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[2017-04-07 03:59:48] aethlios : ltc safe heaven fpr now.
[2017-04-07 04:07:55] mark121 : ltc is nice
[2017-04-07 04:08:03] mark121 : relink ur chart aethlios
[2017-04-07 04:08:29] aethlios : ltc is decent, fair, transparent (all from tha start) and has a dev also.
[2017-04-07 04:08:58] aethlios : no instamine dash scam marketing amanda bublle.
[2017-04-07 04:09:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 75 @ 0.03736
[2017-04-07 04:13:55] mark121 : p.s. that h & s is very likely not accurate
[2017-04-07 04:14:06] mark121 : il try to show y
[2017-04-07 04:17:39] mark121 : the etf non sense definitely convalutes the picture
[2017-04-07 04:25:05] aethlios : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/E4RBuOAb/ https://www.tradingview.com/x/8kgzDyZK/
[2017-04-07 04:28:35] +1 : aethlios: BTC will drop to the 500 mark?
[2017-04-07 04:28:37] mark121 : you need it to touch the neckline
[2017-04-07 04:28:53] mark121 : it cud be mor eaccurate tha ni thought
[2017-04-07 04:29:14] mark121 : however id ask u to do a more zoomed in version
[2017-04-07 04:29:47] aethlios : +1: chart more wants to point the H&S in the daily end of the bull market possible pattern.
[2017-04-07 04:30:01] mark121 : as u typically want to find little versions of the pattern within the pattern
[2017-04-07 04:30:12] mark121 : that wud work in your favor
[2017-04-07 04:30:32] aethlios : the neck fits the support line channel from 170 usd also!!!!! coincidence????????
[2017-04-07 04:31:45] mark121 : Microsoft edge fuckin sucks
[2017-04-07 04:32:26] +1 : aethlios: May-June?
[2017-04-07 04:32:40] mark121 : ur left shoulder
[2017-04-07 04:32:58] mark121 : cant just be in middle of nowhere
[2017-04-07 04:33:08] aethlios : +1: right shoulder is half yet, so this chart is very fantasy now.
[2017-04-07 04:33:39] mark121 : may june is when markets shud crash, quite improbable to see btc bottom
[2017-04-07 04:33:49] mark121 : at that point
[2017-04-07 04:33:55] mark121 : june actually
[2017-04-07 04:34:02] mark121 : i digress
[2017-04-07 04:34:18] mark121 : i shal draw a workable version of ur hypothesis
[2017-04-07 04:34:49] mark121 : heres a possibility for right now
[2017-04-07 04:34:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/S09FXPCG/
[2017-04-07 04:37:29] MikeHunt : imo we are in a triangle
[2017-04-07 04:37:54] mark121 : pretty much always in one on some level
[2017-04-07 04:38:00] mark121 : how do u mean\
[2017-04-07 04:38:01] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/XbSn4ZkH/ 3D chart
[2017-04-07 04:38:08] mark121 : the pennant ?
[2017-04-07 04:38:33] mark121 : aethlios: ur neckline has to have clear touches
[2017-04-07 04:38:48] mark121 : u cant just draw it to fit some support line from 180 or whatever
[2017-04-07 04:39:03] mark121 : just for the heck of it
[2017-04-07 04:39:18] MikeHunt : draw line across top of etf humps
[2017-04-07 04:39:44] MikeHunt : draw support rail from under lowest part of finex dump, under pboc pump dump and etf lowest
[2017-04-07 04:40:17] mark121 : draw it out and link it
[2017-04-07 04:40:30] mark121 : only thing i consider ETF related
[2017-04-07 04:40:34] MikeHunt : i dont wanna give too much away
[2017-04-07 04:40:40] MikeHunt : but basically if u draw a pitchfork
[2017-04-07 04:40:43] MikeHunt : u should see what i mean
[2017-04-07 04:40:43] mark121 : r u kidding
[2017-04-07 04:40:52] MikeHunt : alright fine
[2017-04-07 04:41:45] mark121 : :)
[2017-04-07 04:41:50] mark121 : makes for more interesting discussio
[2017-04-07 04:42:04] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 04:42:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.67 / 55.33 Daily : 39.88 / 60.12 Weekly : 46.27 / 53.73 Monthly : 50.89 / 49.11```
[2017-04-07 04:42:56] MikeHunt : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/QjxIsqVi/
[2017-04-07 04:43:55] MikeHunt : could breakout way sooner than that thou
[2017-04-07 04:44:09] MikeHunt : perhaps not even touch bottom again
[2017-04-07 04:45:20] mark121 : wheres the triangle
[2017-04-07 04:46:16] mark121 : pretend I'm retarded :p
[2017-04-07 04:46:43] mark121 : *insert* rapidtrades comment
[2017-04-07 04:47:20] MikeHunt : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/gZXDOjfN/
[2017-04-07 04:51:10] mark121 : how can a pitchfork be used when its a broadening formation
[2017-04-07 04:51:26] mark121 : going back years
[2017-04-07 04:51:40] MikeHunt : use log scale?
[2017-04-07 04:53:43] mark121 : most wud say that log distorts in this case
[2017-04-07 04:53:55] mark121 : and in most
[2017-04-07 04:54:03] mark121 : while it has its benefits
[2017-04-07 04:54:21] MikeHunt : all i can say is pitchfork works
[2017-04-07 04:54:36] MikeHunt : looking back at charts before jan pump
[2017-04-07 04:54:39] mark121 : i kno ppl think that
[2017-04-07 04:54:44] mark121 : i tend to ask..
[2017-04-07 04:54:49] mark121 : what does it tell you?
[2017-04-07 04:55:09] MikeHunt : just gives u an idea of where btc will range
[2017-04-07 04:55:38] mark121 : yes upper and lower limit
[2017-04-07 04:55:43] mark121 : but
[2017-04-07 04:56:41] mark121 : let me try and visualize, its prob easier
[2017-04-07 04:57:43] mark121 : btc tends to move in wedges on larger timescales, for example all the movement on the downside since etf
[2017-04-07 04:57:52] mark121 : its 3 iterations of a fractal
[2017-04-07 04:57:57] mark121 : ever enlarging
[2017-04-07 04:58:03] mark121 : in a broadening wedge
[2017-04-07 04:58:41] MikeHunt : rising wedge?
[2017-04-07 04:58:44] mark121 : sure u can draw a nice channel in retrospect, i just don't see its application for a trading
[2017-04-07 04:59:21] mark121 : I'm not even sure it has enuf touches on the botto
[2017-04-07 04:59:43] mark121 : fore the downside, would be a descending broadening wedge
[2017-04-07 05:00:09] MikeHunt : well for day trading you apply a mini pitchfork
[2017-04-07 05:00:25] mark121 : k sec
[2017-04-07 05:03:49] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/zvpdX6GD/
[2017-04-07 05:04:00] mark121 : that is on log scale
[2017-04-07 05:04:38] mark121 : yet its failed to give u an accurate lower limit since august 16'
[2017-04-07 05:05:13] mark121 : and has the bare minimum amount of touches to even be considered a valid channel
[2017-04-07 05:06:01] MikeHunt : i use okc CNY for the bottom rail
[2017-04-07 05:06:24] MikeHunt : no indicator is perfect and works 100% of the time
[2017-04-07 05:06:32] MikeHunt : nor do i solely trade on pitchfork
[2017-04-07 05:06:33] mark121 : this isn't an indicator
[2017-04-07 05:06:41] mark121 : in that sense
[2017-04-07 05:06:49] jeeburns : any idea why there are hidden orders?
[2017-04-07 05:06:59] mark121 : meh MM can see them anyway
[2017-04-07 05:07:04] mark121 : so they aren't truly hidden
[2017-04-07 05:07:24] jeeburns : MM as in market maker or am i dumb?
[2017-04-07 05:07:34] mark121 : correct
[2017-04-07 05:07:40] mark121 : (to the first) :p
[2017-04-07 05:08:02] lorestr : incorrect (to the 2nd)
[2017-04-07 05:08:26] jeeburns : lol thanks
[2017-04-07 05:08:37] lorestr : sell xbtusd 1182.1 for 1170...easy money
[2017-04-07 05:09:05] mark121 : what im trying to say mikehunt is that a broadenin formation would suit ur overall idea a bit more accurately (as they tend to encompass an entire trend)
[2017-04-07 05:10:27] mark121 : excuse the first 6 words
[2017-04-07 05:10:30] mark121 : lmao
[2017-04-07 05:10:53] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-07 05:11:32] aethlios : ltc slowly recovery from twitter scammer
[2017-04-07 05:11:40] MikeHunt : aethlios: was he hacked?
[2017-04-07 05:11:53] aethlios : didn't comment.
[2017-04-07 05:12:25] lorestr : easy ltc price manipulation isn't it
[2017-04-07 05:14:01] mark121 : id agree that on larger timeframes we are in a symm triangle consolidation period that tends to come after the large bowl shape btc likes to do
[2017-04-07 05:14:19] aethlios : they can't make money other way, only stealing others with manipulating.
[2017-04-07 05:15:31] aethlios : you can go to jail for such comments if ltc was in a regulated exchange.
[2017-04-07 05:16:33] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/8fXEHkZW/
[2017-04-07 05:16:34] mark121 : aethlios
[2017-04-07 05:16:47] mark121 : that wud have to be ur neckline, at the very least
[2017-04-07 05:16:56] aethlios : after future expiration some action possible, new week begins
[2017-04-07 05:17:09] mark121 : those dips below it would be potential failures that recovered
[2017-04-07 05:17:27] mark121 : not uncommon
[2017-04-07 05:18:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 200 @ 0.03650
[2017-04-07 05:19:47] mark121 : MikeHunt: assuming u use other patterns this doesn't apply, but to those who use only a channel; they reallygive no indication of when the breakout wil occur
[2017-04-07 05:19:58] Vintage : Funding is in Minus so SHORTS pay right?
[2017-04-07 05:20:03] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-07 05:20:34] MikeHunt : mark121: you mean like out of the channel?
[2017-04-07 05:20:39] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-07 05:20:46] MikeHunt : yeh im not gonna try n guess that
[2017-04-07 05:20:53] MikeHunt : this is more for trading inside it
[2017-04-07 05:21:23] MikeHunt : u may also like my doom chart b4 etf
[2017-04-07 05:21:24] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1bFgl7Z.png
[2017-04-07 05:21:39] mark121 : even on log it seems more like a wedge (narrowing tho)
[2017-04-07 05:22:22] mark121 : and this gives u more touches
[2017-04-07 05:22:27] Dnavid : mark121: hi, don't see ur widening wedge. What time scale?
[2017-04-07 05:22:30] mark121 : and on smaller scales u can see this verified
[2017-04-07 05:22:37] mark121 : in how btc tends to move
[2017-04-07 05:22:57] mark121 : sometimes they ju scall em broadening formation the literature is inconsistent btw
[2017-04-07 05:23:04] mark121 : u cant use log
[2017-04-07 05:23:06] mark121 : but here
[2017-04-07 05:23:11] mark121 : any longer one
[2017-04-07 05:23:20] mark121 : encompass movement from july bottom
[2017-04-07 05:24:40] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/fPgSdECs/
[2017-04-07 05:24:48] mark121 : jus fyi i don't use them
[2017-04-07 05:24:55] mark121 : its jus for discussion
[2017-04-07 05:25:20] mark121 : and the lack of the recent missed bottom touches wud be explained as "partial declines"
[2017-04-07 05:25:35] mark121 : which tend to give a hint to breakout direction
[2017-04-07 05:25:55] mark121 : partial rise being the opposite, they can hint at a bottom breakout
[2017-04-07 05:26:58] mark121 : these type of patterns are essentially useless tho
[2017-04-07 05:27:03] Dnavid : mark121: gotcha
[2017-04-07 05:27:15] mark121 : u get a far more accurate picture looking closer
[2017-04-07 05:27:46] mark121 : just as the etf has proven, on that large of timescales, somethin macro could cause a breakout or failure
[2017-04-07 05:28:07] MikeHunt : mark121: http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-04-07 05:29:00] mark121 : u seem to actualy know enuf, but wtf is a china pump mean
[2017-04-07 05:29:02] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 05:29:07] mark121 : those aren't things
[2017-04-07 05:29:17] MikeHunt : mark121: china pumped 1/2 of btc
[2017-04-07 05:29:18] MikeHunt : basically
[2017-04-07 05:29:33] mark121 : TA is price and volume
[2017-04-07 05:29:41] mark121 : ignore anything else
[2017-04-07 05:29:51] MikeHunt : sicne pboc turned pumps off
[2017-04-07 05:29:59] MikeHunt : i did rough calc of where new support is
[2017-04-07 05:29:59] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 05:30:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 13.68 / 86.32 Daily : 39.21 / 60.80 Weekly : 46.21 / 53.79 Monthly : 50.86 / 49.14```
[2017-04-07 05:30:07] mark121 : turned pumps off?
[2017-04-07 05:30:11] mark121 : they turned off fake volume
[2017-04-07 05:30:19] MikeHunt : mark121: no more margin trading + capital restrictions
[2017-04-07 05:31:25] mark121 : all o fthose things (id argue most of it non consequential) are reflected within the chart naturally
[2017-04-07 05:32:00] MikeHunt : must be very subtly considering those things started ~jan9th
[2017-04-07 05:32:02] mark121 : especially because btc actualy went higher than it shud have based on pre pboc doctrine
[2017-04-07 05:32:24] mark121 : it doesn't mean those aren't both support
[2017-04-07 05:32:48] mark121 : one being more beefy as its older
[2017-04-07 05:33:51] mark121 : and why iis support higher now that no pumps? shudnt everything be way down?
[2017-04-07 05:34:07] mark121 : i think that's all nonsense
[2017-04-07 05:34:48] MikeHunt : manipulation imo
[2017-04-07 05:34:57] mark121 : sure, all of it though
[2017-04-07 05:34:59] MikeHunt : price is also largely down to faith
[2017-04-07 05:35:00] mark121 : is manipulation
[2017-04-07 05:35:22] mark121 : so is everything else
[2017-04-07 05:35:28] lorestr : who trades ripple?
[2017-04-07 05:35:28] MikeHunt : either a black swan (HF) or competition from alts will bring btc down
[2017-04-07 05:35:45] MikeHunt : especially if segwit doesnt pass
[2017-04-07 05:35:47] MikeHunt : or BU
[2017-04-07 05:36:04] mark121 : that doesn't explain why it hasn't plummeted without these supposed pumps
[2017-04-07 05:36:31] MikeHunt : mark121: again its all faith
[2017-04-07 05:36:42] mark121 : so is all money
[2017-04-07 05:36:50] mark121 : and everything else that has perceived value
[2017-04-07 05:36:52] frog : mark121: why do think it hasn't plummeted??
[2017-04-07 05:37:11] lorestr : /price
[2017-04-07 05:37:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1185.41 (-0.23%) Bitfinex : 1188.00 (-0.25%) The Woodchipper : 1181.44 (-0.95%) itBit : 1185.92 (-0.32%) Kraken : 1186.00 (-0.52%) GDAX : 1187.29 (-0.48%) SLQ : 2 hours, 40 mins```
[2017-04-07 05:37:15] mark121 : treasury notes have value because of faith in the US treasury
[2017-04-07 05:37:22] MikeHunt : mark121: indeed
[2017-04-07 05:37:29] MikeHunt : mark121: $ is overvalued
[2017-04-07 05:37:35] MikeHunt : like other fiat currencies
[2017-04-07 05:38:15] mark121 : pt is ur chinapump thing is uncessary
[2017-04-07 05:38:44] mark121 : they are just diff cycle supports, or partial decline that hint at an uppe rbreakout
[2017-04-07 05:39:04] MikeHunt : point is to try and find new bottom ;)
[2017-04-07 05:39:10] MikeHunt : if dump happen
[2017-04-07 05:39:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/1fxpqc0Q/
[2017-04-07 05:40:01] mark121 : why wud u need to calculate that lol
[2017-04-07 05:40:11] mark121 : i jus drew it :p
[2017-04-07 05:40:48] lorestr : mark121: well done
[2017-04-07 05:44:04] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-07 05:44:09] MikeHunt : well sorta sad in a way
[2017-04-07 05:44:16] MikeHunt : this could be the highest btc ever goes again
[2017-04-07 05:49:34] BitMEX_Arthur : We have two new prediction futures contracts that are now live
[2017-04-07 05:50:01] MikeHunt : B_BLOCKSZ17 ?
[2017-04-07 05:50:02] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/B_SEGWITZ17 https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 05:56:42] mark121 : mikehunt: that wud be reflected in massive distribution
[2017-04-07 05:57:02] KingTuna : I am hedging until there is direction
[2017-04-07 05:57:07] KingTuna : Happy with profits to date
[2017-04-07 05:58:35] Dnavid : mark121: Perhaps whales will keep pumping until all available fiat is holding then dump. The consumer "news" is still rosy and mooners are again bragging about their hodliness.
[2017-04-07 05:58:58] Tetsuo : korn quarterlys dumpin hard
[2017-04-07 05:59:04] Tetsuo : okkorn
[2017-04-07 06:00:24] CrazySteve : sentiment
[2017-04-07 06:00:40] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 06:00:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.68 / 44.32 Daily : 38.66 / 61.34 Weekly : 46.24 / 53.76 Monthly : 50.81 / 49.20```
[2017-04-07 06:05:08] Vintage : funding in minus shorts pay right?
[2017-04-07 06:06:17] aethlios : june okcoin premium went to zero in th edump from +40 a few hours before. so much bullshitness
[2017-04-07 06:06:42] aethlios : 2 hours for delivery
[2017-04-07 06:07:20] mark121 : lorestr: ty sir
[2017-04-07 06:07:28] Vintage : BitMEX_Arthur: when funding is minus who pays funding please?
[2017-04-07 06:08:21] BitMEX_Arthur : Vintage: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2017-04-07 06:08:36] mark121 : KingTuna: lol wecome to the top of the fence :0
[2017-04-07 06:08:39] BitMEX_Arthur : Shorts pay longs when the rate is negative, please read that to completely understand
[2017-04-07 06:10:01] mark121 : Dnavid: anything can happen but its premature, if fork happens its apparently in October so we got a ways to go
[2017-04-07 06:10:21] Dnavid : mark121: October? Why?
[2017-04-07 06:10:48] mark121 : that's when fork wud takeplace according to report i saw today
[2017-04-07 06:12:34] Dnavid : mark121: oh,ok
[2017-04-07 06:12:35] mark121 : alts are down and diving it seems
[2017-04-07 06:12:46] mark121 : btc up ?
[2017-04-07 06:12:50] Dnavid : noted the appointment in my calendar Oct 1st
[2017-04-07 06:15:01] mark121 : heh :]
[2017-04-07 06:15:20] Dnavid : mark121: https://coin.dance/blocks whenever any crosses 51% HF can happen and prolly will.
[2017-04-07 06:15:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 3000 @ 0.00933
[2017-04-07 06:15:23] KingTuna : mark121: Top of the fence eh?
[2017-04-07 06:15:32] mark121 : if u r hedged
[2017-04-07 06:15:36] mark121 : bothways
[2017-04-07 06:15:39] mark121 : as i was
[2017-04-07 06:15:43] mark121 : or am
[2017-04-07 06:15:55] mark121 : its a joke
[2017-04-07 06:16:20] mark121 : dnavid: i don't think it will
[2017-04-07 06:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 6 @ 0.00928
[2017-04-07 06:17:16] Dnavid : mark121: I meant, if it goes over 51%, fork will happen, not that fork will happen per se.
[2017-04-07 06:17:27] mark121 : i kno that lol
[2017-04-07 06:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00921
[2017-04-07 06:17:32] mark121 : u said probably will
[2017-04-07 06:18:12] Dnavid : mark121: sorry, didn't mean that.
[2017-04-07 06:18:24] mark121 : ah i underestand
[2017-04-07 06:18:30] mark121 : myb
[2017-04-07 06:19:40] mark121 : ju sbought some B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 06:20:01] mark121 : cus im a gangsta
[2017-04-07 06:20:34] mark121 : i have no idea what it is
[2017-04-07 06:21:13] Dnavid : mark121: think best proxy for for probability is BCU, which is quite down.
[2017-04-07 06:21:24] Dnavid : *for fork
[2017-04-07 06:21:42] mark121 : i own the only unit of B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 06:21:48] mark121 : available
[2017-04-07 06:22:00] mark121 : it is now for sale
[2017-04-07 06:22:45] men : good moment for short btc?
[2017-04-07 06:23:04] men : seems good
[2017-04-07 06:25:35] mark121 : short away homie
[2017-04-07 06:26:15] KingTuna : mark121: You think sir
[2017-04-07 06:26:23] mark121 : not rly
[2017-04-07 06:26:26] KingTuna : Id like to see a little more down odd finex price
[2017-04-07 06:26:33] KingTuna : off*
[2017-04-07 06:26:44] mark121 : btc looks up
[2017-04-07 06:26:46] hh : Buy Ripple Now
[2017-04-07 06:27:15] KingTuna : Buy Dribble now
[2017-04-07 06:27:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 1000 @ 0.00002782
[2017-04-07 06:27:57] hh : https://www.tradingview.com/x/BuWuuyhc/
[2017-04-07 06:28:03] lorestr : men: target 1165
[2017-04-07 06:28:17] lorestr : sell xbtusd
[2017-04-07 06:29:25] mark121 : cud see a mini h&s form heh
[2017-04-07 06:31:35] fallwater1024 : fuck
[2017-04-07 06:31:50] fallwater1024 : nima
[2017-04-07 06:33:41] mark121 : ltc cud seriously nose dive
[2017-04-07 06:33:59] SilverKnight : Morning all
[2017-04-07 06:34:02] SilverKnight : *yawn*
[2017-04-07 06:34:40] SilverKnight : looking like we are in no mans land on bTC...
[2017-04-07 06:34:47] SilverKnight : stuck between a long and a short
[2017-04-07 06:34:56] SilverKnight : I wouldn't touch it until its more clear
[2017-04-07 06:35:28] SilverKnight : wait for the obvious trade
[2017-04-07 06:36:03] SilverKnight : your money will be there if you wait... if you dont... it wont... :D
[2017-04-07 06:40:51] frog : just bought some btc
[2017-04-07 06:41:42] mark121 : im long too
[2017-04-07 06:42:13] frog : funding going up
[2017-04-07 06:42:25] lorestr : frog: what level?
[2017-04-07 06:42:34] lorestr : bought
[2017-04-07 06:42:58] frog : and manged to buy using limit order
[2017-04-07 06:43:02] frog : 1179
[2017-04-07 06:43:10] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-07 06:43:28] lorestr : and liquidation or stop?
[2017-04-07 06:43:50] frog : liq 1055 no stop
[2017-04-07 06:43:57] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 06:44:07] lorestr : so its ~1:30 right?
[2017-04-07 06:44:16] frog : 1:10
[2017-04-07 06:44:20] lorestr : ok
[2017-04-07 06:44:31] frog : isolated
[2017-04-07 06:45:13] lorestr : I will buy 1067
[2017-04-07 06:45:26] frog : but i already had some so may affect liquidation overall, not really sure
[2017-04-07 06:45:26] lorestr : mid point of your entry and liq
[2017-04-07 06:45:30] mark121 : no reason to think its going there
[2017-04-07 06:45:52] mark121 : in this moment
[2017-04-07 06:46:04] frog : lorestr: you mean 1167?
[2017-04-07 06:46:05] lorestr : mark121: the reason is we list momentum for up
[2017-04-07 06:46:11] lorestr : yes
[2017-04-07 06:46:15] lorestr : 1167
[2017-04-07 06:46:53] frog : mid point is around 1120
[2017-04-07 06:47:07] mark121 : even that may be unreachable
[2017-04-07 06:47:44] frog : markhunt disagrees we are now at highest point
[2017-04-07 06:47:46] mark121 : heh but much more likely than 1067
[2017-04-07 06:48:09] lorestr : the day is young
[2017-04-07 06:49:46] mark121 : heh nah alts r going up, cud happn sooner than later :)
[2017-04-07 06:50:41] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/6dVaeKpW/
[2017-04-07 06:51:10] mark121 : its possible that it got the moment for the up move by breaking this trendline
[2017-04-07 06:51:11] frog : mark121: you're long and short though..
[2017-04-07 06:51:21] mark121 : imomentum*
[2017-04-07 06:51:34] mark121 : and thus it wud now act as sup[port
[2017-04-07 06:51:43] mark121 : nh i closed my short in 70's
[2017-04-07 06:51:55] frog : thats sort of what I think
[2017-04-07 06:52:05] frog : but different maths
[2017-04-07 06:52:42] lorestr : http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/04/07/bitcoin-price-technical-analysis-04072017-supported-risk-off-flows/
[2017-04-07 06:53:53] mark121 : not sure bout his TA lol
[2017-04-07 06:54:11] frog : he said down
[2017-04-07 06:54:32] frog : but had a lot of padding
[2017-04-07 06:54:35] lorestr : mark121: in any market we have no sure thing lol
[2017-04-07 06:54:42] frog : no
[2017-04-07 06:54:55] KyllingLolsson : My general philosopy is, whenever anything is very optimistic and euphoric, that's when to take a step back
[2017-04-07 06:55:18] mark121 : and the opposite of that is currently the scernario
[2017-04-07 06:55:34] frog : i like mark121 approach just trade the numbers and ignore the noise
[2017-04-07 06:55:38] mark121 : every1 thinks btc is dying or dead
[2017-04-07 06:55:47] mark121 : yep
[2017-04-07 06:56:00] jose : mark121: i guess i am not every1 then
[2017-04-07 06:56:11] mark121 : its not literal
[2017-04-07 06:56:13] frog : definitely dead, has been confirmed here many times
[2017-04-07 06:57:09] frog : every downtick confirms its death
[2017-04-07 06:57:09] mark121 : lol:)
[2017-04-07 06:57:25] brouk : btc has died many times already
[2017-04-07 06:58:16] lorestr : when I have to pay 0.003BTC fee to bitmex for withdrawal I see btc dead too
[2017-04-07 06:58:44] KyllingLolsson : Btc will never die
[2017-04-07 06:59:02] brouk : lorestr: i think youre paying that fee to miners not bitmex
[2017-04-07 06:59:16] lorestr : brouk: hell knows
[2017-04-07 06:59:33] frog : hopefully not to the jihan cartel
[2017-04-07 06:59:35] miccheck12 : bitmex doen't take fees for withdrawal.
[2017-04-07 06:59:48] miccheck12 : *doesn't
[2017-04-07 06:59:51] lorestr : miccheck12: they take nothing only our BTC
[2017-04-07 06:59:58] miccheck12 : that's fake news
[2017-04-07 07:02:56] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 07:02:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 29.71 / 70.29 Daily : 39.56 / 60.44 Weekly : 46.23 / 53.77 Monthly : 50.80 / 49.20```
[2017-04-07 07:10:43] lorestr : after 1h sentiment (hourly) will be the opposite
[2017-04-07 07:10:55] lorestr : lets see :)
[2017-04-07 07:21:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 31581 @ 1185.4
[2017-04-07 07:23:06] lorestr : someone lost 1btc
[2017-04-07 07:23:18] lorestr : with 100x
[2017-04-07 07:23:32] herpinator : ripperino
[2017-04-07 07:23:51] panmex : anny admin here ? i need some help ?
[2017-04-07 07:23:57] BitMEX_John : panmex: here :)
[2017-04-07 07:25:33] panmex : BitMEX_John: my BTC withdraw is not jet processed from yesetrday ? is thaht normal ?
[2017-04-07 07:26:20] aethlios : china -157
[2017-04-07 07:26:33] mark121 : there we go
[2017-04-07 07:26:51] elmorte : BitMEX_John: hey John, how come the open value on the B_BLOCKSZ17 is less than the nominal size of 1 contract?
[2017-04-07 07:27:24] BitMEX_John : panmex: did you confirm by clicking the link in the withdrawal confirmation email?
[2017-04-07 07:27:55] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: The open value is just the value of the open interest at the current mark price
[2017-04-07 07:28:08] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: cheers Wally
[2017-04-07 07:29:13] panmex : BitMEX_John: yes i did. you can see here my withdrawl http://prntscr.com/eth31w
[2017-04-07 07:29:15] BitMEX_Wally : panmex: Withdrawals are processed at 13:00 UTC, looks like your withdrawal request was confirmed at 13:07 UTC
[2017-04-07 07:29:53] panmex : ohhh thats why
[2017-04-07 07:29:56] panmex : thanks
[2017-04-07 07:30:17] NODEX : is bitmex based in hk?
[2017-04-07 07:31:22] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: Sam said you built an automatic deweighting mechanism into the new index. can you please open source it or publish more details on how it works?
[2017-04-07 07:34:20] aethlios : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/850247652029513730
[2017-04-07 07:35:42] macro : Hi, I'm trying to create a pegged order via the API explorer - but I keep getting an "Unsupported ordType" error response. Are pegged orders still supported? Thanks
[2017-04-07 07:35:49] lorestr : aethlios: that means btc down
[2017-04-07 07:36:14] lorestr : to 800
[2017-04-07 07:36:17] aethlios : lorestr: and we have to leave okcoin futures maybe.
[2017-04-07 07:37:56] zqooN : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz
[2017-04-07 07:45:09] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 07:45:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 20.27 / 79.73 Daily : 39.20 / 60.80 Weekly : 46.18 / 53.82 Monthly : 50.82 / 49.18```
[2017-04-07 07:45:17] CrazySteve : /price
[2017-04-07 07:45:18] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1186.00 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1191.80 (0.32%) The Woodchipper : 1187.04 (0.47%) itBit : 1185.09 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1188.97 (0.25%) GDAX : 1188.10 (0.07%) SLQ : 2 hours, 8 mins```
[2017-04-07 07:46:08] Ahhere : aethlios: u think it will affect bitmex?
[2017-04-07 07:46:51] aethlios : more clients, i think if this is true for huobi, okcoin maybe will do th esame.
[2017-04-07 07:47:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2 @ 1189.3 :punch: :whale:
[2017-04-07 07:47:22] aethlios : wait a stupid recovery in okcoin
[2017-04-07 07:47:35] hh : I believe it is last chance to buy Ripple before weekend rally.
[2017-04-07 07:47:42] Tetsuo : aethlios: o´m withdrawin everything now
[2017-04-07 07:48:09] aethlios : Tetsuo: me too, wait positions to close.
[2017-04-07 07:49:27] aethlios : has anyone huobi account to see the message???
[2017-04-07 07:51:58] aethlios : Tetsuo: -165 china, a joke exchanges.
[2017-04-07 07:51:58] miccheck12 : will there be a statement from bitmex regarding HK exchanges stop of withdrawals?
[2017-04-07 07:52:27] jose : trump going crazy, bitcoin will go up
[2017-04-07 07:55:06] BitMEX_John : miccheck12: BitMEX is incorporated in the Seychelles, but I will pass your question onto the team
[2017-04-07 07:55:28] Tetsuo : aethlios: withdrawls still working @ okkoin.com, will remove the rest after the settlement
[2017-04-07 07:55:31] Rado : what is the BLOCKS bianry?
[2017-04-07 07:55:55] aethlios : Tetsuo: yes me too. maybe a few hours left
[2017-04-07 07:55:56] miccheck12 : Thanks John, i thought bitmex was based in hk for some reason..
[2017-04-07 07:56:11] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 07:56:13] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 20.18 / 79.82 Daily : 39.02 / 60.98 Weekly : 46.17 / 53.83 Monthly : 50.81 / 49.19```
[2017-04-07 07:57:35] mark121 : finally
[2017-04-07 07:58:12] brouk : /fork
[2017-04-07 07:58:13] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 1089.30 (0.03%) Bitfinex BCU : 118.94 (17.74%) SLQ : 9 hours, 48 mins```
[2017-04-07 07:58:48] Tetsuo : sleger rapidtrades, rado , j8 GET OUT OF OKKOIN.COM!!!
[2017-04-07 07:59:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2979 @ 1192.0
[2017-04-07 07:59:21] mark121 : what is time over there
[2017-04-07 07:59:39] mark121 : when is withdrawl deadline
[2017-04-07 08:00:06] Tetsuo : nothing said so far, but bitvc has stopped withdrawls without warning
[2017-04-07 08:00:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 1192.5
[2017-04-07 08:00:57] Tetsuo : u can withdraw your settlement profits in 30 minutes i think, everything else i have already withdrawn
[2017-04-07 08:01:30] lockhedge : it's relatively irrelevant where a company is registered. what matters is the principle place of business. it seems that China doesn't not see BitVC as a HK-based company.
[2017-04-07 08:04:20] elmorte : aethlios: I have a huobi acc
[2017-04-07 08:04:30] aethlios : Tetsuo: do you think finex could have issues??
[2017-04-07 08:04:43] aethlios : elmorte: what is th esituation??
[2017-04-07 08:05:10] ross : Can someone check settlement time for etc please. It doesn't show on mobile
[2017-04-07 08:05:11] Tetsuo : aethlios: i haven´t traded@ Finex for over 2 years
[2017-04-07 08:05:19] Tetsuo : movin funds to polo/Bitstamp and BTC-E now
[2017-04-07 08:05:35] Tetsuo : ross: 4h
[2017-04-07 08:05:36] elmorte : aethlios: no notification
[2017-04-07 08:05:43] ross : Tetsuo: thanks
[2017-04-07 08:05:50] aethlios : Tetsuo: i don't trust btc-e and stamp expensive no margin.
[2017-04-07 08:06:05] elmorte : I haven't verified to C2 as required recently
[2017-04-07 08:06:22] Tetsuo : aethlios: i don´t trust olo or BTC-E, but it´s safer there than @ okkoin.com now :-)
[2017-04-07 08:06:36] elmorte : been meaning to, to see if I can arb China and the west, just haven't had the time
[2017-04-07 08:06:42] Tetsuo : aethlios: i will use Stamp just to convert my profits into USD
[2017-04-07 08:06:44] aethlios : elmorte: https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/850247652029513730 that??
[2017-04-07 08:07:26] elmorte : Nothing about it on huobi.com
[2017-04-07 08:07:47] Tetsuo : it´s on bitvc homepage, right at the top
[2017-04-07 08:08:15] Tetsuo : those assholes
[2017-04-07 08:08:38] Tetsuo : "sorry for the inconvnience"
[2017-04-07 08:10:12] aethlios : Tetsuo: stupid pumpers keep pumping
[2017-04-07 08:10:30] lorestr : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 08:10:32] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 32.93 / 67.07 Daily : 39.00 / 61.00 Weekly : 46.22 / 53.78 Monthly : 50.83 / 49.17```
[2017-04-07 08:12:09] Tetsuo : USDT fukked?
[2017-04-07 08:12:30] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/63y5uj/daily_discussion_friday_april_07_2017/dfy3k1m/
[2017-04-07 08:12:53] Tetsuo : everything is going to shit
[2017-04-07 08:14:04] Tetsuo : https://www.law360.com/articles/910505
[2017-04-07 08:14:08] Tetsuo : Finex fukked
[2017-04-07 08:14:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 900 @ 1194.2
[2017-04-07 08:14:33] Tetsuo : "which clocks in at a combined $180 million in deposits. iFinex Inc. and Tether Ltd. on Wednesday said that Wells Fargo recently stopped servicing "
[2017-04-07 08:15:13] Tetsuo : dinding , settlement withdrawls are now possible, time to leave the sinking ship
[2017-04-07 08:16:10] Dnavid : 6000BTC sell wall on in itBit. Guess no one is buying, or we would see crash?
[2017-04-07 08:17:51] lockhedge : Tetsuo: they still serve US customers?
[2017-04-07 08:19:31] Tetsuo : lockhedge: Finex?
[2017-04-07 08:19:39] Tetsuo : Yes i think so
[2017-04-07 08:25:45] elmorte : Meanwhile on localbitcoins, price is CNY 8150/8300
[2017-04-07 08:26:54] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 08:26:57] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 24.21 / 75.79 Daily : 38.36 / 61.64 Weekly : 46.10 / 53.90 Monthly : 50.83 / 49.17```
[2017-04-07 08:27:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 15 @ 0.055652
[2017-04-07 08:28:47] Tetsuo : aethlios my post settlement withdraw is pending for 15 minutes now, yours too?
[2017-04-07 08:29:21] aethlios : Tetsuo: i just did them was in futures and had to pass 15 minutes
[2017-04-07 08:31:12] mark121 : here we go
[2017-04-07 08:31:56] Dnavid : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 08:31:59] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 19.06 / 80.94 Daily : 37.90 / 62.10 Weekly : 46.02 / 53.98 Monthly : 50.82 / 49.19```
[2017-04-07 08:32:14] KingTuna : 1205 I'll be convinced
[2017-04-07 08:32:37] mark121 : 1215 for moi
[2017-04-07 08:32:44] veritas : "Pump your mother, if you want pump" - Jihan Wu
[2017-04-07 08:32:58] KyllingLolsson : I missed this one. Wait for next long entry
[2017-04-07 08:33:51] mark121 : enter now or forever hold your peace
[2017-04-07 08:34:28] Dnavid : mark121: you made me into a long, I'll never forgive you but maybe if enough profits.
[2017-04-07 08:34:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 25 @ 0.03588
[2017-04-07 08:35:47] mark121 : lol jus following the chart is all
[2017-04-07 08:36:12] KyllingLolsson : What is that new biniary contract?
[2017-04-07 08:36:18] 123abc : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/850247652029513730
[2017-04-07 08:36:30] 123abc : wonder if okc futures is going to suspend withdraws soon
[2017-04-07 08:37:25] 123abc : bitstamp btc new high
[2017-04-07 08:37:39] Tetsuo : 20m still "pending"
[2017-04-07 08:37:55] mark121 : how much u got on there
[2017-04-07 08:38:23] Tetsuo : 10k left, main stash already withdrawn this morning
[2017-04-07 08:39:17] mark121 : \dip???
[2017-04-07 08:39:53] aethlios : Tetsuo: me too still pending, maybe hot wallet empty.
[2017-04-07 08:40:57] Tetsuo : contactin support right now
[2017-04-07 08:41:31] mark121 : fake dip or real, only ggod knows but i sold
[2017-04-07 08:41:40] mark121 : maybe i got tricked
[2017-04-07 08:42:00] Tetsuo : "I am sorry, there are a lot of cusomer is withdrawing now. Please wait for a moment."
[2017-04-07 08:43:32] atlanta : Tell me exactly how this is not gonna turn into shit if Bitfinex will be ordered to halt withdrawals as well ?
[2017-04-07 08:44:12] Tetsuo : everything will burn
[2017-04-07 08:44:57] atlanta : Then where is the market reaction of solely the chance of this happening?
[2017-04-07 08:44:59] mark121 : thisis good fake new
[2017-04-07 08:45:06] mark121 : as in.. real news lol
[2017-04-07 08:45:11] mark121 : but dip forcing news
[2017-04-07 08:45:15] Dnavid : Can we try and think this through? Customers in exchanges at risk are buying bitcoin to transfer to other exchanges. So this is actually short-term bullish, isn't it?
[2017-04-07 08:45:36] mark121 : huh
[2017-04-07 08:45:36] Tetsuo : Dnavid: for bitvc customers it´s already too late
[2017-04-07 08:45:47] Tetsuo : okkoin.com and finex custoomers might be buyin right now to get out
[2017-04-07 08:46:00] men : time to short
[2017-04-07 08:46:06] mark121 : buying to get out?
[2017-04-07 08:46:06] Tetsuo : men: done
[2017-04-07 08:46:16] mark121 : i shorted at 1197
[2017-04-07 08:46:21] Tetsuo : mark121: convert USD to BTC/LTC withdraw to solid western exchanges?
[2017-04-07 08:46:22] men : me too
[2017-04-07 08:46:26] men : 1196
[2017-04-07 08:46:50] mark121 : ah thought that might flag u guys for punishment in future or somethiung
[2017-04-07 08:47:00] atlanta : Tetsuo: ""I am sorry, there are a lot of cusomer is withdrawing now. Please wait for a moment." where was this from ?
[2017-04-07 08:47:09] Tetsuo : atlanta: okkoin.com support
[2017-04-07 08:47:48] Dnavid : mark121: yep, buying to get out. No?
[2017-04-07 08:48:59] mark121 : i hear ya
[2017-04-07 08:49:28] mark121 : however accumulation straight down so short for now
[2017-04-07 08:49:29] lockhedge : Tetsuo: Bitfinex is now based in Taiwan, according to their complaint https://dlbjbjzgnk95t.cloudfront.net/0910000/910505/https-ecf-cand-uscourts-gov-doc1-035115321747.pdf
[2017-04-07 08:50:22] Tetsuo : lockhedge: ok, thx for the update, but there is still wells fargo blocking 180m in withdrawls from ifinex
[2017-04-07 08:50:41] Tetsuo : USDtether related
[2017-04-07 08:50:49] aethlios : Tetsuo: they can't block the money, maybe they ask them to change bank.
[2017-04-07 08:50:53] Dnavid : mark121: k
[2017-04-07 08:50:55] mark121 : the end is near
[2017-04-07 08:50:59] mark121 : they can freeze the funds
[2017-04-07 08:51:22] Tetsuo : if criminal activity, then probably yes