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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-04-05 08:14:46] Kalman : /joke [2017-04-05 08:14:47] trollbot : ``` Many people are shocked... ...when they find out I'm a horrible electrician.``` [2017-04-05 08:14:47] herpinator : I was short from 1134 but I closed too early ;-; [2017-04-05 08:15:22] Kalman : herpinator: crying doesnt change that [2017-04-05 08:15:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 218930 @ 1113.60 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2017-04-05 08:15:35] uej : what are the consequences of increasing leverage on and existing post? and why would one do that? i have 5x on ltc but wondring if i should increase it. [2017-04-05 08:16:01] herpinator : Kalman: hahaha you know it [2017-04-05 08:16:19] herpinator : uej: increase it to free up more margin to trade with [2017-04-05 08:16:26] herpinator : be careful though [2017-04-05 08:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 16000 @ 1112.00 [2017-04-05 08:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5 @ 1112.10 [2017-04-05 08:17:04] uej : i think i am gonna stick with 5x leverage and would buy the dips [2017-04-05 08:17:06] BitMEX_John : uej: if you increase your leverage it will reduce the margin allocated, but it was also make liquidation more likely [2017-04-05 08:17:48] thomaskikansha : 5x is decent enough [2017-04-05 08:18:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 201 @ 0.042420 [2017-04-05 08:19:39] thomaskikansha : 800 good long entry [2017-04-05 08:21:25] uej : would buying the dips would also lower liq. price? [2017-04-05 08:22:24] thomaskikansha : if you are at fixed 5x leverage yes [2017-04-05 08:22:51] thomaskikansha : if your new entry is lower than your average entry price [2017-04-05 08:24:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 59852 @ 1106.20 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2017-04-05 08:26:14] BitMEX_John : uej: you can use the 'Liquidation Price' tab of the calculator tool to model your liquidation price [2017-04-05 08:26:32] uej : BitMEX_John: does changing leverage on existing post costs? [2017-04-05 08:27:06] BitMEX_John : uej: what do you mean? [2017-04-05 08:28:27] uej : BitMEX_John: changing Leverage from 5x to lower if ROE is going downwards? will it protect you from further loses and would doing suck cost any fee? [2017-04-05 08:29:20] BitMEX_John : uej: there is no fee to change your level of leverage [2017-04-05 08:30:03] BitMEX_John : uej: when you reduce your leverage you assign more margin to the position so your ROE% will go down [2017-04-05 08:45:22] binacoin : BitMEX_John: What did I do wrong? I placed a Stop Limit (Limit Price @ 1135 and Stop Price @1134), but it never got triggered? [2017-04-05 08:46:00] binacoin : price just walked right through it to 1138 [2017-04-05 08:46:17] startChat : look at order history [2017-04-05 08:46:20] startChat : might have been rejected [2017-04-05 08:49:01] binacoin : price just walked right through it to 1138 [2017-04-05 08:49:41] binacoin : startChat: no it wasn't I was sitting right in front of my PC and the stop limit was still active [2017-04-05 08:56:05] reyno : /sentiment [2017-04-05 08:56:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.72 / 29.28 Daily : 60.31 / 39.69 Weekly : 48.32 / 51.68 Monthly : 51.64 / 48.36``` [2017-04-05 09:04:35] men : take a look to monero guys.. cup and handle [2017-04-05 09:04:39] men : will play soon [2017-04-05 09:06:17] binacoin : /price [2017-04-05 09:06:19] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1117.67 (0.31%) Bitfinex : 1117.90 (0.23%) The Woodchipper : 1112.51 (0.05%) itBit : 1118.40 (-0.08%) Kraken : 1117.11 (0.12%) GDAX : 1124.20 (-0.07%) SLQ : 55 mins``` [2017-04-05 09:13:46] BitMEX_John : binacoin: are you still here? [2017-04-05 09:15:00] CrazySteve : /sentiment [2017-04-05 09:15:02] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 58.49 / 41.51 Daily : 59.99 / 40.01 Weekly : 48.31 / 51.69 Monthly : 51.64 / 48.36``` [2017-04-05 09:15:32] oo : ㅇㅇ [2017-04-05 09:15:41] oo : oo [2017-04-05 09:16:50] binacoin : yes john [2017-04-05 09:17:38] binacoin : BitMEX_John: yes [2017-04-05 09:18:10] uej : thomaskikansha: good time buy this little ltc dip or it cant be categorized as dip yet? [2017-04-05 09:18:23] nolim1t : /sentiment ltc [2017-04-05 09:18:29] BitMEX_John : binacoin: great, regarding your stop loss question, has the order been triggered but not filled? [2017-04-05 09:19:04] binacoin : I guess so, so I briefly left my pc [2017-04-05 09:19:18] thomaskikansha : uej: can add first entry here...but I prefer 800 if it can reach [2017-04-05 09:19:20] binacoin : I came back and saw order still active but did not trigger [2017-04-05 09:19:28] binacoin : I had to market close it to avoid liquidation [2017-04-05 09:20:06] BitMEX_John : binacoin: okay, was it a buy or sell order? [2017-04-05 09:20:44] binacoin : the initial order was a sell [2017-04-05 09:20:45] thomaskikansha : uej: sub-800 is possible if consider the bottom of uptrend at 1H [2017-04-05 09:20:51] binacoin : the stop was a buy [2017-04-05 09:21:46] oo : ooooooooooooo [2017-04-05 09:22:11] Kalman : /joke [2017-04-05 09:22:14] trollbot : ``` My girlfriend's parents are very religious The first time I went to stay with her at her parents' house her dad wouldn't let us sleep together. Which is a shame because he is very attractive.``` [2017-04-05 09:22:31] uej : thomaskikansha: it might swing down to the 750s [2017-04-05 09:23:29] BitMEX_John : binacoin: I see, so you had your limit buy order at $1235 triggered at $1234 - what time was the order placed? [2017-04-05 09:23:57] binacoin : not john [2017-04-05 09:24:00] thomaskikansha : uej: yeah also possible but if btc keep moving down it may not reach that low [2017-04-05 09:24:23] binacoin : 11235 and 11235 [2017-04-05 09:24:28] binacoin : yesterday [2017-04-05 09:24:30] uej : thomaskikansha: yeah, i also forgot that btc is going down [2017-04-05 09:24:38] thomaskikansha : I prefer somewhere like 780/790 [2017-04-05 09:25:26] thomaskikansha : that uptrend has been holding nicely [2017-04-05 09:25:35] BitMEX_John : binacoin: which contract is this? [2017-04-05 09:25:58] binacoin : swap [2017-04-05 09:26:20] thomaskikansha : and we have new high lately to support that uptrend [2017-04-05 09:26:29] aethlios : btc can't hold the line. [2017-04-05 09:26:51] Farzad : btc going down boys [2017-04-05 09:26:54] Farzad : https://www.tradingview.com/x/eLnQdIot [2017-04-05 09:26:59] BitMEX_John : binacoin: okay, so you placed a stop limit order, both the trigger and limit price at 1123.5? [2017-04-05 09:27:55] binacoin : BitMEX_John: Trigger 11234 and Limit price at 11235 [2017-04-05 09:28:22] Farzad : /price [2017-04-05 09:28:23] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1118.00 (0.03%) Bitfinex : 1118.70 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1114.10 (0.14%) itBit : 1118.87 (0.04%) Kraken : 1116.18 (-0.08%) GDAX : 1124.24 (0.00%) SLQ : 22 mins``` [2017-04-05 09:29:05] BitMEX_John : binacoin: do you know if you had post-only selected on this? [2017-04-05 09:29:16] binacoin : not sure [2017-04-05 09:29:35] thomaskikansha : btc not even bouncing... [2017-04-05 09:29:36] binacoin : BitMEX_John: I'm not sure I selected post-only [2017-04-05 09:30:14] binacoin : thomaskikansha: because downtrend is in progress, nobody want to buy at 1122 [2017-04-05 09:30:36] BitMEX_John : binacoin: this is most probably the issue, when you have post-only selected the order will be rejected if it can be immediately executed [2017-04-05 09:31:04] BitMEX_John : binacoin: if you would like to close your position once the trigger price is hit the best way to do this is to use a stop market order [2017-04-05 09:31:54] binacoin : BitMEX_John: alright...lesson learnt! [2017-04-05 09:33:43] binacoin : BitMEX_John: stop market does not have trigger price...right? [2017-04-05 09:34:32] BitMEX_John : binacoin: the trigger price and the order price are the same in this instance [2017-04-05 09:36:01] binacoin : BitMEX_John: okay [2017-04-05 09:38:43] oo : ETH [2017-04-05 09:44:54] oo : You can solve the problem that order is not filled, by setting limit price higher or lower than the stop price [2017-04-05 09:50:48] men : btc cmon go down :D [2017-04-05 09:51:39] binacoin : /price [2017-04-05 09:51:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1122.79 (0.43%) Bitfinex : 1123.40 (0.42%) The Woodchipper : 1118.25 (0.37%) itBit : 1121.37 (0.22%) Kraken : 1121.10 (0.44%) GDAX : 1125.00 (0.07%) SLQ : 23 mins``` [2017-04-05 09:52:09] binacoin : oo: are you referring to me? [2017-04-05 09:52:14] frog : men: why is it going up? [2017-04-05 09:52:51] vgck : Why not? [2017-04-05 09:52:53] binacoin : sentiment [2017-04-05 09:52:55] men : frog: ahahah no but i want to it drop hard :P [2017-04-05 09:52:58] men : ;) [2017-04-05 09:54:26] frog : men: must be a trap [2017-04-05 09:54:58] men : bull trap [2017-04-05 09:56:38] SilverKnight : guys its going up because it hit support [2017-04-05 09:56:43] SilverKnight : there was demand there [2017-04-05 09:56:46] SilverKnight : look at the volume [2017-04-05 09:56:55] SilverKnight : rather large spike into 1110 [2017-04-05 09:57:16] SilverKnight : simple as that [2017-04-05 09:57:55] frog : it was all selling [2017-04-05 09:58:26] men : bull tap [2017-04-05 09:58:27] men : *rap [2017-04-05 09:58:29] men : look [2017-04-05 09:58:30] men : chart [2017-04-05 09:58:36] men : death cross incoming 4h [2017-04-05 09:58:56] men : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deathcross.asp [2017-04-05 09:59:12] SilverKnight : frog: if it was all selling then it wouldnt be going up now... [2017-04-05 09:59:22] frog : yeah soon be below 1100 [2017-04-05 09:59:27] SilverKnight : ... [2017-04-05 09:59:35] men : 2h excuse me [2017-04-05 09:59:50] SilverKnight : it may go below 1100 yes, but for now we are reacting to demand [2017-04-05 10:00:06] SilverKnight : so, dont be surprised if we continue to drift up [2017-04-05 10:00:10] men : i think it is a big trap for [2017-04-05 10:00:12] men : noob [2017-04-05 10:00:14] SilverKnight : before finding more supply [2017-04-05 10:00:14] oo : I account for nearly 12 percent of the total bitmex ETH volume of trade. [2017-04-05 10:00:19] frog : me too [2017-04-05 10:01:57] men : https://cryptowat.ch/bitstamp/btcusd/2h [2017-04-05 10:02:10] men : zoom and look tjhe incoming death cross [2017-04-05 10:02:24] men : maybe i can be wrong [2017-04-05 10:02:27] men : i'm not god [2017-04-05 10:02:33] men : but chart tell this [2017-04-05 10:03:13] SilverKnight : men: trying to convince others doesn't change what will happen.... unless you can influence them all to sell :P [2017-04-05 10:03:44] SilverKnight : as far as I am concerned, we wont see lower prices until we see supply hit the market... [2017-04-05 10:03:55] SilverKnight : at the most recent appearance has been demand [2017-04-05 10:04:06] men : SilverKnight: no i'm not infamous, i don't want to convince no one, i dont like when people loose money [2017-04-05 10:04:13] men : and i dont like when i lose moeny [2017-04-05 10:04:16] men : *money [2017-04-05 10:04:35] SilverKnight : men: did anyone say they were buying? [2017-04-05 10:04:42] men : but i want to convince myself that my short will be good :P [2017-04-05 10:04:43] SilverKnight : im waiting for a short [2017-04-05 10:04:52] SilverKnight : and I dont think now is the time [2017-04-05 10:05:38] justinlooking : do a fib trace on finex, from 1339 to 888 (recent range) [2017-04-05 10:05:43] justinlooking : 1111 is 50% [2017-04-05 10:06:41] justinlooking : and yesterday high 1167 was 61.8% (almost to the tick) [2017-04-05 10:07:10] men : we will see with the next 2h candle [2017-04-05 10:07:48] justinlooking : if break 1111 then 1060 pretty quickly imo, however back thru 1167 on to 1243 far more likely (despite futures sentiment) [2017-04-05 10:09:07] binacoin : justinlooking: on what time frame? [2017-04-05 10:10:13] justinlooking : 2weeks™ ofc [2017-04-05 10:10:15] justinlooking : ;) [2017-04-05 10:11:22] binacoin : does it make sense to do a fib trace on 15m? [2017-04-05 10:11:24] laisee : couple of days +/- 1 s.d. [2017-04-05 10:13:59] justinlooking : oh tought you meant timeframe for 1243 [2017-04-05 10:14:02] binacoin : laisee: how do you analyse price movements on short term trade? [2017-04-05 10:14:25] binacoin : justinlooking: I meant, time frame for your fib trace [2017-04-05 10:14:51] laisee : I check my GB Index [2017-04-05 10:15:03] laisee : thats my Gut Bitcoin Index [2017-04-05 10:15:10] Ahhere : Guise stop shorting ok. Time for moon [2017-04-05 10:15:16] Ahhere : ? [2017-04-05 10:15:43] laisee : GBI depends on diet and last yuge profit/liquidation [2017-04-05 10:16:03] laisee : Ahhere: any good news to propel next p.u.m.p? [2017-04-05 10:16:21] Ahhere : Yes I use the BFI, butt feel index. @laisee [2017-04-05 10:16:25] justinlooking : binacoin: normally at least 30 days for a fib trace, but this one's a bit shorter because there's been lots of volatiltiy with significant high and low to use [2017-04-05 10:16:54] laisee : seat of your pants can be truthy, indeed [2017-04-05 10:17:22] Ahhere : preferably someone elses butt but yes OBI is effective (own butt index) [2017-04-05 10:17:29] laisee : not to mention the color of the undergarments ... [2017-04-05 10:17:42] Ahhere : ah a student of BFI I see [2017-04-05 10:18:08] Ahhere : Or just a dabbler in butt feel arts? [2017-04-05 10:18:13] laisee : Ahhere: does Fib tell anything but TA lies? [2017-04-05 10:18:24] binacoin : We are going up for the main time [2017-04-05 10:18:39] Ahhere : laisee: very good ? [2017-04-05 10:18:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 6035 @ 1115.90 [2017-04-05 10:19:23] laisee : REKT needs more sacrifices befre another pump is permitted. [2017-04-05 10:19:54] binacoin : 1130 soon... [2017-04-05 10:20:21] binacoin : /price [2017-04-05 10:20:23] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1128.17 (0.48%) Bitfinex : 1127.20 (0.34%) The Woodchipper : 1119.60 (0.12%) itBit : 1126.04 (0.42%) Kraken : 1128.50 (0.66%) GDAX : 1135.71 (0.95%) SLQ : 28 mins``` [2017-04-05 10:20:38] binacoin : gdax is so bullish [2017-04-05 10:25:01] binacoin : sentiment [2017-04-05 10:25:08] binacoin : /sentiment [2017-04-05 10:25:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 39.62 / 60.38 Daily : 59.89 / 40.11 Weekly : 48.53 / 51.47 Monthly : 51.64 / 48.36``` [2017-04-05 10:28:15] KyllingLolsson : Droolbox [2017-04-05 10:32:44] frog : okcoin holding the indwx down [2017-04-05 10:35:03] aethlios : nice swap negative funding, btc future traders bearish across the board. [2017-04-05 10:35:52] SilverKnight : woodchipper always lags below [2017-04-05 10:35:56] SilverKnight : or so it seems to me [2017-04-05 10:36:26] SilverKnight : so we've drifted up a bit now.... im still looking for a short [2017-04-05 10:36:36] frog : aethlios: yeah its good [2017-04-05 10:36:58] frog : SilverKnight: i think we get resistance aaround this level [2017-04-05 10:37:48] SilverKnight : might be.... however looking at the support levels... might stay supported at 1110ish [2017-04-05 10:38:01] SilverKnight : so, gotta factor that into the R/R of taking trades from here [2017-04-05 10:39:08] frog : i think may drop back 10 pts but hard top short when 3pts under index and okcoin low already [2017-04-05 10:41:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 2 @ 0.066191 [2017-04-05 10:42:06] DangerandPlay : news of remitsy's acquisition in china should have positive effect on btc price. [2017-04-05 10:42:58] aethlios : BW.com is considering support segwit on Litecoin.and will announce the result within a few days [2017-04-05 10:43:49] aethlios : if they do then SW will jump to 76% [2017-04-05 10:48:57] men : 1300 btc sell wall spotted on eth [2017-04-05 10:49:03] men : be careful [2017-04-05 10:50:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 30 @ 0.068655 [2017-04-05 10:51:15] ross : Dash moon [2017-04-05 10:51:37] men : dash instadrop [2017-04-05 10:51:44] 123abc : yeah [2017-04-05 10:52:28] 123abc : .07 [2017-04-05 10:52:36] men : and instampump [2017-04-05 10:52:37] 123abc : it just doubled in a few days [2017-04-05 10:52:39] 123abc : DASH is king [2017-04-05 10:52:40] men : lol [2017-04-05 10:53:49] men : dash is instable [2017-04-05 11:00:09] frog : nearly funding time.... [2017-04-05 11:01:46] 123abc : Xrp dump [2017-04-05 11:01:51] JerryBuss : i'm new is that the 8hr perp swap ? [2017-04-05 11:02:30] JerryBuss : @frog ? [2017-04-05 11:02:35] l3f : JerryBuss: yes [2017-04-05 11:02:38] l3f : buy bitcoin to get free cash [2017-04-05 11:03:29] JerryBuss : how is that calculated ? [2017-04-05 11:04:10] l3f : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding [2017-04-05 11:04:29] frog : JerryBuss: yeah, im new as well [2017-04-05 11:04:48] BitMEX_John : JerryBuss: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding [2017-04-05 11:04:59] frog : i was amazed to see they paid me for buying xbt [2017-04-05 11:05:48] frog : buy a couple of contract in the next half hour or so and you can see the funding pop up in your trade history [2017-04-05 11:05:51] JerryBuss : so to short it's better to wait for after funding, right ? [2017-04-05 11:06:06] frog : think so, [2017-04-05 11:06:39] frog : but price is probably more important tham the funding [2017-04-05 11:07:51] frog : there's a lot to learn here [2017-04-05 11:13:20] aethlios : deep deep discounts in futures, no one believes that fake pump. [2017-04-05 11:18:12] uej : is there a practical guid to learn about hedging and minimizing loses on a long post? i am a beginner [2017-04-05 11:25:52] rapidtrades : yeah BTC about to take a dive again [2017-04-05 11:26:01] rapidtrades : LTC will follow ofc as always [2017-04-05 11:27:04] aethlios : SW activation rally above 10 soon [2017-04-05 11:27:15] rapidtrades : yeah and then back to 5 [2017-04-05 11:27:26] aethlios : can ltcbtc male again 100% daily and jump to 20???????????? [2017-04-05 11:27:28] rapidtrades : do u understand that the code isn't even ready [2017-04-05 11:27:58] aethlios : code is ready and LN will be activated in next 12 months [2017-04-05 11:28:09] rapidtrades : loool 12 months [2017-04-05 11:28:12] laisee : SW activation rally on Bitmex == 20 mins of -10 ve spread ... [2017-04-05 11:28:14] rapidtrades : so back to $4 then [2017-04-05 11:28:41] rapidtrades : code is not ready [2017-04-05 11:28:56] BitMEX_John : uej: I would recommend starting by reading through our reference guide https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview [2017-04-05 11:28:57] aethlios : 10 usd is a pivot price, after 10 can jump to 12. we need 12 month stability at 12 [2017-04-05 11:29:10] rapidtrades : its a one man operation and he's busy shilling the worthless coin to miners instead of coding [2017-04-05 11:30:29] laisee : seems to have worked on ~40% of miners ... not bad for 1 guy in a garage [2017-04-05 11:30:31] aethlios : uej: https://blog.bitmex.com/?s=hedging check also the blog, search for words like hedge, hedging, arbitrage [2017-04-05 11:31:43] aethlios : rapidtrades: foundation ready and wants a deal with miners to donate a % of the block to fund development and hiring full time devs. [2017-04-05 11:32:03] rapidtrades : 'wants a deal' [2017-04-05 11:32:22] rapidtrades : im betting on a big fat NO from miners [2017-04-05 11:33:06] binacoin : sentimen/pricet [2017-04-05 11:33:12] binacoin : /price [2017-04-05 11:33:14] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1125.10 (-0.27%) Bitfinex : 1123.60 (-0.32%) The Woodchipper : 1117.99 (-0.14%) itBit : 1126.61 (0.05%) Kraken : 1124.00 (-0.40%) GDAX : 1130.17 (-0.49%) SLQ : 1 hour, 12 mins``` [2017-04-05 11:33:22] aethlios : For concerns about on-chain scaling, I understand your concerns. I promise you if and when the need arises for Litecoin to scale on-chain, the Litecoin developers and I will execute a hard fork to increase max block size for Litecoin. [2017-04-05 11:33:34] aethlios : CL to ltc miners promise. [2017-04-05 11:34:05] aethlios : Lastly, I plan to travel to China in June and want to meet with as many of the Chinese miners and pool operators as possible. I would love to hear your opinions about what you think the Litecoin development team should work on next. And at that time, I would much rather talk to you about new Litecoin features as oppose to still trying to convince you about SegWit. June big month!!!!!!!!! [2017-04-05 11:34:56] rapidtrades : lol june [2017-04-05 11:34:59] lorestr : aethlios: so buy LTC, right [2017-04-05 11:35:19] rapidtrades : yeah buy LTC after 150% rally [2017-04-05 11:35:28] rapidtrades : ur be a great trader [2017-04-05 11:35:37] lorestr : rapidtrades: 2500% to come [2017-04-05 11:35:59] rapidtrades : fo sho [2017-04-05 11:36:08] aethlios : lorestr: i bought at 4,00 2 months ago, so i sit on profit, so different situation. [2017-04-05 11:36:48] rapidtrades : 75% threshold is too low, it could easily fracture the coin [2017-04-05 11:36:53] aethlios : rapidtrades: now still april, you can buy before the june mega rally. [2017-04-05 11:37:08] lorestr : aethlios: so your profit is 100%*33=3300* [2017-04-05 11:37:21] rapidtrades : BU ppl can't let LTC be a success [2017-04-05 11:37:40] binacoin : /price [2017-04-05 11:37:42] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1126.50 (0.12%) Bitfinex : 1123.00 (-0.05%) The Woodchipper : 1115.50 (-0.22%) itBit : 1126.34 (-0.02%) Kraken : 1127.10 (0.28%) GDAX : 1130.00 (-0.02%) SLQ : 4 mins``` [2017-04-05 11:40:06] rapidtrades : which part of this says price should go up 100% https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Lightning_Network [2017-04-05 11:40:41] rapidtrades : i don't see what's so revolutionary about LN and LTC doesnt need faster transactions anyway [2017-04-05 11:40:49] rapidtrades : seems like a hype drive [2017-04-05 11:43:06] lorestr : rapidtrades: u have any position now? [2017-04-05 11:44:03] rapidtrades : don't worry about it [2017-04-05 11:45:20] rapidtrades : june discount easily into $50 if we crash [2017-04-05 11:47:11] lorestr : rapidtrades: ? [2017-04-05 11:47:44] vgck : rapidtrades: When, not if. We might see 900 again on this run down. [2017-04-05 11:49:25] lorestr : why u guys shout such levels like 1200 or 900, make at least 50 move idea to the right direction...lol 1070 or 1170 first? [2017-04-05 11:51:33] vgck : Because if we hit 1170 it's unlikely that we won't also see 1200 [2017-04-05 11:51:54] vgck : Likewise if we break 1080 we're definitely gonna go much deeper. [2017-04-05 11:52:15] vgck : And, no one is shouting... [2017-04-05 11:52:54] lorestr : vgck: so which level first? [2017-04-05 11:53:08] etoque : btc more down is good possibility? [2017-04-05 11:53:17] lorestr : etoque: ONLY UP [2017-04-05 11:53:21] vgck : lorestr: We broke bull trend, we're going down. [2017-04-05 11:53:28] etoque : i doubt it [2017-04-05 11:53:37] etoque : but [2017-04-05 11:53:40] etoque : maybe [2017-04-05 11:53:42] lorestr : vgck: WHICH LEVEL BROKE HAPPENED? [2017-04-05 11:53:53] vgck : wtf chill dude [2017-04-05 11:54:06] etoque : gogo btc need to crash [2017-04-05 11:54:12] etoque : time to enjoy second time altcoin [2017-04-05 11:54:33] lorestr : vgck: dude? is that your 2nd wife, punk?> [2017-04-05 11:55:01] laisee : vgck: sweet [2017-04-05 12:00:21] Actualiteit : lorestr: well and a good morning to you too sir. [2017-04-05 12:00:53] binacoin : /price [2017-04-05 12:00:57] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1128.56 (0.18%) Bitfinex : 1127.10 (0.37%) The Woodchipper : 1120.44 (0.44%) itBit : 1128.20 (0.17%) Kraken : 1127.10 (0.00%) GDAX : 1134.13 (0.37%) SLQ : 23 mins``` [2017-04-05 12:01:03] lorestr : Actualiteit: hi [2017-04-05 12:04:48] lorestr : Actualiteit: can u email me pls lorestr@gmail.com, txs [2017-04-05 12:06:39] binacoin : BitMEX_John: Why does my leverage n an open position decrease/increase at will? [2017-04-05 12:07:35] BitMEX_John : binacoin: the unrealised profit is included as margin for the position so your effective leverage will fluctuate [2017-04-05 12:09:30] binacoin : BitMEX_John: ah...thanks! [2017-04-05 12:10:56] binacoin : BitMEX_John: that means, if my urealised profit is positive, leverage will start decrease, vice versa? [2017-04-05 12:13:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRJ17`: sell 200 @ 0.017977 [2017-04-05 12:13:31] BitMEX_John : binacoin: yes, if you have unrealised profit your effective leverage will reduce and if you have unrealised loss your effective leverage will increase, that's correct [2017-04-05 12:17:35] binacoin : BitMEX_John: can it reduce to 0 during a fast pace uptrend? [2017-04-05 12:18:45] binacoin : BitMEX_John: maybe I should rephrase my question. How high/low can it go? [2017-04-05 12:19:00] lorestr : binacoin: no, 0 only after rekt [2017-04-05 12:20:59] BitMEX_John : binacoin: do you understand how margin works? [2017-04-05 12:21:29] binacoin : BitMEX_John: not completely [2017-04-05 12:21:48] binacoin : i tried reading your reference material, some of the terms are overwheming [2017-04-05 12:24:01] BitMEX_John : binacoin: I understand, which contract are you trading? I will try to help you understand how margin works [2017-04-05 12:24:18] lorestr : BitMEX_John: when API activated for withdrawal, I get no email for its confirmation or how it works? [2017-04-05 12:24:18] GoldyBoySachs : BitMEX_John: Hey there mate, I'm going to assume you're a bitmex employee - what are your thoughts on the gfc of 2011? [2017-04-05 12:24:34] GoldyBoySachs : Really important for my trading plan [2017-04-05 12:24:46] binacoin : BitMEX_John: perpertual swap [2017-04-05 12:24:52] BitMEX_John : lorestr: you have tried to make a withdrawal via API? [2017-04-05 12:25:02] lorestr : not yet [2017-04-05 12:25:24] lorestr : just want to understand mechanics [2017-04-05 12:25:25] BitMEX_John : GoldyBoySachs: haha, I can't help you with your trading plan :) [2017-04-05 12:26:27] BitMEX_John : binacoin: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD in the contract specification there are details on the initial margin and maintenance margin requirements [2017-04-05 12:27:58] lorestr : BitMEX_John: "[15:24] BitMEX_John: lorestr: you have tried to make a withdrawal via API? " /// not yet just want to understand mechanics [2017-04-05 12:28:04] binacoin : /price [2017-04-05 12:28:05] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1130.10 (0.14%) Bitfinex : 1127.50 (0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1120.00 (-0.04%) itBit : 1129.79 (0.14%) Kraken : 1126.58 (-0.05%) GDAX : 1134.72 (0.05%) SLQ : 27 mins``` [2017-04-05 12:28:14] BitMEX_John : lorestr: I'm not sure whether you still receive the withdrawal email, I will check with another memeber of the team one moment [2017-04-05 12:28:26] lorestr : BitMEX_John: txs [2017-04-05 12:31:32] Dynamix : BTC can't break 1130 yet eh ? :D [2017-04-05 12:32:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 172 @ 0.040910 [2017-04-05 12:33:28] lorestr : Dynamix: get ready for 1195 [2017-04-05 12:33:50] Dynamix : Lol haha ;) [2017-04-05 12:34:13] lorestr : Dynamix: lets bet :D [2017-04-05 12:34:22] Dynamix : Sure [2017-04-05 12:34:24] lorestr : what u have? [2017-04-05 12:34:28] Dynamix : 1btc it will see 1050 before 1200 :) [2017-04-05 12:34:40] lorestr : 1btc? 150btc? [2017-04-05 12:34:50] lorestr : I bet 15btc [2017-04-05 12:36:23] Dynamix : I dont have 15 btc haha [2017-04-05 12:37:34] Dynamix : I wish i did hehe :P I bet 1 btc and u bet 15 :)) [2017-04-05 12:37:59] BitMEX_John : lorestr: withdrawals made with the API are not confirmed via email [2017-04-05 12:38:19] BitMEX_John : lorestr: thanks for your patience [2017-04-05 12:39:12] lorestr : BitMEX_John: but they are processes same way as not API ones, right? [2017-04-05 12:40:00] BitMEX_John : lorestr: please read the reference material here and let me know if you have any further questions https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiKeysUsage [2017-04-05 12:41:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 17209 @ 1127.50 [2017-04-05 12:41:45] lorestr : REKT: good start [2017-04-05 12:42:22] SilverKnight : quite the drop off in volume on the slow btc rise we got going on [2017-04-05 12:42:31] SilverKnight : im thinking short soon... [2017-04-05 12:43:10] lorestr : SilverKnight: with short u will be short of btc [2017-04-05 12:43:51] SilverKnight : the real question is, when short, how short is short? [2017-04-05 12:45:15] lorestr : SilverKnight: MEGA REKT [2017-04-05 12:46:13] SilverKnight : mega short????? [2017-04-05 12:46:16] SilverKnight : *gasp* [2017-04-05 12:53:42] GoldyBoySachs : Please John answer my question [2017-04-05 12:53:46] GoldyBoySachs : Please please please [2017-04-05 13:08:16] Oludaray : lorestr: [2017-04-05 13:11:14] binacoin : /sentimenr [2017-04-05 13:11:20] binacoin : /sentiment [2017-04-05 13:11:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.67 / 55.33 Daily : 57.98 / 42.02 Weekly : 48.55 / 51.45 Monthly : 51.66 / 48.34``` [2017-04-05 13:13:58] binacoin : /price [2017-04-05 13:13:59] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1126.80 (-0.29%) Bitfinex : 1124.90 (-0.23%) The Woodchipper : 1123.00 (0.27%) itBit : 1128.23 (-0.14%) Kraken : 1126.49 (-0.01%) GDAX : 1131.98 (-0.24%) SLQ : 45 mins``` [2017-04-05 13:15:52] joy2015 : /sentiment [2017-04-05 13:15:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 46.31 / 53.69 Daily : 58.04 / 41.96 Weekly : 48.55 / 51.45 Monthly : 51.66 / 48.34``` [2017-04-05 13:27:02] frog : SilverKnight: seems to be going up on low volume and down with heavy volume [2017-04-05 13:31:26] bnz : frog: where? [2017-04-05 13:34:14] frog : bnz: finex [2017-04-05 13:35:33] bnz : http://imgur.com/a/Md6dE [2017-04-05 13:35:38] aethlios : ltc ready for break out........... [2017-04-05 13:35:47] bnz : every red is followed by more green [2017-04-05 13:36:10] frog : bnz: lol [2017-04-05 13:36:43] bnz : :) maybe you don't talk about such quick timeframes [2017-04-05 13:38:33] binacoin : aethlios: upward or download [2017-04-05 13:38:43] aethlios : up up up. [2017-04-05 13:39:36] aethlios : don't trade based on what people comment on the chat. [2017-04-05 13:39:47] frog : there's some resistance just below 1030 on finex [2017-04-05 13:39:59] 123abc : ltc/btc new high on btce [2017-04-05 13:40:08] aethlios : How much of the hashing power is signaling CSV support? NEW! About 2101 GH/s, or 72.2% of the network (361 out of the last 500 blocks). How much of the hashing power is signaling SegWit support? NEW! About 2043 GH/s, or 70.2% of the network (351 out of the last 500 blocks). [2017-04-05 13:40:53] sleger : 9.2$, very close to someone's stop at 10.... [2017-04-05 13:40:59] 123abc : aethlios: needs to keep it up for 2 weeks above 75% [2017-04-05 13:41:13] KingTuna : LTC looking money [2017-04-05 13:41:37] aethlios : https://twitter.com/www_bw_com/status/849576920115064832 BW pool must be signaling SW next few hours-days, they have 6%. [2017-04-05 13:42:07] 123abc : just needs BW.com to signal [2017-04-05 13:43:59] frog : @aethlios so fork will be soon? [2017-04-05 13:44:06] 123abc : they have 8% right now [2017-04-05 13:44:26] aethlios : frog: fork for ltc?? no fork for ltc. [2017-04-05 13:44:40] frog : segwit? [2017-04-05 13:45:23] aethlios : it is a soft fork, those who won't update can keep using ltc with not using SW [2017-04-05 13:45:48] aethlios : won't be two ltc [2017-04-05 13:47:19] frog : yes [2017-04-05 13:49:43] frog : so should be priced in already as everyone knows will be happening? [2017-04-05 13:51:51] laisee : aethlios: from where do you retrieve stats on SW signalling by miners? [2017-04-05 13:52:04] 123abc : frog: currently being priced in. LTC/USD on btce hitting new high [2017-04-05 13:52:31] aethlios : laisee: https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools [2017-04-05 13:52:55] 123abc : a lot of BTC going into LTC [2017-04-05 13:53:05] laisee : y? [2017-04-05 13:54:10] laisee : dnt see what exactly SW adds to LTC - given its low volumes, faster block times and excess capacity? [2017-04-05 13:54:16] frog : looks like could shoot up Mr Lee said he expects $14 [2017-04-05 13:56:15] hmmmYea : frog: this will be an amazing short immediately after sw activates [2017-04-05 13:56:44] 123abc : laisee: when BTC gets segwit then LTC and BTC will work together seamlessly [2017-04-05 13:56:56] 123abc : together they will achieve great things [2017-04-05 13:57:12] startChat : with segwit on BTC why do you need LTC? [2017-04-05 13:57:15] frog : hmmmYea: you think segwit is overhyped? [2017-04-05 13:57:15] laisee : 123abc: they are different chains, no? [2017-04-05 13:57:42] startChat : laisee: but with malleablity fix atomic swaps between chains can be instant [2017-04-05 13:57:54] 123abc : laisee: https://segwit.org/my-vision-for-segwit-and-lightning-networks-on-litecoin-and-bitcoin-cf95a7ab656b [2017-04-05 13:57:55] JerryBuss : /price [2017-04-05 13:57:56] 123abc : read that [2017-04-05 13:57:57] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1126.49 (-0.03%) Bitfinex : 1126.70 (0.16%) The Woodchipper : 1124.06 (0.09%) itBit : 1126.93 (-0.12%) Kraken : 1125.51 (-0.09%) GDAX : 1127.95 (-0.36%) SLQ : 43 mins``` [2017-04-05 13:58:30] laisee : startChat: Atomic swaps have been promised for years, still no-one mentioned malleabiity as issue until SW got stuck ... [2017-04-05 13:58:39] hmmmYea : frog: i just think all the people who have bought ltc bc they think they have some great insight that sw is coming will want to sell when it becomes official [2017-04-05 13:58:43] 123abc : Charlie Lee Tips Litecoin Price To Reach $14 On SegWit Activation [2017-04-05 13:59:09] laisee : 123abc: LOL. there are suckers born every 10 mins .... [2017-04-05 13:59:40] laisee : SW adds nothing of value to LTC, since no-one uses LTC anyway. [2017-04-05 13:59:54] hmmmYea : frog: and everyone who follows ltc and cares about litecoin already knows its coming... and has already bought if they wanted to... so there wont be enough new buys to buy the coins from all the fast money [2017-04-05 14:00:10] Nutella : its already doiubled and more [2017-04-05 14:00:11] hmmmYea : follows ltc and cares about SEGWIT* [2017-04-05 14:00:13] Nutella : don't be greedy [2017-04-05 14:00:16] laisee : PnD, in other words [2017-04-05 14:00:36] frog : segwit is getting ltc and mr Lee good publicity [2017-04-05 14:00:53] Nutella : in article Lee says : I say $14 cos at $8 segwit was at 60% [2017-04-05 14:01:01] laisee : hahaha ... he is a good marketer, then [2017-04-05 14:01:02] Nutella : really stupid math [2017-04-05 14:01:12] hmmmYea : laisee: pump and dump implies a conspiracy... i just think it is how markets work under certain conditions [2017-04-05 14:01:17] Ahhere : Segwit FTW. Guise its going up dont miss the easiest trade of the year [2017-04-05 14:01:27] Ahhere : already made 4k ltc on this trade [2017-04-05 14:01:33] laisee : Going UP and then DOWN ... [2017-04-05 14:01:42] Ahhere : nah [2017-04-05 14:01:48] Ahhere : litecoin was the last alt to pump [2017-04-05 14:01:50] frog : Nutella: yes the magic formula for predicting future price, nobel prize coming for Mr Lee [2017-04-05 14:01:54] Ahhere : the last main one [2017-04-05 14:02:08] Ahhere : eth still in 40s dash still above 50 (not that I follow it) [2017-04-05 14:02:18] Ahhere : ltc will beat $20 at very leas [2017-04-05 14:02:21] Ahhere : t [2017-04-05 14:02:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 350000 @ 0.00003309 [2017-04-05 14:02:58] Ahhere : I could close today for 4k litecoin profit on my ltcusd. (NOT LTCBTC!!) but I'm not [2017-04-05 14:03:18] Nutella : dash has roger ver money behind it [2017-04-05 14:03:38] Ahhere : yeah dash has not much supply too so its easy to pump [2017-04-05 14:03:40] Nutella : ETH is bitcoin nemesis, already go up when BTC in trouble [2017-04-05 14:03:44] Nutella : so u can't compare [2017-04-05 14:03:57] Ahhere : look what ltc is doing despite the 2 year bagholders all cashing out [2017-04-05 14:04:00] laisee : well done @Ahhere. Careful to avoid the d.u.m.p when BTC forks [2017-04-05 14:04:05] Nutella : it's gonna go up cos others went up...yeah bet ur money on that [2017-04-05 14:04:25] Ahhere : are we farking forking now? @laisee [2017-04-05 14:04:40] laisee : Fork by Xmas [2017-04-05 14:04:48] Ahhere : for forks sake. FARK! [2017-04-05 14:04:54] Ahhere : CONFIRMED?? [2017-04-05 14:05:27] laisee : Yes. Roger Ver has sent the memo and it will happen. oh, yes. [2017-04-05 14:05:44] Nutella : LTC asymmetric bet here , small upside big downside [2017-04-05 14:06:19] frog : nothing happen with btc no-one ever agree and every 5 minutes new proposal [2017-04-05 14:06:27] laisee : yeah, if LTC fails does anyone care - except for 200 bag holders? [2017-04-05 14:07:15] frog : a bit of actual buying on finex free run up is over [2017-04-05 14:09:02] MikeHunt : the future will be decided perhaps in May [2017-04-05 14:09:08] MikeHunt : next major btc meeting [2017-04-05 14:09:18] MikeHunt : succesful = btc pump and alt dump [2017-04-05 14:09:22] MikeHunt : fail = opposite [2017-04-05 14:12:50] frog : looks like dump incoming [2017-04-05 14:13:29] stf28 : ltc on gox ? [2017-04-05 14:13:43] MikeHunt : frog: LTC ? [2017-04-05 14:15:06] frog : btc but not sure, depth seemed to get pulled [2017-04-05 14:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.008480 [2017-04-05 14:16:39] LetsTP : guys is there any way to trade with a demo account ? I just want to make an idea how to calculate margins required and p/l-s based on leverages [2017-04-05 14:16:54] BitMEX_Sam : LetsTP: Yeah, see https://testnet.bitmex.com/ [2017-04-05 14:17:28] LetsTP : thank you ! [2017-04-05 14:23:17] frog : GL guys I gotta sleep. hopefully not liquidated when I wake up [2017-04-05 14:23:28] MikeHunt : frog: use stop [2017-04-05 14:25:01] frog : MikeHunt: good idea i'll use for 50% then I will sleep better, market looks volatile [2017-04-05 14:31:25] MikeHunt : frog: you can also use app on phone to alert you [2017-04-05 14:38:44] aguia7 : /fork [2017-04-05 14:38:45] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 980.01 (-2.84%) Bitfinex BCU : 135.00 (-1.47%) SLQ : 10 hours, 9 mins``` [2017-04-05 14:41:27] JerryBuss : /price [2017-04-05 14:41:31] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1125.61 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1128.60 (0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1128.00 (0.35%) itBit : 1127.00 (0.01%) Kraken : 1129.50 (0.35%) GDAX : 1127.96 (0.00%) SLQ : 43 mins``` [2017-04-05 14:52:02] aethlios : ltc usd volumes (real) were more then 100% the market cap so coin changes owners kast days. also ltc keeps strong which means more room to go higher. [2017-04-05 14:57:46] L9 : /sentinent [2017-04-05 14:57:52] L9 : /sentiment [2017-04-05 14:57:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 25.46 / 74.54 Daily : 52.84 / 47.16 Weekly : 48.35 / 51.65 Monthly : 51.66 / 48.34``` [2017-04-05 15:01:05] MikeHunt : btc still seems to be on course for 1200 [2017-04-05 15:03:31] aguia7 : i believe, BTC, is most likely a term-short. Re-test 1110 [2017-04-05 15:04:42] MikeHunt : 1100 would create a nice double bottom [2017-04-05 15:04:47] aguia7 : http://www.tradingview.com/x/l956ZFnR [2017-04-05 15:04:48] MikeHunt : 1100* [2017-04-05 15:04:56] aguia7 : yes, to [2017-04-05 15:05:03] MikeHunt : 1110* [2017-04-05 15:07:29] Poo : Sentiment is bullish? [2017-04-05 15:08:30] aguia7 : yes, sentiment yes. [2017-04-05 15:08:56] aguia7 : Poo: But, I'm not trusting too much, laughter. [2017-04-05 15:09:02] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: fyi: still same issues with active orders. amended orders neber get updated. Really never. [2017-04-05 15:09:11] wurstgelee : Still shows old value [2017-04-05 15:09:21] BitMEX_Sam : I've seen this happen once or twice, but it's very rare [2017-04-05 15:09:27] BitMEX_Sam : Switching panel tabs usually fixes it [2017-04-05 15:09:39] wurstgelee : Always happens. And not only for me [2017-04-05 15:09:51] wurstgelee : always happens for tetsuo tpo for example [2017-04-05 15:09:57] wurstgelee : This is a bug [2017-04-05 15:10:25] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: if u have to swith tabs to force an update, this sure sounds like a bug? [2017-04-05 15:10:29] BitMEX_Sam : Always happens? As in, for every order, every time? [2017-04-05 15:10:33] wurstgelee : - [2017-04-05 15:10:35] BitMEX_Sam : I'm trying to track it down, did you see me say that it wasn't a bug? [2017-04-05 15:10:38] wurstgelee : Yes. So far [2017-04-05 15:10:43] wurstgelee : No [2017-04-05 15:10:54] wurstgelee : I was reassuring myself [2017-04-05 15:10:56] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-04-05 15:11:49] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: same happens with orders. Always shows orders ad partiaöly filled while they are long filled. [2017-04-05 15:12:00] wurstgelee : *as partially [2017-04-05 15:12:02] BitMEX_Sam : Does it clear up if you switch tabs on the panel? [2017-04-05 15:12:13] wurstgelee : Ill check this at home [2017-04-05 15:12:16] wurstgelee : mobile atm [2017-04-05 15:12:26] BitMEX_Sam : Ok - let me know [2017-04-05 15:12:33] BitMEX_Sam : That'll help me narrow down which part of the app is causing the issue. [2017-04-05 15:12:42] wurstgelee : Give me an hour or two and ill report back [2017-04-05 15:12:43] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-04-05 15:12:48] BitMEX_Sam : nw, I'm here all day