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[2017-04-05 12:06:39] binacoin : BitMEX_John: Why does my leverage n an open position decrease/increase at will?
[2017-04-05 12:07:35] BitMEX_John : binacoin: the unrealised profit is included as margin for the position so your effective leverage will fluctuate
[2017-04-05 12:09:30] binacoin : BitMEX_John: ah...thanks!
[2017-04-05 12:10:56] binacoin : BitMEX_John: that means, if my urealised profit is positive, leverage will start decrease, vice versa?
[2017-04-05 12:13:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRJ17`: sell 200 @ 0.017977
[2017-04-05 12:13:31] BitMEX_John : binacoin: yes, if you have unrealised profit your effective leverage will reduce and if you have unrealised loss your effective leverage will increase, that's correct
[2017-04-05 12:17:35] binacoin : BitMEX_John: can it reduce to 0 during a fast pace uptrend?
[2017-04-05 12:18:45] binacoin : BitMEX_John: maybe I should rephrase my question. How high/low can it go?
[2017-04-05 12:19:00] lorestr : binacoin: no, 0 only after rekt
[2017-04-05 12:20:59] BitMEX_John : binacoin: do you understand how margin works?
[2017-04-05 12:21:29] binacoin : BitMEX_John: not completely
[2017-04-05 12:21:48] binacoin : i tried reading your reference material, some of the terms are overwheming
[2017-04-05 12:24:01] BitMEX_John : binacoin: I understand, which contract are you trading? I will try to help you understand how margin works
[2017-04-05 12:24:18] lorestr : BitMEX_John: when API activated for withdrawal, I get no email for its confirmation or how it works?
[2017-04-05 12:24:18] GoldyBoySachs : BitMEX_John: Hey there mate, I'm going to assume you're a bitmex employee - what are your thoughts on the gfc of 2011?
[2017-04-05 12:24:34] GoldyBoySachs : Really important for my trading plan
[2017-04-05 12:24:46] binacoin : BitMEX_John: perpertual swap
[2017-04-05 12:24:52] BitMEX_John : lorestr: you have tried to make a withdrawal via API?
[2017-04-05 12:25:02] lorestr : not yet
[2017-04-05 12:25:24] lorestr : just want to understand mechanics
[2017-04-05 12:25:25] BitMEX_John : GoldyBoySachs: haha, I can't help you with your trading plan :)
[2017-04-05 12:26:27] BitMEX_John : binacoin: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD in the contract specification there are details on the initial margin and maintenance margin requirements
[2017-04-05 12:27:58] lorestr : BitMEX_John: "[‎15‎:‎24] BitMEX_John: lorestr: you have tried to make a withdrawal via API? " /// not yet just want to understand mechanics
[2017-04-05 12:28:04] binacoin : /price
[2017-04-05 12:28:05] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1130.10 (0.14%) Bitfinex : 1127.50 (0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1120.00 (-0.04%) itBit : 1129.79 (0.14%) Kraken : 1126.58 (-0.05%) GDAX : 1134.72 (0.05%) SLQ : 27 mins```
[2017-04-05 12:28:14] BitMEX_John : lorestr: I'm not sure whether you still receive the withdrawal email, I will check with another memeber of the team one moment
[2017-04-05 12:28:26] lorestr : BitMEX_John: txs
[2017-04-05 12:31:32] Dynamix : BTC can't break 1130 yet eh ? :D
[2017-04-05 12:32:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 172 @ 0.040910
[2017-04-05 12:33:28] lorestr : Dynamix: get ready for 1195
[2017-04-05 12:33:50] Dynamix : Lol haha ;)
[2017-04-05 12:34:13] lorestr : Dynamix: lets bet :D
[2017-04-05 12:34:22] Dynamix : Sure
[2017-04-05 12:34:24] lorestr : what u have?
[2017-04-05 12:34:28] Dynamix : 1btc it will see 1050 before 1200 :)
[2017-04-05 12:34:40] lorestr : 1btc? 150btc?
[2017-04-05 12:34:50] lorestr : I bet 15btc
[2017-04-05 12:36:23] Dynamix : I dont have 15 btc haha
[2017-04-05 12:37:34] Dynamix : I wish i did hehe :P I bet 1 btc and u bet 15 :))
[2017-04-05 12:37:59] BitMEX_John : lorestr: withdrawals made with the API are not confirmed via email
[2017-04-05 12:38:19] BitMEX_John : lorestr: thanks for your patience
[2017-04-05 12:39:12] lorestr : BitMEX_John: but they are processes same way as not API ones, right?
[2017-04-05 12:40:00] BitMEX_John : lorestr: please read the reference material here and let me know if you have any further questions https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiKeysUsage
[2017-04-05 12:41:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 17209 @ 1127.50
[2017-04-05 12:41:45] lorestr : REKT: good start
[2017-04-05 12:42:22] SilverKnight : quite the drop off in volume on the slow btc rise we got going on
[2017-04-05 12:42:31] SilverKnight : im thinking short soon...
[2017-04-05 12:43:10] lorestr : SilverKnight: with short u will be short of btc
[2017-04-05 12:43:51] SilverKnight : the real question is, when short, how short is short?
[2017-04-05 12:45:15] lorestr : SilverKnight: MEGA REKT
[2017-04-05 12:46:13] SilverKnight : mega short?????
[2017-04-05 12:46:16] SilverKnight : *gasp*
[2017-04-05 12:53:42] GoldyBoySachs : Please John answer my question
[2017-04-05 12:53:46] GoldyBoySachs : Please please please
[2017-04-05 13:08:16] Oludaray : lorestr:
[2017-04-05 13:11:14] binacoin : /sentimenr
[2017-04-05 13:11:20] binacoin : /sentiment
[2017-04-05 13:11:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.67 / 55.33 Daily : 57.98 / 42.02 Weekly : 48.55 / 51.45 Monthly : 51.66 / 48.34```
[2017-04-05 13:13:58] binacoin : /price
[2017-04-05 13:13:59] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1126.80 (-0.29%) Bitfinex : 1124.90 (-0.23%) The Woodchipper : 1123.00 (0.27%) itBit : 1128.23 (-0.14%) Kraken : 1126.49 (-0.01%) GDAX : 1131.98 (-0.24%) SLQ : 45 mins```
[2017-04-05 13:15:52] joy2015 : /sentiment
[2017-04-05 13:15:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 46.31 / 53.69 Daily : 58.04 / 41.96 Weekly : 48.55 / 51.45 Monthly : 51.66 / 48.34```
[2017-04-05 13:27:02] frog : SilverKnight: seems to be going up on low volume and down with heavy volume
[2017-04-05 13:31:26] bnz : frog: where?
[2017-04-05 13:34:14] frog : bnz: finex
[2017-04-05 13:35:33] bnz : http://imgur.com/a/Md6dE
[2017-04-05 13:35:38] aethlios : ltc ready for break out...........
[2017-04-05 13:35:47] bnz : every red is followed by more green
[2017-04-05 13:36:10] frog : bnz: lol
[2017-04-05 13:36:43] bnz : :) maybe you don't talk about such quick timeframes
[2017-04-05 13:38:33] binacoin : aethlios: upward or download
[2017-04-05 13:38:43] aethlios : up up up.
[2017-04-05 13:39:36] aethlios : don't trade based on what people comment on the chat.
[2017-04-05 13:39:47] frog : there's some resistance just below 1030 on finex
[2017-04-05 13:39:59] 123abc : ltc/btc new high on btce
[2017-04-05 13:40:08] aethlios : How much of the hashing power is signaling CSV support? NEW! About 2101 GH/s, or 72.2% of the network (361 out of the last 500 blocks). How much of the hashing power is signaling SegWit support? NEW! About 2043 GH/s, or 70.2% of the network (351 out of the last 500 blocks).
[2017-04-05 13:40:53] sleger : 9.2$, very close to someone's stop at 10....
[2017-04-05 13:40:59] 123abc : aethlios: needs to keep it up for 2 weeks above 75%
[2017-04-05 13:41:13] KingTuna : LTC looking money
[2017-04-05 13:41:37] aethlios : https://twitter.com/www_bw_com/status/849576920115064832 BW pool must be signaling SW next few hours-days, they have 6%.
[2017-04-05 13:42:07] 123abc : just needs BW.com to signal
[2017-04-05 13:43:59] frog : @aethlios so fork will be soon?
[2017-04-05 13:44:06] 123abc : they have 8% right now
[2017-04-05 13:44:26] aethlios : frog: fork for ltc?? no fork for ltc.
[2017-04-05 13:44:40] frog : segwit?
[2017-04-05 13:45:23] aethlios : it is a soft fork, those who won't update can keep using ltc with not using SW
[2017-04-05 13:45:48] aethlios : won't be two ltc
[2017-04-05 13:47:19] frog : yes
[2017-04-05 13:49:43] frog : so should be priced in already as everyone knows will be happening?
[2017-04-05 13:51:51] laisee : aethlios: from where do you retrieve stats on SW signalling by miners?
[2017-04-05 13:52:04] 123abc : frog: currently being priced in. LTC/USD on btce hitting new high
[2017-04-05 13:52:31] aethlios : laisee: https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools
[2017-04-05 13:52:55] 123abc : a lot of BTC going into LTC
[2017-04-05 13:53:05] laisee : y?
[2017-04-05 13:54:10] laisee : dnt see what exactly SW adds to LTC - given its low volumes, faster block times and excess capacity?
[2017-04-05 13:54:16] frog : looks like could shoot up Mr Lee said he expects $14
[2017-04-05 13:56:15] hmmmYea : frog: this will be an amazing short immediately after sw activates
[2017-04-05 13:56:44] 123abc : laisee: when BTC gets segwit then LTC and BTC will work together seamlessly
[2017-04-05 13:56:56] 123abc : together they will achieve great things
[2017-04-05 13:57:12] startChat : with segwit on BTC why do you need LTC?
[2017-04-05 13:57:15] frog : hmmmYea: you think segwit is overhyped?
[2017-04-05 13:57:15] laisee : 123abc: they are different chains, no?
[2017-04-05 13:57:42] startChat : laisee: but with malleablity fix atomic swaps between chains can be instant
[2017-04-05 13:57:54] 123abc : laisee: https://segwit.org/my-vision-for-segwit-and-lightning-networks-on-litecoin-and-bitcoin-cf95a7ab656b
[2017-04-05 13:57:55] JerryBuss : /price
[2017-04-05 13:57:56] 123abc : read that
[2017-04-05 13:57:57] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1126.49 (-0.03%) Bitfinex : 1126.70 (0.16%) The Woodchipper : 1124.06 (0.09%) itBit : 1126.93 (-0.12%) Kraken : 1125.51 (-0.09%) GDAX : 1127.95 (-0.36%) SLQ : 43 mins```
[2017-04-05 13:58:30] laisee : startChat: Atomic swaps have been promised for years, still no-one mentioned malleabiity as issue until SW got stuck ...
[2017-04-05 13:58:39] hmmmYea : frog: i just think all the people who have bought ltc bc they think they have some great insight that sw is coming will want to sell when it becomes official
[2017-04-05 13:58:43] 123abc : Charlie Lee Tips Litecoin Price To Reach $14 On SegWit Activation
[2017-04-05 13:59:09] laisee : 123abc: LOL. there are suckers born every 10 mins ....
[2017-04-05 13:59:40] laisee : SW adds nothing of value to LTC, since no-one uses LTC anyway.
[2017-04-05 13:59:54] hmmmYea : frog: and everyone who follows ltc and cares about litecoin already knows its coming... and has already bought if they wanted to... so there wont be enough new buys to buy the coins from all the fast money
[2017-04-05 14:00:10] Nutella : its already doiubled and more
[2017-04-05 14:00:11] hmmmYea : follows ltc and cares about SEGWIT*
[2017-04-05 14:00:13] Nutella : don't be greedy
[2017-04-05 14:00:16] laisee : PnD, in other words
[2017-04-05 14:00:36] frog : segwit is getting ltc and mr Lee good publicity
[2017-04-05 14:00:53] Nutella : in article Lee says : I say $14 cos at $8 segwit was at 60%
[2017-04-05 14:01:01] laisee : hahaha ... he is a good marketer, then
[2017-04-05 14:01:02] Nutella : really stupid math
[2017-04-05 14:01:12] hmmmYea : laisee: pump and dump implies a conspiracy... i just think it is how markets work under certain conditions
[2017-04-05 14:01:17] Ahhere : Segwit FTW. Guise its going up dont miss the easiest trade of the year
[2017-04-05 14:01:27] Ahhere : already made 4k ltc on this trade
[2017-04-05 14:01:33] laisee : Going UP and then DOWN ...
[2017-04-05 14:01:42] Ahhere : nah
[2017-04-05 14:01:48] Ahhere : litecoin was the last alt to pump
[2017-04-05 14:01:50] frog : Nutella: yes the magic formula for predicting future price, nobel prize coming for Mr Lee
[2017-04-05 14:01:54] Ahhere : the last main one
[2017-04-05 14:02:08] Ahhere : eth still in 40s dash still above 50 (not that I follow it)
[2017-04-05 14:02:18] Ahhere : ltc will beat $20 at very leas
[2017-04-05 14:02:21] Ahhere : t
[2017-04-05 14:02:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 350000 @ 0.00003309
[2017-04-05 14:02:58] Ahhere : I could close today for 4k litecoin profit on my ltcusd. (NOT LTCBTC!!) but I'm not
[2017-04-05 14:03:18] Nutella : dash has roger ver money behind it
[2017-04-05 14:03:38] Ahhere : yeah dash has not much supply too so its easy to pump
[2017-04-05 14:03:40] Nutella : ETH is bitcoin nemesis, already go up when BTC in trouble
[2017-04-05 14:03:44] Nutella : so u can't compare
[2017-04-05 14:03:57] Ahhere : look what ltc is doing despite the 2 year bagholders all cashing out
[2017-04-05 14:04:00] laisee : well done @Ahhere. Careful to avoid the d.u.m.p when BTC forks
[2017-04-05 14:04:05] Nutella : it's gonna go up cos others went up...yeah bet ur money on that
[2017-04-05 14:04:25] Ahhere : are we farking forking now? @laisee
[2017-04-05 14:04:40] laisee : Fork by Xmas
[2017-04-05 14:04:48] Ahhere : for forks sake. FARK!
[2017-04-05 14:04:54] Ahhere : CONFIRMED??
[2017-04-05 14:05:27] laisee : Yes. Roger Ver has sent the memo and it will happen. oh, yes.
[2017-04-05 14:05:44] Nutella : LTC asymmetric bet here , small upside big downside
[2017-04-05 14:06:19] frog : nothing happen with btc no-one ever agree and every 5 minutes new proposal
[2017-04-05 14:06:27] laisee : yeah, if LTC fails does anyone care - except for 200 bag holders?
[2017-04-05 14:07:15] frog : a bit of actual buying on finex free run up is over
[2017-04-05 14:09:02] MikeHunt : the future will be decided perhaps in May
[2017-04-05 14:09:08] MikeHunt : next major btc meeting
[2017-04-05 14:09:18] MikeHunt : succesful = btc pump and alt dump
[2017-04-05 14:09:22] MikeHunt : fail = opposite
[2017-04-05 14:12:50] frog : looks like dump incoming
[2017-04-05 14:13:29] stf28 : ltc on gox ?
[2017-04-05 14:13:43] MikeHunt : frog: LTC ?
[2017-04-05 14:15:06] frog : btc but not sure, depth seemed to get pulled
[2017-04-05 14:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.008480
[2017-04-05 14:16:39] LetsTP : guys is there any way to trade with a demo account ? I just want to make an idea how to calculate margins required and p/l-s based on leverages
[2017-04-05 14:16:54] BitMEX_Sam : LetsTP: Yeah, see https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2017-04-05 14:17:28] LetsTP : thank you !
[2017-04-05 14:23:17] frog : GL guys I gotta sleep. hopefully not liquidated when I wake up
[2017-04-05 14:23:28] MikeHunt : frog: use stop
[2017-04-05 14:25:01] frog : MikeHunt: good idea i'll use for 50% then I will sleep better, market looks volatile
[2017-04-05 14:31:25] MikeHunt : frog: you can also use app on phone to alert you
[2017-04-05 14:38:44] aguia7 : /fork
[2017-04-05 14:38:45] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 980.01 (-2.84%) Bitfinex BCU : 135.00 (-1.47%) SLQ : 10 hours, 9 mins```
[2017-04-05 14:41:27] JerryBuss : /price
[2017-04-05 14:41:31] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1125.61 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1128.60 (0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1128.00 (0.35%) itBit : 1127.00 (0.01%) Kraken : 1129.50 (0.35%) GDAX : 1127.96 (0.00%) SLQ : 43 mins```
[2017-04-05 14:52:02] aethlios : ltc usd volumes (real) were more then 100% the market cap so coin changes owners kast days. also ltc keeps strong which means more room to go higher.
[2017-04-05 14:57:46] L9 : /sentinent
[2017-04-05 14:57:52] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-05 14:57:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 25.46 / 74.54 Daily : 52.84 / 47.16 Weekly : 48.35 / 51.65 Monthly : 51.66 / 48.34```
[2017-04-05 15:01:05] MikeHunt : btc still seems to be on course for 1200
[2017-04-05 15:03:31] aguia7 : i believe, BTC, is most likely a term-short. Re-test 1110
[2017-04-05 15:04:42] MikeHunt : 1100 would create a nice double bottom
[2017-04-05 15:04:47] aguia7 : http://www.tradingview.com/x/l956ZFnR
[2017-04-05 15:04:48] MikeHunt : 1100*
[2017-04-05 15:04:56] aguia7 : yes, to
[2017-04-05 15:05:03] MikeHunt : 1110*
[2017-04-05 15:07:29] Poo : Sentiment is bullish?
[2017-04-05 15:08:30] aguia7 : yes, sentiment yes.
[2017-04-05 15:08:56] aguia7 : Poo: But, I'm not trusting too much, laughter.
[2017-04-05 15:09:02] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: fyi: still same issues with active orders. amended orders neber get updated. Really never.
[2017-04-05 15:09:11] wurstgelee : Still shows old value
[2017-04-05 15:09:21] BitMEX_Sam : I've seen this happen once or twice, but it's very rare
[2017-04-05 15:09:27] BitMEX_Sam : Switching panel tabs usually fixes it
[2017-04-05 15:09:39] wurstgelee : Always happens. And not only for me
[2017-04-05 15:09:51] wurstgelee : always happens for tetsuo tpo for example
[2017-04-05 15:09:57] wurstgelee : This is a bug
[2017-04-05 15:10:25] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: if u have to swith tabs to force an update, this sure sounds like a bug?
[2017-04-05 15:10:29] BitMEX_Sam : Always happens? As in, for every order, every time?
[2017-04-05 15:10:33] wurstgelee : -
[2017-04-05 15:10:35] BitMEX_Sam : I'm trying to track it down, did you see me say that it wasn't a bug?
[2017-04-05 15:10:38] wurstgelee : Yes. So far
[2017-04-05 15:10:43] wurstgelee : No
[2017-04-05 15:10:54] wurstgelee : I was reassuring myself
[2017-04-05 15:10:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-04-05 15:11:49] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: same happens with orders. Always shows orders ad partiaöly filled while they are long filled.
[2017-04-05 15:12:00] wurstgelee : *as partially
[2017-04-05 15:12:02] BitMEX_Sam : Does it clear up if you switch tabs on the panel?
[2017-04-05 15:12:13] wurstgelee : Ill check this at home
[2017-04-05 15:12:16] wurstgelee : mobile atm
[2017-04-05 15:12:26] BitMEX_Sam : Ok - let me know
[2017-04-05 15:12:33] BitMEX_Sam : That'll help me narrow down which part of the app is causing the issue.
[2017-04-05 15:12:42] wurstgelee : Give me an hour or two and ill report back
[2017-04-05 15:12:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-04-05 15:12:48] BitMEX_Sam : nw, I'm here all day
[2017-04-05 15:13:09] wurstgelee : :)
[2017-04-05 15:13:20] wurstgelee : I am talking about chrome btw
[2017-04-05 15:13:24] wurstgelee : As browser
[2017-04-05 15:13:35] BitMEX_Sam : Sure - once you're set we'll do a bit of debugging
[2017-04-05 15:13:39] abrkn : sam, your exchange is boss. ive been in bitcoin since 2011 and this is the bomb
[2017-04-05 15:13:42] wurstgelee : Ok
[2017-04-05 15:13:48] BitMEX_Sam : abrkn: :+1: Glad you like it
[2017-04-05 15:14:19] abrkn : ive been looking at the open source version of the trading ui grid and its real nice too
[2017-04-05 15:15:49] BitMEX_Sam : Oh, right. Wish I had more time for that, I want to do a v2 with plugin support but just haven't had the mental bandwidth to flesh out the whole API yet.
[2017-04-05 15:16:00] BitMEX_Sam : It works great here, but I understand people in the community want more.
[2017-04-05 15:16:59] abrkn : yeah, there could be a lot more debug warnings on bad config options, etc, but i realize that would take a considerable amount of dev effort
[2017-04-05 15:17:21] abrkn : ive prev worked form justcoin and kraken, so i looked a bit into your stuff.
[2017-04-05 15:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 3 @ 0.064168
[2017-04-05 15:18:26] aethlios : https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/849096344358854658 simple math people......
[2017-04-05 15:18:26] abrkn : do you really use kdb\q?
[2017-04-05 15:22:32] abrkn : lol aeth
[2017-04-05 15:23:57] hmmmYea : icebregggggg
[2017-04-05 15:24:04] hmmmYea : bergggg*
[2017-04-05 15:24:46] abrkn : iceberg?
[2017-04-05 15:24:54] hmmmYea : yes
[2017-04-05 15:25:05] abrkn : how do i know which market people are talking about?
[2017-04-05 15:25:40] hmmmYea : im takjing about ltc
[2017-04-05 15:25:47] hmmmYea : fwiw
[2017-04-05 15:25:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 780 @ 0.00003377
[2017-04-05 15:26:26] abrkn : ah, then im the iceberg
[2017-04-05 15:26:38] hmmmYea : how mamny more are u bid for?
[2017-04-05 15:26:53] abrkn : all the way to segwit
[2017-04-05 15:27:12] hmmmYea : no srsly
[2017-04-05 15:27:18] hmmmYea : oh nmd
[2017-04-05 15:27:22] hmmmYea : they gone
[2017-04-05 15:27:29] thomaskikansha : who bought a bunch at 865
[2017-04-05 15:27:30] BitMEX_Sam : abrkn: Yes, the engine is kdb+/q
[2017-04-05 15:27:45] abrkn : that awesome, sam. from scratch?
[2017-04-05 15:27:48] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2017-04-05 15:28:06] abrkn : were you inspired by say lmax at all?
[2017-04-05 15:28:29] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: please do spot trading, poloniex is so vulnerable right now to competitor with better tech
[2017-04-05 15:28:56] abrkn : this exchange is perfect atm. dont change
[2017-04-05 15:29:03] justinlooking : alt spot yay, fiat spot no way
[2017-04-05 15:29:11] BitMEX_Sam : abrkn: Not particularly. But I didn't do the kdb work, we thankfully have another partner for that.
[2017-04-05 15:29:15] hmmmYea : you guys would have a real shot at beating them and becoming the market leader.. win the game until the paradigm changes
[2017-04-05 15:29:17] BitMEX_Sam : I do all the server/web work.
[2017-04-05 15:29:28] BitMEX_Sam : hmmmYea: We would like to, but we are focusing on our core business at the moment.
[2017-04-05 15:29:31] abrkn : ok, cool. whats the web facing in?
[2017-04-05 15:29:39] BitMEX_Sam : Spot trading is a significantly different business.
[2017-04-05 15:29:40] abrkn : stack, that is
[2017-04-05 15:29:49] BitMEX_Sam : Mostly Node, React
[2017-04-05 15:29:56] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: its not very often a monopoly like polo's is vulnerable
[2017-04-05 15:29:58] abrkn : awesome. my kinda stack
[2017-04-05 15:30:16] BitMEX_Sam : Stays nice and cool. The web servers very rarely go above 10% load and we can scale them out horizontally as far as we need.
[2017-04-05 15:30:16] hmmmYea : in any industry
[2017-04-05 15:30:17] abrkn : do you have external funding or plans to raise in the future?
[2017-04-05 15:30:18] 123abc : someone just longed a lot of LTC at the top on here
[2017-04-05 15:30:23] BitMEX_Sam : abrkn: Not planning and no :)
[2017-04-05 15:30:40] BitMEX_Sam : hmmmYea: Keep in mind that Polo has not even been around that long; seasons change and leaders do too
[2017-04-05 15:30:42] abrkn : thats what i figured, but still interested :)
[2017-04-05 15:31:57] Ahhere : 123abc: 'the top'
[2017-04-05 15:33:20] thomaskikansha : 123abc: 10K ltc bag
[2017-04-05 15:33:43] 123abc : yeah 0.00865
[2017-04-05 15:33:56] 123abc : open contracts went up 13,000 recently
[2017-04-05 15:39:42] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: yea. its that way in all these new network effect heavy spaces... early adopters see the opportunity. do it. make the early money, mess it up.. professionals come in, lock up the space until it is obsolete
[2017-04-05 15:42:03] hmmmYea : unclear how long trading blockchain assets over the regular internet will be the dominant mode of exchange tho
[2017-04-05 15:43:29] abrkn : decentralized exchange isnt possible atm. would cause massive front running
[2017-04-05 15:43:46] sleger : why ?
[2017-04-05 15:44:07] abrkn : i can see you order something and then frontrun you without relaying your order
[2017-04-05 15:44:14] abrkn : my order will seem like the newest one
[2017-04-05 15:44:42] abrkn : it has been a problem with ripple forever
[2017-04-05 15:44:50] sleger : with the current decimalization on most exchanges, time priority is completely irrelevant
[2017-04-05 15:44:57] sleger : ESPECIALLY on ripple
[2017-04-05 15:45:14] sleger : i meant on all alts in polo
[2017-04-05 15:46:54] aethlios : sleger: i am milking swap here 100k with hedge finex, nice funding last 4 periods.
[2017-04-05 15:47:55] sleger : yes im long swap too for the same reason
[2017-04-05 15:49:05] aethlios : futures are very bearish across the board. and btc still 240 usd above last bottom.
[2017-04-05 15:49:18] 123abc : blame china
[2017-04-05 15:49:20] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-05 15:49:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 52.33 / 47.67 Daily : 52.63 / 47.37 Weekly : 48.39 / 51.61 Monthly : 51.66 / 48.34```
[2017-04-05 15:49:32] aethlios : i will monitor cryptof..... if the pump whale appear again in friday.
[2017-04-05 15:50:04] ShervinD : aethlios: long XBT here and short spot on finex?
[2017-04-05 15:50:41] aethlios : ShervinD: long swap here yes and short finex with a 0.035% loaned btc for 20 days locked
[2017-04-05 15:50:56] ShervinD : ahh nice.
[2017-04-05 15:51:45] aethlios : ShervinD: you can think many complex strategies using spot bitmex okcoin futures. and earn "no market risk" profits
[2017-04-05 15:52:22] aethlios : i say no market risk, because other risks still remain unhedged
[2017-04-05 15:54:09] sleger : and the more you talk about it the more people will do it the less it will be profitable
[2017-04-05 15:55:19] ShervinD : aethlios: I GTG, but will ask you more about it some other day. I'm still researching strategies and then will have to back / forwards test etc.
[2017-04-05 15:55:37] aethlios : sleger: yes we should stop it, but market conditions change so need always to think new and those returns are unattractive to small capital. above 100k capital needed.
[2017-04-05 15:56:07] hmmmYea : aethlios: none that makes sense except the first 5 words
[2017-04-05 15:56:34] ShervinD : delta neutral FTW :)
[2017-04-05 15:56:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1120.20
[2017-04-05 15:57:03] hmmmYea : lots of people have access to tiny quantities of capital like $100k
[2017-04-05 15:57:13] aethlios : sleger is right, each trader must think his strategies, but we can help how bitmex works. but if you search you will find.
[2017-04-05 16:01:56] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-05 16:01:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 69.82 / 30.18 Daily : 54.33 / 45.68 Weekly : 48.50 / 51.50 Monthly : 51.67 / 48.33```
[2017-04-05 16:02:37] Klerni : is admin there?
[2017-04-05 16:02:42] Klerni : I have technical problem....
[2017-04-05 16:04:27] thomaskikansha : 12K bid :o
[2017-04-05 16:07:10] stf28 : /wall
[2017-04-05 16:07:10] trollbot : ``` /wall is a paid command now! Pay 100 BTC to Farzad aka GOD.```
[2017-04-05 16:07:23] 123abc : lol someone is loading up on LTC
[2017-04-05 16:07:28] BitMEX_Sam : Must be a leftover April 1 joke.
[2017-04-05 16:07:32] 123abc : i guess there is only 1 direction it will go
[2017-04-05 16:07:32] BitMEX_Sam : Klerni: What's the issue?
[2017-04-05 16:08:15] thomaskikansha : 123abc: its like 20K long if that one is filled
[2017-04-05 16:08:42] hmmmYea : abrkn: shoulda told me your full size
[2017-04-05 16:08:50] Ahhere : trollbot: /suggest btc address for 100btc fee
[2017-04-05 16:09:41] abrkn : oh?
[2017-04-05 16:12:06] Poo : /wall
[2017-04-05 16:12:07] trollbot : ``` /wall is a paid command now! Pay 100 BTC to Farzad aka GOD.```
[2017-04-05 16:12:17] Poo : meh
[2017-04-05 16:13:41] laisee : /shutdown -h now
[2017-04-05 16:15:09] 123abc : alt+f4 to make your position bigger
[2017-04-05 16:15:14] 123abc : automatically
[2017-04-05 16:15:42] 123abc : time to increase my LTC position
[2017-04-05 16:15:48] 123abc : the train is leaving the station
[2017-04-05 16:15:52] Nutella : yeah u do that
[2017-04-05 16:15:55] abrkn : i hope!
[2017-04-05 16:16:31] 123abc : no surprise dump
[2017-04-05 16:16:33] JerryBuss : /price
[2017-04-05 16:16:35] 123abc : 100% pump instead
[2017-04-05 16:16:35] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1121.36 (-0.38%) Bitfinex : 1122.40 (-0.55%) The Woodchipper : 1118.35 (-0.86%) itBit : 1121.69 (-0.47%) Kraken : 1120.15 (-0.83%) GDAX : 1121.51 (-0.57%) SLQ : 1 hour, 35 mins```
[2017-04-05 16:16:38] lorestr : 123abc: whats your LTC target? 0.0950?
[2017-04-05 16:16:42] abrkn : http://segwit.co/ltc
[2017-04-05 16:16:49] 123abc : 0.0135
[2017-04-05 16:16:50] laisee : ctrl-Z to unwind a bad trade
[2017-04-05 16:16:52] abrkn : no improvement in segwit so far
[2017-04-05 16:17:09] lorestr : 123abc: timing?
[2017-04-05 16:17:34] abrkn : ltc will segwit and moon or fail and, well, fail. easy as that
[2017-04-05 16:18:01] 123abc : segwit wont activate till end of the month most likely
[2017-04-05 16:18:14] 123abc : that that is only if BW.com signals within a few days
[2017-04-05 16:18:21] lorestr : 123abc: so hype into may?
[2017-04-05 16:18:30] abrkn : the comments from bw today on twitter did not look too good
[2017-04-05 16:18:34] abrkn : or theyre just being coy
[2017-04-05 16:18:47] 123abc : probably big pump once 75% hits and then pump continues if it stays above 75%
[2017-04-05 16:18:59] 123abc : my guess is BW.com is holding off to buy more cheap LTC
[2017-04-05 16:19:07] abrkn : thats my guess too, abc
[2017-04-05 16:19:09] 123abc : before signalling
[2017-04-05 16:19:22] 123abc : which is silly they have had many months
[2017-04-05 16:19:26] abrkn : i dont see why they would reply as such smartasses unless they are stalling
[2017-04-05 16:20:01] abrkn : the way i understand it is some pools had trouble upgrading from running very old distro versions
[2017-04-05 16:21:50] Nutella : so price is going up cos insiders are buying?
[2017-04-05 16:21:56] aethlios : much silence lately to fork debate. sw? bu? or nothing?
[2017-04-05 16:22:16] Nutella : ETF alert <<NEVER FORGET>>>
[2017-04-05 16:22:17] aethlios : or another proposal?
[2017-04-05 16:22:32] abrkn : i monitor both r/bitcoin and r/btc and the latter seems to be losing some steam the last few days
[2017-04-05 16:22:58] abrkn : bcoin came up with extended blocks, but it didnt seem to stir up much
[2017-04-05 16:23:16] Nutella : remember sleger said bitcoin was up cos liquidity providers were buying coins before its approved
[2017-04-05 16:23:23] Nutella : I member!
[2017-04-05 16:23:54] sleger : what ??
[2017-04-05 16:24:01] sleger : I dont even know what you're saying
[2017-04-05 16:26:30] Nutella : hehe
[2017-04-05 16:26:32] Nutella : i member
[2017-04-05 16:27:19] Nutella : did that 12k execute?
[2017-04-05 16:27:20] sleger : fake news !
[2017-04-05 16:27:45] Nutella : the facts is real but news fake?
[2017-04-05 16:28:00] thomaskikansha : Nutella: it was filled
[2017-04-05 16:28:15] sleger : no you must have me confused with someone else. Also no idea what that 12k you're talking about is
[2017-04-05 16:31:20] hmmmYea : abrkn: whats your liq price?
[2017-04-05 16:31:24] hmmmYea : for my records
[2017-04-05 16:31:42] abrkn : i wont say
[2017-04-05 16:32:09] abrkn : i definitely gambling on bw making a move, thats for sure
[2017-04-05 16:32:59] wurstgelee : @BitMEX_Sam: I'm back but my free evening just got canceled by work. We'll have to postpone the debugging thing.... :/
[2017-04-05 16:33:10] hmmmYea : cool
[2017-04-05 16:34:07] abrkn : in my head the ltc miners have been stock piling for years
[2017-04-05 16:34:22] abrkn : and this is their moment. fill the vacuum
[2017-04-05 16:35:22] hmmmYea : ok, now that we know who'll be doing the selling
[2017-04-05 16:35:35] hmmmYea : who's donig the buying?
[2017-04-05 16:35:35] sleger : if they have been mining in your head for years that explains why there isnt much left @abrkn ?
[2017-04-05 16:36:31] hmmmYea : so SW activates, miners sell a shit ton of litecoin, you sell a mini-shit ton of litecoin = profit?
[2017-04-05 16:36:38] abrkn : ive also suspected for a year+ that coinbase and their investors will become fed up with core, realize they own a coin already through c lee, and bet on it
[2017-04-05 16:37:51] Nutella : sleger: lol
[2017-04-05 16:38:05] hmmmYea : oh... coinbase is the buyer
[2017-04-05 16:38:06] Nutella : that's sleger 1 funny joke for 2017
[2017-04-05 16:38:09] hmmmYea : ok
[2017-04-05 16:38:11] Nutella : next one in 2018
[2017-04-05 16:38:31] abrkn : about the coinbase idea, it seems less likely now than at the max of the civil war
[2017-04-05 16:39:23] hmmmYea : literally everyone knows sw is happening for ltc
[2017-04-05 16:39:44] abrkn : i honestly asked some ltc people today where i could find a sw wallet if one exists
[2017-04-05 16:39:53] abrkn : because i want to see this stuff after all the talk
[2017-04-05 16:40:34] abrkn : and if its awesome, that means we can use ltc for instant exchange-to-exchange transfers in no time
[2017-04-05 16:41:17] aethlios : ltc opens the door for much development so after a small sell the news a 2 year slow bull market can start until halving of august 2019.
[2017-04-05 16:42:18] abrkn : i mean, bi directional payment channels would make any big player (exchanges, bitpay, ...) able to transfer in millisecs. would change arbitrage for sure
[2017-04-05 16:42:27] hmmmYea : aethlios: my hunch is that sell the news for ltc will be violent and shocking
[2017-04-05 16:42:36] hmmmYea : where are you at on that?
[2017-04-05 16:43:42] aethlios : this is not random news, is a game changer, so i predict serious long term capital to invest after that. like they did in eth.
[2017-04-05 16:44:07] Nutella : how is it game changer
[2017-04-05 16:44:20] Nutella : oh the big money is coming
[2017-04-05 16:44:30] Nutella : reminds me of wall street money and bitcoin ETF
[2017-04-05 16:44:36] hmmmYea : aethlios: you meaning lightning network or segwit?
[2017-04-05 16:44:58] Nutella : he said earlier LN wont be active for 12 months
[2017-04-05 16:45:05] abrkn : doesnt even require LN. there are a lot of other networks like it that will work as soon as theres segwit
[2017-04-05 16:45:18] aethlios : SW opens the door for LN, fixes malleability, confitential txs, nad many more.
[2017-04-05 16:45:34] Nutella : whats game changing?
[2017-04-05 16:45:51] abrkn : instant transfers if you have a channel open
[2017-04-05 16:46:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 7 @ 0.00003423
[2017-04-05 16:46:26] Nutella : instant compared to 2 mins?
[2017-04-05 16:46:37] Nutella : not much gain there
[2017-04-05 16:46:45] abrkn : if youre buying something in a shop it is
[2017-04-05 16:46:51] aethlios : block size stays 1 mb with SW, just as a side effect it creates more space to the block. so SW is not a block size primary solution. if was that price would be still 4 as ltc has no block size issue.
[2017-04-05 16:47:03] Nutella : loool buying in a shop with LTC? good luck with that
[2017-04-05 16:47:58] aethlios : LN can also create stable exchange rate between the parties!!!!!!!
[2017-04-05 16:48:15] aethlios : didn't know that??
[2017-04-05 16:48:48] Nutella : guess that justifies the 130% price jump
[2017-04-05 16:49:03] Nutella : not at all pump by charlie lee
[2017-04-05 16:49:04] aethlios : important is that development started in LTC and CL is very active and leading.
[2017-04-05 16:50:35] aethlios : top in ltc will be when i will bearish and most of you will be super bullish
[2017-04-05 16:51:17] Poo : /sentiment
[2017-04-05 16:51:20] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 64.36 / 35.64 Daily : 53.31 / 46.69 Weekly : 48.56 / 51.44 Monthly : 51.66 / 48.34```
[2017-04-05 16:52:56] thomaskikansha : $9.8
[2017-04-05 16:52:58] aethlios : 9,90/
[2017-04-05 16:53:16] sleger : rapid stop is at 10
[2017-04-05 16:53:19] sleger : ouchie
[2017-04-05 16:53:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 24 @ 0.042020
[2017-04-05 16:54:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 6779 @ 0.002457
[2017-04-05 16:54:40] aethlios : rapid will double short or nothing.
[2017-04-05 16:55:03] sleger : he said he would stop loss at 10, i doubt he will, he calls himself the "best trader"
[2017-04-05 16:55:29] aethlios : finex 10,00
[2017-04-05 16:56:26] 123abc : Ltc lol
[2017-04-05 16:56:34] 123abc : That short
[2017-04-05 16:56:36] aethlios : alts up today, btc dominance % going down
[2017-04-05 16:57:22] thomaskikansha : that huge long was definitely the one to follow
[2017-04-05 16:58:42] aethlios : 10 was old resistance (pivot double digits also) next i see is 19 which is the previous ATH market cap.
[2017-04-05 16:59:25] king.rex : who was selling all that LTC @ 865?
[2017-04-05 16:59:37] sleger : a loser
[2017-04-05 17:00:04] hmmmYea : lol
[2017-04-05 17:00:16] Poo : sleger: whats your target for ltc?
[2017-04-05 17:00:32] sleger : when the pump is over
[2017-04-05 17:00:54] thomaskikansha : we not even fomoing
[2017-04-05 17:01:29] thomaskikansha : three digits in CNY is possible I think
[2017-04-05 17:01:37] aethlios : thomaskikansha: slow accumulation, the coin changes hands, many usd millions of volume every day
[2017-04-05 17:02:00] arbitrage101 : i bought some pre-pump coin
[2017-04-05 17:02:11] arbitrage101 : someone go pump more alt
[2017-04-05 17:02:41] Ahhere : I closed my ETH long at 20$ not gonna be so silly with ltc
[2017-04-05 17:02:54] arbitrage101 : eth still long way to go
[2017-04-05 17:03:06] arbitrage101 : going to sell half at 500
[2017-04-05 17:03:11] Ahhere : Not this month @arbitrage101
[2017-04-05 17:03:14] arbitrage101 : and remaining half at 1000
[2017-04-05 17:03:32] Ahhere : Ltc is the sexy lady right now
[2017-04-05 17:03:38] thomaskikansha : that uptrend for ltc has been beautiful enough to hold
[2017-04-05 17:03:39] aethlios : my ltc target is halving august 2019. keep in mind new fiat entering crytpo constantly.
[2017-04-05 17:03:43] arbitrage101 : will use my usd to buy some girlfriends
[2017-04-05 17:04:05] aethlios : until then lending and arbing.
[2017-04-05 17:04:17] Poo : arbitrage101: lol i think the term is prostitutes
[2017-04-05 17:04:33] Dnavid : Btc-e dump / Bitfinex pump?
[2017-04-05 17:04:40] arbitrage101 : Poo: not entirely accurate in asia
[2017-04-05 17:04:47] arbitrage101 : or 3rd world country
[2017-04-05 17:04:54] Poo : holiday, hookers and blow why else are we hear?
[2017-04-05 17:05:03] Poo : here
[2017-04-05 17:05:13] Poo : tbf i got debts to pay so that first
[2017-04-05 17:05:16] arbitrage101 : some girls do marry for financial security
[2017-04-05 17:05:26] Ahhere : arbitrage101: can never have too many girlfriends
[2017-04-05 17:05:29] Poo : why would you marry one?
[2017-04-05 17:05:30] Actualiteit : Poo: trading to pay debts, smart guy
[2017-04-05 17:05:34] Poo : u crazy?
[2017-04-05 17:05:35] arbitrage101 : pretty much same as gold digger in the west
[2017-04-05 17:06:09] arbitrage101 : Poo: you think you can tell your wife love you for real and not other reason?
[2017-04-05 17:06:19] Poo : arbitrage101: you must be worth more than just the money you have, marrying someone for money makes you a hooker in my world
[2017-04-05 17:06:36] Poo : arbitrage101: yes
[2017-04-05 17:07:45] Poo : arbitrage101: i dont jnow if that is rare but i got one of that kind. Settle for nothing less. You dont pay wonen to stay with you
[2017-04-05 17:07:50] Poo : you pay them to go away
[2017-04-05 17:08:13] arbitrage101 : people choose to stay together for many reasons
[2017-04-05 17:08:32] arbitrage101 : social pressure, security, free sex
[2017-04-05 17:08:34] Nutella : chin a$8.2 west $10
[2017-04-05 17:08:34] arbitrage101 : etc
[2017-04-05 17:08:49] arbitrage101 : and rapid manage to stay alive this time?
[2017-04-05 17:09:05] Poo : arbitrage101: i guess, i mean when your 80 nice to have a sugar baby for sure
[2017-04-05 17:09:09] arbitrage101 : having 2 extremely bad trade in a year
[2017-04-05 17:09:11] thomaskikansha : Nutella: China on slow motion mode for months
[2017-04-05 17:09:35] Nutella : china true price, cos no margin
[2017-04-05 17:09:51] Dynamix : LTC back to 800 ? :D
[2017-04-05 17:09:54] arbitrage101 : Poo: 80 year old cant get cock up
[2017-04-05 17:10:10] Poo : Im long eth should i be worried?
[2017-04-05 17:10:17] arbitrage101 : nope
[2017-04-05 17:10:21] Poo : arbitrage101: id rather be dead then
[2017-04-05 17:10:22] arbitrage101 : i am long eth also
[2017-04-05 17:10:28] thomaskikansha : 820/830 would be nice
[2017-04-05 17:10:30] arbitrage101 : which is good
[2017-04-05 17:10:35] arbitrage101 : old man can get hard
[2017-04-05 17:10:47] arbitrage101 : othwerwise, all the young guy wont be able to compete
[2017-04-05 17:11:14] arbitrage101 : cant get hard i mean
[2017-04-05 17:11:24] Poo : arbitrage101: you live in asia?
[2017-04-05 17:11:36] arbitrage101 : pretty obvious, isnt it
[2017-04-05 17:11:42] oo : Poo: i'm long too
[2017-04-05 17:12:25] Poo : arbitrage101: go to england drunk girls just wanna have fun lol
[2017-04-05 17:12:27] Ahhere : Guise who want riches?
[2017-04-05 17:12:51] arbitrage101 : england too expensive for most asian
[2017-04-05 17:12:51] Ahhere : And who want bitches
[2017-04-05 17:12:58] zqooN : Ahhere: if you wrap them nicely
[2017-04-05 17:13:07] arbitrage101 : Poo: do attractive girls also act that way?
[2017-04-05 17:13:08] Poo : I kinda wanna get out of eth go more into ltc or dash, eth aint moving even tho bitcoin down
[2017-04-05 17:13:11] oo : Poo: but the closing long is imminient
[2017-04-05 17:13:31] arbitrage101 : Poo: eth fundamental is way better than ltc and dash
[2017-04-05 17:13:42] Ahhere : And who just burgers?
[2017-04-05 17:13:44] arbitrage101 : ltc and dash have no usage