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[2015-11-23 09:38:45] rapidtrades : zanza: it will be fun..can't wait to see the changes in behavior
[2015-11-23 09:39:27] zanza : hope it doesn
[2015-11-23 09:39:37] zanza : doesn't scare any takers, we will see
[2015-11-23 09:40:00] BitMEX_Wally : zanza: The spread will be tighter so they won't mind
[2015-11-23 09:40:38] zanza : yeah likely
[2015-11-23 09:40:51] zanza : so miratrader switched to 16 orders now
[2015-11-23 09:41:07] rapidtrades : hope we wont see 1 cent spreads like on some Chinese sites...that was blow major balls
[2015-11-23 09:41:41] zanza : that would be great
[2015-11-23 09:41:48] rapidtrades : zanza: not for me
[2015-11-23 09:42:09] zanza : oh your strategy relies on big disparity
[2015-11-23 09:42:46] BitMEX_Wally : If the spread was 1 cent you'd still get 2.5 bps on both sides market making, i.e. 5 bps in total
[2015-11-23 09:43:19] zanza : true dat
[2015-11-23 09:43:42] rapidtrades : but in order to get executed you'll have to hit the current bid/ask....so u pay that 7.5 bps fee
[2015-11-23 09:45:02] BitMEX_Wally : I'd pay 7.5 bps to get done with no spread :)
[2015-11-23 09:45:39] BitMEX_Wally : We'll see how it goes, I think people want liquidity more than anything, and this will boost liquidity
[2015-11-23 09:45:42] floopfloop : what is bps?
[2015-11-23 09:45:50] BitMEX_Wally : bps = basis point, i.e. 0.01%
[2015-11-23 09:45:53] BitMEX_Wally : So 5 bps = 0.05%
[2015-11-23 09:45:57] floopfloop : kk
[2015-11-23 09:46:09] floopfloop : is that on the value or margin? @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-23 09:46:11] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: yeah its a good change overall I think just wondering how it will impact me personally
[2015-11-23 09:46:30] BitMEX_Wally : Fees are on the gross value
[2015-11-23 09:46:30] zanza : adapt or go extinct :)
[2015-11-23 09:46:51] rapidtrades : prolly it would've been better to keep the taker at 0.05% since %0.75 is almost double the industry standard on futures
[2015-11-23 09:47:04] rapidtrades : sorry meant 0.075
[2015-11-23 09:47:27] BitMEX_Wally : There isn't an industry standard for 100x leveraged futures
[2015-11-23 09:47:40] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: ok :)
[2015-11-23 09:48:12] BitMEX_Wally : We are also working on a way to let people withdraw or re-leverage their realised PNL without having to wait until settlement/rebalance
[2015-11-23 09:48:59] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: I have some locked funds from 25mar...will these release on Friday?
[2015-11-23 09:49:17] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2015-11-23 09:49:44] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: I can trade em just can't withdraw?
[2015-11-23 09:50:12] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: At the moment 'withheld profit' cannot be withdrawn or traded
[2015-11-23 09:50:28] BitMEX_Wally : The idea being that it may be subject to DPE
[2015-11-23 09:50:45] BitMEX_Wally : But we're very good at keeping the DPE rate at 0% so it makes sense to let people have some of their hard earnt profit
[2015-11-23 09:51:41] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: ah okay...at other futures u can trade with the profits
[2015-11-23 09:52:28] zanza : no clawbakc here tho
[2015-11-23 09:52:34] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, but unfortunately if there is a socialised loss then you get liquidated to pay for it...
[2015-11-23 09:54:04] BitMEX_Wally : I'm still working on the details, and we will announce more later. The basic idea is that we will allow you to withdraw or re-leverage a percentage of your realisedPnl
[2015-11-23 09:54:56] BitMEX_Wally : Your PNL is still subject to DPE as usual (to keep it fair) but you basically get a 'cash advance' against it
[2015-11-23 09:55:17] zanza : this is the best trading site imo, only reason people dont use it as much since they donl't nkow about it I think
[2015-11-23 09:55:29] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: okay...being able to trade with it would be good. I'm still testing bitmex but I already see how this can be a drag on trading
[2015-11-23 09:55:40] zanza : this react.js is very sexy
[2015-11-23 09:55:45] BitMEX_Wally : zanza: We have a generous affiliate program :)
[2015-11-23 09:56:35] zanza : ill up my shliling efforst :)
[2015-11-23 09:56:45] zanza : laptop cant type
[2015-11-23 09:57:04] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: I did some market making on the illiquid products and not having the profits available would restrict my options until the Friday settlement
[2015-11-23 09:57:23] zanza : true
[2015-11-23 09:59:13] zanza : but having 100x leverage makes up for that
[2015-11-23 09:59:56] zanza : rapidtrades: if you read the contract you would know that!
[2015-11-23 10:00:13] rapidtrades : it's only 25x on those contracts
[2015-11-23 10:01:14] floopfloop : zanza: dude doesn't know how to read, which is why its so annoying, AKA forest gump
[2015-11-23 10:03:32] rapidtrades : floopfloop: don't u have somewhere to go? Like a job or smth
[2015-11-23 10:03:38] zanza : i never (purposely) run that close to using up margin
[2015-11-23 10:05:21] floopfloop : rapidtrades: don't you have something to read?
[2015-11-23 10:05:32] rapidtrades : floopfloop: nope
[2015-11-23 10:05:39] rapidtrades : reading is bad for your eyes
[2015-11-23 10:06:36] rapidtrades : okcoin really needs to stop using limit orders for execution..its the dumbest thing ever
[2015-11-23 10:06:50] rapidtrades : I meant for liquidation
[2015-11-23 10:07:13] rapidtrades : that stupid rule prolly causes all the clawbacks
[2015-11-23 10:10:15] jung1 : c'mon bitcoin
[2015-11-23 10:10:19] jung1 : do something funny
[2015-11-23 10:11:32] TschavaTschigger : that 5k wall-bot is new isn't it?
[2015-11-23 10:12:04] rapidtrades : yes
[2015-11-23 10:12:15] rapidtrades : i think its the former 17 bot
[2015-11-23 10:12:45] zanza : nah, 17 bot got demoted to 16 bot
[2015-11-23 10:13:06] TschavaTschigger : maybe 17 was too risky for testing so he tuned down to 16
[2015-11-23 10:13:13] zanza : TschavaTschigger: rofl
[2015-11-23 10:21:21] jung1 : http://i.imgur.com/hZNqvoK.png
[2015-11-23 10:21:28] jung1 : another hashrate ath
[2015-11-23 10:21:38] jung1 : same was befor 1k pump in '13
[2015-11-23 10:25:49] TschavaTschigger : another ath was 10 days ago where nothing happened
[2015-11-23 10:26:11] TschavaTschigger : or mid-sep 15
[2015-11-23 10:28:36] floopfloop : jung1: hashrate has very small relativity to price
[2015-11-23 10:55:33] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: when I send rest requests with keepalive in header, how long does it keep connection alive?
[2015-11-23 11:04:48] BitMEX_Wally : TschavaTschigger: I am not sure of the timeout
[2015-11-23 11:06:36] rapidtrades : dam I'm glad I didn't short this market
[2015-11-23 11:13:28] rapidtrades : ok I'll be back post-settlement, take care homies
[2015-11-23 11:59:11] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: do I need to re-login for the changes to apply or
[2015-11-23 11:59:31] BitMEX_Wally : Which changes?
[2015-11-23 11:59:36] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: fees
[2015-11-23 11:59:48] BitMEX_Wally : Nope, they'll be applied to everyone after settlement
[2015-11-23 11:59:58] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: cool tnx
[2015-11-23 12:00:07] SnackyCoins : ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
[2015-11-23 12:00:38] rapidtrades : god dam
[2015-11-23 12:00:40] SnackyCoins : lol someone bought it
[2015-11-23 12:01:19] rapidtrades : here we go b1tches
[2015-11-23 12:02:23] SnackyCoins : oooo neutral overlay is blue
[2015-11-23 12:03:05] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: what
[2015-11-23 12:03:12] BitMEX_Wally : New fees are live
[2015-11-23 12:03:26] SnackyCoins : on the chart if you are neither up or down, the overlay color is blue instead of r/g
[2015-11-23 12:03:44] SnackyCoins : also lifetime affiliate earnings are on :) let the shilling begin
[2015-11-23 12:03:45] rapidtrades : huh
[2015-11-23 12:07:33] oscartrader : those new fees are so much more expensive!
[2015-11-23 12:07:54] SnackyCoins : try a fiat broker
[2015-11-23 12:08:06] BitMEX_Wally : oscartrader: The `XBT24H` spread is now 0.04%
[2015-11-23 12:08:13] BitMEX_Wally : It was 0.18% earlier
[2015-11-23 12:08:39] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: plz dont worry about the dumbasses
[2015-11-23 12:08:48] oscartrader : good point - maybe healthy for the exchange. just sucks running contract to expiration
[2015-11-23 12:09:02] SnackyCoins : fiat brokers are like $10 to open then another $10 to close, so that's $20/trade, how many trades did you make today
[2015-11-23 12:09:10] rapidtrades : oscartrader: those fees are the same afaik
[2015-11-23 12:09:14] SnackyCoins : and that is a "good price"
[2015-11-23 12:09:15] rapidtrades : 0.0%
[2015-11-23 12:09:21] rapidtrades : sorry 0.05%
[2015-11-23 12:09:27] SnackyCoins : makers now geting reimbursed 8) daddy like
[2015-11-23 12:09:28] habibi : SnackyCoins: thats not even close to truth
[2015-11-23 12:09:35] BitMEX_Wally : Yes the settlement fee has not changed
[2015-11-23 12:09:40] SnackyCoins : uhh what
[2015-11-23 12:09:43] floopfloop : anyone got a better option?
[2015-11-23 12:09:48] oscartrader : aaahhh ok what's settlement fee? i thought it was taker
[2015-11-23 12:09:52] SnackyCoins : habibi show me where you get less than $10 trades
[2015-11-23 12:09:53] floopfloop : if not pleasr srfu
[2015-11-23 12:10:00] floopfloop : stfu*
[2015-11-23 12:10:09] oscartrader : if settlement fee unchanged then is a good decision
[2015-11-23 12:10:13] BitMEX_Wally : oscartrader: Yes it was the taker, but we have left it at 0.05%
[2015-11-23 12:10:16] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-11-23 12:10:21] floopfloop : please* wow macs suck
[2015-11-23 12:10:34] oscartrader : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2015-11-23 12:10:44] rapidtrades : floopfloop: depends how u trade, if u use market orders fees here are now 2.5 times above market rates
[2015-11-23 12:11:09] rapidtrades : I use mostly limits so this may work for me, depending on the competition
[2015-11-23 12:11:25] floopfloop : rapidtrades: and your argument is?
[2015-11-23 12:11:55] floopfloop : rapidtrades: any of those exchanges have good security
[2015-11-23 12:12:28] rapidtrades : floopfloop: u asked for better option...it all depends on ur trading style
[2015-11-23 12:12:41] floopfloop : rapidtrades: weak ass answer
[2015-11-23 12:13:23] floopfloop : doesnt surprise me though coming from the source
[2015-11-23 12:13:29] oscartrader : how long for 'Closed Positions' data to populate? i had contract on last expiry but not there
[2015-11-23 12:14:08] floopfloop : oscartrader: have you read the guides for contract? pretty clear
[2015-11-23 12:14:48] rapidtrades : floopfloop: if u don't know the answers, why do u even bother to reply?
[2015-11-23 12:15:20] floopfloop : rapidtrades: its all in the guides, if you can't read why do you ask
[2015-11-23 12:15:57] oscartrader : floopfloop: i have read the contract spec - can't see any info re: record populating in 'Closed Positions' tab
[2015-11-23 12:16:05] rapidtrades : floopfloop: u know you might be a better traders if u didn't get so emotional about everything
[2015-11-23 12:16:19] floopfloop : oscartrader: which?
[2015-11-23 12:16:58] rapidtrades : oscartrader: he doesn't know anything...that's just his go-to-answer
[2015-11-23 12:17:02] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you might be a better trader if you learned how to read and stop annoying everyone on the exchange
[2015-11-23 12:17:16] floopfloop : rapidtrades: then read the fcking guides
[2015-11-23 12:17:26] rapidtrades : floopfloop: they only person that seems annoyed is u, buddy
[2015-11-23 12:17:45] floopfloop : rapidtrades: lies, the whole exchange is few up with you
[2015-11-23 12:17:54] rapidtrades : floopfloop: prove it
[2015-11-23 12:18:03] floopfloop : rapidtrades: watch chat lol
[2015-11-23 12:18:16] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you are obv. 13
[2015-11-23 12:18:17] rapidtrades : <blink> EVERYONE WANTS TO SPEAK UP FEEL FREE TO DO SO
[2015-11-23 12:18:27] wurstgelee : !
[2015-11-23 12:18:28] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-23 12:18:30] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-23 12:18:50] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you are immature to the max
[2015-11-23 12:19:08] oscartrader : is there a help forum for bitmex? want to ask a number of questions - don't feel they'll get answered here with everyone talking shit
[2015-11-23 12:19:17] floopfloop : rapidtrades: "your mom" jokes even suck. negative credibility for sure
[2015-11-23 12:19:30] floopfloop : oscartrader: references?
[2015-11-23 12:19:41] rapidtrades : can we have a user ignore option?
[2015-11-23 12:19:57] floopfloop : rapidtrades: yes this guy should be banned
[2015-11-23 12:20:32] DaRealG : yes i'd like to know about a help foru m also
[2015-11-23 12:20:47] floopfloop : DaRealG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckY-LmBItUc
[2015-11-23 12:20:52] floopfloop : fuck wrong lin
[2015-11-23 12:21:01] rapidtrades : DaRealG: don't need a forum just scroll up and message users that start with BITMEX
[2015-11-23 12:21:20] floopfloop : DaRealG: look in references section
[2015-11-23 12:22:03] DaRealG : rapidtrades: ty
[2015-11-23 12:22:08] floopfloop : dont listen to @rapidtrades , he is the local idiot
[2015-11-23 12:23:12] floopfloop : read shit, stop asking stupid questions, otherwise whole community will look at you like rapidtrades which is not a good thing
[2015-11-23 12:23:31] floopfloop : literally the butt end of a bitmex joike
[2015-11-23 12:23:46] rapidtrades : floopfloop: you sure u want to continue?
[2015-11-23 12:24:01] oscartrader : BitMEX_Wally: hi wally. new here. i traded the recently expired XBT24H contract. is there somewhere i can view settlement PnL / when is the data available? 'order history' only has entry and not in 'closed positions'
[2015-11-23 12:24:04] floopfloop : questions extended from the guides are always welcome @DaRealG
[2015-11-23 12:24:27] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you dont have the balls
[2015-11-23 12:24:41] BitMEX_Wally : oscartrader: After settlement the PNL hits your wallet as a CashSettlement transaction, you can see it here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2015-11-23 12:26:48] rapidtrades : floopfloop: u need to cool off bud
[2015-11-23 12:27:03] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you need to learn how to read
[2015-11-23 12:27:21] oscartrader : BitMEX_Wally: thnks
[2015-11-23 12:28:08] floopfloop : rapidtrades: if the human body is 75% water why are you 100% salty?
[2015-11-23 12:28:09] justinlooking : rapidtrades: every trollbox needs a floopfloop, even if he is a dick to everyone
[2015-11-23 12:28:21] floopfloop : justinlooking: :) and not everyone
[2015-11-23 12:29:38] rapidtrades : floopfloop: yeah everyone who asks questions so basically all new users here
[2015-11-23 12:29:41] floopfloop : justinlooking: dude REFUSES to read the guides, then asks question about things addressed in the guides. not rocket science why zero respect is given towards
[2015-11-23 12:29:51] floopfloop : rapidtrades: see above
[2015-11-23 12:30:44] rapidtrades : floopfloop: it's a chat room, u don't get to decide what we chat about...u contribute literally 0 to this room...u just troll new users with ''read guide'' and u whine about losing money
[2015-11-23 12:31:07] floopfloop : i help people who arent dbags and have a general concern, you dont fit either of those categories
[2015-11-23 12:31:16] rapidtrades : it's perplexing why ur not banned yet tbh
[2015-11-23 12:31:23] floopfloop : rapidtrades: rofl
[2015-11-23 12:31:34] BitMEX_Wally : I'll ban you both
[2015-11-23 12:31:40] BitMEX_Wally : At come up with something witty
[2015-11-23 12:31:47] BitMEX_Wally : *At least
[2015-11-23 12:32:08] floopfloop : im just stating facts
[2015-11-23 12:32:21] floopfloop : facts aren't always attractive
[2015-11-23 12:33:13] rapidtrades : floopfloop: keep doing what ur doing, eventually ppl will get tired of ur shit
[2015-11-23 12:33:51] floopfloop : rapidtrades: ROFL
[2015-11-23 12:34:49] SnackyCoins : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkb6jex6-80
[2015-11-23 12:36:02] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: lol dude wouldnt stand a chance
[2015-11-23 12:37:34] habibi : imho fees are too high for takers now but it just an opinion. i bet mm are in heaven now. if mm are exchanges ones then its just more money for them from both sides
[2015-11-23 12:37:58] oscartrader : re: the guides, they're helpful and i think quite comprehensive, but still don't cover every question that may arise. reading guides no always answer
[2015-11-23 12:38:31] SnackyCoins : habibi: stop fomoing then
[2015-11-23 12:39:07] SnackyCoins : i mean goddamnit bitmex y u trying to make market stable, shame
[2015-11-23 12:40:24] SnackyCoins : and seriously, show me lower fees on a fiat broker
[2015-11-23 12:40:54] SnackyCoins : this 0% fee clowntown has got to go
[2015-11-23 12:44:08] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: fck bitmex, everyone should just go to okcoin
[2015-11-23 12:44:27] habibi : if only it works it will be a good move, Sam said spread is down to 0.04%, actually spred between 3k walls is 0.16%.
[2015-11-23 12:46:15] SnackyCoins : how about this, you can place a limit order and when its filled you are instantly in profit, that is pretty attractive right
[2015-11-23 12:46:44] SnackyCoins : also if you are playing isolated your mc is that much further away
[2015-11-23 12:50:00] rapidtrades : I wanna short but we're trading too low here
[2015-11-23 12:59:19] rapidtrades : noone wants to hit the bids/asks....this could be a problem
[2015-11-23 13:09:46] podizzler3k_ : it wont be a problem when the price starts to move
[2015-11-23 13:09:55] podizzler3k_ : just a problem when youre trying to build a position during sideways
[2015-11-23 13:10:22] wurstgelee : also if noone hits bids and ask, no trading would happen
[2015-11-23 13:10:29] wurstgelee : this is not the case.
[2015-11-23 13:10:54] podizzler3k_ : so what are the fees now 2-3%?
[2015-11-23 13:11:05] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: when I said that there were no trades for 30 mins
[2015-11-23 13:11:22] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: no 0.075% taker
[2015-11-23 13:12:09] podizzler3k_ : i see
[2015-11-23 13:12:28] podizzler3k_ : i dont trade for less than 10% profit so im not really concerned about that
[2015-11-23 13:12:48] podizzler3k_ : if youre trading for 1% profit that must be rough
[2015-11-23 13:13:20] podizzler3k_ : as far as fees influencing liquidity well i'll leave that to you guys to determine
[2015-11-23 13:22:06] j8 : i'm sure it will take a little while for the market to adapt. but really, the difference of 0.025% is about 8 cents in price, shouldn't stop you from taking from the book
[2015-11-23 13:23:22] rapidtrades : fees are paid on opening and on closing right?
[2015-11-23 13:23:53] j8 : yeah
[2015-11-23 13:23:55] brynsolomon : yes
[2015-11-23 13:24:34] brynsolomon : BitMEX_Wally: anywhere in order history where you can see fees and check if you were maker / taker?
[2015-11-23 13:25:58] rapidtrades : trade history?
[2015-11-23 13:26:31] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2015-11-23 13:26:39] brynsolomon : hmmm yeah still doesn't say if maker/taker
[2015-11-23 13:26:59] rapidtrades : no plus minus?
[2015-11-23 13:27:04] BitMEX_Wally : There is a 'Comm' column which will now be negative if you were a maker
[2015-11-23 13:27:14] rapidtrades : nice...
[2015-11-23 13:27:23] brynsolomon : makes sense. thanks
[2015-11-23 13:27:42] brynsolomon : mine were all 0.00 previously so didn't notice
[2015-11-23 13:28:36] BitMEX_Wally : If you grab the raw data from the API (executions) you will see a lastLiquidityInd column
[2015-11-23 13:29:18] BitMEX_Wally : 'commission' is the % fee and 'execComm' is the cash amount
[2015-11-23 13:45:35] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: i just checked and one of my recent maker executions had zero comm, zero execComm
[2015-11-23 13:47:27] j8 : i have a partial fill and then a fill, both have `AddedLiquidity` but one got the rebate and the other didn't... any idea why?
[2015-11-23 14:05:21] rapidtrades : j8: had partial fill, got rebate on both...not sure if accurate will do the maths later
[2015-11-23 14:06:07] j8 : i have two that were right and one that had zero fee... not maker rebate or taker fee
[2015-11-23 14:06:34] BitMEX_Wally : I'll have a look, I suspect it was a liquidation
[2015-11-23 14:07:02] j8 : "execID": "287231c0-b0de-b1f0-5ad6-03b549d50176"
[2015-11-23 14:07:31] BitMEX_Wally : The rebate to a maker is only paid if the taker paid a fee, and the system account does not pay fees
[2015-11-23 14:08:01] BitMEX_Wally : (the idea being that we do not use the liquidation fund to pay ourselves commissions)
[2015-11-23 14:09:27] j8 : there is an exit commission included in the maintenance margin though, no?
[2015-11-23 14:12:21] j8 : seems hard for market makers if the rebate is not guaranteed. it's as bad as unpredictably overcharging fees
[2015-11-23 14:16:16] j8 : i would think the rebate should still be payed in that case, leaving 0.05% which you don't pay yourself as before
[2015-11-23 14:17:25] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Good point, I will see what I can do
[2015-11-23 14:22:15] rapidtrades : I agree with j8
[2015-11-23 14:40:19] sleger : and settlement fees should also be half maker and half taker
[2015-11-23 14:46:00] j8 : sleger: they are actually, 0.05% as before
[2015-11-23 14:46:21] sleger : yes but that's still twice what they should be
[2015-11-23 14:46:33] sleger : as it is what customers would be able to pay if they were smart
[2015-11-23 14:47:25] j8 : yeah i suppose 0.025% makes sense
[2015-11-23 14:54:33] podizzler3k_ : MEWN
[2015-11-23 14:54:53] podizzler3k_ : 2088 is mewn right? i just cashed out all my btc gonna buy an island
[2015-11-23 15:20:56] irbbqu : Yes that was mewn
[2015-11-23 15:38:53] justinlooking : mun is wednesday 8pm utc
[2015-11-23 16:02:56] rapidtrades : come back down baby!
[2015-11-23 16:03:15] podizzler3k_ : time for next leg up
[2015-11-23 16:03:17] podizzler3k_ : 2150
[2015-11-23 16:03:36] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: why are u always going against me?
[2015-11-23 16:03:49] podizzler3k_ : just seen this on reddit "My friend bought a World Of Warcraft sword for 13000 bitcoins in 2010. You dont even know what feeling down mean"
[2015-11-23 16:04:04] podizzler3k_ : 4 million dollar warcraft sword
[2015-11-23 16:04:13] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: who cares
[2015-11-23 16:04:28] justinlooking : lol nice anecdote
[2015-11-23 16:05:07] rapidtrades : look at all that red @podizzler3k_
[2015-11-23 16:05:24] rapidtrades : like rivers of blood
[2015-11-23 16:05:43] rapidtrades : crushed hopes and dreams....
[2015-11-23 16:06:36] podizzler3k_ : dont cry because you shorted into what soon will be known as the great bitcoin boom of november 23rd
[2015-11-23 16:06:45] rapidtrades : haha :)
[2015-11-23 16:06:57] podizzler3k_ : ill start the wikipedia page now
[2015-11-23 16:07:18] podizzler3k_ : november 23rd the day bitcoin shot to $30,000 in 30 minutes
[2015-11-23 16:07:22] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: that seems a bit premature
[2015-11-23 16:07:34] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: :O
[2015-11-23 16:07:50] podizzler3k_ : look its already up 1cny
[2015-11-23 16:08:12] podizzler3k_ : only 191,000 more cny to go
[2015-11-23 16:08:34] rapidtrades : dam this range is tight
[2015-11-23 16:08:38] podizzler3k_ : alright im goin to lunch to get a hoagie
[2015-11-23 16:08:46] podizzler3k_ : /dinner
[2015-11-23 16:08:59] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: ok I need to take out the trash
[2015-11-23 16:09:11] podizzler3k_ : better bring your phone with alarms set
[2015-11-23 16:09:16] podizzler3k_ : youre gonna want to stop loss fast
[2015-11-23 16:09:41] rapidtrades : justinlooking: we leave the room in ur hands....
[2015-11-23 16:10:19] justinlooking : whoah i don't accept that responsibility
[2015-11-23 16:10:24] justinlooking : whetva happens fappens
[2015-11-23 16:12:52] BitMEX_Wally : j8: I have changed the liquidation logic so now the maker gets paid the rebate.
[2015-11-23 16:13:02] j8 : great
[2015-11-23 16:13:15] BitMEX_Wally : I have amended everyone's executions
[2015-11-23 16:13:29] BitMEX_Wally : So you should now see the rebate on all passive executions
[2015-11-23 16:14:06] j8 : yess i was worried about that 0.0013 XBT
[2015-11-23 16:14:29] BitMEX_Wally : It's the principle that counts :)
[2015-11-23 16:14:35] justinlooking : :)
[2015-11-23 16:14:43] j8 : absolutely
[2015-11-23 16:17:58] podizzler3k_ : wally sam & arthur the best crypto coders since magicaltux bigvern and realsolid!
[2015-11-23 16:18:07] podizzler3k_ : big shoes to fill
[2015-11-23 16:23:59] podizzler3k_ : what u guys think https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-trading-strategies-november-23-2015/
[2015-11-23 16:24:09] podizzler3k_ : 300-330 until new years?! wahhhhhhhhh
[2015-11-23 16:24:37] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: I agree...short as well
[2015-11-23 16:24:57] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: we're very close to rolling over imo
[2015-11-23 16:28:38] rapidtrades : look at that prick with 6x1 contracts
[2015-11-23 16:28:54] rapidtrades : prolly flippper the trolll
[2015-11-23 16:29:07] rapidtrades : now trolling the orderbook
[2015-11-23 16:29:27] BitMEX_Sam : This is why grouping happened :)
[2015-11-23 16:37:08] rapidtrades : euro and commodities getting trounced today
[2015-11-23 16:39:59] Swedishnut : stocks are tumbling this week. I am guessing ends the week below 1950 SP
[2015-11-23 16:42:24] rapidtrades : anything that's not the US Dollar is getting butt fuked
[2015-11-23 16:44:53] rapidtrades : ''I quit my job to be a travel writer and now I'm broke and unemployed''
[2015-11-23 16:45:10] rapidtrades : prolly the best article title this year :)
[2015-11-23 16:46:26] rapidtrades : aaaaand now he's spamming the recent orders tab
[2015-11-23 16:53:44] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: you still here? come irc :)
[2015-11-23 17:13:10] justinlooking : TschavaTschigger: gimme cpl hrs m8 will b on
[2015-11-23 18:48:21] ethexio : Is there a clever way to export P/L , settlement price and fees per day?
[2015-11-23 19:40:50] podizzler3k_ : 1000x leverage plz
[2015-11-23 19:59:41] podizzler3k_ : wow okcoin is literally stuck at 2073.84
[2015-11-23 19:59:46] podizzler3k_ : its hardly moving .1
[2015-11-23 20:04:17] Swedishnut : does it have a crowbar stuck in the chipper?
[2015-11-23 20:05:17] podizzler3k_ : ahah seems that way
[2015-11-23 20:05:20] podizzler3k_ : giant wall at 2074
[2015-11-23 20:06:12] podizzler3k_ : someone needs to market buy about 500btc of fake volume so we can move past this. other wise i might fall asleep at the terminal
[2015-11-23 20:07:06] justinlooking : zzz
[2015-11-23 20:10:20] Swedishnut : shouldn't the markets be crazy moving with all the unusual market motions and loss of value? Or is there some magic hand keeping "Status Quo"??
[2015-11-23 20:11:10] micmix : podizzler3k_: Okcoin ppl are busy spending profits they made on the recent pump & dump. will last a while :-)
[2015-11-23 20:11:59] podizzler3k_ : how am i supposed to get to panama with this lack of volatility
[2015-11-23 20:12:15] justinlooking : i reckon a lot of peeps moved their btc to cold storage when rumours of sactions started flying
[2015-11-23 20:12:48] podizzler3k_ : sanctions?
[2015-11-23 20:12:52] podizzler3k_ : you mean the EU shit
[2015-11-23 20:12:52] Swedishnut : right? someone blow their loads of random perceived direction and force a move?
[2015-11-23 20:13:39] micmix : podizzler3k_: yeah, tough to make anything with 1.06 daily volatility
[2015-11-23 20:14:07] podizzler3k_ : my gf keeps asking when im coming to visit
[2015-11-23 20:14:12] podizzler3k_ : i tell her soon
[2015-11-23 20:14:22] podizzler3k_ : and then this happens
[2015-11-23 20:15:33] micmix : well look at the bright side: it's tough to get rekt as well :-)
[2015-11-23 20:15:41] podizzler3k_ : shes just waiting and waiting http://imgur.com/K3dfMGR and i cant get to panama to see her
[2015-11-23 20:32:42] TschavaTschigger : 7/10 would bang
[2015-11-23 20:36:20] TschavaTschigger : can't believe this girl got Miss Panama, don't find her that pretty
[2015-11-23 20:49:39] jung1 : how green
[2015-11-23 20:49:48] jung1 : we go up more?
[2015-11-23 20:56:31] justinlooking : such flash
[2015-11-23 21:08:35] BitMEX_Sam : wow
[2015-11-23 21:17:21] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: hey Sam we talked about keep-alive recently. Do you know what the timeout is (how long the connection is being kept alive)?
[2015-11-23 21:17:38] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm, should be 60s of inactivity, let me double-check
[2015-11-23 21:17:40] BitMEX_Sam : Are you having issues?
[2015-11-23 21:17:48] TschavaTschigger : No I just wanted to know
[2015-11-23 21:18:19] BitMEX_Sam : Ah. It's 30s
[2015-11-23 21:18:38] TschavaTschigger : Ok thanks a lot
[2015-11-23 21:18:43] BitMEX_Sam : No problem.
[2015-11-23 21:22:14] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: 30 sec? Ok, that explains it. I was wondering why I'm getting 'socket hang up' from public API every 10-15 minutes even though I'm polling every 30 seconds. I was sure keep-alive was 60 sec.
[2015-11-23 21:22:53] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, that's strange that the HTTP lib you're using would even expose that.
[2015-11-23 21:23:19] BitMEX_Sam : Unless you're basically treating the keepalive connection as a single opened stream - but you should have a mechanism for reconnecting regardless.
[2015-11-23 21:25:54] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: It's not a problem, it re-connects when needed. I will poll every 29 sec. to minimize re-connects.
[2015-11-23 21:26:17] BitMEX_Sam : Sounds good. Keep in mind you can reset the timer any time you communicate.
[2015-11-23 21:27:52] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: yep. we're using low level libs to minimize latency, so have to handle some stuff manually
[2015-11-23 21:32:34] TschavaTschigger : why would you use low level libs for millisecond-latencies? it's not like there is a computing bottleneck
[2015-11-23 21:34:22] TschavaTschigger : apart from the fact that the market is super-ineffiecient
[2015-11-23 22:12:32] Swedishnut : snore galore
[2015-11-23 22:46:33] rapidtrades : how are things looking to u guys?
[2015-11-23 22:47:35] thehawthorne : drop soon
[2015-11-23 22:48:37] Swedishnut : waiting for more Black Friday Bitcoin News. Might drive some spenders to try and save through Purse.io or other stuff
[2015-11-23 22:53:12] AudibleScience : I need to get a good mm bot...
[2015-11-23 22:55:16] rapidtrades : AudibleScience: me too
[2015-11-23 22:56:06] rapidtrades : hope the bulls are reading for some butt fucking!
[2015-11-23 22:57:06] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: I thought you were only discretionary
[2015-11-23 22:57:56] rapidtrades : AudibleScience: I am but I mostly use limits to enter/exit
[2015-11-23 23:02:20] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: that's discretionary though see... the mm bot I want to set up is to provide liquidity so that you (and I) can have more opportunities when discretionary... or trading manually...
[2015-11-23 23:03:22] AudibleScience : back in a while....
[2015-11-23 23:06:11] rapidtrades : tempted to add to my shorts...
[2015-11-23 23:07:01] irbbqu : Too late now
[2015-11-23 23:07:34] rapidtrades : irbbqu: nope...this drop has a lot more to go imo
[2015-11-23 23:07:59] irbbqu : I agree, but choppy still + China has some support here
[2015-11-23 23:08:50] rapidtrades : we've traded at discount here all day
[2015-11-23 23:09:13] irbbqu : 7d at premium
[2015-11-23 23:11:57] rapidtrades : irbbqu: that's a nice premium for 3.5 days
[2015-11-23 23:58:03] rapidtrades : anyone here? long short?
[2015-11-24 00:09:53] BitMEX_Sam : markets are real quiet today.
[2015-11-24 00:23:59] micmix : yeah, and 2.5K turnover on XBT24H is very low
[2015-11-24 00:30:25] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. Everyone's way down. Stamp usually does 25-35K &btc; per day and they're sitting at about 5 today
[2015-11-24 00:31:33] ethexio : party's over
[2015-11-24 00:32:49] ethexio : hoob going for center of earth
[2015-11-24 00:35:50] ethexio : buy the dip :|
[2015-11-24 00:36:48] podizzler3k : buy the center of the earth?
[2015-11-24 00:37:15] podizzler3k : investing in liquid hot "mag-ma"
[2015-11-24 00:39:19] jung1 : I bet that we will hit 300 in this year
[2015-11-24 01:19:07] ethexio : Hmm
[2015-11-24 01:38:55] podizzler3k : yes seems like btc getting the slow death atm. sad
[2015-11-24 01:39:09] podizzler3k : at least its not the fast death like usual
[2015-11-24 01:51:20] floopfloop : rip btc
[2015-11-24 01:56:41] rapidtrades : still holding my short...
[2015-11-24 02:01:21] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: u?
[2015-11-24 02:02:18] podizzler3k : [19:37] <podizzler3k> investing in liquid hot "mag-ma"
[2015-11-24 02:03:43] floopfloop : RIP
[2015-11-24 02:06:34] podizzler3k : whalecall alert!
[2015-11-24 02:06:45] podizzler3k : $BTCUSD Quarterly futures has liquidated a long position of 2361 contract at 321.00 #rekt
[2015-11-24 02:06:48] podizzler3k : more to come
[2015-11-24 02:07:08] ethexio : ^
[2015-11-24 02:07:10] podizzler3k : BTCUSD Weekly futures has liquidated a long position of 1103 contract at 314.57 #rekt
[2015-11-24 02:07:45] podizzler3k : wow
[2015-11-24 02:08:17] podizzler3k : hahah they ddos'd okcoin to hide the slaughter
[2015-11-24 02:08:27] podizzler3k : it hit 2018
[2015-11-24 02:08:45] podizzler3k : and then bounced to 2050
[2015-11-24 02:08:47] podizzler3k : wowza
[2015-11-24 02:11:14] floopfloop : podizzler3k: sell the long or keep it?
[2015-11-24 02:12:42] podizzler3k : im on the sidelines
[2015-11-24 02:13:35] podizzler3k : waiting to see what happens here
[2015-11-24 02:13:49] floopfloop : podizzler3k: i bought the dip
[2015-11-24 02:16:32] podizzler3k : little soon dont you think?
[2015-11-24 02:16:49] rapidtrades : ok out
[2015-11-24 02:17:07] rapidtrades : almost $5 on that move
[2015-11-24 02:17:19] podizzler3k : nicely done
[2015-11-24 02:17:24] rapidtrades : with rebates over $5 :)
[2015-11-24 02:17:29] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: tnx man
[2015-11-24 02:17:38] ethexio : Rebates
[2015-11-24 02:17:49] podizzler3k : if they were just trying to get those two whales out then mission accomplished
[2015-11-24 02:17:53] rapidtrades : ethexio: the positive commission I mean
[2015-11-24 02:18:02] habibi : podizzler3k: which ones?
[2015-11-24 02:18:20] podizzler3k : 2361 and 1103 contracts
[2015-11-24 02:18:27] habibi : on okc?
[2015-11-24 02:18:30] podizzler3k : yea
[2015-11-24 02:18:36] ethexio : I know, @rapidtrades . Just the term rebate seems funny in this context
[2015-11-24 02:19:49] podizzler3k : well we cant say the price isnt moving anymore
[2015-11-24 02:22:40] floopfloop : podizzler3k: sold too early *sigh*
[2015-11-24 02:27:50] podizzler3k : better than too late
[2015-11-24 02:28:04] HotDogs : No one ever went broke taking a profit
[2015-11-24 02:28:44] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-24 02:30:00] rapidtrades : so what's next?
[2015-11-24 02:31:43] micmix : still range-bound until 2k CNY is broken for a day or two, just scalp the range
[2015-11-24 02:32:26] micmix : micmix is not a licensed financial advisor. The information presented in this message is an opinion, and is not purported to be fact. Bitcoin is a volatile instrument and can move quickly in any direction. micmix is not responsible for any trading loss incurred by following this advice.
[2015-11-24 02:32:49] rapidtrades : lol
[2015-11-24 02:33:12] rapidtrades : too late, I took ur advice and lost all my monies
[2015-11-24 02:33:47] rapidtrades : *throws lawsuit at at screen
[2015-11-24 02:37:26] lockhedge : micmix: already built a whole company based on your professional advice, and anyway our private arbitration tribunal (see TOS of our website you visited and New York Convention of the UN) will probably not care about these compliance notices ;)
[2015-11-24 02:37:37] podizzler3k : sue micmix his TOS came after the advice
[2015-11-24 02:38:28] rapidtrades : well this isn't much of a recovery is it
[2015-11-24 02:39:38] lockhedge : micmix: the relevant part of the TOS of robotfinance.org: <i> You consent, by using this website, to resolve any future or present disputes with us exculsively via our Verein's arbitration rules. You are not allowed to view this website from countries that are not party to the United Nations Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Arbitral Awards (also commonly known as the New York Convention).</i>
[2015-11-24 02:40:17] rapidtrades : loool
[2015-11-24 02:40:41] rapidtrades : aka ''the fuck you'' clause
[2015-11-24 02:41:27] micmix : lockhedge: you didn't define the term 'use' and my lawyers will show that visiting is not the same as using. always happy to feed the lawyers, poor bastards are starving :-)
[2015-11-24 02:42:44] podizzler3k : 2100 looking further and further away
[2015-11-24 02:42:56] podizzler3k : goodbye sweet 2100, we hardly knew ye
[2015-11-24 02:43:23] floopfloop : podizzler3k: btc will be $350 in an hour
[2015-11-24 02:43:52] podizzler3k : that'd be cool. im trying to get in on some moon action not collecting a bunch of worthless buttcoins
[2015-11-24 02:44:25] floopfloop : I got in on some friday action as well
[2015-11-24 02:44:31] floopfloop : hopefully it pays off
[2015-11-24 02:46:06] lockhedge : micmix: your lawyers will be informed by the elected arbitrator (aka "judge", aka "me") of our Verein's tribunal as soon as we filed a case against you, for sure they can argue about the definition of "using" ;)
[2015-11-24 02:46:24] irbbqu : 7d shortinng op for those who wants
[2015-11-24 02:46:29] irbbqu : @321.63
[2015-11-24 02:46:29] micmix : podizzler3k: Beaver Moon coming Nov. 25, go outside to catch it :-)
[2015-11-24 02:46:51] rapidtrades : irbbqu: @floopfloop you short?
[2015-11-24 02:47:36] floopfloop : rapidtrades: yes I shorted at 316 for 20k contracts
[2015-11-24 02:48:16] floopfloop : because I am just that retarded.
[2015-11-24 02:48:17] rapidtrades : it never traded to 316 u troll
[2015-11-24 02:48:36] habibi : floopfloop: time to close it dont u think ;p?
[2015-11-24 02:49:21] rapidtrades : yeah close ur imaginary short flipper
[2015-11-24 02:49:22] floopfloop : habibi: thats what I tell @rapidtrades mom about her legs
[2015-11-24 02:49:23] micmix : 2015-11-24T02:07:32.769Z BitMEX: filled limit buy order 20.0000 XBT24H @ 315.80 id aa93f72e-1dd9-24ba-9eef-42b30151120f
[2015-11-24 02:50:01] micmix : so yeah, someone sold below 316
[2015-11-24 02:50:07] rapidtrades : weekly yo
[2015-11-24 02:50:13] micmix : ah ok
[2015-11-24 03:04:52] podizzler3k : thats it? just that dump?
[2015-11-24 03:04:57] podizzler3k : thats kinda bullish actually
[2015-11-24 03:06:33] podizzler3k : crucial point here either back down or back to 2080
[2015-11-24 03:06:37] floopfloop : you guys see the book about Bitcoin? http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Fnoqj1veL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
[2015-11-24 03:07:09] floopfloop : http://www.weddingplannernc.com/wp-content/uploads/uploads/2012/04/unnamed.jpg
[2015-11-24 03:14:51] zanza : damn in busted out
[2015-11-24 03:17:30] zanza : j/k
[2015-11-24 03:25:52] rapidtrades : OKAY WHO PRESSED THE SNOOZE BUTTON!
[2015-11-24 03:33:34] zanza : 1 penny spread
[2015-11-24 03:33:57] zanza : are you making money rapidtrades?
[2015-11-24 03:36:40] floopfloop : neg premium
[2015-11-24 03:40:43] rapidtrades : zanza: always :)
[2015-11-24 03:41:10] floopfloop : omg colume
[2015-11-24 03:41:14] floopfloop : volume
[2015-11-24 03:48:56] zanza : has anyone noticed the spread changing ?
[2015-11-24 03:52:23] micmix : zanza: main MM still quoting at ~40c spread
[2015-11-24 03:52:57] micmix : on XBT24H
[2015-11-24 03:55:49] rapidtrades : zanza: not yet but I noticed it's a lot harder to get ur limits filled now
[2015-11-24 03:56:24] rapidtrades : ppl scared of the new fees imo
[2015-11-24 03:57:48] rapidtrades : but it's still too soon to tell..give it a few weeks
[2015-11-24 04:43:08] rapidtrades : WHO FROZE BITCOIN
[2015-11-24 04:58:25] podizzler3k : nice difficulty increase on btc
[2015-11-24 05:00:08] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: how mach
[2015-11-24 05:05:37] podizzler3k : 16%
[2015-11-24 05:06:05] rapidtrades : meh
[2015-11-24 05:07:07] podizzler3k : yeah only the biggest increase in years
[2015-11-24 05:07:21] rapidtrades : like I said, meh
[2015-11-24 05:08:37] podizzler3k : #floopfloopwasright
[2015-11-24 05:08:55] floopfloop : :)
[2015-11-24 05:09:21] floopfloop : you would be hard to find anyone that has observed the mining aspect more than I
[2015-11-24 05:09:50] rapidtrades : floopfloop: mine this *flips you off
[2015-11-24 05:10:27] BitMEX_Arthur : floopfloop: Ok so how do you interpret halving in 8 months or so
[2015-11-24 05:10:45] rapidtrades : srly tho, why does it matter? it's the same number of coins
[2015-11-24 05:10:50] rapidtrades : trading wise I mean
[2015-11-24 05:11:11] BitMEX_Arthur : One argument is that there are less coins miners will be selling
[2015-11-24 05:11:15] BitMEX_Arthur : I don't have a position on this one yet
[2015-11-24 05:11:33] rapidtrades : no I meant re:difficulty
[2015-11-24 05:11:56] floopfloop : BitMEX_Arthur: interpret as to what? price? mining?
[2015-11-24 05:12:14] BitMEX_Arthur : The block halving and the price
[2015-11-24 05:12:40] rapidtrades : the halving is usually preceded by rallies, at least on altcoins
[2015-11-24 05:13:04] floopfloop : well, historically the price goes up. But that is pretty obvious
[2015-11-24 05:13:06] rapidtrades : bitcoin is more advanced market tho so I dunno how much is already priced in
[2015-11-24 05:13:25] floopfloop : i think the implications for mining are more interesting though
[2015-11-24 05:14:17] rapidtrades : floopfloop: so what are those implications
[2015-11-24 05:14:36] AudibleScience : I fear the halving myself...
[2015-11-24 05:16:44] rapidtrades : dam it's so hard to go long this market...even though seems like that's where we're going next
[2015-11-24 05:22:08] AudibleScience : what if the halving only has a moderate effect on the perceived value of the coin?
[2015-11-24 05:22:50] podizzler3k : my prediction is a big pump leading up to halving and giant dump when it halves
[2015-11-24 05:22:59] podizzler3k : seen it on every altcoin so far
[2015-11-24 05:23:05] podizzler3k : no reason to think btc will be any different
[2015-11-24 05:23:36] AudibleScience : podizzler3k: are you a miner?
[2015-11-24 05:23:51] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: well the reason is we have hundreds of millions traded in bitcoin every day
[2015-11-24 05:24:17] rapidtrades : that's a ton of money to be had here so u can expect things will not be so cut and dry
[2015-11-24 05:24:56] podizzler3k : audiblescience i have mined with gpus and gridseeds in the past yes
[2015-11-24 05:25:00] podizzler3k : also rented a lot of hash