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[2017-03-29 12:05:54] mark121 : and 46 is only possible if u accept the fomo rally to .07
[2017-03-29 12:06:04] mark121 : several days ago
[2017-03-29 12:06:30] mark121 : otherwise this wud have been the lower limit assuming all the past progress wasnt for nothing
[2017-03-29 12:07:07] Actualiteit : I guess
[2017-03-29 12:07:20] Actualiteit : well if i can trade the range here for a while im a happy man
[2017-03-29 12:07:29] jayesh : frog: 30 mins ago
[2017-03-29 12:08:04] Rado : Actualiteit: 45 is very close
[2017-03-29 12:08:16] mark121 : not really
[2017-03-29 12:08:21] Rado : you will be surprised how fast will come
[2017-03-29 12:08:27] Actualiteit : close but at the same time really, really far away
[2017-03-29 12:08:30] Actualiteit : atm
[2017-03-29 12:08:37] Rado : not really
[2017-03-29 12:08:44] mark121 : 45 is 20 x further than 46
[2017-03-29 12:08:48] mark121 : if not 100x
[2017-03-29 12:08:48] Rado : ine big seller and we are there in an hour
[2017-03-29 12:09:10] Rado : I will cover under 0.045
[2017-03-29 12:09:23] Rado : my short from 0.052 today
[2017-03-29 12:09:26] mark121 : good luck onthat
[2017-03-29 12:09:30] KingTuna : ETH is holding very well at these prices. Mark you were right, didn't dip below 0.048 on polo
[2017-03-29 12:09:37] Rado : No need of luck
[2017-03-29 12:09:44] mark121 : yes rado
[2017-03-29 12:10:08] Rado : It's just a matter of time
[2017-03-29 12:10:11] mark121 : KingTuna: ya :)
[2017-03-29 12:10:16] KingTuna : Rado: You shorted 0.052.. Well done, perhaps take some profits, why not
[2017-03-29 12:10:20] Rado : a few days at the most
[2017-03-29 12:10:21] KingTuna : Well that is just me
[2017-03-29 12:10:29] mark121 : rado if btc drops
[2017-03-29 12:10:38] mark121 : we wont see 40's again for a while
[2017-03-29 12:10:48] mark121 : even it doesnt, there is support
[2017-03-29 12:11:06] mark121 : below 45 is just being greedy
[2017-03-29 12:11:12] mark121 : and (reckless)
[2017-03-29 12:11:45] Rado : mark121: ETH is not always reverse if BTc
[2017-03-29 12:11:54] Rado : they could both fall
[2017-03-29 12:11:59] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-29 12:12:14] mark121 : super unlikely
[2017-03-29 12:12:24] KingTuna : mark121: Are you expecting $60.. Or up to 0.06 ?
[2017-03-29 12:12:37] Rado : mark121: you are new to this?
[2017-03-29 12:12:49] mark121 : Rado: im wondering that about yourself.
[2017-03-29 12:12:51] Rado : check the charts
[2017-03-29 12:13:01] Rado : It's not hard
[2017-03-29 12:13:03] mark121 : thats what i was going to say to u
[2017-03-29 12:13:07] Actualiteit : lmao
[2017-03-29 12:13:24] mark121 : u seem to not understand basic principles of support and resistance
[2017-03-29 12:13:33] mark121 : and if ur raelly betting on both dropping
[2017-03-29 12:13:41] mark121 : u betting on the least likely scenario
[2017-03-29 12:13:42] Rado : mark121: read my lips - there is no direct correlation between BTC price and ETH price
[2017-03-29 12:13:50] mark121 : LOL
[2017-03-29 12:13:52] Rado : if you think there is you are stupid
[2017-03-29 12:13:54] KingTuna : For example now. BTC is steady after that rally and now ETH is gaining ground again
[2017-03-29 12:13:57] mark121 : oh boy rado
[2017-03-29 12:14:05] mark121 : ignorance is bliss
[2017-03-29 12:14:24] WhalePanda : \/sentiment
[2017-03-29 12:14:26] rapidgains : i agree with mark121
[2017-03-29 12:14:36] rapidgains : in terms of btc relation
[2017-03-29 12:14:39] KingTuna : There is a negative correlation to BTC price at the moment, which hasn't historically always been the case, but for now it is
[2017-03-29 12:14:40] mark121 : u can watch money flow between the two
[2017-03-29 12:14:45] mark121 : so its not really opinion
[2017-03-29 12:14:48] rapidgains : its not always correlated
[2017-03-29 12:14:50] rapidgains : but it happens
[2017-03-29 12:14:53] mark121 : yep
[2017-03-29 12:15:13] Dynamix : we are just getting started
[2017-03-29 12:15:17] Dynamix : maybe more rekts incoming ;)
[2017-03-29 12:18:35] frog : mark121: you saw the 200k dump on stamp earlier
[2017-03-29 12:18:50] frog : i cant work that one out
[2017-03-29 12:19:12] frog : it only exchange where it happened
[2017-03-29 12:20:32] mark121 : Oh, didnt kno it was on stamp
[2017-03-29 12:21:27] frog : looked like single trader dumping total volume for that minute was 348k
[2017-03-29 12:21:43] frog : tool about 12s to offload
[2017-03-29 12:22:09] mark121 : its a whale splayground
[2017-03-29 12:22:54] WhalePanda : welcome
[2017-03-29 12:23:14] rapidgains : WhalePanda: you dont want no part of this shit
[2017-03-29 12:23:23] rapidgains : leave while you still can
[2017-03-29 12:23:50] frog : also market went right back up within same miute
[2017-03-29 12:24:17] rapidgains : stamp is illiquid
[2017-03-29 12:24:21] rapidgains : simple as that imo
[2017-03-29 12:24:22] frog : another 150k
[2017-03-29 12:24:31] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/oYRZ5hFD/
[2017-03-29 12:24:36] mark121 : ETH daily
[2017-03-29 12:24:38] mark121 : chart
[2017-03-29 12:25:21] mark121 : doesnt take a rocket scientist to see whats going on Rado
[2017-03-29 12:25:29] frog : exactly tand he big volume didn't move the market
[2017-03-29 12:25:38] Dynamix : down we go
[2017-03-29 12:25:53] frog : unless up
[2017-03-29 12:26:11] MikeHunt : mark121: pennant
[2017-03-29 12:26:28] frog : GL all
[2017-03-29 12:26:37] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Zrju6Nap/
[2017-03-29 12:26:46] mark121 : that pennant looks suspciiously fake
[2017-03-29 12:26:52] mark121 : on BTC
[2017-03-29 12:27:47] MikeHunt : mark121: yeh it looks pump n dumpy
[2017-03-29 12:27:48] mark121 : however i dont trade against them in mos tscenarios
[2017-03-29 12:28:21] MikeHunt : yeh they can liq you
[2017-03-29 12:28:33] mark121 : the ETH pattern is a near perfect flag, with an attempted breakout that is currently in a touchback
[2017-03-29 12:28:54] mark121 : if old resistance, new support holds, its a clear moon signal
[2017-03-29 12:28:55] vgck : I don't follow eth that much, what does that mean?
[2017-03-29 12:29:08] vgck : Well nvm then
[2017-03-29 12:29:25] mark121 : a flag typically occurs half way thru a rally (In a very general sense)
[2017-03-29 12:29:36] mark121 : or pennant , they imply the same
[2017-03-29 12:30:58] mark121 : old resistance becomes support , so a touchback basically tests that
[2017-03-29 12:31:03] MikeHunt : well btc atm appears to be in a megaphone pattern
[2017-03-29 12:31:05] MikeHunt : which is bearish
[2017-03-29 12:31:21] mark121 : well
[2017-03-29 12:31:31] mark121 : its also in an inverted head and shoulders
[2017-03-29 12:31:32] mark121 : a pennants
[2017-03-29 12:32:05] mark121 : in othe rwords, nailing which is at play is difficult these days
[2017-03-29 12:32:29] aethlios : stupid manipulators, fake slow upttrend and sudden dump in 2-3 minutes
[2017-03-29 12:39:28] Nutella : almost had decent premium on june
[2017-03-29 12:41:20] mark121 : btc pnennants have habit of breakdown and then rally beyond
[2017-03-29 12:41:50] Actualiteit : http://www.tradingview.com/x/QkDdSjNg
[2017-03-29 12:41:56] Actualiteit : obvious front-facing piranha pattern
[2017-03-29 12:42:01] MikeHunt : btc may well go 1100 again before they dump it to get the inverse H&S
[2017-03-29 12:42:13] MikeHunt : and liq shorts
[2017-03-29 12:42:27] MikeHunt : Actualiteit: nice
[2017-03-29 12:42:41] mark121 : rare piranha pattern
[2017-03-29 12:42:49] mark121 : rarest of all
[2017-03-29 12:45:49] mark121 : up up me think
[2017-03-29 12:46:14] rapidtrades : piranha eats a homeles man pattern on 30 mins
[2017-03-29 12:46:34] rapidtrades : cup included!
[2017-03-29 12:48:28] aguia7 : According to my friend fibonacci, btc is going back to 1115. Since 26 days .. Before some retarded fucking talk, fibonacci, I follow the price, does not mean that I only did LONGS, I made several shorts, since this day.
[2017-03-29 12:49:28] rapidtrades : f*ck fibonacci
[2017-03-29 12:49:42] vgck : Like, in the ass?
[2017-03-29 12:50:13] j8 : people like to think they're using some elegant high level math in their TA
[2017-03-29 12:50:28] mark121 : once, and then again, and then 3 times in the mouth and then 5 times in the arse
[2017-03-29 12:50:50] vgck : But no homo, right?
[2017-03-29 12:50:58] mark121 : extra homo
[2017-03-29 12:51:09] vgck : Damn, that's a lot of homo.
[2017-03-29 12:51:23] rapidgains : this chat
[2017-03-29 12:51:27] rapidgains : cringe
[2017-03-29 12:52:01] mark121 : now u kno how we feel when u speak
[2017-03-29 12:52:02] mark121 : !!
[2017-03-29 12:52:03] mahouni : whats wrong with homo
[2017-03-29 12:52:20] miccheck12 : @mark121 is that from nymphomania?
[2017-03-29 12:53:11] mark121 : the fibonacci fuck sequence? not sure
[2017-03-29 12:53:12] aguia7 : The guys take stop, do not study, and get mad with fibonacci, elliot. Comedy itself.
[2017-03-29 12:53:25] mark121 : yep i think
[2017-03-29 12:53:43] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/cx7ocINBY2KoE/giphy.gif
[2017-03-29 12:54:10] rapidtrades : show some class mark...ffs
[2017-03-29 12:54:30] mark121 : Oh rapidgains, wasnt u
[2017-03-29 12:54:30] mark121 : my apologies
[2017-03-29 12:54:44] mark121 : to rapidgains
[2017-03-29 12:54:51] arbitrage101 : j8: doesnt high frequency trading use high level elegant math ?
[2017-03-29 12:54:51] rapidtrades : the level of discourse in this cat went down precipitously since you got here
[2017-03-29 12:54:51] rapidgains : lol
[2017-03-29 12:55:02] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: how things go, bro
[2017-03-29 12:55:14] mahouni : yea mark is noob masquarering as equite expert of 10 years
[2017-03-29 12:55:34] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: its going...
[2017-03-29 12:55:39] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-29 12:56:19] binacoin : How high can btc go today?
[2017-03-29 12:56:33] vgck : Moon
[2017-03-29 12:56:45] binacoin : i hate the moon
[2017-03-29 12:56:51] mark121 : speaking of equities , duty calls in 4 mins got some prep todo
[2017-03-29 12:57:08] rapidtrades : its gonna go until alts stop falling, then reverse all gains
[2017-03-29 12:57:14] arbitrage101 : Rado: had some btc stucked at 0.4xx lending i like to get out since last week
[2017-03-29 12:57:23] Apocalyptic : mark121: what are you working on ?
[2017-03-29 12:57:28] Apocalyptic : (vaguely)
[2017-03-29 12:57:30] rapidtrades : still has tons of problems
[2017-03-29 12:57:55] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: think some alt still have room to gain
[2017-03-29 12:58:04] arbitrage101 : early stage of bubble
[2017-03-29 12:58:10] arbitrage101 : not even hysteria yet
[2017-03-29 12:58:41] mark121 : analysis of samsung , couple scenario extrapolations
[2017-03-29 12:59:06] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: still too many people talk shit on eth, dash, xmr
[2017-03-29 12:59:09] j8 : arbitrage101: yeah but the hft guys actually know math. people doing TA just like words like fibonacci and fractal
[2017-03-29 12:59:46] arbitrage101 : j8: yea
[2017-03-29 12:59:53] arbitrage101 : ta or not, or math
[2017-03-29 12:59:59] arbitrage101 : just bs to me since i know little
[2017-03-29 13:00:06] WhalePanda : mark121, define extrapolate
[2017-03-29 13:00:17] mark121 : its not a real term
[2017-03-29 13:00:20] mark121 : official
[2017-03-29 13:00:22] WhalePanda : My boy WheelchairJuice PhD says you don't know shit
[2017-03-29 13:00:32] binacoin : boring, i need some real actions
[2017-03-29 13:00:33] WhalePanda : PhD
[2017-03-29 13:00:39] j8 : the most common fib line is 50%. that has nothing to do with fib numbers
[2017-03-29 13:00:49] j8 : or golden ratio
[2017-03-29 13:00:56] rapidgains : wait
[2017-03-29 13:01:05] rapidgains : wheelchair is impersonating whale panda now?
[2017-03-29 13:01:07] arbitrage101 : j8: seem to know quite a bit on TA for non-believer
[2017-03-29 13:01:51] j8 : well i wouldn't diss it if i hadn't thought about it
[2017-03-29 13:01:52] WhalePanda : mark121, no definition?
[2017-03-29 13:01:54] mark121 : lol your "boy" has mental problems and likely wears diapers
[2017-03-29 13:02:07] WhalePanda : mark121, define extrapolate
[2017-03-29 13:02:12] WhalePanda : You used it. Define it
[2017-03-29 13:02:25] mark121 : if i dignify u
[2017-03-29 13:02:26] mark121 : i lose
[2017-03-29 13:02:30] Apocalyptic : mark121: yeah I think he's ill
[2017-03-29 13:03:22] mark121 : glfellas ttys
[2017-03-29 13:03:55] mark121 : Apocalyptic: definitely
[2017-03-29 13:04:03] Apocalyptic : see you
[2017-03-29 13:06:23] arbitrage101 : polo lending rate is quite attractive
[2017-03-29 13:06:35] arbitrage101 : combine with shorting june here
[2017-03-29 13:07:17] mahouni : How much leverage at polo
[2017-03-29 13:07:27] arbitrage101 : no idea
[2017-03-29 13:07:36] arbitrage101 : so far, no problem on repayment yet
[2017-03-29 13:07:59] arbitrage101 : fluctuate between 0.1 to 0.4 daily rate
[2017-03-29 13:08:03] sleger : most companies alive today havent filed bankruptcy yet
[2017-03-29 13:08:23] arbitrage101 : sleger: sp500 companies?
[2017-03-29 13:08:41] sleger : you didnt understand my comment
[2017-03-29 13:09:13] arbitrage101 : reread
[2017-03-29 13:09:16] arbitrage101 : understood
[2017-03-29 13:11:46] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 13:11:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 59.43 / 40.57 Daily : 52.48 / 47.52 Weekly : 50.01 / 49.99 Monthly : 52.32 / 47.68```
[2017-03-29 13:14:14] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/CofEfD9RTPDyM/giphy.gif
[2017-03-29 13:14:38] j8 : i think the odds of polo having losses are pretty high, but they're making so much money as an exchange that they'd be idiots not to cover it
[2017-03-29 13:15:01] arbitrage101 : j8: yea
[2017-03-29 13:15:08] arbitrage101 : probably more than finex or bitmex
[2017-03-29 13:15:16] arbitrage101 : if the volume there is real
[2017-03-29 13:15:23] arbitrage101 : they are making a shit ton
[2017-03-29 13:15:29] j8 : well bitmex has system losses all the time
[2017-03-29 13:15:36] j8 : that's what adl is
[2017-03-29 13:15:56] j8 : finex had some a long time ago and did cover it
[2017-03-29 13:17:32] arbitrage101 : fee is pretty high also, and no competition
[2017-03-29 13:17:55] j8 : polo lets people trade absolute garbage with your coins, things that can quadruple overnight
[2017-03-29 13:17:57] Rado : Fee is insane high
[2017-03-29 13:19:02] j8 : it is insane, they are by far the most profitable exchange these days
[2017-03-29 13:21:08] Dnavid : Solid resistance at last around $1.060 /btc
[2017-03-29 13:23:18] j8 : i don't really understand why alt exchanges have higher fees in general, i guess people are willing to pay it, the operating costs would be a lot lower than usd markets though
[2017-03-29 13:24:28] arbitrage101 : i would guess they need a lot of highly specialized people to run polo
[2017-03-29 13:24:41] arbitrage101 : reviewing coin code before adding it
[2017-03-29 13:24:58] rapidgains : some of those polo orerbooks are more active than bitcoin exchanges
[2017-03-29 13:24:58] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-03-29 13:25:22] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: maybe they add em
[2017-03-29 13:25:28] MikeHunt : with an "oh fuck it" attitude
[2017-03-29 13:26:01] arbitrage101 : MikeHunt: no
[2017-03-29 13:26:08] arbitrage101 : any coin with security flaw
[2017-03-29 13:26:12] arbitrage101 : big enough can ruin the exchange
[2017-03-29 13:26:39] j8 : arbitrage101: highly specialized i doubt it, basically started as a one man operation. there have been hundreds of alt exchanges and like polo they're all crap
[2017-03-29 13:27:19] Rado : How do they pick which coins to add on margin?
[2017-03-29 13:27:23] Rado : most are not
[2017-03-29 13:27:37] arbitrage101 : Rado: liquidity and enough supply
[2017-03-29 13:27:41] arbitrage101 : and trade volume
[2017-03-29 13:27:43] arbitrage101 : my guess
[2017-03-29 13:27:46] Rado : I wish all of them are so I can short the shut out of these high flying coins right bow
[2017-03-29 13:27:53] Rado : now
[2017-03-29 13:28:02] j8 : bribes probably
[2017-03-29 13:28:03] Rado : arbitrage101: no
[2017-03-29 13:28:20] Rado : some have a lot of volume, byt are never added
[2017-03-29 13:28:23] arbitrage101 : you can short all the high flying one on finex now
[2017-03-29 13:28:33] arbitrage101 : including dash and zcash
[2017-03-29 13:28:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1892 @ 1051.00
[2017-03-29 13:28:37] Rado : arbitrage101: you can?
[2017-03-29 13:28:40] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-03-29 13:28:52] Rado : bitcoun plus?
[2017-03-29 13:28:57] Rado : bitcoin dark?
[2017-03-29 13:28:58] arbitrage101 : that one too new
[2017-03-29 13:29:05] arbitrage101 : beside, shorting a new coin is never a good idea
[2017-03-29 13:29:09] Rado : it's not new
[2017-03-29 13:29:14] Rado : it's two years ild
[2017-03-29 13:29:18] Rado : ild
[2017-03-29 13:29:19] Rado : old
[2017-03-29 13:29:19] arbitrage101 : is it?
[2017-03-29 13:29:25] arbitrage101 : just noticed it yesterday
[2017-03-29 13:29:32] Rado : Lol
[2017-03-29 13:29:33] Rado : yeah
[2017-03-29 13:29:36] Wonker : dash diving
[2017-03-29 13:29:46] Rado : a lot of them are going up now
[2017-03-29 13:29:57] Rado : easy money if you can short
[2017-03-29 13:30:07] oo : oooooooo
[2017-03-29 13:30:09] Rado : They have no where to go but down
[2017-03-29 13:30:16] oo : oo
[2017-03-29 13:30:35] rapidgains : kill em
[2017-03-29 13:30:40] Rado : DASH very slow to get under 0.07
[2017-03-29 13:31:38] WhalePanda : You sure?
[2017-03-29 13:33:06] WhalePanda : What about now?
[2017-03-29 13:33:13] MikeHunt : careful shorting dash, its rogers wank coin
[2017-03-29 13:33:26] oo : ETH go!
[2017-03-29 13:34:35] Dynamix : Just a bit more to get rekts incomming :D
[2017-03-29 13:34:57] WhalePanda : :)
[2017-03-29 13:34:58] WhalePanda : Welcome
[2017-03-29 13:35:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 18 @ 1047.72
[2017-03-29 13:35:22] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2017-03-29 13:35:25] WhalePanda : mark121, what's you call? I hear you're a maket wizard
[2017-03-29 13:36:01] oo : wow
[2017-03-29 13:36:07] oo : short all!!
[2017-03-29 13:36:09] Rado : WhalePanda: same WhalePanda as on twitter?
[2017-03-29 13:36:12] aethlios : someone bought VTC with me, are you here brave buyer?? ltc will pump like vtc if pass SW.
[2017-03-29 13:36:16] oo : short BTC all!!!
[2017-03-29 13:36:18] rapidgains : Rado: its wheelchair
[2017-03-29 13:36:25] WhalePanda : Rado, why? You need to get wrecked there too?
[2017-03-29 13:36:43] Rado : I guess the answer is not
[2017-03-29 13:36:54] Rado : the guy on twitter is intelligent
[2017-03-29 13:37:03] WhalePanda : How's that BTC short xD
[2017-03-29 13:37:12] \//\ : why is btc dumping
[2017-03-29 13:37:20] WhalePanda : Shaking weak hands I am
[2017-03-29 13:37:33] WhalePanda : All the 'pros' here are going to learn what a real trader does
[2017-03-29 13:37:40] WhalePanda : Prepare your margins
[2017-03-29 13:38:05] sleger : we should really block that stupid IRC channel
[2017-03-29 13:38:14] sleger : only dumb trolls there
[2017-03-29 13:38:15] rapidgains : yup
[2017-03-29 13:38:15] Rado : Yes
[2017-03-29 13:38:26] rapidgains : he dosnt even trade here
[2017-03-29 13:38:35] rapidgains : thats the best part
[2017-03-29 13:38:46] WhalePanda : Define "here"
[2017-03-29 13:38:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : is wheelchair still here?
[2017-03-29 13:38:56] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ah yeah there he is
[2017-03-29 13:39:14] DorianWhack-A-Moto : WhalePanda? thats ambitious
[2017-03-29 13:39:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 2222 @ 0.004078
[2017-03-29 13:39:46] hmmmYea : DorianWhack-A-Moto: can we all make a pact to ignore him forever?
[2017-03-29 13:39:59] WhalePanda : xD
[2017-03-29 13:40:05] DorianWhack-A-Moto : yeah wont waste anymore time on him
[2017-03-29 13:40:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 1 @ 0.080525
[2017-03-29 13:40:08] WhalePanda : Ready to go up?
[2017-03-29 13:41:17] l3f : sleger: casino's pretty bullish
[2017-03-29 13:41:22] WhalePanda : Let me know when you've had a enough
[2017-03-29 13:42:32] WhalePanda : Feel that?
[2017-03-29 13:42:43] WhalePanda : Let's speed things up here. I need to go
[2017-03-29 13:43:51] WhalePanda : I enjoy your silence more than your money
[2017-03-29 13:44:09] WhalePanda : https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846787519215628288
[2017-03-29 13:45:55] daz : must admit if thats true WhalePanda, it makes me lose faith in the ability of bitcoin to be a force for good for us all..
[2017-03-29 13:46:11] WhalePanda : I am Bitcoin
[2017-03-29 13:46:20] WhalePanda : I'm all markets at all time
[2017-03-29 13:46:24] WhalePanda : Let's go down again.
[2017-03-29 13:46:36] Actualiteit : daz: as soon as someone starts posting wheelchairfaggot tweets pls just ignore
[2017-03-29 13:46:58] WhalePanda : Feel that?
[2017-03-29 13:47:15] Rado : /ignore WhalePanda
[2017-03-29 13:47:29] WhalePanda : Okay. Let's go up again
[2017-03-29 13:47:40] Rado : We really need this feature
[2017-03-29 13:48:07] WhalePanda : Prep your margins. Going up
[2017-03-29 13:48:27] nwonknu : if you come to IRC, you have it =)
[2017-03-29 13:48:48] Apocalyptic : Rado: +1
[2017-03-29 13:49:12] nwonknu : but like i said last time, might be better to make this chan +m (moderated)
[2017-03-29 13:51:33] Smartass : can someone of the mods explain what will happen with the btc holdings here in case of Hardfork due to bitcoin unlimited?
[2017-03-29 13:51:47] WhalePanda : There isn't a fork. Stop the FUD
[2017-03-29 13:52:37] WhalePanda : http://nodecounter.com/#bitcoin_classic_blocks
[2017-03-29 13:52:42] Smartass : In other words is there any plan what will be done in case of HF
[2017-03-29 13:53:45] rapidgains : https://blog.bitmex.com/on-potential-post-fork-contract-settlement/
[2017-03-29 13:55:04] jayesh : .
[2017-03-29 13:55:13] Smartass : @rapidgains: thx. will read through it
[2017-03-29 14:00:21] MikeHunt : BU will likely keep decreasing until May
[2017-03-29 14:00:27] MikeHunt : when next major meeting is due
[2017-03-29 14:06:15] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 14:06:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 60.77 / 39.23 Daily : 52.76 / 47.24 Weekly : 49.81 / 50.19 Monthly : 52.33 / 47.67```
[2017-03-29 14:13:08] Dnavid : News on fork attack
[2017-03-29 14:17:05] Dnavid : https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/847082969663713280
[2017-03-29 14:18:30] Dnavid : /fork
[2017-03-29 14:18:30] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 846.00 (0.07%) Bitfinex BCU : 199.99 (8.57%) SLQ : 5 hours, 21 mins```
[2017-03-29 14:22:47] aguia7 : Dnavid: What does that mean? If the chain of BTC blocks die, and stay the chain of BTU blocks. Will the bitcoins be zero? Or will it simply change the mining blocks?
[2017-03-29 14:29:49] rapidtrades : GOOD
[2017-03-29 14:29:51] rapidtrades : BRING IT ON BU!!!
[2017-03-29 14:30:12] rapidtrades : there are tons of fools who got in this market past few months
[2017-03-29 14:30:35] rapidtrades : they see putting money in bitcoin as saving and they need to go broke
[2017-03-29 14:30:54] rapidtrades : all those idiots DCA in every month
[2017-03-29 14:31:01] sleger : https://www.wired.com/2017/03/plan-save-blockchain-democracy-bitcoins-civil-war/
[2017-03-29 14:40:54] rapidtrades : the BU ppl are crazy and ppl are underestimating the odds for a very messy fork
[2017-03-29 14:41:13] rapidtrades : prices could crater to $200-300 in worst case scenario
[2017-03-29 14:41:28] rapidtrades : we have no business being this high, market needs to discount that option
[2017-03-29 14:41:34] sleger : buying eth is just better
[2017-03-29 14:42:55] rapidtrades : don't think so but that's besides the point anyway
[2017-03-29 14:43:20] rapidtrades : 1k bitcoin is ridiculous just shows how much delusional ppl came on board last year
[2017-03-29 14:43:35] Rado : rapidtrades: what if this is reduced prices at 1000
[2017-03-29 14:43:46] rapidtrades : shut up Rado
[2017-03-29 14:43:56] Rado : and when the HF fund is done we will be at 2000
[2017-03-29 14:44:10] rapidtrades : even the china blowup isn't sufficiently priced in
[2017-03-29 14:44:30] rapidtrades : everything is getting shrugged offf on blind optimism
[2017-03-29 14:44:55] arbitrage101 : chinese money will need to go elsewhere when btc blow up
[2017-03-29 14:44:56] Rado : Because China is using scare tactics
[2017-03-29 14:45:15] Rado : they don't really want to lill BTC
[2017-03-29 14:45:17] rapidtrades : noone asked u for ur opinions
[2017-03-29 14:45:21] Rado : Kill
[2017-03-29 14:45:24] arbitrage101 : chinese culture == slow and followed the west
[2017-03-29 14:45:30] rapidtrades : well its already dead isnt it?
[2017-03-29 14:45:40] rapidtrades : u can't withdraw for almost 2 months
[2017-03-29 14:45:48] rapidtrades : is that bitcoin overthere?
[2017-03-29 14:45:59] rapidtrades : just some numbers on a database
[2017-03-29 14:46:16] rapidtrades : it's effectively killed
[2017-03-29 14:46:17] Rado : Lol
[2017-03-29 14:46:36] Rado : that is what BTC is everywhere
[2017-03-29 14:47:41] Rado : If you invested money that you don't want to lose is your fault
[2017-03-29 14:48:13] Dynamix : Rektenings soon
[2017-03-29 14:50:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 51241 @ 1050.68 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-29 14:51:28] Rado : Dynamix: you have a crystal ball?
[2017-03-29 14:51:53] rapidgains : REKT: what a dumbasss
[2017-03-29 14:51:55] Dynamix : Rado: Yes, its in between my eyes ;)
[2017-03-29 14:51:55] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-03-29 14:55:09] rapidtrades : the altcoin rally is last stage of the bitcoin bubble
[2017-03-29 14:55:29] rapidtrades : everyone that missed out on BTC is now trying to get in alts
[2017-03-29 14:55:53] rapidtrades : if alts were going up due to fork fears bitcoin wouldn't be trading at 1k but much lower
[2017-03-29 14:56:22] rapidtrades : ETH is highly overvalued here and Dash is trash
[2017-03-29 14:56:40] Rado : rapidtrades: finally you are making sense
[2017-03-29 14:56:44] llugo : https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/847082969663713280
[2017-03-29 14:56:48] rapidtrades : just iidots buying hoping to get rich
[2017-03-29 14:56:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 7 @ 0.048870
[2017-03-29 14:57:00] sleger : eth is highly undervalued
[2017-03-29 14:57:11] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: trash can make traders rich
[2017-03-29 14:57:48] Rado : sleger: 5 year term?
[2017-03-29 14:57:50] arbitrage101 : if you are here everyday, might as well jump on the bandwagon
[2017-03-29 14:58:04] sleger : Rado: 3m, 1y, 5y
[2017-03-29 14:58:16] Rado : because right now it's 50% overvalued
[2017-03-29 14:58:24] arbitrage101 : i am going to sell all my eth should it go to 500-600 range
[2017-03-29 14:58:29] Rado : should be right around 0.036
[2017-03-29 14:58:40] sleger : Rado: based on what illogic ?
[2017-03-29 14:59:17] Rado : Based on trading patterns
[2017-03-29 14:59:25] rapidtrades : ETH has the worst developers and millennial community, it will never take over BTC
[2017-03-29 14:59:29] arbitrage101 : market cap of 50B doesnt sound unreasonble
[2017-03-29 14:59:54] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: it is rapidly gaining network effect
[2017-03-29 15:00:00] Rado : arbitrage101: then BTC market cap will be 1 trillion
[2017-03-29 15:00:02] arbitrage101 : many new projects build on top of eth
[2017-03-29 15:00:07] arbitrage101 : not on btc
[2017-03-29 15:00:12] sleger : rapid doesnt know about developer, he is not qualified to comment
[2017-03-29 15:00:40] hmmmYea : bitcoin community is having a civil war, how is this is even a debate
[2017-03-29 15:01:44] Rado : Where is the dumb ass that was thinking RTH can not go down if BTC is not rising?
[2017-03-29 15:01:55] Rado : ETH
[2017-03-29 15:01:57] hmmmYea : its like watching a lovers quarrel... you just want to slowly back away and go somewhere else
[2017-03-29 15:03:28] rapidgains : eth up > 500% and people all of sudden forget about eth not being immutable
[2017-03-29 15:04:13] Rado : rapidgains: ETH also has inflation
[2017-03-29 15:04:24] rapidgains : the only thing that has changed since then and now is price
[2017-03-29 15:05:12] rapidgains : im not an eth hater
[2017-03-29 15:05:14] rapidgains : im just saying
[2017-03-29 15:05:26] arbitrage101 : rapidgains: and price is the outlook of its future
[2017-03-29 15:05:36] arbitrage101 : market is always looking ahead
[2017-03-29 15:05:51] arbitrage101 : and it went up for a reason
[2017-03-29 15:06:03] Rado : arbitrage101: it got a little ahead of itself
[2017-03-29 15:06:08] arbitrage101 : maybe
[2017-03-29 15:06:23] arbitrage101 : full blown optimism cause bubble
[2017-03-29 15:06:34] Rado : Yep
[2017-03-29 15:06:44] rapidgains : my comment was about the "bitcoin civil war"
[2017-03-29 15:06:48] arbitrage101 : but bubble stage is when everyone is in it
[2017-03-29 15:06:50] rapidgains : eth had that not too long ego
[2017-03-29 15:06:52] rapidgains : literally
[2017-03-29 15:07:00] arbitrage101 : still too many poeple talk shit about eth and alt coin
[2017-03-29 15:07:00] rapidgains : but now the price is up and nobody cares
[2017-03-29 15:07:33] arbitrage101 : and like i mention before
[2017-03-29 15:07:43] arbitrage101 : china money has always lag behind
[2017-03-29 15:07:51] arbitrage101 : followed what the west do
[2017-03-29 15:07:58] arbitrage101 : copy and paste tech
[2017-03-29 15:08:06] arbitrage101 : or investment in this case
[2017-03-29 15:11:29] rapidtrades : ETH community is get rich quick kids
[2017-03-29 15:11:38] rapidtrades : all the missed outs from bitcoin
[2017-03-29 15:11:57] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: if they want to play dirty
[2017-03-29 15:12:02] rapidtrades : they forked the chain to roll back a hack, goes against everything crypto is
[2017-03-29 15:12:20] arbitrage101 : they could short a lot of eth and abandon the project
[2017-03-29 15:12:37] rapidtrades : ETH community= human trash
[2017-03-29 15:16:16] sleger : dummy
[2017-03-29 15:16:49] rapidtrades : if bitcoin had the ETH community the BU ppl would've already won
[2017-03-29 15:27:29] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: oh the horror
[2017-03-29 15:28:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1200 @ 1047.29
[2017-03-29 15:28:09] hmmmYea : then maybe transactions would actually go thru
[2017-03-29 15:28:54] laisee : BU wlll save Bitcoin this year, ETH will bury it next year
[2017-03-29 15:33:47] elmorte : mempool size < 2MB
[2017-03-29 15:35:06] elmorte : recommended fee still 50c though
[2017-03-29 15:35:43] arbitrage101 : elmorte: btc transaction fee now cost more than a meal
[2017-03-29 15:35:50] arbitrage101 : in kl
[2017-03-29 15:35:56] startChat : cheaper than moving gold
[2017-03-29 15:35:59] laisee : fees are not too dynamic
[2017-03-29 15:36:05] elmorte : yup @arbitrage101
[2017-03-29 15:36:28] laisee : "Bitcoin: it's not for everyone"
[2017-03-29 15:36:36] elmorte : laisee: :D
[2017-03-29 15:37:17] laisee : "Bitcoin: if you have to ask the fee then u can't afford to use it"
[2017-03-29 15:48:06] rapidgains : lol
[2017-03-29 15:52:01] sleger : "rapidtrades: they forked the chain to roll back a hack, goes against everything crypto is" <= that is completely wrong and ignorant, its called concensus
[2017-03-29 15:52:31] startChat : how was that concensus found?
[2017-03-29 15:52:33] rapidgains : by the mining cartel sure
[2017-03-29 15:56:11] hmmmYea : sleger: i would use less insulting language, but basically, yea
[2017-03-29 15:56:45] sleger : insulting ? wrong and ignorant ?
[2017-03-29 15:57:02] sleger : to the guy who insults everyone's mother for no reason
[2017-03-29 15:57:05] sleger : I call that polite
[2017-03-29 15:57:23] hmmmYea : lol
[2017-03-29 15:57:36] mark121 : eth down btc up?
[2017-03-29 15:57:48] hmmmYea : is anyone doing this lunyr token sale?
[2017-03-29 15:57:49] mark121 : my alarms are crying
[2017-03-29 15:58:22] hmmmYea : seems like a pile of dung.... but dung people might want to pay alot for in a couple months
[2017-03-29 15:58:59] hmmmYea : very mixed feelings
[2017-03-29 15:59:51] mark121 : it occured to me that whoever told me to be classy didn't understand that it was nerdy math joke (one of the rapid's I believe it was) earlier - kk bbl
[2017-03-29 16:01:33] rapidgains : not me
[2017-03-29 16:03:11] mark121 : was 95% sure it was not u :)
[2017-03-29 16:04:29] mark121 : gona wait until trend presents itself clearly b4 i leave it actually
[2017-03-29 16:12:47] mark121 : Darran, you messaged me on TV (if you are reading this atm) - I cannot reply until my self inflicted ban expires but tentatively i can answer your Q in the affirmative
[2017-03-29 16:14:32] mark121 : i took a stand against abusive, despot-like moderators :P 2.5 days left
[2017-03-29 16:19:56] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/xNT2CcLjhbI0U/giphy.gif
[2017-03-29 16:20:11] sleger : for rapid: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/6255iv/daily_discussion_29mar2017/dfkb5y8/
[2017-03-29 16:23:57] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/JBmS6Kew6z8S4/giphy.gif
[2017-03-29 16:25:34] aethlios : sleger: do you think tezos is a good idea?? no cap, could be overinvesting.
[2017-03-29 16:25:53] mark121 : "I knew about btc at the time but it never struck me as an investment because its value only comes from people believing it has value."
[2017-03-29 16:26:01] mark121 : Such a fallacy
[2017-03-29 16:26:22] sleger : yes its a smart idea and they have been working on it for a while, also when they do the ico it will be ready, not years later @aethlios
[2017-03-29 16:26:24] mark121 : what does he think money is
[2017-03-29 16:28:18] startChat : many people don't think about it
[2017-03-29 16:29:29] aethlios : sleger: thanks, one Q: they have a POS system, do you know what return per year??
[2017-03-29 16:30:09] aethlios : around 5% to 6%???
[2017-03-29 16:31:50] sleger : aethlios: i saw something about it not long ago, cant find it anymore
[2017-03-29 16:32:04] elmorte : sleger: you'll let us know when the time comes to dump ETH, right?
[2017-03-29 16:32:12] mark121 : outside of trading in edibles very few things if any have inherent value
[2017-03-29 16:33:11] mark121 : even then the value depents on hunger level lol
[2017-03-29 16:33:17] mark121 : depends rather
[2017-03-29 16:33:36] sleger : aethlios: https://medium.com/@arthurb/diff-2014-tezos-2017-tezos-1cb566cca892
[2017-03-29 16:34:00] sleger : "The total block rewards will still start at about 5% per year, but we may add an asymptotic cap to the total number of tokens."
[2017-03-29 16:35:23] herpinator : so I am hearing rumors of a CMBS crash coming soon, any real substance to the claims?
[2017-03-29 16:40:00] aguia7 : https://media.giphy.com/media/WFMfdEr1wTQyc/giphy.gif
[2017-03-29 16:40:40] herpinator : aguia7: I saved this gif yesterday hahaha its actually what I picture when a big buy wall is getting eaten
[2017-03-29 16:40:54] herpinator : someone should make a bull version
[2017-03-29 16:41:15] aguia7 : XD HAHA
[2017-03-29 16:41:29] aethlios : sleger: thanks again, important that the project is ready (said 3 years of development), just make it risky the no cap, dao for example raised 100 million. then no room for market cap to run.
[2017-03-29 16:41:56] sleger : aethlios: where did you see no cap ?
[2017-03-29 16:42:03] sleger : afaik details of ICO are not known yet
[2017-03-29 16:43:27] aethlios : sleger: asked slack channel kathleenb a member of the team (pretty also).
[2017-03-29 16:44:47] aethlios : I want to enter each year 2 to 3 projects, so because you mentioned it here i checked it.
[2017-03-29 16:45:47] sleger : if there is no early discount then you can wait towards the end to see how much people have bought in
[2017-03-29 16:45:58] mark121 : Internet of Coins, i feel like very few folks have droped 10btc for the early bird bonus lol
[2017-03-29 16:46:24] mark121 : if i did id be 1/20 of the fund thus far
[2017-03-29 16:46:57] hmmmYea : is there a date on tezos yet?
[2017-03-29 16:47:32] aethlios : Tezos is currently scheduled for release in early Q2 2017
[2017-03-29 16:47:34] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 16:47:36] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.86 / 66.14 Daily : 50.70 / 49.30 Weekly : 49.80 / 50.20 Monthly : 52.31 / 47.69```