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[2015-11-23 07:42:23] ethexio : or are you calling me a bear?
[2015-11-23 07:42:58] rapidtrades : ethexio: I couldn't think of anything that doesn't involve rape, or having sex with smone's mother
[2015-11-23 07:43:03] rapidtrades : so I decided to pass
[2015-11-23 07:43:17] ethexio : good call
[2015-11-23 07:43:18] rapidtrades : feeling classy today /
[2015-11-23 07:48:51] rapidtrades : oil getting butt fucked
[2015-11-23 07:49:05] rapidtrades : but sex
[2015-11-23 08:01:24] ethexio : fücked
[2015-11-23 08:01:38] ethexio : testing...
[2015-11-23 08:03:10] floopfloop : ethexio: nice
[2015-11-23 08:03:33] rapidtrades : deliberately evading censorship is a TOS violation
[2015-11-23 08:03:42] ethexio : I͈̋ͮ̿̆ ̳̥̰̭̰͍͌ͬ͌͐̒̃l̲̯̪̾͌̉͊̉o̷͎̰̣ͥ̓͌ͫv̥̹͋̏͜e̖̼ͮ ̸̰̓ͫ̇͐̏̽ṭ̢̓̐̏̔͑̐h͎̭͙̠͖͌̐͂̾̾͑ͫe̲͈͌̓̑̚ ͋҉B̫̤͎̩̯͚̻ͯͮi҉̜tͦ̐ͯ̽́ͤ̽M̨̳ͥͥ̓͋̈́E̝͖X̔ͪ͝ ̵̲͓͉̑̐s̗̮t̝̭̮͖̥̜̘́͆ͣ̏̊ͣ̌a̛͕̲̥͕̹̬̎̾̑̚ͅf̶͕̦̪̹͔͕̀̾ͮ͑͂ͭ̚ͅf͖͕̞͕̻̠̄͑
[2015-11-23 08:03:55] ethexio : sorry
[2015-11-23 08:04:12] rapidtrades : I'm kidding :)
[2015-11-23 08:04:26] ethexio : I didn't know censorship evasion was a TOS condition.
[2015-11-23 08:06:02] ethexio : When movement boring, we have to create things to keep us occupied.
[2015-11-23 08:06:22] ethexio : Or go to sleep.
[2015-11-23 08:07:52] rapidtrades : I've had no trades today
[2015-11-23 08:08:20] rapidtrades : one tp got hit but no new trades...slow and hard to get fills
[2015-11-23 08:12:36] rapidtrades : the settlement fees will stay the same after today? 0.05?
[2015-11-23 08:17:13] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: yes
[2015-11-23 08:17:21] BitMEX_Arthur : 0.05%
[2015-11-23 08:17:21] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: tnx
[2015-11-23 08:20:27] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: what happens with affiliate commissions when the user you referred gets maker rebates?
[2015-11-23 08:20:43] TschavaTschigger : lol I wanted to ask the same thing, was already typing
[2015-11-23 08:20:51] micmix : do you get a portion of the rebate?
[2015-11-23 08:21:19] BitMEX_Arthur : micmix: No you don't
[2015-11-23 08:21:29] BitMEX_Arthur : You get a portion of fees paid by takers only
[2015-11-23 08:21:39] micmix : ok, thanks!
[2015-11-23 08:22:07] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: and a portion of settlement fee, right?
[2015-11-23 08:22:23] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2015-11-23 08:22:30] micmix : ok, good
[2015-11-23 08:22:45] ethexio : 10%
[2015-11-23 08:23:00] BitMEX_Wally : 10% at first, can go up to 20%
[2015-11-23 08:23:43] micmix : @BitMEX_Wally: it goes up to 50% according to https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2015-11-23 08:23:58] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry that is stale, Arthur is updating it now
[2015-11-23 08:24:17] micmix : oh, I was looking forward to 50% :-)
[2015-11-23 08:24:32] BitMEX_Wally : Hah that table was created back when the highest leverage was 5x
[2015-11-23 08:25:44] rapidtrades : I don't see any trades....anyone?
[2015-11-23 08:26:23] podizzler3k : are you biased? take a look at the inverse chart and see if you feel the same way https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ti2Ypj5J/
[2015-11-23 08:27:20] floopfloop : podizzler3k: what is that?
[2015-11-23 08:27:47] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: I was so close to getting 15% affiliate commissions
[2015-11-23 08:27:56] ethexio : Inverted chart
[2015-11-23 08:28:15] podizzler3k : yes
[2015-11-23 08:28:52] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: I guess you are going to increase the volume requirements
[2015-11-23 08:29:14] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: looks bearish
[2015-11-23 08:29:16] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: No, we're leaving the 10, 15% and 20% requirements
[2015-11-23 08:29:18] BitMEX_Wally : Just capping it at 20%
[2015-11-23 08:29:32] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: ah good
[2015-11-23 08:29:41] podizzler3k : rapidtrades interesting
[2015-11-23 08:30:19] ethexio : we're in an inverted bear stage
[2015-11-23 08:30:50] ethexio : upside-down bears tend to get grumpy
[2015-11-23 08:31:59] podizzler3k : no china premium means mining pool dumps win in the long term. but maybe okcoin and huobi want to burn some shorts first, and set up some bulls for the slaughter
[2015-11-23 08:55:01] TraderStefan : Any plans for BitMEX to add a FIX api?
[2015-11-23 08:59:05] BitMEX_Arthur : In the future yes, but not in the near term
[2015-11-23 08:59:21] BitMEX_Arthur : Not enough demand
[2015-11-23 09:01:56] TraderStefan : ok thanks. It can be hard to deal with for most people. I really like OKCoin's implementation though. Very fast
[2015-11-23 09:05:38] rapidtrades : what api does bitmex use
[2015-11-23 09:05:47] rapidtrades : GUYS
[2015-11-23 09:06:13] rapidtrades : <blink> NOTHING IS HAPPENING
[2015-11-23 09:06:52] TraderStefan : BitMEX has REST and Websocket
[2015-11-23 09:08:47] rapidtrades : TraderStefan: and what language to I need to learn to program with those thinggies
[2015-11-23 09:10:11] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiOverview
[2015-11-23 09:10:26] BitMEX_Wally : We offer Sample API Connectors
[2015-11-23 09:13:38] rapidtrades : sounds fancy...what does it mean
[2015-11-23 09:23:29] SnackyCoins : rapidtrades: you can connect to an api with any language you want 8)
[2015-11-23 09:23:54] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: so English cool?
[2015-11-23 09:24:21] SnackyCoins : sure, but you might have a difficult time making http calls
[2015-11-23 09:24:53] rapidtrades : <blink> COMPUTER MAKE ME $1,000,000,000,000 , GRACIAS
[2015-11-23 09:25:18] SnackyCoins : and then it comes to life and attempts to turn you into a big stack of cash
[2015-11-23 09:25:30] SnackyCoins : because computers take things literally
[2015-11-23 09:25:35] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: :P
[2015-11-23 09:25:52] rapidtrades : that's a good plot for a shitty movie
[2015-11-23 09:26:55] SnackyCoins : How many bitcoin traders does it take to ATTENTION USERS WE HAVE BEEN HACKED AND ALL THE LIGHTBULBS ARE GONE
[2015-11-23 09:27:49] rapidtrades : <blink> COMPUTER MAKE ME A FRAPPUCCINO
[2015-11-23 09:29:19] rapidtrades : dam nothing stopping this Euro selloff lol
[2015-11-23 09:34:28] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Don't forget to close the tag with `< / blink >`
[2015-11-23 09:34:36] BitMEX_Wally : (minus the spaces)
[2015-11-23 09:35:03] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: <blink>Bitmex is Malware, uninstall immediately</blink>
[2015-11-23 09:35:58] floopfloop : omg rofl
[2015-11-23 09:36:21] BitMEX_Arthur : The Force is strong in this one
[2015-11-23 09:36:22] floopfloop : +1 for Wally for admin of the year
[2015-11-23 09:36:27] floopfloop : has my vote
[2015-11-23 09:37:17] zanza : that pic gunna be the24H when - fees hit
[2015-11-23 09:38:45] rapidtrades : zanza: it will be fun..can't wait to see the changes in behavior
[2015-11-23 09:39:27] zanza : hope it doesn
[2015-11-23 09:39:37] zanza : doesn't scare any takers, we will see
[2015-11-23 09:40:00] BitMEX_Wally : zanza: The spread will be tighter so they won't mind
[2015-11-23 09:40:38] zanza : yeah likely
[2015-11-23 09:40:51] zanza : so miratrader switched to 16 orders now
[2015-11-23 09:41:07] rapidtrades : hope we wont see 1 cent spreads like on some Chinese sites...that was blow major balls
[2015-11-23 09:41:41] zanza : that would be great
[2015-11-23 09:41:48] rapidtrades : zanza: not for me
[2015-11-23 09:42:09] zanza : oh your strategy relies on big disparity
[2015-11-23 09:42:46] BitMEX_Wally : If the spread was 1 cent you'd still get 2.5 bps on both sides market making, i.e. 5 bps in total
[2015-11-23 09:43:19] zanza : true dat
[2015-11-23 09:43:42] rapidtrades : but in order to get executed you'll have to hit the current bid/ask....so u pay that 7.5 bps fee
[2015-11-23 09:45:02] BitMEX_Wally : I'd pay 7.5 bps to get done with no spread :)
[2015-11-23 09:45:39] BitMEX_Wally : We'll see how it goes, I think people want liquidity more than anything, and this will boost liquidity
[2015-11-23 09:45:42] floopfloop : what is bps?
[2015-11-23 09:45:50] BitMEX_Wally : bps = basis point, i.e. 0.01%
[2015-11-23 09:45:53] BitMEX_Wally : So 5 bps = 0.05%
[2015-11-23 09:45:57] floopfloop : kk
[2015-11-23 09:46:09] floopfloop : is that on the value or margin? @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-23 09:46:11] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: yeah its a good change overall I think just wondering how it will impact me personally
[2015-11-23 09:46:30] BitMEX_Wally : Fees are on the gross value
[2015-11-23 09:46:30] zanza : adapt or go extinct :)
[2015-11-23 09:46:51] rapidtrades : prolly it would've been better to keep the taker at 0.05% since %0.75 is almost double the industry standard on futures
[2015-11-23 09:47:04] rapidtrades : sorry meant 0.075
[2015-11-23 09:47:27] BitMEX_Wally : There isn't an industry standard for 100x leveraged futures
[2015-11-23 09:47:40] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: ok :)
[2015-11-23 09:48:12] BitMEX_Wally : We are also working on a way to let people withdraw or re-leverage their realised PNL without having to wait until settlement/rebalance
[2015-11-23 09:48:59] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: I have some locked funds from 25mar...will these release on Friday?
[2015-11-23 09:49:17] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2015-11-23 09:49:44] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: I can trade em just can't withdraw?
[2015-11-23 09:50:12] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: At the moment 'withheld profit' cannot be withdrawn or traded
[2015-11-23 09:50:28] BitMEX_Wally : The idea being that it may be subject to DPE
[2015-11-23 09:50:45] BitMEX_Wally : But we're very good at keeping the DPE rate at 0% so it makes sense to let people have some of their hard earnt profit
[2015-11-23 09:51:41] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: ah okay...at other futures u can trade with the profits
[2015-11-23 09:52:28] zanza : no clawbakc here tho
[2015-11-23 09:52:34] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, but unfortunately if there is a socialised loss then you get liquidated to pay for it...
[2015-11-23 09:54:04] BitMEX_Wally : I'm still working on the details, and we will announce more later. The basic idea is that we will allow you to withdraw or re-leverage a percentage of your realisedPnl
[2015-11-23 09:54:56] BitMEX_Wally : Your PNL is still subject to DPE as usual (to keep it fair) but you basically get a 'cash advance' against it
[2015-11-23 09:55:17] zanza : this is the best trading site imo, only reason people dont use it as much since they donl't nkow about it I think
[2015-11-23 09:55:29] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: okay...being able to trade with it would be good. I'm still testing bitmex but I already see how this can be a drag on trading
[2015-11-23 09:55:40] zanza : this react.js is very sexy
[2015-11-23 09:55:45] BitMEX_Wally : zanza: We have a generous affiliate program :)
[2015-11-23 09:56:35] zanza : ill up my shliling efforst :)
[2015-11-23 09:56:45] zanza : laptop cant type
[2015-11-23 09:57:04] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: I did some market making on the illiquid products and not having the profits available would restrict my options until the Friday settlement
[2015-11-23 09:57:23] zanza : true
[2015-11-23 09:59:13] zanza : but having 100x leverage makes up for that
[2015-11-23 09:59:56] zanza : rapidtrades: if you read the contract you would know that!
[2015-11-23 10:00:13] rapidtrades : it's only 25x on those contracts
[2015-11-23 10:01:14] floopfloop : zanza: dude doesn't know how to read, which is why its so annoying, AKA forest gump
[2015-11-23 10:03:32] rapidtrades : floopfloop: don't u have somewhere to go? Like a job or smth
[2015-11-23 10:03:38] zanza : i never (purposely) run that close to using up margin
[2015-11-23 10:05:21] floopfloop : rapidtrades: don't you have something to read?
[2015-11-23 10:05:32] rapidtrades : floopfloop: nope
[2015-11-23 10:05:39] rapidtrades : reading is bad for your eyes
[2015-11-23 10:06:36] rapidtrades : okcoin really needs to stop using limit orders for execution..its the dumbest thing ever
[2015-11-23 10:06:50] rapidtrades : I meant for liquidation
[2015-11-23 10:07:13] rapidtrades : that stupid rule prolly causes all the clawbacks
[2015-11-23 10:10:15] jung1 : c'mon bitcoin
[2015-11-23 10:10:19] jung1 : do something funny
[2015-11-23 10:11:32] TschavaTschigger : that 5k wall-bot is new isn't it?
[2015-11-23 10:12:04] rapidtrades : yes
[2015-11-23 10:12:15] rapidtrades : i think its the former 17 bot
[2015-11-23 10:12:45] zanza : nah, 17 bot got demoted to 16 bot
[2015-11-23 10:13:06] TschavaTschigger : maybe 17 was too risky for testing so he tuned down to 16
[2015-11-23 10:13:13] zanza : TschavaTschigger: rofl
[2015-11-23 10:21:21] jung1 : http://i.imgur.com/hZNqvoK.png
[2015-11-23 10:21:28] jung1 : another hashrate ath
[2015-11-23 10:21:38] jung1 : same was befor 1k pump in '13
[2015-11-23 10:25:49] TschavaTschigger : another ath was 10 days ago where nothing happened
[2015-11-23 10:26:11] TschavaTschigger : or mid-sep 15
[2015-11-23 10:28:36] floopfloop : jung1: hashrate has very small relativity to price
[2015-11-23 10:55:33] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: when I send rest requests with keepalive in header, how long does it keep connection alive?
[2015-11-23 11:04:48] BitMEX_Wally : TschavaTschigger: I am not sure of the timeout
[2015-11-23 11:06:36] rapidtrades : dam I'm glad I didn't short this market
[2015-11-23 11:13:28] rapidtrades : ok I'll be back post-settlement, take care homies
[2015-11-23 11:59:11] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: do I need to re-login for the changes to apply or
[2015-11-23 11:59:31] BitMEX_Wally : Which changes?
[2015-11-23 11:59:36] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: fees
[2015-11-23 11:59:48] BitMEX_Wally : Nope, they'll be applied to everyone after settlement
[2015-11-23 11:59:58] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: cool tnx
[2015-11-23 12:00:07] SnackyCoins : ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
[2015-11-23 12:00:38] rapidtrades : god dam
[2015-11-23 12:00:40] SnackyCoins : lol someone bought it
[2015-11-23 12:01:19] rapidtrades : here we go b1tches
[2015-11-23 12:02:23] SnackyCoins : oooo neutral overlay is blue
[2015-11-23 12:03:05] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: what
[2015-11-23 12:03:12] BitMEX_Wally : New fees are live
[2015-11-23 12:03:26] SnackyCoins : on the chart if you are neither up or down, the overlay color is blue instead of r/g
[2015-11-23 12:03:44] SnackyCoins : also lifetime affiliate earnings are on :) let the shilling begin
[2015-11-23 12:03:45] rapidtrades : huh
[2015-11-23 12:07:33] oscartrader : those new fees are so much more expensive!
[2015-11-23 12:07:54] SnackyCoins : try a fiat broker
[2015-11-23 12:08:06] BitMEX_Wally : oscartrader: The `XBT24H` spread is now 0.04%
[2015-11-23 12:08:13] BitMEX_Wally : It was 0.18% earlier
[2015-11-23 12:08:39] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: plz dont worry about the dumbasses
[2015-11-23 12:08:48] oscartrader : good point - maybe healthy for the exchange. just sucks running contract to expiration
[2015-11-23 12:09:02] SnackyCoins : fiat brokers are like $10 to open then another $10 to close, so that's $20/trade, how many trades did you make today
[2015-11-23 12:09:10] rapidtrades : oscartrader: those fees are the same afaik
[2015-11-23 12:09:14] SnackyCoins : and that is a "good price"
[2015-11-23 12:09:15] rapidtrades : 0.0%
[2015-11-23 12:09:21] rapidtrades : sorry 0.05%
[2015-11-23 12:09:27] SnackyCoins : makers now geting reimbursed 8) daddy like
[2015-11-23 12:09:28] habibi : SnackyCoins: thats not even close to truth
[2015-11-23 12:09:35] BitMEX_Wally : Yes the settlement fee has not changed
[2015-11-23 12:09:40] SnackyCoins : uhh what
[2015-11-23 12:09:43] floopfloop : anyone got a better option?
[2015-11-23 12:09:48] oscartrader : aaahhh ok what's settlement fee? i thought it was taker
[2015-11-23 12:09:52] SnackyCoins : habibi show me where you get less than $10 trades
[2015-11-23 12:09:53] floopfloop : if not pleasr srfu
[2015-11-23 12:10:00] floopfloop : stfu*
[2015-11-23 12:10:09] oscartrader : if settlement fee unchanged then is a good decision
[2015-11-23 12:10:13] BitMEX_Wally : oscartrader: Yes it was the taker, but we have left it at 0.05%
[2015-11-23 12:10:16] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-11-23 12:10:21] floopfloop : please* wow macs suck
[2015-11-23 12:10:34] oscartrader : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2015-11-23 12:10:44] rapidtrades : floopfloop: depends how u trade, if u use market orders fees here are now 2.5 times above market rates
[2015-11-23 12:11:09] rapidtrades : I use mostly limits so this may work for me, depending on the competition
[2015-11-23 12:11:25] floopfloop : rapidtrades: and your argument is?
[2015-11-23 12:11:55] floopfloop : rapidtrades: any of those exchanges have good security
[2015-11-23 12:12:28] rapidtrades : floopfloop: u asked for better option...it all depends on ur trading style
[2015-11-23 12:12:41] floopfloop : rapidtrades: weak ass answer
[2015-11-23 12:13:23] floopfloop : doesnt surprise me though coming from the source
[2015-11-23 12:13:29] oscartrader : how long for 'Closed Positions' data to populate? i had contract on last expiry but not there
[2015-11-23 12:14:08] floopfloop : oscartrader: have you read the guides for contract? pretty clear
[2015-11-23 12:14:48] rapidtrades : floopfloop: if u don't know the answers, why do u even bother to reply?
[2015-11-23 12:15:20] floopfloop : rapidtrades: its all in the guides, if you can't read why do you ask
[2015-11-23 12:15:57] oscartrader : floopfloop: i have read the contract spec - can't see any info re: record populating in 'Closed Positions' tab
[2015-11-23 12:16:05] rapidtrades : floopfloop: u know you might be a better traders if u didn't get so emotional about everything
[2015-11-23 12:16:19] floopfloop : oscartrader: which?
[2015-11-23 12:16:58] rapidtrades : oscartrader: he doesn't know anything...that's just his go-to-answer
[2015-11-23 12:17:02] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you might be a better trader if you learned how to read and stop annoying everyone on the exchange
[2015-11-23 12:17:16] floopfloop : rapidtrades: then read the fcking guides
[2015-11-23 12:17:26] rapidtrades : floopfloop: they only person that seems annoyed is u, buddy
[2015-11-23 12:17:45] floopfloop : rapidtrades: lies, the whole exchange is few up with you
[2015-11-23 12:17:54] rapidtrades : floopfloop: prove it
[2015-11-23 12:18:03] floopfloop : rapidtrades: watch chat lol
[2015-11-23 12:18:16] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you are obv. 13
[2015-11-23 12:18:17] rapidtrades : <blink> EVERYONE WANTS TO SPEAK UP FEEL FREE TO DO SO
[2015-11-23 12:18:27] wurstgelee : !
[2015-11-23 12:18:28] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-23 12:18:30] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-23 12:18:50] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you are immature to the max
[2015-11-23 12:19:08] oscartrader : is there a help forum for bitmex? want to ask a number of questions - don't feel they'll get answered here with everyone talking shit
[2015-11-23 12:19:17] floopfloop : rapidtrades: "your mom" jokes even suck. negative credibility for sure
[2015-11-23 12:19:30] floopfloop : oscartrader: references?
[2015-11-23 12:19:41] rapidtrades : can we have a user ignore option?
[2015-11-23 12:19:57] floopfloop : rapidtrades: yes this guy should be banned
[2015-11-23 12:20:32] DaRealG : yes i'd like to know about a help foru m also
[2015-11-23 12:20:47] floopfloop : DaRealG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckY-LmBItUc
[2015-11-23 12:20:52] floopfloop : fuck wrong lin
[2015-11-23 12:21:01] rapidtrades : DaRealG: don't need a forum just scroll up and message users that start with BITMEX
[2015-11-23 12:21:20] floopfloop : DaRealG: look in references section
[2015-11-23 12:22:03] DaRealG : rapidtrades: ty
[2015-11-23 12:22:08] floopfloop : dont listen to @rapidtrades , he is the local idiot
[2015-11-23 12:23:12] floopfloop : read shit, stop asking stupid questions, otherwise whole community will look at you like rapidtrades which is not a good thing
[2015-11-23 12:23:31] floopfloop : literally the butt end of a bitmex joike
[2015-11-23 12:23:46] rapidtrades : floopfloop: you sure u want to continue?
[2015-11-23 12:24:01] oscartrader : BitMEX_Wally: hi wally. new here. i traded the recently expired XBT24H contract. is there somewhere i can view settlement PnL / when is the data available? 'order history' only has entry and not in 'closed positions'
[2015-11-23 12:24:04] floopfloop : questions extended from the guides are always welcome @DaRealG
[2015-11-23 12:24:27] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you dont have the balls
[2015-11-23 12:24:41] BitMEX_Wally : oscartrader: After settlement the PNL hits your wallet as a CashSettlement transaction, you can see it here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2015-11-23 12:26:48] rapidtrades : floopfloop: u need to cool off bud
[2015-11-23 12:27:03] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you need to learn how to read
[2015-11-23 12:27:21] oscartrader : BitMEX_Wally: thnks
[2015-11-23 12:28:08] floopfloop : rapidtrades: if the human body is 75% water why are you 100% salty?
[2015-11-23 12:28:09] justinlooking : rapidtrades: every trollbox needs a floopfloop, even if he is a dick to everyone
[2015-11-23 12:28:21] floopfloop : justinlooking: :) and not everyone
[2015-11-23 12:29:38] rapidtrades : floopfloop: yeah everyone who asks questions so basically all new users here
[2015-11-23 12:29:41] floopfloop : justinlooking: dude REFUSES to read the guides, then asks question about things addressed in the guides. not rocket science why zero respect is given towards
[2015-11-23 12:29:51] floopfloop : rapidtrades: see above
[2015-11-23 12:30:44] rapidtrades : floopfloop: it's a chat room, u don't get to decide what we chat about...u contribute literally 0 to this room...u just troll new users with ''read guide'' and u whine about losing money
[2015-11-23 12:31:07] floopfloop : i help people who arent dbags and have a general concern, you dont fit either of those categories
[2015-11-23 12:31:16] rapidtrades : it's perplexing why ur not banned yet tbh
[2015-11-23 12:31:23] floopfloop : rapidtrades: rofl
[2015-11-23 12:31:34] BitMEX_Wally : I'll ban you both
[2015-11-23 12:31:40] BitMEX_Wally : At come up with something witty
[2015-11-23 12:31:47] BitMEX_Wally : *At least
[2015-11-23 12:32:08] floopfloop : im just stating facts
[2015-11-23 12:32:21] floopfloop : facts aren't always attractive
[2015-11-23 12:33:13] rapidtrades : floopfloop: keep doing what ur doing, eventually ppl will get tired of ur shit
[2015-11-23 12:33:51] floopfloop : rapidtrades: ROFL
[2015-11-23 12:34:49] SnackyCoins : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkb6jex6-80
[2015-11-23 12:36:02] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: lol dude wouldnt stand a chance
[2015-11-23 12:37:34] habibi : imho fees are too high for takers now but it just an opinion. i bet mm are in heaven now. if mm are exchanges ones then its just more money for them from both sides
[2015-11-23 12:37:58] oscartrader : re: the guides, they're helpful and i think quite comprehensive, but still don't cover every question that may arise. reading guides no always answer
[2015-11-23 12:38:31] SnackyCoins : habibi: stop fomoing then
[2015-11-23 12:39:07] SnackyCoins : i mean goddamnit bitmex y u trying to make market stable, shame
[2015-11-23 12:40:24] SnackyCoins : and seriously, show me lower fees on a fiat broker
[2015-11-23 12:40:54] SnackyCoins : this 0% fee clowntown has got to go
[2015-11-23 12:44:08] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: fck bitmex, everyone should just go to okcoin
[2015-11-23 12:44:27] habibi : if only it works it will be a good move, Sam said spread is down to 0.04%, actually spred between 3k walls is 0.16%.
[2015-11-23 12:46:15] SnackyCoins : how about this, you can place a limit order and when its filled you are instantly in profit, that is pretty attractive right
[2015-11-23 12:46:44] SnackyCoins : also if you are playing isolated your mc is that much further away
[2015-11-23 12:50:00] rapidtrades : I wanna short but we're trading too low here
[2015-11-23 12:59:19] rapidtrades : noone wants to hit the bids/asks....this could be a problem
[2015-11-23 13:09:46] podizzler3k_ : it wont be a problem when the price starts to move
[2015-11-23 13:09:55] podizzler3k_ : just a problem when youre trying to build a position during sideways
[2015-11-23 13:10:22] wurstgelee : also if noone hits bids and ask, no trading would happen
[2015-11-23 13:10:29] wurstgelee : this is not the case.
[2015-11-23 13:10:54] podizzler3k_ : so what are the fees now 2-3%?
[2015-11-23 13:11:05] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: when I said that there were no trades for 30 mins
[2015-11-23 13:11:22] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: no 0.075% taker
[2015-11-23 13:12:09] podizzler3k_ : i see
[2015-11-23 13:12:28] podizzler3k_ : i dont trade for less than 10% profit so im not really concerned about that
[2015-11-23 13:12:48] podizzler3k_ : if youre trading for 1% profit that must be rough
[2015-11-23 13:13:20] podizzler3k_ : as far as fees influencing liquidity well i'll leave that to you guys to determine
[2015-11-23 13:22:06] j8 : i'm sure it will take a little while for the market to adapt. but really, the difference of 0.025% is about 8 cents in price, shouldn't stop you from taking from the book
[2015-11-23 13:23:22] rapidtrades : fees are paid on opening and on closing right?
[2015-11-23 13:23:53] j8 : yeah
[2015-11-23 13:23:55] brynsolomon : yes
[2015-11-23 13:24:34] brynsolomon : BitMEX_Wally: anywhere in order history where you can see fees and check if you were maker / taker?
[2015-11-23 13:25:58] rapidtrades : trade history?
[2015-11-23 13:26:31] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2015-11-23 13:26:39] brynsolomon : hmmm yeah still doesn't say if maker/taker
[2015-11-23 13:26:59] rapidtrades : no plus minus?
[2015-11-23 13:27:04] BitMEX_Wally : There is a 'Comm' column which will now be negative if you were a maker
[2015-11-23 13:27:14] rapidtrades : nice...
[2015-11-23 13:27:23] brynsolomon : makes sense. thanks
[2015-11-23 13:27:42] brynsolomon : mine were all 0.00 previously so didn't notice
[2015-11-23 13:28:36] BitMEX_Wally : If you grab the raw data from the API (executions) you will see a lastLiquidityInd column
[2015-11-23 13:29:18] BitMEX_Wally : 'commission' is the % fee and 'execComm' is the cash amount
[2015-11-23 13:45:35] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: i just checked and one of my recent maker executions had zero comm, zero execComm
[2015-11-23 13:47:27] j8 : i have a partial fill and then a fill, both have `AddedLiquidity` but one got the rebate and the other didn't... any idea why?
[2015-11-23 14:05:21] rapidtrades : j8: had partial fill, got rebate on both...not sure if accurate will do the maths later
[2015-11-23 14:06:07] j8 : i have two that were right and one that had zero fee... not maker rebate or taker fee
[2015-11-23 14:06:34] BitMEX_Wally : I'll have a look, I suspect it was a liquidation
[2015-11-23 14:07:02] j8 : "execID": "287231c0-b0de-b1f0-5ad6-03b549d50176"
[2015-11-23 14:07:31] BitMEX_Wally : The rebate to a maker is only paid if the taker paid a fee, and the system account does not pay fees
[2015-11-23 14:08:01] BitMEX_Wally : (the idea being that we do not use the liquidation fund to pay ourselves commissions)
[2015-11-23 14:09:27] j8 : there is an exit commission included in the maintenance margin though, no?
[2015-11-23 14:12:21] j8 : seems hard for market makers if the rebate is not guaranteed. it's as bad as unpredictably overcharging fees
[2015-11-23 14:16:16] j8 : i would think the rebate should still be payed in that case, leaving 0.05% which you don't pay yourself as before
[2015-11-23 14:17:25] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Good point, I will see what I can do
[2015-11-23 14:22:15] rapidtrades : I agree with j8
[2015-11-23 14:40:19] sleger : and settlement fees should also be half maker and half taker
[2015-11-23 14:46:00] j8 : sleger: they are actually, 0.05% as before
[2015-11-23 14:46:21] sleger : yes but that's still twice what they should be
[2015-11-23 14:46:33] sleger : as it is what customers would be able to pay if they were smart
[2015-11-23 14:47:25] j8 : yeah i suppose 0.025% makes sense
[2015-11-23 14:54:33] podizzler3k_ : MEWN
[2015-11-23 14:54:53] podizzler3k_ : 2088 is mewn right? i just cashed out all my btc gonna buy an island
[2015-11-23 15:20:56] irbbqu : Yes that was mewn
[2015-11-23 15:38:53] justinlooking : mun is wednesday 8pm utc
[2015-11-23 16:02:56] rapidtrades : come back down baby!
[2015-11-23 16:03:15] podizzler3k_ : time for next leg up
[2015-11-23 16:03:17] podizzler3k_ : 2150
[2015-11-23 16:03:36] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: why are u always going against me?
[2015-11-23 16:03:49] podizzler3k_ : just seen this on reddit "My friend bought a World Of Warcraft sword for 13000 bitcoins in 2010. You dont even know what feeling down mean"
[2015-11-23 16:04:04] podizzler3k_ : 4 million dollar warcraft sword
[2015-11-23 16:04:13] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: who cares
[2015-11-23 16:04:28] justinlooking : lol nice anecdote
[2015-11-23 16:05:07] rapidtrades : look at all that red @podizzler3k_
[2015-11-23 16:05:24] rapidtrades : like rivers of blood
[2015-11-23 16:05:43] rapidtrades : crushed hopes and dreams....
[2015-11-23 16:06:36] podizzler3k_ : dont cry because you shorted into what soon will be known as the great bitcoin boom of november 23rd
[2015-11-23 16:06:45] rapidtrades : haha :)
[2015-11-23 16:06:57] podizzler3k_ : ill start the wikipedia page now
[2015-11-23 16:07:18] podizzler3k_ : november 23rd the day bitcoin shot to $30,000 in 30 minutes
[2015-11-23 16:07:22] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: that seems a bit premature
[2015-11-23 16:07:34] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: :O
[2015-11-23 16:07:50] podizzler3k_ : look its already up 1cny
[2015-11-23 16:08:12] podizzler3k_ : only 191,000 more cny to go
[2015-11-23 16:08:34] rapidtrades : dam this range is tight
[2015-11-23 16:08:38] podizzler3k_ : alright im goin to lunch to get a hoagie
[2015-11-23 16:08:46] podizzler3k_ : /dinner
[2015-11-23 16:08:59] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: ok I need to take out the trash
[2015-11-23 16:09:11] podizzler3k_ : better bring your phone with alarms set
[2015-11-23 16:09:16] podizzler3k_ : youre gonna want to stop loss fast
[2015-11-23 16:09:41] rapidtrades : justinlooking: we leave the room in ur hands....
[2015-11-23 16:10:19] justinlooking : whoah i don't accept that responsibility
[2015-11-23 16:10:24] justinlooking : whetva happens fappens
[2015-11-23 16:12:52] BitMEX_Wally : j8: I have changed the liquidation logic so now the maker gets paid the rebate.
[2015-11-23 16:13:02] j8 : great
[2015-11-23 16:13:15] BitMEX_Wally : I have amended everyone's executions
[2015-11-23 16:13:29] BitMEX_Wally : So you should now see the rebate on all passive executions
[2015-11-23 16:14:06] j8 : yess i was worried about that 0.0013 XBT
[2015-11-23 16:14:29] BitMEX_Wally : It's the principle that counts :)
[2015-11-23 16:14:35] justinlooking : :)
[2015-11-23 16:14:43] j8 : absolutely
[2015-11-23 16:17:58] podizzler3k_ : wally sam & arthur the best crypto coders since magicaltux bigvern and realsolid!
[2015-11-23 16:18:07] podizzler3k_ : big shoes to fill
[2015-11-23 16:23:59] podizzler3k_ : what u guys think https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-trading-strategies-november-23-2015/
[2015-11-23 16:24:09] podizzler3k_ : 300-330 until new years?! wahhhhhhhhh
[2015-11-23 16:24:37] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: I agree...short as well
[2015-11-23 16:24:57] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: we're very close to rolling over imo
[2015-11-23 16:28:38] rapidtrades : look at that prick with 6x1 contracts
[2015-11-23 16:28:54] rapidtrades : prolly flippper the trolll
[2015-11-23 16:29:07] rapidtrades : now trolling the orderbook
[2015-11-23 16:29:27] BitMEX_Sam : This is why grouping happened :)
[2015-11-23 16:37:08] rapidtrades : euro and commodities getting trounced today
[2015-11-23 16:39:59] Swedishnut : stocks are tumbling this week. I am guessing ends the week below 1950 SP
[2015-11-23 16:42:24] rapidtrades : anything that's not the US Dollar is getting butt fuked
[2015-11-23 16:44:53] rapidtrades : ''I quit my job to be a travel writer and now I'm broke and unemployed''
[2015-11-23 16:45:10] rapidtrades : prolly the best article title this year :)
[2015-11-23 16:46:26] rapidtrades : aaaaand now he's spamming the recent orders tab
[2015-11-23 16:53:44] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: you still here? come irc :)
[2015-11-23 17:13:10] justinlooking : TschavaTschigger: gimme cpl hrs m8 will b on
[2015-11-23 18:48:21] ethexio : Is there a clever way to export P/L , settlement price and fees per day?
[2015-11-23 19:40:50] podizzler3k_ : 1000x leverage plz
[2015-11-23 19:59:41] podizzler3k_ : wow okcoin is literally stuck at 2073.84
[2015-11-23 19:59:46] podizzler3k_ : its hardly moving .1
[2015-11-23 20:04:17] Swedishnut : does it have a crowbar stuck in the chipper?
[2015-11-23 20:05:17] podizzler3k_ : ahah seems that way
[2015-11-23 20:05:20] podizzler3k_ : giant wall at 2074
[2015-11-23 20:06:12] podizzler3k_ : someone needs to market buy about 500btc of fake volume so we can move past this. other wise i might fall asleep at the terminal
[2015-11-23 20:07:06] justinlooking : zzz
[2015-11-23 20:10:20] Swedishnut : shouldn't the markets be crazy moving with all the unusual market motions and loss of value? Or is there some magic hand keeping "Status Quo"??
[2015-11-23 20:11:10] micmix : podizzler3k_: Okcoin ppl are busy spending profits they made on the recent pump & dump. will last a while :-)
[2015-11-23 20:11:59] podizzler3k_ : how am i supposed to get to panama with this lack of volatility
[2015-11-23 20:12:15] justinlooking : i reckon a lot of peeps moved their btc to cold storage when rumours of sactions started flying
[2015-11-23 20:12:48] podizzler3k_ : sanctions?
[2015-11-23 20:12:52] podizzler3k_ : you mean the EU shit
[2015-11-23 20:12:52] Swedishnut : right? someone blow their loads of random perceived direction and force a move?
[2015-11-23 20:13:39] micmix : podizzler3k_: yeah, tough to make anything with 1.06 daily volatility
[2015-11-23 20:14:07] podizzler3k_ : my gf keeps asking when im coming to visit
[2015-11-23 20:14:12] podizzler3k_ : i tell her soon
[2015-11-23 20:14:22] podizzler3k_ : and then this happens
[2015-11-23 20:15:33] micmix : well look at the bright side: it's tough to get rekt as well :-)
[2015-11-23 20:15:41] podizzler3k_ : shes just waiting and waiting http://imgur.com/K3dfMGR and i cant get to panama to see her
[2015-11-23 20:32:42] TschavaTschigger : 7/10 would bang
[2015-11-23 20:36:20] TschavaTschigger : can't believe this girl got Miss Panama, don't find her that pretty
[2015-11-23 20:49:39] jung1 : how green
[2015-11-23 20:49:48] jung1 : we go up more?
[2015-11-23 20:56:31] justinlooking : such flash
[2015-11-23 21:08:35] BitMEX_Sam : wow
[2015-11-23 21:17:21] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: hey Sam we talked about keep-alive recently. Do you know what the timeout is (how long the connection is being kept alive)?
[2015-11-23 21:17:38] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm, should be 60s of inactivity, let me double-check
[2015-11-23 21:17:40] BitMEX_Sam : Are you having issues?
[2015-11-23 21:17:48] TschavaTschigger : No I just wanted to know
[2015-11-23 21:18:19] BitMEX_Sam : Ah. It's 30s
[2015-11-23 21:18:38] TschavaTschigger : Ok thanks a lot
[2015-11-23 21:18:43] BitMEX_Sam : No problem.
[2015-11-23 21:22:14] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: 30 sec? Ok, that explains it. I was wondering why I'm getting 'socket hang up' from public API every 10-15 minutes even though I'm polling every 30 seconds. I was sure keep-alive was 60 sec.
[2015-11-23 21:22:53] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, that's strange that the HTTP lib you're using would even expose that.
[2015-11-23 21:23:19] BitMEX_Sam : Unless you're basically treating the keepalive connection as a single opened stream - but you should have a mechanism for reconnecting regardless.
[2015-11-23 21:25:54] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: It's not a problem, it re-connects when needed. I will poll every 29 sec. to minimize re-connects.
[2015-11-23 21:26:17] BitMEX_Sam : Sounds good. Keep in mind you can reset the timer any time you communicate.
[2015-11-23 21:27:52] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: yep. we're using low level libs to minimize latency, so have to handle some stuff manually
[2015-11-23 21:32:34] TschavaTschigger : why would you use low level libs for millisecond-latencies? it's not like there is a computing bottleneck
[2015-11-23 21:34:22] TschavaTschigger : apart from the fact that the market is super-ineffiecient
[2015-11-23 22:12:32] Swedishnut : snore galore
[2015-11-23 22:46:33] rapidtrades : how are things looking to u guys?
[2015-11-23 22:47:35] thehawthorne : drop soon
[2015-11-23 22:48:37] Swedishnut : waiting for more Black Friday Bitcoin News. Might drive some spenders to try and save through Purse.io or other stuff
[2015-11-23 22:53:12] AudibleScience : I need to get a good mm bot...
[2015-11-23 22:55:16] rapidtrades : AudibleScience: me too
[2015-11-23 22:56:06] rapidtrades : hope the bulls are reading for some butt fucking!
[2015-11-23 22:57:06] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: I thought you were only discretionary
[2015-11-23 22:57:56] rapidtrades : AudibleScience: I am but I mostly use limits to enter/exit
[2015-11-23 23:02:20] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: that's discretionary though see... the mm bot I want to set up is to provide liquidity so that you (and I) can have more opportunities when discretionary... or trading manually...
[2015-11-23 23:03:22] AudibleScience : back in a while....
[2015-11-23 23:06:11] rapidtrades : tempted to add to my shorts...
[2015-11-23 23:07:01] irbbqu : Too late now
[2015-11-23 23:07:34] rapidtrades : irbbqu: nope...this drop has a lot more to go imo
[2015-11-23 23:07:59] irbbqu : I agree, but choppy still + China has some support here
[2015-11-23 23:08:50] rapidtrades : we've traded at discount here all day
[2015-11-23 23:09:13] irbbqu : 7d at premium
[2015-11-23 23:11:57] rapidtrades : irbbqu: that's a nice premium for 3.5 days
[2015-11-23 23:58:03] rapidtrades : anyone here? long short?
[2015-11-24 00:09:53] BitMEX_Sam : markets are real quiet today.
[2015-11-24 00:23:59] micmix : yeah, and 2.5K turnover on XBT24H is very low
[2015-11-24 00:30:25] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. Everyone's way down. Stamp usually does 25-35K &btc; per day and they're sitting at about 5 today
[2015-11-24 00:31:33] ethexio : party's over
[2015-11-24 00:32:49] ethexio : hoob going for center of earth
[2015-11-24 00:35:50] ethexio : buy the dip :|
[2015-11-24 00:36:48] podizzler3k : buy the center of the earth?
[2015-11-24 00:37:15] podizzler3k : investing in liquid hot "mag-ma"
[2015-11-24 00:39:19] jung1 : I bet that we will hit 300 in this year
[2015-11-24 01:19:07] ethexio : Hmm
[2015-11-24 01:38:55] podizzler3k : yes seems like btc getting the slow death atm. sad
[2015-11-24 01:39:09] podizzler3k : at least its not the fast death like usual
[2015-11-24 01:51:20] floopfloop : rip btc
[2015-11-24 01:56:41] rapidtrades : still holding my short...
[2015-11-24 02:01:21] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: u?
[2015-11-24 02:02:18] podizzler3k : [19:37] <podizzler3k> investing in liquid hot "mag-ma"
[2015-11-24 02:03:43] floopfloop : RIP
[2015-11-24 02:06:34] podizzler3k : whalecall alert!
[2015-11-24 02:06:45] podizzler3k : $BTCUSD Quarterly futures has liquidated a long position of 2361 contract at 321.00 #rekt
[2015-11-24 02:06:48] podizzler3k : more to come
[2015-11-24 02:07:08] ethexio : ^
[2015-11-24 02:07:10] podizzler3k : BTCUSD Weekly futures has liquidated a long position of 1103 contract at 314.57 #rekt
[2015-11-24 02:07:45] podizzler3k : wow
[2015-11-24 02:08:17] podizzler3k : hahah they ddos'd okcoin to hide the slaughter
[2015-11-24 02:08:27] podizzler3k : it hit 2018
[2015-11-24 02:08:45] podizzler3k : and then bounced to 2050
[2015-11-24 02:08:47] podizzler3k : wowza
[2015-11-24 02:11:14] floopfloop : podizzler3k: sell the long or keep it?
[2015-11-24 02:12:42] podizzler3k : im on the sidelines
[2015-11-24 02:13:35] podizzler3k : waiting to see what happens here
[2015-11-24 02:13:49] floopfloop : podizzler3k: i bought the dip
[2015-11-24 02:16:32] podizzler3k : little soon dont you think?
[2015-11-24 02:16:49] rapidtrades : ok out
[2015-11-24 02:17:07] rapidtrades : almost $5 on that move
[2015-11-24 02:17:19] podizzler3k : nicely done
[2015-11-24 02:17:24] rapidtrades : with rebates over $5 :)
[2015-11-24 02:17:29] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: tnx man
[2015-11-24 02:17:38] ethexio : Rebates
[2015-11-24 02:17:49] podizzler3k : if they were just trying to get those two whales out then mission accomplished
[2015-11-24 02:17:53] rapidtrades : ethexio: the positive commission I mean
[2015-11-24 02:18:02] habibi : podizzler3k: which ones?
[2015-11-24 02:18:20] podizzler3k : 2361 and 1103 contracts
[2015-11-24 02:18:27] habibi : on okc?
[2015-11-24 02:18:30] podizzler3k : yea
[2015-11-24 02:18:36] ethexio : I know, @rapidtrades . Just the term rebate seems funny in this context
[2015-11-24 02:19:49] podizzler3k : well we cant say the price isnt moving anymore
[2015-11-24 02:22:40] floopfloop : podizzler3k: sold too early *sigh*
[2015-11-24 02:27:50] podizzler3k : better than too late
[2015-11-24 02:28:04] HotDogs : No one ever went broke taking a profit
[2015-11-24 02:28:44] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-24 02:30:00] rapidtrades : so what's next?
[2015-11-24 02:31:43] micmix : still range-bound until 2k CNY is broken for a day or two, just scalp the range
[2015-11-24 02:32:26] micmix : micmix is not a licensed financial advisor. The information presented in this message is an opinion, and is not purported to be fact. Bitcoin is a volatile instrument and can move quickly in any direction. micmix is not responsible for any trading loss incurred by following this advice.
[2015-11-24 02:32:49] rapidtrades : lol
[2015-11-24 02:33:12] rapidtrades : too late, I took ur advice and lost all my monies