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[2017-03-28 05:11:50] qr : https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/845278924737134592
[2017-03-28 05:13:18] qr : https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/845072909051875329
[2017-03-28 05:14:05] ubba : wait so you sold at 890?
[2017-03-28 05:14:21] qr : /sentiment
[2017-03-28 05:14:24] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 43.02 / 56.98 Daily : 46.42 / 53.58 Weekly : 50.33 / 49.67 Monthly : 52.46 / 47.54```
[2017-03-28 05:14:29] ubba : interesting sell low buy high
[2017-03-28 05:14:46] vgck : Why do you keep checking sentiment every 4 seconds?
[2017-03-28 05:14:58] qr : /sentiment
[2017-03-28 05:15:00] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 43.02 / 56.98 Daily : 46.42 / 53.58 Weekly : 50.33 / 49.67 Monthly : 52.46 / 47.54```
[2017-03-28 05:15:01] mark121 : he fucked up real bad the other day
[2017-03-28 05:15:07] mark121 : embarassed himself
[2017-03-28 05:15:20] mark121 : (had to change his handle)
[2017-03-28 05:15:28] ThruTheFloor : /ban qr
[2017-03-28 05:15:28] trollbot : ``` qr has been banned```
[2017-03-28 05:15:40] mark121 : there we go
[2017-03-28 05:16:08] mark121 : @farzad I didnt realize the /ban was actually a ban, i thought it was a joke - reinstate my modship pretty please!
[2017-03-28 05:16:44] funny : lol
[2017-03-28 05:16:53] funny : Good thing there isn't an IRC client
[2017-03-28 05:17:12] mark121 : !votekick funny
[2017-03-28 05:17:30] funny : Oh no lol
[2017-03-28 05:17:31] funny : xD
[2017-03-28 05:17:47] Dnavid : Meanwhile, those btc shorts I mentionned yesterday are loaded up thanks to our little excursion to above $1040, morning everyone.
[2017-03-28 05:17:48] owned : !votekick funny
[2017-03-28 05:17:55] owned : !voteban funny
[2017-03-28 05:18:05] funny : xD
[2017-03-28 05:18:13] funny : idle much?
[2017-03-28 05:18:36] owned : !users
[2017-03-28 05:18:47] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: @BitMEX_Sam guys , been watching the seminar , but there no tips for windows user ? can the bitmex market bot work with windows
[2017-03-28 05:18:56] owned : !node_chanserv #3049183 pw
[2017-03-28 05:19:23] funny : !node_chanserv #3049183 pw
[2017-03-28 05:19:38] funny : xD
[2017-03-28 05:20:16] j8 : windows doesn't come with python installed but you can do it @billyboy402
[2017-03-28 05:20:33] billyboy402 : j8: hey mate long time
[2017-03-28 05:20:40] j8 : hows it goin
[2017-03-28 05:21:02] funny : /sentiment
[2017-03-28 05:21:09] billyboy402 : I have installed it , ( been playing with polo lending bot) and it worked , but there file on bitmex bot is a bit harder to understand
[2017-03-28 05:21:10] frog : Dnavid: whats your target?
[2017-03-28 05:21:40] funny : I guess my work here is done.
[2017-03-28 05:21:44] funny : Enjoy your wreckage :)
[2017-03-28 05:21:50] funny : https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/media
[2017-03-28 05:21:53] billyboy402 : j8: have you used the bot , do you mine me bouning some tips for me
[2017-03-28 05:22:49] j8 : billyboy402: yeah i've used it, and built other things around it, so i know the code pretty well. i don't use windows at all though so can't help there
[2017-03-28 05:23:59] billyboy402 : j8: ive created the testnet , and API . in the folder ther a few folder , so market maker > right click and edit the _setting_base.py with my test net api
[2017-03-28 05:24:12] Dnavid : frog: 700, but we may have another leg up before that. At the least $950 we'll likely test $880 again.
[2017-03-28 05:24:21] billyboy402 : but when i click market_maker.py it flash and crash
[2017-03-28 05:24:38] frog : Dnavid: TY
[2017-03-28 05:25:08] mark121 : if we go to 700
[2017-03-28 05:25:16] mark121 : something is very wrong
[2017-03-28 05:25:26] mark121 : as its not in the cards
[2017-03-28 05:26:18] Dnavid : mark121: if it splits it will go sub 500.
[2017-03-28 05:26:20] j8 : billyboy402: i think you should be editing settings.py, one level up. not _setting_base.py because those values get overwritten by the ones in settings.py
[2017-03-28 05:26:22] mark121 : oh of ccourse
[2017-03-28 05:26:23] vgck : HF is very wrong
[2017-03-28 05:26:35] mark121 : im with ya on that one :)
[2017-03-28 05:26:59] Dnavid : /fork
[2017-03-28 05:27:00] mark121 : it will be very painful and jeopardize btc as we know it
[2017-03-28 05:27:00] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 838.99 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 214.41 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-28 05:28:00] frog : game of chicken
[2017-03-28 05:29:54] Dnavid : if it were to split today we'd get (839+214.4)/2 = $527 per bitcoin or btu on whatever the hashing proportion happens to be at split (presumably 51% btu?).
[2017-03-28 05:31:00] Dnavid : btc holders are not evaluating the risk correctly. IMO it is more likely that it happens than not.
[2017-03-28 05:32:28] donsteep : how do you evaluate opinions
[2017-03-28 05:33:13] Dnavid : donsteep: just look at the math and make your own ;-)
[2017-03-28 05:33:21] frog : new miners without stored bitcoin will support
[2017-03-28 05:33:34] frog : nothing to lose
[2017-03-28 05:36:01] mark121 : well
[2017-03-28 05:36:06] mark121 : if a split wer announced
[2017-03-28 05:36:40] mark121 : billions of dollars would just about immeditely begin leaving
[2017-03-28 05:37:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3 @ 1032.11 :punch: :whale:
[2017-03-28 05:37:32] Dnavid : I tweeted this at $1240, I'm a bear since b4 etf bc of the risk of split. This risk is now certainly higher. https://twitter.com/davidweisss/status/842401210359533569
[2017-03-28 05:37:55] mark121 : well ETF 0% chance
[2017-03-28 05:38:05] Dnavid : I din't know what is driving these rebounds, but smart money it isn't
[2017-03-28 05:38:58] mark121 : imassive built up positions can still be covering and create rallies effectively while making money on each buy etc
[2017-03-28 05:39:14] mark121 : they then can profit off the same $ range more than once
[2017-03-28 05:39:24] mark121 : its done quite well
[2017-03-28 05:39:42] mark121 : at the same time, this cud all be a scare tactic
[2017-03-28 05:39:46] Dnavid : mark121: with the civil war having started days before etf decision it was obvious no approval. I also made money on that one...
[2017-03-28 05:40:21] mark121 : the 0% approval chance wasnt related or affected by the fork
[2017-03-28 05:40:35] mark121 : it was in the US government
[2017-03-28 05:40:37] Dnavid : mark121: I tried to ride the legs up but they're really choppy and shorter than the down ones.
[2017-03-28 05:41:06] mark121 : which the SEC is, they go to war to stop currencies form being created
[2017-03-28 05:41:07] mark121 : :)
[2017-03-28 05:41:30] frog : USD is king
[2017-03-28 05:41:35] mark121 : precisely
[2017-03-28 05:41:40] billyboy402 : j8: setting doesnt have much in it
[2017-03-28 05:42:04] frog : china want their own crypto
[2017-03-28 05:42:46] Dnavid : mark121: yeah, we won't know. My working hypothesis is that if I were an SEC official and saw Ver days before I would have never approve. Imagine the shitshow now to explain the impending split to the retirees invested with their everyday money.
[2017-03-28 05:44:13] mark121 : If there was a possibility of approval, for sure, that is just terribly unprofessional and sketchy sounding
[2017-03-28 05:44:45] mark121 : but everytime a country tries to say they wil no longer take USD for their oil they are invaded within months
[2017-03-28 05:44:52] j8 : billyboy402: did you run setup.py first? step 2 in the readme
[2017-03-28 05:44:55] mark121 : Iraq, Libya
[2017-03-28 05:44:59] mark121 : many more
[2017-03-28 05:45:18] frog : no one supporting small low volume drop
[2017-03-28 05:45:22] Dnavid : mark121: yeah
[2017-03-28 05:45:42] billyboy402 : j8: yep it open flash and close , but doesnt create any thing
[2017-03-28 05:45:50] mark121 : imo winklevoss twins must have been aware of this
[2017-03-28 05:46:23] mark121 : they prob made a killing
[2017-03-28 05:48:51] mark121 : it shud be headin up b4 a drop
[2017-03-28 05:49:06] j8 : billyboy402: if you're just double clicking it then maybe it's failing and closing the terminal before you can see why. really you need to run `python setup.py install`, not sure exactly what the windows equivalent is based on how you have python set up
[2017-03-28 05:50:49] mark121 : ah i see
[2017-03-28 05:51:02] mark121 : volume says its alrdy a top
[2017-03-28 05:51:30] mark121 : thought it need a mini right shoulder
[2017-03-28 05:52:46] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/L0qWVqA9/
[2017-03-28 05:53:33] mark121 : PT 985
[2017-03-28 05:53:35] mark121 : ish
[2017-03-28 05:54:53] frog : mark121: 980 buy area
[2017-03-28 05:55:35] mark121 : aye
[2017-03-28 05:56:01] mark121 : or jus cover your short with whatever amount of conracts u want to go long
[2017-03-28 05:56:15] mark121 : so it executes in one
[2017-03-28 05:56:28] mark121 : EXTRA*
[2017-03-28 05:56:41] mark121 : after long
[2017-03-28 05:57:10] frog : good advice
[2017-03-28 05:59:45] mark121 : :>
[2017-03-28 06:05:19] frog : looks like shorts are conserving resources for anticipated attack on 950-970
[2017-03-28 06:05:53] frog : sryy 1050-1070
[2017-03-28 06:07:14] mark121 : just touching backshud drop
[2017-03-28 06:07:50] mark121 : unles of course we wil se a riht shoulder now
[2017-03-28 06:08:57] mark121 : nah tb confirmed on momo
[2017-03-28 06:09:44] frog : i dont know if HF will happen but in best interests for BTC holders for it to happen at highest price as possible
[2017-03-28 06:10:08] mark121 : thats kind an self contraction
[2017-03-28 06:10:19] mark121 : contradiction* or oxymoron
[2017-03-28 06:10:33] mark121 : unles they surprise split lol
[2017-03-28 06:11:00] frog : i don't think will happen
[2017-03-28 06:11:20] mark121 : it wud be so stupid
[2017-03-28 06:11:41] mark121 : such a progress killer
[2017-03-28 06:12:27] arbitrage101 : billyboy402: I use pycharm to modify and test run the script
[2017-03-28 06:12:45] arbitrage101 : can see all the problems and able to fix
[2017-03-28 06:12:52] arbitrage101 : version, path, etc
[2017-03-28 06:13:23] arbitrage101 : library
[2017-03-28 06:17:56] frog : it took approximately half the volume to go up 6 pts than the down 6 pts not economic to short
[2017-03-28 06:18:37] mark121 : wudnt pay much attention to that
[2017-03-28 06:18:44] frog : ok
[2017-03-28 06:23:10] billyboy402 : arbitrage101: thanks for the tip , im downloaidn it , but i am complete noob so see how it does
[2017-03-28 06:23:49] arbitrage101 : make sure you use pycharm 3.4 or lower version
[2017-03-28 06:23:59] arbitrage101 : i mean python 3.4 or lower
[2017-03-28 06:24:15] arbitrage101 : higher version gives strange hashing on window machine
[2017-03-28 06:24:35] arbitrage101 : could be because of the 32/64 bits thing
[2017-03-28 06:31:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 5000 @ 0.00000916
[2017-03-28 06:31:09] mark121 : u seee this kind of non sense doesnt happen without the intention of people trying to mislead us
[2017-03-28 06:32:03] mark121 : all that song and dance for a touchback
[2017-03-28 06:34:18] mark121 : OR its a super over dramatic fake one and willdo a tiny bit of upside before resuming its lower trajectory
[2017-03-28 06:40:35] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/OPnRP8LD/
[2017-03-28 06:42:05] Dnavid : arbitrage101: seeing you look knowledgeable on api: do you know if there is any nodejs software? Thanks
[2017-03-28 06:43:06] arbitrage101 : not familiar with nodejs
[2017-03-28 06:43:20] arbitrage101 : shouldn't be too hard to search around
[2017-03-28 06:43:31] Dnavid : arbitrage101: ok thanks
[2017-03-28 06:49:20] mark121 : what a bulltrap
[2017-03-28 06:52:59] j8 : Dnavid: there's nodejs connectors in https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors
[2017-03-28 06:53:09] KingTuna : mark121: I've changed tune. Thinking this will push up for a bit. Definitely past 1050
[2017-03-28 06:54:32] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/hiVBOreJ/
[2017-03-28 06:55:26] mark121 : i see 10 pts in a possible shoulders
[2017-03-28 06:55:53] mark121 : however im not convinced
[2017-03-28 06:55:58] mark121 : thats a nice look TB
[2017-03-28 06:56:07] KingTuna : I don't buy these charts tbh
[2017-03-28 06:56:29] KingTuna : i been correct this far
[2017-03-28 06:56:54] mark121 : buy what charts
[2017-03-28 06:57:00] mark121 : btc charts?
[2017-03-28 06:57:24] mark121 : or specifically mine
[2017-03-28 06:58:08] mark121 : u cudnt get a clearer head and shoulders, and what a beauty of a touchback
[2017-03-28 06:58:54] mark121 : but its done so deceptively i
[2017-03-28 06:59:50] KingTuna : I'm sure . I have seen others point out head and shoulders . But whales have other ideas .
[2017-03-28 07:00:13] mark121 : doesnt work like that
[2017-03-28 07:00:40] mark121 : otherwise TA would be meaningless
[2017-03-28 07:01:01] mark121 : the pt is though, its done in a way that sitl leaves possibility of the right shoulder needing completion
[2017-03-28 07:01:45] mark121 : the touchback now being a failure (and recovery once its back above the neckline)
[2017-03-28 07:01:50] KingTuna : mark121: not meaningless at all. But not a 100% proof fortune telling tool either . Plenty of other considerations. What price do you see the reversal/completion , the high?
[2017-03-28 07:02:49] mark121 : well thats a loaded statement
[2017-03-28 07:02:53] mark121 : it depends on the options
[2017-03-28 07:03:00] mark121 : we have 2
[2017-03-28 07:03:08] mark121 : sometimes htere is only 1
[2017-03-28 07:04:09] mark121 : and so in those cases it is as near to 100% as cud be while understanding 100 exaclty is impossible, the earth could explode
[2017-03-28 07:05:30] mark121 : all this ado, i expect something extraordinary at the end :p
[2017-03-28 07:06:27] KingTuna : Lol
[2017-03-28 07:07:03] KingTuna : well we will see. I'm seeing this breaking 1050. I'll make my 2 -8 BTC quickly and I'll close. All G with me . Then it will reverse as expected ;)
[2017-03-28 07:07:05] mark121 : id be surprised if it did more than 8 pts
[2017-03-28 07:08:38] mark121 : thats on my chart tho, with MM it can go a tad more
[2017-03-28 07:13:36] mark121 : set ur target a tad lower
[2017-03-28 07:13:44] mark121 : wud be a shame to miss out
[2017-03-28 07:14:36] mark121 : a smidgen
[2017-03-28 07:19:36] Kalman : /joke
[2017-03-28 07:19:38] trollbot : ``` Why didn't Gordon Ramsay upvote the picture of the lamb steak? Because it was /r/aww```
[2017-03-28 07:30:42] mark121 : two other consideration is the symmetry on other side and the prior pattern that led to the head of the H&S
[2017-03-28 07:36:34] ross : Talk about presale pumps on xbc and btcd
[2017-03-28 07:36:54] mark121 : lol 1600%?
[2017-03-28 07:36:57] ross : Sad I missed
[2017-03-28 07:38:05] ross : Oh yea mark I fcked myself on dash yesterday
[2017-03-28 07:38:27] ross : just thought you should have a laugh at me
[2017-03-28 07:39:25] mark121 : i dont laugh at oyur misfortune heh
[2017-03-28 07:39:36] mark121 : but im impressed by your honesty
[2017-03-28 07:39:43] mark121 : heh :]
[2017-03-28 07:40:12] mark121 : step above most that is
[2017-03-28 07:40:47] boogi : should I be buying dash at these prices?
[2017-03-28 07:41:22] mark121 : u cud
[2017-03-28 07:41:28] mark121 : btc wil drop soon
[2017-03-28 07:41:36] mark121 : but its a short term trade
[2017-03-28 07:41:44] mark121 : as it wil then rise like a phoenix
[2017-03-28 07:42:12] boogi : interesting
[2017-03-28 07:42:20] mark121 : so if u cant babt sit it , id take caution
[2017-03-28 07:42:57] Tux26 : /price
[2017-03-28 07:43:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1038.08 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1039.70 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1037.88 (0.00%) itBit : 1040.86 (0.00%) Kraken : 1037.82 (0.00%) GDAX : 1039.70 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-28 07:45:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRJ17`: sell 60 @ 0.017160
[2017-03-28 07:46:06] mark121 : what a sketchy trade so precarious
[2017-03-28 07:47:32] mark121 : careful tuna
[2017-03-28 07:47:53] mark121 : 1045 may be a stretch at this pt
[2017-03-28 07:49:02] mark121 : go go go!
[2017-03-28 07:49:10] mark121 : MM power
[2017-03-28 07:49:24] finnagetdooped : 1050 inc
[2017-03-28 07:50:00] Gr33d : Time to short.
[2017-03-28 07:50:21] mark121 : 1050 is unlikely
[2017-03-28 07:50:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15000 @ 1040.40
[2017-03-28 07:56:31] ross : Ah $12 under mark I like it
[2017-03-28 07:58:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 2260 @ 1057.02
[2017-03-28 07:58:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 8956 @ 1059.60
[2017-03-28 07:58:41] ross : lol the 100x ones going down
[2017-03-28 07:59:22] finnagetdooped : unlikely"
[2017-03-28 08:00:03] mark121 : on my chart w eare at 1030
[2017-03-28 08:00:31] mark121 : impressive final push ttho
[2017-03-28 08:00:32] mark121 : undoubtably
[2017-03-28 08:02:15] mark121 : 1045 is a solid close
[2017-03-28 08:02:32] finnagetdooped : where are you 1030
[2017-03-28 08:02:45] mark121 : 7 exchanges summation chart
[2017-03-28 08:02:57] mark121 : but anyway , dusnt mean anything
[2017-03-28 08:02:58] finnagetdooped : booo
[2017-03-28 08:03:04] mark121 : swap is usually ahead :)
[2017-03-28 08:03:18] j8 : china is dragging. okc index is 1022
[2017-03-28 08:03:22] mark121 : it seems double toppy
[2017-03-28 08:03:30] mark121 : if it issnt
[2017-03-28 08:03:38] mark121 : skys the limit :)
[2017-03-28 08:03:57] thomaskikansha : new high for both finex and stamp
[2017-03-28 08:04:04] mark121 : cant beloeve the pattern is still not broken lmao
[2017-03-28 08:08:04] claw : /sentiment
[2017-03-28 08:08:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 23.74 / 76.26 Daily : 46.61 / 53.39 Weekly : 50.34 / 49.66 Monthly : 52.45 / 47.55```
[2017-03-28 08:09:21] mark121 : o wow what a rare CH&S
[2017-03-28 08:09:49] mark121 : this cud have legs hop on
[2017-03-28 08:10:08] finnagetdooped : you switching to bull?
[2017-03-28 08:10:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 110 @ 0.077240
[2017-03-28 08:10:37] Gr33d : mark121: "hop on"
[2017-03-28 08:10:41] mark121 : i was undecided
[2017-03-28 08:10:46] mark121 : well actualy no
[2017-03-28 08:10:49] Gr33d : mark121: Or wait for the resistance to be broken lol...
[2017-03-28 08:10:58] mark121 : a strong bull time is in the works no matter
[2017-03-28 08:11:23] mark121 : jus worried abou dumpy first
[2017-03-28 08:11:59] mark121 : that head and shoulders is still intact lol
[2017-03-28 08:12:13] smokim87 : REKT: for real lol i had 0.25 btc left but ok lol...
[2017-03-28 08:12:43] mark121 : the right shoulder was delayted to such an extrmee angle it almost surpassed the Head
[2017-03-28 08:13:57] finnagetdooped : Just dont fomo mark
[2017-03-28 08:14:23] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 08:14:34] finnagetdooped : buy high sell low
[2017-03-28 08:14:36] mark121 : gr33d, thats the univers
[2017-03-28 08:14:39] smokim87 : ya am done trading here, liquidity is garbage here. I basically donated a btc for nothing lol
[2017-03-28 08:14:48] mark121 : punishin u for being asmartass :;p
[2017-03-28 08:15:10] finnagetdooped : smokim87: ya traded dash, not btc
[2017-03-28 08:16:37] mark121 : as i said, the H&s was still in play
[2017-03-28 08:16:50] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 08:16:52] Dnavid : mark121: got scared for a moment
[2017-03-28 08:17:34] Gr33d : lol
[2017-03-28 08:18:00] Gr33d : I'm calling back down to test 990-1000
[2017-03-28 08:18:06] Gr33d : then a sharp rise
[2017-03-28 08:18:17] mark121 : thats correct
[2017-03-28 08:18:26] mark121 : yes, very
[2017-03-28 08:18:30] Gr33d : Slow downwards though me thinks
[2017-03-28 08:19:02] Ahhere : Bitcoin ded
[2017-03-28 08:19:21] Dnavid : Gr33d: Ok, let's do it
[2017-03-28 08:19:41] Gr33d : Ahhere: Again! :/ classic bitcoin
[2017-03-28 08:19:44] mark121 : KingTuna: Told u to close 1045
[2017-03-28 08:19:45] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-28 08:20:04] Dnavid : Is it me or there is often a pump in btc when sunrise in US?
[2017-03-28 08:20:07] mark121 : universe punishment inc
[2017-03-28 08:20:13] mark121 : yes approx dnavid
[2017-03-28 08:20:22] mark121 : a little b4
[2017-03-28 08:20:32] Gr33d : Dnavid: Sometimes there's a dump tho lol
[2017-03-28 08:20:42] Dnavid : mmm, I see
[2017-03-28 08:20:52] mark121 : alts rnt moving yet
[2017-03-28 08:21:01] Gr33d : Waiting on btc
[2017-03-28 08:21:01] mark121 : eth and dash
[2017-03-28 08:21:11] mark121 : what cud it be up to
[2017-03-28 08:21:56] finnagetdooped : double banga btc up alts down then swap in big move imo
[2017-03-28 08:22:43] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/wevIPwl7/
[2017-03-28 08:23:11] KingTuna : mark121: don't speak too soon boii
[2017-03-28 08:23:21] mark121 : i didnt
[2017-03-28 08:23:27] mark121 : u cud have profited off the same movement twice
[2017-03-28 08:23:49] mark121 : risky business my man!
[2017-03-28 08:24:16] mark121 : im stil rootin for ya
[2017-03-28 08:24:54] KingTuna : mark121: I don't trade out on 200k contracts by $ movements not enough liquidity for that
[2017-03-28 08:25:32] mark121 : lets be fair
[2017-03-28 08:25:37] KingTuna : Not playing with pennies mate
[2017-03-28 08:25:40] mark121 : that cudnt have gone les in my favour
[2017-03-28 08:25:47] mark121 : and 1050 was still 5 off
[2017-03-28 08:26:02] mark121 : a smidgen
[2017-03-28 08:26:06] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-28 08:26:31] KingTuna : 1044 finex
[2017-03-28 08:26:43] KingTuna : still holding
[2017-03-28 08:28:57] mark121 : not worth the anxiety
[2017-03-28 08:29:50] mark121 : go btc go
[2017-03-28 08:32:06] mark121 : gl folks,
[2017-03-28 08:32:21] frog : shorts having one more crack, they getting played atm
[2017-03-28 08:32:35] emcor : guys
[2017-03-28 08:32:40] emcor : you are truly dogs
[2017-03-28 08:32:42] RoftheN : We have BCU on our side, they won't let us shorts down!
[2017-03-28 08:32:43] emcor : predictable dogs
[2017-03-28 08:33:05] emcor : i used to have a dog at home and he is just like you
[2017-03-28 08:33:43] mark121 : selling on finex is up
[2017-03-28 08:34:51] CapitalGains : is there a mod here?
[2017-03-28 08:35:06] boogi : yeah me
[2017-03-28 08:35:16] Gr33d : /mods
[2017-03-28 08:35:31] Gr33d : o
[2017-03-28 08:35:36] mark121 : its itching
[2017-03-28 08:36:05] boogi : same
[2017-03-28 08:36:12] boogi : all these hookers is no good for my health
[2017-03-28 08:36:16] mark121 : if that pull the rug
[2017-03-28 08:36:25] mark121 : they*
[2017-03-28 08:36:57] boogi : dash is going to 0 i think
[2017-03-28 08:37:35] frog : they selling but can't buy back lower
[2017-03-28 08:37:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHJ17`: sell 1 @ 0.075230
[2017-03-28 08:37:53] frog : unable to recycle
[2017-03-28 08:38:16] mark121 : WOW
[2017-03-28 08:38:25] boogi : i think REKT is a little overstatement on that one
[2017-03-28 08:38:36] Gr33d : lol
[2017-03-28 08:38:52] mark121 : that was me folks, back to the coal mines
[2017-03-28 08:39:03] boogi : not eating dinner tonight
[2017-03-28 08:39:33] Gr33d : xDDD
[2017-03-28 08:39:47] frog : the size of short positions is increasing while price slow;y creeping up
[2017-03-28 08:40:09] boogi : is everybody here shorting dash
[2017-03-28 08:40:36] frog : gl mark
[2017-03-28 08:43:12] frog : there used to be walls at 1050 now its gentle incline
[2017-03-28 08:43:20] Dnavid : frog: where do you see size of short positions?
[2017-03-28 08:43:52] frog : you don't
[2017-03-28 08:44:10] frog : you have to make reasonable assumptions
[2017-03-28 08:44:49] Dnavid : Oh
[2017-03-28 08:44:52] frog : if more volume on way down less on way up net short position increases
[2017-03-28 08:46:49] frog : imagine 2 player game one short one long
[2017-03-28 08:46:55] mark121 : finex data is quite reliable
[2017-03-28 08:46:57] Ahhere : Gr33d: lol
[2017-03-28 08:47:21] mark121 : meaning, it typically reflects the majority of sentiment/exchanges
[2017-03-28 08:47:30] frog : they trade 2 contracts each point on way down 10 points and contract on way up
[2017-03-28 08:47:48] frog : it is reasonable assumption
[2017-03-28 08:48:06] Rado : If we try a few times and can't break 1050 we will retest 1000 or even 960
[2017-03-28 08:48:12] frog : 1 contact on way up what is net position of each at end of game
[2017-03-28 08:48:20] mark121 : ay, however they are likely covering massiv positions ont he way up, and adding on the way down
[2017-03-28 08:48:47] frog : yeah i more than one player game and not all contracts equal
[2017-03-28 08:49:05] mark121 : k goodnight fealls
[2017-03-28 08:49:11] mark121 : im dead
[2017-03-28 08:49:12] mark121 : tired
[2017-03-28 08:49:14] frog : aslo profit taking and recycling
[2017-03-28 08:49:31] frog : mark121: u2 thanks for your help I am learning a lot
[2017-03-28 08:50:17] frog : also same product traded on many different exchanges
[2017-03-28 08:50:43] mark121 : my pleasure
[2017-03-28 08:54:44] KingTuna : mark121: There we go big boy ;)
[2017-03-28 08:54:52] KingTuna : mark121: Im rarely wrong these days
[2017-03-28 08:55:11] KingTuna : these head and shoulders barely work in crypto land
[2017-03-28 08:55:20] Dnavid : frog: thanks for explanation-
[2017-03-28 08:55:35] frog : however if short player is able to force price down he wins big so nothing certain
[2017-03-28 08:58:01] frog : especially if he can buy back when longs are forced to close losing positions
[2017-03-28 08:58:25] frog : or stop losses triggered
[2017-03-28 09:00:21] mark121 : KingTuna: u do realize that a head and shoulders is responible for the rally lol
[2017-03-28 09:01:01] mark121 : but yes
[2017-03-28 09:01:13] frog : i think long atm because at end of recent dump to just below 950 selling stopped once the walls of resistance were eaten
[2017-03-28 09:01:16] mark121 : i actualy argued against htem for months with crypto folks a while back hah
[2017-03-28 09:01:42] frog : there was no long covering
[2017-03-28 09:01:43] mark121 : nevertheless, 200k contacts at 10$ of movement (at the least) aint pennies
[2017-03-28 09:01:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1047.01
[2017-03-28 09:02:33] frog : everything going up across all exchanges
[2017-03-28 09:03:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 192000 @ 1048.18 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-03-28 09:03:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 800 @ 1048.30
[2017-03-28 09:04:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 900 @ 1048.39
[2017-03-28 09:04:16] thomaskikansha : wow
[2017-03-28 09:04:19] finnagetdooped : lol
[2017-03-28 09:05:39] KingTuna : mark121: <3
[2017-03-28 09:05:57] lgmdry : wtf
[2017-03-28 09:06:00] DorianWhack-A-Moto : whats ur target bulls?
[2017-03-28 09:06:08] mark121 : 1140-1160
[2017-03-28 09:06:09] finnagetdooped : 1076 for me
[2017-03-28 09:06:17] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-28 09:06:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 1048.65
[2017-03-28 09:06:21] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2017-03-28 09:06:27] finnagetdooped : first profit taking
[2017-03-28 09:07:05] InvalidUser : http://dailyhaymaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/drevil.png
[2017-03-28 09:07:15] Rado : finnagetdooped: 1076 seems reasonable
[2017-03-28 09:08:17] KingTuna : yeeeeehaaaa finex
[2017-03-28 09:08:28] mark121 : if this ocntinues a little longer
[2017-03-28 09:08:33] mark121 : expecrt more than that
[2017-03-28 09:08:37] mark121 : a massive bull cross
[2017-03-28 09:08:40] mark121 : double crosss
[2017-03-28 09:08:43] mark121 : ona rare indicator
[2017-03-28 09:08:52] mark121 : is getin closer and closer
[2017-03-28 09:09:01] mark121 : 2hr timeframe as well so it'll be a strongy
[2017-03-28 09:09:20] KingTuna : mark121: 1046 tops you thought.. Perhaps a little higher
[2017-03-28 09:09:30] finnagetdooped : lol
[2017-03-28 09:09:35] finnagetdooped : tuna you savage
[2017-03-28 09:09:54] mark121 : for the riht shoulder
[2017-03-28 09:10:40] KingTuna : I just feel that whilst Technical analysis is great and all.. Some go a little far with it to their detriment. One that always favours a side/direction of the market, will always substantiate the technical analysis in their favour
[2017-03-28 09:10:49] mark121 : Kingtuna
[2017-03-28 09:11:01] mark121 : U got by on the seat of your pants
[2017-03-28 09:11:01] mark121 : if that
[2017-03-28 09:11:06] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 09:11:13] mark121 : and technically, 1045
[2017-03-28 09:11:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 8000 @ 1064.87
[2017-03-28 09:11:20] mark121 : i nailed it :)
[2017-03-28 09:11:21] mark121 : <3
[2017-03-28 09:11:27] KingTuna : aha
[2017-03-28 09:13:00] mark121 : its still skirting along the same neckline , check er out :)
[2017-03-28 09:13:28] mark121 : or i show u tom2 me dead and wifie will kill me
[2017-03-28 09:13:38] KingTuna : lol
[2017-03-28 09:13:48] mark121 : safe to say this shit is so manipulated im seeing patterns i havent seen in 10years of professional eequities analysis
[2017-03-28 09:14:30] KingTuna : mark121: How long have you been in cryptos mate? Coz it works very differently to equities, I can assure you
[2017-03-28 09:14:39] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-28 09:14:56] mark121 : Actually
[2017-03-28 09:15:01] mark121 : its a very rudimentary version
[2017-03-28 09:15:16] mark121 : I mean the money to be made here in unreal
[2017-03-28 09:15:29] mark121 : only recently did BTC begin to deviate from a fractal map essentially
[2017-03-28 09:15:56] mark121 : I had more profit in 2016 from crypto than in 5 years of equities
[2017-03-28 09:17:00] KingTuna : Yeah.. I been in cryptos since April 2013, when BTC was $45.. I seen it all! It often defies TA. Most TA traders here don't necessarily make their fortunes, although does have some relevance. My best trade wasn't a trade, but slapped $30K on LTC in April 2013, watched it waffle and go down 50% and then in November in 5 days, went to $48 and I made $400k..
[2017-03-28 09:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 987 @ 0.045650
[2017-03-28 09:17:06] KingTuna : Shit doesn't always have to make sense
[2017-03-28 09:17:10] mark121 : most ppl in crypto have no or littlr TA
[2017-03-28 09:17:12] mark121 : ability
[2017-03-28 09:17:35] mark121 : and ive noticed ppl r way over confident in relation to their understanding
[2017-03-28 09:17:41] mark121 : tradingview i speak of
[2017-03-28 09:17:59] KingTuna : Just remove emotions and you're all G
[2017-03-28 09:18:16] aethlios : KingTuna: ltc will shine again above ATH!!!
[2017-03-28 09:18:39] KingTuna : aethlios: LOL who knows.. Looks like a dinosaur these days
[2017-03-28 09:18:42] finnagetdooped : i made my btc the old fashioned way, buy 300 btc in 2012 and find the hard drive in 2015
[2017-03-28 09:19:56] l3f : I fully respect aethlios, who has made many excellent calls
[2017-03-28 09:20:01] l3f : but I think the bull trend lives
[2017-03-28 09:20:13] l3f : he's always very bearish on the final leg
[2017-03-28 09:20:18] l3f : which happens to be the reversal
[2017-03-28 09:20:23] boogi : i made a mill on the past few months in btc and dont know TA
[2017-03-28 09:20:26] mark121 : KingTuna: I think you'll get better over time, learn to pick risk vs reward over a hard target .. it takes experience to ignore emotion and critical think
[2017-03-28 09:20:36] aethlios : l3f: https://www.tradingview.com/x/L7eaB6Uy/ (haha)
[2017-03-28 09:20:53] boogi : 20x okcoin ftw
[2017-03-28 09:22:32] Rado : Did wlETH make a new low?
[2017-03-28 09:22:52] aethlios : l3f: i am bullish and have long position now in 6 alts, but bearish of btc, wait to see what happens with the block size issue and the solution. i prefer bu straight and simple solution.
[2017-03-28 09:22:52] mark121 : What you described about LTC seems like just random luck - that can happen in any markets, especially equities good money - crypto can be traded with technical analysis very very well, in fact i made about 100btc a few days ago on ETH solely due to TA
[2017-03-28 09:23:08] heheh lo : when is the HF coming, waiting for cheap coins
[2017-03-28 09:23:14] mark121 : had a firend buy a random bio pharma company, it got bough out at a massive premium of like 9000%
[2017-03-28 09:23:25] mark121 : mad ea killing :)
[2017-03-28 09:24:45] l3f : aethlios: my alt market indicator says alts is currently moving down as a whole
[2017-03-28 09:24:54] mark121 : its like i told u i could land a 747
[2017-03-28 09:25:01] mark121 : and so i try
[2017-03-28 09:25:15] mark121 : i crashe land and blow the shit out of it and eveyrthing else around, but walk away without a scratch
[2017-03-28 09:25:33] mark121 : "told you i could land it"
[2017-03-28 09:25:41] Dnavid : l3f: isn't it like that when btc pumps, that alts tend to go down?
[2017-03-28 09:25:51] mark121 : yes Dnavid
[2017-03-28 09:25:56] l3f : It's based on ALTUSD
[2017-03-28 09:25:57] Dnavid : mark121: k
[2017-03-28 09:26:08] l3f : so people are actually selling them for USD to buy btc
[2017-03-28 09:26:14] l3f : just confirms the up trend on btc
[2017-03-28 09:26:19] Dnavid : l3f: oh thx will look it up
[2017-03-28 09:26:37] aethlios : l3f: my holdings are LTC*4, 1ST* ico 0.07733, Lisk*ico 0.07, Vertcoin*0.05 usd, Veltor*0.55 usd, Zclassic*1.80 usd, noone is pumped yet.
[2017-03-28 09:27:45] Dnavid : l3f: if btc goes down enough, trend will reverse. They all go crashing down. Din't know what that price level is though.
[2017-03-28 09:27:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 1 @ 0.046080
[2017-03-28 09:28:15] aethlios : 1ST will go really well, has interesting model.
[2017-03-28 09:28:19] l3f : Dnavid: crypto market will get rekt as whole if btc tanks too much
[2017-03-28 09:28:34] l3f : but a lot of people are hedging with eth when btc tanks
[2017-03-28 09:28:45] l3f : so if alts move up while btc moves up, you know it's danger zone
[2017-03-28 09:29:30] l3f : all the big alts are in a sea of red
[2017-03-28 09:30:40] aethlios : l3f: all go up because new fiat entering the crypto as an investment asset class, and this will keep growing.
[2017-03-28 09:31:07] l3f : aethlios: aye, I'm pretty bullish on btc long term
[2017-03-28 09:31:58] aethlios : l3f: btc is very risky to hold, i prefer to trade the spreads and speculate to alt pumps.
[2017-03-28 09:32:33] l3f : aethlios: but you're an interest rate trader
[2017-03-28 09:33:47] aethlios : don't forget how easily dumped to 888, ema200 saved bulls from massacre. most possible is market will move from BTC standard to ETH standard, so eth will to the connecting job accross alts.
[2017-03-28 09:34:55] aethlios : if BU take control and solve the block size and RV become the new satoshi, a btc leader then i am super bullish.
[2017-03-28 09:35:08] l3f : aethlios: I think BU fud was a massive shakeout to get rid of some long term "holders"
[2017-03-28 09:35:35] l3f : BU's unfortunately too incompetent to take over
[2017-03-28 09:35:47] l3f : too many technical flaws and people are jumping ship now
[2017-03-28 09:35:47] aethlios : l3f: so you think 95% SW will pass?? or you like 20-30 usd fees??
[2017-03-28 09:36:08] aethlios : why to keep using btc with 20 usd fees?? and not eth??
[2017-03-28 09:36:21] l3f : aethlios: pretty much the situation is this: BU's code's garbage, Segwit people are dipshits
[2017-03-28 09:36:52] longbydefault : wouldn't the good coders move to BU if it is the dominant chain?
[2017-03-28 09:36:54] l3f : aethlios: I think after the meeting they'll come up with something
[2017-03-28 09:37:10] aethlios : l3f: so price can't go higher, fees will make network useless, there is a roof while block size unsolved.
[2017-03-28 09:37:23] l3f : BU has diverged quite far from the core code now
[2017-03-28 09:37:53] l3f : longbydefault: that's true, but more devs are on the core chain then BU right now
[2017-03-28 09:38:19] aethlios : l3f: eth is marching now, if btc can't do th ejob, then the market will move to a new standard.
[2017-03-28 09:38:19] l3f : aethlios: scaling is always fud to shakeout unfortunately
[2017-03-28 09:38:30] l3f : eth chain is massive compared to BTC chain
[2017-03-28 09:38:38] l3f : they'll face scaling issues sooner than you'd think
[2017-03-28 09:39:31] aethlios : l3f: don't you like bu's more straight solution??
[2017-03-28 09:39:53] l3f : aethlios: I like it but core's proposal is techincally superiour
[2017-03-28 09:40:05] l3f : I think they'll comprise and do both
[2017-03-28 09:40:11] l3f : once core devs pull their heads out of their asses
[2017-03-28 09:40:37] l3f : compromise*
[2017-03-28 09:41:25] l3f : If they already did what the promised -> 2mb + segwit we'd already be 2k by now
[2017-03-28 09:42:45] laisee : a little compromise would have resolved this 2 years back. ;-)
[2017-03-28 09:43:30] l3f : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/61sim7/i_am_stepping_down_as_a_moderator_of_rbtc_and
[2017-03-28 09:43:31] l3f : also that ^
[2017-03-28 09:43:38] l3f : fucking lol
[2017-03-28 09:43:57] l3f : just read the title and ignore the text
[2017-03-28 09:44:03] alejandromasari : "I think BU fud was a massive shakeout to get rid of some long term "holders"" CORRECT AGREE
[2017-03-28 09:45:30] laisee : the shaekeout was a side effect of the 2-3 year stalemate in BTC development. I expect worse in next few months
[2017-03-28 09:47:02] l3f : even if bitcoin doesn't scale it works fine as a store of value
[2017-03-28 09:47:09] l3f : and the fee market continues while holding the status quo
[2017-03-28 09:47:26] l3f : once fees drive out the people doing micropayments it will be literally digital gold
[2017-03-28 09:48:34] laisee : hmmm. thats where I disagree, BTC as digital gold is no more useful than any pile of bits. And if miners can't make money becos ppl can't xfer then BTC is doomed.
[2017-03-28 09:49:03] l3f : laisee: fee market will ensure people pay enough fees though
[2017-03-28 09:49:20] l3f : you don't get in the block if you don't pay above X, and you'll be outbid by other people trying to get a TX in
[2017-03-28 09:49:42] laisee : who will keep paying 1$+ to xfer? ETH works fine, as does DASH etc etc
[2017-03-28 09:50:27] l3f : laisee: btc network will be most secure
[2017-03-28 09:50:48] l3f : either way it's better than (physical deliver) gold
[2017-03-28 09:50:53] l3f : not much better
[2017-03-28 09:50:57] laisee : secured by miners giving away electricity? I don't think so.