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[2015-11-25 11:39:53] podizzler3k : it was hilariously ugly
[2015-11-25 11:40:03] podizzler3k : i was long and they did a trade rewind
[2015-11-25 11:40:08] podizzler3k : was pissed
[2015-11-25 11:41:19] floopfloop : is this the 2100 sell off? or moon?
[2015-11-25 11:41:38] podizzler3k : 2100 sell off?
[2015-11-25 11:41:56] podizzler3k : oh wow i didnt realize it got that high
[2015-11-25 11:42:02] floopfloop : podizzler3k: it always goes up to 2100 and china sells it back to 2050
[2015-11-25 11:42:12] podizzler3k : well not always
[2015-11-25 11:42:35] podizzler3k : we havent seen 2100 in a few days
[2015-11-25 11:42:54] podizzler3k : obviously i think moon is premature
[2015-11-25 11:43:07] podizzler3k : but its crawling out the grave
[2015-11-25 11:43:15] podizzler3k : thats the first step to the moon
[2015-11-25 11:43:40] floopfloop : podizzler3k: I went extreme at 2100
[2015-11-25 11:43:52] podizzler3k : yolo
[2015-11-25 11:44:32] floopfloop : lost 1 btc today
[2015-11-25 11:44:36] podizzler3k : i would go extreme but i cant stand getting liquidated so i keep it conservative
[2015-11-25 11:44:37] floopfloop : just made it all back at that rush
[2015-11-25 11:44:43] podizzler3k : nice
[2015-11-25 11:44:49] floopfloop : had longs at 316
[2015-11-25 11:44:55] floopfloop : boith 24 and 7d
[2015-11-25 11:45:03] floopfloop : sold all 24 (too early) lol
[2015-11-25 11:45:11] floopfloop : sold half my 7d position
[2015-11-25 11:45:31] floopfloop : hoping to make some here with this short
[2015-11-25 11:45:31] rapidtrades : floopfloop: sold too early as well...didn't want to carry to sttlement
[2015-11-25 11:45:41] podizzler3k : i'll take a look in 20 minutes see how things are on the 24
[2015-11-25 11:45:45] podizzler3k : bbl
[2015-11-25 11:46:05] floopfloop : yeah, settlement has screwed me last 2 days, was taking no chances. needed to take the profit since I was down. If I was up I would have let it ride
[2015-11-25 11:46:17] floopfloop : might have sold at 2100
[2015-11-25 11:54:21] zanza : liquidation on 7D
[2015-11-25 11:54:30] rapidtrades : hush
[2015-11-25 11:54:40] floopfloop : ^rekt
[2015-11-25 11:54:40] billyboy402 : how can you tell ?
[2015-11-25 11:56:18] billyboy402 : how can you tell about margin call ? do they flash different color
[2015-11-25 11:57:17] zanza : 20k order
[2015-11-25 11:57:20] zanza : at 330
[2015-11-25 11:57:46] billyboy402 : how do you know it not some one buying ")
[2015-11-25 11:58:17] zanza : gone
[2015-11-25 11:58:26] floopfloop : i was thinking of eating that too
[2015-11-25 11:58:51] habibi : someone
[2015-11-25 11:59:00] habibi : short on it and moment later buy into book?
[2015-11-25 11:59:49] zanza : billyboy402: basically when big orders pop up on movement
[2015-11-25 11:59:54] zanza : you can assume its call
[2015-11-25 12:00:19] habibi : u can check on api latest liq
[2015-11-25 12:00:47] billyboy402 : oh that good only lost 0.6 i couldnt close out my my 50,000 contacts
[2015-11-25 12:00:55] zanza : 50k :o
[2015-11-25 12:01:01] floopfloop : rofl
[2015-11-25 12:01:15] billyboy402 : that why you dont panic close lol
[2015-11-25 12:01:31] rapidtrades : ppl are being retards on the weekly
[2015-11-25 12:01:33] floopfloop : "only lost .6"
[2015-11-25 12:01:35] billyboy402 : 50,000 sound bit , but it like 200 contacts on okc
[2015-11-25 12:02:09] rapidtrades : its 500
[2015-11-25 12:02:12] SnackyCoins : yes
[2015-11-25 12:02:14] SnackyCoins : take those contracts
[2015-11-25 12:02:16] billyboy402 : hopefully tomorrow better
[2015-11-25 12:02:22] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: which
[2015-11-25 12:02:28] SnackyCoins : bids
[2015-11-25 12:02:32] SnackyCoins : they all over
[2015-11-25 12:02:37] zanza : i lost like .75 BTC on that 24H action
[2015-11-25 12:02:46] SnackyCoins : lol i have all but 30 of the open interest
[2015-11-25 12:02:51] floopfloop : zanza: I gained .75+ lol
[2015-11-25 12:02:54] SnackyCoins : no stop bidding
[2015-11-25 12:02:55] SnackyCoins : sell
[2015-11-25 12:02:58] SnackyCoins : sell into the bids
[2015-11-25 12:02:58] zanza : ok, you owe me
[2015-11-25 12:03:29] SnackyCoins : sell hard come on
[2015-11-25 12:03:33] SnackyCoins : china bans bitcoin
[2015-11-25 12:03:40] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: banned*
[2015-11-25 12:03:51] SnackyCoins : i was going headline-style
[2015-11-25 12:04:02] SnackyCoins : the important thing is that it's fud and you should believe it
[2015-11-25 12:04:04] SnackyCoins : then act on it
[2015-11-25 12:04:08] SnackyCoins : and fill my bids
[2015-11-25 12:04:11] TschavaTschigger : happy new trading day everybody
[2015-11-25 12:04:18] SnackyCoins : they are only a few dollars below index come on
[2015-11-25 12:04:25] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: you are really going long on 24h?
[2015-11-25 12:04:27] billyboy402 : i open last night 325 shot , should of try to close out at 316 ... and settle the same price lol
[2015-11-25 12:04:40] SnackyCoins : thats right i'm crazy you should take my money
[2015-11-25 12:05:12] SnackyCoins : i moved them up
[2015-11-25 12:05:13] SnackyCoins : come on
[2015-11-25 12:05:27] floopfloop : 330 and I will
[2015-11-25 12:05:31] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-11-25 12:07:03] rapidtrades : price moves a few bucks and everyone loses their freaking mind
[2015-11-25 12:08:09] SnackyCoins : lol a few bucks
[2015-11-25 12:08:24] SnackyCoins : $10 in 20 minutes
[2015-11-25 12:08:27] lazerdye : After all this boredom lately, yeaj
[2015-11-25 12:08:36] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: right $10 bucks
[2015-11-25 12:08:53] SnackyCoins : sounds like you're feeling bearish
[2015-11-25 12:09:05] rapidtrades : lemme put that in a letter and write home about it....on second thought NOT
[2015-11-25 12:09:07] SnackyCoins : let me help you express that sentiment
[2015-11-25 12:09:19] SnackyCoins : i will create bids for you to short
[2015-11-25 12:09:29] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: were you 327.8?
[2015-11-25 12:09:30] SnackyCoins : nobody else take them ok? these are for @rapidtrades
[2015-11-25 12:09:41] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: already short at 330 pal
[2015-11-25 12:09:43] SnackyCoins : floopfloop: i'm looking at you dont you take these bids
[2015-11-25 12:09:56] floopfloop : but but but
[2015-11-25 12:10:03] SnackyCoins : i dont wall up
[2015-11-25 12:10:09] zanza : rapidtrades: did u get that 20k ?
[2015-11-25 12:10:15] SnackyCoins : i scatter my orders
[2015-11-25 12:10:25] SnackyCoins : 1500-2500
[2015-11-25 12:10:29] SnackyCoins : depending on how much i want to fomo
[2015-11-25 12:10:35] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: scatter this *flips u off
[2015-11-25 12:10:50] SnackyCoins : oooo diss
[2015-11-25 12:10:55] zanza : edgy
[2015-11-25 12:11:05] JACOBcze : calm down guys its just gonna go to 400$ next week, no need to panicbuy
[2015-11-25 12:11:14] floopfloop : rip RSI
[2015-11-25 12:18:29] floopfloop : back to 315?
[2015-11-25 12:19:39] rapidtrades : ok out of my short...
[2015-11-25 12:21:05] rapidtrades : floopfloop: I don't think so
[2015-11-25 12:21:09] AudibleScience : JACOBcze: "down to $400!?" since when have you been trading man?
[2015-11-25 12:21:25] rapidtrades : AudibleScience: he said ''calm down''
[2015-11-25 12:21:31] rapidtrades : calm down @AudibleScience
[2015-11-25 12:21:55] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: lol I'm calm dude...
[2015-11-25 12:22:29] AudibleScience : In fact I'm pretty happy with my sleep trade! lol
[2015-11-25 12:22:54] rapidtrades : AudibleScience: noone cares
[2015-11-25 12:23:45] floopfloop : AudibleScience: he is mad he got liquidated
[2015-11-25 12:24:36] rapidtrades : i shorted at 330...can u read...look up
[2015-11-25 12:24:54] floopfloop : NaCl?
[2015-11-25 12:25:00] rapidtrades : its all timestamped b1tch
[2015-11-25 12:25:12] floopfloop : You are adorable
[2015-11-25 12:25:38] rapidtrades : tnx pal
[2015-11-25 12:26:12] SnackyCoins : its gonna be a fun couple of days
[2015-11-25 12:26:37] rapidtrades : I think long is the next stop but not at these prices
[2015-11-25 12:26:40] AudibleScience : SnackyCoins: has there been some good news or something?
[2015-11-25 12:26:45] rapidtrades : or not now...
[2015-11-25 12:27:42] SnackyCoins : i dunno, news will be deemed relevant and attach itself to the price action later
[2015-11-25 12:30:26] rapidtrades : ppl bought at 333 on the weekly
[2015-11-25 12:30:31] rapidtrades : the fomo is real
[2015-11-25 12:30:41] irbbqu : Probably a liq
[2015-11-25 12:31:09] rapidtrades : mah it was small...but over 20k executd near 330
[2015-11-25 12:31:35] j8 : 18,000 at 333
[2015-11-25 12:32:02] floopfloop : i think that was billybob
[2015-11-25 12:32:22] rapidtrades : j8: oh right...I missed that
[2015-11-25 12:32:30] SnackyCoins : why arent you selling
[2015-11-25 12:32:30] floopfloop : wish I hadnt missed on the 20k 330 tho.
[2015-11-25 12:32:40] j8 : yeah i think we were all staring at it
[2015-11-25 12:32:59] floopfloop : I was literally going to the screen after looking at some things and it was good
[2015-11-25 12:33:00] floopfloop : gone
[2015-11-25 12:33:12] rapidtrades : floopfloop: how much did u get? i remember u were long yesterday
[2015-11-25 12:33:29] floopfloop : I lost 1 btc yesterday and made it back
[2015-11-25 12:33:39] floopfloop : with that bull run
[2015-11-25 12:33:48] JACOBcze : xD
[2015-11-25 12:33:53] floopfloop : i was long at 316 for 24h and 7d
[2015-11-25 12:34:02] SnackyCoins : man i cant get these bids filled, there's no sellers. maybe everyone who is going to sell has already sold
[2015-11-25 12:34:08] rapidtrades : ok cool...I meant how much of the move did u get..from where to where
[2015-11-25 12:34:09] SnackyCoins : i wonder what happens then 8) 8) 8)
[2015-11-25 12:34:31] JACOBcze : guess they dont wanna miss out on the move to 400$
[2015-11-25 12:34:41] JACOBcze : $_$ 400 $_$
[2015-11-25 12:34:54] rapidtrades : JACOBcze: there wont be a move to $400...probably :)
[2015-11-25 12:35:02] JACOBcze : $_$ u sure?
[2015-11-25 12:35:09] rapidtrades : 80% sure
[2015-11-25 12:35:20] JACOBcze : im 95% sure there'll be
[2015-11-25 12:35:24] JACOBcze : so i already beat u
[2015-11-25 12:35:30] JACOBcze : ^_^
[2015-11-25 12:35:36] floopfloop : im 100% sure you both are full of shit
[2015-11-25 12:35:47] JACOBcze : floop pls
[2015-11-25 12:35:53] SnackyCoins : i'm 40% as long as i want to be
[2015-11-25 12:36:00] SnackyCoins : please sell more
[2015-11-25 12:36:06] rapidtrades : flipper noone ccares about ur opinion
[2015-11-25 12:36:13] j8 : SnackyCoins: which contract
[2015-11-25 12:36:22] SnackyCoins : ohh theres some of them ty
[2015-11-25 12:36:27] JACOBcze : leave floops alone T_T
[2015-11-25 12:36:35] SnackyCoins : i got more at 326 and more at 325.3
[2015-11-25 12:37:17] floopfloop : JACOBcze: hes just mad because what he is saying is actually how people see him lol
[2015-11-25 12:37:40] floopfloop : whoa china just sold 6k btc
[2015-11-25 12:38:17] JACOBcze : china does these things
[2015-11-25 12:38:26] JACOBcze : u cant take them too seriously
[2015-11-25 12:38:31] habibi : floopfloop: 2015 and u still believes in china volumizer
[2015-11-25 12:38:42] rapidtrades : euro now ganged behing the railway station....don't look :(
[2015-11-25 12:38:49] floopfloop : habibi: lol
[2015-11-25 12:38:49] JACOBcze : well i dont believe in china volumizer but im not discounting it
[2015-11-25 12:38:53] JACOBcze : i believe in overall volumizer
[2015-11-25 12:39:05] JACOBcze : bitcoin market is not big enough yet to fuck around with volume like stock markets
[2015-11-25 12:39:13] JACOBcze : wtf
[2015-11-25 12:39:17] JACOBcze : i didnt write gently caress
[2015-11-25 12:39:19] JACOBcze : what the hell is that
[2015-11-25 12:39:23] SnackyCoins : JACOBcze: you can see it happen
[2015-11-25 12:39:34] SnackyCoins : orders appear in the tape that were never on the book
[2015-11-25 12:39:43] floopfloop : JACOBcze: go fuck yourself
[2015-11-25 12:39:47] SnackyCoins : they can do this because 0% fees = lol
[2015-11-25 12:39:50] JACOBcze : oh i see thats funny
[2015-11-25 12:39:53] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: notice that too...why is that
[2015-11-25 12:40:00] SnackyCoins : thats the volumizer
[2015-11-25 12:40:03] floopfloop : JACOBcze: type in the "n" word
[2015-11-25 12:40:17] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: u mean here or on china
[2015-11-25 12:40:19] JACOBcze : i'd rather not
[2015-11-25 12:40:26] floopfloop : JACOBcze: just do it
[2015-11-25 12:40:31] rapidtrades : nigger
[2015-11-25 12:40:35] rapidtrades : :)
[2015-11-25 12:40:37] SnackyCoins : anywhere with a 0% fee setup: okc.cn, houbi, bitstamp even
[2015-11-25 12:40:56] rapidtrades : loool is that cos Arthur is black or?
[2015-11-25 12:41:05] rapidtrades : cos that would be hilarious
[2015-11-25 12:41:06] floopfloop : its because its true
[2015-11-25 12:41:08] SnackyCoins : hay hay he guessed it
[2015-11-25 12:41:08] JACOBcze : bitcoin is going to 1000$ in the next 6 months im like 90% sure
[2015-11-25 12:41:14] JACOBcze : i can say it since noone will give a shit about what im saying
[2015-11-25 12:41:20] JACOBcze : FeelsGoodMan
[2015-11-25 12:42:06] sleger : retard
[2015-11-25 12:42:27] JACOBcze : the accumulation was already done right now its just about to liquidate people like me before it happens
[2015-11-25 12:42:41] JACOBcze : and then we'll just ride to the moon on sleger's money
[2015-11-25 12:42:41] JACOBcze : easy
[2015-11-25 12:43:34] sleger : you talk a lot but dont do much
[2015-11-25 12:43:41] podizzler3k_ : greetings mooninites
[2015-11-25 12:43:48] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: sup homes
[2015-11-25 12:43:57] JACOBcze : yeah i dont since 6 months = a long time and im not gonna get chopped like u so im gonna call out insults on everyone thats not doing as shitty as me
[2015-11-25 12:44:09] JACOBcze : FeelsGoodMan
[2015-11-25 12:44:09] sleger : "bitcoin is going to 1000$ in the next 6 months im like 90% sure" -> would you like to bet at 4:1 if you are so sure, 10btc if you win, 40btc if I win
[2015-11-25 12:44:29] JACOBcze : yeah i would but i dont believe broke-ass bitches like u to end up their end of the deal
[2015-11-25 12:44:31] JACOBcze : so i'll pass
[2015-11-25 12:44:39] JACOBcze : and with that i'm going off cya
[2015-11-25 12:44:46] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-11-25 12:44:48] SnackyCoins : this is bitcoin
[2015-11-25 12:44:48] sleger : I was testing the trollbox since they change the N word, the F word, I assumed they would also for the R word, apparently not
[2015-11-25 12:44:55] SnackyCoins : you dont have to trust him to hold his end of the bargain
[2015-11-25 12:44:59] rapidtrades : retard
[2015-11-25 12:45:08] sleger : lets use a third party to hold funds
[2015-11-25 12:45:09] rapidtrades : still in there.... whore
[2015-11-25 12:45:12] rapidtrades : bitch
[2015-11-25 12:45:20] rapidtrades : prostitute
[2015-11-25 12:45:27] SnackyCoins : automatic escrow, dont even need a 3rd party you can write a smart contract
[2015-11-25 12:45:36] podizzler3k_ : snackycoins got this
[2015-11-25 12:45:37] rapidtrades : they're all there...
[2015-11-25 12:45:42] podizzler3k_ : smart contracts
[2015-11-25 12:45:51] SnackyCoins : the contract can even read the price and decide the winner, nobody even has to touch it
[2015-11-25 12:46:00] podizzler3k_ : really?
[2015-11-25 12:46:04] rapidtrades : only few words are censored
[2015-11-25 12:46:07] podizzler3k_ : using what ethereum?
[2015-11-25 12:46:12] rapidtrades : cunt
[2015-11-25 12:46:17] rapidtrades : that's okay too
[2015-11-25 12:46:39] SnackyCoins : there's options. ether is one
[2015-11-25 12:46:45] SnackyCoins : 21's api can do it too i think
[2015-11-25 12:46:51] j8 : how can a smart contract trust a random api?
[2015-11-25 12:47:01] podizzler3k_ : ripple maybe too
[2015-11-25 12:47:02] SnackyCoins : you'd have to tell it what to use
[2015-11-25 12:47:58] ayy lmao : when did buttmex change their colors
[2015-11-25 12:48:33] zanza : 24H spread
[2015-11-25 12:49:36] j8 : SnackyCoins: you would need a reference exchange to commit
[2015-11-25 12:49:39] j8 : oh shit
[2015-11-25 12:49:49] j8 : half typed
[2015-11-25 12:50:08] SnackyCoins : j8: you and your counterparty would just agree on one when you write it... write in a backup even
[2015-11-25 12:50:17] SnackyCoins : write in what happens if both backups fail..
[2015-11-25 12:50:35] SnackyCoins : no limits 8)
[2015-11-25 12:50:59] j8 : you would need an exchange to post the ticker to the blockchain regularly?
[2015-11-25 12:51:11] SnackyCoins : what
[2015-11-25 12:51:21] SnackyCoins : no just... curl it off a page or use an api
[2015-11-25 12:51:44] j8 : doesn't guarantee the same response to different people at different times
[2015-11-25 12:52:08] j8 : it's not a persistent record
[2015-11-25 12:52:16] SnackyCoins : you've chosen a time, the contract reads the price from index then?
[2015-11-25 12:52:30] SnackyCoins : this is a bet we're talking about
[2015-11-25 12:52:37] SnackyCoins : it only has to read the price once
[2015-11-25 12:53:29] j8 : everyone that validates the script would need to poll the api.
[2015-11-25 12:54:02] SnackyCoins : okay, it would need to be a source with historical data
[2015-11-25 12:54:30] SnackyCoins : so you can poll the price on the day the bet settles
[2015-11-25 12:55:30] j8 : is this a double deposit thing where they are incentivized to not cheat? or a contract that executes itself
[2015-11-25 12:56:16] SnackyCoins : yeah i guess you could forge a source, block height would make a better date timer
[2015-11-25 12:56:35] SnackyCoins : https could mitigate some data source forging
[2015-11-25 12:58:40] SnackyCoins : this is good 8) i want to get better at these
[2015-11-25 12:58:54] SnackyCoins : smart contracts that is
[2015-11-25 13:00:35] j8 : yeah i think if someone like tradeblock put their index in blocks regularly it could work, if the parties trust them to do it honestly
[2015-11-25 13:01:23] rapidtrades : ok poll!!!!!!!!!!! LISTEN UP
[2015-11-25 13:01:26] rapidtrades : LONG OR SHORT
[2015-11-25 13:01:37] SnackyCoins : yeah there's no real way to remove trust from getting an accurate usd price
[2015-11-25 13:01:48] SnackyCoins : long or short what
[2015-11-25 13:01:49] rapidtrades : WHERE WE GOING NEXT B1TCHES POLL THE FUK UP
[2015-11-25 13:01:53] rapidtrades : LONG
[2015-11-25 13:02:10] rapidtrades : JUST PICK ONE JIZZ
[2015-11-25 13:02:28] SnackyCoins : i dont understand the question
[2015-11-25 13:02:50] rapidtrades : whatev's
[2015-11-25 13:02:58] podizzler3k_ : pick one jizz?
[2015-11-25 13:03:02] podizzler3k_ : uhh
[2015-11-25 13:03:17] SnackyCoins : if i say short will you do it
[2015-11-25 13:03:30] rapidtrades : nevermind I don't care anyone
[2015-11-25 13:03:37] rapidtrades : anymore*
[2015-11-25 13:03:37] SnackyCoins : this is a fun chat
[2015-11-25 13:03:57] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: tnx I'll like to keep the spirits up
[2015-11-25 13:04:16] podizzler3k_ : more like spazz out
[2015-11-25 13:04:31] SnackyCoins : jizz out*
[2015-11-25 13:04:54] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: ur one nasty CEO
[2015-11-25 13:05:39] SnackyCoins : let me ask a different question, if everyone voted long with you and nobody, not 1 person said short, what would you do
[2015-11-25 13:05:56] SnackyCoins : re-evaluate your position or become encouraged?
[2015-11-25 13:06:47] rapidtrades : I would short
[2015-11-25 13:07:22] podizzler3k_ : ceo? Caribbean Entity Overlord? yes its hard work keeping the aliens of aruba in check
[2015-11-25 13:07:45] floopfloop : I wish all these CEO's would stop asking me for change at the bus stop
[2015-11-25 13:07:59] podizzler3k_ : snacky go short of course
[2015-11-25 13:08:14] podizzler3k_ : everyone that is long is already bought in and the price has nowhere to go but down
[2015-11-25 13:08:17] SnackyCoins : ok cool
[2015-11-25 13:08:20] SnackyCoins : long
[2015-11-25 13:08:21] SnackyCoins : then
[2015-11-25 13:08:25] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-25 13:08:27] SnackyCoins : i vote long
[2015-11-25 13:08:41] podizzler3k_ : thats if everyone voted long which is hardly the case atm
[2015-11-25 13:08:50] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: :)
[2015-11-25 13:08:58] SnackyCoins : so far 100% of the votes are long
[2015-11-25 13:09:00] podizzler3k_ : wipe that smirk off your face
[2015-11-25 13:09:15] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: :D
[2015-11-25 13:09:28] podizzler3k_ : im sure RSI says its entirely overbought
[2015-11-25 13:09:46] podizzler3k_ : btw 3000 futures contracts were picked up at okcoin during that pump
[2015-11-25 13:10:05] podizzler3k_ : the only question is long or short
[2015-11-25 13:10:49] SnackyCoins : short and then buy back higher
[2015-11-25 13:10:55] podizzler3k_ : btc-e still dragging their ass at $321
[2015-11-25 13:11:01] podizzler3k_ : not buying the pump frenzy at all
[2015-11-25 13:11:48] SnackyCoins : ok i'm filled we can go up now
[2015-11-25 13:12:46] podizzler3k_ : munch munch snackycoins
[2015-11-25 13:13:29] SnackyCoins : i'm 20% of the open interest :D
[2015-11-25 13:41:12] zanza : with what? @SnackyCoins
[2015-11-25 13:53:55] rapidtrades : SMONE CALL AN AMBULANCE
[2015-11-25 13:54:11] rapidtrades : the Euro is getting the shit kicked out of him
[2015-11-25 13:56:32] zanza : should there be a limit how fast bots can post orders? like 10 sec?
[2015-11-25 13:56:59] zanza : has science gone too far?
[2015-11-25 13:58:03] rapidtrades : loool I was just gonna post an ask and they knocked down the premium to shit
[2015-11-25 13:58:56] rapidtrades : zanza: u packing man?
[2015-11-25 13:59:02] zanza : uhh
[2015-11-25 13:59:14] floopfloop : zanza: hes looking for a date
[2015-11-25 13:59:20] zanza : im literally packaging lol
[2015-11-25 13:59:22] ayy lmao : how is hft gonna hft if there is a limit
[2015-11-25 13:59:29] zanza : ayy lmao:
[2015-11-25 13:59:33] zanza : true
[2015-11-25 13:59:43] rapidtrades : zanza: what are u packaging
[2015-11-25 13:59:50] floopfloop : DEEZ NUTZ
[2015-11-25 14:00:03] zanza : rapidtrades: secret, but im short
[2015-11-25 14:00:06] zanza : if thats what u ask
[2015-11-25 14:00:11] zanza : who bought that 20k 7d?
[2015-11-25 14:00:13] rapidtrades : yeah
[2015-11-25 14:00:20] rapidtrades : some tool
[2015-11-25 14:00:27] zanza : i was about to click it
[2015-11-25 14:00:33] zanza : but couldn't muster the courage
[2015-11-25 14:00:47] rapidtrades : good call
[2015-11-25 14:00:49] habibi : it went at 330 then same order excecuted at 333
[2015-11-25 14:02:09] zanza : my best trade ever here, was a liquidation I think, spot was like 510
[2015-11-25 14:02:17] zanza : i got a 7D 35k short
[2015-11-25 14:02:19] rapidtrades : wat
[2015-11-25 14:02:39] rapidtrades : 510?
[2015-11-25 14:02:43] zanza : i bought someone elses liquidation
[2015-11-25 14:02:48] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2015-11-25 14:03:00] zanza : rapidtrades: you need to read the contract to know
[2015-11-25 14:03:09] j8 : lol
[2015-11-25 14:03:10] zanza : what these complicated terms mean
[2015-11-25 14:03:27] rapidtrades : zanza: don't start with that...just gonna rile old flipper up again
[2015-11-25 14:03:48] zanza : you kind of ask for it with your replies
[2015-11-25 14:03:53] zanza : "wat"
[2015-11-25 14:03:59] rapidtrades : U SAID 510
[2015-11-25 14:04:08] zanza : yeah it was the peak
[2015-11-25 14:04:08] rapidtrades : how is that not warworthy
[2015-11-25 14:04:13] rapidtrades : wat-worthy*
[2015-11-25 14:04:25] rapidtrades : how the fuck is 510 the peak
[2015-11-25 14:04:27] zanza : i guess, i happen to wake up like 20 minutes after the jump to 510
[2015-11-25 14:04:41] zanza : but, im at a LOSS overall
[2015-11-25 14:04:42] rapidtrades : zanza: are u talking about different time
[2015-11-25 14:04:43] zanza : for trading here
[2015-11-25 14:05:19] rapidtrades : zanza: are u serious...
[2015-11-25 14:05:36] rapidtrades : man if u're gonna tell a story u start with : this one time
[2015-11-25 14:05:36] zanza : I don't know what you are trying to say @rapidtrades
[2015-11-25 14:05:42] rapidtrades : or ''once upon a time''
[2015-11-25 14:05:50] j8 : he said my best trade ever
[2015-11-25 14:06:03] rapidtrades : cos ur confusing everyone...maybe it's just me
[2015-11-25 14:06:12] j8 : yes, just you
[2015-11-25 14:06:26] zanza : ok, long story short, i got my ass handed to me from 250-510. But made 1 good trade from 510 - 430
[2015-11-25 14:06:37] zanza : which PARTIALLY made back losses
[2015-11-25 14:06:41] rapidtrades : zanza: ok
[2015-11-25 14:06:51] SnackyCoins : lol you shorted that whole rally
[2015-11-25 14:06:51] j8 : zanza: are you up in USD value at least
[2015-11-25 14:07:00] rapidtrades : j8: he's not
[2015-11-25 14:07:00] zanza : lol no @j8
[2015-11-25 14:07:04] SnackyCoins : i have all your money 8)
[2015-11-25 14:07:18] zanza : SnackyCoins: probably
[2015-11-25 14:07:20] rapidtrades : I have some of ur money too lol...I didn't long here tho
[2015-11-25 14:07:30] j8 : i might have a little bit of it too :)
[2015-11-25 14:07:37] zanza : well, good job
[2015-11-25 14:07:38] rapidtrades : lol rapped
[2015-11-25 14:07:38] j8 : its a small world here
[2015-11-25 14:07:42] laisee : i got some 2
[2015-11-25 14:07:48] rapidtrades : hahahahaha
[2015-11-25 14:07:51] zanza : some guy bought a car
[2015-11-25 14:07:58] zanza : he posted in chat
[2015-11-25 14:08:03] SnackyCoins : i considered paying mine off
[2015-11-25 14:08:11] rapidtrades : zanza: dam...what car
[2015-11-25 14:08:16] j8 : paying off my student loan from that rally.
[2015-11-25 14:08:37] rapidtrades : zanza: why did u stay short?
[2015-11-25 14:08:41] zanza : that was back when murch posted
[2015-11-25 14:08:55] zanza : rapidtrades: because I didn't understand how things worked here fully
[2015-11-25 14:09:07] SnackyCoins : hopefully you figured it out now 8)
[2015-11-25 14:09:09] zanza : never traded quantos before
[2015-11-25 14:09:16] rapidtrades : zanza: collecting premium or?
[2015-11-25 14:09:26] zanza : SnackyCoins: i know how to cut losses at least and reduce exposure
[2015-11-25 14:09:26] rapidtrades : what were u doing short
[2015-11-25 14:09:44] laisee : expene$ive le$$on
[2015-11-25 14:09:47] SnackyCoins : to be fair that entire rally was made of double tops
[2015-11-25 14:09:48] zanza : i dont want to give out too much details
[2015-11-25 14:10:04] rapidtrades : zanza: oh pls share ur losing strategy with us
[2015-11-25 14:10:06] j8 : shorting the $10 premium then it goes to $20, $50...
[2015-11-25 14:10:07] zanza : i could take a screenshot now that would make yall cringe
[2015-11-25 14:10:19] zanza : maybe for lulz one day
[2015-11-25 14:10:36] rapidtrades : zanza: were u market making?
[2015-11-25 14:11:02] SnackyCoins : zanza are you on the whaleclub teamspeak :)
[2015-11-25 14:11:24] zanza : i used to go on there, but some trolls
[2015-11-25 14:11:44] zanza : who were moderators made me unwelcome
[2015-11-25 14:11:44] rapidtrades : zanza: shorting at 510 was stupid too btw...u just got lucky
[2015-11-25 14:11:53] zanza : rapidtrades: basically i went all in
[2015-11-25 14:11:58] SnackyCoins : heh my bookmark for it is called trollclub, and i am not the only one
[2015-11-25 14:12:06] rapidtrades : zanza: don't lose ur cool bro
[2015-11-25 14:12:09] zanza : was like :"giving up bitcoin for good if this fails"
[2015-11-25 14:12:18] zanza : "joining Military"
[2015-11-25 14:12:24] rapidtrades : zanza: haha
[2015-11-25 14:12:31] zanza : i dont play much leverage anymore
[2015-11-25 14:12:51] rapidtrades : zanza: well glad it worked out but yeah, don't risk it all on one trade, that was stupid
[2015-11-25 14:13:03] SnackyCoins : maybe some luck to it but if you were watching lower timeframes at the 510 top you could see the disruption
[2015-11-25 14:13:16] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: it's the size that's the problem
[2015-11-25 14:13:23] SnackyCoins : random candles gapping around, $20 each
[2015-11-25 14:13:31] SnackyCoins : nobody was left there
[2015-11-25 14:13:43] zanza : SnackyCoins: there was $65 premium on the 24H
[2015-11-25 14:13:45] rapidtrades : if he lost 5% from 240 to 510, its no big deal
[2015-11-25 14:13:46] SnackyCoins : all the liquidity was gone
[2015-11-25 14:13:54] SnackyCoins : yeah the premium was full retard
[2015-11-25 14:14:00] SnackyCoins : all the signs were there basically
[2015-11-25 14:14:04] zanza : was like 3600% fair basis
[2015-11-25 14:14:07] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: dam I would've shorted too prolly lol
[2015-11-25 14:14:20] zanza : $65 on the 24H
[2015-11-25 14:14:25] j8 : $555 at the peak that day and it settled at like $385
[2015-11-25 14:14:56] zanza : i think you can look back on the chart for the 24H it should show
[2015-11-25 14:15:02] zanza : nov 7?
[2015-11-25 14:15:03] rapidtrades : zanza: I would've done it at much smaller size tho...good thing u learned ur lesson re:leverage
[2015-11-25 14:15:22] zanza : rapidtrades: ya
[2015-11-25 14:15:39] zanza : it was up to $560 premium you can on the 24H
[2015-11-25 14:15:46] zanza : $560 total i mean
[2015-11-25 14:15:58] zanza : trading at like $500
[2015-11-25 14:16:44] zanza : having sites to short brings healthy market, when GOX ran up, was there any shorting sites?
[2015-11-25 14:16:50] rapidtrades : yep see it, topped out at 558
[2015-11-25 14:17:03] rapidtrades : zanza: not much just bitfinex
[2015-11-25 14:17:28] rapidtrades : okcoin futures maybe too but they weren't rly popular back then
[2015-11-25 14:17:41] SnackyCoins : there were no futures then
[2015-11-25 14:17:42] zanza : no woodchipper is 2014
[2015-11-25 14:17:49] rapidtrades : zanza: ah right
[2015-11-25 14:17:56] rapidtrades : u mean the rally to 1k?
[2015-11-25 14:18:11] zanza : 1.2 , whatever
[2015-11-25 14:18:17] rapidtrades : dam it was 2 years ago...time flies
[2015-11-25 14:18:52] rapidtrades : u could short on btc-e too
[2015-11-25 14:19:04] rapidtrades : on mt4
[2015-11-25 14:20:13] podizzler3k_ : uh oh
[2015-11-25 14:20:20] podizzler3k_ : pump is deflating
[2015-11-25 14:20:24] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: :)
[2015-11-25 14:21:32] rapidtrades : looks like we might break lower,,,,but don't want to short after this runup
[2015-11-25 14:22:46] zanza : i wonder when people are goign to start manipulating the 24H here
[2015-11-25 14:23:04] zanza : this pump today was like eactly at 30 min pre
[2015-11-25 14:23:07] zanza : expiry
[2015-11-25 14:23:15] zanza : possibly suspicious
[2015-11-25 14:23:27] rapidtrades : zanza: it started on china tho
[2015-11-25 14:23:37] zanza : yeah, pump in china, buy here
[2015-11-25 14:23:42] j8 : yeah it is getting to the point where you could probably make something doing that
[2015-11-25 14:23:48] zanza : probably unrelated but,
[2015-11-25 14:24:02] zanza : not outside of realm of possibility at sometime in the future
[2015-11-25 14:24:03] rapidtrades : zanza: do u have any idea how much it would take to move the entire bitcoin market?
[2015-11-25 14:24:22] rapidtrades : zanza: trading sizes here are tiny, there's no way it would be worth it
[2015-11-25 14:24:46] rapidtrades : wally earlier said it was 3k for the entire 24 hours
[2015-11-25 14:25:10] rapidtrades : in BTC
[2015-11-25 14:25:21] zanza : ok, lets say someone had 100k contracts here long,, thats 326 XBT, so moving the market 6 points would give 6 BTC profit
[2015-11-25 14:25:24] zanza : ok, yeah thats insane
[2015-11-25 14:25:25] j8 : you could build a position worth several thousand if you wanted. you'd never get out of it until settlement
[2015-11-25 14:26:11] zanza : would be insane to pump the market for 6 BTC gain here
[2015-11-25 14:26:21] j8 : during the rally the daily volume was more like 25,000
[2015-11-25 14:26:21] rapidtrades : zanza: yes
[2015-11-25 14:26:43] TschavaTschigger : market is going pretty crazy again at the moment... me likey likey
[2015-11-25 14:26:47] rapidtrades : j8: during the rally the volume on futures was close to 1 bil total
[2015-11-25 14:27:01] podizzler3k_ : yeah that was nuts volume
[2015-11-25 14:27:08] podizzler3k_ : even more volume than during the run up to $500
[2015-11-25 14:27:15] podizzler3k_ : for that 30 mintues
[2015-11-25 14:27:17] podizzler3k_ : minutes
[2015-11-25 14:27:38] rapidtrades : no I mean during that rally to 500 not now
[2015-11-25 14:28:01] podizzler3k_ : check the okcoin 1hr chart
[2015-11-25 14:28:12] rapidtrades : how much is it
[2015-11-25 14:28:12] podizzler3k_ : the candle from a few hours ago biggest one ever
[2015-11-25 14:28:38] podizzler3k_ : 150k in 30 minutews
[2015-11-25 14:28:42] podizzler3k_ : 200k in 1hr
[2015-11-25 14:28:48] podizzler3k_ : thats on spot cny
[2015-11-25 14:28:52] podizzler3k_ : futures probably way more
[2015-11-25 14:29:05] rapidtrades : during the rally it was 300 mil USD per 24 hours..per contract
[2015-11-25 14:29:11] habibi : volume on 0 fee exchanges means shit
[2015-11-25 14:29:17] rapidtrades : its on futures
[2015-11-25 14:29:25] rapidtrades : there's a fee
[2015-11-25 14:29:29] habibi : yep
[2015-11-25 14:29:34] j8 : divide by two though.
[2015-11-25 14:29:38] zanza : habibi: there is still spread though?
[2015-11-25 14:29:56] rapidtrades : zanza: there is yes
[2015-11-25 14:30:11] zanza : you guys think houb fakes volume?
[2015-11-25 14:30:17] rapidtrades : nope
[2015-11-25 14:30:26] rapidtrades : I never traded there but I doubt it
[2015-11-25 14:31:49] j8 : dunno if they do the wash trading or someone else does it on their exchange, but their volume is definitely greatly exaggerated
[2015-11-25 14:32:03] podizzler3k_ : for sure its them trading to themselves
[2015-11-25 14:32:12] zanza : podizzler3k_: why ?
[2015-11-25 14:32:27] podizzler3k_ : well i guess it doesnt have to be
[2015-11-25 14:32:31] podizzler3k_ : since they have 0 fees i believe
[2015-11-25 14:32:36] podizzler3k_ : no cost to bot play
[2015-11-25 14:33:07] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: yeah they could just be capturing the spread
[2015-11-25 14:33:16] rapidtrades : is it on fees on market orders too?
[2015-11-25 14:33:23] rapidtrades : no fees*
[2015-11-25 14:33:36] j8 : yes, the only fees are for borrowing
[2015-11-25 14:33:45] rapidtrades : ah i see
[2015-11-25 14:33:59] rapidtrades : any USD exchanges with no fees for market orders?
[2015-11-25 14:34:37] j8 : not that i know of
[2015-11-25 14:34:38] habibi : bitstamp in some cases but dont know what are the reqs
[2015-11-25 14:34:47] zanza : https://www.businessvibes.com/blog/Bitcoin-Has-Been-Classified-Commodity-United-States
[2015-11-25 14:35:06] rapidtrades : zanza: old news
[2015-11-25 14:35:28] SnackyCoins : bitstamp will let you trade for free if you fully verify