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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-04-07 02:29:04] mark121 : oh god [2017-04-07 02:29:07] mark121 : its going down for sure [2017-04-07 02:29:12] mark121 : lol [2017-04-07 02:29:35] MikeHunt : what i can see on graph thou is btc seems to be loosing momentum as price goes up [2017-04-07 02:29:51] mark121 : momentumcomes and goes [2017-04-07 02:29:52] michn1ght : yup, polo break 1200 barrier hahahah lol :D greatttttt [2017-04-07 02:30:52] michn1ght : soon here will break the barrier too :D [2017-04-07 02:31:37] mark121 : thinking from the perspective of those in control.. u want to do the opposite of what the majority is thinking [2017-04-07 02:32:23] michn1ght : still increase and break more barrier :D [2017-04-07 02:32:24] michn1ght : love this [2017-04-07 02:32:24] mark121 : it sure seems like they are setting up a short squeeze here - chart shows bullis patterns [2017-04-07 02:32:44] MikeHunt : mark121: maybe thats what every is expecting thou [2017-04-07 02:32:59] mark121 : they are expecting it to drop [2017-04-07 02:33:00] mark121 : yes [2017-04-07 02:33:05] mark121 : so the opposite isup [2017-04-07 02:33:40] frog : mark121: i dont see the squeeze [2017-04-07 02:33:43] mark121 : double reverse psychology is possible but difficult in application [2017-04-07 02:33:46] Diplomata : /price [2017-04-07 02:33:48] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1194.93 (0.25%) Bitfinex : 1198.30 (0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1197.99 (0.26%) itBit : 1194.28 (0.14%) Kraken : 1196.73 (0.23%) GDAX : 1198.99 (0.41%) SLQ : 21 mins``` [2017-04-07 02:33:52] mark121 : how can u see it? [2017-04-07 02:34:07] MikeHunt : for all we know the biggest whale gets his kids to draw graphs [2017-04-07 02:34:09] MikeHunt : puts it into bot [2017-04-07 02:34:10] mark121 : until the rally kicks off, and inthat caseull see it in panic buys to cover [2017-04-07 02:34:27] mark121 : MikeHunt: u seem to bbe blinded by negative outlook [2017-04-07 02:34:32] frog : not a lot of selling and looks like short covering happened earlier [2017-04-07 02:34:57] MikeHunt : mark121: well i am a dure negative cunt [2017-04-07 02:34:59] mark121 : that dosnt mean anything [2017-04-07 02:35:02] mark121 : frog [2017-04-07 02:35:22] mark121 : most ppl shorting 1200 wont cover until 1210 1215 [2017-04-07 02:35:32] MikeHunt : what ppl r forgetting [2017-04-07 02:35:37] MikeHunt : okc wkly in a few hours [2017-04-07 02:35:46] frog : but here haven't been that many of them [2017-04-07 02:35:46] MikeHunt : weekend soon = no fiat [2017-04-07 02:35:59] mark121 : here doesnt matter [2017-04-07 02:36:02] mark121 : lol [2017-04-07 02:36:06] mark121 : in the grand scheme [2017-04-07 02:36:28] mark121 : im cautious as im not sure what others think [2017-04-07 02:36:33] mark121 : im going off a small sample size [2017-04-07 02:36:41] mark121 : but with fork fud [2017-04-07 02:36:49] mark121 : im inclined to assume outlook is fearful [2017-04-07 02:38:47] frog : how much volume does jihan control? [2017-04-07 02:40:34] frog : i closed half my long [2017-04-07 02:41:15] mark121 : lol [2017-04-07 02:41:55] MikeHunt : also if u look on 1hr [2017-04-07 02:41:58] MikeHunt : zoomed out [2017-04-07 02:42:00] MikeHunt : big W [2017-04-07 02:42:17] mark121 : lol [2017-04-07 02:42:26] MikeHunt : need to dribble right to draw it proiperly [2017-04-07 02:42:41] mark121 : u only see stuff that confirms ur sentiment it seems lol [2017-04-07 02:43:10] MikeHunt : i just think its too early to go parabollic [2017-04-07 02:44:39] mark121 : im undecided atm but what does that mean to early [2017-04-07 02:44:45] mark121 : btc was nearly 1400 [2017-04-07 02:44:50] mark121 : and we hit 875ish [2017-04-07 02:45:02] frog : MikeHunt: have you taken a position yet? [2017-04-07 02:45:13] MikeHunt : frog: short [2017-04-07 02:45:24] frog : what was entry price? [2017-04-07 02:45:28] mark121 : that makes sense [2017-04-07 02:45:29] MikeHunt : ~1190 [2017-04-07 02:45:36] frog : GL [2017-04-07 02:45:58] MikeHunt : i went easy on lvg so shouldnt be difficult to average if necessary [2017-04-07 02:46:01] mark121 : dash is up so [2017-04-07 02:46:04] MikeHunt : and swign out [2017-04-07 02:46:06] mark121 : cud be a goo dmove [2017-04-07 02:46:08] MikeHunt : swing* [2017-04-07 02:46:21] mark121 : oh [2017-04-07 02:47:41] KingTuna : I am short on low leverage and have started to take positions in XRP , alts vert small albeit [2017-04-07 02:48:48] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/13DUsHbf/ [2017-04-07 02:49:07] mark121 : before last few weeks this wud be an easy all-in [2017-04-07 02:49:30] mark121 : jus based on that probabky pennant [2017-04-07 02:49:33] MikeHunt : mark121: whats with the triangle? [2017-04-07 02:50:07] mark121 : thats nothing, ju happenes to look like one [2017-04-07 02:50:15] MikeHunt : o right [2017-04-07 02:50:36] MikeHunt : imo the only exchange that matters is the one being pumped [2017-04-07 02:53:36] frog : getting some down volume now [2017-04-07 02:54:31] aethlios : How much of the hashing power is signaling CSV support? NEW! About 2110 GH/s, or 73.6% of the network (368 out of the last 500 blocks). How much of the hashing power is signaling SegWit support? NEW! About 2047 GH/s, or 71.4% of the network (357 out of the last 500 blocks). [2017-04-07 02:54:57] aethlios : next SW period is th eimportant, can't make it now. [2017-04-07 02:56:51] binacoin : /price [2017-04-07 02:56:53] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1188.15 (-0.57%) Bitfinex : 1191.00 (-0.61%) The Woodchipper : 1192.72 (-0.44%) itBit : 1189.73 (-0.38%) Kraken : 1192.23 (-0.38%) GDAX : 1193.00 (-0.50%) SLQ : 23 mins``` [2017-04-07 02:59:36] mark121 : im both long n short now [2017-04-07 03:00:07] KingTuna : mark121: Alt positions? [2017-04-07 03:00:27] mark121 : diff exchanges/accts [2017-04-07 03:00:37] mark121 : btc [2017-04-07 03:01:53] mark121 : xrp is scary [2017-04-07 03:03:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCM17`: buy 9800 @ 7792.3 [2017-04-07 03:05:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 61122 @ 1188.7 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2017-04-07 03:05:29] mark121 : closed and long alts [2017-04-07 03:06:08] mark121 : pro stil fake lol [2017-04-07 03:07:18] mark121 : i wik reopen if i tmakes sense [2017-04-07 03:08:20] mark121 : id prefer it to g odown still [2017-04-07 03:13:10] MikeHunt : trump just bombed syria [2017-04-07 03:14:31] mark121 : i said that alrdy [2017-04-07 03:14:47] mark121 : lol [2017-04-07 03:16:56] laisee : Hotel stocks in Syria down or up? [2017-04-07 03:17:01] MikeHunt : i thought u said he was going to [2017-04-07 03:17:05] MikeHunt : didnt think he'd actually do it [2017-04-07 03:17:14] mark121 : nah he did [2017-04-07 03:17:17] mark121 : but russia was warned [2017-04-07 03:17:23] mark121 : so no ww3 yet [2017-04-07 03:17:37] MikeHunt : wonder how iran will view this [2017-04-07 03:17:44] MikeHunt : they have defense pact with syria [2017-04-07 03:17:53] laisee : Good thing Putin answers his phone [2017-04-07 03:18:08] MikeHunt : apparently US officials were talking with russians before hand [2017-04-07 03:18:15] MikeHunt : i wouldnt be surprised if the base was empty [2017-04-07 03:19:03] mark121 : ya vs israel [2017-04-07 03:19:06] mark121 : not vs the US [2017-04-07 03:19:16] laisee : 60m to send a message and help trump avoid the Russian scandal till next week, nice [2017-04-07 03:19:21] KingTuna : BTC not yet convincingly down and out [2017-04-07 03:19:57] mark121 : nope tis not [2017-04-07 03:20:01] mark121 : /sentiment [2017-04-07 03:20:03] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.94 / 33.06 Daily : 38.85 / 61.15 Weekly : 46.29 / 53.71 Monthly : 51.00 / 49.00``` [2017-04-07 03:20:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 20000 @ 1187.2 [2017-04-07 03:33:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 1384 @ 0.00956 [2017-04-07 03:35:22] uej : Is cross leverage better? [2017-04-07 03:39:27] daniellayton : I'm using bitcoinforcast.com with this website it seems to work on short term trades . [2017-04-07 03:41:08] daniellayton : http://www.bitcoinforecast.com/poloniex [2017-04-07 03:45:19] daniellayton : http://www.altcoinforecast.com/dash [2017-04-07 03:53:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1180.2 [2017-04-07 03:53:35] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen! [2017-04-07 03:53:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 1180.2 [2017-04-07 03:56:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7200 @ 1178.9 [2017-04-07 03:57:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 180 @ 1170.2 [2017-04-07 03:57:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 1178.1 [2017-04-07 03:57:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4000 @ 1178.1 [2017-04-07 03:58:03] mark121 : woot [2017-04-07 03:58:18] mark121 : gues i made right choice for now.. [2017-04-07 03:58:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 19 @ 0.017076 [2017-04-07 03:58:37] mark121 : now that i said it, super rally lol [2017-04-07 03:59:48] aethlios : ltc safe heaven fpr now. [2017-04-07 04:07:55] mark121 : ltc is nice [2017-04-07 04:08:03] mark121 : relink ur chart aethlios [2017-04-07 04:08:29] aethlios : ltc is decent, fair, transparent (all from tha start) and has a dev also. [2017-04-07 04:08:58] aethlios : no instamine dash scam marketing amanda bublle. [2017-04-07 04:09:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 75 @ 0.03736 [2017-04-07 04:13:55] mark121 : p.s. that h & s is very likely not accurate [2017-04-07 04:14:06] mark121 : il try to show y [2017-04-07 04:17:39] mark121 : the etf non sense definitely convalutes the picture [2017-04-07 04:25:05] aethlios : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/E4RBuOAb/ https://www.tradingview.com/x/8kgzDyZK/ [2017-04-07 04:28:35] +1 : aethlios: BTC will drop to the 500 mark? [2017-04-07 04:28:37] mark121 : you need it to touch the neckline [2017-04-07 04:28:53] mark121 : it cud be mor eaccurate tha ni thought [2017-04-07 04:29:14] mark121 : however id ask u to do a more zoomed in version [2017-04-07 04:29:47] aethlios : +1: chart more wants to point the H&S in the daily end of the bull market possible pattern. [2017-04-07 04:30:01] mark121 : as u typically want to find little versions of the pattern within the pattern [2017-04-07 04:30:12] mark121 : that wud work in your favor [2017-04-07 04:30:32] aethlios : the neck fits the support line channel from 170 usd also!!!!! coincidence???????? [2017-04-07 04:31:45] mark121 : Microsoft edge fuckin sucks [2017-04-07 04:32:26] +1 : aethlios: May-June? [2017-04-07 04:32:40] mark121 : ur left shoulder [2017-04-07 04:32:58] mark121 : cant just be in middle of nowhere [2017-04-07 04:33:08] aethlios : +1: right shoulder is half yet, so this chart is very fantasy now. [2017-04-07 04:33:39] mark121 : may june is when markets shud crash, quite improbable to see btc bottom [2017-04-07 04:33:49] mark121 : at that point [2017-04-07 04:33:55] mark121 : june actually [2017-04-07 04:34:02] mark121 : i digress [2017-04-07 04:34:18] mark121 : i shal draw a workable version of ur hypothesis [2017-04-07 04:34:49] mark121 : heres a possibility for right now [2017-04-07 04:34:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/S09FXPCG/ [2017-04-07 04:37:29] MikeHunt : imo we are in a triangle [2017-04-07 04:37:54] mark121 : pretty much always in one on some level [2017-04-07 04:38:00] mark121 : how do u mean\ [2017-04-07 04:38:01] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/XbSn4ZkH/ 3D chart [2017-04-07 04:38:08] mark121 : the pennant ? [2017-04-07 04:38:33] mark121 : aethlios: ur neckline has to have clear touches [2017-04-07 04:38:48] mark121 : u cant just draw it to fit some support line from 180 or whatever [2017-04-07 04:39:03] mark121 : just for the heck of it [2017-04-07 04:39:18] MikeHunt : draw line across top of etf humps [2017-04-07 04:39:44] MikeHunt : draw support rail from under lowest part of finex dump, under pboc pump dump and etf lowest [2017-04-07 04:40:17] mark121 : draw it out and link it [2017-04-07 04:40:30] mark121 : only thing i consider ETF related [2017-04-07 04:40:34] MikeHunt : i dont wanna give too much away [2017-04-07 04:40:40] MikeHunt : but basically if u draw a pitchfork [2017-04-07 04:40:43] MikeHunt : u should see what i mean [2017-04-07 04:40:43] mark121 : r u kidding [2017-04-07 04:40:52] MikeHunt : alright fine [2017-04-07 04:41:45] mark121 : :) [2017-04-07 04:41:50] mark121 : makes for more interesting discussio [2017-04-07 04:42:04] L9 : /sentiment [2017-04-07 04:42:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.67 / 55.33 Daily : 39.88 / 60.12 Weekly : 46.27 / 53.73 Monthly : 50.89 / 49.11``` [2017-04-07 04:42:56] MikeHunt : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/QjxIsqVi/ [2017-04-07 04:43:55] MikeHunt : could breakout way sooner than that thou [2017-04-07 04:44:09] MikeHunt : perhaps not even touch bottom again [2017-04-07 04:45:20] mark121 : wheres the triangle [2017-04-07 04:46:16] mark121 : pretend I'm retarded :p [2017-04-07 04:46:43] mark121 : *insert* rapidtrades comment [2017-04-07 04:47:20] MikeHunt : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/gZXDOjfN/ [2017-04-07 04:51:10] mark121 : how can a pitchfork be used when its a broadening formation [2017-04-07 04:51:26] mark121 : going back years [2017-04-07 04:51:40] MikeHunt : use log scale? [2017-04-07 04:53:43] mark121 : most wud say that log distorts in this case [2017-04-07 04:53:55] mark121 : and in most [2017-04-07 04:54:03] mark121 : while it has its benefits [2017-04-07 04:54:21] MikeHunt : all i can say is pitchfork works [2017-04-07 04:54:36] MikeHunt : looking back at charts before jan pump [2017-04-07 04:54:39] mark121 : i kno ppl think that [2017-04-07 04:54:44] mark121 : i tend to ask.. [2017-04-07 04:54:49] mark121 : what does it tell you? [2017-04-07 04:55:09] MikeHunt : just gives u an idea of where btc will range [2017-04-07 04:55:38] mark121 : yes upper and lower limit [2017-04-07 04:55:43] mark121 : but [2017-04-07 04:56:41] mark121 : let me try and visualize, its prob easier [2017-04-07 04:57:43] mark121 : btc tends to move in wedges on larger timescales, for example all the movement on the downside since etf [2017-04-07 04:57:52] mark121 : its 3 iterations of a fractal [2017-04-07 04:57:57] mark121 : ever enlarging [2017-04-07 04:58:03] mark121 : in a broadening wedge [2017-04-07 04:58:41] MikeHunt : rising wedge? [2017-04-07 04:58:44] mark121 : sure u can draw a nice channel in retrospect, i just don't see its application for a trading [2017-04-07 04:59:21] mark121 : I'm not even sure it has enuf touches on the botto [2017-04-07 04:59:43] mark121 : fore the downside, would be a descending broadening wedge [2017-04-07 05:00:09] MikeHunt : well for day trading you apply a mini pitchfork [2017-04-07 05:00:25] mark121 : k sec [2017-04-07 05:03:49] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/zvpdX6GD/ [2017-04-07 05:04:00] mark121 : that is on log scale [2017-04-07 05:04:38] mark121 : yet its failed to give u an accurate lower limit since august 16' [2017-04-07 05:05:13] mark121 : and has the bare minimum amount of touches to even be considered a valid channel [2017-04-07 05:06:01] MikeHunt : i use okc CNY for the bottom rail [2017-04-07 05:06:24] MikeHunt : no indicator is perfect and works 100% of the time [2017-04-07 05:06:32] MikeHunt : nor do i solely trade on pitchfork [2017-04-07 05:06:33] mark121 : this isn't an indicator [2017-04-07 05:06:41] mark121 : in that sense [2017-04-07 05:06:49] jeeburns : any idea why there are hidden orders? [2017-04-07 05:06:59] mark121 : meh MM can see them anyway [2017-04-07 05:07:04] mark121 : so they aren't truly hidden [2017-04-07 05:07:24] jeeburns : MM as in market maker or am i dumb? [2017-04-07 05:07:34] mark121 : correct [2017-04-07 05:07:40] mark121 : (to the first) :p [2017-04-07 05:08:02] lorestr : incorrect (to the 2nd) [2017-04-07 05:08:26] jeeburns : lol thanks [2017-04-07 05:08:37] lorestr : sell xbtusd 1182.1 for 1170...easy money [2017-04-07 05:09:05] mark121 : what im trying to say mikehunt is that a broadenin formation would suit ur overall idea a bit more accurately (as they tend to encompass an entire trend) [2017-04-07 05:10:27] mark121 : excuse the first 6 words [2017-04-07 05:10:30] mark121 : lmao [2017-04-07 05:10:53] MikeHunt : lol [2017-04-07 05:11:32] aethlios : ltc slowly recovery from twitter scammer [2017-04-07 05:11:40] MikeHunt : aethlios: was he hacked? [2017-04-07 05:11:53] aethlios : didn't comment. [2017-04-07 05:12:25] lorestr : easy ltc price manipulation isn't it [2017-04-07 05:14:01] mark121 : id agree that on larger timeframes we are in a symm triangle consolidation period that tends to come after the large bowl shape btc likes to do [2017-04-07 05:14:19] aethlios : they can't make money other way, only stealing others with manipulating. [2017-04-07 05:15:31] aethlios : you can go to jail for such comments if ltc was in a regulated exchange. [2017-04-07 05:16:33] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/8fXEHkZW/ [2017-04-07 05:16:34] mark121 : aethlios [2017-04-07 05:16:47] mark121 : that wud have to be ur neckline, at the very least [2017-04-07 05:16:56] aethlios : after future expiration some action possible, new week begins [2017-04-07 05:17:09] mark121 : those dips below it would be potential failures that recovered [2017-04-07 05:17:27] mark121 : not uncommon [2017-04-07 05:18:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 200 @ 0.03650 [2017-04-07 05:19:47] mark121 : MikeHunt: assuming u use other patterns this doesn't apply, but to those who use only a channel; they reallygive no indication of when the breakout wil occur [2017-04-07 05:19:58] Vintage : Funding is in Minus so SHORTS pay right? [2017-04-07 05:20:03] mark121 : yes [2017-04-07 05:20:34] MikeHunt : mark121: you mean like out of the channel? [2017-04-07 05:20:39] mark121 : yes [2017-04-07 05:20:46] MikeHunt : yeh im not gonna try n guess that [2017-04-07 05:20:53] MikeHunt : this is more for trading inside it [2017-04-07 05:21:23] MikeHunt : u may also like my doom chart b4 etf [2017-04-07 05:21:24] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1bFgl7Z.png [2017-04-07 05:21:39] mark121 : even on log it seems more like a wedge (narrowing tho) [2017-04-07 05:22:22] mark121 : and this gives u more touches [2017-04-07 05:22:27] Dnavid : mark121: hi, don't see ur widening wedge. What time scale? [2017-04-07 05:22:30] mark121 : and on smaller scales u can see this verified [2017-04-07 05:22:37] mark121 : in how btc tends to move [2017-04-07 05:22:57] mark121 : sometimes they ju scall em broadening formation the literature is inconsistent btw [2017-04-07 05:23:04] mark121 : u cant use log [2017-04-07 05:23:06] mark121 : but here [2017-04-07 05:23:11] mark121 : any longer one [2017-04-07 05:23:20] mark121 : encompass movement from july bottom [2017-04-07 05:24:40] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/fPgSdECs/ [2017-04-07 05:24:48] mark121 : jus fyi i don't use them [2017-04-07 05:24:55] mark121 : its jus for discussion [2017-04-07 05:25:20] mark121 : and the lack of the recent missed bottom touches wud be explained as "partial declines" [2017-04-07 05:25:35] mark121 : which tend to give a hint to breakout direction [2017-04-07 05:25:55] mark121 : partial rise being the opposite, they can hint at a bottom breakout [2017-04-07 05:26:58] mark121 : these type of patterns are essentially useless tho [2017-04-07 05:27:03] Dnavid : mark121: gotcha [2017-04-07 05:27:15] mark121 : u get a far more accurate picture looking closer [2017-04-07 05:27:46] mark121 : just as the etf has proven, on that large of timescales, somethin macro could cause a breakout or failure [2017-04-07 05:28:07] MikeHunt : mark121: http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png [2017-04-07 05:29:00] mark121 : u seem to actualy know enuf, but wtf is a china pump mean [2017-04-07 05:29:02] mark121 : lol [2017-04-07 05:29:07] mark121 : those aren't things [2017-04-07 05:29:17] MikeHunt : mark121: china pumped 1/2 of btc [2017-04-07 05:29:18] MikeHunt : basically [2017-04-07 05:29:33] mark121 : TA is price and volume [2017-04-07 05:29:41] mark121 : ignore anything else [2017-04-07 05:29:51] MikeHunt : sicne pboc turned pumps off [2017-04-07 05:29:59] MikeHunt : i did rough calc of where new support is [2017-04-07 05:29:59] CrazySteve : /sentiment [2017-04-07 05:30:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 13.68 / 86.32 Daily : 39.21 / 60.80 Weekly : 46.21 / 53.79 Monthly : 50.86 / 49.14``` [2017-04-07 05:30:07] mark121 : turned pumps off? [2017-04-07 05:30:11] mark121 : they turned off fake volume [2017-04-07 05:30:19] MikeHunt : mark121: no more margin trading + capital restrictions [2017-04-07 05:31:25] mark121 : all o fthose things (id argue most of it non consequential) are reflected within the chart naturally [2017-04-07 05:32:00] MikeHunt : must be very subtly considering those things started ~jan9th [2017-04-07 05:32:02] mark121 : especially because btc actualy went higher than it shud have based on pre pboc doctrine [2017-04-07 05:32:24] mark121 : it doesn't mean those aren't both support [2017-04-07 05:32:48] mark121 : one being more beefy as its older [2017-04-07 05:33:51] mark121 : and why iis support higher now that no pumps? shudnt everything be way down? [2017-04-07 05:34:07] mark121 : i think that's all nonsense [2017-04-07 05:34:48] MikeHunt : manipulation imo [2017-04-07 05:34:57] mark121 : sure, all of it though [2017-04-07 05:34:59] MikeHunt : price is also largely down to faith [2017-04-07 05:35:00] mark121 : is manipulation [2017-04-07 05:35:22] mark121 : so is everything else [2017-04-07 05:35:28] lorestr : who trades ripple? [2017-04-07 05:35:28] MikeHunt : either a black swan (HF) or competition from alts will bring btc down [2017-04-07 05:35:45] MikeHunt : especially if segwit doesnt pass [2017-04-07 05:35:47] MikeHunt : or BU [2017-04-07 05:36:04] mark121 : that doesn't explain why it hasn't plummeted without these supposed pumps [2017-04-07 05:36:31] MikeHunt : mark121: again its all faith [2017-04-07 05:36:42] mark121 : so is all money [2017-04-07 05:36:50] mark121 : and everything else that has perceived value [2017-04-07 05:36:52] frog : mark121: why do think it hasn't plummeted?? [2017-04-07 05:37:11] lorestr : /price [2017-04-07 05:37:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1185.41 (-0.23%) Bitfinex : 1188.00 (-0.25%) The Woodchipper : 1181.44 (-0.95%) itBit : 1185.92 (-0.32%) Kraken : 1186.00 (-0.52%) GDAX : 1187.29 (-0.48%) SLQ : 2 hours, 40 mins``` [2017-04-07 05:37:15] mark121 : treasury notes have value because of faith in the US treasury [2017-04-07 05:37:22] MikeHunt : mark121: indeed [2017-04-07 05:37:29] MikeHunt : mark121: $ is overvalued [2017-04-07 05:37:35] MikeHunt : like other fiat currencies [2017-04-07 05:38:15] mark121 : pt is ur chinapump thing is uncessary [2017-04-07 05:38:44] mark121 : they are just diff cycle supports, or partial decline that hint at an uppe rbreakout [2017-04-07 05:39:04] MikeHunt : point is to try and find new bottom ;) [2017-04-07 05:39:10] MikeHunt : if dump happen [2017-04-07 05:39:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/1fxpqc0Q/ [2017-04-07 05:40:01] mark121 : why wud u need to calculate that lol [2017-04-07 05:40:11] mark121 : i jus drew it :p [2017-04-07 05:40:48] lorestr : mark121: well done [2017-04-07 05:44:04] MikeHunt : lol [2017-04-07 05:44:09] MikeHunt : well sorta sad in a way [2017-04-07 05:44:16] MikeHunt : this could be the highest btc ever goes again [2017-04-07 05:49:34] BitMEX_Arthur : We have two new prediction futures contracts that are now live [2017-04-07 05:50:01] MikeHunt : B_BLOCKSZ17 ? [2017-04-07 05:50:02] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/B_SEGWITZ17 https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/B_BLOCKSZ17 [2017-04-07 05:56:42] mark121 : mikehunt: that wud be reflected in massive distribution [2017-04-07 05:57:02] KingTuna : I am hedging until there is direction [2017-04-07 05:57:07] KingTuna : Happy with profits to date [2017-04-07 05:58:35] Dnavid : mark121: Perhaps whales will keep pumping until all available fiat is holding then dump. The consumer "news" is still rosy and mooners are again bragging about their hodliness. [2017-04-07 05:58:58] Tetsuo : korn quarterlys dumpin hard [2017-04-07 05:59:04] Tetsuo : okkorn [2017-04-07 06:00:24] CrazySteve : sentiment [2017-04-07 06:00:40] CrazySteve : /sentiment [2017-04-07 06:00:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.68 / 44.32 Daily : 38.66 / 61.34 Weekly : 46.24 / 53.76 Monthly : 50.81 / 49.20``` [2017-04-07 06:05:08] Vintage : funding in minus shorts pay right? [2017-04-07 06:06:17] aethlios : june okcoin premium went to zero in th edump from +40 a few hours before. so much bullshitness [2017-04-07 06:06:42] aethlios : 2 hours for delivery [2017-04-07 06:07:20] mark121 : lorestr: ty sir [2017-04-07 06:07:28] Vintage : BitMEX_Arthur: when funding is minus who pays funding please? [2017-04-07 06:08:21] BitMEX_Arthur : Vintage: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide [2017-04-07 06:08:36] mark121 : KingTuna: lol wecome to the top of the fence :0 [2017-04-07 06:08:39] BitMEX_Arthur : Shorts pay longs when the rate is negative, please read that to completely understand [2017-04-07 06:10:01] mark121 : Dnavid: anything can happen but its premature, if fork happens its apparently in October so we got a ways to go [2017-04-07 06:10:21] Dnavid : mark121: October? Why? [2017-04-07 06:10:48] mark121 : that's when fork wud takeplace according to report i saw today [2017-04-07 06:12:34] Dnavid : mark121: oh,ok [2017-04-07 06:12:35] mark121 : alts are down and diving it seems [2017-04-07 06:12:46] mark121 : btc up ? [2017-04-07 06:12:50] Dnavid : noted the appointment in my calendar Oct 1st [2017-04-07 06:15:01] mark121 : heh :] [2017-04-07 06:15:20] Dnavid : mark121: https://coin.dance/blocks whenever any crosses 51% HF can happen and prolly will. [2017-04-07 06:15:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 3000 @ 0.00933 [2017-04-07 06:15:23] KingTuna : mark121: Top of the fence eh? [2017-04-07 06:15:32] mark121 : if u r hedged [2017-04-07 06:15:36] mark121 : bothways [2017-04-07 06:15:39] mark121 : as i was [2017-04-07 06:15:43] mark121 : or am [2017-04-07 06:15:55] mark121 : its a joke [2017-04-07 06:16:20] mark121 : dnavid: i don't think it will [2017-04-07 06:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 6 @ 0.00928 [2017-04-07 06:17:16] Dnavid : mark121: I meant, if it goes over 51%, fork will happen, not that fork will happen per se. [2017-04-07 06:17:27] mark121 : i kno that lol [2017-04-07 06:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00921 [2017-04-07 06:17:32] mark121 : u said probably will [2017-04-07 06:18:12] Dnavid : mark121: sorry, didn't mean that. [2017-04-07 06:18:24] mark121 : ah i underestand [2017-04-07 06:18:30] mark121 : myb [2017-04-07 06:19:40] mark121 : ju sbought some B_BLOCKSZ17 [2017-04-07 06:20:01] mark121 : cus im a gangsta [2017-04-07 06:20:34] mark121 : i have no idea what it is [2017-04-07 06:21:13] Dnavid : mark121: think best proxy for for probability is BCU, which is quite down. [2017-04-07 06:21:24] Dnavid : *for fork [2017-04-07 06:21:42] mark121 : i own the only unit of B_BLOCKSZ17 [2017-04-07 06:21:48] mark121 : available [2017-04-07 06:22:00] mark121 : it is now for sale [2017-04-07 06:22:45] men : good moment for short btc? [2017-04-07 06:23:04] men : seems good [2017-04-07 06:25:35] mark121 : short away homie [2017-04-07 06:26:15] KingTuna : mark121: You think sir [2017-04-07 06:26:23] mark121 : not rly [2017-04-07 06:26:26] KingTuna : Id like to see a little more down odd finex price [2017-04-07 06:26:33] KingTuna : off* [2017-04-07 06:26:44] mark121 : btc looks up [2017-04-07 06:26:46] hh : Buy Ripple Now [2017-04-07 06:27:15] KingTuna : Buy Dribble now [2017-04-07 06:27:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 1000 @ 0.00002782 [2017-04-07 06:27:57] hh : https://www.tradingview.com/x/BuWuuyhc/ [2017-04-07 06:28:03] lorestr : men: target 1165 [2017-04-07 06:28:17] lorestr : sell xbtusd [2017-04-07 06:29:25] mark121 : cud see a mini h&s form heh [2017-04-07 06:31:35] fallwater1024 : fuck [2017-04-07 06:31:50] fallwater1024 : nima [2017-04-07 06:33:41] mark121 : ltc cud seriously nose dive [2017-04-07 06:33:59] SilverKnight : Morning all [2017-04-07 06:34:02] SilverKnight : *yawn* [2017-04-07 06:34:40] SilverKnight : looking like we are in no mans land on bTC... [2017-04-07 06:34:47] SilverKnight : stuck between a long and a short [2017-04-07 06:34:56] SilverKnight : I wouldn't touch it until its more clear [2017-04-07 06:35:28] SilverKnight : wait for the obvious trade [2017-04-07 06:36:03] SilverKnight : your money will be there if you wait... if you dont... it wont... :D [2017-04-07 06:40:51] frog : just bought some btc [2017-04-07 06:41:42] mark121 : im long too [2017-04-07 06:42:13] frog : funding going up [2017-04-07 06:42:25] lorestr : frog: what level? [2017-04-07 06:42:34] lorestr : bought [2017-04-07 06:42:58] frog : and manged to buy using limit order [2017-04-07 06:43:02] frog : 1179 [2017-04-07 06:43:10] lorestr : ok [2017-04-07 06:43:28] lorestr : and liquidation or stop? [2017-04-07 06:43:50] frog : liq 1055 no stop [2017-04-07 06:43:57] mark121 : lol [2017-04-07 06:44:07] lorestr : so its ~1:30 right? [2017-04-07 06:44:16] frog : 1:10 [2017-04-07 06:44:20] lorestr : ok [2017-04-07 06:44:31] frog : isolated [2017-04-07 06:45:13] lorestr : I will buy 1067 [2017-04-07 06:45:26] frog : but i already had some so may affect liquidation overall, not really sure [2017-04-07 06:45:26] lorestr : mid point of your entry and liq [2017-04-07 06:45:30] mark121 : no reason to think its going there [2017-04-07 06:45:52] mark121 : in this moment [2017-04-07 06:46:04] frog : lorestr: you mean 1167? [2017-04-07 06:46:05] lorestr : mark121: the reason is we list momentum for up [2017-04-07 06:46:11] lorestr : yes [2017-04-07 06:46:15] lorestr : 1167 [2017-04-07 06:46:53] frog : mid point is around 1120 [2017-04-07 06:47:07] mark121 : even that may be unreachable [2017-04-07 06:47:44] frog : markhunt disagrees we are now at highest point [2017-04-07 06:47:46] mark121 : heh but much more likely than 1067 [2017-04-07 06:48:09] lorestr : the day is young [2017-04-07 06:49:46] mark121 : heh nah alts r going up, cud happn sooner than later :) [2017-04-07 06:50:41] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/6dVaeKpW/ [2017-04-07 06:51:10] mark121 : its possible that it got the moment for the up move by breaking this trendline [2017-04-07 06:51:11] frog : mark121: you're long and short though.. [2017-04-07 06:51:21] mark121 : imomentum* [2017-04-07 06:51:34] mark121 : and thus it wud now act as sup[port [2017-04-07 06:51:43] mark121 : nh i closed my short in 70's [2017-04-07 06:51:55] frog : thats sort of what I think [2017-04-07 06:52:05] frog : but different maths [2017-04-07 06:52:42] lorestr : http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/04/07/bitcoin-price-technical-analysis-04072017-supported-risk-off-flows/ [2017-04-07 06:53:53] mark121 : not sure bout his TA lol [2017-04-07 06:54:11] frog : he said down [2017-04-07 06:54:32] frog : but had a lot of padding [2017-04-07 06:54:35] lorestr : mark121: in any market we have no sure thing lol [2017-04-07 06:54:42] frog : no [2017-04-07 06:54:55] KyllingLolsson : My general philosopy is, whenever anything is very optimistic and euphoric, that's when to take a step back [2017-04-07 06:55:18] mark121 : and the opposite of that is currently the scernario [2017-04-07 06:55:34] frog : i like mark121 approach just trade the numbers and ignore the noise [2017-04-07 06:55:38] mark121 : every1 thinks btc is dying or dead [2017-04-07 06:55:47] mark121 : yep [2017-04-07 06:56:00] jose : mark121: i guess i am not every1 then [2017-04-07 06:56:11] mark121 : its not literal [2017-04-07 06:56:13] frog : definitely dead, has been confirmed here many times [2017-04-07 06:57:09] frog : every downtick confirms its death [2017-04-07 06:57:09] mark121 : lol:) [2017-04-07 06:57:25] brouk : btc has died many times already [2017-04-07 06:58:16] lorestr : when I have to pay 0.003BTC fee to bitmex for withdrawal I see btc dead too [2017-04-07 06:58:44] KyllingLolsson : Btc will never die [2017-04-07 06:59:02] brouk : lorestr: i think youre paying that fee to miners not bitmex [2017-04-07 06:59:16] lorestr : brouk: hell knows [2017-04-07 06:59:33] frog : hopefully not to the jihan cartel [2017-04-07 06:59:35] miccheck12 : bitmex doen't take fees for withdrawal. [2017-04-07 06:59:48] miccheck12 : *doesn't [2017-04-07 06:59:51] lorestr : miccheck12: they take nothing only our BTC [2017-04-07 06:59:58] miccheck12 : that's fake news [2017-04-07 07:02:56] CrazySteve : /sentiment [2017-04-07 07:02:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 29.71 / 70.29 Daily : 39.56 / 60.44 Weekly : 46.23 / 53.77 Monthly : 50.80 / 49.20``` [2017-04-07 07:10:43] lorestr : after 1h sentiment (hourly) will be the opposite [2017-04-07 07:10:55] lorestr : lets see :) [2017-04-07 07:21:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 31581 @ 1185.4 [2017-04-07 07:23:06] lorestr : someone lost 1btc [2017-04-07 07:23:18] lorestr : with 100x [2017-04-07 07:23:32] herpinator : ripperino [2017-04-07 07:23:51] panmex : anny admin here ? i need some help ? [2017-04-07 07:23:57] BitMEX_John : panmex: here :) [2017-04-07 07:25:33] panmex : BitMEX_John: my BTC withdraw is not jet processed from yesetrday ? is thaht normal ? [2017-04-07 07:26:20] aethlios : china -157 [2017-04-07 07:26:33] mark121 : there we go [2017-04-07 07:26:51] elmorte : BitMEX_John: hey John, how come the open value on the B_BLOCKSZ17 is less than the nominal size of 1 contract? [2017-04-07 07:27:24] BitMEX_John : panmex: did you confirm by clicking the link in the withdrawal confirmation email? [2017-04-07 07:27:55] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: The open value is just the value of the open interest at the current mark price [2017-04-07 07:28:08] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: cheers Wally [2017-04-07 07:29:13] panmex : BitMEX_John: yes i did. you can see here my withdrawl http://prntscr.com/eth31w [2017-04-07 07:29:15] BitMEX_Wally : panmex: Withdrawals are processed at 13:00 UTC, looks like your withdrawal request was confirmed at 13:07 UTC [2017-04-07 07:29:53] panmex : ohhh thats why [2017-04-07 07:29:56] panmex : thanks [2017-04-07 07:30:17] NODEX : is bitmex based in hk? [2017-04-07 07:31:22] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: Sam said you built an automatic deweighting mechanism into the new index. can you please open source it or publish more details on how it works? [2017-04-07 07:34:20] aethlios : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/850247652029513730 [2017-04-07 07:35:42] macro : Hi, I'm trying to create a pegged order via the API explorer - but I keep getting an "Unsupported ordType" error response. Are pegged orders still supported? Thanks [2017-04-07 07:35:49] lorestr : aethlios: that means btc down [2017-04-07 07:36:14] lorestr : to 800 [2017-04-07 07:36:17] aethlios : lorestr: and we have to leave okcoin futures maybe. [2017-04-07 07:37:56] zqooN : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz [2017-04-07 07:45:09] CrazySteve : /sentiment