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[2017-03-28 07:47:53] mark121 : 1045 may be a stretch at this pt
[2017-03-28 07:49:02] mark121 : go go go!
[2017-03-28 07:49:10] mark121 : MM power
[2017-03-28 07:49:24] finnagetdooped : 1050 inc
[2017-03-28 07:50:00] Gr33d : Time to short.
[2017-03-28 07:50:21] mark121 : 1050 is unlikely
[2017-03-28 07:50:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15000 @ 1040.40
[2017-03-28 07:56:31] ross : Ah $12 under mark I like it
[2017-03-28 07:58:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 2260 @ 1057.02
[2017-03-28 07:58:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 8956 @ 1059.60
[2017-03-28 07:58:41] ross : lol the 100x ones going down
[2017-03-28 07:59:22] finnagetdooped : unlikely"
[2017-03-28 08:00:03] mark121 : on my chart w eare at 1030
[2017-03-28 08:00:31] mark121 : impressive final push ttho
[2017-03-28 08:00:32] mark121 : undoubtably
[2017-03-28 08:02:15] mark121 : 1045 is a solid close
[2017-03-28 08:02:32] finnagetdooped : where are you 1030
[2017-03-28 08:02:45] mark121 : 7 exchanges summation chart
[2017-03-28 08:02:57] mark121 : but anyway , dusnt mean anything
[2017-03-28 08:02:58] finnagetdooped : booo
[2017-03-28 08:03:04] mark121 : swap is usually ahead :)
[2017-03-28 08:03:18] j8 : china is dragging. okc index is 1022
[2017-03-28 08:03:22] mark121 : it seems double toppy
[2017-03-28 08:03:30] mark121 : if it issnt
[2017-03-28 08:03:38] mark121 : skys the limit :)
[2017-03-28 08:03:57] thomaskikansha : new high for both finex and stamp
[2017-03-28 08:04:04] mark121 : cant beloeve the pattern is still not broken lmao
[2017-03-28 08:08:04] claw : /sentiment
[2017-03-28 08:08:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 23.74 / 76.26 Daily : 46.61 / 53.39 Weekly : 50.34 / 49.66 Monthly : 52.45 / 47.55```
[2017-03-28 08:09:21] mark121 : o wow what a rare CH&S
[2017-03-28 08:09:49] mark121 : this cud have legs hop on
[2017-03-28 08:10:08] finnagetdooped : you switching to bull?
[2017-03-28 08:10:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 110 @ 0.077240
[2017-03-28 08:10:37] Gr33d : mark121: "hop on"
[2017-03-28 08:10:41] mark121 : i was undecided
[2017-03-28 08:10:46] mark121 : well actualy no
[2017-03-28 08:10:49] Gr33d : mark121: Or wait for the resistance to be broken lol...
[2017-03-28 08:10:58] mark121 : a strong bull time is in the works no matter
[2017-03-28 08:11:23] mark121 : jus worried abou dumpy first
[2017-03-28 08:11:59] mark121 : that head and shoulders is still intact lol
[2017-03-28 08:12:13] smokim87 : REKT: for real lol i had 0.25 btc left but ok lol...
[2017-03-28 08:12:43] mark121 : the right shoulder was delayted to such an extrmee angle it almost surpassed the Head
[2017-03-28 08:13:57] finnagetdooped : Just dont fomo mark
[2017-03-28 08:14:23] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 08:14:34] finnagetdooped : buy high sell low
[2017-03-28 08:14:36] mark121 : gr33d, thats the univers
[2017-03-28 08:14:39] smokim87 : ya am done trading here, liquidity is garbage here. I basically donated a btc for nothing lol
[2017-03-28 08:14:48] mark121 : punishin u for being asmartass :;p
[2017-03-28 08:15:10] finnagetdooped : smokim87: ya traded dash, not btc
[2017-03-28 08:16:37] mark121 : as i said, the H&s was still in play
[2017-03-28 08:16:50] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 08:16:52] Dnavid : mark121: got scared for a moment
[2017-03-28 08:17:34] Gr33d : lol
[2017-03-28 08:18:00] Gr33d : I'm calling back down to test 990-1000
[2017-03-28 08:18:06] Gr33d : then a sharp rise
[2017-03-28 08:18:17] mark121 : thats correct
[2017-03-28 08:18:26] mark121 : yes, very
[2017-03-28 08:18:30] Gr33d : Slow downwards though me thinks
[2017-03-28 08:19:02] Ahhere : Bitcoin ded
[2017-03-28 08:19:21] Dnavid : Gr33d: Ok, let's do it
[2017-03-28 08:19:41] Gr33d : Ahhere: Again! :/ classic bitcoin
[2017-03-28 08:19:44] mark121 : KingTuna: Told u to close 1045
[2017-03-28 08:19:45] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-28 08:20:04] Dnavid : Is it me or there is often a pump in btc when sunrise in US?
[2017-03-28 08:20:07] mark121 : universe punishment inc
[2017-03-28 08:20:13] mark121 : yes approx dnavid
[2017-03-28 08:20:22] mark121 : a little b4
[2017-03-28 08:20:32] Gr33d : Dnavid: Sometimes there's a dump tho lol
[2017-03-28 08:20:42] Dnavid : mmm, I see
[2017-03-28 08:20:52] mark121 : alts rnt moving yet
[2017-03-28 08:21:01] Gr33d : Waiting on btc
[2017-03-28 08:21:01] mark121 : eth and dash
[2017-03-28 08:21:11] mark121 : what cud it be up to
[2017-03-28 08:21:56] finnagetdooped : double banga btc up alts down then swap in big move imo
[2017-03-28 08:22:43] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/wevIPwl7/
[2017-03-28 08:23:11] KingTuna : mark121: don't speak too soon boii
[2017-03-28 08:23:21] mark121 : i didnt
[2017-03-28 08:23:27] mark121 : u cud have profited off the same movement twice
[2017-03-28 08:23:49] mark121 : risky business my man!
[2017-03-28 08:24:16] mark121 : im stil rootin for ya
[2017-03-28 08:24:54] KingTuna : mark121: I don't trade out on 200k contracts by $ movements not enough liquidity for that
[2017-03-28 08:25:32] mark121 : lets be fair
[2017-03-28 08:25:37] KingTuna : Not playing with pennies mate
[2017-03-28 08:25:40] mark121 : that cudnt have gone les in my favour
[2017-03-28 08:25:47] mark121 : and 1050 was still 5 off
[2017-03-28 08:26:02] mark121 : a smidgen
[2017-03-28 08:26:06] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-28 08:26:31] KingTuna : 1044 finex
[2017-03-28 08:26:43] KingTuna : still holding
[2017-03-28 08:28:57] mark121 : not worth the anxiety
[2017-03-28 08:29:50] mark121 : go btc go
[2017-03-28 08:32:06] mark121 : gl folks,
[2017-03-28 08:32:21] frog : shorts having one more crack, they getting played atm
[2017-03-28 08:32:35] emcor : guys
[2017-03-28 08:32:40] emcor : you are truly dogs
[2017-03-28 08:32:42] RoftheN : We have BCU on our side, they won't let us shorts down!
[2017-03-28 08:32:43] emcor : predictable dogs
[2017-03-28 08:33:05] emcor : i used to have a dog at home and he is just like you
[2017-03-28 08:33:43] mark121 : selling on finex is up
[2017-03-28 08:34:51] CapitalGains : is there a mod here?
[2017-03-28 08:35:06] boogi : yeah me
[2017-03-28 08:35:16] Gr33d : /mods
[2017-03-28 08:35:31] Gr33d : o
[2017-03-28 08:35:36] mark121 : its itching
[2017-03-28 08:36:05] boogi : same
[2017-03-28 08:36:12] boogi : all these hookers is no good for my health
[2017-03-28 08:36:16] mark121 : if that pull the rug
[2017-03-28 08:36:25] mark121 : they*
[2017-03-28 08:36:57] boogi : dash is going to 0 i think
[2017-03-28 08:37:35] frog : they selling but can't buy back lower
[2017-03-28 08:37:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 1 @ 0.075230
[2017-03-28 08:37:53] frog : unable to recycle
[2017-03-28 08:38:16] mark121 : WOW
[2017-03-28 08:38:25] boogi : i think REKT is a little overstatement on that one
[2017-03-28 08:38:36] Gr33d : lol
[2017-03-28 08:38:52] mark121 : that was me folks, back to the coal mines
[2017-03-28 08:39:03] boogi : not eating dinner tonight
[2017-03-28 08:39:33] Gr33d : xDDD
[2017-03-28 08:39:47] frog : the size of short positions is increasing while price slow;y creeping up
[2017-03-28 08:40:09] boogi : is everybody here shorting dash
[2017-03-28 08:40:36] frog : gl mark
[2017-03-28 08:43:12] frog : there used to be walls at 1050 now its gentle incline
[2017-03-28 08:43:20] Dnavid : frog: where do you see size of short positions?
[2017-03-28 08:43:52] frog : you don't
[2017-03-28 08:44:10] frog : you have to make reasonable assumptions
[2017-03-28 08:44:49] Dnavid : Oh
[2017-03-28 08:44:52] frog : if more volume on way down less on way up net short position increases
[2017-03-28 08:46:49] frog : imagine 2 player game one short one long
[2017-03-28 08:46:55] mark121 : finex data is quite reliable
[2017-03-28 08:46:57] Ahhere : Gr33d: lol
[2017-03-28 08:47:21] mark121 : meaning, it typically reflects the majority of sentiment/exchanges
[2017-03-28 08:47:30] frog : they trade 2 contracts each point on way down 10 points and contract on way up
[2017-03-28 08:47:48] frog : it is reasonable assumption
[2017-03-28 08:48:06] Rado : If we try a few times and can't break 1050 we will retest 1000 or even 960
[2017-03-28 08:48:12] frog : 1 contact on way up what is net position of each at end of game
[2017-03-28 08:48:20] mark121 : ay, however they are likely covering massiv positions ont he way up, and adding on the way down
[2017-03-28 08:48:47] frog : yeah i more than one player game and not all contracts equal
[2017-03-28 08:49:05] mark121 : k goodnight fealls
[2017-03-28 08:49:11] mark121 : im dead
[2017-03-28 08:49:12] mark121 : tired
[2017-03-28 08:49:14] frog : aslo profit taking and recycling
[2017-03-28 08:49:31] frog : mark121: u2 thanks for your help I am learning a lot
[2017-03-28 08:50:17] frog : also same product traded on many different exchanges
[2017-03-28 08:50:43] mark121 : my pleasure
[2017-03-28 08:54:44] KingTuna : mark121: There we go big boy ;)
[2017-03-28 08:54:52] KingTuna : mark121: Im rarely wrong these days
[2017-03-28 08:55:11] KingTuna : these head and shoulders barely work in crypto land
[2017-03-28 08:55:20] Dnavid : frog: thanks for explanation-
[2017-03-28 08:55:35] frog : however if short player is able to force price down he wins big so nothing certain
[2017-03-28 08:58:01] frog : especially if he can buy back when longs are forced to close losing positions
[2017-03-28 08:58:25] frog : or stop losses triggered
[2017-03-28 09:00:21] mark121 : KingTuna: u do realize that a head and shoulders is responible for the rally lol
[2017-03-28 09:01:01] mark121 : but yes
[2017-03-28 09:01:13] frog : i think long atm because at end of recent dump to just below 950 selling stopped once the walls of resistance were eaten
[2017-03-28 09:01:16] mark121 : i actualy argued against htem for months with crypto folks a while back hah
[2017-03-28 09:01:42] frog : there was no long covering
[2017-03-28 09:01:43] mark121 : nevertheless, 200k contacts at 10$ of movement (at the least) aint pennies
[2017-03-28 09:01:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1047.01
[2017-03-28 09:02:33] frog : everything going up across all exchanges
[2017-03-28 09:03:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 192000 @ 1048.18 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-03-28 09:03:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 800 @ 1048.30
[2017-03-28 09:04:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 900 @ 1048.39
[2017-03-28 09:04:16] thomaskikansha : wow
[2017-03-28 09:04:19] finnagetdooped : lol
[2017-03-28 09:05:39] KingTuna : mark121: <3
[2017-03-28 09:05:57] lgmdry : wtf
[2017-03-28 09:06:00] DorianWhack-A-Moto : whats ur target bulls?
[2017-03-28 09:06:08] mark121 : 1140-1160
[2017-03-28 09:06:09] finnagetdooped : 1076 for me
[2017-03-28 09:06:17] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-28 09:06:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 1048.65
[2017-03-28 09:06:21] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2017-03-28 09:06:27] finnagetdooped : first profit taking
[2017-03-28 09:07:05] InvalidUser : http://dailyhaymaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/drevil.png
[2017-03-28 09:07:15] Rado : finnagetdooped: 1076 seems reasonable
[2017-03-28 09:08:17] KingTuna : yeeeeehaaaa finex
[2017-03-28 09:08:28] mark121 : if this ocntinues a little longer
[2017-03-28 09:08:33] mark121 : expecrt more than that
[2017-03-28 09:08:37] mark121 : a massive bull cross
[2017-03-28 09:08:40] mark121 : double crosss
[2017-03-28 09:08:43] mark121 : ona rare indicator
[2017-03-28 09:08:52] mark121 : is getin closer and closer
[2017-03-28 09:09:01] mark121 : 2hr timeframe as well so it'll be a strongy
[2017-03-28 09:09:20] KingTuna : mark121: 1046 tops you thought.. Perhaps a little higher
[2017-03-28 09:09:30] finnagetdooped : lol
[2017-03-28 09:09:35] finnagetdooped : tuna you savage
[2017-03-28 09:09:54] mark121 : for the riht shoulder
[2017-03-28 09:10:40] KingTuna : I just feel that whilst Technical analysis is great and all.. Some go a little far with it to their detriment. One that always favours a side/direction of the market, will always substantiate the technical analysis in their favour
[2017-03-28 09:10:49] mark121 : Kingtuna
[2017-03-28 09:11:01] mark121 : U got by on the seat of your pants
[2017-03-28 09:11:01] mark121 : if that
[2017-03-28 09:11:06] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 09:11:13] mark121 : and technically, 1045
[2017-03-28 09:11:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 8000 @ 1064.87
[2017-03-28 09:11:20] mark121 : i nailed it :)
[2017-03-28 09:11:21] mark121 : <3
[2017-03-28 09:11:27] KingTuna : aha
[2017-03-28 09:13:00] mark121 : its still skirting along the same neckline , check er out :)
[2017-03-28 09:13:28] mark121 : or i show u tom2 me dead and wifie will kill me
[2017-03-28 09:13:38] KingTuna : lol
[2017-03-28 09:13:48] mark121 : safe to say this shit is so manipulated im seeing patterns i havent seen in 10years of professional eequities analysis
[2017-03-28 09:14:30] KingTuna : mark121: How long have you been in cryptos mate? Coz it works very differently to equities, I can assure you
[2017-03-28 09:14:39] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 09:14:56] mark121 : Actually
[2017-03-28 09:15:01] mark121 : its a very rudimentary version
[2017-03-28 09:15:16] mark121 : I mean the money to be made here in unreal
[2017-03-28 09:15:29] mark121 : only recently did BTC begin to deviate from a fractal map essentially
[2017-03-28 09:15:56] mark121 : I had more profit in 2016 from crypto than in 5 years of equities
[2017-03-28 09:17:00] KingTuna : Yeah.. I been in cryptos since April 2013, when BTC was $45.. I seen it all! It often defies TA. Most TA traders here don't necessarily make their fortunes, although does have some relevance. My best trade wasn't a trade, but slapped $30K on LTC in April 2013, watched it waffle and go down 50% and then in November in 5 days, went to $48 and I made $400k..
[2017-03-28 09:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 987 @ 0.045650
[2017-03-28 09:17:06] KingTuna : Shit doesn't always have to make sense
[2017-03-28 09:17:10] mark121 : most ppl in crypto have no or littlr TA
[2017-03-28 09:17:12] mark121 : ability
[2017-03-28 09:17:35] mark121 : and ive noticed ppl r way over confident in relation to their understanding
[2017-03-28 09:17:41] mark121 : tradingview i speak of
[2017-03-28 09:17:59] KingTuna : Just remove emotions and you're all G
[2017-03-28 09:18:16] aethlios : KingTuna: ltc will shine again above ATH!!!
[2017-03-28 09:18:39] KingTuna : aethlios: LOL who knows.. Looks like a dinosaur these days
[2017-03-28 09:18:42] finnagetdooped : i made my btc the old fashioned way, buy 300 btc in 2012 and find the hard drive in 2015
[2017-03-28 09:19:56] l3f : I fully respect aethlios, who has made many excellent calls
[2017-03-28 09:20:01] l3f : but I think the bull trend lives
[2017-03-28 09:20:13] l3f : he's always very bearish on the final leg
[2017-03-28 09:20:18] l3f : which happens to be the reversal
[2017-03-28 09:20:23] boogi : i made a mill on the past few months in btc and dont know TA
[2017-03-28 09:20:26] mark121 : KingTuna: I think you'll get better over time, learn to pick risk vs reward over a hard target .. it takes experience to ignore emotion and critical think
[2017-03-28 09:20:36] aethlios : l3f: https://www.tradingview.com/x/L7eaB6Uy/ (haha)
[2017-03-28 09:20:53] boogi : 20x okcoin ftw
[2017-03-28 09:22:32] Rado : Did wlETH make a new low?
[2017-03-28 09:22:52] aethlios : l3f: i am bullish and have long position now in 6 alts, but bearish of btc, wait to see what happens with the block size issue and the solution. i prefer bu straight and simple solution.
[2017-03-28 09:22:52] mark121 : What you described about LTC seems like just random luck - that can happen in any markets, especially equities good money - crypto can be traded with technical analysis very very well, in fact i made about 100btc a few days ago on ETH solely due to TA
[2017-03-28 09:23:08] heheh lo : when is the HF coming, waiting for cheap coins
[2017-03-28 09:23:14] mark121 : had a firend buy a random bio pharma company, it got bough out at a massive premium of like 9000%
[2017-03-28 09:23:25] mark121 : mad ea killing :)
[2017-03-28 09:24:45] l3f : aethlios: my alt market indicator says alts is currently moving down as a whole
[2017-03-28 09:24:54] mark121 : its like i told u i could land a 747
[2017-03-28 09:25:01] mark121 : and so i try
[2017-03-28 09:25:15] mark121 : i crashe land and blow the shit out of it and eveyrthing else around, but walk away without a scratch
[2017-03-28 09:25:33] mark121 : "told you i could land it"
[2017-03-28 09:25:41] Dnavid : l3f: isn't it like that when btc pumps, that alts tend to go down?
[2017-03-28 09:25:51] mark121 : yes Dnavid
[2017-03-28 09:25:56] l3f : It's based on ALTUSD
[2017-03-28 09:25:57] Dnavid : mark121: k
[2017-03-28 09:26:08] l3f : so people are actually selling them for USD to buy btc
[2017-03-28 09:26:14] l3f : just confirms the up trend on btc
[2017-03-28 09:26:19] Dnavid : l3f: oh thx will look it up
[2017-03-28 09:26:37] aethlios : l3f: my holdings are LTC*4, 1ST* ico 0.07733, Lisk*ico 0.07, Vertcoin*0.05 usd, Veltor*0.55 usd, Zclassic*1.80 usd, noone is pumped yet.
[2017-03-28 09:27:45] Dnavid : l3f: if btc goes down enough, trend will reverse. They all go crashing down. Din't know what that price level is though.
[2017-03-28 09:27:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 1 @ 0.046080
[2017-03-28 09:28:15] aethlios : 1ST will go really well, has interesting model.
[2017-03-28 09:28:19] l3f : Dnavid: crypto market will get rekt as whole if btc tanks too much
[2017-03-28 09:28:34] l3f : but a lot of people are hedging with eth when btc tanks
[2017-03-28 09:28:45] l3f : so if alts move up while btc moves up, you know it's danger zone
[2017-03-28 09:29:30] l3f : all the big alts are in a sea of red
[2017-03-28 09:30:40] aethlios : l3f: all go up because new fiat entering the crypto as an investment asset class, and this will keep growing.
[2017-03-28 09:31:07] l3f : aethlios: aye, I'm pretty bullish on btc long term
[2017-03-28 09:31:58] aethlios : l3f: btc is very risky to hold, i prefer to trade the spreads and speculate to alt pumps.
[2017-03-28 09:32:33] l3f : aethlios: but you're an interest rate trader
[2017-03-28 09:33:47] aethlios : don't forget how easily dumped to 888, ema200 saved bulls from massacre. most possible is market will move from BTC standard to ETH standard, so eth will to the connecting job accross alts.
[2017-03-28 09:34:55] aethlios : if BU take control and solve the block size and RV become the new satoshi, a btc leader then i am super bullish.
[2017-03-28 09:35:08] l3f : aethlios: I think BU fud was a massive shakeout to get rid of some long term "holders"
[2017-03-28 09:35:35] l3f : BU's unfortunately too incompetent to take over
[2017-03-28 09:35:47] l3f : too many technical flaws and people are jumping ship now
[2017-03-28 09:35:47] aethlios : l3f: so you think 95% SW will pass?? or you like 20-30 usd fees??
[2017-03-28 09:36:08] aethlios : why to keep using btc with 20 usd fees?? and not eth??
[2017-03-28 09:36:21] l3f : aethlios: pretty much the situation is this: BU's code's garbage, Segwit people are dipshits
[2017-03-28 09:36:52] longbydefault : wouldn't the good coders move to BU if it is the dominant chain?
[2017-03-28 09:36:54] l3f : aethlios: I think after the meeting they'll come up with something
[2017-03-28 09:37:10] aethlios : l3f: so price can't go higher, fees will make network useless, there is a roof while block size unsolved.
[2017-03-28 09:37:23] l3f : BU has diverged quite far from the core code now
[2017-03-28 09:37:53] l3f : longbydefault: that's true, but more devs are on the core chain then BU right now
[2017-03-28 09:38:19] aethlios : l3f: eth is marching now, if btc can't do th ejob, then the market will move to a new standard.
[2017-03-28 09:38:19] l3f : aethlios: scaling is always fud to shakeout unfortunately
[2017-03-28 09:38:30] l3f : eth chain is massive compared to BTC chain
[2017-03-28 09:38:38] l3f : they'll face scaling issues sooner than you'd think
[2017-03-28 09:39:31] aethlios : l3f: don't you like bu's more straight solution??
[2017-03-28 09:39:53] l3f : aethlios: I like it but core's proposal is techincally superiour
[2017-03-28 09:40:05] l3f : I think they'll comprise and do both
[2017-03-28 09:40:11] l3f : once core devs pull their heads out of their asses
[2017-03-28 09:40:37] l3f : compromise*
[2017-03-28 09:41:25] l3f : If they already did what the promised -> 2mb + segwit we'd already be 2k by now
[2017-03-28 09:42:45] laisee : a little compromise would have resolved this 2 years back. ;-)
[2017-03-28 09:43:30] l3f : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/61sim7/i_am_stepping_down_as_a_moderator_of_rbtc_and
[2017-03-28 09:43:31] l3f : also that ^
[2017-03-28 09:43:38] l3f : fucking lol
[2017-03-28 09:43:57] l3f : just read the title and ignore the text
[2017-03-28 09:44:03] alejandromasari : "I think BU fud was a massive shakeout to get rid of some long term "holders"" CORRECT AGREE
[2017-03-28 09:45:30] laisee : the shaekeout was a side effect of the 2-3 year stalemate in BTC development. I expect worse in next few months
[2017-03-28 09:47:02] l3f : even if bitcoin doesn't scale it works fine as a store of value
[2017-03-28 09:47:09] l3f : and the fee market continues while holding the status quo
[2017-03-28 09:47:26] l3f : once fees drive out the people doing micropayments it will be literally digital gold
[2017-03-28 09:48:34] laisee : hmmm. thats where I disagree, BTC as digital gold is no more useful than any pile of bits. And if miners can't make money becos ppl can't xfer then BTC is doomed.
[2017-03-28 09:49:03] l3f : laisee: fee market will ensure people pay enough fees though
[2017-03-28 09:49:20] l3f : you don't get in the block if you don't pay above X, and you'll be outbid by other people trying to get a TX in
[2017-03-28 09:49:42] laisee : who will keep paying 1$+ to xfer? ETH works fine, as does DASH etc etc
[2017-03-28 09:50:27] l3f : laisee: btc network will be most secure
[2017-03-28 09:50:48] l3f : either way it's better than (physical deliver) gold
[2017-03-28 09:50:53] l3f : not much better
[2017-03-28 09:50:57] laisee : secured by miners giving away electricity? I don't think so.
[2017-03-28 09:52:11] laisee : s/be no users => no fees => no miners ==> no value, no future ;-)
[2017-03-28 09:54:12] laisee : but good asset for speculation as long as ppl believe its "gold".
[2017-03-28 09:56:12] l3f : Anyways fundamentals are good as well
[2017-03-28 09:56:21] l3f : slight uncertainty in global stock markets
[2017-03-28 10:00:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40 @ 1057.01
[2017-03-28 10:00:21] reyno : how do you get cryptowatch to show the fib lines?
[2017-03-28 10:01:29] l3f : Ah BU's over because largest mining pool bitfury is signalling segwit
[2017-03-28 10:01:36] l3f : this is why
[2017-03-28 10:02:17] reyno : anyone??
[2017-03-28 10:02:54] l3f : reyno: use tradingview like a normal person
[2017-03-28 10:07:02] aethlios : l3f: those words "store of value", "digital gold" are marketing from the holders.
[2017-03-28 10:07:17] l3f : aethlios: haha
[2017-03-28 10:07:22] l3f : it is what it is
[2017-03-28 10:07:36] l3f : w/e it makes me some pocket moeny
[2017-03-28 10:07:38] l3f : so be it
[2017-03-28 10:08:00] l3f : I bought eth because I knew it was going to pump sky fucking high
[2017-03-28 10:08:07] l3f : I can't give two shits about "smart" contracts
[2017-03-28 10:08:39] aethlios : l3f: the google of crypto maybe haven't been mined yet.
[2017-03-28 10:08:52] l3f : lmao
[2017-03-28 10:09:07] l3f : buy first ask questions later
[2017-03-28 10:09:14] l3f : by then we're too rich to care
[2017-03-28 10:09:50] KingTuna : mark121: ;)
[2017-03-28 10:09:55] reyno : l3f: Where is it on there?
[2017-03-28 10:10:16] aethlios : l3f: dinosaurs didn't survive because didn't adopt, and btc started loosing the game, alts % in total market cap increases fast.
[2017-03-28 10:10:51] l3f : aethlios: it's true, but alts don't have adoption nearly as wide as btc
[2017-03-28 10:10:59] mark121 : meow howd u kno i was being a bad husband
[2017-03-28 10:11:46] aethlios : l3f: now, but the trend looks to the future. eth has the market cap btc had before 18 months.
[2017-03-28 10:11:47] mark121 : ive been brushing my teeth for 45 mins
[2017-03-28 10:12:15] l3f : aethlios: true I think eth will be very interesting
[2017-03-28 10:12:19] l3f : a lot of work is going into it
[2017-03-28 10:13:14] aethlios : l3f: it can fail also, as you sai has many problems, but the market always vote with $$ a better leader. maybe the 5th leader crypto survive for 20-30 usd.
[2017-03-28 10:13:23] KingTuna : 1046 well surpassed now
[2017-03-28 10:13:36] l3f : aethlios: market is too much interested in speculation P&D then actual use
[2017-03-28 10:13:38] aethlios : 20 30 years i mean
[2017-03-28 10:14:12] aethlios : l3f: p&d is a micro cycle to the greater business cycle.
[2017-03-28 10:14:32] mark121 : did u understand that I thought 1046 was a hard top? it was for the scalp at the time lol ive been talking about a super bullish cross on the horizon for 12 hrs
[2017-03-28 10:15:13] KingTuna : :D
[2017-03-28 10:15:29] mark121 : coincidently why I am "brushing my teeth" for 45 mins
[2017-03-28 10:15:39] mark121 : the same reason why* :)
[2017-03-28 10:15:55] frog : dental hygeine is important
[2017-03-28 10:17:22] Dnavid : mark121: In your opinion, what's the top now?
[2017-03-28 10:18:25] mark121 : quite frankly these are somewhat uncertain times, they have been since we deviated the fractal patterning BTC has followed since it was created on the rally beyond 1170+
[2017-03-28 10:19:00] mark121 : skys the limit but short term.. sec
[2017-03-28 10:20:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 3 @ 0.078709
[2017-03-28 10:21:39] Dnavid : mark121: thanks
[2017-03-28 10:21:41] aethlios : i think delusional people biased like the Pavlov's Dogs keep buying btc now.
[2017-03-28 10:22:20] mark121 : if u takea look at accumulation
[2017-03-28 10:22:36] mark121 : the vast majority of coins are still held by the same folks
[2017-03-28 10:22:47] Dnavid : aethlios: If I'm not mistaken the volume is very high. Perhaps a lot of money has come in lately and thqt is providing support for price?
[2017-03-28 10:23:20] mark121 : Honestly, its a littel difficult to nail the pattern but this rally could easily surpass 1100
[2017-03-28 10:23:46] mark121 : on a laptop especially
[2017-03-28 10:23:46] Dnavid : mark121: wow
[2017-03-28 10:23:48] mahouni : Theres literally so small chances that its impossible to rally to top 1100
[2017-03-28 10:24:07] aethlios : Dnavid: http://coinmarketcap.com/charts/ those charts are useful.
[2017-03-28 10:24:28] mark121 : its a good sign if ppl think chances are near zero
[2017-03-28 10:24:42] mark121 : means its the pefect time
[2017-03-28 10:24:54] Dnavid : aethlios: Thanks!
[2017-03-28 10:25:04] mahouni : no people think theyre missing out on a rally to 1400
[2017-03-28 10:25:13] mahouni : they will be shaken out trust me
[2017-03-28 10:25:48] mark121 : Oh u first coment was a double negative
[2017-03-28 10:26:04] mark121 : meaning, u think its almost certain we can go over 1100?
[2017-03-28 10:26:33] frog : mahouni: at what price level would you add to your short position?
[2017-03-28 10:26:46] mark121 : i wouldnt
[2017-03-28 10:26:48] aethlios : Dnavid: btc loosing it's status fast, and huge fiat is invested in alts now and in blockchain tech generally.
[2017-03-28 10:27:12] mark121 : add to your short when u see its going down
[2017-03-28 10:27:16] mark121 : or open a short :p
[2017-03-28 10:27:18] mahouni : I put a tester small no matter short and i will feel the market
[2017-03-28 10:27:49] mahouni : i will put my real short in when its time, not quite yet i feel
[2017-03-28 10:29:04] Gr33d : /fork
[2017-03-28 10:29:08] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 844.99 (0.72%) Bitfinex BCU : 203.63 (-5.03%) SLQ : 5 hours, 2 mins```
[2017-03-28 10:30:42] Dnavid : aethlios: Not sure if btc really losing status vs alts, except perhaps for eth, maybe, one day. I see it as in crisis mode, alts are just a safe place to put your btc while it's in crisis. If I am right, alts will fall too once btc starts crashing for real.
[2017-03-28 10:32:38] aethlios : Dnavid: btc crashes now have less and less effect in alts, investors look each alt differently. dash was pumping while btc was crashing from 1300 to 900
[2017-03-28 10:33:06] binacoin : it will start going down now
[2017-03-28 10:33:17] aethlios : many who are in alts now don't care about btc.
[2017-03-28 10:33:24] Gr33d : binacoin: nah
[2017-03-28 10:34:01] thomaskikansha : bitcoinn still looking strong
[2017-03-28 10:34:09] binacoin : gravestone doji formed in 30m
[2017-03-28 10:34:15] binacoin : after 3 green candles
[2017-03-28 10:34:58] mark121 : nah
[2017-03-28 10:35:17] mark121 : cud take this to 1080-1090 based on measure rule
[2017-03-28 10:35:29] mark121 : tends to be quite accurate
[2017-03-28 10:35:40] Gr33d : binacoin: Sorry, are you looking at a different chart?
[2017-03-28 10:36:01] mark121 : i think hes looking at a graveyard
[2017-03-28 10:36:07] Gr33d : LOL
[2017-03-28 10:36:13] binacoin : lol
[2017-03-28 10:36:15] binacoin : bitstamp
[2017-03-28 10:36:57] Gr33d : Shorters @ 1060?
[2017-03-28 10:37:33] mark121 : 30 min looks sexy
[2017-03-28 10:37:42] KingTuna : mark121: lol always a justification if TA doesn't go the way originally planned
[2017-03-28 10:37:43] KingTuna : :P
[2017-03-28 10:37:45] Gr33d : /sentiment
[2017-03-28 10:37:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 35.17 / 64.83 Daily : 46.28 / 53.72 Weekly : 50.12 / 49.88 Monthly : 52.43 / 47.57```
[2017-03-28 10:37:53] mark121 : huh
[2017-03-28 10:38:10] KingTuna : Im just out to make a quick 10-15 easy BTC and I'll close . Quite simple
[2017-03-28 10:38:28] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 10:39:47] mahouni : KingTuna: On your way up or down?
[2017-03-28 10:42:01] Cbucks : who here trades 100x leverage ?
[2017-03-28 10:42:05] mark121 : Im not sure you understand TA in its application, its not fortune telling, and well, I am sure u have talent but that was kind of a sloppy trade (based on how u think equity and crypto differ) i can tell u that in fact all trading on all assets and markets has elements of luck, skill, instinct, who you know, etc If i were trading your trade, I'd be up on you by 200,000 contacts x 10$ in movement
[2017-03-28 10:42:06] aethlios : brave people buy here, like war heroes.
[2017-03-28 10:42:16] mark121 : i say this in no meanness or anything
[2017-03-28 10:42:21] mark121 : nor condsecendingly
[2017-03-28 10:42:42] mark121 : i just think you've been around too many bAD TA folk
[2017-03-28 10:42:58] Gr33d : aethlios: Shoerts are worried now lol
[2017-03-28 10:43:24] mark121 : but its not one trad eright
[2017-03-28 10:43:28] mark121 : or one right time
[2017-03-28 10:43:51] Cbucks : if i trade with 100x leverage and go long with $800 on btc/usd what will my profit margin look like
[2017-03-28 10:44:05] Cbucks : sorry i am new to using such high leverage
[2017-03-28 10:44:13] mark121 : its the sum of the parts, and consistency and discipline is what allows longevity and ultimately freedom in this cold world of our that values money over integrity
[2017-03-28 10:44:26] mark121 : i digress
[2017-03-28 10:47:01] mark121 : personally id rather not make money but play a trade perfectly, than make a buck but go through it with anxiety
[2017-03-28 10:47:05] Gr33d : Cbucks: How long is a piece of string?
[2017-03-28 10:47:11] mark121 : hah
[2017-03-28 10:50:15] mark121 : dont force trades but when u have a chance, strik ewith all your weight ($) behind u - i said this b4, u only need a few good trades per year to make a living, a good at that.
[2017-03-28 10:50:19] mark121 : good one*
[2017-03-28 10:50:38] Gr33d : mark121: true that
[2017-03-28 10:52:44] mark121 : i hopeit was clear that i wanted u to profit more than I wanted the pattern to play out as it "should" @KingTuna - I am firm believer in lifting those around u and positive karma
[2017-03-28 10:54:00] mark121 : not to mention the all the btc in my cold storage :p
[2017-03-28 10:54:34] mark121 : i was lookin at theold road map for how BTC was seemingly to play out
[2017-03-28 10:54:58] mark121 : was spot on for a while (fractal analysis etc)
[2017-03-28 10:55:28] mark121 : the end ofnext month btc should break 14-15 hundred and go massively vertical
[2017-03-28 10:56:25] mark121 : beginning a new iteration of its main move (if u look at weekly its like a "'y" shape or a soup ladle with the bowl part upside down in profile lol)
[2017-03-28 10:58:01] abbey : feels like top here
[2017-03-28 10:58:16] mark121 : its going to feel like that alot I imagine
[2017-03-28 10:58:24] Dnavid : mark121: bought at $180-$230 last time and wanted to double down. When they started the fork bs I got out. This is what brought me here. If you short btc in $ you make exponential bitcoin. First time trading derivatives, fun!
[2017-03-28 10:58:26] mark121 : they are really jewing every1
[2017-03-28 10:59:20] mark121 : (shaking ourppl try to open high leverage positions)
[2017-03-28 10:59:50] mark121 : with these little turbo dips, and irratic movement
[2017-03-28 11:00:21] mark121 : Dnavid: ya it can be incredble but rmember, it can go away just as fast
[2017-03-28 11:01:39] Dnavid : mark121: I was way up in the leaderboard first leg down, then not so much...
[2017-03-28 11:02:03] mark121 : nice
[2017-03-28 11:02:23] mark121 : oh and fyi, the ETF rejection is one of those "few trades a year"
[2017-03-28 11:02:33] mark121 : meant to give that exmaple b4
[2017-03-28 11:02:42] mark121 : (thats not to anyon ein particular btw)
[2017-03-28 11:02:51] mark121 : k wife is gona divorce me
[2017-03-28 11:02:58] mark121 : gl ttyl
[2017-03-28 11:03:33] KingTuna : mark121: Actually 300k contracts lol.. But already sold 100k of them
[2017-03-28 11:04:33] Dnavid : mark121: yeah took some time off my startup to take care of the etf opportunity. Maybe I can skip a round...
[2017-03-28 11:04:38] binacoin : /sentiment
[2017-03-28 11:04:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 31.73 / 68.27 Daily : 46.03 / 53.97 Weekly : 50.06 / 49.94 Monthly : 52.41 / 47.59```
[2017-03-28 11:07:36] abbey : it's downhill from here imo
[2017-03-28 11:07:45] KyllingLolsson : Dern herl
[2017-03-28 11:08:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 30 @ 1057.99
[2017-03-28 11:11:09] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdcZn4ul_dg btc eth topped, watch the video.
[2017-03-28 11:11:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8000 @ 1052.19
[2017-03-28 11:11:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1052.05
[2017-03-28 11:11:28] jayesh : /rekt
[2017-03-28 11:11:29] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 2 hours, 7 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 192000 @ 1048.18 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 12 hours, 50 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 170000 @ 0.00000856 ``` ``` 13 hours, ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1140000 @ 0.00000883 ```
[2017-03-28 11:11:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 4 @ 0.046400
[2017-03-28 11:11:40] frog : Cbucks: if market or index move 6 points against you. You lose $8. If goes in your favour by 50pts you make $40
[2017-03-28 11:11:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1700 @ 1050.66
[2017-03-28 11:12:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 415 @ 1050.17
[2017-03-28 11:13:03] abbey : welcome REKT, nice to see you
[2017-03-28 11:14:21] frog : Cbucks: with 100x very good chance of liquidation even if you enter trade which may turn out profitable, but if you like the idea of 6pt hard stop it is good method.
[2017-03-28 11:16:51] mahouni : 6pt hard stop is metal
[2017-03-28 11:18:05] frog : may be less depending on index
[2017-03-28 11:18:14] aethlios : they can't hold it more..........
[2017-03-28 11:28:48] frog : aethlios: i agree think 1060 gets taken out this time
[2017-03-28 11:29:46] aethlios : mfi daily didn't go up at all, but price rallied 160 usd.
[2017-03-28 11:30:12] aethlios : fake rally, bear trap ans short squeeze.
[2017-03-28 11:30:50] frog : smart trading
[2017-03-28 11:39:44] Dnavid : /fork
[2017-03-28 11:39:45] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 844.99 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 203.63 (0.00%) SLQ : 1 hour, 10 mins```
[2017-03-28 11:47:28] Mandark : /sentiment
[2017-03-28 11:47:31] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 35.45 / 64.55 Daily : 45.85 / 54.15 Weekly : 50.04 / 49.96 Monthly : 52.41 / 47.59```
[2017-03-28 11:47:45] Mandark : /price
[2017-03-28 11:47:47] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1057.72 (1.89%) Bitfinex : 1057.70 (1.73%) The Woodchipper : 1052.91 (1.45%) itBit : 1054.71 (1.33%) Kraken : 1057.12 (1.86%) GDAX : 1058.51 (1.81%) SLQ : 4 hours, 4 mins```
[2017-03-28 11:48:01] Dnavid : $200 cost of mining 1 btc = 1 bcu
[2017-03-28 11:48:07] Dnavid : kinda makes sense
[2017-03-28 11:50:50] Dnavid : So the btc "brand" is worth $800?
[2017-03-28 11:53:30] abbey : soon
[2017-03-28 11:55:04] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCM17`: buy 2 @ 7132.9 :punch: :whale:
[2017-03-28 11:55:21] KingTuna : oooooh yehhhhh
[2017-03-28 11:55:23] KingTuna : Finally ...
[2017-03-28 11:55:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 1061.06
[2017-03-28 11:58:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 1061.79
[2017-03-28 11:59:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 31 @ 1062.40
[2017-03-28 12:00:28] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6000 @ 1063.43
[2017-03-28 12:03:05] abbey : we need a long squeeze here
[2017-03-28 12:04:53] MikeHunt : 980 at some point me thinks
[2017-03-28 12:05:08] Gr33d : ^^ What even.
[2017-03-28 12:07:15] abbey : here we go
[2017-03-28 12:07:31] Gr33d : abbey: Nah.
[2017-03-28 12:08:28] abbey : Gr33d: oh yeah
[2017-03-28 12:16:41] vgck : Nice discount
[2017-03-28 12:17:09] abbey : go ahead and buy
[2017-03-28 12:23:05] Gr33d : abbey: Why buy now when I'm long at 970?
[2017-03-28 12:23:48] abbey : that was meant for @vgck
[2017-03-28 12:24:06] vgck : I did
[2017-03-28 12:24:12] Gr33d : lol I'm blind didn't even seen his comment
[2017-03-28 12:24:21] vgck : My long at 1058 is very happy right now
[2017-03-28 12:24:47] Gr33d : still, as long as the leverage isn't too high buying now is A-okay
[2017-03-28 12:25:03] vgck : 200x isn't too high, right?
[2017-03-28 12:25:20] Gr33d : pff rookie numbers
[2017-03-28 12:25:20] abbey : i think we are near the top
[2017-03-28 12:25:29] Gr33d : I think anything under 1000x is fine
[2017-03-28 12:26:35] rapidgains : MikeHunt: do you trade other stuff?
[2017-03-28 12:31:01] KingTuna : Hey guys.. Im leveraged x 4 and Im about to go to sleep. Bought in at 1041 long and closed 1/3 already. What to do?!?
[2017-03-28 12:31:11] KingTuna : ah i never ask in toolbox, but just curious
[2017-03-28 12:31:40] startChat : can't sleep properly in a bitmex position, close it out
[2017-03-28 12:32:54] KingTuna : I may sell my whole leveraged position and just sit in BTC , or I may do a 1 x BTC hedge to protect capital ..hmmm
[2017-03-28 12:33:25] mahouni : sell part in next up movement
[2017-03-28 12:33:31] mahouni : at least half