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[2017-04-07 05:11:53] aethlios : didn't comment.
[2017-04-07 05:12:25] lorestr : easy ltc price manipulation isn't it
[2017-04-07 05:14:01] mark121 : id agree that on larger timeframes we are in a symm triangle consolidation period that tends to come after the large bowl shape btc likes to do
[2017-04-07 05:14:19] aethlios : they can't make money other way, only stealing others with manipulating.
[2017-04-07 05:15:31] aethlios : you can go to jail for such comments if ltc was in a regulated exchange.
[2017-04-07 05:16:33] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/8fXEHkZW/
[2017-04-07 05:16:34] mark121 : aethlios
[2017-04-07 05:16:47] mark121 : that wud have to be ur neckline, at the very least
[2017-04-07 05:16:56] aethlios : after future expiration some action possible, new week begins
[2017-04-07 05:17:09] mark121 : those dips below it would be potential failures that recovered
[2017-04-07 05:17:27] mark121 : not uncommon
[2017-04-07 05:18:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 200 @ 0.03650
[2017-04-07 05:19:47] mark121 : MikeHunt: assuming u use other patterns this doesn't apply, but to those who use only a channel; they reallygive no indication of when the breakout wil occur
[2017-04-07 05:19:58] Vintage : Funding is in Minus so SHORTS pay right?
[2017-04-07 05:20:03] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-07 05:20:34] MikeHunt : mark121: you mean like out of the channel?
[2017-04-07 05:20:39] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-07 05:20:46] MikeHunt : yeh im not gonna try n guess that
[2017-04-07 05:20:53] MikeHunt : this is more for trading inside it
[2017-04-07 05:21:23] MikeHunt : u may also like my doom chart b4 etf
[2017-04-07 05:21:24] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1bFgl7Z.png
[2017-04-07 05:21:39] mark121 : even on log it seems more like a wedge (narrowing tho)
[2017-04-07 05:22:22] mark121 : and this gives u more touches
[2017-04-07 05:22:27] Dnavid : mark121: hi, don't see ur widening wedge. What time scale?
[2017-04-07 05:22:30] mark121 : and on smaller scales u can see this verified
[2017-04-07 05:22:37] mark121 : in how btc tends to move
[2017-04-07 05:22:57] mark121 : sometimes they ju scall em broadening formation the literature is inconsistent btw
[2017-04-07 05:23:04] mark121 : u cant use log
[2017-04-07 05:23:06] mark121 : but here
[2017-04-07 05:23:11] mark121 : any longer one
[2017-04-07 05:23:20] mark121 : encompass movement from july bottom
[2017-04-07 05:24:40] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/fPgSdECs/
[2017-04-07 05:24:48] mark121 : jus fyi i don't use them
[2017-04-07 05:24:55] mark121 : its jus for discussion
[2017-04-07 05:25:20] mark121 : and the lack of the recent missed bottom touches wud be explained as "partial declines"
[2017-04-07 05:25:35] mark121 : which tend to give a hint to breakout direction
[2017-04-07 05:25:55] mark121 : partial rise being the opposite, they can hint at a bottom breakout
[2017-04-07 05:26:58] mark121 : these type of patterns are essentially useless tho
[2017-04-07 05:27:03] Dnavid : mark121: gotcha
[2017-04-07 05:27:15] mark121 : u get a far more accurate picture looking closer
[2017-04-07 05:27:46] mark121 : just as the etf has proven, on that large of timescales, somethin macro could cause a breakout or failure
[2017-04-07 05:28:07] MikeHunt : mark121: http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-04-07 05:29:00] mark121 : u seem to actualy know enuf, but wtf is a china pump mean
[2017-04-07 05:29:02] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 05:29:07] mark121 : those aren't things
[2017-04-07 05:29:17] MikeHunt : mark121: china pumped 1/2 of btc
[2017-04-07 05:29:18] MikeHunt : basically
[2017-04-07 05:29:33] mark121 : TA is price and volume
[2017-04-07 05:29:41] mark121 : ignore anything else
[2017-04-07 05:29:51] MikeHunt : sicne pboc turned pumps off
[2017-04-07 05:29:59] MikeHunt : i did rough calc of where new support is
[2017-04-07 05:29:59] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 05:30:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 13.68 / 86.32 Daily : 39.21 / 60.80 Weekly : 46.21 / 53.79 Monthly : 50.86 / 49.14```
[2017-04-07 05:30:07] mark121 : turned pumps off?
[2017-04-07 05:30:11] mark121 : they turned off fake volume
[2017-04-07 05:30:19] MikeHunt : mark121: no more margin trading + capital restrictions
[2017-04-07 05:31:25] mark121 : all o fthose things (id argue most of it non consequential) are reflected within the chart naturally
[2017-04-07 05:32:00] MikeHunt : must be very subtly considering those things started ~jan9th
[2017-04-07 05:32:02] mark121 : especially because btc actualy went higher than it shud have based on pre pboc doctrine
[2017-04-07 05:32:24] mark121 : it doesn't mean those aren't both support
[2017-04-07 05:32:48] mark121 : one being more beefy as its older
[2017-04-07 05:33:51] mark121 : and why iis support higher now that no pumps? shudnt everything be way down?
[2017-04-07 05:34:07] mark121 : i think that's all nonsense
[2017-04-07 05:34:48] MikeHunt : manipulation imo
[2017-04-07 05:34:57] mark121 : sure, all of it though
[2017-04-07 05:34:59] MikeHunt : price is also largely down to faith
[2017-04-07 05:35:00] mark121 : is manipulation
[2017-04-07 05:35:22] mark121 : so is everything else
[2017-04-07 05:35:28] lorestr : who trades ripple?
[2017-04-07 05:35:28] MikeHunt : either a black swan (HF) or competition from alts will bring btc down
[2017-04-07 05:35:45] MikeHunt : especially if segwit doesnt pass
[2017-04-07 05:35:47] MikeHunt : or BU
[2017-04-07 05:36:04] mark121 : that doesn't explain why it hasn't plummeted without these supposed pumps
[2017-04-07 05:36:31] MikeHunt : mark121: again its all faith
[2017-04-07 05:36:42] mark121 : so is all money
[2017-04-07 05:36:50] mark121 : and everything else that has perceived value
[2017-04-07 05:36:52] frog : mark121: why do think it hasn't plummeted??
[2017-04-07 05:37:11] lorestr : /price
[2017-04-07 05:37:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1185.41 (-0.23%) Bitfinex : 1188.00 (-0.25%) The Woodchipper : 1181.44 (-0.95%) itBit : 1185.92 (-0.32%) Kraken : 1186.00 (-0.52%) GDAX : 1187.29 (-0.48%) SLQ : 2 hours, 40 mins```
[2017-04-07 05:37:15] mark121 : treasury notes have value because of faith in the US treasury
[2017-04-07 05:37:22] MikeHunt : mark121: indeed
[2017-04-07 05:37:29] MikeHunt : mark121: $ is overvalued
[2017-04-07 05:37:35] MikeHunt : like other fiat currencies
[2017-04-07 05:38:15] mark121 : pt is ur chinapump thing is uncessary
[2017-04-07 05:38:44] mark121 : they are just diff cycle supports, or partial decline that hint at an uppe rbreakout
[2017-04-07 05:39:04] MikeHunt : point is to try and find new bottom ;)
[2017-04-07 05:39:10] MikeHunt : if dump happen
[2017-04-07 05:39:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/1fxpqc0Q/
[2017-04-07 05:40:01] mark121 : why wud u need to calculate that lol
[2017-04-07 05:40:11] mark121 : i jus drew it :p
[2017-04-07 05:40:48] lorestr : mark121: well done
[2017-04-07 05:44:04] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-07 05:44:09] MikeHunt : well sorta sad in a way
[2017-04-07 05:44:16] MikeHunt : this could be the highest btc ever goes again
[2017-04-07 05:49:34] BitMEX_Arthur : We have two new prediction futures contracts that are now live
[2017-04-07 05:50:01] MikeHunt : B_BLOCKSZ17 ?
[2017-04-07 05:50:02] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/B_SEGWITZ17 https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 05:56:42] mark121 : mikehunt: that wud be reflected in massive distribution
[2017-04-07 05:57:02] KingTuna : I am hedging until there is direction
[2017-04-07 05:57:07] KingTuna : Happy with profits to date
[2017-04-07 05:58:35] Dnavid : mark121: Perhaps whales will keep pumping until all available fiat is holding then dump. The consumer "news" is still rosy and mooners are again bragging about their hodliness.
[2017-04-07 05:58:58] Tetsuo : korn quarterlys dumpin hard
[2017-04-07 05:59:04] Tetsuo : okkorn
[2017-04-07 06:00:24] CrazySteve : sentiment
[2017-04-07 06:00:40] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 06:00:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.68 / 44.32 Daily : 38.66 / 61.34 Weekly : 46.24 / 53.76 Monthly : 50.81 / 49.20```
[2017-04-07 06:05:08] Vintage : funding in minus shorts pay right?
[2017-04-07 06:06:17] aethlios : june okcoin premium went to zero in th edump from +40 a few hours before. so much bullshitness
[2017-04-07 06:06:42] aethlios : 2 hours for delivery
[2017-04-07 06:07:20] mark121 : lorestr: ty sir
[2017-04-07 06:07:28] Vintage : BitMEX_Arthur: when funding is minus who pays funding please?
[2017-04-07 06:08:21] BitMEX_Arthur : Vintage: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2017-04-07 06:08:36] mark121 : KingTuna: lol wecome to the top of the fence :0
[2017-04-07 06:08:39] BitMEX_Arthur : Shorts pay longs when the rate is negative, please read that to completely understand
[2017-04-07 06:10:01] mark121 : Dnavid: anything can happen but its premature, if fork happens its apparently in October so we got a ways to go
[2017-04-07 06:10:21] Dnavid : mark121: October? Why?
[2017-04-07 06:10:48] mark121 : that's when fork wud takeplace according to report i saw today
[2017-04-07 06:12:34] Dnavid : mark121: oh,ok
[2017-04-07 06:12:35] mark121 : alts are down and diving it seems
[2017-04-07 06:12:46] mark121 : btc up ?
[2017-04-07 06:12:50] Dnavid : noted the appointment in my calendar Oct 1st
[2017-04-07 06:15:01] mark121 : heh :]
[2017-04-07 06:15:20] Dnavid : mark121: https://coin.dance/blocks whenever any crosses 51% HF can happen and prolly will.
[2017-04-07 06:15:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 3000 @ 0.00933
[2017-04-07 06:15:23] KingTuna : mark121: Top of the fence eh?
[2017-04-07 06:15:32] mark121 : if u r hedged
[2017-04-07 06:15:36] mark121 : bothways
[2017-04-07 06:15:39] mark121 : as i was
[2017-04-07 06:15:43] mark121 : or am
[2017-04-07 06:15:55] mark121 : its a joke
[2017-04-07 06:16:20] mark121 : dnavid: i don't think it will
[2017-04-07 06:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 6 @ 0.00928
[2017-04-07 06:17:16] Dnavid : mark121: I meant, if it goes over 51%, fork will happen, not that fork will happen per se.
[2017-04-07 06:17:27] mark121 : i kno that lol
[2017-04-07 06:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00921
[2017-04-07 06:17:32] mark121 : u said probably will
[2017-04-07 06:18:12] Dnavid : mark121: sorry, didn't mean that.
[2017-04-07 06:18:24] mark121 : ah i underestand
[2017-04-07 06:18:30] mark121 : myb
[2017-04-07 06:19:40] mark121 : ju sbought some B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 06:20:01] mark121 : cus im a gangsta
[2017-04-07 06:20:34] mark121 : i have no idea what it is
[2017-04-07 06:21:13] Dnavid : mark121: think best proxy for for probability is BCU, which is quite down.
[2017-04-07 06:21:24] Dnavid : *for fork
[2017-04-07 06:21:42] mark121 : i own the only unit of B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 06:21:48] mark121 : available
[2017-04-07 06:22:00] mark121 : it is now for sale
[2017-04-07 06:22:45] men : good moment for short btc?
[2017-04-07 06:23:04] men : seems good
[2017-04-07 06:25:35] mark121 : short away homie
[2017-04-07 06:26:15] KingTuna : mark121: You think sir
[2017-04-07 06:26:23] mark121 : not rly
[2017-04-07 06:26:26] KingTuna : Id like to see a little more down odd finex price
[2017-04-07 06:26:33] KingTuna : off*
[2017-04-07 06:26:44] mark121 : btc looks up
[2017-04-07 06:26:46] hh : Buy Ripple Now
[2017-04-07 06:27:15] KingTuna : Buy Dribble now
[2017-04-07 06:27:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 1000 @ 0.00002782
[2017-04-07 06:27:57] hh : https://www.tradingview.com/x/BuWuuyhc/
[2017-04-07 06:28:03] lorestr : men: target 1165
[2017-04-07 06:28:17] lorestr : sell xbtusd
[2017-04-07 06:29:25] mark121 : cud see a mini h&s form heh
[2017-04-07 06:31:35] fallwater1024 : fuck
[2017-04-07 06:31:50] fallwater1024 : nima
[2017-04-07 06:33:41] mark121 : ltc cud seriously nose dive
[2017-04-07 06:33:59] SilverKnight : Morning all
[2017-04-07 06:34:02] SilverKnight : *yawn*
[2017-04-07 06:34:40] SilverKnight : looking like we are in no mans land on bTC...
[2017-04-07 06:34:47] SilverKnight : stuck between a long and a short
[2017-04-07 06:34:56] SilverKnight : I wouldn't touch it until its more clear
[2017-04-07 06:35:28] SilverKnight : wait for the obvious trade
[2017-04-07 06:36:03] SilverKnight : your money will be there if you wait... if you dont... it wont... :D
[2017-04-07 06:40:51] frog : just bought some btc
[2017-04-07 06:41:42] mark121 : im long too
[2017-04-07 06:42:13] frog : funding going up
[2017-04-07 06:42:25] lorestr : frog: what level?
[2017-04-07 06:42:34] lorestr : bought
[2017-04-07 06:42:58] frog : and manged to buy using limit order
[2017-04-07 06:43:02] frog : 1179
[2017-04-07 06:43:10] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-07 06:43:28] lorestr : and liquidation or stop?
[2017-04-07 06:43:50] frog : liq 1055 no stop
[2017-04-07 06:43:57] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 06:44:07] lorestr : so its ~1:30 right?
[2017-04-07 06:44:16] frog : 1:10
[2017-04-07 06:44:20] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-07 06:44:31] frog : isolated
[2017-04-07 06:45:13] lorestr : I will buy 1067
[2017-04-07 06:45:26] frog : but i already had some so may affect liquidation overall, not really sure
[2017-04-07 06:45:26] lorestr : mid point of your entry and liq
[2017-04-07 06:45:30] mark121 : no reason to think its going there
[2017-04-07 06:45:52] mark121 : in this moment
[2017-04-07 06:46:04] frog : lorestr: you mean 1167?
[2017-04-07 06:46:05] lorestr : mark121: the reason is we list momentum for up
[2017-04-07 06:46:11] lorestr : yes
[2017-04-07 06:46:15] lorestr : 1167
[2017-04-07 06:46:53] frog : mid point is around 1120
[2017-04-07 06:47:07] mark121 : even that may be unreachable
[2017-04-07 06:47:44] frog : markhunt disagrees we are now at highest point
[2017-04-07 06:47:46] mark121 : heh but much more likely than 1067
[2017-04-07 06:48:09] lorestr : the day is young
[2017-04-07 06:49:46] mark121 : heh nah alts r going up, cud happn sooner than later :)
[2017-04-07 06:50:41] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/6dVaeKpW/
[2017-04-07 06:51:10] mark121 : its possible that it got the moment for the up move by breaking this trendline
[2017-04-07 06:51:11] frog : mark121: you're long and short though..
[2017-04-07 06:51:21] mark121 : imomentum*
[2017-04-07 06:51:34] mark121 : and thus it wud now act as sup[port
[2017-04-07 06:51:43] mark121 : nh i closed my short in 70's
[2017-04-07 06:51:55] frog : thats sort of what I think
[2017-04-07 06:52:05] frog : but different maths
[2017-04-07 06:52:42] lorestr : http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/04/07/bitcoin-price-technical-analysis-04072017-supported-risk-off-flows/
[2017-04-07 06:53:53] mark121 : not sure bout his TA lol
[2017-04-07 06:54:11] frog : he said down
[2017-04-07 06:54:32] frog : but had a lot of padding
[2017-04-07 06:54:35] lorestr : mark121: in any market we have no sure thing lol
[2017-04-07 06:54:42] frog : no
[2017-04-07 06:54:55] KyllingLolsson : My general philosopy is, whenever anything is very optimistic and euphoric, that's when to take a step back
[2017-04-07 06:55:18] mark121 : and the opposite of that is currently the scernario
[2017-04-07 06:55:34] frog : i like mark121 approach just trade the numbers and ignore the noise
[2017-04-07 06:55:38] mark121 : every1 thinks btc is dying or dead
[2017-04-07 06:55:47] mark121 : yep
[2017-04-07 06:56:00] jose : mark121: i guess i am not every1 then
[2017-04-07 06:56:11] mark121 : its not literal
[2017-04-07 06:56:13] frog : definitely dead, has been confirmed here many times
[2017-04-07 06:57:09] frog : every downtick confirms its death
[2017-04-07 06:57:09] mark121 : lol:)
[2017-04-07 06:57:25] brouk : btc has died many times already
[2017-04-07 06:58:16] lorestr : when I have to pay 0.003BTC fee to bitmex for withdrawal I see btc dead too
[2017-04-07 06:58:44] KyllingLolsson : Btc will never die
[2017-04-07 06:59:02] brouk : lorestr: i think youre paying that fee to miners not bitmex
[2017-04-07 06:59:16] lorestr : brouk: hell knows
[2017-04-07 06:59:33] frog : hopefully not to the jihan cartel
[2017-04-07 06:59:35] miccheck12 : bitmex doen't take fees for withdrawal.
[2017-04-07 06:59:48] miccheck12 : *doesn't
[2017-04-07 06:59:51] lorestr : miccheck12: they take nothing only our BTC
[2017-04-07 06:59:58] miccheck12 : that's fake news
[2017-04-07 07:02:56] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 07:02:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 29.71 / 70.29 Daily : 39.56 / 60.44 Weekly : 46.23 / 53.77 Monthly : 50.80 / 49.20```
[2017-04-07 07:10:43] lorestr : after 1h sentiment (hourly) will be the opposite
[2017-04-07 07:10:55] lorestr : lets see :)
[2017-04-07 07:21:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 31581 @ 1185.4
[2017-04-07 07:23:06] lorestr : someone lost 1btc
[2017-04-07 07:23:18] lorestr : with 100x
[2017-04-07 07:23:32] herpinator : ripperino
[2017-04-07 07:23:51] panmex : anny admin here ? i need some help ?
[2017-04-07 07:23:57] BitMEX_John : panmex: here :)
[2017-04-07 07:25:33] panmex : BitMEX_John: my BTC withdraw is not jet processed from yesetrday ? is thaht normal ?
[2017-04-07 07:26:20] aethlios : china -157
[2017-04-07 07:26:33] mark121 : there we go
[2017-04-07 07:26:51] elmorte : BitMEX_John: hey John, how come the open value on the B_BLOCKSZ17 is less than the nominal size of 1 contract?
[2017-04-07 07:27:24] BitMEX_John : panmex: did you confirm by clicking the link in the withdrawal confirmation email?
[2017-04-07 07:27:55] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: The open value is just the value of the open interest at the current mark price
[2017-04-07 07:28:08] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: cheers Wally
[2017-04-07 07:29:13] panmex : BitMEX_John: yes i did. you can see here my withdrawl http://prntscr.com/eth31w
[2017-04-07 07:29:15] BitMEX_Wally : panmex: Withdrawals are processed at 13:00 UTC, looks like your withdrawal request was confirmed at 13:07 UTC
[2017-04-07 07:29:53] panmex : ohhh thats why
[2017-04-07 07:29:56] panmex : thanks
[2017-04-07 07:30:17] NODEX : is bitmex based in hk?
[2017-04-07 07:31:22] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: Sam said you built an automatic deweighting mechanism into the new index. can you please open source it or publish more details on how it works?
[2017-04-07 07:34:20] aethlios : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/850247652029513730
[2017-04-07 07:35:42] macro : Hi, I'm trying to create a pegged order via the API explorer - but I keep getting an "Unsupported ordType" error response. Are pegged orders still supported? Thanks
[2017-04-07 07:35:49] lorestr : aethlios: that means btc down
[2017-04-07 07:36:14] lorestr : to 800
[2017-04-07 07:36:17] aethlios : lorestr: and we have to leave okcoin futures maybe.
[2017-04-07 07:37:56] zqooN : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz
[2017-04-07 07:45:09] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 07:45:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 20.27 / 79.73 Daily : 39.20 / 60.80 Weekly : 46.18 / 53.82 Monthly : 50.82 / 49.18```
[2017-04-07 07:45:17] CrazySteve : /price
[2017-04-07 07:45:18] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1186.00 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1191.80 (0.32%) The Woodchipper : 1187.04 (0.47%) itBit : 1185.09 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1188.97 (0.25%) GDAX : 1188.10 (0.07%) SLQ : 2 hours, 8 mins```
[2017-04-07 07:46:08] Ahhere : aethlios: u think it will affect bitmex?
[2017-04-07 07:46:51] aethlios : more clients, i think if this is true for huobi, okcoin maybe will do th esame.
[2017-04-07 07:47:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2 @ 1189.3 :punch: :whale:
[2017-04-07 07:47:22] aethlios : wait a stupid recovery in okcoin
[2017-04-07 07:47:35] hh : I believe it is last chance to buy Ripple before weekend rally.
[2017-04-07 07:47:42] Tetsuo : aethlios: o´m withdrawin everything now
[2017-04-07 07:48:09] aethlios : Tetsuo: me too, wait positions to close.
[2017-04-07 07:49:27] aethlios : has anyone huobi account to see the message???
[2017-04-07 07:51:58] aethlios : Tetsuo: -165 china, a joke exchanges.
[2017-04-07 07:51:58] miccheck12 : will there be a statement from bitmex regarding HK exchanges stop of withdrawals?
[2017-04-07 07:52:27] jose : trump going crazy, bitcoin will go up
[2017-04-07 07:55:06] BitMEX_John : miccheck12: BitMEX is incorporated in the Seychelles, but I will pass your question onto the team
[2017-04-07 07:55:28] Tetsuo : aethlios: withdrawls still working @ okkoin.com, will remove the rest after the settlement
[2017-04-07 07:55:31] Rado : what is the BLOCKS bianry?
[2017-04-07 07:55:55] aethlios : Tetsuo: yes me too. maybe a few hours left
[2017-04-07 07:55:56] miccheck12 : Thanks John, i thought bitmex was based in hk for some reason..
[2017-04-07 07:56:11] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 07:56:13] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 20.18 / 79.82 Daily : 39.02 / 60.98 Weekly : 46.17 / 53.83 Monthly : 50.81 / 49.19```
[2017-04-07 07:57:35] mark121 : finally
[2017-04-07 07:58:12] brouk : /fork
[2017-04-07 07:58:13] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 1089.30 (0.03%) Bitfinex BCU : 118.94 (17.74%) SLQ : 9 hours, 48 mins```
[2017-04-07 07:58:48] Tetsuo : sleger rapidtrades, rado , j8 GET OUT OF OKKOIN.COM!!!
[2017-04-07 07:59:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2979 @ 1192.0
[2017-04-07 07:59:21] mark121 : what is time over there
[2017-04-07 07:59:39] mark121 : when is withdrawl deadline
[2017-04-07 08:00:06] Tetsuo : nothing said so far, but bitvc has stopped withdrawls without warning
[2017-04-07 08:00:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 1192.5
[2017-04-07 08:00:57] Tetsuo : u can withdraw your settlement profits in 30 minutes i think, everything else i have already withdrawn
[2017-04-07 08:01:30] lockhedge : it's relatively irrelevant where a company is registered. what matters is the principle place of business. it seems that China doesn't not see BitVC as a HK-based company.
[2017-04-07 08:04:20] elmorte : aethlios: I have a huobi acc
[2017-04-07 08:04:30] aethlios : Tetsuo: do you think finex could have issues??
[2017-04-07 08:04:43] aethlios : elmorte: what is th esituation??
[2017-04-07 08:05:10] ross : Can someone check settlement time for etc please. It doesn't show on mobile
[2017-04-07 08:05:11] Tetsuo : aethlios: i haven´t traded@ Finex for over 2 years
[2017-04-07 08:05:19] Tetsuo : movin funds to polo/Bitstamp and BTC-E now
[2017-04-07 08:05:35] Tetsuo : ross: 4h
[2017-04-07 08:05:36] elmorte : aethlios: no notification
[2017-04-07 08:05:43] ross : Tetsuo: thanks
[2017-04-07 08:05:50] aethlios : Tetsuo: i don't trust btc-e and stamp expensive no margin.
[2017-04-07 08:06:05] elmorte : I haven't verified to C2 as required recently
[2017-04-07 08:06:22] Tetsuo : aethlios: i don´t trust olo or BTC-E, but it´s safer there than @ okkoin.com now :-)
[2017-04-07 08:06:36] elmorte : been meaning to, to see if I can arb China and the west, just haven't had the time
[2017-04-07 08:06:42] Tetsuo : aethlios: i will use Stamp just to convert my profits into USD
[2017-04-07 08:06:44] aethlios : elmorte: https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/850247652029513730 that??
[2017-04-07 08:07:26] elmorte : Nothing about it on huobi.com
[2017-04-07 08:07:47] Tetsuo : it´s on bitvc homepage, right at the top
[2017-04-07 08:08:15] Tetsuo : those assholes
[2017-04-07 08:08:38] Tetsuo : "sorry for the inconvnience"
[2017-04-07 08:10:12] aethlios : Tetsuo: stupid pumpers keep pumping
[2017-04-07 08:10:30] lorestr : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 08:10:32] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 32.93 / 67.07 Daily : 39.00 / 61.00 Weekly : 46.22 / 53.78 Monthly : 50.83 / 49.17```
[2017-04-07 08:12:09] Tetsuo : USDT fukked?
[2017-04-07 08:12:30] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/63y5uj/daily_discussion_friday_april_07_2017/dfy3k1m/
[2017-04-07 08:12:53] Tetsuo : everything is going to shit
[2017-04-07 08:14:04] Tetsuo : https://www.law360.com/articles/910505
[2017-04-07 08:14:08] Tetsuo : Finex fukked
[2017-04-07 08:14:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 900 @ 1194.2
[2017-04-07 08:14:33] Tetsuo : "which clocks in at a combined $180 million in deposits. iFinex Inc. and Tether Ltd. on Wednesday said that Wells Fargo recently stopped servicing "
[2017-04-07 08:15:13] Tetsuo : dinding , settlement withdrawls are now possible, time to leave the sinking ship
[2017-04-07 08:16:10] Dnavid : 6000BTC sell wall on in itBit. Guess no one is buying, or we would see crash?
[2017-04-07 08:17:51] lockhedge : Tetsuo: they still serve US customers?
[2017-04-07 08:19:31] Tetsuo : lockhedge: Finex?
[2017-04-07 08:19:39] Tetsuo : Yes i think so
[2017-04-07 08:25:45] elmorte : Meanwhile on localbitcoins, price is CNY 8150/8300
[2017-04-07 08:26:54] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 08:26:57] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 24.21 / 75.79 Daily : 38.36 / 61.64 Weekly : 46.10 / 53.90 Monthly : 50.83 / 49.17```
[2017-04-07 08:27:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 15 @ 0.055652
[2017-04-07 08:28:47] Tetsuo : aethlios my post settlement withdraw is pending for 15 minutes now, yours too?
[2017-04-07 08:29:21] aethlios : Tetsuo: i just did them was in futures and had to pass 15 minutes
[2017-04-07 08:31:12] mark121 : here we go
[2017-04-07 08:31:56] Dnavid : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 08:31:59] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 19.06 / 80.94 Daily : 37.90 / 62.10 Weekly : 46.02 / 53.98 Monthly : 50.82 / 49.19```
[2017-04-07 08:32:14] KingTuna : 1205 I'll be convinced
[2017-04-07 08:32:37] mark121 : 1215 for moi
[2017-04-07 08:32:44] veritas : "Pump your mother, if you want pump" - Jihan Wu
[2017-04-07 08:32:58] KyllingLolsson : I missed this one. Wait for next long entry
[2017-04-07 08:33:51] mark121 : enter now or forever hold your peace
[2017-04-07 08:34:28] Dnavid : mark121: you made me into a long, I'll never forgive you but maybe if enough profits.
[2017-04-07 08:34:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 25 @ 0.03588
[2017-04-07 08:35:47] mark121 : lol jus following the chart is all
[2017-04-07 08:36:12] KyllingLolsson : What is that new biniary contract?
[2017-04-07 08:36:18] 123abc : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/850247652029513730
[2017-04-07 08:36:30] 123abc : wonder if okc futures is going to suspend withdraws soon
[2017-04-07 08:37:25] 123abc : bitstamp btc new high
[2017-04-07 08:37:39] Tetsuo : 20m still "pending"
[2017-04-07 08:37:55] mark121 : how much u got on there
[2017-04-07 08:38:23] Tetsuo : 10k left, main stash already withdrawn this morning
[2017-04-07 08:39:17] mark121 : \dip???
[2017-04-07 08:39:53] aethlios : Tetsuo: me too still pending, maybe hot wallet empty.
[2017-04-07 08:40:57] Tetsuo : contactin support right now
[2017-04-07 08:41:31] mark121 : fake dip or real, only ggod knows but i sold
[2017-04-07 08:41:40] mark121 : maybe i got tricked
[2017-04-07 08:42:00] Tetsuo : "I am sorry, there are a lot of cusomer is withdrawing now. Please wait for a moment."
[2017-04-07 08:43:32] atlanta : Tell me exactly how this is not gonna turn into shit if Bitfinex will be ordered to halt withdrawals as well ?
[2017-04-07 08:44:12] Tetsuo : everything will burn
[2017-04-07 08:44:57] atlanta : Then where is the market reaction of solely the chance of this happening?
[2017-04-07 08:44:59] mark121 : thisis good fake new
[2017-04-07 08:45:06] mark121 : as in.. real news lol
[2017-04-07 08:45:11] mark121 : but dip forcing news
[2017-04-07 08:45:15] Dnavid : Can we try and think this through? Customers in exchanges at risk are buying bitcoin to transfer to other exchanges. So this is actually short-term bullish, isn't it?
[2017-04-07 08:45:36] mark121 : huh
[2017-04-07 08:45:36] Tetsuo : Dnavid: for bitvc customers it´s already too late
[2017-04-07 08:45:47] Tetsuo : okkoin.com and finex custoomers might be buyin right now to get out
[2017-04-07 08:46:00] men : time to short
[2017-04-07 08:46:06] mark121 : buying to get out?
[2017-04-07 08:46:06] Tetsuo : men: done
[2017-04-07 08:46:16] mark121 : i shorted at 1197
[2017-04-07 08:46:21] Tetsuo : mark121: convert USD to BTC/LTC withdraw to solid western exchanges?
[2017-04-07 08:46:22] men : me too
[2017-04-07 08:46:26] men : 1196
[2017-04-07 08:46:50] mark121 : ah thought that might flag u guys for punishment in future or somethiung
[2017-04-07 08:47:00] atlanta : Tetsuo: ""I am sorry, there are a lot of cusomer is withdrawing now. Please wait for a moment." where was this from ?
[2017-04-07 08:47:09] Tetsuo : atlanta: okkoin.com support
[2017-04-07 08:47:48] Dnavid : mark121: yep, buying to get out. No?
[2017-04-07 08:48:59] mark121 : i hear ya
[2017-04-07 08:49:28] mark121 : however accumulation straight down so short for now
[2017-04-07 08:49:29] lockhedge : Tetsuo: Bitfinex is now based in Taiwan, according to their complaint https://dlbjbjzgnk95t.cloudfront.net/0910000/910505/https-ecf-cand-uscourts-gov-doc1-035115321747.pdf
[2017-04-07 08:50:22] Tetsuo : lockhedge: ok, thx for the update, but there is still wells fargo blocking 180m in withdrawls from ifinex
[2017-04-07 08:50:41] Tetsuo : USDtether related
[2017-04-07 08:50:49] aethlios : Tetsuo: they can't block the money, maybe they ask them to change bank.
[2017-04-07 08:50:53] Dnavid : mark121: k
[2017-04-07 08:50:55] mark121 : the end is near
[2017-04-07 08:50:59] mark121 : they can freeze the funds
[2017-04-07 08:51:22] Tetsuo : if criminal activity, then probably yes
[2017-04-07 08:51:24] mark121 : permanently
[2017-04-07 08:53:35] mark121 : what time is it over there
[2017-04-07 08:55:26] KingTuna : I like how China fud doesn't even phase the market anymore.. but still concerned . Ah hedge for now and go out
[2017-04-07 08:56:46] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/gRA60sdP/
[2017-04-07 08:56:56] mark121 : back to original thought
[2017-04-07 08:57:06] mark121 : although that trendline is bs, we alrdy broke it
[2017-04-07 08:57:28] justinlooking : lol
[2017-04-07 08:57:53] aethlios : Tetsuo: still pending??
[2017-04-07 08:58:02] Tetsuo : Yes
[2017-04-07 09:00:21] men : cmon bitcoin
[2017-04-07 09:00:24] men : go down :D
[2017-04-07 09:01:08] DangerandPlay : we're gonna break 1,200 today
[2017-04-07 09:01:09] DangerandPlay : then it'll go down
[2017-04-07 09:01:22] miccheck12 : why do you think that?
[2017-04-07 09:01:23] Apocalyptic : what's the news regarding bitfinex ?
[2017-04-07 09:02:43] atlanta : Appears to be based in Taiwan
[2017-04-07 09:02:50] KingTuna : If finex fails, oh lord the crash from hell
[2017-04-07 09:03:34] aethlios : don't panic about finex, problem is okcoin now.
[2017-04-07 09:05:12] men : what news about finex? @aethlios
[2017-04-07 09:06:01] aethlios : men: some banking problems, but the problem is https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/850247652029513730
[2017-04-07 09:06:34] frog : why don;t people just transfer bitcoin and convert locally?
[2017-04-07 09:07:10] men : aethlios: source of banking problems ?
[2017-04-07 09:07:23] Apocalyptic : RIP finex
[2017-04-07 09:07:27] lockhedge : men: https://dlbjbjzgnk95t.cloudfront.net/0910000/910505/https-ecf-cand-uscourts-gov-doc1-035115321747.pdf
[2017-04-07 09:07:47] frog : and re BitVc it seems to be just bringing policy into line with parent Huobi
[2017-04-07 09:07:59] men : lockhedge: what they tell about finex? in short :D
[2017-04-07 09:08:14] Apocalyptic : men: they may be unable to process USD withdrawals
[2017-04-07 09:08:21] men : lockhedge: thanks for info @aethlios
[2017-04-07 09:08:22] uej : will holding LTC contracts long term cost some kind of fees? or only transactions has a cost?
[2017-04-07 09:08:31] men : Apocalyptic: poor finex
[2017-04-07 09:08:39] BitMEX_John : uej: there are no fees for holding ltc contracts on BitMEX
[2017-04-07 09:08:45] men : so much problem
[2017-04-07 09:09:14] BitMEX_John : uej: the only fees are for buying and selling and settlement, please note settlement is occurring in less than 3 hours
[2017-04-07 09:11:29] lockhedge : men: no big thing. Bitfinex filed a complaint at a court in California because Wells Fargo does not accept any money coming from Bitfinex's (and Tether's) bank accounts in Taiwan.
[2017-04-07 09:11:53] frog : Wells Fargo still processing deposits via SWIFT
[2017-04-07 09:12:23] mark121 : withdrawls r the issue no?
[2017-04-07 09:12:34] frog : from Taiwan
[2017-04-07 09:12:58] Apocalyptic : "Wells Fargo’s suspension of U.S. dollar wire transfers also is interfering with plaintiffs’ ability to conduct business, such as their ability to pay employees and suppliers"
[2017-04-07 09:14:41] frog : they have to make application sound serious enough to get a quick hearing'
[2017-04-07 09:14:42] mark121 : If plaintiffs are not able to send timely to their worldwide customers the U.S. dollars that belong to them, plaintiffs’ customers likely will view the failure as plaintiffs’ own wrongdoing or inability to provide the requested currency and they will turn to plaintiffs’ competitors, some of which have lower due diligence standards than plaintiffs.
[2017-04-07 09:15:04] men : lockhedge: thanks to all for the info guys :D @mark121
[2017-04-07 09:15:40] frog : supporting damage
[2017-04-07 09:16:35] frog : need to do something to try and mitigate losses
[2017-04-07 09:21:00] emcor : that taiwan thing has nothing to do with bitcoin as a whole
[2017-04-07 09:22:44] frog : no and it shows the value of the bitcoin system being able to bypass traditional banking systems
[2017-04-07 09:23:26] lockhedge : agree with @aethlios that OKC blocking withdrawals the same way as BitVC is currently the largest risk. but despite also being registered in HK with a parent company in China, their regulatory setup seems to be different.
[2017-04-07 09:25:08] aethlios : Tetsuo: 53 btc pending in 3 withdrawals from okcoin, 21 btc left now. so they process
[2017-04-07 09:26:34] mark121 : frog
[2017-04-07 09:26:38] mark121 : for that very reasona
[2017-04-07 09:26:50] mark121 : ths cud kick off a trend
[2017-04-07 09:26:57] mark121 : which = fear
[2017-04-07 09:27:01] mark121 : which = uncertainty
[2017-04-07 09:27:15] mark121 : im worried Canada is about to do somethin drastic
[2017-04-07 09:27:16] frog : OKC currently don't allow withdrawals to chinese people so are complying with PBOC. BItVC may nor be able to tell which customers are from so are required to block everyone
[2017-04-07 09:27:26] emcor : if the taiwan banks have 180m$ they cant withdraw, they should use their balance to buy bitcoin
[2017-04-07 09:27:31] emcor : and transfer to their wallet
[2017-04-07 09:28:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 140 @ 0.00897
[2017-04-07 09:28:51] Ahhere : So we not worried about Hong Kong obviously then seem to be creeping up
[2017-04-07 09:29:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 555 @ 0.00894
[2017-04-07 09:31:20] lockhedge : emcor: $180m is the combined amount of deposits by Bitfinex and Tether in their bank accounts in Taiwan, not the amount that has been "blocked" (not accepted and sent back) by Wells Fargo
[2017-04-07 09:35:06] lockhedge : Wells Fargo has 10% market share in the US, so very probably less than 10% of their US customers (some have accounts at more than one bank) are affected.
[2017-04-07 09:36:34] aethlios : frog: okcoin futures or china??
[2017-04-07 09:37:37] aethlios : china -169 usd
[2017-04-07 09:39:47] frog : i'm not sure but don't know why they would suddenly stop withdrawals to non chinese residents now , it is outside the scope of the PBOC regulation.
[2017-04-07 09:41:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 300 @ 0.00894
[2017-04-07 09:42:36] frog : Banks can withold international transfers if they have suspicion of money laundering etc and they don't have to tell customer, so this is most likely explanation. So should be sorted out soon.
[2017-04-07 09:43:17] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 09:43:42] mark121 : ya they wil sort out the money... and keep it :p
[2017-04-07 09:43:45] frog : im sure finex will be squeaky clean
[2017-04-07 09:44:18] mark121 : lol!
[2017-04-07 09:46:11] frog : they cant keep it, they will have to return it once it is sorted out
[2017-04-07 09:48:01] mark121 : lmao
[2017-04-07 09:48:21] mark121 : we r talkin about banks right?
[2017-04-07 09:48:30] frog : yeah
[2017-04-07 09:49:28] mark121 : they don't have to do shit , especially as government fear crypto
[2017-04-07 09:49:34] mark121 : government run by banks
[2017-04-07 09:49:58] mark121 : its possible but i wud certainly bet favourably againstit
[2017-04-07 09:50:02] frog : if there is an issue which is unlikely it would be Taiwan police or similar who would seize the funds
[2017-04-07 09:50:17] mark121 : no
[2017-04-07 09:50:23] mark121 : banks wil freeze funds
[2017-04-07 09:50:37] frog : freeze but not take ownership
[2017-04-07 09:50:44] mark121 : u don't get it lol
[2017-04-07 09:50:53] mark121 : they wil freeze with an impossible standard of proof
[2017-04-07 09:50:57] frog : what don't I get
[2017-04-07 09:51:00] mark121 : required to unfreeze the funds
[2017-04-07 09:52:25] frog : if there is a problem with source of funds could take a while
[2017-04-07 09:52:46] frog : but finex should have good paper trail
[2017-04-07 09:52:47] mark121 : ya, forever
[2017-04-07 09:53:06] mark121 : how can they prove all the btc exchanged to usd is not from criminalelement
[2017-04-07 09:53:08] mark121 : or laundering
[2017-04-07 09:53:09] TB : whats up
[2017-04-07 09:53:27] mark121 : and u can bet ur ass govt support them no matter
[2017-04-07 09:56:32] frog : could chinese people use finex as a backdoor to bypass china capital control regulations
[2017-04-07 09:56:45] justinlooking : B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 09:56:57] DangerandPlay : no
[2017-04-07 09:59:42] miccheck12 : can i withdraw crates of takamaka bay rum instead of btc?
[2017-04-07 10:05:24] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 10:05:26] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 23.16 / 76.84 Daily : 35.60 / 64.40 Weekly : 45.56 / 54.44 Monthly : 50.74 / 49.26```
[2017-04-07 10:23:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 285 @ 0.00882
[2017-04-07 10:24:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 12 @ 0.016730
[2017-04-07 10:26:19] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 10:26:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 28.53 / 71.47 Daily : 35.86 / 64.14 Weekly : 45.58 / 54.42 Monthly : 50.75 / 49.25```
[2017-04-07 10:34:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200 @ 1187.1
[2017-04-07 10:43:23] 123abc : What to do
[2017-04-07 10:43:35] 123abc : Long eth
[2017-04-07 10:48:20] 123abc : Maybe xmr is the best play
[2017-04-07 10:48:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 35 @ 0.00875