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[2015-04-14 23:55:05] BitMEX_Arthur : short
[2015-04-14 23:55:05] BitMEX_Arthur : sorry
[2015-04-15 00:26:32] gaoMex : goat: Are you the same goat in bitcointalk?
[2015-04-15 02:07:59] goat : gaoMex: no
[2015-04-15 05:29:51] germanjew : any updates on the potential cds/eds instruments?
[2015-04-15 05:30:17] BitMEX_Arthur : germanjew: In development, we will be making some improvements to `BVOL` first
[2015-04-15 05:30:29] BitMEX_Arthur : and possibly listing a DASH/XBT futures contract
[2015-04-15 05:31:09] germanjew : thanks :)
[2015-04-15 09:52:22] mlg5867 : if you're considering DASH may want to consider ETH, i think it's going to launch with a $50m+ market cap
[2015-04-15 09:56:55] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah whenever they get around to launching
[2015-04-15 09:56:57] BitMEX_Arthur : we will def consider
[2015-04-15 10:02:09] VanCleef : Hello
[2015-04-15 10:02:21] BitMEX_Arthur : VanCleef: Welcome
[2015-04-15 10:02:37] VanCleef : Thanks Arthur
[2015-04-15 10:03:01] VanCleef : how can i use a futures contract on bitmex to hedge my risk as a bitcoin remittance company?
[2015-04-15 10:03:36] BitMEX_Arthur : Do you hold Bitcoin for a period of time before you sell on a spot market?
[2015-04-15 10:03:39] VanCleef : i dont quite get why i would use a futures contract instead of just doing market sells to lock in my fiat profits
[2015-04-15 10:04:16] BitMEX_Arthur : What currency pairs are you using Bitcoin to move between?
[2015-04-15 10:04:47] VanCleef : usually i like to flush my bitcoin straight away for usd to lock in my 1% profit
[2015-04-15 10:05:36] VanCleef : but im curious if futures contract is better for me?
[2015-04-15 10:06:16] BitMEX_Arthur : From what country to what country are you remitting fiat money?
[2015-04-15 10:06:23] BitMEX_Arthur : generally
[2015-04-15 10:07:37] VanCleef : i can cash out my bitcoin on a local exchange where i love, usually at 1% profit, within a day
[2015-04-15 10:07:46] VanCleef : live*
[2015-04-15 10:08:27] BitMEX_Arthur : Between the time you buy Bitcoin in country A and you cash out in country B how long are you holding Bitcoin?
[2015-04-15 10:08:37] BitMEX_Arthur : in terms of time?
[2015-04-15 10:09:42] VanCleef : usually customer will buy the bitcoin, remit to me at my price, which is usually at 1% below market price, then i just sell that bitcoin to an exchange
[2015-04-15 10:09:50] VanCleef : so maybe holding bitcoin for like an hour?
[2015-04-15 10:10:02] VanCleef : usually less
[2015-04-15 10:10:52] BitMEX_Arthur : right now the price volatility hasn't been that great, but when Bitcoin is really moving you could lose 1% within that hour time frame
[2015-04-15 10:11:11] BitMEX_Arthur : we have a futures contract `XBU24H` that expires every 24hours so it tracks spot very closely
[2015-04-15 10:11:38] VanCleef : so should i open a long or open a short to hedge?
[2015-04-15 10:11:51] BitMEX_Arthur : You can lock in the USD price for a couple hours by selling the futures contract, then buy them back once you cash out on your local exchange
[2015-04-15 10:12:24] BitMEX_Arthur : the fees are very cheap for this contract 0.03%
[2015-04-15 10:13:25] VanCleef : hmm ok so i would need a foat on bitmex to do this?
[2015-04-15 10:13:30] VanCleef : float
[2015-04-15 10:14:02] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes a small float on BitMEX to manage your hedging
[2015-04-15 10:22:22] BitMEX_Arthur : VanCleef: Any other questions?
[2015-04-15 23:20:39] BitMEX_Arthur : Morning traders
[2015-04-16 23:18:56] BitMEX_Arthur : Aloha
[2015-04-17 01:38:23] goat : what up
[2015-04-17 01:38:44] BitMEX_Arthur : are you going to the NY conference?
[2015-04-17 08:51:03] BitWise : This OKC thing might get you some new customers
[2015-04-17 08:51:20] BitMEX_Arthur : Yeah they could be screwed
[2015-04-17 08:51:26] BitMEX_Arthur : depending on if anyone got their money out who was up
[2015-04-17 08:52:08] BitWise : We still got some funds in, but I think that will be released
[2015-04-17 08:52:42] BitWise : Well, lets hope this will turn up the volume
[2015-04-17 08:52:50] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2015-04-17 08:52:50] BitMEX_Arthur : :)
[2015-04-17 08:53:36] BitWise : As I said on tv, this is the better exchange for futures, for sure
[2015-04-17 08:54:01] BitMEX_Arthur : can you share a link to that clip
[2015-04-17 08:54:40] BitWise : Euh, I don't know how, but will try
[2015-04-17 08:54:50] BitMEX_Arthur : thanks
[2015-04-17 08:57:33] BitWise : Should i take a screenshot or something?
[2015-04-17 08:58:01] BitMEX_Arthur : Did you record your tv interview?
[2015-04-17 08:58:23] BitWise : No, but it still on
[2015-04-17 08:58:42] BitWise : not sure how to do that
[2015-04-17 08:58:50] BitMEX_Arthur : what's the tv channel
[2015-04-17 08:58:53] BitMEX_Arthur : or online channel
[2015-04-17 08:59:45] BitWise : online
[2015-04-17 09:00:42] BitWise : It's not tv like in television ;-)
[2015-04-17 09:00:57] BitWise : it's tv like trading view
[2015-04-17 09:01:17] BitMEX_Arthur : ah
[2015-04-17 09:01:17] BitMEX_Arthur : ok
[2015-04-17 09:01:28] BitMEX_Arthur : now it all makes sense
[2015-04-17 09:04:57] BitWise : I took a clip of it btw, how can i post it?
[2015-04-17 09:08:29] BitWise : Would you like exposure on a dutch (financial) news channel?
[2015-04-17 09:08:51] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes how can we make that happen
[2015-04-17 09:09:05] BitMEX_Arthur : Send the clip to Arthur@BitMEX.com
[2015-04-17 09:09:20] BitWise : The ceo is my neighbour
[2015-04-17 09:09:27] BitMEX_Arthur : Haha
[2015-04-17 09:09:56] BitWise : I could ask, if you have some real news
[2015-04-17 09:11:36] BitMEX_Arthur : Ill keep that in mind when I feel we have something worthy
[2015-04-17 09:26:00] BitWise : Mail send
[2015-04-17 11:51:30] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: im not sure if im going to the ny conference (were you asking me)?
[2015-04-17 11:51:36] goat : and which one? inside bitcoins?
[2015-04-17 11:51:42] goat : there are a bunch coming up i think
[2015-04-17 11:52:02] goat : i wanted to go see the OTC thing at coinsetter last night but was working out when they sent the reminder email
[2015-04-17 17:03:41] BitMEX_Sam : goat: Yeah, Arthur will be at Inside Bitcoins in NY in just a few weeks
[2015-04-17 17:03:47] BitMEX_Sam : I'll be at the one in Chicago in July
[2015-04-17 18:17:43] goat : Nice, I would like to head to one... i have been trying to make summer plans the last few weeks but haven't finalized anything yet
[2015-04-17 22:21:39] VanCleef : hi BitMex_Arthur are you around?
[2015-04-17 22:21:39] VanCleef : anyone have a link to the blog post bitmex put out about trading on localbitcoin and using bitmex to hedge...or something
[2015-04-17 22:24:35] BitMEX_Sam : Looks like the IRC bot got a little backed up, these are older messages.
[2015-04-17 22:24:52] BitMEX_Sam : VanCleef: You might be thinking of https://blog.bitmex.com/bitmex-for-commercial-hedgers/ or https://blog.bitmex.com/bitmex-hosts-bitcoin-arbitrage-webinar/
[2015-04-17 23:33:00] BitMEX_Arthur : VanCleef: that was in our newsletter, what is your email address and I can fwd to you
[2015-04-18 02:18:13] uiop : <BitMEX_Chat> (joequant): https://bitquant.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/magic-formula-for-xbt-and-xbu-futures/
[2015-04-18 02:19:06] uiop : also you could just do some multivariate regression with settlement price, and whatever other vars you want
[2015-04-18 02:19:40] uiop : or replace settlement price with tob or whatever
[2015-04-18 02:19:54] BitMEX_Arthur : or monte carlo simulation
[2015-04-18 02:20:06] BitMEX_Arthur : and see if the gamma premium is zero pnl expected value
[2015-04-18 02:20:11] BitMEX_Arthur : over the range of possibilities
[2015-04-18 02:20:15] uiop : a closed form solution seems too good to be true
[2015-04-18 02:21:19] uiop : BitMEX_Arthur: oh cool, i'll have googlemachine gamma premium pnl expectation...
[2015-04-18 02:21:28] uiop : *have to goo...
[2015-04-18 02:21:45] BitMEX_Arthur : check out the new excel plugin
[2015-04-18 02:22:05] BitMEX_Arthur : real time pricing
[2015-04-18 02:22:08] BitMEX_Arthur : into spreadsheets
[2015-04-18 02:22:10] BitMEX_Arthur : pretty bad ass
[2015-04-18 02:22:22] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/excelPlugin
[2015-04-18 02:22:24] uiop : o nice
[2015-04-18 02:23:00] uiop : o rad, source and everything
[2015-04-18 02:23:18] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah you can compile yourself if you want or just dl the .xll file
[2015-04-18 02:24:03] uiop : sounds like a perfect code example of an excel plugin that does that with xyz data too
[2015-04-18 02:25:42] uiop : <BitMEX_Chat> (joequant): https://bitquant.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/magic-formula-for-xbt-and-xbu-futures/
[2015-04-18 02:26:00] uiop : o actually youre saying more than i picked up on at first
[2015-04-18 02:26:05] uiop : will checkit
[2015-04-18 09:05:08] kasman5 : That excel file seems to load with a screen full of random characters for me. Anyone got any ideas?
[2015-04-18 10:33:32] BitMEX_Arthur : make sure you have the right file one is for 32-bit one is for 64-bit
[2015-04-18 12:17:36] kasman5 : I realised that :/
[2015-04-18 12:20:26] kasman5 : the example pricing spreadsheet that accompanies the excel add-in. That's not how the excel add-in should look straight away, you actually have to build that yourself?
[2015-04-18 13:13:36] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes you have to build something like that yourself, you can take that and modify
[2015-04-18 13:13:54] BitMEX_Arthur : but the calculations require real time prices from BitMEX so that's where the excel plugin is useful
[2015-04-18 13:26:39] kasman5 : cool, thanks
[2015-04-19 16:58:04] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: whats up man, im going to shoot you an e-mail if thats cool
[2015-04-19 17:03:34] goat : ok i just sent it to info@
[2015-04-19 22:49:04] BitMEX_Arthur : got it
[2015-04-21 00:07:09] BitMEX_Arthur : morning traders, we will be re listing a longer dated XBT contract this friday
[2015-04-21 00:07:15] BitMEX_Arthur : `XBTM15`
[2015-04-21 00:07:20] BitMEX_Arthur : giddy up
[2015-04-21 00:40:39] goat : and here btc goes!
[2015-04-21 00:40:49] goat : 227 looks good for a short again
[2015-04-21 00:41:01] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah
[2015-04-21 00:43:41] goat : gotta wait for bfx data to refresh, the bfx stats page still says almost 28k btc swaps in use
[2015-04-21 00:44:09] goat : if that number doesn't go down i will probably take a much smaller short around 227
[2015-04-21 00:53:03] goat : https://twitter.com/grassfedgoat
[2015-04-21 00:53:17] goat : im putting some of my trades on there, not any scalps though
[2015-04-21 00:54:11] goat : thanks for the follow :D
[2015-04-21 00:54:25] BitMEX_Arthur : grazzin the blockchain lol
[2015-04-21 00:54:39] goat : haha i had to come up with something creative
[2015-04-21 00:54:46] goat : so i tend to make everything goat related
[2015-04-21 00:55:07] goat : ie: "i have to be careful not to fat hoof during times of extra volatility"
[2015-04-21 00:59:39] goat : im gonna take a look through the newsletter tonight, excited to see whats in this one
[2015-04-21 01:00:05] goat : like i said before man (I write them for my own company), newsletters that are constant and effective are no easy task
[2015-04-21 01:00:15] goat : you do a great job with them
[2015-04-21 01:01:15] BitMEX_Arthur : thanks
[2015-04-21 01:02:53] goat : supposedly there is some rumor of a coinbase announcement tomorrow... not sure what it might be about though
[2015-04-21 01:03:11] goat : i haven't heard anything, zoinky said it had something to do with their exchange though
[2015-04-21 01:03:53] BitMEX_Arthur : as we offer more products should be more interesting trading ideas to
[2015-04-21 01:03:56] BitMEX_Arthur : write about
[2015-04-21 01:06:35] goat : yeah, definitely
[2015-04-21 01:06:56] goat : how long are you in NYC for?
[2015-04-21 01:07:11] goat : let me know if you need any restaurant recommendations or anything like that
[2015-04-21 01:07:57] BitMEX_Arthur : i'm in town for a week
[2015-04-21 01:08:01] BitMEX_Arthur : then going home to buffalo for a bit
[2015-04-21 01:08:07] BitMEX_Arthur : then back to hong kong
[2015-04-21 01:08:35] goat : ahh nice, that should be relaxing then
[2015-04-21 01:09:39] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah hopefully it's warm
[2015-04-21 01:09:46] BitMEX_Arthur : i can't take any of that polar vortex shit
[2015-04-21 01:10:05] goat : definitely will be, hopefully the cherry tree blossoms are still open in central park
[2015-04-21 01:10:17] goat : the park is looking absolutely amazing this last week
[2015-04-21 01:11:11] BitMEX_Arthur : awesome
[2015-04-21 01:11:26] BitMEX_Arthur : i was in nyc last march was so cold, couldn't wait to get back to asia
[2015-04-21 01:11:32] BitMEX_Arthur : i like it cold when i'm skiing that's about it
[2015-04-21 01:11:39] goat : yeah, last year was rough
[2015-04-21 01:11:59] goat : the only reason i like the cold is because it forces me to stay inside and get work done
[2015-04-21 01:12:13] goat : so i have like 18 hour work days in the winter and i cut them shorter when its nice out
[2015-04-21 01:13:27] goat : at least it shouldn't frost anymore at night, my gf and I are doing some guerilla gardening in the park this yea
[2015-04-21 01:13:35] goat : we should be planting the tomatoes next weekend
[2015-04-21 01:13:50] BitMEX_Arthur : that's cool
[2015-04-21 01:14:03] goat : it should be fun
[2015-04-21 01:14:22] goat : we found a sick clearing right near a stream so they have water
[2015-04-21 01:14:56] BitMEX_Arthur : they have urban gardening on rooftops here that's about it
[2015-04-21 01:15:09] goat : thats ideal though haha
[2015-04-21 01:15:22] goat : much more sunlight, and helps keep the building cooler
[2015-04-21 01:16:31] goat : growing your own food is so efficient its redic
[2015-04-21 01:17:08] goat : or even going to farmers markets if you can't grow it
[2015-04-21 01:27:55] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah not much of that culture here in hk
[2015-04-21 01:28:02] BitMEX_Arthur : everything is imported and very expensive
[2015-04-21 01:28:12] BitMEX_Arthur : or u go to the wet market which is pretty good
[2015-04-21 01:35:12] goat : im sure its less prevalent, but you can still find opportunities for fresh food at markets if you look hard enough
[2015-04-21 01:35:41] goat : im sure its more expensive in HK, but in NYC i just can't bring myself to pay more money for inferior quality at the supermarket
[2015-04-21 04:41:04] awkirk : Hey Arthur, why is there a Jun Sept Calendar Spread and not an April/May Calendar spread?
[2015-04-21 06:13:02] BitMEX_Arthur : awkirk: we are working on a more intuitive display for calendar spreads
[2015-04-21 06:13:12] BitMEX_Arthur : too many users don't understand them so they don't trade them
[2015-04-21 06:34:48] awkirk : ok - let me know how it goes with the remodelling. Would like to have played the April/May roll this month.
[2015-04-22 00:09:39] goat : 227 crushed
[2015-04-22 00:11:12] goat : full retrace of the april 13 dump, looking to short around 237 if bulls show weakness, otherwise 243 or 256 as next shorting targets
[2015-04-22 00:18:52] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah still sitting on the sidelines here
[2015-04-22 00:39:40] goat : i only had a small long open for today's move, better than nothing though
[2015-04-22 00:39:59] goat : i want to see some of these btc swaps go down on bfx though before im comfortable taking a larger short
[2015-04-22 14:27:50] trading : hi support
[2015-04-22 14:27:58] trading : the api is very unstable
[2015-04-22 14:36:10] cloud : veryyy
[2015-04-22 14:37:38] BitMEX_Sam : We were having some network issues, it should be resolved now
[2015-04-22 15:26:42] Tone : I got a question, is there a way to display your positions in a different order, i have two issues with current set up
[2015-04-22 15:27:11] Tone : I have traded the XBU24H like once months ago and now it is always first on the list with without ever having positions
[2015-04-22 15:27:26] BitMEX_Arthur : and how would you like it set up?
[2015-04-22 15:27:59] Tone : the other issue is that i have positions in 3 different contracts but one of the is all the way at the end so i have to scroll to see it
[2015-04-22 15:28:14] Tone : the ability to hide rows with no positions
[2015-04-22 15:28:34] BitMEX_Arthur : or would you rather they were sorted differently?
[2015-04-22 15:29:44] Tone : sorting would be fine, for me it would be in Ascending order of expirty where Current Qty is > 0
[2015-04-22 15:30:09] Tone : abs(CurrentQty) > 0 :)
[2015-04-22 15:30:21] BitMEX_Arthur : k will take that under advisement
[2015-04-22 16:26:02] Tone : thanks Arthur
[2015-04-23 12:19:35] cloud : Hey guys I was wondering what time withdrawls go through for Pacific time US?
[2015-04-23 12:20:42] BitMEX_Arthur : cloud: Withdrawals are processed every day at 12:00 GMT, PST is GMT - 7, so 5am your time
[2015-04-23 12:21:21] cloud : Had one initiated yesterday, hasnt gone through yet
[2015-04-23 12:21:37] BitMEX_Arthur : Let me check
[2015-04-23 12:22:56] BitMEX_Arthur : We are processing that now, you submitted your withdrawal request after the April 22nd deadline, so it is being processed today, should be done shortly
[2015-04-23 12:23:36] cloud : BitMEX_Arthur: Thanks good sir.
[2015-04-23 12:32:14] awkirk : Hey Arthur, I have a stupid question. The .XBT30M index is that TWAP of last prices or mid prices?
[2015-04-23 12:33:49] BitMEX_Arthur : last prices
[2015-04-23 12:52:47] cengelandreasen : The QR code generator for deposits seems messed up. I wasn't able to scan just now, but then manually generated the code and it scanned right away.
[2015-04-23 12:57:02] cengelandreasen : The one i generated from here that scanned fine: https://www.the-qrcode-generator.com/ , the ink is a lot less clustered, maybe that's why, sidebyside: http://prntscr.com/6x7nfx
[2015-04-23 13:06:47] cengelandreasen : Yea I've tried 2 different wallets and both can't scan the QR that is generated on Deposit page
[2015-04-23 14:11:07] BitMEX_Sam : Really.
[2015-04-23 14:11:20] BitMEX_Sam : I've never heard from anyone that they were having problems, cengelandreasen
[2015-04-23 14:11:39] BitMEX_Sam : Were you able to get it to work with another wallet app or scanner? These QR codes are pretty standard
[2015-04-23 14:12:22] BitMEX_Sam : Anyway we use a lot of error checking which is why it looks more cluttered. I'll see what I can do to make it simpler. Thanks a lot for letting us know
[2015-04-23 14:29:20] cengelandreasen : i used Mycelium and Xapo
[2015-04-23 14:29:31] cengelandreasen : both could not scan your QR code, but when i took the addie and generated my own it worked fine
[2015-04-23 14:33:01] cengelandreasen : Xapo just doesn't register it all, Mycelium returns the error " Unrecognized format"
[2015-04-23 14:34:59] cengelandreasen : QR codes from anywhere else work fine with them too
[2015-04-23 15:03:16] BitMEX_Sam : Okay. I'll take a look at it
[2015-04-23 15:35:55] BitMEX_Sam : cengelandreasen: If you go back to the deposit page, you should see it fixed
[2015-04-23 15:36:02] BitMEX_Sam : There was a QR code formatting error - thanks for helping me catch it
[2015-04-23 15:36:11] BitMEX_Sam : I've tested with Mycelium and it's working.
[2015-04-23 15:38:23] cengelandreasen : Yep works fine now
[2015-04-23 15:38:36] BitMEX_Sam : Great :) Thanks for bearing with us
[2015-04-23 15:40:00] cengelandreasen : I'm using the API to code an IRC bot to manage account activities directly from text client. Probably nobody but me will get use of it but it's a way i am exploring your system :)
[2015-04-23 15:40:50] BitMEX_Sam : Oh, that's great
[2015-04-23 15:41:11] BitMEX_Sam : We have a very basic chatbot on Freenode #bitmex. Different thing of course
[2015-04-23 15:41:20] BitMEX_Sam : If you have any questions about the API feel free to email me at sam@bitmex.com
[2015-04-23 15:43:08] cengelandreasen : It's quite simple and self explanatory but if I find an error I will alert you
[2015-04-23 15:44:05] cengelandreasen : It's more a personal project so I can just use my bot to manage trades and maybe get some inspiration for a bigger project
[2015-04-23 15:46:12] cengelandreasen : Seems there's some good opportunities to lead on here if there's a lagged reaction to a pump, do you have historical tick data in csv on the XBU24H contract (or any for that matter?)
[2015-04-23 15:46:53] cengelandreasen : I feel like if there's a solid lag which allows for opportunity, then the downside of the bad spread can be easily tolerated for this benefit
[2015-04-23 15:47:03] BitMEX_Sam : Sure, and I think that opportunity does exist
[2015-04-23 15:47:11] cengelandreasen : Can i verify this with some historical data ?
[2015-04-23 15:47:13] BitMEX_Sam : We don't have CSV data but you can grab all of it in JSON from the API and convert it
[2015-04-23 15:47:19] cengelandreasen : yea
[2015-04-23 15:47:23] cengelandreasen : I'll just do that then :) cool
[2015-04-23 15:47:45] BitMEX_Sam : We also have data in bitcoincharts format available at https://www.bitmex.com/api/bitcoincharts/
[2015-04-23 15:48:06] BitMEX_Sam : e.g. https://www.bitmex.com/api/bitcoincharts/XBU24H/trades
[2015-04-23 15:48:13] BitMEX_Sam : Not as flexible but if you already read that format it can be nice
[2015-04-23 15:49:40] BitMEX_Sam : Otherwise try the `quote` endpoint for bucketed bid/ask and price. See e.g. https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/quote/bucketed?binSize=5m&symbol=XBU24H&count=500&reverse=true
[2015-04-23 15:50:16] BitMEX_Sam : Max row count per call is 500 but you can modify the `start` param and make multiple calls
[2015-04-23 15:51:18] cengelandreasen : lowest binSize interval is 1m ?
[2015-04-23 15:51:58] cengelandreasen : or, "shortest" interval i guess i should say
[2015-04-23 15:52:24] trading : hi
[2015-04-23 15:52:34] trading : anything changed in the API
[2015-04-23 15:53:17] BitMEX_Sam : cengelandreasen: Yes, 1m is the shortest
[2015-04-23 15:53:25] BitMEX_Sam : trading: Just bugfixes, are you seeing a change in behavior?
[2015-04-23 15:53:34] trading : cant create new order
[2015-04-23 15:53:40] trading : HTTP error
[2015-04-23 15:54:01] cengelandreasen : Sam, tick data would be optimal to see the lag, which could be <1m.
[2015-04-23 15:54:32] BitMEX_Sam : cengelandreasen: You can get individual trades from `/trade`
[2015-04-23 15:54:47] cengelandreasen : Ah that could be a viable substitute
[2015-04-23 15:55:30] BitMEX_Sam : trading: I see your errors
[2015-04-23 15:55:39] BitMEX_Sam : We made an adjustment to the api key scheme to accept signatures on formencoded data
[2015-04-23 15:55:46] BitMEX_Sam : should not have affected you. Investigating
[2015-04-23 15:57:01] cengelandreasen : also FYI, doc says 30s is valid binSize too, but this doesn't work since 1m as you say is the shortest
[2015-04-23 15:57:58] BitMEX_Sam : cengelandreasen: Ah thanks. We used to support 30s in an earlier version, docs need cleanup
[2015-04-23 16:09:22] trading : Sam, any luck?
[2015-04-23 16:10:31] cengelandreasen : and for /trade/, startTime, endTime i can only specify a date down to day level, or whats the lowest time unit? DDMM gets me 200 but still null response.. Other standard ones get me 400'd
[2015-04-23 16:11:29] BitMEX_Sam : trading: Did you get my email?
[2015-04-23 16:11:45] BitMEX_Sam : cengelandreasen: They are ISO dates
[2015-04-23 16:12:12] trading : Yes, sent a few orders. Still the same
[2015-04-23 16:17:30] cengelandreasen : Sam, got it
[2015-04-23 16:18:49] BitMEX_Sam : trading: Try once more, please
[2015-04-23 16:21:00] BitMEX_Sam : Looks like it's working - apologies for the inconvenience. We will add this to our CI so it can't happen again.
[2015-04-23 16:25:42] cengelandreasen : Sam, does "side" (/trade/) reference the side that was filled, or the side that did the filling?
[2015-04-23 16:35:22] BitMEX_Sam : cengelandreasen: It's the side that did the filling. So if a sell order is in place and somebody submits a buy order that matches against it, the `side` will be `Buy`
[2015-04-23 16:35:35] cengelandreasen : ty
[2015-04-23 16:35:38] BitMEX_Sam : So you should expect to see `Buy` prices higher than `Sell` prices in a given time period as users are crossing the spread
[2015-04-23 16:47:25] Rizky : yo just heads up
[2015-04-23 16:47:46] Rizky : looks like the sub-links under Hedger Fee Schedule not working
[2015-04-23 16:47:50] Rizky : here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-04-23 16:48:18] BitMEX_Sam : Rizky: Ah thanks. The link IDs changed. I'll fix it
[2015-04-23 18:08:40] Tone : hey guys, question
[2015-04-23 18:09:06] Tone : why is XBUJ15 gone from the drop down of maturities?
[2015-04-23 18:09:41] Tone : it shows up when you click on the contract in your positions box but not if you are looking for it in the drop down from the start
[2015-04-23 19:31:51] BitMEX_Sam : Tone: Looking into it
[2015-04-24 00:28:05] awkirk : When do you think you will be able to get XBUJ15 back on the drop down?
[2015-04-24 00:29:10] BitMEX_Arthur : awkirk: working on a fix, to access in the meantime go to `Contract Specifications`, click on `XBUJ15`, then you will see a link to trade the instrument and that will get you to the order book.
[2015-04-24 00:29:40] awkirk : got it - thanks
[2015-04-24 00:30:06] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it will be back shortly - you can also access it in the ticker, or in the instruments display at the bottom of the trade page
[2015-04-24 01:20:48] goat : longs getting rekt right now, do we make it to 226
[2015-04-24 01:21:13] BitMEX_Arthur : getting rekt where?
[2015-04-24 03:47:57] BitMEX_Sam : Tone: awkirk: `XBUJ15` is now back in the dropdown - thanks for your patience
[2015-04-24 07:06:03] BitMEX_Arthur : `XBTM15` is now live
[2015-04-24 13:11:55] goat : they were on all exchanges last night
[2015-04-24 13:12:04] goat : bfx had like a $10 swing
[2015-04-25 18:42:07] cloud : Anyone from bitmex here in the trollbox
[2015-04-25 18:42:16] BitMEX_Arthur : hi
[2015-04-25 18:42:42] BitMEX_Arthur : how can we help you
[2015-04-25 18:43:30] cloud : So I just have a few comments about some stuff, probably flood the trollbox if I slam it here, Is there an email you guys have I can reach you at?
[2015-04-25 18:43:41] BitMEX_Arthur : support@bitmex.com
[2015-04-25 18:43:54] BitMEX_Arthur : hit us with your feedback we really appreciate user comments
[2015-04-26 10:49:48] jerryd : can you do stop loss orders here?
[2015-04-26 10:51:32] BitMEX_Arthur : no we haven't exposed that feature yet
[2015-04-26 23:00:01] cengelandreasen : 2 confirmations on a small deposit i made and it creited a deposit i made after but not that
[2015-04-26 23:00:11] cengelandreasen : woops, i send email
[2015-04-27 13:07:45] cengelandreasen : would a negative realisedPnl arise from commission or what ?
[2015-04-27 13:07:56] cengelandreasen : for a position that has been opened and not closed
[2015-04-27 13:19:23] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes commissions will show up as part of realised pNL
[2015-04-27 22:22:43] cengelandreasen : ah okay, yea the insurance fee was being applied, forgot about that one
[2015-04-27 23:00:07] cengelandreasen : does it require waiting to next session for realized pnl to be usable in margin?
[2015-04-27 23:04:18] cengelandreasen : because made a profitable trade and at re-entry my margin is less so i cant buy same amount of position
[2015-04-27 23:04:52] cengelandreasen : and the trade history data is all over the place but looks like it shows the positive pnl but not available in margin
[2015-04-27 23:05:26] cengelandreasen : and it's not just because the price is higher ofc :P
[2015-04-27 23:11:47] cengelandreasen : exec buy 223.01, sell 231.50, but net still reduced my margin available
[2015-04-27 23:12:32] cengelandreasen : but i dont see anything about pnl settling per session in ref/faq
[2015-04-27 23:42:29] cengelandreasen : along those lines it would be nice to see an accounting of the margin availability
[2015-04-27 23:51:53] cengelandreasen : sorry to flood trollbox maybe should have sent support email instead :/
[2015-04-28 01:26:26] BitMEX_Sam : cengelandreasen: You have an email
[2015-04-28 01:27:45] cengelandreasen : so unrealised pnl affects available balance not used against maint margin ?
[2015-04-28 01:28:20] cengelandreasen : because if i were to use all the available margin to buy contracts now, that unrealised pnl would then send me negative available margin ?
[2015-04-28 01:28:43] cengelandreasen : rather than debiting against the maintenance margin
[2015-04-28 01:28:44] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, that's true
[2015-04-28 01:28:56] BitMEX_Sam : You can reach negative available margin
[2015-04-28 01:29:09] BitMEX_Sam : You won't be margin called until you reach negative excess margin
[2015-04-28 01:29:50] BitMEX_Sam : You wouldn't immediately reach negative available margin once buying to your limit, only if the price moved would you go negative, and only if it moved against you
[2015-04-28 01:30:56] BitMEX_Sam : Of course you won't actually see negative available margin, it's floored to 0 for display purposes. Pay attention to your excess margin, that's the number that really matters re: liquidation
[2015-04-28 01:31:04] BitMEX_Sam : Available margin is just what you have left for opening new positions.
[2015-04-28 01:31:31] cengelandreasen : yea i just figured that if i had put down margin for a position that any changes would debit against that margin and not affect the dry powder
[2015-04-28 01:31:44] cengelandreasen : but that's becuase i didn't read the excess margin / initial / maintenance system properly
[2015-04-28 01:32:09] cengelandreasen : it's slightly counterintuitive but i see now
[2015-04-28 01:33:42] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, margin is calculated for all open positions in a single pot
[2015-04-28 01:34:03] BitMEX_Sam : The nice part of this is that you can reinvest unrealised pnl into other positions immediately, which is not possible on other systems
[2015-04-28 01:34:37] cengelandreasen : well im on the other side of that coin now :P
[2015-04-28 01:35:01] cengelandreasen : it would be nice to enter hedge and trading positions simultaneously
[2015-04-28 01:35:14] cengelandreasen : like if you had accounts segregated so that i can hedge without paying the insurance fee
[2015-04-28 01:35:21] cengelandreasen : but still do trading in between
[2015-04-28 01:36:37] BitMEX_Sam : The best way to do that is to open multiple accounts
[2015-04-28 01:36:53] BitMEX_Sam : That way you can put them into different fee modes via the option in the `Account` page
[2015-04-28 01:38:07] cengelandreasen : yea i'll just do that
[2015-04-28 01:46:52] cengelandreasen : anyway thanks Sam, i should have read the refs more closely it explains it just fine :)
[2015-04-28 01:47:31] cengelandreasen : if the price was moving more on the other open position, i would have noticed it more quickly but no trades meant the avail balance wasn't moving either
[2015-04-28 15:26:18] brandonwong89 : hey, is it possible to get historial data of XBU24H on excel?
[2015-04-28 15:31:42] brandonwong89 : no worries found it
[2015-04-28 20:45:03] kasman5 : Is BVOL not available to trade?
[2015-04-28 20:51:05] BitMEX_Sam : kasman5: Not right now. We are making adjustments to the contract structure to make it more useful to trade
[2015-04-28 20:51:15] BitMEX_Sam : We expect to launch the new contract in the next 48 hours
[2015-04-28 21:14:10] kasman5 : cheers
[2015-04-30 05:47:28] cengelandreasen : will BVOL settle monthly or ?
[2015-04-30 06:57:07] uiop : http://i.imgur.com/EFnIVnf.png
[2015-04-30 08:11:32] BitMEX_Arthur : cengelandreasen: BVOL will settle daily
[2015-04-30 08:16:33] kasman5 : Why am I unable to liquiddate my position
[2015-04-30 08:17:56] BitMEX_Arthur : kasman5: Is your account in margin call?
[2015-04-30 08:18:15] kasman5 : wanted to cut my losses at 234, said I couldn't as it would my account in margin call
[2015-04-30 08:18:46] kasman5 : in margin call now and some contracts were force liquidated ar prices worse than I could have got out at
[2015-04-30 08:21:48] BitMEX_Arthur : kasman5: Once your account is in margin call we do not allow the user to close out at a price that would further decrease your account equity, deposit more funds to end the margin call
[2015-04-30 08:24:59] kasman5 : right, need to look into this more. This is why I decided to only deposit a small amount!
[2015-04-30 08:25:43] kasman5 : If you want full leverage on here do you have to use all your margin
[2015-04-30 08:26:13] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes because we conduce margin on a portfolio level
[2015-04-30 08:26:24] BitMEX_Arthur : Please read https://www.bitmex.com/app/marginCall for more information about our margin call process
[2015-04-30 08:27:10] BitMEX_Arthur : Each contract requires its own maintenance margin, and if your equity dips below that aggregate level on a portfolio basis we place you in a margin call
[2015-04-30 08:28:23] kasman5 : will do, suppose bad thing about this is you can't have full leverage and protect positions aswell
[2015-04-30 08:30:41] kasman5 : I suppose it won't matter too much when liquidity increases and you can manually manage your account
[2015-05-01 05:39:18] cengelandreasen : i closed an XBUU15 contract to step up cost basis (and liquidiation price) for a hedge. but the liquidiationprice shows only 17% higher than entry price. is that because of my neg realisedPnl ?
[2015-05-01 05:40:42] cengelandreasen : because i also wanted to open it under hedging fee structure, so i thought maybe it would not have a settlement issue there
[2015-05-01 09:09:19] cengelandreasen : unless the liquidation price is for margincall, not actual liquidiation? so the remaining margin still can be taken from deposit
[2015-05-01 10:35:42] cengelandreasen : i could have sworn though on the contract i closed with lower entry price had same liquidiation price as this one now 279 at entry 237
[2015-05-01 16:33:52] BitMEX_Arthur : cengelandreasen: can you create a support ticket with your specific issue, we don't like discussing your account trading details over the private chat
[2015-05-01 16:33:54] BitMEX_Arthur : i mean public chat
[2015-05-01 18:25:51] cengelandreasen : yea sry i tried to keep it general and used specific example, but i just send support
[2015-05-02 23:26:52] VanCleef : does bitmex offer options trading?
[2015-05-02 23:32:59] BitMEX_Arthur : VanCleef: Not at the present moment
[2015-05-02 23:33:07] BitMEX_Arthur : that is something we are working on for later this year
[2015-05-02 23:33:38] BitMEX_Arthur : If you want to trade implied volatility, the `XBT` quanto series has some interesting gamma properties in USD terms
[2015-05-02 23:34:07] VanCleef : awesmome, that would be so good, been looking around for bitcoin options, nothing seems to be around
[2015-05-02 23:34:31] BitMEX_Arthur : Most important is for us to get the futures contracts more liquid first
[2015-05-02 23:34:45] BitMEX_Arthur : then we can list options that deliver our futures contracts
[2015-05-02 23:34:54] VanCleef : :)
[2015-05-02 23:35:21] BitMEX_Arthur : So use your affiliate referral link and tell the world about BitMEX :)
[2015-05-02 23:35:23] VanCleef : any other trading products in the works?
[2015-05-02 23:35:46] BitMEX_Arthur : We will be relaunching the volatility product next week with a daily expiry
[2015-05-02 23:36:03] VanCleef : nice
[2015-05-02 23:36:11] BitMEX_Arthur : you will be able to trade the day's volatility, we take the last price on Bitfinex every 5 minutes and look at the change
[2015-05-02 23:36:29] BitMEX_Arthur : it will be a great product for day trading
[2015-05-02 23:37:37] VanCleef : nice man looking fwd to it, any thoughts on white labelling bitmex in the future?
[2015-05-02 23:38:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Our API is public so anyone can plug into the exchange now and put whatever front end they like on top
[2015-05-02 23:38:45] BitMEX_Arthur : we are working with third party trading software providers to connect into BitMEX
[2015-05-02 23:38:51] BitMEX_Arthur : firms like Bit Delta One
[2015-05-02 23:39:10] BitMEX_Arthur : they are putting together some cool algos and basis trading tech that incorporates BitMEX
[2015-05-03 04:36:22] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: hey man, hope all is well
[2015-05-03 04:42:54] BitMEX_Arthur : hi
[2015-05-03 11:13:23] Kalman : BVOL discontinued?
[2015-05-03 11:13:28] Kalman : Hi
[2015-05-03 12:03:30] BitMEX_Wally : Kalman: We will be relaunching the volatility product next week with a daily expiry
[2015-05-04 22:47:36] kasman5 : When will the stop loss feature be introduced?
[2015-05-04 22:49:35] BitMEX_Sam : kasman5: We have it implemented on our trading engine, it just hasn't been worked into the live API and UI yet
[2015-05-04 22:49:49] BitMEX_Sam : We are launching a new volatility product very soon, stop loss is on the roadmap to come shortly after
[2015-05-04 22:57:35] BitMEX_Sam : In the meantime it is simple to place a low limit order (on a long position) or a high limit order (on a short position) in order to exit your position before you risk liquidation.
[2015-05-04 23:05:45] kasman5 : That's all manual though isn't it?
[2015-05-04 23:06:46] kasman5 : XBTK15 I couldn't put a sell order in below 242.06 right now
[2015-05-05 01:38:24] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes. Sorry, I've been up too long. That only works for locking in your profits. We will be getting stops into the system very soon after the new BVOL launch.
[2015-05-05 07:46:37] gaoMex : Arthur around?
[2015-05-05 07:55:59] gaoMex : The newsletter yesterday was sent when there was no trade on GBTC. Now that trades had started, does Arthur have anything to add?
[2015-05-05 08:27:06] VanCleef : yo i didn't get the news letter :(
[2015-05-05 08:32:16] VanCleef : do you automatically get newsletter when u sign up?
[2015-05-05 10:06:07] cengelandreasen : If you look on their twitter they post the newsletter anyway publicly there
[2015-05-05 10:11:01] cengelandreasen : ouch XBUU15 spread is $19 atm... almost 10% of bid :/
[2015-05-05 10:11:37] cengelandreasen : market maker sees the dump and doesn't want to bid into it i guess
[2015-05-05 11:04:21] cengelandreasen : gaomax , yea GBTC now is trading $42...implied BTC/USD of $420 ... seems bizarre to me. i know theres a 1 year lag converting from BIT to GBTC but this kind of premium seems silly. no tax incentive can justify this
[2015-05-05 12:03:22] kasman5 : GBTC volume is so low it is insignificant.
[2015-05-05 12:03:40] BitMEX_Arthur : I'll write a blog post about it today in response and publish
[2015-05-05 13:39:26] BitMEX_Arthur : My take on GBTC
[2015-05-05 13:39:27] BitMEX_Arthur : https://blog.bitmex.com/gbtc-trades-and-the-market-yawns/
[2015-05-05 13:40:18] BitMEX_Sam : Wish we had one of those clapping hands emoticons
[2015-05-05 19:46:39] goat : wow that was fast lol
[2015-05-05 19:46:42] goat : i will take a read later today
[2015-05-05 19:47:08] goat : nevermind, its short
[2015-05-05 19:48:28] BitMEX_Arthur : :)
[2015-05-05 19:48:45] BitMEX_Arthur : short and sweet
[2015-05-06 03:26:02] aabtc : Hey Arthur, you guys going to be at the hk conference next week?
[2015-05-06 09:01:28] cengelandreasen : Arthur, agree w your post for sure. I would add that going based on anecdotes of people buying, a lot of it is just "novelty" which could explain (some) of that insane premium
[2015-05-06 11:31:33] BitMEX_Arthur : aabtc: Yes we will be at Inside Bitcoins Hong Kong
[2015-05-06 11:59:41] goat : yeah man, it looks good
[2015-05-06 12:00:07] goat : i liked the part in your newsletter that we spoke about in nyc too, great job with that
[2015-05-06 12:00:37] BitMEX_Arthur : thanks for the headsup
[2015-05-07 12:09:36] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: http://shitco.in/2015/05/07/bitfinex-appears-to-have-crossed-streams-btc-crash-on-hold/
[2015-05-07 12:15:13] BitMEX_Arthur : nice one
[2015-05-07 12:15:33] BitMEX_Arthur : it must be the alpha point integration
[2015-05-07 13:23:07] goat : it is
[2015-05-07 13:23:10] goat : article is edited
[2015-05-07 13:23:17] goat : info is at the bottom
[2015-05-07 13:34:49] goat : haha the bitmex one is great too
[2015-05-07 14:02:25] aabtc : Arthur, I might finally get to meet you guys in person there then :)
[2015-05-07 14:41:26] BitMEX_Sam : aabtc: Going to Inside Bitcoins HK?
[2015-05-07 14:42:12] aabtc : Ill know by tomorrow
[2015-05-07 14:43:12] BitMEX_Sam : Cool. I'll be missing it unfortunately but Arthur knows all the best spots in HK
[2015-05-07 14:43:14] BitMEX_Sam : You guys will have a blast
[2015-05-07 14:45:37] aabtc : Yeah really looking forward to it
[2015-05-07 15:10:23] BitMEX_Arthur : aabtc: when know if you're coming send us a mail at support@bitmex.com and we can schedule a time to chat
[2015-05-07 16:52:30] goat : aabtc: Arthur is the man, I met with him at a show as well. You will have a great time!
[2015-05-07 18:13:44] BitMEX_Arthur : i underestimated the itBit news
[2015-05-07 18:13:47] BitMEX_Arthur : i think we rip on this
[2015-05-07 18:14:01] BitMEX_Arthur : not sure if it's a total game changer but let's see if we can break $245
[2015-05-07 18:17:18] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: same
[2015-05-07 18:17:24] goat : i was watching oil for a short and totally missed out on this
[2015-05-07 18:38:42] cengelandreasen : S&P been playing funny games the past few weeks
[2015-05-07 18:38:50] cengelandreasen : not sure if it's worth going short into NFP tomorrow
[2015-05-07 18:39:12] cengelandreasen : if janet yellen saying stocks are overvalued isn't gonna do it i dont know what will
[2015-05-07 18:39:37] BitMEX_Arthur : shorting the s&p is a tough game
[2015-05-07 18:39:47] BitMEX_Arthur : might as well just wait for them to raise rates
[2015-05-07 18:40:01] BitMEX_Arthur : the market thinks even if they do the us economy is so "strong" it can withstand it
[2015-05-07 18:40:05] BitMEX_Arthur : it will be 1994 all over again
[2015-05-07 18:40:10] BitMEX_Arthur : and they will quickly reverse course
[2015-05-07 18:40:53] BitMEX_Arthur : i have this argument with my roommate who is a bond sales guy, he says even if they raise rates us economy so strong, and rattles off all the massaged macro statitics
[2015-05-07 18:47:55] cengelandreasen : Shiller PE is at the same level we were at in 2007
[2015-05-07 18:48:43] cengelandreasen : i think by fall it will be explicitly stated when rates will rise, once the expectations are well anchored the selloff is inevitable.
[2015-05-07 18:49:30] cengelandreasen : unless the data keeps coming out dogshit and it becomes conventional wisdom to keep rates 0 forever Japan-style
[2015-05-07 18:49:45] cengelandreasen : but NFP tomorrow will at least help figure out where we're pointing
[2015-05-07 18:50:25] kasman5 : why will an interest rate hike cause a bond sell off? @cengelandreasen
[2015-05-07 18:50:48] BitMEX_Arthur : equity sell off
[2015-05-07 18:50:52] BitMEX_Arthur : not necessarily a bond one
[2015-05-07 18:51:11] cengelandreasen : talking about S&P, and i dont think bonds will dump much more until we see some actual inflation
[2015-05-07 18:51:43] cengelandreasen : i think Eurozone is having their QE reaction, hence why they sold off and US sold with them
[2015-05-07 18:52:18] BitMEX_Arthur : the last thing the fed wants is a surprise
[2015-05-07 18:52:27] BitMEX_Arthur : it will be well telegraphed
[2015-05-07 19:04:40] cengelandreasen : then again it may just be tied to oil, iza at FT wrote about that today http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2015/05/07/2128729/when-in-bond-rout-doubt-occams-razor/
[2015-05-07 19:13:36] cengelandreasen : been also thinking what the implications of a Labour UK win would be
[2015-05-07 19:14:21] BitMEX_Arthur : which party is Euroskeptic
[2015-05-07 19:18:15] cengelandreasen : UKIP for sure, and Cameron (Tory) promised a referendum
[2015-05-07 19:20:15] cengelandreasen : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-vows-earlier-eu-referendum-on-winning-election-with-perhaps-a-little-ukip-help-9957090.html
[2015-05-07 19:22:23] cengelandreasen : But the odds are no majority at all, so some coalition will form
[2015-05-07 19:22:55] cengelandreasen : http://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/Politics-c110000037
[2015-05-07 19:43:48] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah i'm no expert on uk politics
[2015-05-07 22:36:04] kasman5 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/YbMWmnOE/ GBPUSD. Huge jump due to the exit polls being released, it is forecasting the Conservatives to do better than initially thought. So a Labour minority will probably send the market the other way.
[2015-05-07 22:36:49] kasman5 : Other link broke, https://www.tradingview.com/x/zVOzlwKq/
[2015-05-08 05:22:16] cengelandreasen : yea that GBP reaction was strong. non-farm payrolls in 7 hours
[2015-05-08 09:39:51] cengelandreasen : i guess we're going to get a referendum on EU now. forget GREXIT we got BREXIT to worry about now too
[2015-05-08 12:16:12] BitMEX_Arthur : when do they plan on having the vote
[2015-05-08 12:16:14] BitMEX_Arthur : not for a while
[2015-05-08 12:20:14] cengelandreasen : NFP in 10 minutes
[2015-05-08 12:20:45] BitMEX_Arthur : lol NFP i never traded us markets, so i'm not so addicted to that one data oint
[2015-05-08 12:20:46] BitMEX_Arthur : point
[2015-05-08 12:21:08] BitMEX_Arthur : always was china macro data
[2015-05-08 12:21:10] BitMEX_Arthur : new loans
[2015-05-08 12:21:33] BitMEX_Arthur : fixed asset growth
[2015-05-08 12:22:00] cengelandreasen : GBP/USD surged on the election results, could correct hard if NFP beats big
[2015-05-08 12:23:09] cengelandreasen : ES reaction will be interesting to see too
[2015-05-08 12:30:56] cengelandreasen : 223K (228K foreast) ES shooting up
[2015-05-08 12:31:16] BitMEX_Arthur : so what's the read fed tightening
[2015-05-08 12:31:20] BitMEX_Arthur : or dealying
[2015-05-08 12:31:23] BitMEX_Arthur : from that print
[2015-05-08 12:33:36] cengelandreasen : basically in line with expectations. Yellen wants to do it later this year, Evans wants 2016, either way it's in the pipeline
[2015-05-08 12:39:13] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah they will let everyone know with ample time
[2015-05-08 12:51:50] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: new post is up with some analysis of yesterday's move
[2015-05-08 12:55:10] BitMEX_Arthur : so do u buy or sell here
[2015-05-08 12:55:20] BitMEX_Arthur : i was looking for that in the post u seem to be fence sitting ;)
[2015-05-08 12:56:20] BitMEX_Arthur : my spydy sense says we go lower here
[2015-05-08 13:00:05] BitMEX_Arthur : the fact that USD longs declined on the move up is worrysome
[2015-05-08 13:00:24] BitMEX_Arthur : probably what confirmed my bearish view after i bot some of the rally yesterday
[2015-05-08 13:13:20] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: im really not sure, thats why the article seems like indecision lol
[2015-05-08 13:13:42] goat : i think that we are at a point where if all things stay equal right now the bfx longs will eventually get squeezed about (for the reasons we have discussed)
[2015-05-08 13:13:49] goat : but there is definitely new money coming into the system now
[2015-05-08 13:14:11] goat : so if that money keeps coming in, it could slowly offset the shorts
[2015-05-08 13:14:42] goat : i honestly have been trading EURUSD and oil the last 2 days, only small btc trades
[2015-05-08 13:16:57] BitMEX_Arthur : i haven't touched any other asset other than crypto in a long time
[2015-05-08 13:17:08] goat : me either lol until this week
[2015-05-08 13:17:10] BitMEX_Arthur : i used to punt FX all day at work, me and all my friends
[2015-05-08 13:17:16] goat : but i discovered 1broker
[2015-05-08 13:17:25] BitMEX_Arthur : we are thinking of that product
[2015-05-08 13:17:27] BitMEX_Arthur : how do u find it
[2015-05-08 13:17:38] BitMEX_Arthur : we would tweak it a bit and make it a future but similar concept
[2015-05-08 13:17:53] goat : 1broker is redic