07 14:52:35] BitMEX_John : Nick Leeson: is the first item in the link above, under General -> Currency [2017-04-07 14:53:07] BSTrader : lorestr: мда, пишешь мне если есть вопросы писать тебе т посылаешь [2017-04-07 14:53:20] BSTrader : и посылаешь* [2017-04-07 14:53:35] Ahhere : lorestr: @BSTrader למה אנחנו מדברים עברית? [2017-04-07 14:53:44] lorestr : BSTrader: ty ze tyt krast prishol vor blia [2017-04-07 14:53:44] sleger : why dont they use the chinese trollbox ? [2017-04-07 14:53:50] Clock : /rekt [2017-04-07 14:53:50] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 26 hours, 44 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 211848 @ 1175.80 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 34 hours, 38 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 103046 @ 1156.80 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 35 hours, 35 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 108838 @ 1149.00 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` [2017-04-07 14:54:00] BSTrader : lorestr: нет [2017-04-07 14:54:04] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: most likely it would not [2017-04-07 14:54:19] lorestr : Ahhere: no worry, buy btc [2017-04-07 14:54:43] lorestr : putin just tried platform [2017-04-07 14:55:15] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: as per the contract specification it will settle at yes in the case of the MAX_BLOCK_BASE_SIZE increasing - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/c0ddd32bf629bb48426b0651def497ca1a78e6b1/src/consensus/consensus.h#L16 [2017-04-07 14:55:19] Ahhere : lorestr: is he angry with trump? [2017-04-07 14:55:26] lorestr : yes [2017-04-07 14:55:29] lorestr : mad [2017-04-07 14:55:33] Ahhere : i knew it [2017-04-07 14:55:38] jeeburns : how common is it to be auto deleveraged? happened to me the other day in xrp afraid of it happening again lol [2017-04-07 14:55:57] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: during large up or down swings it is more likely to happen [2017-04-07 14:56:05] lorestr : jeeburns: its when they want your money but not all at once [2017-04-07 14:56:26] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: the best way to reduce the chances of it happening is to lower your leverage [2017-04-07 14:57:09] hmmmYea : BitMEX_John: thanks! [2017-04-07 14:57:17] lorestr : putin sold 0.6btc again [2017-04-07 14:57:20] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: no worries :) [2017-04-07 14:57:35] lorestr : trump need to buy 1.2btc [2017-04-07 14:58:18] BSTrader : Есть кому не жалко 1 биток инвестировать? [2017-04-07 14:58:19] lorestr : go go , snicker go [2017-04-07 14:59:04] lorestr : BST stands for bull shit Trader [2017-04-07 14:59:38] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: I can't lower it atm cuz i'm on cross, basically went all in, so if I close some contracts then click like 5x or 10x will that help? [2017-04-07 15:00:26] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: if you are on cross the best way to reduce the chance of ADL is to make your position smaller [2017-04-07 15:00:39] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: u know what happened to btcdjs? Haven’t seen him for a while [2017-04-07 15:00:46] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: if it deleverages me will it close my whole position or a portion? [2017-04-07 15:00:55] lorestr : KyllingLolsson: dead [2017-04-07 15:01:06] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: it is possible for part of your position to be ADL'd [2017-04-07 15:01:07] KyllingLolsson : lorestr: troll [2017-04-07 15:01:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 1 @ 0.056355 [2017-04-07 15:01:23] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: ok because a few days ago my whole position was closed [2017-04-07 15:01:25] lorestr : KyllingLolsson: scroll [2017-04-07 15:01:52] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: when you are ADL'd we are closing a position in liquidation on the other side, we only ADL the amount of contracts required to close the other side [2017-04-07 15:02:12] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: yes, that is also possible [2017-04-07 15:02:26] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: ahh ok gotcha. Does that have anything to do with the orders in red? [2017-04-07 15:02:41] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: do you know how the five bar indicator system works? [2017-04-07 15:02:55] robit : BitMEX_John: Hey, I've read the FAQ about swap funding but I don't fully understand it. What's the main factor that's causing the negative funding for over a week now? [2017-04-07 15:03:02] jeeburns : yes it is fully lit up atm [2017-04-07 15:03:34] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: could you give me an idea of how often this actually happens? even ballpark [2017-04-07 15:03:48] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: no, the orders in red are not ADL, that is just the liquidation engine closing the position, ADL is the last resort for the liquidation engine if the position cannot be closed in the orderbook [2017-04-07 15:04:10] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: each bar represents 20% so if all 5 bars are lit up you are in the top 20% of orders in the ADL queue [2017-04-07 15:05:07] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: Ok, so this doesn't happen that often? Just torn between closing some of my position or letting it ride and hope it doesn't auto close [2017-04-07 15:05:09] BitMEX_John : robit: the swap has generally been trading at a discount to the index, so the funding fee seeks to penalise short positions and incentivise long positions [2017-04-07 15:05:20] BSTrader : lorestr: а ты торгуешь на бирже? [2017-04-07 15:05:37] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: if you are ADL'd it will be in profit [2017-04-07 15:06:00] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: but one option as mentioned earlier is to simply reduce the size of your position if you fear ADL [2017-04-07 15:06:48] robit : BitMEX_John: I get that part. But I'm not sure how its possible considering we've been in a bull trend for nearly 2 weeks. Wouldn't this cause the swap to trade above the mark? [2017-04-07 15:07:11] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: yea i'm just not sure how often it occurs is the thing [2017-04-07 15:07:49] BitMEX_John : robit: if you see right now the contract is trading at 1188 and the index is 1191, for the past week it has been at a discount most of the time, even though the price has been moving up [2017-04-07 15:08:06] ronensinger : Funding is killing me [2017-04-07 15:08:08] ronensinger : Gosh [2017-04-07 15:09:26] lorestr : trump just bougt 0.999btc [2017-04-07 15:09:57] justinlooking : wut [2017-04-07 15:10:07] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: it can be hard to predict it depends on the volatility [2017-04-07 15:10:50] robit : BitMEX_John: Yeah I noticed that. It's just strange that its been doing that for over a week, considering the price has been consistently rising. [2017-04-07 15:11:41] BitMEX_John : robit: the June future is still at a fair discount which indicates that the market may still be somewhat bearish [2017-04-07 15:12:19] BitMEX_John : robit: but historically speaking it is strange to have a negative funding fee during a bull run like this [2017-04-07 15:13:00] robit : BitMEX_John: Which is also strange, becuase OKC is at a $30 premium. [2017-04-07 15:13:29] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-04-07 15:13:32] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 41.96 / 58.04 Daily : 36.74 / 63.26 Weekly : 45.41 / 54.59 Monthly : 50.71 / 49.29``` [2017-04-07 15:13:38] KyllingLolsson : Woop woop [2017-04-07 15:14:08] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: ok thanks, I'll just wait it out and re-enter if it does close [2017-04-07 15:16:14] BSTrader : есть кто тут еще, кто пишет по русски? [2017-04-07 15:16:35] LetsTP : I am on demo account now and begginer : my question : When I'm trying to sell 50k XRP , why do I have at open position -30 XRP only and at ORDER the other 50 k , then it gets deleted and I remain with only -30 xrp position . [2017-04-07 15:16:43] BSTrader : дам прогноз на неделю взамен на 1 биткоин [2017-04-07 15:16:59] LetsTP : I open -50 k XRP sell with Cross leverage , and my account has 2.2 btc [2017-04-07 15:18:06] BitMEX_John : LetsTP: perhaps your order was partially filled? [2017-04-07 15:18:44] BitMEX_John : LetsTP: you can see your trade history here it may show a 30 XRP trade https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory [2017-04-07 15:22:48] lorestr : up, good vol, down low vol, any idea why? long btc [2017-04-07 15:23:04] LetsTP : I am on test account . I try to open from Market -> 25k Ripple SELL -> Cross Leverage -> Order Value0.7747 XBT Available Balance2.2823 XBT , ok ? Then I click sell and it says 10 contract sold , 20 contracts sold , then 25k XRP Order Canceled [2017-04-07 15:23:04] lorestr : last week I said 1200 no one believed [2017-04-07 15:23:29] LetsTP : and then my open position is only -36 xrp instead of -25k , what is happening ? [2017-04-07 15:23:58] lorestr : now I say 1230-40 this weekend [2017-04-07 15:25:41] lorestr : go trump go [2017-04-07 15:25:49] lorestr : kill putin [2017-04-07 15:27:29] shiroe : any news on xrp? i'm one hour late. lol [2017-04-07 15:27:52] BitMEX_John : LetsTP: I've had a look at testnet and the issue is there isn't enough XRP in the orderbook [2017-04-07 15:28:15] BSTrader : o whom to earn money? [2017-04-07 15:28:25] BitMEX_John : LetsTP: when you place a market order it attempts to execute the order immediately but because there are no orders left in the book the order is cancelled [2017-04-07 15:28:32] BSTrader : To whom to earn money? [2017-04-07 15:29:17] LetsTP : Ok @BitMEX_John , so what should I do to sell 50k xrp or whatever I want ? [2017-04-07 15:29:30] LetsTP : so I can get an instant execution [2017-04-07 15:30:18] LetsTP : this is my style of trading and that s what I want : to sell or buy at the EXACT moment I want and the exact Price , because Timing is everything in this bussiness [2017-04-07 15:30:42] BitMEX_John : LetsTP: you cannot get an instant execution if there is not enough orders in the orderbook, you will have to place a limit order in this instance [2017-04-07 15:31:37] rapidtrades : my stomach hurts after the teeth cleaning...is this normal [2017-04-07 15:32:18] sleger : its the stress, happens to pussies [2017-04-07 15:32:25] BitMEX_John : LetsTP: if you take a look at the orderbook on the main website you will see there is enough liquidity to satisfy your 50,000 XRP order https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XRP7D [2017-04-07 15:32:46] rapidtrades : sleger: that's right, i trade for a living and i get stressed at the dentist [2017-04-07 15:32:46] rapidtrades : idiot [2017-04-07 15:33:05] hmmmYea : LetsTP: just hit the bid. 50k ripple aint shit [2017-04-07 15:33:14] sleger : you were afraid of a cleening yesterday so .... dummy @rapidtrades [2017-04-07 15:33:28] sleger : also you're not supposed to swallow the dental floss [2017-04-07 15:34:03] rapidtrades : i wasn't afraid, i just don't like pain [2017-04-07 15:34:16] rapidtrades : and my teeth are really sensitive in lot of places [2017-04-07 15:34:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 4100 @ 0.00003130 [2017-04-07 15:35:22] rapidtrades : things don't look for LTC [2017-04-07 15:36:19] rapidtrades : prolly f2pool selling his stash before announnching the change [2017-04-07 15:36:49] rapidtrades : they did it before the segwit announcement too, insider trading [2017-04-07 15:37:13] rapidtrades : now doing it backwards [2017-04-07 15:41:10] LetsTP : BitMEX_John: oh so I have to look at order book .. ok .. but it isn t working, maybe because I am on test account and there aren t enough orders ? [2017-04-07 15:41:11] 123abc : Longing segwit [2017-04-07 15:43:29] BitMEX_John : LetsTP: that's correct the orderbook on the testnet is very thin, but the orderbook on the main site will handle a 50K XRP market order fine [2017-04-07 15:46:21] rapidtrades : @sleger thoughts on new instruments? [2017-04-07 15:47:46] sleger : no leverage, limited upside, capital blocked for 8 months, not very interested [2017-04-07 15:49:56] rapidtrades : so no bids/asks? [2017-04-07 15:50:21] sleger : if it trades a lot, maybe i'll do some light mm but no i dont think so [2017-04-07 15:51:00] rapidtrades : litecorners last chance to jump train to nowhere [2017-04-07 15:51:28] rapidtrades : looks established below $10 [2017-04-07 15:51:41] Ahhere : rapidtrades: wait i thought this was the last chance [2017-04-07 15:51:43] Ahhere : [2017-04-07 15:51:00] rapidtrades : litecorners last chance to jump train to nowhere [2017-04-07 15:52:01] rapidtrades : i just posted that moran [2017-04-07 15:52:14] Ahhere : hold on.. ill find it [2017-04-07 15:52:15] rapidtrades : 8.xx coming soon [2017-04-07 15:52:17] Ahhere : wait... [2017-04-07 15:52:18] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: maybe he is in the matrix [2017-04-07 15:52:32] rapidtrades : WELL PRICES ARE LOWER THEN WHEN I SAID THE OTHER THING AREN'T THEY? [2017-04-07 15:52:50] rapidtrades : told u to sell at $10 [2017-04-07 15:52:55] rapidtrades : now its $9.6 [2017-04-07 15:53:04] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: you should have said penultimate chance last time [2017-04-07 15:53:06] rapidtrades : pretty much efffed at tis point [2017-04-07 15:53:11] Ahhere : This one [2017-04-06 21:18:42] rapidtrades : maybe ur last chance to dump high [2017-04-07 15:53:22] rapidtrades : i was right tho [2017-04-07 15:53:37] rapidtrades : its gone down a lot since then [2017-04-07 15:54:07] 123abc : Ltc back down [2017-04-07 15:54:41] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-04-07 15:54:43] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 41.15 / 58.85 Daily : 36.20 / 63.80 Weekly : 45.68 / 54.32 Monthly : 50.69 / 49.31``` [2017-04-07 15:57:07] lorestr : show me rekts >1200 [2017-04-07 15:57:16] lorestr : will be yammy [2017-04-07 15:58:09] sleger : *yUmmy [2017-04-07 15:59:06] lorestr : sleger: want sneker [2017-04-07 15:59:26] sleger : oh got it, you're just a slow person, sorry [2017-04-07 15:59:28] hmmmYea : do people put there stops at round numbers as often as they do regular finance? [2017-04-07 15:59:49] hmmmYea : their* [2017-04-07 15:59:51] hmmmYea : dang [2017-04-07 15:59:53] lorestr : hmmmYea: no, idiots don't put stops [2017-04-07 16:00:10] sleger : why dont you put stops ? [2017-04-07 16:00:20] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: ok I closed my position then reopened at 10x and all my bars are still lit up? [2017-04-07 16:00:28] hmmmYea : lorestr: i dont understand what that group of words is meant to communicate [2017-04-07 16:00:35] lorestr : sleger: my stop is 1500 [2017-04-07 16:00:54] lorestr : is it round? [2017-04-07 16:00:57] sleger : oh you're short [2017-04-07 16:01:02] lorestr : like round 5? [2017-04-07 16:01:11] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: cross leverage will be better for keeping your ADL chances down [2017-04-07 16:01:14] lorestr : I am boxer [2017-04-07 16:01:25] lorestr : bum bum [2017-04-07 16:01:32] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: the lower your leverage the lower you will be in the ADL queue [2017-04-07 16:02:05] jeeburns : BitMEX_John: what?? That is what I said before. I said I was cross. You said to lower your leverage, so I closed my positioned and reopened lol [2017-04-07 16:02:07] lorestr : sleger: wanna box for sniker? [2017-04-07 16:02:20] lorestr : u get kicker [2017-04-07 16:02:25] lorestr : :D [2017-04-07 16:02:25] sleger : please speak engrish [2017-04-07 16:02:32] Ahhere : Enklish not gudd [2017-04-07 16:02:51] lorestr : Ahhere: what English? btc-lish? [2017-04-07 16:03:15] sleger : at least try to be funny, this is just dumb [2017-04-07 16:03:35] lorestr : sleger: what is dumb, like rekt or megarekt? [2017-04-07 16:03:55] lorestr : go to mom and pee [2017-04-07 16:04:05] hmmmYea : mods! [2017-04-07 16:04:06] sleger : can we ban this idiot ? [2017-04-07 16:04:10] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: sorry if I caused any confusion, I think I said to lower your position size [2017-04-07 16:04:50] LetsTP : What are the exact fees , i mean the Unrealised PNL stars on - everytime , how do I calculate it when opening a position? [2017-04-07 16:04:58] BitMEX_John : jeeburns: if you are on cross the only other thing you can do to lower your position in the ADL queue is to lower the size of your position :) [2017-04-07 16:05:40] jeeburns : I said I had "cross" position, I just read you said that is the best option coupled with lowering position size. Will keep that in mind ugh, live and learn [2017-04-07 16:06:36] justinlooking : jeeburns: u can register second account and trade positions backwards and forwards to avoid ADL [2017-04-07 16:07:19] LetsTP : what is ADL [2017-04-07 16:07:26] sleger : a /joke [2017-04-07 16:08:11] hmmmYea : /price [2017-04-07 16:08:25] hmmmYea : im still banned from the trollbot? [2017-04-07 16:08:28] hmmmYea : what is this garbagfe [2017-04-07 16:08:37] hmmmYea : testuo is a terrible trollbot mod [2017-04-07 16:08:47] sleger : who would have guessed [2017-04-07 16:08:56] hmmmYea : fair point [2017-04-07 16:08:59] sleger : farzad is an 18y old joke [2017-04-07 16:09:09] j8 : /unban hmmmYea [2017-04-07 16:09:09] trollbot : ``` hmmmyea has been unbanned``` [2017-04-07 16:09:19] hmmmYea : oh sweet. thanks! [2017-04-07 16:09:20] hmmmYea : /price [2017-04-07 16:09:22] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1193.00 (0.43%) Bitfinex : 1195.10 (0.43%) The Woodchipper : 1192.03 (1.16%) itBit : 1194.61 (0.64%) Kraken : 1196.00 (0.72%) GDAX : 1196.99 (0.69%) SLQ : 3 hours, 51 mins``` [2017-04-07 16:09:29] sleger : j8: im banned again ! [2017-04-07 16:09:34] j8 : /unban sleger [2017-04-07 16:09:42] sleger : im banned forever [2017-04-07 16:09:46] hmmmYea : testuo banned everyone yesterday [2017-04-07 16:09:51] sleger : without EVER abusing the bot [2017-04-07 16:09:57] sleger : this place is a joke [2017-04-07 16:10:03] j8 : i think you abused the bot owner :) [2017-04-07 16:10:06] sleger : /joke [2017-04-07 16:10:07] trollbot : ``` Why was Six afraid of Seven? Because Seven ate nine grams of bath salts and then killed all of the other numbers.``` [2017-04-07 16:10:21] LetsTP : ha [2017-04-07 16:10:44] LetsTP : what a junkie is Seven [2017-04-07 16:13:07] lorestr : . [2017-04-07 16:16:26] Ahhere : Rapidtrades: has made me sad with his LTC cyber bullying. [2017-04-07 16:16:33] Ahhere : Its like he wants it to go down [2017-04-07 16:17:05] LetsTP : guys do you want to see a very nice technical analysis of LTC ? [2017-04-07 16:17:13] sleger : no [2017-04-07 16:17:34] Ahhere : LetsTP: only if its very nice [2017-04-07 16:17:44] hmmmYea : LetsTP: definitely not [2017-04-07 16:18:05] LetsTP : it was made on 29-30 March before the LTC price went up , and the guy predicted exactly this move . [2017-04-07 16:18:09] LetsTP : as you wish :D [2017-04-07 16:18:32] Ahhere : ? ? ? voted down sadly [2017-04-07 16:18:40] rapidtrades : lol at sleger bitching over getting bot banned [2017-04-07 16:18:41] hmmmYea : http://kiddynamitesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/esh2-chart1.gif [2017-04-07 16:19:11] rapidtrades : petition the UN for this grave injustice [2017-04-07 16:19:28] sleger : LetsTP: lottery winners didnt really "predict" the numbers coming out [2017-04-07 16:20:23] hmmmYea : http://www.priceactionlab.com/Blog/2015/02/the-bactrian-camel-pattern-a-significant-discovery/ [2017-04-07 16:21:56] sleger : hmmmYea: sounds legit, we'll pay attention to that pattern from now on [2017-04-07 16:22:07] sleger : I'm sure mark123 already has it in his book [2017-04-07 16:22:31] hmmmYea : i cant wait to show him [2017-04-07 16:22:33] hmmmYea : tbh [2017-04-07 16:23:33] hmmmYea : the real bet is when i show him does he.... [2017-04-07 16:23:44] hmmmYea : A; realize bactrian camel is fake [2017-04-07 16:23:59] hmmmYea : B: assert that the market has not formed a bactrian camel, so i am an idiot [2017-04-07 16:24:34] sleger : C: thank you for adding to his TA skills [2017-04-07 16:24:34] rapidtrades : actually there's a pattern in there but its no the camel [2017-04-07 16:24:47] hmmmYea : lol [2017-04-07 16:25:30] sleger : I think I can see it too [2017-04-07 16:25:33] LetsTP : Ahhere: only for you -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_E_BIpxfD8&index=1&list=PLnnuw1tbcBjTKa2m0_I9wNZsnDfzeXUs0&t=285s [2017-04-07 16:26:03] sleger : it's an inversed persian cat with the tail up ? [2017-04-07 16:26:31] rapidtrades : no the humps are irrelevant to the pattern [2017-04-07 16:28:33] rapidtrades : if Trump doesn't deliver soon risk is going to take major tumble [2017-04-07 16:29:01] hmmmYea : deliver what? [2017-04-07 16:29:19] rapidtrades : tax reform mainly [2017-04-07 16:29:26] binacoin : /sentiment [2017-04-07 16:29:27] rapidtrades : infrastructure too [2017-04-07 16:29:29] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 37.66 / 62.34 Daily : 36.24 / 63.76 Weekly : 45.56 / 54.45 Monthly : 50.69 / 49.31``` [2017-04-07 16:30:04] LetsTP : Where do I see the trollbot cmds [2017-04-07 16:30:14] sleger : LetsTP: press F1 [2017-04-07 16:30:21] hmmmYea : yea i guess. [2017-04-07 16:30:52] hmmmYea : US economy has been humming for a while now [2017-04-07 16:31:11] hmmmYea : as long as it stays that... i think US markets will do fine [2017-04-07 16:32:14] hmmmYea : i think it was all the old racist geezers who had gone to cash bc they animus to obama made them believe in an eminent economic collapse... and now they are all fully invested again [2017-04-07 16:32:45] hmmmYea : thats my hot take on the "trump rally" [2017-04-07 16:33:35] hmmmYea : fuck me.. imminent... not eminent! [2017-04-07 16:33:43] aethlios : sleger: hello!! did you hear about bitvc banning all withdrawals? i withdrew all from okcoin futures. what did you do?? better to be out from there until china thing is reolved. [2017-04-07 16:33:52] mark121 : ya thats like a retard telling us about quantum mechanics [2017-04-07 16:34:05] mark121 : bactrian camel is nicie tho [2017-04-07 16:34:30] mark121 : reminds me of the double headed horse delighted snake reversal [2017-04-07 16:34:48] hmmmYea : /ban mark123 [2017-04-07 16:34:52] sleger : aethlios: hey, no i didnt see that, i withdrew everything from bitvc a month ago [2017-04-07 16:36:12] binacoin : /sentiment [2017-04-07 16:36:15] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 38.52 / 61.48 Daily : 36.26 / 63.74 Weekly : 45.55 / 54.45 Monthly : 50.68 / 49.32``` [2017-04-07 16:36:18] aethlios : sleger: https://www.bitvc.com/notice/content?id=107&istop=1 so i am afraid okcoin can do the same, both are HK based. [2017-04-07 16:36:28] sleger : good point, thanks [2017-04-07 16:37:33] hmmmYea : i hope the bitmex team has their go bags ready [2017-04-07 16:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 37775 @ 1169.3 [2017-04-07 16:39:55] Ahhere : Is bitmex hk based just like those, or technically not? @sleger @aethlios [2017-04-07 16:40:05] hmmmYea : Ahhere: seychelles [2017-04-07 16:41:07] hmmmYea : i was not being serious... maybe not a funnt thing to joke about. sorry all [2017-04-07 16:42:27] zqooN : don't be to serious in a trollbox [2017-04-07 16:42:35] zqooN : too* [2017-04-07 16:42:36] mark121 : pussy [2017-04-07 16:43:09] aethlios : Ahhere: seychelles based th ecompany [2017-04-07 16:44:09] hmmmYea : BitMEX_John: can i put in a suggestion for a parlay mkt on the binary futures, SW+big block [2017-04-07 16:44:30] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: sure, it will be passed onto the team :) [2017-04-07 16:44:34] hmmmYea : ty [2017-04-07 16:45:30] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: how do you suggest this would work? [2017-04-07 16:46:37] hmmmYea : BitMEX_John: if SW = YES and BLOCKS = YES then "SW+BLOCKS" = YES [2017-04-07 16:46:54] hmmmYea : a third contract. [2017-04-07 16:47:28] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: cool, and what would the benefit of being able to trade this contract give over just going long/short both of the existing contracts? [2017-04-07 16:47:29] hmmmYea : basically speculating on whether the SW+2MB compromise is accepted or SW+4 or 8 [2017-04-07 16:47:51] klee : BitMEX_John: we need to know daily volume in btc for every trading pair (in order to see which are the most liquid) [2017-04-07 16:47:53] aethlios : https://twitter.com/BitcoinTrezor/status/850337221714595840 trezor supports ltc. coinbase adds ltc [2017-04-07 16:48:15] arbitrage101 : hallo [2017-04-07 16:48:19] arbitrage101 : nice steak i just had [2017-04-07 16:48:26] arbitrage101 : ribeye again [2017-04-07 16:48:26] BitMEX_John : klee: it's in the bottom left hand corner of the trade page under "24H Turnover" [2017-04-07 16:48:34] klee : we need a summary [2017-04-07 16:48:40] klee : in a table or soemthing [2017-04-07 16:48:45] klee : if this is possible [2017-04-07 16:48:53] klee : like you do in Polo with just one look [2017-04-07 16:49:13] arbitrage101 : aethlios: i didnt know there is a country named seychelles before i come here [2017-04-07 16:49:28] klee : also, it says volume in contracts [2017-04-07 16:49:34] klee : I prefer to see in btc [2017-04-07 16:49:41] klee : (not to do the math every time) [2017-04-07 16:49:42] hmmmYea : BitMEX_John: blocks is a bet on 2MB or 4MB or bitcoin unlimited... the parlay would be a bet that essentially the hong kong agreement or something close to it is reached. [2017-04-07 16:49:43] BitMEX_John : klee: hover over it and it changes to XBT [2017-04-07 16:50:06] klee : oh great [2017-04-07 16:50:07] klee : thx [2017-04-07 16:50:18] aethlios : arbitrage101: it is nice for holidays to spend bitmex profits. [2017-04-07 16:50:20] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: sure, but what benefit is there to trading that third contract over just trading both the existing contracts? [2017-04-07 16:50:55] arbitrage101 : aethlios: nice [2017-04-07 16:51:05] hmmmYea : BitMEX_John: lets say i think that SW+2MB is whats going to happen. i cant really do that. [2017-04-07 16:51:07] arbitrage101 : problem is i dont have 100k profit [2017-04-07 16:51:26] arbitrage101 : to spend on girls and vacation [2017-04-07 16:51:43] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: can't you just go long on each contract? They would both settle at 100 in that instance? [2017-04-07 16:52:00] hmmmYea : I also have to get long SW beating the big blockers AND bitcoin unlimited beating core... i dont want to pay for either of those things to happen, bc i dont think they will happen [2017-04-07 16:52:13] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: also I am not against your idea here, just wanting to make sure I understand what you are asking for here before I pass it onto the team :) [2017-04-07 16:53:35] hmmmYea : its like in roulette. if i think 6 is coming next... i want to bet 6... not bet first 12 and evens [2017-04-07 16:54:06] BitMEX_John : hmmmYea: I'm still not sure what benefit a combined contract brings to the table over just taking a position on both existing contracts, but I am happy to pass the idea onto the team [2017-04-07 16:55:05] Secup : why is this btc havent moved since yesterday! [2017-04-07 16:55:46] arbitrage101 : wow [2017-04-07 16:55:52] arbitrage101 : ltc up and down a lot [2017-04-07 16:55:55] hmmmYea : BitMEX_John: ok thanks. [2017-04-07 17:03:42] lorestr : hey dudy remove 1190 and 1190.5 sell [2017-04-07 17:04:07] lorestr : and we fly [2017-04-07 17:13:04] lorestr : one we eat those orders 1190 will not be seen for long time as we go to 1245 [2017-04-07 17:19:25] Ahhere : lorestr: why you know dis? [2017-04-07 17:19:56] vgck : lorestr: long time as in 24 hours? [2017-04-07 17:21:32] lorestr : Ahhere: its liquidity providers game [2017-04-07 17:21:45] lorestr : vgck: line in 1h [2017-04-07 17:21:57] lorestr : like* [2017-04-07 17:36:49] robit : This is crazy, $20 discount on futures? WTF is causing this? I don't see how this isn't too good to be true and why everyone isn't gobbling up these cheap contracts [2017-04-07 17:37:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 11 @ 1168.9 [2017-04-07 17:37:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 2500 @ 1165.4 [2017-04-07 17:41:08] atlanta : robit: You'll see soon enough. [2017-04-07 17:41:16] 123abc : robit: because bitvc suspended withdraws btc [2017-04-07 17:41:27] 123abc : Based in hong kong [2017-04-07 17:41:37] 123abc : Guess where okcoin.com is based [2017-04-07 17:41:37] robit : atlanta: LMAO. meaning? [2017-04-07 17:41:47] 123abc : Hong Kong [2017-04-07 17:41:49] aethlios : robit: why cheap?? btc to borrow in finex is 0.04% daily which is 3.32% until 30 june which is 39 usd discount [2017-04-07 17:42:02] 123abc : And bitmex quarterly follows okcoin quarterly [2017-04-07 17:42:12] 123abc : So that's why [2017-04-07 17:42:17] robit : so there should be a 39 premium, not discount... [2017-04-07 17:42:49] atlanta : robit: Shit about to hit the fan. [2017-04-07 17:42:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 308 @ 0.00896 [2017-04-07 17:42:53] aethlios : robit: 39 discount not premium. [2017-04-07 17:42:57] robit : 123abc: Huh? OKC has a $30 premium while we have a $20 discount, and the indexes are different. It clearly doesn't follow OKC [2017-04-07 17:43:32] 123abc : If okc quarterly dumps bitmex quarterly dumps [2017-04-07 17:43:54] aethlios : think it like this: you want to hedge your btc for next 83 days. where is cheaper?? [2017-04-07 17:43:56] robit : aethlios: No. Since it costs interest to borrow money to leverage long, futures have a premium because you don't pay interest on futures [2017-04-07 17:44:56] j8 : robit: it costs more to short than to long on bitfinex [2017-04-07 17:44:59] rapidtrades : 387/576 (67.19%) blocks signaling in the past 24 hours! [2017-04-07 17:45:10] robit : 123abc: Why would it? There is no correlation between the 2 [2017-04-07 17:45:12] aethlios : robit: also costs to leverage short or hedge a btc position in a wallet. interest rates in btc are higher than usd, so btc in backwardation now. [2017-04-07 17:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 450 @ 0.00911 [2017-04-07 17:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 90 @ 0.00912 [2017-04-07 17:45:44] lorestr : ltc nice [2017-04-07 17:45:59] robit : aethlios: ok but hasn't this always been the case? even when we had massive premiums on futures here? [2017-04-07 17:46:11] aethlios : usd btc interest rate differential is negative, so btc in the future is cheaper. [2017-04-07 17:46:24] j8 : btc lending rates used to be very low, now they're higher than usd [2017-04-07 17:46:47] 123abc : robit: market maker is hedged there [2017-04-07 17:47:09] robit : What do you mean by hedged? [2017-04-07 17:47:19] aethlios : robit: no rates for btc were 0.002% daily, almost 1.5% per year, but usd rates were 0.10% daily or 36.5% annually. [2017-04-07 17:47:27] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-04-07 17:47:29] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 32.40 / 67.60 Daily : 36.95 / 63.05 Weekly : 45.41 / 54.59 Monthly : 50.67 / 49.33``` [2017-04-07 17:47:52] robit : aethlios: Im starting to get it thanks. What influences the interest rates primarily? [2017-04-07 17:49:40] robit : atlanta: I seriously doubt it. I don't get why everyone is so bearish [2017-04-07 17:50:15] Tetsuo : does kraken have LTC/USD margin tradin? [2017-04-07 17:51:00] arbitrage101 : market distortion everywhere [2017-04-07 17:51:04] arbitrage101 : good for traders [2017-04-07 17:51:39] arbitrage101 : just need a few anal lubricants ready if things dont work out [2017-04-07 17:51:57] atlanta : robit: We just discovered that when Bitcoin forks BU miners will be able to boost their hashrate around 30%. [2017-04-07 17:52:31] lorestr : atlanta: that means what? [2017-04-07 17:52:57] KyllingLolsson : arbitrage101: welcome to stay at my place [2017-04-07 17:53:02] KyllingLolsson : got a bucket [2017-04-07 17:53:16] KyllingLolsson : not for me obviously [2017-04-07 17:53:24] atlanta : That means their hostile takeover is much more likely to become the main chain. [2017-04-07 17:53:34] atlanta : = Much more turbulence [2017-04-07 17:53:53] lorestr : atlanta: would get interesting [2017-04-07 17:54:03] lorestr : short btc, right? [2017-04-07 17:54:10] aethlios : robit: interest rates are influenced by the demand for each currency. now demand for btc is very high in exchanges because many want to net short or hedge wallet positions, and demand for usd is super low because a few are bullish for btc in the future. [2017-04-07 17:54:14] lorestr : it will be 500 [2017-04-07 17:54:46] robit : aethlios: Big short squeeze coming then, I think [2017-04-07 17:54:47] atlanta : lorestr: can't tell you exactly when shit is gonna hit the fan, but those news are massive yet haven't impacted the market yet. [2017-04-07 17:55:00] aethlios : if interest rates for btc are higher than usd, then future prices are in backwardation. [2017-04-07 17:55:00] atlanta : Just google Asicboost and get a sense [2017-04-07 17:55:32] robit : atlanta: I don't think you get it. They have 30% advantage right now without fork or segwit. They are opposing segwit to keep this advantage. There will be no fork or hostile takeover lol [2017-04-07 17:56:13] atlanta : robit: There's no evidence pointing to the fact that they already use it. Bitmain holds the patent for Asicboost and can therefore enforce as they please. [2017-04-07 17:56:34] aethlios : robit: this miners advantage is for scrypt algo also?? for ltc. or only for btc algo?? [2017-04-07 17:56:54] robit : aethlios: No clue about LTC [2017-04-07 17:57:01] sleger : atlanta: patent :: chinese ? lol [2017-04-07 17:57:29] robit : atlanta: So they pay for the patent, but the hardware in their chips, and then don't use it? [2017-04-07 17:58:01] robit : atlanta: Worst that can happen is the stalling continues and status quo remains, which is bullish [2017-04-07 17:58:15] atlanta : https://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.00575.pdf [2017-04-07 17:58:50] atlanta : http://211.157.104.77:8080/sipo_EN/...d47b04688462b46a846c246aa436f47554bcc49784a2d [2017-04-07 17:58:53] rapidtrades : nothing impacts this market anymore, everyone is treating crypto like their personal get rich quick scheme [2017-04-07 17:58:53] atlanta : Last link is the patent [2017-04-07 17:59:12] hmmmYea : any chance we can keep the trollbox free of core propaganda? [2017-04-07 17:59:27] hmmmYea : it really doesnt matter at all. [2017-04-07 17:59:30] atlanta : A fork will impact the price heavily, but it wont last forever. Look at what happened with ETH when ETC forked [2017-04-07 17:59:46] robit : What makes you think there will be a fork? [2017-04-07 17:59:52] atlanta : hmmmYea: ye, i'm out of here for now. [2017-04-07 17:59:53] hmmmYea : obviously [2017-04-07 17:59:59] robit : What is the relevant portion of the links you sent? [2017-04-07 18:00:08] hmmmYea : but the asicboost drama is dumb af [2017-04-07 18:00:51] atlanta : It's enough to tilt the scales. You'll see eventually. [2017-04-07 18:01:06] robit : OK guys,I will continue buying the cheap quarterly then haha [2017-04-07 18:01:37] hmmmYea : oh yea... maybe if core does one more character assassination everything will change [2017-04-07 18:01:40] robit : When this unwinds and the $50+ premium comes back once we break 1300 I will say I told you so [2017-04-07 18:02:06] hmmmYea : i would literally prefer any protocol change as long as the core developers are no longer involved [2017-04-07 18:02:29] robit : whats wrong with core developers? seriously, i havent followed the drama much? [2017-04-07 18:02:35] rapidtrades : that premium is never coming back on this contract [2017-04-07 18:02:40] rapidtrades : we're in bear market [2017-04-07 18:02:59] robit : rapidtrades: LMAO "we are in bear market" after $300+ rise [2017-04-07 18:06:36] hmmmYea : robit: they are incompetent at achieving consensus [2017-04-07 18:08:54] sleger : rapidtrades: is that red curve http://www.intmath.com/blog/wp-content/images/2015/03/exponential-curve.png in a bear market too ? [2017-04-07 18:09:29] sleger : aethlios: 0kc btc withdrawal went through just now [2017-04-07 18:10:03] rapidtrades : sleger: idk are its futures at persistent discount? [2017-04-07 18:10:38] sleger : oh so the premium dictates the market direction ok [2017-04-07 18:10:45] sleger : i thought it was a contra indicator, my bad [2017-04-07 18:11:20] MikeHunt : rapid said sell [2017-04-07 18:11:22] MikeHunt : so i buy [2017-04-07 18:11:26] MikeHunt : lets test [2017-04-07 18:11:58] aethlios : sleger: i think now doesn't worth the risk to have btc in okcoin futures, because probability is really high they will follow bitvc. [2017-04-07 18:12:12] MikeHunt : aethlios: follow bitvc? [2017-04-07 18:12:53] sleger : vc = toilet in french [2017-04-07 18:12:56] aethlios : MikeHunt: https://www.bitvc.com/notice/content?id=107&istop=1 [2017-04-07 18:14:10] rapidtrades : really shows u how f*cked the market is right now when even that news doesn't tank it [2017-04-07 18:14:31] rapidtrades : its all about unwinding those scam alt trades [2017-04-07 18:14:40] rapidtrades : newbs running with their heads on fire [2017-04-07 18:14:47] rapidtrades : LTC hodlers next [2017-04-07 18:14:53] rapidtrades : once this starts u can't stop it [2017-04-07 18:15:31] rapidtrades : that 0.035 in ETH looks like its gonna fall soon [2017-04-07 18:15:39] sleger : when you're in a big hole, dont dig around yourself [2017-04-07 18:15:55] MikeHunt : aethlios: how soon was that posted? [2017-04-07 18:16:08] rapidtrades : right, maybe u should exit ur ETH trade then? @sleger [2017-04-07 18:16:22] sleger : i was talking about you [2017-04-07 18:16:25] aethlios : rapidtrades: ltc is safe heaven now, cheaper than eth dash xmr and with positive news ahead. so if not in usd then ltc hold is a "safe" option. [2017-04-07 18:16:30] sleger : you are down 50% I am up many many $$$ [2017-04-07 18:16:33] aethlios : sleger: 12 hours ago i think [2017-04-07 18:17:36] rapidtrades : im certainly not down 50% u clown [2017-04-07 18:17:50] MikeHunt : aethlios: finex is the pump engine atm so unless they get hacked i dont think much will change [2017-04-07 18:17:51] sleger : short 800, price 1200 [2017-04-07 18:17:55] sleger : short ltc at 5, price at 10 [2017-04-07 18:18:03] sleger : you're right, a bit more than 50% [2017-04-07 18:18:10] rapidtrades : ok so u shorted ripple at +70% and it went to 220% [2017-04-07 18:18:14] rapidtrades : so shut the hell up [2017-04-07 18:18:25] sleger : and i made 5 btc [2017-04-07 18:18:30] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: why not just deleverage so ur safe and trade with some other capital rather than moaning all the time? [2017-04-07 18:18:32] rapidtrades : u were down 150% then [2017-04-07 18:18:42] sleger : with 5% of my position [2017-04-07 18:18:49] sleger : which was 5% of my capital [2017-04-07 18:18:51] sleger : cool [2017-04-07 18:18:53] rapidtrades : u don't know my size so shut the hell up [2017-04-07 18:19:05] sleger : size doesnt matter in return % dummy [2017-04-07 18:19:23] rapidtrades : wow ur dumber then i thought