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[2017-04-07 01:38:25] puppet : MikeHunt: nah, I think everyone will do what they can, and I can find no fault in that really
[2017-04-07 01:38:36] needmoneyquick : This Trollbox explains why Poloneix needs Mods haha... we all become Trolltrace
[2017-04-07 01:38:41] needmoneyquick : skankhunt52
[2017-04-07 01:38:48] herpinator : so is it time for ww3?
[2017-04-07 01:39:07] etoque : yes
[2017-04-07 01:39:09] puppet : I hope it's more of a cold war
[2017-04-07 01:39:10] etoque : its about to happen lol
[2017-04-07 01:39:31] etoque : today trump receive china pm... alliance game starting
[2017-04-07 01:39:49] MikeHunt : seems that finex is the only one that really has any buy side
[2017-04-07 01:39:52] needmoneyquick : herpinator: what are you referring too?
[2017-04-07 01:39:54] needmoneyquick : to
[2017-04-07 01:39:59] MikeHunt : once thats drained this could fall like a rock
[2017-04-07 01:40:12] Zen Trader : Drain the swamp
[2017-04-07 01:41:45] etoque : lol did bitcoin pump on syria news ?
[2017-04-07 01:41:47] Sultan Pepper : I need 2btc for a motrorcycle
[2017-04-07 01:43:04] Sultan Pepper : Xs650
[2017-04-07 01:43:13] needmoneyquick : scary stuff
[2017-04-07 01:44:06] puppet : I need 200mBTc for debt servicing
[2017-04-07 01:44:26] etoque : maybe buy bunker stock is a good idea now
[2017-04-07 01:45:15] herpinator : needmoneyquick: airstrike against syrian government
[2017-04-07 01:45:32] Rookie : my ancestors got to skip the first 2 world wars so they could grow food for the country
[2017-04-07 01:45:36] MikeHunt : trump think russia gonna sit idly buy?
[2017-04-07 01:45:43] MikeHunt : same with iran?
[2017-04-07 01:45:46] Rookie : if push comes to shove I hope I get to do the same
[2017-04-07 01:46:20] micmix : REKT will be down for a few minutes, don't get rekt while REKT is not watching ;-)
[2017-04-07 01:48:13] herpinator : everyone knows the truth about the syrian crisis right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FNtEWfay_8
[2017-04-07 01:50:45] MikeHunt : unfortunately the majority remain ignorant
[2017-04-07 01:51:26] micmix : REKT is up, you can go back to getting rekt now :smile:
[2017-04-07 01:52:18] puppet : micmix: have you ever been REKT at BitMEX?
[2017-04-07 01:52:56] MikeHunt : pretty sure every regular here has been
[2017-04-07 01:52:58] MikeHunt : baptism by fire
[2017-04-07 01:57:42] KingTuna : Struggling around 1200 mark, I am envisaging a bit of a correction
[2017-04-07 01:59:07] frog : mark121: do you place limit orders or buy/sell at market?
[2017-04-07 01:59:56] mark121 : lmit orders
[2017-04-07 02:00:03] mark121 : avoid fees as muc as possible
[2017-04-07 02:00:27] mark121 : i think its going up
[2017-04-07 02:00:52] mark121 : but still not as confident as id like to be
[2017-04-07 02:00:58] frog : ive been trying but have 2 orders today that have missed out by around .3
[2017-04-07 02:01:48] DangerandPlay : expect a world war 3 btc pump
[2017-04-07 02:02:06] mark121 : the US shot missles at syria
[2017-04-07 02:02:08] DangerandPlay : i'll spend all my coins on strippers and coke before the internet gets turned off
[2017-04-07 02:02:12] frog : it appears we are now back to some sort of equilibrium following asic thing
[2017-04-07 02:02:24] DangerandPlay : whores*
[2017-04-07 02:04:00] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/9q4Drxu5/
[2017-04-07 02:04:23] mark121 : btc patterns are pretty fkn ugly as of late
[2017-04-07 02:04:57] mark121 : and un normaly circumstances i wudnt be happy with that support , i like to go with the furthest wicks posible
[2017-04-07 02:05:09] mark121 : under*
[2017-04-07 02:05:21] MikeHunt : KingTuna: could be like jan31 to feb10 pump
[2017-04-07 02:06:05] mark121 : the US is gettin ready for war
[2017-04-07 02:06:18] mark121 : i mean to announce it
[2017-04-07 02:06:34] frog : id like to see some volume but once trend confirmed move probably already made
[2017-04-07 02:08:09] MikeHunt : we are making a handle for the giant teacup
[2017-04-07 02:08:19] MikeHunt : so perhaps it shouldnt go any further
[2017-04-07 02:09:41] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 02:09:48] mark121 : ok let me ge ton my desktop and check this out
[2017-04-07 02:10:57] Apocalyptic : ES dumped nicely
[2017-04-07 02:11:38] frog : all the exchanges at same price
[2017-04-07 02:12:15] mark121 : /price
[2017-04-07 02:12:17] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1191.96 (-0.22%) Bitfinex : 1197.60 (0.16%) The Woodchipper : 1194.90 (0.34%) itBit : 1192.60 (-0.12%) Kraken : 1194.01 (-0.09%) GDAX : 1194.10 (-0.15%) SLQ : 2 hours, 42 mins```
[2017-04-07 02:12:43] mark121 : im cautious in my long only cause alts are slowly moving up
[2017-04-07 02:12:44] micmix : puppet: got rekt on purpose couple of times
[2017-04-07 02:15:29] puppet : I guess that counts
[2017-04-07 02:15:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 60118 @ 1191.5 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-07 02:18:17] MikeHunt : there were some DDOS attacks on polio and btce earlier
[2017-04-07 02:18:25] MikeHunt : could be a test for final dump
[2017-04-07 02:19:30] mark121 : huh
[2017-04-07 02:20:04] MikeHunt : they did on the jan crash
[2017-04-07 02:20:11] MikeHunt : ddos-ed huobi
[2017-04-07 02:20:27] MikeHunt : before that they did some very short DDOS attacks
[2017-04-07 02:21:13] mark121 : sounds very weird, but why wud that favor a dump vs a rally?
[2017-04-07 02:21:31] mark121 : if they jus tryn to keep people off the exchange, wudnt that work both ways?
[2017-04-07 02:22:11] MikeHunt : mark121: perhaps they want a panic
[2017-04-07 02:22:32] MikeHunt : btc dumps
[2017-04-07 02:22:34] MikeHunt : alts dump
[2017-04-07 02:22:41] mark121 : id say one issue with that is the obviousness
[2017-04-07 02:22:53] mark121 : of this impending down
[2017-04-07 02:23:21] MikeHunt : mark121: down is only a pump away, on the whales know
[2017-04-07 02:23:31] mark121 : huh
[2017-04-07 02:23:31] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 02:23:32] michn1ght : panic buy from user :D
[2017-04-07 02:23:34] mark121 : same with up
[2017-04-07 02:23:57] michn1ght : the price is ready to gets more
[2017-04-07 02:24:00] mark121 : but if u think in terms of a manipulative whale, they wud want shit to look great
[2017-04-07 02:24:03] MikeHunt : i dont mean mega dump just a pull back
[2017-04-07 02:24:06] mark121 : until they pull the rug
[2017-04-07 02:24:13] mark121 : we just did one
[2017-04-07 02:24:18] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 02:24:35] MikeHunt : if they go fomo now we'd prob not get passed 1300
[2017-04-07 02:25:03] michn1ght : we need to break 1200 barrier :D and its going to happen
[2017-04-07 02:25:13] MikeHunt : finex already has
[2017-04-07 02:25:32] mark121 : lol MikeHunt based onwat?
[2017-04-07 02:25:37] michn1ght : finex already 1200? wow soon we can see in here
[2017-04-07 02:25:53] michn1ght : more cash we can make :D
[2017-04-07 02:26:03] mark121 : if u properly alternative buying and sellers, u can raise prices with relatively little cost
[2017-04-07 02:26:10] mark121 : alternate* and collude
[2017-04-07 02:26:27] MikeHunt : mark121: fomo is usually no longer than 40% of total pump height
[2017-04-07 02:26:55] mark121 : whaaat
[2017-04-07 02:27:03] mark121 : fomo isnt a thing
[2017-04-07 02:27:14] MikeHunt : what i mean is like wen it goes parabollic
[2017-04-07 02:27:14] mark121 : its a feeling
[2017-04-07 02:27:17] MikeHunt : near the top
[2017-04-07 02:27:28] MikeHunt : ie: walls dead, moon time
[2017-04-07 02:27:47] michn1ght : 1200 on the way guys :D
[2017-04-07 02:27:48] mark121 : its very likely that one of those inverse h & s are in play if this breaks
[2017-04-07 02:27:58] mark121 : cep tthis michn1ght scares me
[2017-04-07 02:28:12] mark121 : prob chinese pumper :p
[2017-04-07 02:28:21] michn1ght : mark121 :D
[2017-04-07 02:28:59] michn1ght : better not to late guys :D blink blink in my eye :D
[2017-04-07 02:29:04] mark121 : oh god
[2017-04-07 02:29:07] mark121 : its going down for sure
[2017-04-07 02:29:12] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 02:29:35] MikeHunt : what i can see on graph thou is btc seems to be loosing momentum as price goes up
[2017-04-07 02:29:51] mark121 : momentumcomes and goes
[2017-04-07 02:29:52] michn1ght : yup, polo break 1200 barrier hahahah lol :D greatttttt
[2017-04-07 02:30:52] michn1ght : soon here will break the barrier too :D
[2017-04-07 02:31:37] mark121 : thinking from the perspective of those in control.. u want to do the opposite of what the majority is thinking
[2017-04-07 02:32:23] michn1ght : still increase and break more barrier :D
[2017-04-07 02:32:24] michn1ght : love this
[2017-04-07 02:32:24] mark121 : it sure seems like they are setting up a short squeeze here - chart shows bullis patterns
[2017-04-07 02:32:44] MikeHunt : mark121: maybe thats what every is expecting thou
[2017-04-07 02:32:59] mark121 : they are expecting it to drop
[2017-04-07 02:33:00] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-07 02:33:05] mark121 : so the opposite isup
[2017-04-07 02:33:40] frog : mark121: i dont see the squeeze
[2017-04-07 02:33:43] mark121 : double reverse psychology is possible but difficult in application
[2017-04-07 02:33:46] Diplomata : /price
[2017-04-07 02:33:48] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1194.93 (0.25%) Bitfinex : 1198.30 (0.06%) The Woodchipper : 1197.99 (0.26%) itBit : 1194.28 (0.14%) Kraken : 1196.73 (0.23%) GDAX : 1198.99 (0.41%) SLQ : 21 mins```
[2017-04-07 02:33:52] mark121 : how can u see it?
[2017-04-07 02:34:07] MikeHunt : for all we know the biggest whale gets his kids to draw graphs
[2017-04-07 02:34:09] MikeHunt : puts it into bot
[2017-04-07 02:34:10] mark121 : until the rally kicks off, and inthat caseull see it in panic buys to cover
[2017-04-07 02:34:27] mark121 : MikeHunt: u seem to bbe blinded by negative outlook
[2017-04-07 02:34:32] frog : not a lot of selling and looks like short covering happened earlier
[2017-04-07 02:34:57] MikeHunt : mark121: well i am a dure negative cunt
[2017-04-07 02:34:59] mark121 : that dosnt mean anything
[2017-04-07 02:35:02] mark121 : frog
[2017-04-07 02:35:22] mark121 : most ppl shorting 1200 wont cover until 1210 1215
[2017-04-07 02:35:32] MikeHunt : what ppl r forgetting
[2017-04-07 02:35:37] MikeHunt : okc wkly in a few hours
[2017-04-07 02:35:46] frog : but here haven't been that many of them
[2017-04-07 02:35:46] MikeHunt : weekend soon = no fiat
[2017-04-07 02:35:59] mark121 : here doesnt matter
[2017-04-07 02:36:02] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 02:36:06] mark121 : in the grand scheme
[2017-04-07 02:36:28] mark121 : im cautious as im not sure what others think
[2017-04-07 02:36:33] mark121 : im going off a small sample size
[2017-04-07 02:36:41] mark121 : but with fork fud
[2017-04-07 02:36:49] mark121 : im inclined to assume outlook is fearful
[2017-04-07 02:38:47] frog : how much volume does jihan control?
[2017-04-07 02:40:34] frog : i closed half my long
[2017-04-07 02:41:15] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 02:41:55] MikeHunt : also if u look on 1hr
[2017-04-07 02:41:58] MikeHunt : zoomed out
[2017-04-07 02:42:00] MikeHunt : big W
[2017-04-07 02:42:17] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 02:42:26] MikeHunt : need to dribble right to draw it proiperly
[2017-04-07 02:42:41] mark121 : u only see stuff that confirms ur sentiment it seems lol
[2017-04-07 02:43:10] MikeHunt : i just think its too early to go parabollic
[2017-04-07 02:44:39] mark121 : im undecided atm but what does that mean to early
[2017-04-07 02:44:45] mark121 : btc was nearly 1400
[2017-04-07 02:44:50] mark121 : and we hit 875ish
[2017-04-07 02:45:02] frog : MikeHunt: have you taken a position yet?
[2017-04-07 02:45:13] MikeHunt : frog: short
[2017-04-07 02:45:24] frog : what was entry price?
[2017-04-07 02:45:28] mark121 : that makes sense
[2017-04-07 02:45:29] MikeHunt : ~1190
[2017-04-07 02:45:36] frog : GL
[2017-04-07 02:45:58] MikeHunt : i went easy on lvg so shouldnt be difficult to average if necessary
[2017-04-07 02:46:01] mark121 : dash is up so
[2017-04-07 02:46:04] MikeHunt : and swign out
[2017-04-07 02:46:06] mark121 : cud be a goo dmove
[2017-04-07 02:46:08] MikeHunt : swing*
[2017-04-07 02:46:21] mark121 : oh
[2017-04-07 02:47:41] KingTuna : I am short on low leverage and have started to take positions in XRP , alts vert small albeit
[2017-04-07 02:48:48] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/13DUsHbf/
[2017-04-07 02:49:07] mark121 : before last few weeks this wud be an easy all-in
[2017-04-07 02:49:30] mark121 : jus based on that probabky pennant
[2017-04-07 02:49:33] MikeHunt : mark121: whats with the triangle?
[2017-04-07 02:50:07] mark121 : thats nothing, ju happenes to look like one
[2017-04-07 02:50:15] MikeHunt : o right
[2017-04-07 02:50:36] MikeHunt : imo the only exchange that matters is the one being pumped
[2017-04-07 02:53:36] frog : getting some down volume now
[2017-04-07 02:54:31] aethlios : How much of the hashing power is signaling CSV support? NEW! About 2110 GH/s, or 73.6% of the network (368 out of the last 500 blocks). How much of the hashing power is signaling SegWit support? NEW! About 2047 GH/s, or 71.4% of the network (357 out of the last 500 blocks).
[2017-04-07 02:54:57] aethlios : next SW period is th eimportant, can't make it now.
[2017-04-07 02:56:51] binacoin : /price
[2017-04-07 02:56:53] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1188.15 (-0.57%) Bitfinex : 1191.00 (-0.61%) The Woodchipper : 1192.72 (-0.44%) itBit : 1189.73 (-0.38%) Kraken : 1192.23 (-0.38%) GDAX : 1193.00 (-0.50%) SLQ : 23 mins```
[2017-04-07 02:59:36] mark121 : im both long n short now
[2017-04-07 03:00:07] KingTuna : mark121: Alt positions?
[2017-04-07 03:00:27] mark121 : diff exchanges/accts
[2017-04-07 03:00:37] mark121 : btc
[2017-04-07 03:01:53] mark121 : xrp is scary
[2017-04-07 03:03:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCM17`: buy 9800 @ 7792.3
[2017-04-07 03:05:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 61122 @ 1188.7 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-07 03:05:29] mark121 : closed and long alts
[2017-04-07 03:06:08] mark121 : pro stil fake lol
[2017-04-07 03:07:18] mark121 : i wik reopen if i tmakes sense
[2017-04-07 03:08:20] mark121 : id prefer it to g odown still
[2017-04-07 03:13:10] MikeHunt : trump just bombed syria
[2017-04-07 03:14:31] mark121 : i said that alrdy
[2017-04-07 03:14:47] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 03:16:56] laisee : Hotel stocks in Syria down or up?
[2017-04-07 03:17:01] MikeHunt : i thought u said he was going to
[2017-04-07 03:17:05] MikeHunt : didnt think he'd actually do it
[2017-04-07 03:17:14] mark121 : nah he did
[2017-04-07 03:17:17] mark121 : but russia was warned
[2017-04-07 03:17:23] mark121 : so no ww3 yet
[2017-04-07 03:17:37] MikeHunt : wonder how iran will view this
[2017-04-07 03:17:44] MikeHunt : they have defense pact with syria
[2017-04-07 03:17:53] laisee : Good thing Putin answers his phone
[2017-04-07 03:18:08] MikeHunt : apparently US officials were talking with russians before hand
[2017-04-07 03:18:15] MikeHunt : i wouldnt be surprised if the base was empty
[2017-04-07 03:19:03] mark121 : ya vs israel
[2017-04-07 03:19:06] mark121 : not vs the US
[2017-04-07 03:19:16] laisee : 60m to send a message and help trump avoid the Russian scandal till next week, nice
[2017-04-07 03:19:21] KingTuna : BTC not yet convincingly down and out
[2017-04-07 03:19:57] mark121 : nope tis not
[2017-04-07 03:20:01] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 03:20:03] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.94 / 33.06 Daily : 38.85 / 61.15 Weekly : 46.29 / 53.71 Monthly : 51.00 / 49.00```
[2017-04-07 03:20:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 20000 @ 1187.2
[2017-04-07 03:33:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 1384 @ 0.00956
[2017-04-07 03:35:22] uej : Is cross leverage better?
[2017-04-07 03:39:27] daniellayton : I'm using bitcoinforcast.com with this website it seems to work on short term trades .
[2017-04-07 03:41:08] daniellayton : http://www.bitcoinforecast.com/poloniex
[2017-04-07 03:45:19] daniellayton : http://www.altcoinforecast.com/dash
[2017-04-07 03:53:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1180.2
[2017-04-07 03:53:35] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-04-07 03:53:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 1180.2
[2017-04-07 03:56:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7200 @ 1178.9
[2017-04-07 03:57:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 180 @ 1170.2
[2017-04-07 03:57:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 1178.1
[2017-04-07 03:57:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4000 @ 1178.1
[2017-04-07 03:58:03] mark121 : woot
[2017-04-07 03:58:18] mark121 : gues i made right choice for now..
[2017-04-07 03:58:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 19 @ 0.017076
[2017-04-07 03:58:37] mark121 : now that i said it, super rally lol
[2017-04-07 03:59:48] aethlios : ltc safe heaven fpr now.
[2017-04-07 04:07:55] mark121 : ltc is nice
[2017-04-07 04:08:03] mark121 : relink ur chart aethlios
[2017-04-07 04:08:29] aethlios : ltc is decent, fair, transparent (all from tha start) and has a dev also.
[2017-04-07 04:08:58] aethlios : no instamine dash scam marketing amanda bublle.
[2017-04-07 04:09:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 75 @ 0.03736
[2017-04-07 04:13:55] mark121 : p.s. that h & s is very likely not accurate
[2017-04-07 04:14:06] mark121 : il try to show y
[2017-04-07 04:17:39] mark121 : the etf non sense definitely convalutes the picture
[2017-04-07 04:25:05] aethlios : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/E4RBuOAb/ https://www.tradingview.com/x/8kgzDyZK/
[2017-04-07 04:28:35] +1 : aethlios: BTC will drop to the 500 mark?
[2017-04-07 04:28:37] mark121 : you need it to touch the neckline
[2017-04-07 04:28:53] mark121 : it cud be mor eaccurate tha ni thought
[2017-04-07 04:29:14] mark121 : however id ask u to do a more zoomed in version
[2017-04-07 04:29:47] aethlios : +1: chart more wants to point the H&S in the daily end of the bull market possible pattern.
[2017-04-07 04:30:01] mark121 : as u typically want to find little versions of the pattern within the pattern
[2017-04-07 04:30:12] mark121 : that wud work in your favor
[2017-04-07 04:30:32] aethlios : the neck fits the support line channel from 170 usd also!!!!! coincidence????????
[2017-04-07 04:31:45] mark121 : Microsoft edge fuckin sucks
[2017-04-07 04:32:26] +1 : aethlios: May-June?
[2017-04-07 04:32:40] mark121 : ur left shoulder
[2017-04-07 04:32:58] mark121 : cant just be in middle of nowhere
[2017-04-07 04:33:08] aethlios : +1: right shoulder is half yet, so this chart is very fantasy now.
[2017-04-07 04:33:39] mark121 : may june is when markets shud crash, quite improbable to see btc bottom
[2017-04-07 04:33:49] mark121 : at that point
[2017-04-07 04:33:55] mark121 : june actually
[2017-04-07 04:34:02] mark121 : i digress
[2017-04-07 04:34:18] mark121 : i shal draw a workable version of ur hypothesis
[2017-04-07 04:34:49] mark121 : heres a possibility for right now
[2017-04-07 04:34:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/S09FXPCG/
[2017-04-07 04:37:29] MikeHunt : imo we are in a triangle
[2017-04-07 04:37:54] mark121 : pretty much always in one on some level
[2017-04-07 04:38:00] mark121 : how do u mean\
[2017-04-07 04:38:01] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/XbSn4ZkH/ 3D chart
[2017-04-07 04:38:08] mark121 : the pennant ?
[2017-04-07 04:38:33] mark121 : aethlios: ur neckline has to have clear touches
[2017-04-07 04:38:48] mark121 : u cant just draw it to fit some support line from 180 or whatever
[2017-04-07 04:39:03] mark121 : just for the heck of it
[2017-04-07 04:39:18] MikeHunt : draw line across top of etf humps
[2017-04-07 04:39:44] MikeHunt : draw support rail from under lowest part of finex dump, under pboc pump dump and etf lowest
[2017-04-07 04:40:17] mark121 : draw it out and link it
[2017-04-07 04:40:30] mark121 : only thing i consider ETF related
[2017-04-07 04:40:34] MikeHunt : i dont wanna give too much away
[2017-04-07 04:40:40] MikeHunt : but basically if u draw a pitchfork
[2017-04-07 04:40:43] MikeHunt : u should see what i mean
[2017-04-07 04:40:43] mark121 : r u kidding
[2017-04-07 04:40:52] MikeHunt : alright fine
[2017-04-07 04:41:45] mark121 : :)
[2017-04-07 04:41:50] mark121 : makes for more interesting discussio
[2017-04-07 04:42:04] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 04:42:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.67 / 55.33 Daily : 39.88 / 60.12 Weekly : 46.27 / 53.73 Monthly : 50.89 / 49.11```
[2017-04-07 04:42:56] MikeHunt : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/QjxIsqVi/
[2017-04-07 04:43:55] MikeHunt : could breakout way sooner than that thou
[2017-04-07 04:44:09] MikeHunt : perhaps not even touch bottom again
[2017-04-07 04:45:20] mark121 : wheres the triangle
[2017-04-07 04:46:16] mark121 : pretend I'm retarded :p
[2017-04-07 04:46:43] mark121 : *insert* rapidtrades comment
[2017-04-07 04:47:20] MikeHunt : mark121: https://www.tradingview.com/x/gZXDOjfN/
[2017-04-07 04:51:10] mark121 : how can a pitchfork be used when its a broadening formation
[2017-04-07 04:51:26] mark121 : going back years
[2017-04-07 04:51:40] MikeHunt : use log scale?
[2017-04-07 04:53:43] mark121 : most wud say that log distorts in this case
[2017-04-07 04:53:55] mark121 : and in most
[2017-04-07 04:54:03] mark121 : while it has its benefits
[2017-04-07 04:54:21] MikeHunt : all i can say is pitchfork works
[2017-04-07 04:54:36] MikeHunt : looking back at charts before jan pump
[2017-04-07 04:54:39] mark121 : i kno ppl think that
[2017-04-07 04:54:44] mark121 : i tend to ask..
[2017-04-07 04:54:49] mark121 : what does it tell you?
[2017-04-07 04:55:09] MikeHunt : just gives u an idea of where btc will range
[2017-04-07 04:55:38] mark121 : yes upper and lower limit
[2017-04-07 04:55:43] mark121 : but
[2017-04-07 04:56:41] mark121 : let me try and visualize, its prob easier
[2017-04-07 04:57:43] mark121 : btc tends to move in wedges on larger timescales, for example all the movement on the downside since etf
[2017-04-07 04:57:52] mark121 : its 3 iterations of a fractal
[2017-04-07 04:57:57] mark121 : ever enlarging
[2017-04-07 04:58:03] mark121 : in a broadening wedge
[2017-04-07 04:58:41] MikeHunt : rising wedge?
[2017-04-07 04:58:44] mark121 : sure u can draw a nice channel in retrospect, i just don't see its application for a trading
[2017-04-07 04:59:21] mark121 : I'm not even sure it has enuf touches on the botto
[2017-04-07 04:59:43] mark121 : fore the downside, would be a descending broadening wedge
[2017-04-07 05:00:09] MikeHunt : well for day trading you apply a mini pitchfork
[2017-04-07 05:00:25] mark121 : k sec
[2017-04-07 05:03:49] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/zvpdX6GD/
[2017-04-07 05:04:00] mark121 : that is on log scale
[2017-04-07 05:04:38] mark121 : yet its failed to give u an accurate lower limit since august 16'
[2017-04-07 05:05:13] mark121 : and has the bare minimum amount of touches to even be considered a valid channel
[2017-04-07 05:06:01] MikeHunt : i use okc CNY for the bottom rail
[2017-04-07 05:06:24] MikeHunt : no indicator is perfect and works 100% of the time
[2017-04-07 05:06:32] MikeHunt : nor do i solely trade on pitchfork
[2017-04-07 05:06:33] mark121 : this isn't an indicator
[2017-04-07 05:06:41] mark121 : in that sense
[2017-04-07 05:06:49] jeeburns : any idea why there are hidden orders?
[2017-04-07 05:06:59] mark121 : meh MM can see them anyway
[2017-04-07 05:07:04] mark121 : so they aren't truly hidden
[2017-04-07 05:07:24] jeeburns : MM as in market maker or am i dumb?
[2017-04-07 05:07:34] mark121 : correct
[2017-04-07 05:07:40] mark121 : (to the first) :p
[2017-04-07 05:08:02] lorestr : incorrect (to the 2nd)
[2017-04-07 05:08:26] jeeburns : lol thanks
[2017-04-07 05:08:37] lorestr : sell xbtusd 1182.1 for 1170...easy money
[2017-04-07 05:09:05] mark121 : what im trying to say mikehunt is that a broadenin formation would suit ur overall idea a bit more accurately (as they tend to encompass an entire trend)
[2017-04-07 05:10:27] mark121 : excuse the first 6 words
[2017-04-07 05:10:30] mark121 : lmao
[2017-04-07 05:10:53] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-07 05:11:32] aethlios : ltc slowly recovery from twitter scammer
[2017-04-07 05:11:40] MikeHunt : aethlios: was he hacked?
[2017-04-07 05:11:53] aethlios : didn't comment.
[2017-04-07 05:12:25] lorestr : easy ltc price manipulation isn't it
[2017-04-07 05:14:01] mark121 : id agree that on larger timeframes we are in a symm triangle consolidation period that tends to come after the large bowl shape btc likes to do
[2017-04-07 05:14:19] aethlios : they can't make money other way, only stealing others with manipulating.
[2017-04-07 05:15:31] aethlios : you can go to jail for such comments if ltc was in a regulated exchange.
[2017-04-07 05:16:33] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/8fXEHkZW/
[2017-04-07 05:16:34] mark121 : aethlios
[2017-04-07 05:16:47] mark121 : that wud have to be ur neckline, at the very least
[2017-04-07 05:16:56] aethlios : after future expiration some action possible, new week begins
[2017-04-07 05:17:09] mark121 : those dips below it would be potential failures that recovered
[2017-04-07 05:17:27] mark121 : not uncommon
[2017-04-07 05:18:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 200 @ 0.03650
[2017-04-07 05:19:47] mark121 : MikeHunt: assuming u use other patterns this doesn't apply, but to those who use only a channel; they reallygive no indication of when the breakout wil occur
[2017-04-07 05:19:58] Vintage : Funding is in Minus so SHORTS pay right?
[2017-04-07 05:20:03] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-07 05:20:34] MikeHunt : mark121: you mean like out of the channel?
[2017-04-07 05:20:39] mark121 : yes
[2017-04-07 05:20:46] MikeHunt : yeh im not gonna try n guess that
[2017-04-07 05:20:53] MikeHunt : this is more for trading inside it
[2017-04-07 05:21:23] MikeHunt : u may also like my doom chart b4 etf
[2017-04-07 05:21:24] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1bFgl7Z.png
[2017-04-07 05:21:39] mark121 : even on log it seems more like a wedge (narrowing tho)
[2017-04-07 05:22:22] mark121 : and this gives u more touches
[2017-04-07 05:22:27] Dnavid : mark121: hi, don't see ur widening wedge. What time scale?
[2017-04-07 05:22:30] mark121 : and on smaller scales u can see this verified
[2017-04-07 05:22:37] mark121 : in how btc tends to move
[2017-04-07 05:22:57] mark121 : sometimes they ju scall em broadening formation the literature is inconsistent btw
[2017-04-07 05:23:04] mark121 : u cant use log
[2017-04-07 05:23:06] mark121 : but here
[2017-04-07 05:23:11] mark121 : any longer one
[2017-04-07 05:23:20] mark121 : encompass movement from july bottom
[2017-04-07 05:24:40] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/fPgSdECs/
[2017-04-07 05:24:48] mark121 : jus fyi i don't use them
[2017-04-07 05:24:55] mark121 : its jus for discussion
[2017-04-07 05:25:20] mark121 : and the lack of the recent missed bottom touches wud be explained as "partial declines"
[2017-04-07 05:25:35] mark121 : which tend to give a hint to breakout direction
[2017-04-07 05:25:55] mark121 : partial rise being the opposite, they can hint at a bottom breakout
[2017-04-07 05:26:58] mark121 : these type of patterns are essentially useless tho
[2017-04-07 05:27:03] Dnavid : mark121: gotcha
[2017-04-07 05:27:15] mark121 : u get a far more accurate picture looking closer
[2017-04-07 05:27:46] mark121 : just as the etf has proven, on that large of timescales, somethin macro could cause a breakout or failure
[2017-04-07 05:28:07] MikeHunt : mark121: http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-04-07 05:29:00] mark121 : u seem to actualy know enuf, but wtf is a china pump mean
[2017-04-07 05:29:02] mark121 : lol
[2017-04-07 05:29:07] mark121 : those aren't things
[2017-04-07 05:29:17] MikeHunt : mark121: china pumped 1/2 of btc
[2017-04-07 05:29:18] MikeHunt : basically
[2017-04-07 05:29:33] mark121 : TA is price and volume
[2017-04-07 05:29:41] mark121 : ignore anything else
[2017-04-07 05:29:51] MikeHunt : sicne pboc turned pumps off
[2017-04-07 05:29:59] MikeHunt : i did rough calc of where new support is
[2017-04-07 05:29:59] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 05:30:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 13.68 / 86.32 Daily : 39.21 / 60.80 Weekly : 46.21 / 53.79 Monthly : 50.86 / 49.14```
[2017-04-07 05:30:07] mark121 : turned pumps off?
[2017-04-07 05:30:11] mark121 : they turned off fake volume
[2017-04-07 05:30:19] MikeHunt : mark121: no more margin trading + capital restrictions
[2017-04-07 05:31:25] mark121 : all o fthose things (id argue most of it non consequential) are reflected within the chart naturally
[2017-04-07 05:32:00] MikeHunt : must be very subtly considering those things started ~jan9th
[2017-04-07 05:32:02] mark121 : especially because btc actualy went higher than it shud have based on pre pboc doctrine
[2017-04-07 05:32:24] mark121 : it doesn't mean those aren't both support
[2017-04-07 05:32:48] mark121 : one being more beefy as its older
[2017-04-07 05:33:51] mark121 : and why iis support higher now that no pumps? shudnt everything be way down?
[2017-04-07 05:34:07] mark121 : i think that's all nonsense
[2017-04-07 05:34:48] MikeHunt : manipulation imo
[2017-04-07 05:34:57] mark121 : sure, all of it though
[2017-04-07 05:34:59] MikeHunt : price is also largely down to faith
[2017-04-07 05:35:00] mark121 : is manipulation
[2017-04-07 05:35:22] mark121 : so is everything else
[2017-04-07 05:35:28] lorestr : who trades ripple?
[2017-04-07 05:35:28] MikeHunt : either a black swan (HF) or competition from alts will bring btc down
[2017-04-07 05:35:45] MikeHunt : especially if segwit doesnt pass
[2017-04-07 05:35:47] MikeHunt : or BU
[2017-04-07 05:36:04] mark121 : that doesn't explain why it hasn't plummeted without these supposed pumps
[2017-04-07 05:36:31] MikeHunt : mark121: again its all faith
[2017-04-07 05:36:42] mark121 : so is all money
[2017-04-07 05:36:50] mark121 : and everything else that has perceived value
[2017-04-07 05:36:52] frog : mark121: why do think it hasn't plummeted??
[2017-04-07 05:37:11] lorestr : /price
[2017-04-07 05:37:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1185.41 (-0.23%) Bitfinex : 1188.00 (-0.25%) The Woodchipper : 1181.44 (-0.95%) itBit : 1185.92 (-0.32%) Kraken : 1186.00 (-0.52%) GDAX : 1187.29 (-0.48%) SLQ : 2 hours, 40 mins```
[2017-04-07 05:37:15] mark121 : treasury notes have value because of faith in the US treasury
[2017-04-07 05:37:22] MikeHunt : mark121: indeed
[2017-04-07 05:37:29] MikeHunt : mark121: $ is overvalued
[2017-04-07 05:37:35] MikeHunt : like other fiat currencies
[2017-04-07 05:38:15] mark121 : pt is ur chinapump thing is uncessary
[2017-04-07 05:38:44] mark121 : they are just diff cycle supports, or partial decline that hint at an uppe rbreakout
[2017-04-07 05:39:04] MikeHunt : point is to try and find new bottom ;)
[2017-04-07 05:39:10] MikeHunt : if dump happen
[2017-04-07 05:39:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/1fxpqc0Q/
[2017-04-07 05:40:01] mark121 : why wud u need to calculate that lol
[2017-04-07 05:40:11] mark121 : i jus drew it :p
[2017-04-07 05:40:48] lorestr : mark121: well done
[2017-04-07 05:44:04] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-07 05:44:09] MikeHunt : well sorta sad in a way
[2017-04-07 05:44:16] MikeHunt : this could be the highest btc ever goes again
[2017-04-07 05:49:34] BitMEX_Arthur : We have two new prediction futures contracts that are now live
[2017-04-07 05:50:01] MikeHunt : B_BLOCKSZ17 ?
[2017-04-07 05:50:02] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/B_SEGWITZ17 https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 05:56:42] mark121 : mikehunt: that wud be reflected in massive distribution
[2017-04-07 05:57:02] KingTuna : I am hedging until there is direction
[2017-04-07 05:57:07] KingTuna : Happy with profits to date
[2017-04-07 05:58:35] Dnavid : mark121: Perhaps whales will keep pumping until all available fiat is holding then dump. The consumer "news" is still rosy and mooners are again bragging about their hodliness.
[2017-04-07 05:58:58] Tetsuo : korn quarterlys dumpin hard
[2017-04-07 05:59:04] Tetsuo : okkorn
[2017-04-07 06:00:24] CrazySteve : sentiment
[2017-04-07 06:00:40] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-07 06:00:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.68 / 44.32 Daily : 38.66 / 61.34 Weekly : 46.24 / 53.76 Monthly : 50.81 / 49.20```
[2017-04-07 06:05:08] Vintage : funding in minus shorts pay right?
[2017-04-07 06:06:17] aethlios : june okcoin premium went to zero in th edump from +40 a few hours before. so much bullshitness
[2017-04-07 06:06:42] aethlios : 2 hours for delivery
[2017-04-07 06:07:20] mark121 : lorestr: ty sir
[2017-04-07 06:07:28] Vintage : BitMEX_Arthur: when funding is minus who pays funding please?
[2017-04-07 06:08:21] BitMEX_Arthur : Vintage: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2017-04-07 06:08:36] mark121 : KingTuna: lol wecome to the top of the fence :0
[2017-04-07 06:08:39] BitMEX_Arthur : Shorts pay longs when the rate is negative, please read that to completely understand
[2017-04-07 06:10:01] mark121 : Dnavid: anything can happen but its premature, if fork happens its apparently in October so we got a ways to go
[2017-04-07 06:10:21] Dnavid : mark121: October? Why?
[2017-04-07 06:10:48] mark121 : that's when fork wud takeplace according to report i saw today
[2017-04-07 06:12:34] Dnavid : mark121: oh,ok
[2017-04-07 06:12:35] mark121 : alts are down and diving it seems
[2017-04-07 06:12:46] mark121 : btc up ?
[2017-04-07 06:12:50] Dnavid : noted the appointment in my calendar Oct 1st
[2017-04-07 06:15:01] mark121 : heh :]
[2017-04-07 06:15:20] Dnavid : mark121: https://coin.dance/blocks whenever any crosses 51% HF can happen and prolly will.
[2017-04-07 06:15:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 3000 @ 0.00933
[2017-04-07 06:15:23] KingTuna : mark121: Top of the fence eh?
[2017-04-07 06:15:32] mark121 : if u r hedged
[2017-04-07 06:15:36] mark121 : bothways
[2017-04-07 06:15:39] mark121 : as i was
[2017-04-07 06:15:43] mark121 : or am
[2017-04-07 06:15:55] mark121 : its a joke
[2017-04-07 06:16:20] mark121 : dnavid: i don't think it will
[2017-04-07 06:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 6 @ 0.00928
[2017-04-07 06:17:16] Dnavid : mark121: I meant, if it goes over 51%, fork will happen, not that fork will happen per se.
[2017-04-07 06:17:27] mark121 : i kno that lol
[2017-04-07 06:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.00921
[2017-04-07 06:17:32] mark121 : u said probably will
[2017-04-07 06:18:12] Dnavid : mark121: sorry, didn't mean that.
[2017-04-07 06:18:24] mark121 : ah i underestand
[2017-04-07 06:18:30] mark121 : myb
[2017-04-07 06:19:40] mark121 : ju sbought some B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 06:20:01] mark121 : cus im a gangsta
[2017-04-07 06:20:34] mark121 : i have no idea what it is
[2017-04-07 06:21:13] Dnavid : mark121: think best proxy for for probability is BCU, which is quite down.
[2017-04-07 06:21:24] Dnavid : *for fork
[2017-04-07 06:21:42] mark121 : i own the only unit of B_BLOCKSZ17
[2017-04-07 06:21:48] mark121 : available
[2017-04-07 06:22:00] mark121 : it is now for sale
[2017-04-07 06:22:45] men : good moment for short btc?
[2017-04-07 06:23:04] men : seems good
[2017-04-07 06:25:35] mark121 : short away homie
[2017-04-07 06:26:15] KingTuna : mark121: You think sir
[2017-04-07 06:26:23] mark121 : not rly
[2017-04-07 06:26:26] KingTuna : Id like to see a little more down odd finex price
[2017-04-07 06:26:33] KingTuna : off*
[2017-04-07 06:26:44] mark121 : btc looks up
[2017-04-07 06:26:46] hh : Buy Ripple Now
[2017-04-07 06:27:15] KingTuna : Buy Dribble now
[2017-04-07 06:27:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 1000 @ 0.00002782