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[2017-03-29 22:58:50] hmmmYea : even randomly generated prices
[2017-03-29 22:59:00] hmmmYea : you drew a picture on a chart
[2017-03-29 22:59:12] mark121 : Okay, its clear to me now
[2017-03-29 22:59:22] hmmmYea : wait a minute
[2017-03-29 22:59:28] hmmmYea : do you have a time machine?
[2017-03-29 22:59:45] hmmmYea : then know these charts would be VERY valuable
[2017-03-29 22:59:52] mark121 : I imagine a laptop would seem like sorcery to a caveman
[2017-03-29 23:00:02] mark121 : joke :)
[2017-03-29 23:00:23] mark121 : this is a chart I used BEFORE it happened obviously (before the breakout)
[2017-03-29 23:00:51] hmmmYea : you have charts that know the future?
[2017-03-29 23:00:52] mark121 : lets make this easy.. i can be sure that if u put even slight effort into looking for yourself
[2017-03-29 23:00:58] hmmmYea : then i agree
[2017-03-29 23:01:01] hmmmYea : that is the key
[2017-03-29 23:01:22] mark121 : if u want to look at it that way
[2017-03-29 23:01:29] mark121 : than yes
[2017-03-29 23:01:46] hmmmYea : but if you had a chart from the future, why did waste time drawing on it?.
[2017-03-29 23:02:40] hmmmYea : what happens if you're trading changed the chart? have you ever had a butterfly effect situation affect your profitability?:
[2017-03-29 23:02:44] mark121 : sometimes theres only 1 real possibility, other times theres more, but basically proper TA gives you a framework of possibilities
[2017-03-29 23:03:06] mark121 : but thats the point
[2017-03-29 23:03:19] Apocalyptic : Bitmex_Sam: you're around ?
[2017-03-29 23:03:35] BitMEX_Sam : Apocalyptic: Hey, what's up?
[2017-03-29 23:04:13] mark121 : there is no butterfly affect - that is again declaring ur belief in the randomness of markets
[2017-03-29 23:04:22] mark121 : but its been shown over time that markets traded by humans
[2017-03-29 23:04:30] mark121 : due to laws of nature
[2017-03-29 23:05:06] mark121 : act in this manner, its all statistics and proability
[2017-03-29 23:05:08] hmmmYea : but if you have charts future... do they know what your going trade? or do your trades change the charts?
[2017-03-29 23:05:35] mark121 : fractals and the golden rule are found through nature
[2017-03-29 23:05:49] hmmmYea : hahahahahahahah
[2017-03-29 23:05:54] Apocalyptic : Just to let you know that your sample market maker ws-thread module is sometimes reporting executions that did not occur
[2017-03-29 23:05:59] mark121 : i dont trade markets that i move on my own, market caps are too small
[2017-03-29 23:06:16] hmmmYea : you know what else is found in nature?
[2017-03-29 23:06:19] hmmmYea : gophers
[2017-03-29 23:06:22] mark121 : oh boy
[2017-03-29 23:06:27] hmmmYea : but they don't help you trade at all
[2017-03-29 23:06:53] mark121 : im not trying to be a dick, but you now are sounding extremely foolish and superbly ignorant
[2017-03-29 23:07:07] mark121 : a dick lol i meant a cock
[2017-03-29 23:07:13] Apocalyptic : I'm investigating why exactly but it seems to be some edge case in the way you're checking for it lines 262 - 263
[2017-03-29 23:07:27] hmmmYea : i dont understand how something being found in nature makes that thing more likely to be a profitable trading strategy
[2017-03-29 23:07:28] mark121 : honeslty my friend, its all <3
[2017-03-29 23:07:35] mark121 : are we not part of nature
[2017-03-29 23:07:45] mark121 : is math not the universal language?
[2017-03-29 23:08:35] BitMEX_Sam : Apocalyptic: So you're seeing an execution of 0 contracts?
[2017-03-29 23:08:55] hmmmYea : is there a assertion causal relationship coming at some point? or is that the meat of the argument
[2017-03-29 23:09:03] mark121 : oh boy
[2017-03-29 23:09:32] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: last such occurence in the logs is 5 executions of ORDER_START_SIZE at the same second
[2017-03-29 23:09:41] ubba : BREAKING NEWS
[2017-03-29 23:09:42] mark121 : Please dont do that, I know you think it sounds intelligent to do so but it does not apply at al
[2017-03-29 23:09:51] Apocalyptic : which price levels matching the one I was quoting at that moment
[2017-03-29 23:09:58] ubba : kraken got hacked?
[2017-03-29 23:11:16] hmmmYea : mark121: you realize this argument was the basis for the movie pi
[2017-03-29 23:12:08] mark121 : I envy that you get to discover these things for the first time
[2017-03-29 23:12:22] mark121 : it really wil enrich your trading and life in general
[2017-03-29 23:12:57] mark121 : as i was saying, I can guarantee that with the slightest effort you will see validation
[2017-03-29 23:13:05] hmmmYea : i dont think you understand this game
[2017-03-29 23:13:13] mark121 : oh gosh..
[2017-03-29 23:13:17] hmmmYea : markets, not the game of this conversation
[2017-03-29 23:13:48] mark121 : This must be a troll
[2017-03-29 23:14:11] hmmmYea : at this point in history TA is just bait for suckers sold by disingenuous con men
[2017-03-29 23:14:39] mark121 : oh boy
[2017-03-29 23:15:13] mark121 : this has to be a troll.. no1 is that ignorant lol
[2017-03-29 23:15:23] hmmmYea : what planet are you from?
[2017-03-29 23:15:26] mark121 : u got me
[2017-03-29 23:15:45] hmmmYea : show the successful technical analysis empires
[2017-03-29 23:15:55] hmmmYea : they don't exist
[2017-03-29 23:15:57] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: so it looks like updateData['leavesQty'] was 0, although the orders weren't touched, far from it
[2017-03-29 23:16:00] mark121 : thats like saying show the successful breathing empires
[2017-03-29 23:16:01] hmmmYea : why doint they exist?
[2017-03-29 23:16:09] mark121 : they do, there are few that dont
[2017-03-29 23:16:10] hmmmYea : no, its not all
[2017-03-29 23:16:13] hmmmYea : at all
[2017-03-29 23:16:17] mark121 : even algos analyze price and volume
[2017-03-29 23:16:26] hmmmYea : markets exist to serve the needs of customers
[2017-03-29 23:16:39] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: and it occured < 100ms after amending my quotes, so maybe there's a race condition somewhere
[2017-03-29 23:16:45] mark121 : Kk u got me with ur trolling
[2017-03-29 23:17:17] BitMEX_Sam : Will look into it
[2017-03-29 23:17:27] ubba : I will also look into it
[2017-03-29 23:17:29] mark121 : if yu arent trolling, i would seriously seriously suggest self analyze or meditate on the topic
[2017-03-29 23:17:31] hmmmYea : TA is just game played on top of the markets to sell stuff to suckers
[2017-03-29 23:18:02] ubba : MACD is a reliable indicator
[2017-03-29 23:18:07] hmmmYea : some it approaches liquidity providing
[2017-03-29 23:18:10] ubba : well depends what time frame you use it on
[2017-03-29 23:18:15] ubba : like 5 min charts or 1 min
[2017-03-29 23:18:38] mark121 : One line sentences that write-off a vast and confirmed subject make the speaker seem infinitely stupid
[2017-03-29 23:18:52] mark121 : anyhow
[2017-03-29 23:19:00] mark121 : I cannot believe that u arnet joking
[2017-03-29 23:19:05] mark121 : truly i cannot -
[2017-03-29 23:19:06] hmmmYea : ubba: i mean some stuff just tells when there's been a short term imbalance of buyers and sellers. if you want to learn that stuff w/ MACD..ok go for it
[2017-03-29 23:19:21] mark121 : u dont kno wwhat u r talking about
[2017-03-29 23:19:26] mark121 : u need to accept that
[2017-03-29 23:19:30] hmmmYea : confirmed by whom?
[2017-03-29 23:19:45] mark121 : otherwise u will never evolve, or grow
[2017-03-29 23:20:10] mark121 : your attitude is the most dangerous for a trader, insane self assurance in light of fact
[2017-03-29 23:20:23] hmmmYea : mark121: you keep appealing to your authority, but you cant actually make an argument
[2017-03-29 23:20:31] hmmmYea : oddly, like most TA experts
[2017-03-29 23:20:49] mark121 : I think u had a stroke maybe, remember the visual example
[2017-03-29 23:20:59] mark121 : in addition to the arguments, the "meat" as it were
[2017-03-29 23:21:04] hmmmYea : 1 trade doesnt mean anything
[2017-03-29 23:21:08] mark121 : i didnt just give a slice or two, i butched half the damn forest
[2017-03-29 23:21:30] hmmmYea : if it does, it means you are trading enough to know whether you are winning or losing
[2017-03-29 23:21:32] mark121 : You areignorant and unfortunately nothing will change your opinion
[2017-03-29 23:21:35] hmmmYea : you arent*
[2017-03-29 23:23:21] mark121 : tis why u must be trolling, I cannot accept that any fellow human could be so.. thick headed --
[2017-03-29 23:23:56] hmmmYea : you cant trade if you're not open to new ideas
[2017-03-29 23:24:11] hmmmYea : but your ideas are old... not interesting... not even explained all that well
[2017-03-29 23:24:26] mark121 : and no, none of what u say, or cu dsay, would prove yourself correct so save the effort (assuming u rent trolling, but u are) <3 i tried, i think il go to heaven from my patience for a fellow man
[2017-03-29 23:24:27] hmmmYea : i could do a better job playing devil's advocate, tbh
[2017-03-29 23:24:55] mark121 : May I ask how old you are?
[2017-03-29 23:25:02] hmmmYea : what am i trying to prove? i just asked you if you had any evidence for your claim
[2017-03-29 23:25:24] hmmmYea : and its been some nonsense about golden means and fractals and pi and astrological signs
[2017-03-29 23:25:42] hmmmYea : dont give out personal info in trollboxes
[2017-03-29 23:25:47] mark121 : Are you a slug?
[2017-03-29 23:25:52] mark121 : Look into it
[2017-03-29 23:25:56] mark121 : Ive given u more than enuf
[2017-03-29 23:26:06] hmmmYea : you gave one drawing on a chart
[2017-03-29 23:26:09] mark121 : Alas, you are the gatekeeper to rationality
[2017-03-29 23:26:14] hmmmYea : what could tha possibility prove?
[2017-03-29 23:26:35] mark121 : In person maybe id try to beat it into you, in a group ud be so riduculed that ud likely accept ur error
[2017-03-29 23:26:46] mark121 : but here on the internet
[2017-03-29 23:26:58] mark121 : I cannot penetrate the veil of ignorance
[2017-03-29 23:27:00] BitMEX_Sam : Apocalyptic: I've pushed an update that should fix the spurious logging
[2017-03-29 23:27:51] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: that was blazing fast, thanks
[2017-03-29 23:27:55] hmmmYea : just try using evidence
[2017-03-29 23:28:00] hmmmYea : you may have more success
[2017-03-29 23:28:02] Apocalyptic : will let you know if it fixes the issue
[2017-03-29 23:28:13] hmmmYea : rather than appealing to your status as a guru
[2017-03-29 23:28:32] mark121 : hehe
[2017-03-29 23:28:47] mark121 : I did my part, the choice is yours young padawan <3
[2017-03-29 23:30:03] hmmmYea : i think wheelchairjuice is crazy, but i at least respect his position on you
[2017-03-29 23:31:24] frog : i think book has had major impact on hmmmyea thinking
[2017-03-29 23:31:39] mark121 : Heh, I have given more credence to your idiocy than 99% would, I gave u effort and time -
[2017-03-29 23:32:27] hmmmYea : nice, a dear john letter
[2017-03-29 23:32:39] hmmmYea : thats cute
[2017-03-29 23:33:17] mark121 : You re a lost cause and until now, I had never encountered someone as foolish and ignorant - I hope you are under 18
[2017-03-29 23:33:26] mark121 : eventhat isnt an excuse
[2017-03-29 23:33:36] mark121 : I take it back, sorry to anyone under 18
[2017-03-29 23:35:12] frog : does anyone believe markets are random?
[2017-03-29 23:35:23] mark121 : Not only only that, but I actually gave u the time, I believed in you and you completely missed the mark -- one day you will shudder when you tihnk of this (i hope)
[2017-03-29 23:35:27] mark121 : i think he does
[2017-03-29 23:35:33] mark121 : "butterfly effect"
[2017-03-29 23:35:35] mark121 : LOL
[2017-03-29 23:35:35] frog : and he trade crypto
[2017-03-29 23:35:57] mark121 : yet laughsoff fractals and the golden ratio
[2017-03-29 23:36:08] hmmmYea : ok 1. i wouldnt be trading if i thought markets were random. 2. the butterfly effect refers to a chaotic system not a random one
[2017-03-29 23:36:10] mark121 : ancient humans understood the golden ratio
[2017-03-29 23:36:14] hmmmYea : 2.*
[2017-03-29 23:36:32] hmmmYea : oh thats sound germane
[2017-03-29 23:36:37] frog : markets not random
[2017-03-29 23:36:47] mark121 : How old are you?
[2017-03-29 23:36:50] mark121 : please be honesyt
[2017-03-29 23:36:53] hmmmYea : you still need to explain the gopher paradox
[2017-03-29 23:36:59] frog : but can appear random
[2017-03-29 23:37:02] mark121 : nothing can be explained to you
[2017-03-29 23:37:15] hmmmYea : gophers are found in nature, but not useful for trading
[2017-03-29 23:37:19] hmmmYea : how is that possible?
[2017-03-29 23:37:52] mark121 : that is correct, beacuse tey are furry roden like mammals - fractals and golden ratio on the other hand can be expressed numerically
[2017-03-29 23:38:03] mark121 : boom
[2017-03-29 23:38:05] frog : if trading small animals knowledge of gophner popularion may be useful
[2017-03-29 23:38:12] mark121 : and yet somehow u wil not understand my answer llol
[2017-03-29 23:38:36] mark121 : LOL
[2017-03-29 23:38:40] mark121 : <3
[2017-03-29 23:39:57] mark121 : i think that was the checkmate even tho there was never two sides to this debate
[2017-03-29 23:40:11] mark121 : dinnertime
[2017-03-29 23:41:57] frog : i think time to toss a coin and decide my next trade
[2017-03-29 23:44:32] mark121 : olol
[2017-03-29 23:46:30] frog : i think there shuold be a follow up book when apparaent randomness is not rally random
[2017-03-29 23:46:37] frog : but would need better title
[2017-03-29 23:47:16] mark121 : "The Dangers of Trading Near Butterflies"
[2017-03-29 23:48:53] frog : imo markets operate as the sum of many discrete 2 player games
[2017-03-29 23:49:56] mark121 : A Non-Critical Thinkers guide to Tornadoes, Paper Shredders, Small Mammals and Markets: Trick Question their all the same thing"
[2017-03-29 23:50:07] mark121 : Too wordy
[2017-03-29 23:50:26] frog : tornados is good
[2017-03-29 23:51:09] mark121 : i like it., simple and direct
[2017-03-29 23:52:28] frog : with markets such as bitcoin there appears to be co-operation between some of the players which can be effectivley described as manipulation
[2017-03-29 23:54:33] frog : im interested in finding situations where co-operation is likely
[2017-03-29 23:54:45] frog : and tailing it
[2017-03-29 23:55:10] mark121 : it may simply havebeen a set of conditions agreed upon once and thus elimates the need for any more collusion cooperation or cooridnation
[2017-03-29 23:55:40] frog : maybe planned, agreed or tacit
[2017-03-29 23:56:06] mark121 : when the first apple on the tree rots, dump your apples on to the market
[2017-03-29 23:57:28] mark121 : altho it wud assume a communcal apple tree that all big apple sellers are able to see at the same time :P
[2017-03-29 23:57:33] frog : my view is money flows from whales and retail traders to larger players
[2017-03-29 23:57:52] mark121 : whales are the bigger players
[2017-03-29 23:57:54] frog : or a bat signal type arrangement
[2017-03-29 23:57:58] mark121 : well least in my mind
[2017-03-29 23:58:12] mark121 : obviousl u have minke whales
[2017-03-29 23:58:16] mark121 : and then u have blue wales
[2017-03-29 23:58:18] frog : im not sure of correct jargon
[2017-03-29 23:58:27] frog : but larger gambler types
[2017-03-29 23:59:08] mark121 : Aye, potential institutions altho there isnt much diference in crypto as some people who got in early would still have more than even institutions who got in super late
[2017-03-30 00:01:18] frog : there are way more people with long interest than short but there is a lot I don;t know thats for sure
[2017-03-30 00:01:53] frog : but market moves in absence of news
[2017-03-30 00:07:17] ubba : BREAKING NEWS
[2017-03-30 00:07:18] ubba : I REPEAT
[2017-03-30 00:07:22] ubba : BREAKING NEWS
[2017-03-30 00:07:29] mark121 : loool
[2017-03-30 00:07:53] frog : except for ubba's regular announcments
[2017-03-30 00:08:10] mark121 : ubba's back, back again
[2017-03-30 00:08:50] ubba : yep
[2017-03-30 00:11:17] ubba : LPT: increase the leverage to 100x to make more money
[2017-03-30 00:12:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 1047.05
[2017-03-30 00:15:01] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: running your update, it just happened twice again, always just after a bulk amending
[2017-03-30 00:15:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5500 @ 1051.23
[2017-03-30 00:15:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 50 @ 0.049680
[2017-03-30 00:15:57] Apocalyptic : what may be relevant is that the price reported in the execution line is the old price of all orders before amending
[2017-03-30 00:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 5 @ 0.049380
[2017-03-30 00:19:13] Apocalyptic : it happens just after a legitimate fill and a new order is created as well
[2017-03-30 00:22:31] mark121 : buy ETHnow
[2017-03-30 00:22:44] mark121 : lat chance at this price
[2017-03-30 00:22:45] thxforyourbtc! : People will realize a month or so from now how stupid it was buying these alts lol. BTC will be at new highs
[2017-03-30 00:22:48] mark121 : may b*
[2017-03-30 00:22:52] Rado : mark121: ha ha
[2017-03-30 00:23:00] Rado : last chance at this price is right
[2017-03-30 00:23:04] Rado : lower prices coming
[2017-03-30 00:23:23] mark121 : Hehe, I guess i infact read the chart correct
[2017-03-30 00:23:24] thxforyourbtc! : Rado: lmao indeed
[2017-03-30 00:23:55] mark121 : as it was near your entry again
[2017-03-30 00:24:00] mark121 : u cud have closed and reopened
[2017-03-30 00:24:15] mark121 : Rado, are you MM for eth?
[2017-03-30 00:24:17] Rado : true
[2017-03-30 00:24:22] Rado : no
[2017-03-30 00:24:27] mark121 : ah
[2017-03-30 00:24:57] thxforyourbtc! : All in alts?
[2017-03-30 00:27:23] mark121 : heh rado is ur short open still?
[2017-03-30 00:28:01] mark121 : there cud be no more, max 1 more little dip but wont make ur target
[2017-03-30 00:28:16] billyboy4022 : any one know how to remove all the "CLEAR" button on my active order so they never show
[2017-03-30 00:28:22] mark121 : (i say in a helpful spirit heeh )
[2017-03-30 00:29:18] mark121 : but if u plan to hold the pos for a while thats diff
[2017-03-30 00:39:41] herpinator : dam I love listening to ghost he is so funny
[2017-03-30 00:39:51] herpinator : anyone else here listen to ghost?
[2017-03-30 00:40:42] herpinator : Rado: please tell me you took profit, I hit my target and did good on that
[2017-03-30 00:41:00] rapidgains : ghost?
[2017-03-30 00:41:22] herpinator : rapidgains: yeh you'd enjoy him I think hes so funny
[2017-03-30 00:41:27] herpinator : http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ghost/2017/03/23/true-capitalist-radio-hosted-by-ghost--episode-476
[2017-03-30 00:41:52] foobar : wow, 3 days of negative funding rate
[2017-03-30 00:41:55] herpinator : the way he says nasdaq cracks me up
[2017-03-30 00:45:23] thxforyourbtc! : foobar: always like that before a big runup
[2017-03-30 00:46:12] jezeus : whats up with the XBTUSD orderbook?
[2017-03-30 00:46:25] jezeus : trades are 1047 but buy/sell are 1051
[2017-03-30 00:48:44] rapidgains : refresh
[2017-03-30 00:51:05] Rado : herpinator: i closed 1011
[2017-03-30 00:51:13] Rado : opened a long at 1016
[2017-03-30 00:51:16] herpinator : Rado: gj
[2017-03-30 00:51:42] herpinator : Rado: I made too much after that so I didn't make another trade but I saw that entry point too!
[2017-03-30 00:52:32] herpinator : Rado: what did you close the long at?
[2017-03-30 00:52:39] herpinator : if you dont mind me asking
[2017-03-30 00:52:50] ubba : i closed it at 1050
[2017-03-30 00:54:02] herpinator : Rado: = @ubba ?
[2017-03-30 00:54:11] ubba : oh fuck wrong account
[2017-03-30 00:54:18] herpinator : ubba: wew
[2017-03-30 00:54:22] herpinator : we know your secret now
[2017-03-30 00:57:08] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/xNT2CcLjhbI0U/giphy.gif
[2017-03-30 00:57:20] herpinator : lol
[2017-03-30 00:57:49] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/GpUeJjdxvTIek/giphy.gif
[2017-03-30 01:00:04] ubba : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whScRekesJ4
[2017-03-30 01:00:07] ubba : what did he mean by this?
[2017-03-30 01:04:55] aguia7 : XD XD XD KKKKKKKKKKKK HAHAHA
[2017-03-30 01:05:28] aguia7 : sAved link XD
[2017-03-30 01:05:38] aguia7 : GOOD for point bulls
[2017-03-30 01:06:27] thxforyourbtc! : short mega rekts incoming!!
[2017-03-30 01:07:02] thxforyourbtc! : and long mega mega rekts incoming in the alts
[2017-03-30 01:09:12] hh : Buy RIPPLE!
[2017-03-30 01:15:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 970 @ 0.004160
[2017-03-30 01:29:24] foobar : so, why buy the june future when the swap has negative funding
[2017-03-30 01:29:37] foobar : and the premium on the future keeps increasing
[2017-03-30 01:29:39] foobar : i don't understand
[2017-03-30 01:37:14] \//\ : you buy june on the dips when premium drops
[2017-03-30 01:37:25] \//\ : then when price bounces you get extra $10 on the bounce
[2017-03-30 01:37:51] \//\ : or short the june premium and when it dumps well if it dumps then you get extra $15-$20 or more on the dump depending how low it goes
[2017-03-30 01:37:59] \//\ : just a chance to make a bit more money on the swings
[2017-03-30 01:43:26] thxforyourbtc! : bitcoin about to rip huge
[2017-03-30 02:02:17] ubba : BREAKING NEWS
[2017-03-30 02:02:33] ubba : pboc banned bitcoin
[2017-03-30 02:03:52] herpinator : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/252834287024
[2017-03-30 02:07:17] herpinator : http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60625
[2017-03-30 02:07:20] herpinator : thats creepy
[2017-03-30 02:07:49] herpinator : a thread from 2000 talking about what if a big plane hit the twin towers
[2017-03-30 02:11:12] ubba : i saw a thread talking about bitcoin in 2001
[2017-03-30 02:11:24] ubba : thats even more creepy
[2017-03-30 02:11:35] mark121 : i heard about a plan to crash bitcoin into the world trade center back in 98'
[2017-03-30 02:11:57] ubba : shit wake up people
[2017-03-30 02:12:13] mark121 : i heard about breaking news even earlier
[2017-03-30 02:12:22] ubba : was bitcoin an inside job?
[2017-03-30 02:12:31] mark121 : Quite likely
[2017-03-30 02:12:42] ubba : investigate bitcoin
[2017-03-30 02:12:43] herpinator : yes
[2017-03-30 02:12:44] mark121 : They say every floor was rigged with shitcoins..
[2017-03-30 02:13:25] ubba : controlled collapse
[2017-03-30 02:13:56] ubba : the candle stick fell at freefall speed
[2017-03-30 02:14:04] mark121 : Crypto-controlled collapse
[2017-03-30 02:14:19] mark121 : I recall the fascination wit the triple C
[2017-03-30 02:15:31] mark121 : much like theory that both buildings and all planes were filled with corrugated cardboard cutouts
[2017-03-30 02:16:26] ubba : mark121: what?
[2017-03-30 02:16:41] mark121 : They shipped all the board to China on a one way boat...
[2017-03-30 02:17:23] ubba : not sure i get you
[2017-03-30 02:17:26] mark121 : Registered under the name "Ching Chong Cardboard" - I mean its eerie
[2017-03-30 02:17:29] ubba : can you give me a quick update?
[2017-03-30 02:17:56] mark121 : Sure, go to windows, update and turn on "Automatic Updates
[2017-03-30 02:18:27] mark121 : Hows that ?
[2017-03-30 02:18:44] ubba : good one ill write that in my notes
[2017-03-30 02:19:41] mark121 : Be sure to laminate incase you spill
[2017-03-30 02:20:39] ubba : BREAKING NEWS
[2017-03-30 02:20:48] ubba : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/846656291233656833
[2017-03-30 02:20:55] ubba : bitcoin trading halted
[2017-03-30 02:39:58] mark121 : Breaking News
[2017-03-30 02:40:27] mark121 : This just in!
[2017-03-30 02:40:56] mark121 : A cast may take time, but it will certainly fix a broken leg
[2017-03-30 02:43:53] mark121 : Scientists have long thought a cast around the heart could speed up the recovery of a broken heart, unfortunately all 25 of the Phase 1 clininal trial patients died almost immediately upon receiving the cast...
[2017-03-30 02:44:17] mark121 : See you next time... on BREAKING NEWS!
[2017-03-30 03:20:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 22147 @ 1040.90
[2017-03-30 03:20:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 1039.57
[2017-03-30 03:20:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5001 @ 1037.30
[2017-03-30 03:20:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7000 @ 1037.44
[2017-03-30 03:21:24] Speran49 : wtf is going on lol
[2017-03-30 03:23:45] thxforyourbtc! : Speran49: dont know but im going all in short
[2017-03-30 03:24:09] Speran49 : been short since 1045, but added as soon as i sawa the drop
[2017-03-30 03:24:27] Speran49 : holding now since it broke the triangle its been building all day. It needs to hold down here to confirm
[2017-03-30 03:24:38] thxforyourbtc! : short from the 1050s
[2017-03-30 03:24:55] Speran49 : chart?
[2017-03-30 03:28:31] Speran49 : /sentiment
[2017-03-30 03:28:34] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 46.05 / 53.95 Daily : 44.93 / 55.08 Weekly : 49.77 / 50.23 Monthly : 52.27 / 47.73```
[2017-03-30 03:31:27] Speran49 : and recovery
[2017-03-30 03:31:32] Speran49 : range bound markets are annoying
[2017-03-30 03:37:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 800 @ 1041.76
[2017-03-30 03:42:29] luric : https://twitter.com/luricrosales/status/847291913031925760
[2017-03-30 03:43:09] frog : short now
[2017-03-30 03:44:24] thxforyourbtc! : been short since yesterday
[2017-03-30 03:45:34] frog : thxforyourbtc!: whats your target?
[2017-03-30 03:46:25] thxforyourbtc! : 950
[2017-03-30 03:47:12] Speran49 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/oSoCNNLN/
[2017-03-30 03:47:14] Speran49 : same
[2017-03-30 03:47:16] Speran49 : lol
[2017-03-30 03:47:18] Speran49 : how funny
[2017-03-30 03:47:29] Speran49 : 950 is the nearly 2 year btc trendline
[2017-03-30 03:47:40] luric : I'm shorting too, we do for a big drop
[2017-03-30 03:47:51] Speran49 : hmm everyone here is short :|
[2017-03-30 03:47:55] Speran49 : thats never good
[2017-03-30 03:50:25] tb : im super long
[2017-03-30 03:50:27] tb : hope it goes to 2k
[2017-03-30 03:50:50] tb : all we need is similar action to eth
[2017-03-30 03:50:51] tb : or dash
[2017-03-30 03:51:09] frog : @Speran49 lot of lines on your chart
[2017-03-30 03:51:30] Speran49 : lots of patterns to see
[2017-03-30 03:51:36] luric : if it breaks 160, then I'm going long
[2017-03-30 03:51:41] frog : does my head in
[2017-03-30 03:51:53] Speran49 : ;)
[2017-03-30 03:51:59] luric : 1060
[2017-03-30 03:52:05] Speran49 : this smells mad fishy to me
[2017-03-30 03:52:13] Speran49 : i feel like we need a 10-20 pt pop up
[2017-03-30 03:52:14] Speran49 : then rop
[2017-03-30 03:52:16] Speran49 : drop*
[2017-03-30 03:52:22] Speran49 : but everything is pointing to bear for me
[2017-03-30 03:52:24] Speran49 : so my hands are tied
[2017-03-30 03:52:48] frog : ill add if it pops 20
[2017-03-30 03:53:11] Speran49 : yes but think
[2017-03-30 03:53:13] Speran49 : why run long stops
[2017-03-30 03:53:17] Speran49 : if you're going to take it down?
[2017-03-30 03:53:26] Speran49 : wouldnt you run short stops instead?
[2017-03-30 03:53:31] DorianWhack-A-Moto : markets are always fishy. when you say walls up and pulled you know somethings gonna happen.
[2017-03-30 03:53:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : *see
[2017-03-30 03:53:59] Speran49 : order book just confuses me. I pay it no attention.
[2017-03-30 03:54:37] DorianWhack-A-Moto : only the trade book counts watch that and you know whats real
[2017-03-30 03:54:54] Speran49 : okay but how do you read it lool
[2017-03-30 03:55:01] Speran49 : like what is red vs red with down arrorw
[2017-03-30 03:55:06] Speran49 : or red with green arrow
[2017-03-30 03:55:19] thxforyourbtc! : all that is bs. Just short and add on rallies...profit
[2017-03-30 03:55:47] thxforyourbtc! : for the time being
[2017-03-30 03:58:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : everything is bs. just yolo 100x everything
[2017-03-30 03:59:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Speran49: red sell, green buy. arrows idk?
[2017-03-30 04:00:29] frog : Speran49: i don't like stops i think they cost you more than they save
[2017-03-30 04:08:40] BitMEX_John : @Speran49 @DorianWhack-A-Moto if there is no arrow the price is unchanged
[2017-03-30 04:09:54] BitMEX_John : @Speran49 @DorianWhack-A-Moto red entries are a sell, green entries are a buy and the arrow colour refers to whether the price is higher or lower than the last trade
[2017-03-30 04:10:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : BitMEX_John: Thanks. that clears it up.
[2017-03-30 04:11:08] luric : I like dash it's on it's support, anyone else?
[2017-03-30 04:11:19] Speran49 : Frog, if you use margin... you always have a stop
[2017-03-30 04:11:31] thxforyourbtc! : luric: yeah i also own lots atm, i like the new contract too
[2017-03-30 04:11:34] frog : i know
[2017-03-30 04:11:49] thxforyourbtc! : luric: right on support
[2017-03-30 04:12:06] luric : Nice
[2017-03-30 04:12:14] luric : we should be good
[2017-03-30 04:12:26] Speran49 : new contract for?
[2017-03-30 04:12:42] thxforyourbtc! : should see a bump over 0.1 soon
[2017-03-30 04:12:52] thxforyourbtc! : dashj17
[2017-03-30 04:12:57] luric : agree
[2017-03-30 04:13:39] Speran49 : dash RSI is bear...
[2017-03-30 04:14:56] Speran49 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/mbFILxlF/
[2017-03-30 04:14:59] Speran49 : yuck :/
[2017-03-30 04:16:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 24100 @ 1036.22
[2017-03-30 04:19:26] DangerandPlay : how far down is dash going to go?
[2017-03-30 04:20:25] thxforyourbtc! : DangerandPlay: we are at bottom
[2017-03-30 04:20:34] aethlios : 1ST blood x5 the icoi price and hasn't published beta yet.
[2017-03-30 04:20:43] aethlios : money is in the alts now.
[2017-03-30 04:20:57] DangerandPlay : thxforyourbtc!: haha. can i quote you on that later?
[2017-03-30 04:21:10] DangerandPlay : i think dash has a loooooong way to fall
[2017-03-30 04:21:34] Speran49 : if btc go down, short term dash should go up
[2017-03-30 04:21:35] Speran49 : but idk
[2017-03-30 04:21:53] Speran49 : but RSI for now say it is bear
[2017-03-30 04:24:26] DangerandPlay : what do y'all think of litecoin?
[2017-03-30 04:24:33] DangerandPlay : i think it still has promise as the silver to bitcoin's gold
[2017-03-30 04:24:39] DangerandPlay : and now signalling segwit
[2017-03-30 04:29:07] luric : litecoin looks good too but prefer not to mess with it, Dash looks more solid to me, will average out if it continues to fall
[2017-03-30 04:30:13] \//\ : F2Pool decides LTC future
[2017-03-30 04:30:28] \//\ : funny how F2Pool is one of the main deciding factors in both coins
[2017-03-30 04:32:29] \//\ : even then the only people that will actually pump LTC or get it started are the ones holding all the LTC
[2017-03-30 04:33:06] \//\ : i'm guessing there isn't much of any sell pressure otherwise they would be giving away millions of coins keeping price this low
[2017-03-30 04:33:26] aethlios : first time in history correlation for btcusd and ltcusd are -0.2 to 0.2, basically uncorrelated.
[2017-03-30 04:34:10] \//\ : and you want to hear a good jobke
[2017-03-30 04:34:12] \//\ : joke*
[2017-03-30 04:34:17] aethlios : it is all about SW for ltc now.
[2017-03-30 04:34:18] \//\ : LTC mined per day $61,776
[2017-03-30 04:34:25] \//\ : volume $10,000,000
[2017-03-30 04:34:33] \//\ : and volume is always high. just doesnt make sense
[2017-03-30 04:35:07] \//\ : 2,265,257 LTC volume in 24 hours
[2017-03-30 04:36:10] \//\ : LTC volume $2,000,000 during slow days
[2017-03-30 04:36:28] Speran49 : btc being a real pita here
[2017-03-30 04:36:33] Speran49 : i want to go to bed...
[2017-03-30 04:38:37] frog : i gotta go out GL all
[2017-03-30 04:52:29] luric : I'm going to sleep, lowering the leverage GL
[2017-03-30 05:04:10] l3f : aethlios: wonder what's the play on btc right now
[2017-03-30 05:04:32] l3f : getting some mixed signals here
[2017-03-30 05:05:52] aethlios : l3f: i send now 25 usd in btc from core with 10 blocks waiting time for confirmation and the fee was 0.27 usd, so 1.1%
[2017-03-30 05:06:28] aethlios : at the highs that fee will need 50 or 100 blocks to wait.
[2017-03-30 05:07:15] l3f : casino at 2% premium on futes
[2017-03-30 05:07:15] l3f : hmmm
[2017-03-30 05:08:07] aethlios : because of fees no solution places a cap in price, bu solution places fear in the multibillion btc asset, so market waits to see how the block size will be solved. But many don't want to wait (for ever maybe) and reinvest in alts.
[2017-03-30 05:08:11] l3f : mex at 1%
[2017-03-30 05:14:17] aethlios : l3f: any info and news what happens in the fork battle background?
[2017-03-30 05:14:44] l3f : aethlios: bitfury has gone segwit
[2017-03-30 05:14:48] l3f : both sides still being retarded
[2017-03-30 05:17:34] Dynamix : Its 6 fucking am here what to trade ?
[2017-03-30 05:17:39] Dynamix : Just woke up...
[2017-03-30 05:18:31] aethlios : time is against btc, delay makes alts take more % of crypto market cap
[2017-03-30 05:27:53] aethlios : LTCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC.
[2017-03-30 05:28:06] DorianWhack-A-Moto : /fork
[2017-03-30 05:28:07] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 866.00 (-0.74%) Bitfinex BCU : 185.53 (5.07%) SLQ : 7 hours, 46 mins```
[2017-03-30 05:29:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : BU at 37%, SEGWIT 29.2%, look like bu supporters dont want those tokens.
[2017-03-30 05:35:42] aethlios : last 24 hours 42.4% bu blocks minded
[2017-03-30 05:36:22] aethlios : i think is almost highest
[2017-03-30 05:37:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : they need to work it out or btc will die
[2017-03-30 05:39:44] aethlios : crypto time is much faster than fiat world. because is a free no gov. interaction market, things move very fast. in one year we can have a much different market. look 1 year back and compare. so btc people maybe have already lost the train, they should have resolved the issue 1 to 2 years ago.
[2017-03-30 05:43:38] Kalman : /joke
[2017-03-30 05:43:39] trollbot : ``` Why do French tanks have a rear-view mirror? So that they can see the battlefield ```
[2017-03-30 06:05:18] aethlios : LTCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC.
[2017-03-30 06:07:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 1 @ 0.004460
[2017-03-30 06:09:02] etoque : man
[2017-03-30 06:14:24] Tetsuo : aethlios: +1
[2017-03-30 06:14:35] Tetsuo : Chickun, you´re sey and you know it!
[2017-03-30 06:14:39] Tetsuo : *sexy
[2017-03-30 06:17:47] aethlios : rapid is short ltc from 4,00
[2017-03-30 06:18:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 200 @ 0.004660
[2017-03-30 06:18:29] Actualiteit : was short
[2017-03-30 06:19:46] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-30 06:19:49] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 60.31 / 39.69 Daily : 46.58 / 53.42 Weekly : 49.76 / 50.24 Monthly : 52.28 / 47.72```
[2017-03-30 06:20:40] Tetsuo : ARISE CHICKUN ARISE!
[2017-03-30 06:22:01] Dnavid : In the next few hours if btc goes up by a bit, eg over 1050-1075, it's moon. But with fundamentals being bad, this won't happen. I expect btc to fall between 9a-3p UTC, back towards $700.
[2017-03-30 06:24:08] longbydefault : too many crazy predictions out here... i predict btc will still be at the same price tomorrow
[2017-03-30 06:24:17] Dnavid : lol
[2017-03-30 06:24:27] KyllingLolsson : i predict that the price will go either up or down
[2017-03-30 06:24:47] aethlios : btc 700-1200 range next hour
[2017-03-30 06:24:59] longbydefault : aethlios: +11
[2017-03-30 06:25:12] Dnavid : aethlios: lol
[2017-03-30 06:25:16] longbydefault : how about a litecoin prediction?
[2017-03-30 06:25:32] Tetsuo : moon-> oort cloud
[2017-03-30 06:26:20] Actualiteit : I btc breaks 1050 we will see 40000 today... but if rsi confirms divergence we shall first retrace to 0,50.
[2017-03-30 06:26:44] longbydefault : haha
[2017-03-30 06:26:58] Ahhere : Actualiteit: seems conservative
[2017-03-30 06:27:13] Actualiteit : yeah I like to keep the crazyness at bay.
[2017-03-30 06:27:27] Dnavid : bets are on! yeah
[2017-03-30 06:27:57] aethlios : you heared about ltc first here *3.80.
[2017-03-30 06:28:41] aethlios : btc-e 5.15
[2017-03-30 06:28:47] aethlios : finex 5,00
[2017-03-30 06:30:00] Ahhere : aethlios: good call
[2017-03-30 06:30:30] etoque : wow
[2017-03-30 06:31:17] arbitrage101 : wow
[2017-03-30 06:31:24] arbitrage101 : even ltc going up
[2017-03-30 06:31:30] arbitrage101 : btc must be in real trouble
[2017-03-30 06:36:38] Dnavid : btc is not really in trouble yet. Once it is alts will be rushing into falling btc to be immediately changed to fiat. Then both alt and btc will fall, but alts harder.
[2017-03-30 06:37:21] etoque : wowwwwwwwwwwww
[2017-03-30 06:37:22] etoque : LTC
[2017-03-30 06:37:26] etoque : 5.5 dollas
[2017-03-30 06:37:50] thomaskikansha : aethlios: ltc finally moves as you said last week
[2017-03-30 06:37:55] rapidtrades : china stuck at 4.56
[2017-03-30 06:38:15] rapidtrades : just dumb westerners buying on margin
[2017-03-30 06:38:15] aethlios : rapidtrades: china can't withdraw, they buy from other exchanges.
[2017-03-30 06:38:23] rapidtrades : shut up idiot
[2017-03-30 06:38:31] rapidtrades : it will fall back down like it always does
[2017-03-30 06:38:36] rapidtrades : get out while u can
[2017-03-30 06:39:46] aethlios : rapidtrades: it will fall from 50 to 35.
[2017-03-30 06:40:17] aethlios : what a pump, let ir ride far and away.......
[2017-03-30 06:41:38] rapidtrades : thats funny cos that time it fell from 50 to 2
[2017-03-30 06:42:25] rapidtrades : u have to be braindead to look at that hourly bar and not sell here
[2017-03-30 06:42:53] rapidtrades : up 17% in 40mins ffs
[2017-03-30 06:43:19] rangle : did you see the move on bitcoin plus?
[2017-03-30 06:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.005100
[2017-03-30 06:46:20] Tetsuo : cryptowat.ch has to be the worst performing crypto chart site. It´s often lagging like 5s or more
[2017-03-30 06:46:58] Actualiteit : it worked fine before krakenshit
[2017-03-30 06:47:04] Actualiteit : for me at least
[2017-03-30 06:47:48] aethlios : ltc 50 usd late 2018, with SW LN confidential txs
[2017-03-30 06:48:31] rapidtrades : thats funny with LTC segwit at all time low
[2017-03-30 06:48:33] rapidtrades : 22%
[2017-03-30 06:50:40] aethlios : rapidtrades: top 2 pools if signal will jump to 75%, maybe insidrs know this will happen next days.
[2017-03-30 06:51:01] rangle : there was no reason for ripple to double, but it did anyways also