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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-03-28 22:17:07] MikeHunt : leadership
[2017-03-28 22:17:14] MikeHunt : CharLee also has his bro at BTCC to help
[2017-03-28 22:17:49] stf28 : and all the HF talk will just make part of bitcoin romantic story
[2017-03-28 22:17:52] aethlios : also dash has a dev active who is in front.
[2017-03-28 22:18:14] MikeHunt : dash will die when roger dies
[2017-03-28 22:18:18] MikeHunt : its his wank coin
[2017-03-28 22:18:58] aethlios : MikeHunt: Charlie Lee now tries to pass SW, if SW passes to ltc will be because of CL campaigning.
[2017-03-28 22:19:14] aethlios : dash crash trash
[2017-03-28 22:19:15] MikeHunt : aethlios: yup
[2017-03-28 22:20:04] stf28 : think of the millions of early coins and where are they now... how much money have been made in good hands, of course it goes up when large corporations pumps, and down when others try to scare the market, but for me there's only supply and demand and this you can see with the line i was talking about
[2017-03-28 22:20:46] stf28 : aethlios: @MikeHunt you know a lot about altcoins :)
[2017-03-28 22:20:53] aethlios : what is satoshi comes back and says: I want SW or I want bigger blocks. what will happen?? who will go out and disagree. problem will be solved fast.
[2017-03-28 22:22:21] stf28 : aethlios: lol if satoshi would suddenly appear it could disappear as fast "where are the private keys dude uh?"
[2017-03-28 22:22:24] emcor : i have been thinking
[2017-03-28 22:22:32] emcor : why are you the kind of dogs which you are
[2017-03-28 22:22:41] emcor : answer: you dont have phd
[2017-03-28 22:22:49] emcor : you shouldnt trade if you dont have phd
[2017-03-28 22:23:00] emcor : because then i rip you off ez
[2017-03-28 22:23:08] stf28 : stop selling your new phd coin, it's not traded here :p
[2017-03-28 22:23:24] emcor : : (
[2017-03-28 22:23:40] stf28 : you MM here?
[2017-03-28 22:25:19] stf28 : emcor:
[2017-03-28 22:25:47] emcor : i dont trade here because sometimes people give smart answers
[2017-03-28 22:25:59] emcor : im trading on one of the major exchanges where there are more gos
[2017-03-28 22:26:02] emcor : *dogs
[2017-03-28 22:26:04] aethlios : btc bear market to 10 usd in 10 years will be spectacular to trade.
[2017-03-28 22:26:24] Apocalyptic : aethlios: can't wait to see that happen
[2017-03-28 22:27:01] stf28 : emcor: i've seen some pretty strategies here and gaining accuracy with the time
[2017-03-28 22:27:31] Apocalyptic : aethlios: I think the network will die sooner than BTC quoting at 10
[2017-03-28 22:27:32] stf28 : emcor: pure TA or stochastic processes?
[2017-03-28 22:27:33] MikeHunt : stf28: drawing a line from $2 to now suggests we are edge of bear market as well, bitcoin could drop quite a lot
[2017-03-28 22:28:19] stf28 : MikeHunt: the events i talked about earlier are returns to this line when some team pumps too much
[2017-03-28 22:29:08] MikeHunt : stf28: also u mentioned 198$ a while back, didnt the PnD already start b4 that?
[2017-03-28 22:29:46] stf28 : MikeHunt: now we are late to the planning and should consider a parallel or the one taking account of july 2016 low
[2017-03-28 22:31:54] stf28 : MikeHunt: the 1k$ run was effectively gox pushed but there were other aggressive participants who suddenly disappeared. After that you see a 2 years bear market with natural swings ending brutally 26 may 2016
[2017-03-28 22:32:22] MikeHunt : on 1w chart it seems if $500 falls
[2017-03-28 22:32:26] MikeHunt : its down to $100s
[2017-03-28 22:32:33] frog : the wealth transfer between shorts and longs over past couple of days is huge
[2017-03-28 22:34:10] stf28 : i think pumpers stepped back in on this day and pushed too much since 1050-1076
[2017-03-28 22:35:32] stf28 : MikeHunt: it depends of exchange and data you ahve, for 25/08/2016 the bitstamp low is 198.12 but for bitfinex it emptied order book down to 98 if i remember
[2017-03-28 22:35:57] MikeHunt : oh
[2017-03-28 22:35:59] stf28 : on bitcoin wisdom it was cut cause too disturbing on the charts ^^
[2017-03-28 22:37:38] stf28 : from past experience i see the same willy since february regurlarly burning reasonable bears
[2017-03-28 22:39:01] stf28 : of course there's the 1k$ hype but the buying is too strong since december imho
[2017-03-28 22:39:56] stf28 : so please bears please help market to find a reasonable price, but i'm more on something like 1050-1080 for few months now
[2017-03-28 22:40:24] stf28 : *as median line of course,
[2017-03-28 22:40:44] stf28 : MikeHunt: do you have an hypotesis or hints about what happened march 10th/11th ?
[2017-03-28 22:41:09] stf28 : sleger:
[2017-03-28 22:41:11] MikeHunt : stf28: you mean the short squeeze?
[2017-03-28 22:42:06] stf28 : i mean the +/- 300 $ variation
[2017-03-28 22:42:11] sleger : no he means or should know
[2017-03-28 22:42:15] sleger : the ETF dummy
[2017-03-28 22:42:55] stf28 : so whale came and bet about etf positive?
[2017-03-28 22:43:03] stf28 : and denied so crash ?
[2017-03-28 22:43:06] MikeHunt : maybe, or it was an exit pump
[2017-03-28 22:43:28] stf28 : sleger: @MikeHunt i don't buy the etf story, it has already been priced in since announce of future decision
[2017-03-28 22:43:31] sleger : MikeHunt: NO it was all about the etf and gaming
[2017-03-28 22:43:51] sleger : stf28: ??? nobody knew the etf before the etf sec result
[2017-03-28 22:44:21] MikeHunt : sleger: yeh, exit pump because whale thought it was not gonna pass, or just a massive bet
[2017-03-28 22:44:28] stf28 : didn' t we know that winklethings were to make a stock from btc since 2015 ?
[2017-03-28 22:45:51] mark121 : up
[2017-03-28 22:46:42] stf28 : MikeHunt: yeah massive ^^
[2017-03-28 22:46:57] Alignment : etoque: u awake?
[2017-03-28 22:47:09] Alignment : aethlios: u short yet?
[2017-03-28 22:47:12] abbey : simo says soon doown
[2017-03-28 22:47:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1050 @ 1041.95
[2017-03-28 22:48:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 500 @ 0.002146
[2017-03-28 22:48:32] aethlios : i was from 1050, closed 900. re opened 970 closed 1000 and reopened 1060. now stay short up to 1120 (stop loss) take profit 715-740 and re open 900-950.
[2017-03-28 22:49:38] Alignment : aethlios: alts market are crazy
[2017-03-28 22:50:32] aethlios : the lower the btc goes, more money will move to alts.
[2017-03-28 22:50:33] MikeHunt : aethlios: might wanna set it just above 1120
[2017-03-28 22:50:48] aethlios : maybe 1130-1135.
[2017-03-28 22:50:54] MikeHunt : yup
[2017-03-28 22:51:24] aethlios : previous top was 1120
[2017-03-28 22:53:46] aethlios : MikeHunt: liquidity sucks here and in okcoin futures. only MMs play, we lost many users money.
[2017-03-28 22:54:31] MikeHunt : yeh it has been quieter lately
[2017-03-28 22:54:33] stf28 : aethlios: many users lost money lol
[2017-03-28 22:55:02] aethlios : march now bids are only MM
[2017-03-28 22:55:14] stf28 : me inclunding, i just managed to save 20% of earnings here, been too greeeeeeeeedy
[2017-03-28 22:55:36] Apocalyptic : aethlios: volume so low on swap these days
[2017-03-28 22:55:39] aethlios : if we lose 1000, shorts will be extra safe.
[2017-03-28 22:55:46] Apocalyptic : and the usercount is below 1k, sad
[2017-03-28 22:56:16] sleger : low premium, low user count, trollbox mostly short => price has to go up
[2017-03-28 22:57:19] aethlios : if we lose 1000 will see all future here okcoin will go to discount, rates in finex 0.08%, but in the rally no premium even in june only 10 usd. so market is very bear and doesn't trust the rallies.
[2017-03-28 22:57:22] stf28 : aethlios: it's hard these days to make a serious guess about march
[2017-03-28 22:57:45] stf28 : aethlios: i bought one
[2017-03-28 22:57:48] stf28 : :)
[2017-03-28 22:58:34] stf28 : target 1130
[2017-03-28 22:58:56] aethlios : sleger: it went up from 890
[2017-03-28 22:58:58] abbey : 9.91 users talkin here @sleger
[2017-03-28 22:59:20] Alignment : i didnt buy the dip
[2017-03-28 22:59:21] Alignment : was here
[2017-03-28 22:59:30] Alignment : was trash talking btc, calling it dirty coin
[2017-03-28 22:59:30] aethlios : shorts opened to the retrace 950-970 closed above 1000, now if we go below 1000, will be afraid to open again.
[2017-03-28 22:59:52] abbey : we're going down hard
[2017-03-28 22:59:58] Alignment : aethlios: smart analysis, i think thats exactly what happened
[2017-03-28 23:00:01] stf28 : aethlios: and you will surely be right
[2017-03-28 23:00:30] MikeHunt : the other thing is fundamentals
[2017-03-28 23:00:37] MikeHunt : etf was all btc really had going for it
[2017-03-28 23:00:43] MikeHunt : to seperate it from the likes of eth
[2017-03-28 23:00:46] Alignment : no
[2017-03-28 23:00:53] stf28 : MikeHunt: and gold parity ?
[2017-03-28 23:00:58] aethlios : i remember from 2013-2015 bear market, short squeeze is hard, bear rallies are retracing 75% or even 100% of the dump.
[2017-03-28 23:01:09] Alignment : eth is a premine shitcoin created by banks to grab btc from naive people
[2017-03-28 23:01:10] MikeHunt : stf28: 6 yr currency vs 6000 yr currency? lol
[2017-03-28 23:01:13] Alignment : it has 0 future
[2017-03-28 23:01:28] Alignment : btc will go up very hard in a few weeks/months and let all alts behind
[2017-03-28 23:01:31] MikeHunt : Alignment: it has leadership, so does ltc
[2017-03-28 23:01:39] Alignment : you dont want leadership
[2017-03-28 23:01:47] Alignment : this is decentralized crypto
[2017-03-28 23:01:51] Alignment : btc is perfect as it is
[2017-03-28 23:01:53] Alignment : no need for update
[2017-03-28 23:01:56] MikeHunt : Alignment: in a crisis you do, with HF going around
[2017-03-28 23:02:00] stf28 : MikeHunt: exactly it's a good advertisment and noble price :)
[2017-03-28 23:02:03] sleger : MikeHunt: ltc ? are you back to mikeDumb ?
[2017-03-28 23:02:03] Alignment : this is just faction fighting
[2017-03-28 23:02:16] aethlios : Alignment: keep paying the fees.
[2017-03-28 23:02:26] Alignment : i dont mind the fees
[2017-03-28 23:02:29] MikeHunt : sleger: ill buy if charlee can turn it around, until then its dead
[2017-03-28 23:02:30] Alignment : i like it as digital gold
[2017-03-28 23:02:37] Alignment : we'll use litecoin for cofee ;)
[2017-03-28 23:02:42] Alignment : everyone will be happy
[2017-03-28 23:03:01] sleger : MikeHunt: "MikeHunt: Alignment: it has leadership, so does ltc"
[2017-03-28 23:03:21] Alignment : sleger: whats ur take on btc
[2017-03-28 23:03:22] sleger : ltc has leadership, but you dont mention eth, what a bunch of dummies
[2017-03-28 23:03:43] MikeHunt : sleger: eth does too...
[2017-03-28 23:03:47] MikeHunt : so does dash
[2017-03-28 23:04:02] sleger : cant compare ltc and eth, unless you're a "moran"
[2017-03-28 23:04:04] Alignment : these are shitcoins lol
[2017-03-28 23:04:09] aethlios : Alignment: those phases "digital gold" "decentralized" etc. are marketing words from btc holders, no logic behind.
[2017-03-28 23:04:12] Alignment : eth dash they are just crypto trash
[2017-03-28 23:04:24] sleger : ^ another moran
[2017-03-28 23:04:31] sleger : look at eth market cap
[2017-03-28 23:04:38] sleger : look again in 12 months
[2017-03-28 23:04:57] MikeHunt : sleger: not comparing, nothing wrong with diversification?
[2017-03-28 23:05:32] sleger : yes, when its shit its shit its not diversification
[2017-03-28 23:05:57] Alignment : when i buy an altcoin my only goal is to increaes my btc stash
[2017-03-28 23:06:13] Alignment : aethlios: whats your goal when u do? increase usd stash?
[2017-03-28 23:06:49] sleger : my goal is to increase my eth stack
[2017-03-28 23:06:51] Apocalyptic : Alignment: I thought you sold all your cold storage ?
[2017-03-28 23:07:06] Alignment : Apocalyptic: i did i mostly in alts right now
[2017-03-28 23:07:11] sleger : he also thinks eth is a shitcoin lol
[2017-03-28 23:07:12] Alignment : Apocalyptic: alts and usd
[2017-03-28 23:07:16] sleger : but he is in alts
[2017-03-28 23:07:19] sleger : what a dummy
[2017-03-28 23:07:26] Alignment : because alts are in a bullmarket
[2017-03-28 23:07:28] sleger : wont last long
[2017-03-28 23:07:42] Alignment : i did x200% since january first lol
[2017-03-28 23:07:51] sleger : def wont last long then
[2017-03-28 23:08:04] Alignment : :D
[2017-03-28 23:08:07] aethlios : Alignment: increase wealth stash and have a well diversified portfolio of assets, so because my trading capital is in usd i am hedged with silver and gold. also real estate, agricultural land, i have now 6 alts, and interested in stocks after market crashes.
[2017-03-28 23:08:08] sleger : also fyi you can say x2
[2017-03-28 23:08:09] Apocalyptic : sleger made 6 figures too
[2017-03-28 23:08:11] sleger : just easier
[2017-03-28 23:08:20] Alignment : sleger: 200% is actually x3
[2017-03-28 23:08:31] sleger : Apocalyptic: how do you go from 200% to 6 figures
[2017-03-28 23:08:43] Alignment : guy tells me wont alst long but can't do simple math lol
[2017-03-28 23:08:45] sleger : Alignment: you said "x200%"
[2017-03-28 23:09:11] sleger : Alignment: "[2017-03-28 23:07:42] Alignment : i did x200% since january first lol"
[2017-03-28 23:09:28] sleger : i just converted your "200%" to 2 because why not
[2017-03-28 23:09:31] sleger : dummy
[2017-03-28 23:09:42] Apocalyptic : sleger: not impying he made that much, just that he isn't the only one who made good returns
[2017-03-28 23:09:49] Apocalyptic : *implying
[2017-03-28 23:10:08] MikeHunt : alignment vs sledger.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvBFjdYnW4U
[2017-03-28 23:10:26] sleger : Apocalyptic: I wouldnt even want to be compared with that
[2017-03-28 23:10:49] sleger : Apocalyptic: also 1m is 7 figures not 6
[2017-03-28 23:11:04] Apocalyptic : sleger: very nice
[2017-03-28 23:15:29] stf28 : sleger: here?
[2017-03-28 23:15:47] sleger : just type you'll see
[2017-03-28 23:19:31] sleger : stf28: here?
[2017-03-28 23:19:54] stf28 : sleger: you made so uch money here?
[2017-03-28 23:20:04] stf28 : it's like 1000 btc
[2017-03-28 23:20:22] sleger : i didnt say it was here
[2017-03-28 23:20:32] sleger : large part was from eth
[2017-03-28 23:21:18] stf28 : nice
[2017-03-28 23:21:42] stf28 : i'd like to do the same but it seems i suck at trading
[2017-03-28 23:22:52] stf28 : anyway i'm shocked to see how much money can be made here
[2017-03-28 23:23:01] stf28 : and lost also
[2017-03-28 23:23:40] sleger : listen to the trollbox
[2017-03-28 23:23:44] sleger : do the opposite of it
[2017-03-28 23:23:51] sleger : 1 weight per moron
[2017-03-28 23:24:03] sleger : always worked
[2017-03-28 23:24:22] hmmmYea : ^ so do whatever you see in the trollvox
[2017-03-28 23:24:53] sleger : or not
[2017-03-28 23:25:04] ross : worked for me
[2017-03-28 23:25:10] ross : im now negative bitcoin
[2017-03-28 23:25:18] sleger : there are some smart voices here, but not many, they know each other too
[2017-03-28 23:25:44] thxforyourbtc! : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY11UJEeDuI&feature=youtu.be lmao
[2017-03-28 23:26:12] ross : jesus
[2017-03-28 23:26:31] stf28 : sleger: lol perfect
[2017-03-28 23:26:38] ross : thats what happens when you buy a lot of meth with your presale pump
[2017-03-28 23:27:47] stf28 : i noticed there's a lot of french guys here
[2017-03-28 23:28:47] alejandromasari : thxforyourbtc!: lol
[2017-03-28 23:32:35] sleger : alejandromasari: @thxforyourbtc! you 2 here at the same time again, what a yuuuuuge coincidence
[2017-03-28 23:32:43] alejandromasari : lol
[2017-03-28 23:33:12] Satoshiforsegwit : @sleger you need to eat a puzzy and relax
[2017-03-28 23:33:38] Satoshiforsegwit : sleger: you're too uptight
[2017-03-28 23:33:56] sleger : i dont talk to irc pussies
[2017-03-28 23:36:45] Satoshiforsegwit : you should
[2017-03-28 23:41:32] sleger : Satoshiforsegwit: i probably also should trust my money with alejandro to manage for me, right ?
[2017-03-28 23:51:11] Ahhere : Guise when do we hit 1300 this is getting boring.
[2017-03-28 23:51:19] sleger : alejandromasari: how is wall st canada ?
[2017-03-28 23:53:28] ross : time for fct
[2017-03-28 23:54:23] Ahhere : Who sold @ 880?
[2017-03-28 23:56:55] mark121 : down
[2017-03-29 00:07:11] \//\ : dang quarterly dumping
[2017-03-29 00:08:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80 @ 1035.51
[2017-03-29 00:10:01] ross : lol +0.4 on factom in 5mins
[2017-03-29 00:10:19] ross : dang its pumping on polo
[2017-03-29 00:10:24] \//\ : wow wtf FCT
[2017-03-29 00:10:40] \//\ : up 14%
[2017-03-29 00:10:40] ross : got in at 0035
[2017-03-29 00:11:30] \//\ : that coin is one of the most manipulative
[2017-03-29 00:11:42] \//\ : the total supply has actually gone down over the years
[2017-03-29 00:11:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 6000 @ 0.004220
[2017-03-29 00:12:52] ross : lol fct new monthly ath
[2017-03-29 00:13:22] ubba : new 30 sec all time high
[2017-03-29 00:13:52] Gr33d : ald -_-
[2017-03-29 00:13:58] ross : ye same
[2017-03-29 00:14:13] ross : why did i get adl'd
[2017-03-29 00:14:48] \//\ : barely anyone in FCT
[2017-03-29 00:14:56] \//\ : probably just MM on 1x or something and then you
[2017-03-29 00:15:09] \//\ : and the guy that was just margin called on leverage
[2017-03-29 00:15:22] ross : sad
[2017-03-29 00:15:30] ross : o well .6 profit cant be upset
[2017-03-29 00:16:30] ubba : BREAKING NEWS
[2017-03-29 00:17:12] \//\ : BTC taking a shit
[2017-03-29 00:17:23] ross : whats the news
[2017-03-29 00:17:25] ross : etf declined?
[2017-03-29 00:21:00] vgck : SolidX rejected
[2017-03-29 00:21:51] DorianWhack-A-Moto : market dont care about solidx. it was 100% going to get rejected.
[2017-03-29 00:22:39] DorianWhack-A-Moto : hey they even rejected it early lol. thought the deadline was march 31
[2017-03-29 00:27:08] ubba : fuk you
[2017-03-29 00:27:34] DorianWhack-A-Moto : that wheelchair moran is even taunting Tone Vays on twitter now. i want some of what he's smoking. being delusional would be fun for a short period.
[2017-03-29 00:27:59] ubba : whos that
[2017-03-29 00:28:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : who? the wheelchair moron or Tone Vays?
[2017-03-29 00:28:32] ubba : yes
[2017-03-29 00:28:36] ubba : that guy
[2017-03-29 00:28:54] ross : seems dash may be next for a mini pump
[2017-03-29 00:29:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ubba: wheelchair moron comes here under different names posting chart screenshots, Tone Vays is a podcaster and trader
[2017-03-29 00:29:59] ubba : oh
[2017-03-29 00:30:09] ubba : oh fuck that idiot who spams his twitter
[2017-03-29 00:30:14] Wonker : Ross, why you say that?
[2017-03-29 00:30:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : yeah thats him
[2017-03-29 00:30:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ubba: the twitter moron yes
[2017-03-29 00:30:31] ubba : hes in a wheelchair?
[2017-03-29 00:30:33] ross : Wonker: its no longer shit alts getting pumped
[2017-03-29 00:30:35] ubba : poor guy
[2017-03-29 00:30:54] Wonker : I though Dash was a fraud
[2017-03-29 00:31:04] Wonker : Guy bof hind it was a crook
[2017-03-29 00:31:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ubba: i dunno his twitter handle is wheelchairjuice
[2017-03-29 00:31:54] Wonker : ross: *guy behind it was a fraud
[2017-03-29 00:32:49] ross : im not sure.. all i know is there are 40mins of green candles and some decent volume. could be wrong
[2017-03-29 00:33:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ubba: maybe you should be nice to him. he controls all the markets > http://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846873287174975488
[2017-03-29 00:34:44] ubba : lol i finally checked out the page what the fuck is going on
[2017-03-29 00:35:01] DorianWhack-A-Moto : cocaine is one helluva drug
[2017-03-29 00:35:26] ubba : lol not even cocaine probably some synthetic weeds
[2017-03-29 00:36:09] DorianWhack-A-Moto : wheelchair moron is reading this. he just named me on twitter. hello moron!
[2017-03-29 00:36:34] ubba : lol
[2017-03-29 00:36:38] ubba : twitter shoutouts
[2017-03-29 00:37:25] Shoba : was strange how flat bitfinex stayed for 20 minutes straight right after that dump
[2017-03-29 00:37:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : wheelchair moron. lets duel. announce your position and i'll put in an opposite. see if you can rekt me.
[2017-03-29 00:37:59] Gr33d : Shoba: Not at all
[2017-03-29 00:38:59] Gr33d : Shoba: No volume to the dump, so ppl are holding for rebound, yet others see a $10 drop and are too fearful to buy for a bit...
[2017-03-29 00:39:26] juchide : where to buy fct?
[2017-03-29 00:39:31] juchide : wtf bitmex?
[2017-03-29 00:39:53] DorianWhack-A-Moto : wheelchair moron pussied out of my offer. moron confirmed.
[2017-03-29 00:39:54] Shoba : Gr33d: usually there's a bit of a battle between the dip buyers and the panic sellers though, but it didn't seem to vary by more than like 20 cents
[2017-03-29 00:40:49] Shoba : it looks like the bearwhale formation, so maybe i just didn't notice if there was a small sell wall there
[2017-03-29 00:41:26] Shoba : guess that must have been it
[2017-03-29 00:42:42] stf28 : Shoba: test dump
[2017-03-29 00:42:54] stf28 : they evaluate buyers/sellers
[2017-03-29 00:43:00] stf28 : at this price
[2017-03-29 00:45:22] DorianWhack-A-Moto : juchide: bitemex is a directives market. go to polo to buy alts
[2017-03-29 00:46:01] DorianWhack-A-Moto : *derivatives
[2017-03-29 00:47:18] Rado : You can see the volume going up is way less than the volume going down
[2017-03-29 00:47:32] Rado : we are not done with the downtrend
[2017-03-29 00:48:26] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-03-29 00:48:31] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1032.63 (-1.33%) Bitfinex : 1034.20 (-1.10%) The Woodchipper : 1032.47 (-1.39%) itBit : 1034.77 (-1.02%) Kraken : 1035.10 (-1.22%) GDAX : 1036.53 (-1.18%) SLQ : 6 hours, 48 mins```
[2017-03-29 00:49:44] stf28 : Rado: cumuled over bfx/bitstamp there was 5,3k btc green the last 4h
[2017-03-29 00:52:40] Coconuter : lol
[2017-03-29 01:01:38] aguia7 : https://losgifs.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/original.gif?w=492
[2017-03-29 01:01:42] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /rekt
[2017-03-29 01:01:42] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 4 hours, 16 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 330000 @ 0.00000924 ``` ``` 7 hours, ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200000 @ 1044.60 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 10 hours, 48 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 135000 @ 1054.79 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-03-29 01:01:45] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /rrekt
[2017-03-29 01:01:46] trollbot : ``` 3 all time high REKTs: ``` ``` 26 hours, 51 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1140000 @ 0.00000883 ``` ``` 285 hours, 24 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 689089 @ 1126.18 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 249 hours, 30 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 656927 @ 985.40 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-29 01:01:49] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:01:51] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 41.62 / 58.38 Daily : 50.04 / 49.97 Weekly : 50.78 / 49.22 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:01:54] DorianWhack-B-Moto : :)
[2017-03-29 01:02:22] DorianWhack-B-Moto : https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846888351223365632
[2017-03-29 01:02:26] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Trade that
[2017-03-29 01:02:55] DorianWhack-A-Moto : impersonation is the most sincere form of flattery
[2017-03-29 01:03:08] DorianWhack-A-Moto : you must really like me wheelchair moron.
[2017-03-29 01:03:10] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Which is why you follow my Twitter
[2017-03-29 01:03:33] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What's your Twitter handle? I'm certain I'm not following you
[2017-03-29 01:03:47] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i dont follow your twitter. i stumbled back on it looking at others twitters. i did need a good laugh so thanks for that.
[2017-03-29 01:04:01] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Welcome. Have some more :)
[2017-03-29 01:04:53] DorianWhack-A-Moto : why dont you go troll roger ver. you would get more followers.
[2017-03-29 01:05:09] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Because pretending like I'm not you is funny
[2017-03-29 01:05:59] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /rrrekt
[2017-03-29 01:06:22] DorianWhack-A-Moto : make a price call. up from here or down?
[2017-03-29 01:06:35] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What instrument?
[2017-03-29 01:06:41] DorianWhack-A-Moto : btcusd
[2017-03-29 01:06:47] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Down
[2017-03-29 01:06:53] DorianWhack-B-Moto : For you that is :)
[2017-03-29 01:07:10] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ok im going all in long
[2017-03-29 01:07:16] DorianWhack-B-Moto : K xD
[2017-03-29 01:07:49] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let me show you something
[2017-03-29 01:08:20] DorianWhack-B-Moto : https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846787519215628288
[2017-03-29 01:08:54] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Your long will be liquidated and then your short will be liquidated. I'll do this until you have nothing to live for
[2017-03-29 01:09:27] DorianWhack-A-Moto : you're so scary i just pissed myself. please dont rekt me.
[2017-03-29 01:09:43] DorianWhack-B-Moto : No amount of begging will change my mind
[2017-03-29 01:10:18] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:10:20] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.06 / 66.95 Daily : 49.97 / 50.03 Weekly : 50.77 / 49.23 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:10:24] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Diff cannon loaded
[2017-03-29 01:10:38] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Prepare to see insane ALT short liquidation :)
[2017-03-29 01:11:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : name the alt. making random statements dont mean anything. name names mofo.
[2017-03-29 01:11:11] DorianWhack-B-Moto : All of 'em
[2017-03-29 01:11:33] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Since you're a Market Wizard, you name one :P
[2017-03-29 01:11:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : im not the one making bullshit claims so i have no statements to back up.
[2017-03-29 01:12:06] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Same
[2017-03-29 01:12:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : lol
[2017-03-29 01:12:47] DorianWhack-B-Moto : XMR incoming LOL
[2017-03-29 01:13:04] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Ready?
[2017-03-29 01:13:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : sure. pump it. im waiting.
[2017-03-29 01:13:32] DorianWhack-B-Moto : I'm dumping...
[2017-03-29 01:13:38] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You read like you trade
[2017-03-29 01:13:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : you said you were liquidating shorts
[2017-03-29 01:13:47] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Yep
[2017-03-29 01:13:56] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What do you think happens to that tension?
[2017-03-29 01:14:08] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You don't know what a short is. That's why
[2017-03-29 01:14:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : oh so you're going to get everyone ADL'd?
[2017-03-29 01:14:31] DorianWhack-A-Moto : what drugs are you on. i wanna try it.
[2017-03-29 01:14:38] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What does the Anti-Defamation League have to do with this?
[2017-03-29 01:15:08] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Get Wrecked https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846893420484292615
[2017-03-29 01:15:25] DorianWhack-A-Moto : alright its been fun moron but im going back to making money now.
[2017-03-29 01:15:33] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Sure you are
[2017-03-29 01:15:43] DorianWhack-B-Moto : That's code for 'Wrecked'
[2017-03-29 01:16:06] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:16:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.75 / 69.25 Daily : 50.03 / 49.97 Weekly : 50.77 / 49.23 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:17:39] DorianWhack-B-Moto : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Be sure to say hello in 1-hour https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846893946139664389
[2017-03-29 01:18:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : nah i'll pass.
[2017-03-29 01:18:13] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You will :)
[2017-03-29 01:19:11] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Accurate? https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846894435619135491
[2017-03-29 01:19:40] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:19:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 25.55 / 74.45 Daily : 50.03 / 49.97 Weekly : 50.77 / 49.23 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:19:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : /fork
[2017-03-29 01:19:48] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 868.10 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 185.79 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-29 01:19:49] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Look at those numbers
[2017-03-29 01:20:16] DorianWhack-A-Moto : anybody else here? dont leave me alone with the moron.
[2017-03-29 01:20:35] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Yes, let's pretend like we don't have two private windows open to get our trade in
[2017-03-29 01:21:03] DorianWhack-B-Moto : This is called 'bad cop worst cop'
[2017-03-29 01:21:33] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let's check the hourly. Shall we?
[2017-03-29 01:21:35] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:21:37] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 24.86 / 75.14 Daily : 50.05 / 49.95 Weekly : 50.77 / 49.23 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:21:45] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Much increase
[2017-03-29 01:21:49] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Ready?
[2017-03-29 01:22:11] DorianWhack-B-Moto : It's going to be all of 'em, but $XMR specifically since you want me to make you a fool
[2017-03-29 01:23:20] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /fork
[2017-03-29 01:23:21] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 868.10 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 185.79 (0.00%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-03-29 01:23:30] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Yah, don't see that one happening
[2017-03-29 01:24:52] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Volume? https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846895859417530369
[2017-03-29 01:25:05] DorianWhack-A-Moto : told you i was going long at 1028. over leveraged so you could easily rekt me. while you've been jerking made profit. try again.
[2017-03-29 01:25:37] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What?
[2017-03-29 01:25:41] DorianWhack-B-Moto : English, please
[2017-03-29 01:26:13] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Last hourly was 75.14. Let's see what it is now
[2017-03-29 01:26:16] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:26:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 25.19 / 74.81 Daily : 49.90 / 50.10 Weekly : 50.78 / 49.22 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:26:25] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Now comes the diff slide :)
[2017-03-29 01:26:36] DorianWhack-A-Moto : DorianWhack-B-Moto: english = you've made no money and I have. try again.
[2017-03-29 01:26:39] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Do you know what a IRCFD is?
[2017-03-29 01:26:54] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You're about to find out :)
[2017-03-29 01:26:54] DorianWhack-A-Moto : try again.
[2017-03-29 01:27:13] DorianWhack-B-Moto : I don't try. That's why I win. No effort required
[2017-03-29 01:27:23] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You wish you could be as dead as me
[2017-03-29 01:27:26] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Numb
[2017-03-29 01:27:29] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Trading God
[2017-03-29 01:27:54] DorianWhack-B-Moto : My margin is at 25% right now
[2017-03-29 01:27:58] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You should come wreck me
[2017-03-29 01:28:04] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Pick a direction
[2017-03-29 01:29:16] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let's check the slide
[2017-03-29 01:29:20] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:29:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.01 / 73.99 Daily : 49.95 / 50.05 Weekly : 50.78 / 49.22 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:29:27] DorianWhack-B-Moto : :)
[2017-03-29 01:29:54] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Ever hear of a meta value?
[2017-03-29 01:30:49] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Inverted Reciprocal Contract For Difference. It's an instrument that I created myself.
[2017-03-29 01:31:03] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Allow me to demonstrate
[2017-03-29 01:31:32] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:31:34] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.90 / 73.10 Daily : 49.97 / 50.03 Weekly : 50.78 / 49.22 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:31:47] DorianWhack-B-Moto : When that sell ratio is sky high, all of you will be wrecked
[2017-03-29 01:32:21] DorianWhack-B-Moto : I win regardless of direction. I never have to adjust my position size
[2017-03-29 01:32:42] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You see, you ride the waves, and I'm the river
[2017-03-29 01:33:12] Rado : DorianWhack-B-Moto: huh?
[2017-03-29 01:33:13] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let's have a quick look at the IRCFD Slide Ratio
[2017-03-29 01:33:17] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:33:18] Rado : you didn't even say what your position is
[2017-03-29 01:33:19] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.32 / 73.68 Daily : 49.95 / 50.06 Weekly : 50.78 / 49.22 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:33:26] Rado : or is it "magic"
[2017-03-29 01:33:41] DorianWhack-B-Moto : My position is to wreck you in either direction
[2017-03-29 01:33:46] DorianWhack-B-Moto : That's my final offer
[2017-03-29 01:34:50] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Rado: https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846883278179131393
[2017-03-29 01:35:50] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:35:53] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.61 / 73.39 Daily : 49.94 / 50.07 Weekly : 50.78 / 49.22 Monthly : 52.42 / 47.58```
[2017-03-29 01:35:53] micmix : DorianWhack-B-Moto: are you river styx running through the land of the rekt?
[2017-03-29 01:35:58] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Lookin' good
[2017-03-29 01:36:14] Rado : micmix: lol
[2017-03-29 01:36:15] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /rekt
[2017-03-29 01:36:15] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 4 hours, 51 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 330000 @ 0.00000924 ``` ``` 7 hours, 35 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200000 @ 1044.60 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 11 hours, 22 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 135000 @ 1054.79 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-03-29 01:36:20] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /rrekt
[2017-03-29 01:36:20] Rado : he seems to be delusional
[2017-03-29 01:36:20] trollbot : ``` 3 all time high REKTs: ``` ``` 27 hours, 25 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1140000 @ 0.00000883 ``` ``` 285 hours, 58 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 689089 @ 1126.18 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 250 hours, 5 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 656927 @ 985.40 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-29 01:37:15] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What's the time on this? https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846596613082570752/photo/1
[2017-03-29 01:37:28] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /fork
[2017-03-29 01:37:28] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 868.10 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 185.79 (0.00%) SLQ : 14 mins```
[2017-03-29 01:37:51] mark121 : hooow looooooow can we go!
[2017-03-29 01:38:56] Rado : mark121: guess
[2017-03-29 01:39:06] Rado : last time we went down to $888
[2017-03-29 01:39:16] Rado : so this tells you that we can go there again
[2017-03-29 01:39:26] DorianWhack-B-Moto : We won't, but okay
[2017-03-29 01:39:27] Rado : and maybe lower if we break that level
[2017-03-29 01:39:37] mark121 : Oh, i thought it told us we went down to 888 last time?
[2017-03-29 01:39:46] Rado : DorianWhack-B-Moto: did you go to the future to check for us?
[2017-03-29 01:39:47] mark121 : im funny
[2017-03-29 01:39:59] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Yep
[2017-03-29 01:40:06] finnagetdooped : ty eth
[2017-03-29 01:40:07] DorianWhack-B-Moto : I am your future
[2017-03-29 01:40:28] Rado : can't wait for REKT to take this guys away
[2017-03-29 01:40:38] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Please do
[2017-03-29 01:40:44] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Speed things up if you can
[2017-03-29 01:40:49] DorianWhack-B-Moto : 1000x leverage please
[2017-03-29 01:40:51] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Pick a direction
[2017-03-29 01:41:22] DorianWhack-B-Moto : I'll go in any direction you tell me too
[2017-03-29 01:41:25] DorianWhack-B-Moto : to *
[2017-03-29 01:41:39] micmix : Rado: is this the second Sir Whack-a-lot? They seem to multiply lol
[2017-03-29 01:41:57] Rado : lol
[2017-03-29 01:41:59] Rado : yeah
[2017-03-29 01:42:11] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What direction. I'll use 1000x leverage
[2017-03-29 01:42:15] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let me know
[2017-03-29 01:42:18] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:42:20] Rado : DorianWhack-B-Moto: go long
[2017-03-29 01:42:20] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 36.17 / 63.84 Daily : 50.13 / 49.87 Weekly : 50.80 / 49.20 Monthly : 52.43 / 47.57```
[2017-03-29 01:42:27] Rado : you don't need 1000%
[2017-03-29 01:42:30] Rado : 100x will do it
[2017-03-29 01:42:35] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Sure. Let me know
[2017-03-29 01:42:41] Rado : I did
[2017-03-29 01:42:45] Rado : go all in long
[2017-03-29 01:42:47] DorianWhack-B-Moto : K
[2017-03-29 01:42:59] Rado : you will be rich
[2017-03-29 01:43:01] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Done
[2017-03-29 01:43:17] DorianWhack-B-Moto : :)
[2017-03-29 01:43:21] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Get ready to get popped
[2017-03-29 01:43:43] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/2yRW5Wr5/
[2017-03-29 01:44:07] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Feel that?
[2017-03-29 01:44:29] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What does green mean?
[2017-03-29 01:44:41] mark121 : its rude the star shud be first target
[2017-03-29 01:44:44] mark121 : crude*
[2017-03-29 01:44:50] mark121 : shud be a lltitle higher
[2017-03-29 01:44:52] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:44:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 35.20 / 64.80 Daily : 50.07 / 49.93 Weekly : 50.79 / 49.21 Monthly : 52.43 / 47.57```
[2017-03-29 01:45:04] DorianWhack-B-Moto : That's odd. The buy sentiment is more
[2017-03-29 01:45:08] DorianWhack-B-Moto : What happened :P
[2017-03-29 01:45:32] mark121 : well we can see that actually it calls for another peak
[2017-03-29 01:45:46] mark121 : so some up b4 the drop wud b ok
[2017-03-29 01:45:47] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let's go up some more
[2017-03-29 01:45:52] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let me know when you had enough
[2017-03-29 01:46:20] mark121 : of up? lol
[2017-03-29 01:46:56] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Incoming wrecked message for XMR :)
[2017-03-29 01:47:02] Rookie : trollbot: how is sell/buy sentiment calculated?
[2017-03-29 01:47:14] mark121 : 1:1
[2017-03-29 01:47:42] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Still going up. I wonder why LOL
[2017-03-29 01:47:51] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You're all my children
[2017-03-29 01:48:00] mark121 : huh
[2017-03-29 01:48:03] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:48:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 37.47 / 62.53 Daily : 50.22 / 49.78 Weekly : 50.80 / 49.20 Monthly : 52.43 / 47.57```
[2017-03-29 01:48:10] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Look at that slide :)
[2017-03-29 01:48:15] DorianWhack-B-Moto : IRCFD for the win
[2017-03-29 01:48:17] Rookie : mark121: why isn't it always 1 then?
[2017-03-29 01:48:28] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Because he doesn't know what he's talking about
[2017-03-29 01:48:29] mark121 : it is
[2017-03-29 01:48:44] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Rado: Why so silent?
[2017-03-29 01:48:48] mark121 : oh od
[2017-03-29 01:48:50] mark121 : ban this kid
[2017-03-29 01:48:59] mark121 : so feeble
[2017-03-29 01:49:06] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Rado: I want to hear your margin pop in real-time
[2017-03-29 01:49:14] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let's go up some more, shall we?
[2017-03-29 01:49:23] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Let's check my diff cannon. More sells this time
[2017-03-29 01:49:26] DorianWhack-B-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-03-29 01:49:29] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 37.61 / 62.39 Daily : 50.00 / 50.00 Weekly : 50.80 / 49.20 Monthly : 52.43 / 47.57```
[2017-03-29 01:49:33] DorianWhack-B-Moto : More sells it is
[2017-03-29 01:49:48] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Well, I'll see you at 3k per-coin
[2017-03-29 01:49:49] mark121 : its as if im reading a book and gloating that i can understand the sentence
[2017-03-29 01:49:49] Rookie : trollbot: where do you gather this data?
[2017-03-29 01:49:56] Rado : DorianWhack-B-Moto: did your parents abuse you?
[2017-03-29 01:50:04] DorianWhack-B-Moto : Yes :)
[2017-03-29 01:50:10] mark121 : is his nickname close to a normal user?
[2017-03-29 01:50:19] Rado : Rookie: trollbot is a bot
[2017-03-29 01:50:19] DorianWhack-B-Moto : It was such a good touch
[2017-03-29 01:50:24] mark121 : or has that always been the same retard
[2017-03-29 01:50:25] Rado : so it can not answer you
[2017-03-29 01:50:25] DorianWhack-B-Moto : You should pass it on to your children