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[2015-11-22 17:31:12] BitMEX_Wally : It will tell your your current rates
[2015-11-22 17:31:16] TschavaTschigger : yeah it says 0.045%
[2015-11-22 17:31:29] BitMEX_Wally : You were referred by someone
[2015-11-22 17:31:35] BitMEX_Wally : So you get 10% off for 6 months
[2015-11-22 17:31:58] TschavaTschigger : I wasn't
[2015-11-22 17:32:31] TschavaTschigger : maybe I clicked on a referral link when signing up lol
[2015-11-22 17:32:36] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2015-11-22 17:32:45] TschavaTschigger : tschavatschigger got outplayed hard
[2015-11-22 17:33:28] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: Am I just SOL if no one has used the referral link to sign up?
[2015-11-22 17:33:51] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: I was promoting Bitmex locally at the BTC meetup here before it ever was live lol
[2015-11-22 17:33:52] habibi : ref is active for 7 days after u enter page, so u could register later using bitmex.com and still gets up on ref
[2015-11-22 17:34:24] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: If you give us the email addresses of people who might have signed up we can link them to your account as referrals
[2015-11-22 17:34:29] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: Just email support@bitmex.com
[2015-11-22 17:34:58] j8 : what if we don't have any friends
[2015-11-22 17:35:20] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: I dont know if they signed up. Also, not the same or as many people show up to those any more. I had Arthur skype in to introduce Bitmex once
[2015-11-22 17:36:07] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: Its not a huge deal, I was just wondering. If I come across any emails Ill let you know for sure though
[2015-11-22 17:37:27] floopfloop : anyone else thinking we see 2100 tested today again?
[2015-11-22 17:37:39] floopfloop : or has it failed the 2100 test as of this morning?
[2015-11-22 17:47:23] floopfloop : omg 93% longs at bfx
[2015-11-22 17:48:03] floopfloop : a whale with like 5-10k btc should just go there and massive sell everyone into margin call
[2015-11-22 17:48:59] j8 : those meters are meaningless
[2015-11-22 17:49:38] floopfloop : they are usually a faint indicator
[2015-11-22 17:51:13] j8 : look at total sum of active swaps instead
[2015-11-22 17:51:56] floopfloop : link?
[2015-11-22 17:51:58] j8 : you'll see that longs are down about $160,000 from earlier today
[2015-11-22 17:52:02] j8 : https://bfxdata.com/combined/btc
[2015-11-22 17:52:15] j8 : longs being usd swaps
[2015-11-22 17:52:36] floopfloop : j8: for your enjoyment: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwidw_eozKTJAhVBmR4KHZL4A2YQyCkIHzAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DX4Rm87cqnUI&usg=AFQjCNHOus2mP88e9c58LDHsy6qo11VYIQ&sig2=QLcgjjlBCnKSvYKaT_7VyQ&bvm=bv.108194040,d.eWE
[2015-11-22 17:52:58] floopfloop : j8: oops, here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Rm87cqnUI
[2015-11-22 17:53:18] floopfloop : and thanks
[2015-11-22 17:53:43] j8 : np. the thing with the meters is it only counts opened long/short, not closed
[2015-11-22 17:53:59] j8 : so if someone closes and re-longs, it shoots up
[2015-11-22 17:54:27] j8 : so the net longs/shorts over time are more meaningful
[2015-11-22 17:54:48] floopfloop : lmk what you think of that link lol
[2015-11-22 17:54:51] floopfloop : so epic
[2015-11-22 17:56:21] j8 : can't watch right now
[2015-11-22 17:56:57] floopfloop : its more listening but save it if not
[2015-11-22 18:00:19] floopfloop : j8: so is the res line shorts or?
[2015-11-22 18:00:22] floopfloop : red
[2015-11-22 18:00:42] j8 : yes
[2015-11-22 18:01:10] j8 : green is total USD swaps, which includes people longing LTC also
[2015-11-22 18:01:57] j8 : which is a bit confusing. there's no way to tell if someone borrowed USD to buy BTC or LTC
[2015-11-22 18:03:12] j8 : but normally people don't worry about that since the ltc market on bitfinex is pretty small
[2015-11-22 18:13:56] floopfloop : j8: predictions for today?
[2015-11-22 18:15:54] rapidtrades : down
[2015-11-22 18:16:10] floopfloop : rapidtrades: no one asked you
[2015-11-22 18:16:12] j8 : slow at least until china wakes up, i'm guessing nothing too exciting for the next few days
[2015-11-22 18:16:56] rapidtrades : floopfloop: k then...
[2015-11-22 18:17:21] j8 : volatility is down big time
[2015-11-22 18:18:54] rapidtrades : what's with the 5k chunks in the orderbook?
[2015-11-22 18:19:26] floopfloop : read
[2015-11-22 18:19:29] j8 : consolidating in a big triangle with still a few days to resolve, basically 2050 to 2100 cny is the range i'm watching
[2015-11-22 18:20:00] rapidtrades : floopfloop: that didn't help u now did it? blowout boy
[2015-11-22 18:20:23] floopfloop : blowout boy? rofl
[2015-11-22 18:24:29] rapidtrades : wait the fee structure will change?
[2015-11-22 18:24:43] rapidtrades : god dam...so that's why
[2015-11-22 18:24:57] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it is moving farther toward rewarding makers to encourage liquidity
[2015-11-22 18:25:18] rapidtrades : well that's good news for me :)
[2015-11-22 18:25:51] rapidtrades : but we're already seeing more competition by the looks of the orderbook...so we'll see how this works out
[2015-11-22 18:25:54] BitMEX_Sam : It's not an increase, simply a rebalance: `0 + 0.5 bps === -0.25 + 0.75 bps`
[2015-11-22 18:26:25] j8 : and if it makes spreads tighter, you may pay less in the end as taker
[2015-11-22 18:26:39] BitMEX_Sam : I think that's actually a fluke rapidtrades, the new fees don't go into effect until Monday
[2015-11-22 18:27:00] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: did u announce the changes before hand?
[2015-11-22 18:27:10] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, today
[2015-11-22 18:27:15] BitMEX_Sam : You should have an email
[2015-11-22 18:27:29] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: He never learned how to read
[2015-11-22 18:28:27] rapidtrades : floopfloop: hey if reading helped me make money, I would do it : Jesus Christ
[2015-11-22 18:28:41] rapidtrades : that's from the new testament
[2015-11-22 18:28:45] j8 : you'd be surprised
[2015-11-22 18:28:50] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-22 18:29:04] floopfloop : it would also make you look much less foolish
[2015-11-22 18:29:37] rapidtrades : floopfloop: I only look foolish to ppl without a sense of humor
[2015-11-22 18:31:00] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: was the fee change announced before today?
[2015-11-22 18:31:05] BitMEX_Sam : No
[2015-11-22 18:33:35] rapidtrades : ok let's see how this will play out..it should encourage more competition
[2015-11-22 18:34:19] j8 : i think it'll be good, however, what do you think about lowering the fee at settlement @BitMEX_Sam
[2015-11-22 18:34:25] TschavaTschigger : i'm curious in how this will turn out with the new fee changes. it never seemed to me as if there weren't enough makers
[2015-11-22 18:35:00] BitMEX_Sam : Settlement is remaining as-is but we'll consider our options
[2015-11-22 18:35:14] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: We're hoping to tighten the spreads which will make it cheaper to trade for everyone
[2015-11-22 18:35:15] j8 : as-is being 0.5% or 0.75%?
[2015-11-22 18:35:25] BitMEX_Sam : 0.005%
[2015-11-22 18:35:33] j8 : oh ok.
[2015-11-22 18:35:52] j8 : yeah i'm missing some zeros there
[2015-11-22 18:36:05] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry and I added one.
[2015-11-22 18:36:08] j8 : yes
[2015-11-22 18:36:09] BitMEX_Sam : :)
[2015-11-22 18:36:18] BitMEX_Sam : It's all on https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-11-22 18:36:59] rapidtrades : when do the changes start
[2015-11-22 18:37:05] BitMEX_Sam : Monday
[2015-11-22 18:37:50] rapidtrades : prolly smone did read the announcement properly and is starting to make markets today...these giant walls are unusual
[2015-11-22 18:38:58] j8 : there used to be 7500's and 12500's quoted but they've toned it down a bit lately
[2015-11-22 18:39:32] rapidtrades : ok I need to do some errands..bbl
[2015-11-22 19:05:49] TschavaTschigger : market making is as high as never before atm, however trades are quite low. might be the generally flat market today
[2015-11-22 19:06:17] TschavaTschigger : oh well, we had maintainance today, thats why the open interest is so low... forgot
[2015-11-22 19:06:46] BitMEX_Sam : Volume everywhere is very slow
[2015-11-22 19:07:34] BitMEX_Sam : One of our favorite at-a-glance pages: http://exchangewar.info/
[2015-11-22 19:12:25] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: nice, bookmarked
[2015-11-22 19:13:36] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: any update on the upcoming custom-leverage?
[2015-11-22 19:14:01] BitMEX_Sam : Not there yet, we have some work to do on the engine side for that
[2015-11-22 19:14:03] BitMEX_Sam : It's coming :)
[2015-11-22 19:20:07] podizzler3k : china premium .7%
[2015-11-22 19:20:11] podizzler3k : lame
[2015-11-22 19:27:19] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: hey sam, on api-explorer at the new api-interface I think I found a minor bug.. creating keys works fine, getting them too, disabling too, but when I try to delete I get "message": "apiKeyID is a required arg", although I do provide the correct ID
[2015-11-22 19:27:37] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Yes, DELETE is a bug in Swagger-UI
[2015-11-22 19:27:50] BitMEX_Sam : for whatever reason it doesn't pass parameters correctly. I'll check if that's been fixed upstream
[2015-11-22 19:28:07] BitMEX_Sam : You can manage your keys here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiKeys
[2015-11-22 19:28:38] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: oh yeah, that went online a few days ago... sweet, thanks
[2015-11-22 19:32:53] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: maybe a dumb question, but I can't squeeze two cidrs into one key? If I got two completely different ips I gotta make two separate keys right?
[2015-11-22 19:33:07] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, you have to make multiple keys for that
[2015-11-22 19:36:29] germanjew : I'm likely going to the scaling bitcoin workshops in HK, anyone else going?
[2015-11-22 19:36:29] habibi : that was liq?
[2015-11-22 19:43:55] irbbqu : yep
[2015-11-22 19:46:15] irbbqu : @320.68 lel
[2015-11-22 19:46:47] habibi : 319,81
[2015-11-22 20:04:44] irbbqu : Tough luck getting liquidated there
[2015-11-22 20:04:59] irbbqu : Almost too convenient lol
[2015-11-22 20:19:53] rapidtrades : well...spreads down to 5-15 cents now lol
[2015-11-22 20:40:19] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: update https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates page with new affiliate rules
[2015-11-22 20:40:41] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes :) Thanks jung1
[2015-11-22 20:41:51] rapidtrades : so what's changed? the discount is now 6 instead of 1 month?
[2015-11-22 20:42:15] jung1 : lifetime commision instead of 6 months
[2015-11-22 20:42:33] BitMEX_Sam : Discount is still 6mo
[2015-11-22 20:42:57] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: discount was 1 before?
[2015-11-22 20:43:05] BitMEX_Sam : No, it never was 1 month
[2015-11-22 20:43:09] rapidtrades : ok
[2015-11-22 20:43:14] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: hows about actual referals? they are lifetime as well?
[2015-11-22 20:43:24] BitMEX_Sam : Yes that is the announcement.
[2015-11-22 20:43:45] BitMEX_Sam : That's the whole announcement - that referral payments have gone from 6mo to lifetime
[2015-11-22 20:43:56] jung1 : good move
[2015-11-22 20:44:07] habibi : great, thought only new ones will get lifetime
[2015-11-22 20:44:29] rapidtrades : is it only new referrals ?
[2015-11-22 20:44:40] jung1 : couple of months and I will be a shareholder of bitmex
[2015-11-22 20:44:41] BitMEX_Sam : All will
[2015-11-22 20:44:59] BitMEX_Sam : We actually never expired anyone's referrals, even those that were supposed to - we had known for a while that we were going to do this
[2015-11-22 20:45:00] habibi : jung1: ilu już masz z coinformacje i reszty? :)
[2015-11-22 20:45:46] jung1 : zaraz 20%
[2015-11-22 20:46:22] habibi : a ilu reffów? ja dopiero 15% bede mial
[2015-11-22 20:47:00] jung1 : 24
[2015-11-22 20:47:06] jung1 : a gdzie sie ogłaszasz?
[2015-11-22 20:47:30] habibi : po znajomych
[2015-11-22 20:51:12] rapidtrades : where are we going next folkds
[2015-11-22 20:51:39] habibi : maybe week more of this boring consolidation
[2015-11-22 20:52:14] jung1 : I hope that its time for bear http://i.imgur.com/xewKtB4.jpg
[2015-11-22 20:52:47] rapidtrades : go bears!
[2015-11-22 21:05:15] rapidtrades : god dam the orderbook is shot lool
[2015-11-22 21:15:06] jung1 : if you add 0.1 grouping its not so bad
[2015-11-22 21:20:26] rapidtrades : jung1: nah
[2015-11-22 21:22:16] habibi : true, really bad liquidity
[2015-11-22 21:30:32] micmix : maker rebates from Monday, very nice! thank you BitMEX_Arthur!
[2015-11-22 21:33:17] rapidtrades : my ass is paralyzed...
[2015-11-22 21:33:40] habibi : rapidtrades: ?
[2015-11-22 21:33:57] rapidtrades : too much action, can't get up
[2015-11-22 21:46:17] rapidtrades : god dam that was fun
[2015-11-22 21:50:28] jung1 : any profit?
[2015-11-22 21:52:10] rapidtrades : of course :)
[2015-11-22 21:56:42] zanza : wow this new change is crazy
[2015-11-22 21:57:20] rapidtrades : zanza: crazily awesome?
[2015-11-22 21:57:59] zanza : If I market make 10 mil a day, I can make $2500 PER DAY
[2015-11-22 21:58:05] zanza : wtf bananas
[2015-11-22 21:58:47] rapidtrades : zanza: good luck with that...u'll be lucky if u get filled on 10k here
[2015-11-22 21:59:55] micmix : zanza: you can also lose 5% of your MM balance if the market runs away from you. MM is not risk-free
[2015-11-22 22:00:08] rapidtrades : micmix: wise words
[2015-11-22 22:00:19] habibi : micmix: ur mm is 5k ones?
[2015-11-22 22:00:29] rapidtrades : micmix: yeah is it?
[2015-11-22 22:00:58] habibi : micmix: and why only 5 % ;p?
[2015-11-22 22:01:11] micmix : habibi: no :-)
[2015-11-22 22:01:34] rapidtrades : zanza: ur calc are wrong, u only get $240 per day for 10mil
[2015-11-22 22:02:02] zanza : says the guy who didn't even read the contract specs
[2015-11-22 22:02:45] micmix : 5% is just an example. if you run your MM unhedged you will usually try to reduce your position much sooner
[2015-11-22 22:03:41] micmix : but in any case MM in volatile markets like bitcoin is definitely not risk-free
[2015-11-22 22:03:47] rapidtrades : zanza: if reading did any good, it would be outlawed by the power that be
[2015-11-22 22:04:55] habibi : micmix: but ur dont have profit only from mm, looks at 5k bot, he moves the market when he want making some people panic buys or sells
[2015-11-22 22:04:57] jung1 : anyone from belgium here?
[2015-11-22 22:05:20] zanza : does netherlands count? :)
[2015-11-22 22:05:22] rapidtrades : jung1: yeah want some chocolate?
[2015-11-22 22:06:14] micmix : habibi: yeah, you can try to push the market if you're top MM in a small pond but it can backfire if people are running arbitrage
[2015-11-22 22:06:49] habibi : arbitrage on futures its a g reat idea, is it?
[2015-11-22 22:06:58] zanza : surte
[2015-11-22 22:07:13] rapidtrades : can any of ppl spell
[2015-11-22 22:07:16] micmix : of course, lots of money can be made on premium vs spot
[2015-11-22 22:07:36] jung1 : rapidtrades: nah. army are on brussels streets, citizens cant came to windows, metro is closed
[2015-11-22 22:08:14] zanza : u in brussels jung1?
[2015-11-22 22:08:23] zanza : i hear isis center in europe is belgium
[2015-11-22 22:08:29] rapidtrades : zanza: lol
[2015-11-22 22:08:55] rapidtrades : zanza: god dam I could used that to iron my clothes
[2015-11-22 22:09:13] zanza : i hear is mostly native born muslim from immigrant parents who will become radicalized, is that true?
[2015-11-22 22:09:21] zanza : not direct immigrants i mean
[2015-11-22 22:10:03] rapidtrades : yes
[2015-11-22 22:10:13] habibi : which means we need more muslim imigrants for futher generations of terrorists. Sick!
[2015-11-22 22:11:26] jung1 : zanza: nah
[2015-11-22 22:12:07] zanza : ?
[2015-11-22 22:12:14] jung1 : yeah belgium attack france. france should go for a war to belgium not to syria
[2015-11-22 22:12:18] jung1 : im not in brussel now
[2015-11-22 22:12:56] zanza : its strange though, the parents are happy to immigrate, since they will have a better life, but *some* of the kids become radicalized
[2015-11-22 22:12:58] rapidtrades : in other news, a drunk Russian crashed a ship into Scotland
[2015-11-22 22:13:47] jung1 : zanza: its because of social benefits. They get a lot of money for watching tv and smoking pot so they are bored and have stupid ideas
[2015-11-22 22:14:14] jung1 : if they will not get any benefits noone will came here because they will have to work
[2015-11-22 22:14:15] zanza : so only immigrant children get benefits?
[2015-11-22 22:14:42] jung1 : basicly most of immigrants
[2015-11-22 22:15:08] zanza : but , they didn't "came here" they were born
[2015-11-22 22:15:10] zanza : right?
[2015-11-22 22:15:17] zanza : their parents immigrate here
[2015-11-22 22:15:22] rapidtrades : he's confused lol
[2015-11-22 22:16:30] zanza : also I heard the woman bomber in france parties/drank alcohol/boyfriends/clubbing a lot
[2015-11-22 22:17:05] rapidtrades : she wasn't the one who blew herself up tho
[2015-11-22 22:17:27] rapidtrades : some other guy...they can't id him yet cos he's in pieces
[2015-11-22 22:17:49] rapidtrades : that's why they initially thought only 2 died
[2015-11-22 22:18:31] jung1 : zanza: its whole terrorist movement and a lot of people came here without checking them before
[2015-11-22 22:18:35] jung1 : https://twitter.com/NewsOnTheMin
[2015-11-22 22:18:54] jung1 : come on. shooting on the streets in europe?
[2015-11-22 22:19:47] zanza : weren't all the attackers in France not immigrants, they were born in EU?
[2015-11-22 22:19:53] rapidtrades : only 2 are suspected to come from the refugees...rest were French/Belgian
[2015-11-22 22:20:03] rapidtrades : so like 20%
[2015-11-22 22:20:16] rapidtrades : not sure how u can CHECK that
[2015-11-22 22:21:42] zanza : lol @ russian sailor rapidtrades
[2015-11-22 22:22:55] zanza : i haven't been following news today, was there an attack in Brussels?
[2015-11-22 22:23:20] rapidtrades : no but they're on high alert
[2015-11-22 22:23:36] zanza : a threat?
[2015-11-22 22:23:49] rapidtrades : anyway I'm gonna rest for a bit, things are calming down
[2015-11-22 22:24:04] rapidtrades : bbl
[2015-11-22 22:39:07] TschavaTschigger : zanza: they all had migrant background
[2015-11-22 22:39:37] zanza : so their parents were immigrants? thats what we said
[2015-11-22 22:40:12] TschavaTschigger : oh, didn't read so far back
[2015-11-22 22:40:32] TschavaTschigger : two of them came as "refugees" though
[2015-11-22 22:40:54] zanza : ok
[2015-11-22 22:41:21] TschavaTschigger : dunno if they were born in EU or not, but two of them definitely came on the classic balkan-route with the other refugees
[2015-11-22 22:41:53] zanza : so its mostly native EU born children of immigrants
[2015-11-22 22:42:39] zanza : i still dont understand really why they are so unhappy?
[2015-11-22 22:42:53] TschavaTschigger : well we have a sample size of like 7.. we can't draw conclusions to all terrorists, but these: yeah
[2015-11-22 22:43:01] zanza : they live in rich countries without fear of death
[2015-11-22 22:43:01] TschavaTschigger : lol.. they are islamists
[2015-11-22 22:43:07] TschavaTschigger : they hate the west
[2015-11-22 22:43:22] zanza : all Muslims do?
[2015-11-22 22:43:25] TschavaTschigger : no
[2015-11-22 22:43:30] TschavaTschigger : i said islamist
[2015-11-22 22:43:35] TschavaTschigger : islamist != moslem
[2015-11-22 22:44:09] zanza : i see, they are radicalized
[2015-11-22 22:44:17] TschavaTschigger : there are moslems, they believe in the Islam.. but then there are Islamists that believe in Islamism (I hope it's the correct word in English)
[2015-11-22 22:44:27] zanza : but how come their parents aren't radicalized?
[2015-11-22 22:44:30] TschavaTschigger : at least that's the German differentiation
[2015-11-22 22:44:37] zanza : i understand @TschavaTschigger
[2015-11-22 22:44:45] zanza : Islamist = radical islam
[2015-11-22 22:45:23] zanza : I think the parents are happy they can move to a place with food and without war
[2015-11-22 22:45:26] TschavaTschigger : not neccessarily radical, they just believe that the Islam law should be above the law of the country
[2015-11-22 22:45:36] TschavaTschigger : but it often leads to radicalism
[2015-11-22 22:45:54] zanza : btw, do you watch the show Homeland? one of my favorites
[2015-11-22 22:46:11] TschavaTschigger : well the young ones are often desperate because they can't find jobs... they are bored, don't have money
[2015-11-22 22:46:16] TschavaTschigger : no, never heard of it :(
[2015-11-22 22:46:38] zanza : yes, I think you are right
[2015-11-22 22:46:45] zanza : There is a problem with integration with the children
[2015-11-22 22:47:04] TschavaTschigger : there are whole suburbs that are islamistic in europe
[2015-11-22 22:47:11] TschavaTschigger : cause politicians don't care
[2015-11-22 22:47:40] TschavaTschigger : I am very liberal btw, always voted left-wing parties all my life... but our politicians are a total joke.. should have closed the borders a long time ago
[2015-11-22 22:47:49] zanza : the problem in Europe, is native born people aren't having children!
[2015-11-22 22:47:51] TschavaTschigger : 0 vision, iq 60
[2015-11-22 22:48:20] zanza : declining native populations, but their social system requires workers to pay for the older
[2015-11-22 22:48:30] zanza : so they are forced to take immigrants
[2015-11-22 22:48:51] zanza : if EU people just had more children, they could close the border =]
[2015-11-22 22:48:56] TschavaTschigger : we are not forced to take 80k immigrants a year.. our country has 8 million people
[2015-11-22 22:49:08] TschavaTschigger : immigration is good, obviously, that is not the question here
[2015-11-22 22:49:23] TschavaTschigger : it's all about a healthy number
[2015-11-22 22:49:47] zanza : also, it seems like you could get immigrants from all over the world who would love to live in Germany, like China/India/etc
[2015-11-22 22:49:55] TschavaTschigger : there is 0% chance we can integrate these people, they are going to create parallel-societies
[2015-11-22 22:50:05] TschavaTschigger : too many at once
[2015-11-22 22:50:27] zanza : how come the politicians feel they have to take so many from Muslim countries mostly? (since the culture is very different)
[2015-11-22 22:50:35] zanza : obviously the people choose the politicians
[2015-11-22 22:51:06] TschavaTschigger : because austria+germany have a very special mindset in europe.. nobody talks about that in the US
[2015-11-22 22:51:26] TschavaTschigger : because of ww2 we feel very guilty... and being "right-winged" is absolutely not cool
[2015-11-22 22:51:33] zanza : oh
[2015-11-22 22:51:54] TschavaTschigger : yeah.. if you vote for right-winged party, you never tell anyone cause it'S embarrassing
[2015-11-22 22:52:07] zanza : that makes sense, but what about France/Belgium and others?
[2015-11-22 22:52:46] TschavaTschigger : they just failed with their immigration politics... this has nothing to do with the current "open borders" because this is largely because of germany
[2015-11-22 22:52:59] TschavaTschigger : this happened last 10-20 years
[2015-11-22 22:53:29] TschavaTschigger : the france/belgium suburbs I mean
[2015-11-22 22:54:42] TschavaTschigger : but you gotta understand, although the terrorists were EU citizens and lived here before, the refugee crisis brought a whole lot of "momentum"
[2015-11-22 22:55:03] TschavaTschigger : the IS people could move in and out all the time
[2015-11-22 22:55:10] TschavaTschigger : could recruit people down there, come back etc. etc.
[2015-11-22 22:56:09] zanza : also the EU nationalists become more vocal I think gives isis power
[2015-11-22 22:56:26] TschavaTschigger : maybe
[2015-11-22 22:58:06] TschavaTschigger : but it was time for them to get more power because the left-winged parties lost their sense of reality... totally idealistic
[2015-11-22 22:58:45] zanza : i see
[2015-11-22 23:03:50] zanza : so EU is having now what happened after 9/11 in America?
[2015-11-22 23:21:48] TschavaTschigger : zanza: no, the USA declared war on terrorism and went to offensive mode
[2015-11-22 23:22:18] zanza : ok
[2015-11-22 23:22:33] TschavaTschigger : we are still trying to be nice... borders are still open everywhere :D but not long anymore I guess
[2015-11-22 23:23:41] TschavaTschigger : at least now, you can criticize current politics without having everbody think you are a nazi
[2015-11-22 23:23:50] TschavaTschigger : going to bed now, cya + ybebye
[2015-11-22 23:46:57] zanza : goodnight
[2015-11-22 23:55:49] jung1 : cyka blyat
[2015-11-23 00:11:25] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-22/obama-blames-social-media-russian-pm-blasts-irresponsible-us-policy-strengthening-is
[2015-11-23 01:05:41] babybaby : go long
[2015-11-23 02:34:54] rapidtrades : babybaby: hey baby!
[2015-11-23 02:36:10] babybaby : hiya no volume
[2015-11-23 02:36:38] rapidtrades : yeah
[2015-11-23 02:37:01] rapidtrades : when do the new fee changes come to force? was it 10:00?
[2015-11-23 02:37:55] BitMEX_Arthur : 12:00 GMT today
[2015-11-23 02:40:32] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: tnx man
[2015-11-23 02:40:47] rapidtrades : so after settlement...will there be another downtime?
[2015-11-23 03:04:49] BitMEX_Arthur : No
[2015-11-23 03:05:44] podizzler3k : someone go wake up sergey mavrodi i want anther bubble to trade
[2015-11-23 03:07:32] floopfloop : i was literally just about to short too. wtf fml
[2015-11-23 03:08:13] podizzler3k : damn you missed that 5cny dump
[2015-11-23 03:08:55] podizzler3k : gonna be tough to recover mentally from that
[2015-11-23 03:09:11] floopfloop : its going to 2060
[2015-11-23 03:11:42] zanza : time to give up!
[2015-11-23 03:11:42] podizzler3k : possibly
[2015-11-23 03:12:15] podizzler3k : you gotta believe its trading bias 101
[2015-11-23 03:12:40] floopfloop : thaqts it
[2015-11-23 03:12:42] floopfloop : had enough of this shit
[2015-11-23 03:12:48] floopfloop : im uninstalling bitmex
[2015-11-23 03:12:53] zanza : rofl
[2015-11-23 03:13:07] podizzler3k : make some straight lines on the chart that's all youre missing
[2015-11-23 03:13:07] zanza : is thatl ike clearing cookie history? :)
[2015-11-23 03:13:23] podizzler3k : i heard if you can make this thing called 'tri angle' then you unlock the key to the future
[2015-11-23 03:13:43] floopfloop : zanza: thats what you do when you need to hide the porn history on your parents PC
[2015-11-23 03:13:52] floopfloop : podizzler3k: illuminati
[2015-11-23 03:17:42] rapidtrades : floopfloop: you called?
[2015-11-23 03:30:36] podizzler3k : http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/11/22/9554-bitcoin-belonging-to-isil-seized-by-hactivists/
[2015-11-23 03:30:52] podizzler3k : is it possible for anonymous to hack newsbtc? seriously fuck those guys
[2015-11-23 03:31:10] podizzler3k : throw in cryptocoinsnews while youre at it
[2015-11-23 03:31:23] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: how much did they seize
[2015-11-23 03:32:35] floopfloop : podizzler3k: fck you
[2015-11-23 03:32:58] floopfloop : podizzler3k: Anonymous is the greatest thing since sliced bread
[2015-11-23 03:33:37] rapidtrades : floopfloop: found the angsty teenager
[2015-11-23 03:33:44] podizzler3k : the article is most likely bs
[2015-11-23 03:33:57] podizzler3k : but anonymous has been infiltrated more times than thepiratebay
[2015-11-23 03:34:03] podizzler3k : not sure you can trust them at this point
[2015-11-23 03:35:14] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: how can u infiltrate annonymouse? it's not an organization is it? just a bunch of kids rallying around a cause...it could be anything really
[2015-11-23 03:35:41] floopfloop : rofl @ "kids"
[2015-11-23 03:35:53] podizzler3k : you show up at their house with about 20 swat dudes and say you will do what we say or go to guantanamo for 30 years
[2015-11-23 03:36:15] floopfloop : the real peeps dont get caught
[2015-11-23 03:37:07] rapidtrades : the real peeps!
[2015-11-23 03:37:18] rapidtrades : did u mean perps?
[2015-11-23 03:48:12] podizzler3k : *derps
[2015-11-23 03:55:03] podizzler3k : huobi dump
[2015-11-23 04:31:55] floopfloop : <blink>Bitcoin is a SCAM! It's fake internet money!</blink?
[2015-11-23 04:34:23] zanza : lol
[2015-11-23 05:59:23] ethexio : floopfloop: shh.
[2015-11-23 05:59:43] ethexio : oh, hour and 1/2 later..
[2015-11-23 06:13:53] podizzler3k : ok so something is gonna happen in about 5 hours
[2015-11-23 06:14:07] podizzler3k : big move
[2015-11-23 06:41:29] HotDogs : podizzler3k: Which way do u think
[2015-11-23 06:54:15] billyboy402 : cool how do you create flashing text
[2015-11-23 07:00:31] germanjew : add \<blink\>
[2015-11-23 07:00:36] germanjew : mmmm
[2015-11-23 07:00:39] germanjew : < blink >
[2015-11-23 07:01:14] ethexio : <blink><blink><blink>
[2015-11-23 07:01:42] ethexio : <blink>/<blink/></blink>
[2015-11-23 07:02:06] ethexio : \<
[2015-11-23 07:02:48] ethexio : `<blink>Hi</blink>`
[2015-11-23 07:03:31] ethexio : hmm, still blinks inside backtick'd <code> block
[2015-11-23 07:03:39] ethexio : \`
[2015-11-23 07:03:41] ethexio : /`
[2015-11-23 07:04:00] ethexio : how to escape special chars?
[2015-11-23 07:05:19] micmix : ``
[2015-11-23 07:05:25] micmix : ````
[2015-11-23 07:05:41] micmix : '`'
[2015-11-23 07:05:47] micmix : '` '`
[2015-11-23 07:06:19] billyboy402 : didnt work for me < blink >
[2015-11-23 07:06:33] billyboy402 : \<hi>
[2015-11-23 07:06:53] billyboy402 : /hi
[2015-11-23 07:08:50] micmix : "`
[2015-11-23 07:08:52] micmix : `
[2015-11-23 07:08:56] micmix : ``
[2015-11-23 07:09:04] micmix : ```
[2015-11-23 07:09:28] micmix : \\
[2015-11-23 07:09:30] micmix : \\`
[2015-11-23 07:09:33] micmix : \\``
[2015-11-23 07:09:44] micmix : ok, I give up :-)
[2015-11-23 07:12:52] rapidtrades : good mrning
[2015-11-23 07:12:59] rapidtrades : morning*
[2015-11-23 07:15:34] germanjew : < blink > without the spaces
[2015-11-23 07:15:50] germanjew : <blink> hello world </blink>
[2015-11-23 07:16:24] germanjew : and then you (need?) closing < / blink >
[2015-11-23 07:16:31] germanjew : again, without the spaces
[2015-11-23 07:17:19] rapidtrades : doesn't work for me
[2015-11-23 07:17:35] rapidtrades : <blink>
[2015-11-23 07:18:07] rapidtrades : <blink> hello jew
[2015-11-23 07:18:14] rapidtrades : there it is!
[2015-11-23 07:18:32] billyboy402 : <blink> hi <blink>
[2015-11-23 07:18:37] billyboy402 : oh cool
[2015-11-23 07:18:41] gaoMex : test <blink>
[2015-11-23 07:19:01] rapidtrades : <blink test failed>
[2015-11-23 07:19:09] rapidtrades : <blink> test failed
[2015-11-23 07:19:13] gaoMex : <blink> test <\blink>
[2015-11-23 07:19:15] billyboy402 : gaoMex: <blink> text <blink
[2015-11-23 07:19:30] billyboy402 : i love learning some thing new
[2015-11-23 07:19:38] rapidtrades : <blink> this will get annoying real fast
[2015-11-23 07:19:52] billyboy402 : lol
[2015-11-23 07:19:58] gaoMex : <blink> getting silly <\blink>
[2015-11-23 07:20:35] gaoMex : any other interesting commands?
[2015-11-23 07:20:47] rapidtrades : <fireworks> test
[2015-11-23 07:21:23] billyboy402 : bold doesnt work
[2015-11-23 07:21:44] gaoMex : <bold> test <\bold>
[2015-11-23 07:21:45] laisee : blinkin' traders of BMX
[2015-11-23 07:21:47] rapidtrades : <bold> test
[2015-11-23 07:23:25] laisee : <blink><label color="red">STOP THE MADNESS</label></blink>
[2015-11-23 07:24:13] podizzler3k : nice dump
[2015-11-23 07:24:23] podizzler3k : big volume but price barely moved
[2015-11-23 07:24:25] podizzler3k : impressive support
[2015-11-23 07:24:45] rapidtrades : <blink> what dump, all I see is blink
[2015-11-23 07:25:26] podizzler3k : lets see if any more sell pressure comes here in a minute
[2015-11-23 07:29:34] laisee : <MARQUEE>Price is going down!!!</MARQUEE>
[2015-11-23 07:29:57] rapidtrades : are u sure?
[2015-11-23 07:31:16] podizzler3k : 30m chart looks good :P
[2015-11-23 07:31:50] podizzler3k : 1m MACD is green
[2015-11-23 07:31:55] podizzler3k : whats the prob looks bullish AF
[2015-11-23 07:37:11] rapidtrades : knock knock
[2015-11-23 07:39:51] ethexio : `who's there?`
[2015-11-23 07:40:55] ethexio : dump a tad more pls
[2015-11-23 07:41:02] rapidtrades : Bear
[2015-11-23 07:41:09] ethexio : just a smidge
[2015-11-23 07:41:24] ethexio : `bear who?`
[2015-11-23 07:42:23] ethexio : or are you calling me a bear?
[2015-11-23 07:42:58] rapidtrades : ethexio: I couldn't think of anything that doesn't involve rape, or having sex with smone's mother
[2015-11-23 07:43:03] rapidtrades : so I decided to pass
[2015-11-23 07:43:17] ethexio : good call
[2015-11-23 07:43:18] rapidtrades : feeling classy today /
[2015-11-23 07:48:51] rapidtrades : oil getting butt fucked
[2015-11-23 07:49:05] rapidtrades : but sex
[2015-11-23 08:01:24] ethexio : fücked
[2015-11-23 08:01:38] ethexio : testing...
[2015-11-23 08:03:10] floopfloop : ethexio: nice
[2015-11-23 08:03:33] rapidtrades : deliberately evading censorship is a TOS violation
[2015-11-23 08:03:42] ethexio : I͈̋ͮ̿̆ ̳̥̰̭̰͍͌ͬ͌͐̒̃l̲̯̪̾͌̉͊̉o̷͎̰̣ͥ̓͌ͫv̥̹͋̏͜e̖̼ͮ ̸̰̓ͫ̇͐̏̽ṭ̢̓̐̏̔͑̐h͎̭͙̠͖͌̐͂̾̾͑ͫe̲͈͌̓̑̚ ͋҉B̫̤͎̩̯͚̻ͯͮi҉̜tͦ̐ͯ̽́ͤ̽M̨̳ͥͥ̓͋̈́E̝͖X̔ͪ͝ ̵̲͓͉̑̐s̗̮t̝̭̮͖̥̜̘́͆ͣ̏̊ͣ̌a̛͕̲̥͕̹̬̎̾̑̚ͅf̶͕̦̪̹͔͕̀̾ͮ͑͂ͭ̚ͅf͖͕̞͕̻̠̄͑
[2015-11-23 08:03:55] ethexio : sorry
[2015-11-23 08:04:12] rapidtrades : I'm kidding :)
[2015-11-23 08:04:26] ethexio : I didn't know censorship evasion was a TOS condition.
[2015-11-23 08:06:02] ethexio : When movement boring, we have to create things to keep us occupied.
[2015-11-23 08:06:22] ethexio : Or go to sleep.
[2015-11-23 08:07:52] rapidtrades : I've had no trades today
[2015-11-23 08:08:20] rapidtrades : one tp got hit but no new trades...slow and hard to get fills
[2015-11-23 08:12:36] rapidtrades : the settlement fees will stay the same after today? 0.05?
[2015-11-23 08:17:13] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: yes
[2015-11-23 08:17:21] BitMEX_Arthur : 0.05%
[2015-11-23 08:17:21] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: tnx
[2015-11-23 08:20:27] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: what happens with affiliate commissions when the user you referred gets maker rebates?
[2015-11-23 08:20:43] TschavaTschigger : lol I wanted to ask the same thing, was already typing
[2015-11-23 08:20:51] micmix : do you get a portion of the rebate?
[2015-11-23 08:21:19] BitMEX_Arthur : micmix: No you don't
[2015-11-23 08:21:29] BitMEX_Arthur : You get a portion of fees paid by takers only
[2015-11-23 08:21:39] micmix : ok, thanks!
[2015-11-23 08:22:07] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: and a portion of settlement fee, right?
[2015-11-23 08:22:23] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2015-11-23 08:22:30] micmix : ok, good
[2015-11-23 08:22:45] ethexio : 10%
[2015-11-23 08:23:00] BitMEX_Wally : 10% at first, can go up to 20%
[2015-11-23 08:23:43] micmix : @BitMEX_Wally: it goes up to 50% according to https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2015-11-23 08:23:58] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry that is stale, Arthur is updating it now
[2015-11-23 08:24:17] micmix : oh, I was looking forward to 50% :-)
[2015-11-23 08:24:32] BitMEX_Wally : Hah that table was created back when the highest leverage was 5x
[2015-11-23 08:25:44] rapidtrades : I don't see any trades....anyone?
[2015-11-23 08:26:23] podizzler3k : are you biased? take a look at the inverse chart and see if you feel the same way https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ti2Ypj5J/
[2015-11-23 08:27:20] floopfloop : podizzler3k: what is that?
[2015-11-23 08:27:47] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: I was so close to getting 15% affiliate commissions
[2015-11-23 08:27:56] ethexio : Inverted chart
[2015-11-23 08:28:15] podizzler3k : yes
[2015-11-23 08:28:52] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: I guess you are going to increase the volume requirements
[2015-11-23 08:29:14] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: looks bearish
[2015-11-23 08:29:16] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: No, we're leaving the 10, 15% and 20% requirements
[2015-11-23 08:29:18] BitMEX_Wally : Just capping it at 20%
[2015-11-23 08:29:32] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: ah good
[2015-11-23 08:29:41] podizzler3k : rapidtrades interesting
[2015-11-23 08:30:19] ethexio : we're in an inverted bear stage
[2015-11-23 08:30:50] ethexio : upside-down bears tend to get grumpy
[2015-11-23 08:31:59] podizzler3k : no china premium means mining pool dumps win in the long term. but maybe okcoin and huobi want to burn some shorts first, and set up some bulls for the slaughter
[2015-11-23 08:55:01] TraderStefan : Any plans for BitMEX to add a FIX api?
[2015-11-23 08:59:05] BitMEX_Arthur : In the future yes, but not in the near term
[2015-11-23 08:59:21] BitMEX_Arthur : Not enough demand
[2015-11-23 09:01:56] TraderStefan : ok thanks. It can be hard to deal with for most people. I really like OKCoin's implementation though. Very fast
[2015-11-23 09:05:38] rapidtrades : what api does bitmex use
[2015-11-23 09:05:47] rapidtrades : GUYS
[2015-11-23 09:06:13] rapidtrades : <blink> NOTHING IS HAPPENING
[2015-11-23 09:06:52] TraderStefan : BitMEX has REST and Websocket
[2015-11-23 09:08:47] rapidtrades : TraderStefan: and what language to I need to learn to program with those thinggies
[2015-11-23 09:10:11] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiOverview
[2015-11-23 09:10:26] BitMEX_Wally : We offer Sample API Connectors
[2015-11-23 09:13:38] rapidtrades : sounds fancy...what does it mean
[2015-11-23 09:23:29] SnackyCoins : rapidtrades: you can connect to an api with any language you want 8)
[2015-11-23 09:23:54] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: so English cool?
[2015-11-23 09:24:21] SnackyCoins : sure, but you might have a difficult time making http calls
[2015-11-23 09:24:53] rapidtrades : <blink> COMPUTER MAKE ME $1,000,000,000,000 , GRACIAS
[2015-11-23 09:25:18] SnackyCoins : and then it comes to life and attempts to turn you into a big stack of cash
[2015-11-23 09:25:30] SnackyCoins : because computers take things literally
[2015-11-23 09:25:35] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: :P
[2015-11-23 09:25:52] rapidtrades : that's a good plot for a shitty movie
[2015-11-23 09:26:55] SnackyCoins : How many bitcoin traders does it take to ATTENTION USERS WE HAVE BEEN HACKED AND ALL THE LIGHTBULBS ARE GONE
[2015-11-23 09:27:49] rapidtrades : <blink> COMPUTER MAKE ME A FRAPPUCCINO
[2015-11-23 09:29:19] rapidtrades : dam nothing stopping this Euro selloff lol
[2015-11-23 09:34:28] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Don't forget to close the tag with `< / blink >`
[2015-11-23 09:34:36] BitMEX_Wally : (minus the spaces)
[2015-11-23 09:35:03] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: <blink>Bitmex is Malware, uninstall immediately</blink>
[2015-11-23 09:35:58] floopfloop : omg rofl
[2015-11-23 09:36:21] BitMEX_Arthur : The Force is strong in this one
[2015-11-23 09:36:22] floopfloop : +1 for Wally for admin of the year
[2015-11-23 09:36:27] floopfloop : has my vote
[2015-11-23 09:37:17] zanza : that pic gunna be the24H when - fees hit
[2015-11-23 09:38:45] rapidtrades : zanza: it will be fun..can't wait to see the changes in behavior
[2015-11-23 09:39:27] zanza : hope it doesn
[2015-11-23 09:39:37] zanza : doesn't scare any takers, we will see