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[2017-03-27 22:09:25] Coach_Z : at 1x leverage, I went up to 4 bars in the ADL queue for bitcoin XBT
[2017-03-27 22:09:28] Coach_Z : is that normal?
[2017-03-27 22:09:31] ubba : BREAKING NEWS
[2017-03-27 22:09:34] \//\ : eth longers rekt
[2017-03-27 22:09:47] RoftheN : First time an ETH short went right
[2017-03-27 22:09:54] RoftheN : I'm truly improving
[2017-03-27 22:09:58] Ahhere : ubba: wat is it brah?
[2017-03-27 22:10:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 100000 @ 0.00000886
[2017-03-27 22:10:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1140000 @ 0.00000883
[2017-03-27 22:10:38] Ahhere : Alt blerdbarth
[2017-03-27 22:11:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 27000 @ 1038.77
[2017-03-27 22:11:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1038.74
[2017-03-27 22:12:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2260 @ 1040.11
[2017-03-27 22:12:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30 @ 1039.44
[2017-03-27 22:12:20] mark121 : idiots
[2017-03-27 22:12:34] mark121 : chart cudnt have been more obvious
[2017-03-27 22:13:13] Ahhere : mark121: no need to twist knife, shorts r ppl too
[2017-03-27 22:13:33] TB : mark121: just remember when it happens to you XD
[2017-03-27 22:13:35] mark121 : not twisting the knife
[2017-03-27 22:13:48] Tetsuo : bye XMR
[2017-03-27 22:13:51] mark121 : infact i feel bad for them
[2017-03-27 22:13:55] Ahhere : Injury + insult = @mark121
[2017-03-27 22:14:09] mark121 : lol
[2017-03-27 22:14:22] \//\ : XBC mooning on polo
[2017-03-27 22:14:37] \//\ : WTF is bitcoin plus
[2017-03-27 22:14:40] \//\ : up 1600% today
[2017-03-27 22:14:54] mark121 : its being pumped aggresively lol
[2017-03-27 22:15:01] Ahhere : \//\: wts is xbc is that btc plurs?
[2017-03-27 22:16:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1035.64
[2017-03-27 22:16:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 1035.82 :punch: :whale:
[2017-03-27 22:16:37] \//\ : Ahhere: yeah bitcoin plus up a ton today
[2017-03-27 22:16:50] \//\ : DASH big dump
[2017-03-27 22:17:41] KingTuna : Still sitting in my 1 x hedge.. Haven't traded for a couple of days.. Oh well. Lost equivalent of 7 BTC.. But don't care, so long as my capital is protected :) So question is, have we actually turned bull , has the HF FUD faded or still around?
[2017-03-27 22:18:32] \//\ : HF fud shook out all the weak hands
[2017-03-27 22:18:38] \//\ : so it's priced in now
[2017-03-27 22:18:54] mark121 : doesnt work like that
[2017-03-27 22:19:11] mark121 : when the news affects the asset so directly (the event)
[2017-03-27 22:19:18] mark121 : its not as simple
[2017-03-27 22:19:25] \//\ : https://coin.dance/blocks/historical
[2017-03-27 22:19:37] \//\ : BU needs more miners to signal
[2017-03-27 22:20:04] Coach_Z : Does anyone know how ADL works in practice?
[2017-03-27 22:20:06] \//\ : 100 more blocks and it'll be at 50%
[2017-03-27 22:20:38] Coach_Z : How often do people get ADL'ed?
[2017-03-27 22:21:19] Tetsuo : men or women?
[2017-03-27 22:21:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 170000 @ 0.00000856
[2017-03-27 22:21:29] Coach_Z : at 1x leverage, 3x ledverage, etc.
[2017-03-27 22:21:51] mark121 : u shud be fine
[2017-03-27 22:22:09] Coach_Z : it went up to 4 lights right away
[2017-03-27 22:22:13] Coach_Z : on cross margin
[2017-03-27 22:25:12] rapidtrades : /fork
[2017-03-27 22:25:13] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 829.00 (2.35%) Bitfinex BCU : 200.87 (0.01%) SLQ : 1 hour, 10 mins```
[2017-03-27 22:36:09] pazuzu : bitmex with spread of $3 or to $6 is what quit money to people
[2017-03-27 22:36:12] Dynamix : rupple dead lolool
[2017-03-27 22:36:43] Dynamix : Ripple*
[2017-03-27 22:41:32] ubba : BREAKING NEWS
[2017-03-27 22:47:20] rangle : anon alts gettin spanked
[2017-03-27 22:50:52] alejandromasari : https://medium.com/@francispouliot/canadian-bitcoin-economic-nodes-unite-against-bitcoin-unlimited-412786fb4bb6
[2017-03-27 22:55:44] \//\ : bitcoin plus up 3000% now
[2017-03-27 22:55:50] \//\ : get in before you miss out on the next big thing
[2017-03-27 22:56:43] aethlios : cheap 0.125 btc
[2017-03-27 22:57:38] rangle : wait until the bagholders get their coins out of storage
[2017-03-27 22:57:49] rangle : to watch, not buy
[2017-03-27 22:58:04] \//\ : too bad you cant short it
[2017-03-27 22:59:12] pazuzu : you see chart weekly shark buying
[2017-03-27 23:02:27] pazuzu : they papered lol there wedge bullish weekly with minimum proyection $700 base wedge
[2017-03-27 23:03:20] pazuzu : but objective is $400
[2017-03-27 23:03:59] pazuzu : for up top channel bullish $1746
[2017-03-27 23:05:21] pazuzu : is more probably $1746 top channel bullish
[2017-03-27 23:06:04] ubba : damn bitcoinplus just dropped 300%
[2017-03-27 23:06:10] ubba : now its up 100%
[2017-03-27 23:06:13] ubba : now its down 200% again
[2017-03-27 23:06:49] ubba : BTCD is at 755%
[2017-03-27 23:10:53] frog : moving up now
[2017-03-27 23:11:02] Diplomata : /price
[2017-03-27 23:11:04] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1036.37 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1040.90 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1038.88 (0.00%) itBit : 1036.99 (0.00%) Kraken : 1037.11 (0.00%) GDAX : 1042.00 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-27 23:11:35] pazuzu : they are sharks are buying
[2017-03-27 23:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECH17`: sell 3 @ 0.051958
[2017-03-27 23:31:49] gustavo7 : /förk
[2017-03-27 23:31:57] gustavo7 : /fork
[2017-03-27 23:31:58] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 815.02 (-1.69%) Bitfinex BCU : 205.12 (2.12%) SLQ : 1 hour, 6 mins```
[2017-03-27 23:47:06] gustavo7 : heh that ZEC liq just lingering
[2017-03-27 23:49:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 4 @ 0.017824
[2017-03-27 23:51:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRJ17`: buy 243 @ 0.018097
[2017-03-27 23:52:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 83 @ 0.079160
[2017-03-27 23:54:35] rangle : wow XMR swing
[2017-03-27 23:55:17] mark121 : this song and dance is getting ridiculous
[2017-03-27 23:55:46] rangle : yeah theres massive fucking going on
[2017-03-27 23:58:19] \//\ : i didnt get in XMR in time
[2017-03-27 23:58:31] \//\ : but figured that was the bottom with all those buy orders
[2017-03-28 00:19:38] bigpapa : What we all thinking
[2017-03-28 00:19:53] bigpapa : and where did this rally come from
[2017-03-28 00:20:48] \//\ : gotta love when polo goes down
[2017-03-28 00:20:56] \//\ : site goes down a few times a day
[2017-03-28 00:21:36] DorianWhack-A-Moto : yeah you'd think with all the money they make they could invest in a faster trading engine
[2017-03-28 00:21:50] bigpapa : What is polo
[2017-03-28 00:21:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Poloniex
[2017-03-28 00:22:01] alejandromasari : bigpapa: poloniex
[2017-03-28 00:22:06] bigpapa : word
[2017-03-28 00:22:08] bigpapa : thanx
[2017-03-28 00:22:24] bigpapa : lol u out polo in an iPhone and it comes up with a shirt
[2017-03-28 00:22:41] alejandromasari : lol
[2017-03-28 00:22:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : good day for shitcoins
[2017-03-28 00:22:52] alejandromasari : poloniexeuuuu
[2017-03-28 00:23:09] alejandromasari : some russian mob runs it
[2017-03-28 00:23:30] bigpapa : Fuk Russia
[2017-03-28 00:23:41] bigpapa : that place is a joke
[2017-03-28 00:24:02] Rado : I wish every coin on Polo is on margin
[2017-03-28 00:24:11] mark121 : me2
[2017-03-28 00:24:18] Rado : you can make a fortune shorting this POS coins
[2017-03-28 00:24:19] bigpapa : sup mark
[2017-03-28 00:24:29] bigpapa : u clean up on your eth
[2017-03-28 00:24:37] mark121 : yoyo yeap
[2017-03-28 00:24:45] bigpapa : hopefully u cleared out prior to that drop
[2017-03-28 00:25:06] bigpapa : I close my longs yesterday
[2017-03-28 00:25:11] bigpapa : thankfully
[2017-03-28 00:25:42] mark121 : ya i did, and shorted some tooo
[2017-03-28 00:25:58] mark121 : but didndt catch the short for max profit
[2017-03-28 00:26:16] mark121 : alas i must sleep every once in a while :)
[2017-03-28 00:26:33] mark121 : idunno im thinking btc about to shit the bed
[2017-03-28 00:27:02] bigpapa : I don't see why we would go up anymore
[2017-03-28 00:27:18] mark121 : i wonder if any1 is watching this price action and thinking "wow epic battle between longs and shorts"
[2017-03-28 00:28:25] mark121 : jjust a big act in reality
[2017-03-28 00:45:20] premium_freak : mark121: if I told you that I am thinking that - what would you do with that information?
[2017-03-28 00:45:47] mark121 : Used it against u for the rest of your life
[2017-03-28 00:45:54] mark121 : use rather..*
[2017-03-28 00:46:28] mark121 : maybe get a gift at xmas once I get used to having you in my life.. that kinda thing.
[2017-03-28 00:48:33] mark121 : however the gift wud always relate to, and remind you of, your silly naivety
[2017-03-28 00:49:44] premium_freak : then I won't say
[2017-03-28 00:50:16] premium_freak : dammit, of course I bought the top again!
[2017-03-28 00:51:13] mark121 : dont worry it'll likely reverse shortly
[2017-03-28 00:51:31] premium_freak : reverse up?
[2017-03-28 00:52:26] mark121 : Heh, im half kiddin but it jus seems to obvious after that whole show just put on
[2017-03-28 00:53:24] premium_freak : I dunno.. I just felt an urge to buy back some more of my shorts before it turns negative p/l
[2017-03-28 00:53:53] MikeHunt : MFI is around overbought region on 1hr
[2017-03-28 00:53:56] premium_freak : which probably is fueling this whole rally
[2017-03-28 01:10:42] mark121 : dash looks lik eit has to go down
[2017-03-28 01:10:50] mark121 : hasnt completed a top
[2017-03-28 01:11:04] mark121 : i mean, it has , it hasnt broken down far enuf imo
[2017-03-28 01:11:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 124 @ 0.046630
[2017-03-28 01:11:23] mark121 : all the selling we see is fake
[2017-03-28 01:12:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRJ17`: sell 120 @ 0.017545
[2017-03-28 01:12:34] mark121 : self sales/buys
[2017-03-28 01:13:51] mark121 : and or deceptive :D
[2017-03-28 01:16:57] mark121 : this cud go on for a while longer
[2017-03-28 01:17:14] mark121 : but volume profile confirms a H&S that has not completed yet
[2017-03-28 01:17:25] mark121 : and the PT from that pattern is scary low
[2017-03-28 01:20:16] foobar : the selling is real but the news is fake
[2017-03-28 01:21:56] mark121 : I mean to say, if thi sgoes up, i have to question the selling
[2017-03-28 01:22:33] mark121 : and i mean seriously go up, cus i think we cud go up a bit here
[2017-03-28 01:23:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHJ17`: sell 21 @ 0.045440
[2017-03-28 01:24:07] mark121 : i tend to accept the accumulation/dist pattern to be more relevant when price chart is clowning
[2017-03-28 01:25:31] XBT_IHCT : mark121: hey good evening, where are you talking about polo?
[2017-03-28 01:26:22] mark121 : Am I talking about Polo?
[2017-03-28 01:26:26] mark121 : Good evening :)
[2017-03-28 01:28:09] mark121 : polo site buying engine is terrible and greatly favors the MM's/APIs
[2017-03-28 01:28:17] mark121 : my 2 cents on polo :p
[2017-03-28 01:30:35] mark121 : im referring to all exchanges with regards to the the buys and sells -- they are often self sales/buys of MM and/or covering/selling from massively built positions as its clear those with most of the coin collude (imo)
[2017-03-28 01:32:45] mark121 : those who move the market essentially have a license to print money
[2017-03-28 01:39:31] XBT_IHCT : wow, just been having a look on polo and wtf is going on with XBC!!?
[2017-03-28 01:39:57] mark121 : i think it has 1 mil supply
[2017-03-28 01:40:09] mark121 : thus a great coin to pump and dump
[2017-03-28 01:40:36] mark121 : and saw it getin pumped
[2017-03-28 01:40:46] XBT_IHCT : and to a lesser extent BITS and BTCD
[2017-03-28 01:41:11] puppet : would you care to speculate on who colludes to move the bitcoin markets? and how they decide to act in coordination?
[2017-03-28 01:41:36] mark121 : dont need to speculate
[2017-03-28 01:41:44] mark121 : the ones with massive amounts of coins
[2017-03-28 01:42:40] puppet : I guess I'm looking for details
[2017-03-28 01:42:48] mark121 : this is common place in capitalistic markets I wud say
[2017-03-28 01:43:38] mark121 : billlionaires, funds, etc move the markets and those retail who manage to make a buck tend to be living off their table scraps - generally speaking
[2017-03-28 01:43:53] XBT_IHCT : yeah, but it would be really nice to get a heads up by some insider I think @puppet is saying! lol
[2017-03-28 01:44:39] puppet : that's not really what I'm saying
[2017-03-28 01:44:56] puppet : although it would be nice @ XBT_IHCT
[2017-03-28 01:45:08] mark121 : lol i understood what hes saying but yes we'd all enjoy that
[2017-03-28 01:45:28] mark121 : not sure how u look at this market
[2017-03-28 01:45:31] puppet : I personally don't have much context for these markets, and I imagine some here may have a better sense of the fishiness
[2017-03-28 01:45:37] mark121 : in terms of your perspective
[2017-03-28 01:46:01] mark121 : but u shud treat it as a tool used to take money from the careless and dimwitted
[2017-03-28 01:46:24] mark121 : and basically its trying to do that to you, on purpose, all the time
[2017-03-28 01:46:40] puppet : gotcha
[2017-03-28 01:47:20] puppet : when I first arrived here, I thought it might be the trolls doing that
[2017-03-28 01:47:38] mark121 : some here do
[2017-03-28 01:47:43] mark121 : in their small way
[2017-03-28 01:48:06] puppet : hmm, yes the localized strangenesses
[2017-03-28 01:48:07] mark121 : "Ross" and "Dynamix" both told people to buy dash today
[2017-03-28 01:48:20] mark121 : right b4 it was obvously going to fall
[2017-03-28 01:48:26] mark121 : so u cant trust most
[2017-03-28 01:48:34] mark121 : some cud jus be wrong, but some are MM
[2017-03-28 01:49:58] puppet : someone by the name of looposhi has been howling for dash blood for a while now
[2017-03-28 01:50:12] puppet : I trust that one more than most
[2017-03-28 01:51:04] mark121 : aye, time and experience in tems of dealin with the person is the only way to validate their intention
[2017-03-28 01:52:08] mark121 : includin me! :p
[2017-03-28 01:52:23] XBT_IHCT : we should set up a private website called altinsiders and rate members on how truthful e.g descriptive or deceptive their information is!
[2017-03-28 01:52:53] mark121 : that is similar to the function of the markin system on poloniex
[2017-03-28 01:52:58] mark121 : marking*
[2017-03-28 01:53:03] Shaman : make it an ethereum dapp
[2017-03-28 01:53:32] mark121 : but it also brings n00bs galore and spam galore so i prefer the old fashioned way
[2017-03-28 01:53:35] Shaman : and financially incentivize it
[2017-03-28 01:54:03] Shaman : that way it might be more accurate
[2017-03-28 01:54:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 12080 @ 1035.50
[2017-03-28 01:55:06] XBT_IHCT : mark121: what's the old fashioned way?
[2017-03-28 01:55:48] XBT_IHCT : Shaman: of course
[2017-03-28 01:55:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 494 @ 1028.11
[2017-03-28 01:56:01] mark121 : hehe just using your head and keeping it in your memory
[2017-03-28 01:56:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 953 @ 1027.37
[2017-03-28 01:56:30] mark121 : i was referin to the marking system in particular :P
[2017-03-28 01:57:40] mark121 : there is a pretty massive bullish cross that could occuring soon
[2017-03-28 01:58:13] puppet : I bullieve in bitcoin again
[2017-03-28 01:58:20] puppet : long term
[2017-03-28 01:58:26] mark121 : cumulative ROC based indicator
[2017-03-28 01:58:40] XBT_IHCT : hey @puppet I got distracted and meant to tell you that if you click on the username of someone in the trollbox it makes directs the message to them for you.
[2017-03-28 01:59:01] mark121 : or type the first letter or two and hit "tab"
[2017-03-28 02:00:41] aethlios : short squeeze-bull trap possibly ended, bear trend to resume.
[2017-03-28 02:01:06] mark121 : not sure about that
[2017-03-28 02:01:07] aethlios : books look empty here and okcoin future.
[2017-03-28 02:01:08] mark121 : just yet
[2017-03-28 02:01:28] mark121 : ah
[2017-03-28 02:01:58] KingTuna : With this HF FUD.. I don't see us resuming going up .. Not practical
[2017-03-28 02:02:04] KingTuna : I'll stay hedged
[2017-03-28 02:02:24] puppet : that's neat @XBT_IHCT @mark121
[2017-03-28 02:04:02] aethlios : mark121: https://basicattentiontoken.org/ Brendan Eich. if there is a cap in the ico funds could be a 10x profit.
[2017-03-28 02:04:06] mark121 : when i say up i mean for coyuple hrs
[2017-03-28 02:04:22] mark121 : how sthat work
[2017-03-28 02:04:33] mark121 : do I buy in now?
[2017-03-28 02:05:13] mark121 : weird, that site seems similar to another i saw recently..
[2017-03-28 02:06:05] mark121 : I thought it was to late to buy take part
[2017-03-28 02:07:01] XBT_IHCT : mark121: hey are you still trading XBCM17?
[2017-03-28 02:07:55] mark121 : XBT* no ju sswap
[2017-03-28 02:08:40] XBT_IHCT : oh okay
[2017-03-28 02:09:24] aethlios : I will declare a bear market in btc if price in stamp and finex daily close below 800.
[2017-03-28 02:09:25] XBT_IHCT : aethlios: hey that site looks like a cool idea! if it is executed in the right way of course
[2017-03-28 02:10:38] aethlios : XBT_IHCT: the creator of javascript is the main dev. so serious people behind and nothing else exists in crypto now. only thing is to have a cap in accepted funds.
[2017-03-28 02:11:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 24 @ 0.079494
[2017-03-28 02:12:38] XBT_IHCT : aethlios: well steemit is kind of similar or could have done something similar
[2017-03-28 02:13:19] mark121 : hw do u get in it
[2017-03-28 02:13:53] aethlios : mark121: terms not yet announced, subscribe to newsletter to get notified.
[2017-03-28 02:14:25] aethlios : https://basicattentiontoken.org/token/ it is on ethereum (again eth is used and not useless btc)
[2017-03-28 02:14:53] aethlios : i will wait for the terms and decide if there is profit to be made.
[2017-03-28 02:16:21] XBT_IHCT : wow that's a bit harsh on btc man! I thought you were a true believer.
[2017-03-28 02:16:30] mark121 : most ppl i kno have done quite well getin in on those
[2017-03-28 02:17:32] aethlios : XBT_IHCT: I am a trader and investor full time, so i can't be a believer of anything because i will be homeless soon.
[2017-03-28 02:17:59] mark121 : :D
[2017-03-28 02:18:18] XBT_IHCT : lol
[2017-03-28 02:18:54] Apocalyptic : aethlios: when are you leaving for your summer break ?
[2017-03-28 02:20:22] aethlios : always reevaluate your positions and ask: what if i am wrong?? and then try to prove that you are not. and this has to happen every second because new data (info, news, price action) enter your evaluation system
[2017-03-28 02:20:48] aethlios : Apocalyptic: 1 june - 31 august, so now work overtime.
[2017-03-28 02:23:22] XBT_IHCT : aethlios: agreed, but I am trying to work my way up to a sleeping hedge locking strategy
[2017-03-28 02:23:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 5 @ 0.080626
[2017-03-28 02:24:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHJ17`: buy 135 @ 0.081200
[2017-03-28 02:24:15] mark121 : i think it may drop soon
[2017-03-28 02:24:27] XBT_IHCT : because not enough sleep for too long at a time is a real pain in the pooper! @aethlios
[2017-03-28 02:24:34] mark121 : dash top drop looks complete
[2017-03-28 02:26:03] aethlios : XBT_IHCT: not only the sleep but with crypto you need to have your mind in the market 24/7 anywhere you are, this can harm your returns if keep it for extended time. but profit is sweet.....
[2017-03-28 02:26:32] aethlios : stocks, forex close weekends, so the mind gets a rest.
[2017-03-28 02:27:01] mark121 : biggest mistake traders make is over-trading
[2017-03-28 02:27:23] mark121 : you only a few good trades per year
[2017-03-28 02:27:27] mark121 : only need*
[2017-03-28 02:27:32] KingTuna : mark121: +1
[2017-03-28 02:27:48] Apocalyptic : over-trading, over-sizing positions and not cutting losses
[2017-03-28 02:28:53] puppet : yuuup
[2017-03-28 02:29:17] mark121 : u can be a great trader, but with poor risk management u can go broke quicktime
[2017-03-28 02:30:38] XBT_IHCT : aethlios: indeed, I've been dabbling with forex too recently. But like at the moment, I have a small btc hedge locked in with about 200% trapped between them, so technically whatever the market does I should be okay to sleep in a little while.
[2017-03-28 02:30:42] mark121 : thing is with these rules, they are all quite logical but MUCH harder to truely digest and live by
[2017-03-28 02:30:48] mark121 : for the novice/new trader
[2017-03-28 02:31:24] puppet : hey, you don't respect the fire until you burn your hand
[2017-03-28 02:31:38] mark121 : precisely
[2017-03-28 02:32:02] aethlios : mark121: last 1 year i started "non-believer investing" also strategy entering alts and ico. for example i have now 200k lisk coins and i earn 2k lisk per month as income now 600 usd, so create income and also sell the ico's. this has much research but then you let it ride and not constantly watch the price.
[2017-03-28 02:32:06] XBT_IHCT : mark121: totally agree! it's taken me over a year
[2017-03-28 02:33:07] XBT_IHCT : aethlios: is lisk a pos coin?
[2017-03-28 02:33:19] mark121 : it gets pumped on polo i noticed
[2017-03-28 02:33:42] KingTuna : Time to sink below $1k again
[2017-03-28 02:33:50] mark121 : what do u get the income from? lending?
[2017-03-28 02:33:58] aethlios : XBT_IHCT: yes, but not exactly, has a delegate system and they earn the new coins and distribute a % to the voters.
[2017-03-28 02:34:54] mark121 : KingTuna: yep, think i nailed this one
[2017-03-28 02:35:00] mark121 : *knock on wood*
[2017-03-28 02:35:19] KingTuna : mark121: Hope so.. What was your theory?
[2017-03-28 02:35:26] aethlios : https://liskelite.com/index.php?route=common/home
[2017-03-28 02:35:28] aethlios : http://liskpool.xyz/list/
[2017-03-28 02:35:52] XBT_IHCT : aethlios: interesting but how much did you get those LSKs for?
[2017-03-28 02:35:56] mark121 : [22:24] mark121: i think it may drop soon
[2017-03-28 02:35:57] aethlios : so if lisk gets to 1 usd will earn around 1800 usd per month.
[2017-03-28 02:36:20] mark121 : i meantit more personally - seems to be doing what I thought it wud in the moment
[2017-03-28 02:36:31] mark121 : not much of a theory lol
[2017-03-28 02:36:48] aethlios : XBT_IHCT: i got in the ico with 150k *0.07 usd, sold 0.35 usd and got in again with 200k * 0.125 usd. now let them ride.
[2017-03-28 02:37:09] aethlios : and every week they pay you.
[2017-03-28 02:37:14] mark121 : oh nice
[2017-03-28 02:37:21] mark121 : 150k USD or 150k coins
[2017-03-28 02:37:48] aethlios : 150k coins
[2017-03-28 02:38:03] mark121 : was gona say, u aint goin homeless too sooN!
[2017-03-28 02:38:08] mark121 : :)
[2017-03-28 02:38:12] aethlios : they only have 100 million, so i have 0.2% of the total supply.
[2017-03-28 02:38:47] aethlios : if lisk goes to zero maybe i will, but i sell the income lisks every month
[2017-03-28 02:39:03] mark121 : Ya, as i was saying, i hear good things about getin in those - have u tried any others?
[2017-03-28 02:39:44] mark121 : as i said earlier rather**
[2017-03-28 02:40:03] aethlios : also have 1ST firstblood from ico *0.07733 usd, now has 0.27 and will earn income from that also when platform goes live.
[2017-03-28 02:41:06] XBT_IHCT : that's cool man!
[2017-03-28 02:41:12] aethlios : now looking for xclassic which will be rebranded to zen (annonymity coin) and basicattentiontoken. so i started having an investing also style.
[2017-03-28 02:41:45] aethlios : https://blockoperations.com/zen-launching-harmonious-split-zclassic-april/
[2017-03-28 02:41:46] mark121 : thats about the only time u can truly invest
[2017-03-28 02:41:52] mark121 : in crypto
[2017-03-28 02:41:59] mark121 : alts
[2017-03-28 02:42:19] mark121 : tertiary alt as Id classify them
[2017-03-28 02:42:22] XBT_IHCT : How long have you been playing with alts then man? @aethlios
[2017-03-28 02:42:45] aethlios : i already mine zclassic to accumulate my position before 23 of may, and wait basicattentiontoken terms to decide. you can rollover profits from one project to the next.
[2017-03-28 02:43:17] mark121 : what hardware piece does it utilize most
[2017-03-28 02:43:20] mark121 : CPU or video
[2017-03-28 02:43:23] mark121 : card
[2017-03-28 02:43:25] aethlios : last 18 months started investing a % of my trading profits to them.
[2017-03-28 02:43:56] XBT_IHCT : nice one
[2017-03-28 02:44:34] mark121 : may i suggest SPY Options (Put Options) for the latter half of the year (expirary date)
[2017-03-28 02:44:50] mark121 : liklihood of a crash is large
[2017-03-28 02:44:59] aethlios : i mine using nicehash, i am 12% of the network, if i buy i will make the price to go much up, so i mine the new coins and with stable price!!
[2017-03-28 02:45:14] mark121 : it is extremely profitable
[2017-03-28 02:45:40] aethlios : mark121: to mine equihash algo???
[2017-03-28 02:45:57] mark121 : Buying Put OPtions before astock market crash
[2017-03-28 02:45:58] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-28 02:47:05] aethlios : mark121: i have account in IB but more to have a long position in gold silver to hedge my usd capital, but i don't trade anything out of crypto, i can't follow many markets.
[2017-03-28 02:47:21] mark121 : aye
[2017-03-28 02:47:50] aethlios : so my opinion is fing projects that can give 10x return in 12 months, put a small (5% of your capital) there.
[2017-03-28 02:48:53] mark121 : It is the smart thing to do
[2017-03-28 02:49:05] aethlios : mark121: i was thinking to short the swiss 10 year bong future when ytm was -0.5% but i feared the CBs to send rates much deeper.
[2017-03-28 02:50:35] mark121 : ah nice, least u know about other asset classes
[2017-03-28 02:50:53] mark121 : most crypto folks are very green
[2017-03-28 02:51:25] puppet : aethlios: what do you think of this project: http://www.sphre.co/cs/
[2017-03-28 02:51:37] XBT_IHCT : mark121: how long have you been trading?
[2017-03-28 02:51:48] aethlios : mark121: i was working 5 years as a stock broker so i traded all.
[2017-03-28 02:52:04] aethlios : since 2006
[2017-03-28 02:52:28] mark121 : i work for a fund , about 10 years professionally
[2017-03-28 02:52:59] l3f : aethlios: I think we're back to pump
[2017-03-28 02:52:59] mark121 : altho i dont need the job, they give me alot of freedom and my buddies r there
[2017-03-28 02:53:03] l3f : Massive bull div on weekly
[2017-03-28 02:53:14] aethlios : but trading full time for a living last 5.
[2017-03-28 02:53:30] mark121 : post ur div
[2017-03-28 02:53:37] l3f : No resistance until 1100
[2017-03-28 02:53:43] l3f : mark121: weekly rsi
[2017-03-28 02:54:07] l3f : Look at alts
[2017-03-28 02:54:09] l3f : it's a sea of red
[2017-03-28 02:54:15] l3f : money is coming back into btc
[2017-03-28 02:54:37] mark121 : yep
[2017-03-28 02:54:49] aethlios : mark121: https://yunbi.com/markets/1stcny# firstblood.
[2017-03-28 02:54:50] mark121 : this is the bullish cross i was referin to
[2017-03-28 02:55:00] mark121 : aethlios: ty
[2017-03-28 02:55:42] mark121 : a double cross on the 2hr TF cumulative ROC - a zero line and a signal cross - tends to be reliable as it uses 100 periods
[2017-03-28 02:56:28] mark121 : however its not there yet, cu dstill turn away
[2017-03-28 02:56:37] l3f : No bear market until 800 break
[2017-03-28 02:56:43] aethlios : mark121: don't buy now, just show you what happens.
[2017-03-28 02:56:44] mark121 : dash is up
[2017-03-28 02:56:52] mark121 : l3f
[2017-03-28 02:57:09] mark121 : maybe red but up from 1hr ago
[2017-03-28 02:57:37] l3f : mark121: I built an alt index using alt/usd prices and alts market are moving down as a whole
[2017-03-28 02:57:43] l3f : global stock market crash will boost btc as well
[2017-03-28 02:58:07] l3f : BU being denied by f2pool and bitgo is also bullish
[2017-03-28 02:58:12] aethlios : l3f: what happens to stocks?? i don't foloow at all.
[2017-03-28 02:58:15] mark121 : of cours ei twill
[2017-03-28 02:58:22] l3f : aethlios: a minor 1% crash across all markets
[2017-03-28 02:58:27] mark121 : it iwll be massive
[2017-03-28 02:58:34] mark121 : for hedges
[2017-03-28 02:58:34] mark121 : :)
[2017-03-28 02:59:00] l3f : aethlios: well look at s&p
[2017-03-28 02:59:09] aethlios : l3f: @mark121 if crash happens i want to invest to etf ROBO.
[2017-03-28 02:59:28] l3f : It happened after the healthcare bill was denied
[2017-03-28 02:59:30] l3f : gold rising as well
[2017-03-28 02:59:43] XBT_IHCT : l3f: XBC is still up by 1492.77% though
[2017-03-28 02:59:45] aethlios : robotics could be like smartphones next 2 decades.
[2017-03-28 02:59:49] mark121 : oh SPY is still at 233
[2017-03-28 02:59:53] l3f : XBT_IHCT: yeah that's a random pump
[2017-03-28 03:00:07] Apocalyptic : mark121: your funds has a short SPY position ?
[2017-03-28 03:00:30] aethlios : l3f: hope for a fiat world crash, so ltc can be pumped too??????
[2017-03-28 03:00:33] mark121 : lol. while I shouldnt say so, just about every1 does
[2017-03-28 03:00:36] l3f : aethlios: ahhah
[2017-03-28 03:00:47] l3f : but fundamentals look good + technicals look fine
[2017-03-28 03:00:55] XBT_IHCT : yeah, sure would have been nice to catch that one with my small bal on polo ahead of time!
[2017-03-28 03:01:04] l3f : as long as BU cancer doesn't come back and we're going to 1200+
[2017-03-28 03:01:23] mark121 : i mean, we (funds) are all building massive short positions
[2017-03-28 03:01:26] mark121 : across the board
[2017-03-28 03:01:42] mark121 : June
[2017-03-28 03:01:47] XBT_IHCT : mark121: in forex too?
[2017-03-28 03:01:49] mark121 : = DDay
[2017-03-28 03:01:59] Apocalyptic : mark121: how about US investment-grade bonds ?
[2017-03-28 03:02:04] puppet : most of what I know about the markets is from reading ZH, would any of you recommend sources that mau balance that perspective a bit (but still readable)?
[2017-03-28 03:02:24] aethlios : we here in crypto are in our world so protected from outside.
[2017-03-28 03:02:51] mark121 : In forex, i wouldnt know
[2017-03-28 03:03:00] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1aQ-XGWors&t=2s nice movie to watch
[2017-03-28 03:03:55] mark121 : I was referring to mostly equities
[2017-03-28 03:04:04] mark121 : we are long some bonds
[2017-03-28 03:04:15] mark121 : USIG bonds
[2017-03-28 03:04:49] aethlios : puppet: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvSnci_3qHF_7c2LQnP_wg/videos i follow that person (former bonds trader) for a daily review. he is decent.
[2017-03-28 03:05:12] mark121 : timerdigest is an excellent a cheap resource
[2017-03-28 03:05:17] mark121 : most traders should have
[2017-03-28 03:05:23] aethlios : so ltc to 100 is possible if crash in stocks happen.
[2017-03-28 03:06:08] mark121 : it is a weekly newlsletter summarizing the top timers sentiments across the main assets classes
[2017-03-28 03:06:33] mark121 : commodities bonds and equities
[2017-03-28 03:06:57] mark121 : if ur lookin for books
[2017-03-28 03:07:04] mark121 : I suggest textbooks, and take notes.
[2017-03-28 03:08:04] mark121 : i think a basic undrstanding of elliot wave
[2017-03-28 03:08:05] aethlios : hope crash doesn't happen in my summer break.
[2017-03-28 03:08:15] mark121 : is beneficial for every trader of every asset
[2017-03-28 03:08:32] mark121 : it wil be june
[2017-03-28 03:08:40] aethlios : i will have to take my trading weapons again and get in the battle.
[2017-03-28 03:09:58] XBT_IHCT : mark121: I just wondered if there was a correlation or lol if this clip is correct: https://youtu.be/m1aQ-XGWors?t=3m25s
[2017-03-28 03:11:06] Secup : where u guys lookout for ico ?
[2017-03-28 03:11:13] mark121 : Apocalyptic: We bought about 50 million worth of SPY Put options dated to the later half of the year 240.00 startoing pt
[2017-03-28 03:11:55] Apocalyptic : mark121: nice
[2017-03-28 03:12:08] aethlios : mark121: what about vix futures?? or options??
[2017-03-28 03:12:21] mark121 : VIX has been wacky
[2017-03-28 03:12:31] mark121 : we completely abandoned it
[2017-03-28 03:12:55] aethlios : mark121: let me check prices
[2017-03-28 03:12:59] Apocalyptic : I should have written some when VIX peaked today
[2017-03-28 03:14:03] mark121 : XBT_IHCT: there are always those who see the crashes coming
[2017-03-28 03:14:14] mark121 : thats where the terms smart money comes from
[2017-03-28 03:14:32] mark121 : dumb money is retail for the most part, doesnmt mean they are dumb (or we)
[2017-03-28 03:14:40] mark121 : its right the majority of the time
[2017-03-28 03:15:05] mark121 : but is wrong during the big tops and bottoms
[2017-03-28 03:15:09] ubba : BREAKING NEWS: HARD FORK JUST HAPPENED
[2017-03-28 03:15:15] ubba : BTCU at 72%
[2017-03-28 03:15:26] DorianWhack-A-Moto : /fork
[2017-03-28 03:15:27] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 815.02 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 214.41 (4.53%) SLQ : 3 hours, 43 mins```
[2017-03-28 03:15:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : no
[2017-03-28 03:15:48] ubba : yes
[2017-03-28 03:15:55] mark121 : smart money nails tops and bottoms
[2017-03-28 03:16:17] l3f : https://i.imgur.com/1AZl5Lq.png
[2017-03-28 03:16:28] l3f : Yo bitmex embed that image and retweet on your twitter account
[2017-03-28 03:16:28] l3f : thanks
[2017-03-28 03:17:00] ubba : nice hentai
[2017-03-28 03:18:30] ubba : lol at xbc
[2017-03-28 03:18:37] ubba : nice
[2017-03-28 03:19:04] XBT_IHCT : ubba: where did you read this "news"?
[2017-03-28 03:20:19] Apocalyptic : XBT_IHCT: it's fake news
[2017-03-28 03:20:29] Apocalyptic : he's been doing it for a while
[2017-03-28 03:20:49] mark121 : ubba been spamming that all day
[2017-03-28 03:20:51] mark121 : yep
[2017-03-28 03:20:58] XBT_IHCT : lol I was about to ask "was it one of those fake news places?"
[2017-03-28 03:22:35] mark121 : dip coming i think
[2017-03-28 03:22:37] ubba : it was insider info
[2017-03-28 03:24:14] mark121 : insider your bum>?
[2017-03-28 03:24:21] qr : /rekt
[2017-03-28 03:24:21] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 5 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 170000 @ 0.00000856 ``` ``` 5 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1140000 @ 0.00000883 ``` ``` 5 hours, 14 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 100000 @ 0.00000886 ```
[2017-03-28 03:24:37] qr : /rekt
[2017-03-28 03:24:37] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 5 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 170000 @ 0.00000856 ``` ``` 5 hours, 14 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1140000 @ 0.00000883 ``` ``` 5 hours, 14 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 100000 @ 0.00000886 ```
[2017-03-28 03:24:47] qr : /help
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[2017-03-28 03:25:00] qr : /price
[2017-03-28 03:25:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1036.17 (-0.02%) Bitfinex : 1037.30 (-0.35%) The Woodchipper : 1034.60 (-0.41%) itBit : 1038.36 (0.13%) Kraken : 1040.00 (0.28%) GDAX : 1038.33 (-0.35%) SLQ : 4 hours, 13 mins```
[2017-03-28 03:25:25] qr : /wall
[2017-03-28 03:25:33] puppet : neat stuff @aethlios @mark121
[2017-03-28 03:25:41] aethlios : l3f: if fork happens, i am interested to buy btc and keep it for a long rally, but i prefer bu, what do we do you think???
[2017-03-28 03:25:53] qr : /wall
[2017-03-28 03:25:57] qr : Wall broken?
[2017-03-28 03:26:19] puppet : hard to tell what to prioritize learning, as far as textbook reading goes
[2017-03-28 03:26:25] startChat : https://blog.greenaddress.it/2017/03/27/greenaddress-position-on-contentious-forks/
[2017-03-28 03:26:35] startChat : "We support this technology because it enables voluntary actions and makes coercive behaviours ineffective."
[2017-03-28 03:27:28] mark121 : intermarket analysis is a good start
[2017-03-28 03:27:39] qr : xD
[2017-03-28 03:27:50] qr : /price
[2017-03-28 03:27:52] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1036.14 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1036.90 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1033.73 (0.00%) itBit : 1036.91 (0.00%) Kraken : 1036.52 (0.00%) GDAX : 1038.07 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-28 03:28:59] puppet : mark121: is the 4 pm ZH analysis an example of that?
[2017-03-28 03:29:14] qr : Care. You'll go broke ;)
[2017-03-28 03:30:23] mark121 : link me
[2017-03-28 03:30:31] puppet : my brain is full of marine invertebrate zoology trivia unfortunately
[2017-03-28 03:30:35] mark121 : hahah
[2017-03-28 03:30:38] puppet : some other things as well
[2017-03-28 03:34:01] mark121 : in short, it dscribes the rotation that takes place and how all markets are related due to globalization etc - everything is connected
[2017-03-28 03:36:05] longbydefault : /fork
[2017-03-28 03:36:06] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 815.02 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 214.41 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-28 03:36:09] mark121 : but less abstract, i made it sound to specific
[2017-03-28 03:36:28] mark121 : more general rather, lol ignore abstract
[2017-03-28 03:37:25] Apocalyptic : mark121: so what brings a hf guy here ? easy trading against green bitcoiners ?
[2017-03-28 03:38:21] qr : Accurate https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846527548494274560
[2017-03-28 03:38:52] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/L7eaB6Uy/ don't feed the bear trap.
[2017-03-28 03:39:14] mark121 : Apocalyptic: u nailed it
[2017-03-28 03:39:23] qr : Clearer more accurate version https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846514395328897024
[2017-03-28 03:40:29] puppet : Apocalyptic: hf guy?
[2017-03-28 03:40:52] qr : Is this crypto or BDSM talk?
[2017-03-28 03:41:40] qr : https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846517680085491712 :)
[2017-03-28 03:42:13] mark121 : a have fun guy!
[2017-03-28 03:42:24] mark121 : (hedgefund)
[2017-03-28 03:42:37] XBT_IHCT : catch you later chaps
[2017-03-28 03:42:45] mark121 : take care
[2017-03-28 03:42:51] aethlios : mark121: are your fund in the USA??
[2017-03-28 03:43:00] aethlios : is your fund....
[2017-03-28 03:43:33] qr : mark121, Member? https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846485723754606593
[2017-03-28 03:44:20] mark121 : Canada but we deal in US equities
[2017-03-28 03:44:56] qr : I guess anyone can just run a fund now
[2017-03-28 03:44:59] mark121 : qr: not sure what that is
[2017-03-28 03:45:04] qr : Exactly
[2017-03-28 03:45:33] mark121 : No, your link is that of some spamming idiot
[2017-03-28 03:45:51] qr : How is this spam? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C79Q-9HVsAAheim.jpg
[2017-03-28 03:45:52] mark121 : not sure how it relates nor how one canbe a member
[2017-03-28 03:46:05] mark121 : mark121, Member? https://twitter.com/wheelchairjuice/status/846485723754606593
[2017-03-28 03:46:13] qr : I just sent that. I don't need it again
[2017-03-28 03:46:15] qr : Stop Spamming
[2017-03-28 03:46:23] aethlios : i am selling some june here and buy biweekly okcoin to build a bear position.........
[2017-03-28 03:46:43] KingTuna : The whales on BTC are making a mint.. 1000s up to 1100, then down to 880 and now back to 1100 again? Amazing
[2017-03-28 03:46:49] mark121 : qr: i should have realized
[2017-03-28 03:46:53] puppet : generally in ecosystems, the predator biomass is a small fraction of the prey biomass
[2017-03-28 03:47:10] puppet : lots of deer kilograms for every wolf kilogram
[2017-03-28 03:48:34] puppet : but in some reef ecosystems, the productivity of the prey species is so high (high turnover), the predator biomass is 4x the prey biomass
[2017-03-28 03:48:57] puppet : crypto increasingly reminds me of such an ecosystem
[2017-03-28 03:49:09] qr : I am the system
[2017-03-28 03:49:16] qr : /rekt