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[2017-03-22 18:49:52] RoftheN : Bitcoin was already hardforked right. And immutable? It's not like we cancel a smartcontract or reverse a transaction, just improving it
[2017-03-22 18:50:03] etoque : will see
[2017-03-22 18:50:46] rapidtrades : aethlios: how much did he lose?
[2017-03-22 18:51:03] RoftheN : Damn that Dash short reminds me of my XMR short back then
[2017-03-22 18:51:10] RoftheN : But I didn't quit and now I'm back to where I was
[2017-03-22 18:51:13] aethlios : rapidtrades: he posted the margin call email from polo. 120 btc.
[2017-03-22 18:51:16] Ahhere : rapidtrades: 150 btc
[2017-03-22 18:51:22] DoubleU : aethlios: lol i guess they didnt know about roger
[2017-03-22 18:51:52] rapidtrades : dam that's rough
[2017-03-22 18:52:12] aethlios : DoubleU: this trade will be right when dash crash to 20, but never short a crypto, just long low and wait for the pump.
[2017-03-22 18:52:47] RoftheN : It's kinda amazing how smart the whales have been controlling pumps to dump slower and liquidating big shorts. I'm impressed with the evolving market manipulation
[2017-03-22 18:53:20] RoftheN : So who is that guy again, was he here too?
[2017-03-22 18:53:41] thegypsy : /sentiment
[2017-03-22 18:53:44] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 67.40 / 32.61 Daily : 56.15 / 43.86 Weekly : 55.66 / 44.34 Monthly : 52.39 / 47.61```
[2017-03-22 18:53:57] etoque : aethlios: +1
[2017-03-22 18:54:12] aethlios : RoftheN: whales when pump, they never retrace, so all shorts are constantly in loss, don't give you chance to close, then margin calls push price even higher.
[2017-03-22 18:54:14] etoque : aethlios: unless it spike like crazy in a very short time
[2017-03-22 18:54:19] etoque : and so,still risky lol
[2017-03-22 18:55:48] RoftheN : I think the best time is to short alts is if a pump is done and it's looking stable for a few days
[2017-03-22 18:56:05] RoftheN : And even then, low leverage and not too much
[2017-03-22 18:58:56] etoque : RoftheN: LOL
[2017-03-22 18:59:02] etoque : RoftheN: you'll finish ruin mate
[2017-03-22 18:59:10] etoque : RoftheN: altcoin starting a gigantic pump rn
[2017-03-22 18:59:24] etoque : why you stick so much on btc?
[2017-03-22 18:59:33] etoque : altcoin are so much better
[2017-03-22 18:59:33] RoftheN : I mean short term
[2017-03-22 18:59:35] RoftheN : look at Dash
[2017-03-22 18:59:46] RoftheN : it went to 0.125
[2017-03-22 18:59:51] hmmmYea : RoftheN: if I thought the markets were controlled by a omnipotent conspiracy, i prolly wouldn't trade at all.
[2017-03-22 18:59:55] RoftheN : I shorted around 0.120.0.125
[2017-03-22 19:00:00] RoftheN : to 0.1
[2017-03-22 19:00:01] RoftheN : then closed
[2017-03-22 19:00:11] etoque : who care dash,already took 10x,you think every other have take 10x too ? or they are not capable because it haven't done at same time ? this is a mistake,its call unpatience
[2017-03-22 19:00:30] etoque : trust me you'll finish ruin
[2017-03-22 19:00:30] Ahhere : etoque: etc the new btc?
[2017-03-22 19:00:39] RoftheN : Yes I think Dash won't go another 10x atleast not this year
[2017-03-22 19:00:45] etoque : The case is to make money,not make random affirmation
[2017-03-22 19:00:50] RoftheN : Too much competition, too less money
[2017-03-22 19:01:01] etoque : who know etc is next bitcoin,its pointing right north big time
[2017-03-22 19:01:05] RoftheN : Well it earned me some, just not much
[2017-03-22 19:01:42] RoftheN : But DASH won't be the new bitcoin. Too many good alternatives, XMR, Zcash
[2017-03-22 19:01:59] RoftheN : ETC however is the immutable ETH, so I can believe that, shorting ETC is more risky than shorting DASH
[2017-03-22 19:02:22] RoftheN : But problem with ETC is that the ETH foundation and the DAO thief own too much ETC
[2017-03-22 19:02:29] RoftheN : They can sell anytime
[2017-03-22 19:03:47] Ahhere : believing in etc is like buying a chinese fake iPhone and expecting customer support
[2017-03-22 19:04:49] cryptoyolo : short now
[2017-03-22 19:04:56] cryptoyolo : close at 950 easy money
[2017-03-22 19:05:28] Ahhere : plan is "lets copy eth". nice
[2017-03-22 19:06:09] etoque : Ahhere: LOL https://grayscale.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Grayscale-Ethereum-Classic-Investment-Thesis-March-2017.pdf
[2017-03-22 19:06:14] etoque : don't be that stupid
[2017-03-22 19:06:22] etoque : ETC have more potential than ETH
[2017-03-22 19:06:35] Ahhere : now who is being stupid.
[2017-03-22 19:06:45] etoque : im serious
[2017-03-22 19:06:48] Ahhere : etc = joke
[2017-03-22 19:07:01] etoque : keep fudding,im happy,we talk of ETC
[2017-03-22 19:07:15] etoque : I lived people trolling dash and take 10x,set your seatbelt noob
[2017-03-22 19:08:01] Ahhere : oh it will probably pump, but like dash, it is a joke just don't get stuck holding that piece of trash and don't belive your bullshit
[2017-03-22 19:08:16] etoque : LOL
[2017-03-22 19:08:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 1002.92
[2017-03-22 19:08:21] etoque : you're the trash trading only btc
[2017-03-22 19:08:25] etoque : noob
[2017-03-22 19:08:41] etoque : diversity is good
[2017-03-22 19:08:43] Ahhere : not noob babes
[2017-03-22 19:09:01] etoque : lets see who make more money
[2017-03-22 19:09:43] Oak : how is it - how does the future contracts settle in case of a hard fork?
[2017-03-22 19:10:00] Ahhere : etoque: im not on leaderboard, are u?
[2017-03-22 19:10:20] etoque : just been 2 week im here lol patience
[2017-03-22 19:10:34] Ahhere : thought u said 4 years?
[2017-03-22 19:10:39] etoque : in crypto
[2017-03-22 19:10:44] etoque : bitmex is new for me
[2017-03-22 19:10:45] Ahhere : lol
[2017-03-22 19:10:57] etoque : and very profitable from now lol
[2017-03-22 19:11:13] yooooD : do you guys have backgrounds in trading
[2017-03-22 19:11:16] RoftheN : The only problem with ETC is that the ETH devs/foundation own more ETC than they own ETH
[2017-03-22 19:11:16] etoque : just load a 0.2 2 week ago im up 2 btc now,slowly but surely
[2017-03-22 19:11:37] RoftheN : @yooooD did'nt you go to sleep?
[2017-03-22 19:11:45] yooooD : no im about to reload
[2017-03-22 19:11:45] Ahhere : thats a good roe
[2017-03-22 19:12:07] etoque : I love bitmex
[2017-03-22 19:12:16] RoftheN : I bought a BRIC ETF recently
[2017-03-22 19:12:46] Ahhere : yeah bitmex = best btc trading platform
[2017-03-22 19:13:03] RoftheN : I probably am still on a bitmex loss, but I'm getting close to a breakeven
[2017-03-22 19:13:04] Ahhere : *derivative trading platform lol
[2017-03-22 19:13:18] Tux26 : /sentiment
[2017-03-22 19:13:21] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.42 / 33.58 Daily : 56.32 / 43.68 Weekly : 55.68 / 44.33 Monthly : 52.40 / 47.60```
[2017-03-22 19:13:26] yooooD : how much do you guys generally leverage
[2017-03-22 19:13:27] RoftheN : But yeah I love Bitmex. I hope someone creates a Bitmex for elements/minerals
[2017-03-22 19:14:12] RoftheN : I like to stay around 10x for Bitcoin, but rn I'm only short x5
[2017-03-22 19:14:43] yooooD : bTC is so volatile it wiped me out
[2017-03-22 19:16:52] RoftheN : Good that you start with only 50$ then
[2017-03-22 19:16:58] Ahhere : yooooD: got to be liquid or close early
[2017-03-22 19:17:42] yooooD : i actually had 50 in a random wallet that was years old
[2017-03-22 19:17:48] yooooD : clicked some link it took me here
[2017-03-22 19:17:54] RoftheN : Nice
[2017-03-22 19:17:58] RoftheN : And lucky
[2017-03-22 19:17:59] yooooD : so i said why not press some buttons and play
[2017-03-22 19:18:18] RoftheN : You can also play Poker with bitcoins by the wa
[2017-03-22 19:19:40] yooooD : Owell im going long on ETH
[2017-03-22 19:19:42] yooooD : praying for the best
[2017-03-22 19:24:26] Ahhere : lol fines at 999 someone call the paramedics
[2017-03-22 19:24:38] Ahhere : lets bring this thing back to live
[2017-03-22 19:24:41] Ahhere : *life
[2017-03-22 19:25:36] DoubleU : finex and stamp have a lot of support
[2017-03-22 19:25:49] DoubleU : 7000 btc need to be sold to hit 850
[2017-03-22 19:26:17] Ahhere : shhh ver will hear u!
[2017-03-22 19:26:38] Ahhere : the big bad verwhale
[2017-03-22 19:26:54] thomaskikansha : bids can be pulled though
[2017-03-22 19:29:35] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-03-22 19:29:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 4000 @ 1002.54
[2017-03-22 19:30:29] DoubleU : buyers are back
[2017-03-22 19:30:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 1013.47
[2017-03-22 19:30:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 1012.50
[2017-03-22 19:30:41] Ahhere : oh watch out
[2017-03-22 19:31:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 200 @ 1015.78
[2017-03-22 19:31:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 600 @ 1014.84
[2017-03-22 19:31:15] Ahhere : DoubleU: i done been here buy-in bro it was lonely and sad not gonna lie
[2017-03-22 19:31:49] RoftheN : oh it went up
[2017-03-22 19:31:50] RoftheN : nice
[2017-03-22 19:31:52] RoftheN : now I can short more
[2017-03-22 19:35:27] Ahhere : bitcoin ded :( its official
[2017-03-22 19:35:36] Ahhere : dont buy
[2017-03-22 19:37:49] Winklevoss : are we lagging?
[2017-03-22 19:38:39] RocketScience : what t buyyyy?
[2017-03-22 19:39:05] RocketScience : dollars or alts
[2017-03-22 19:39:08] Winklevoss : Stamp and Bfnx are under 1017
[2017-03-22 19:39:39] RocketScience : Chinacoin is higher
[2017-03-22 19:39:47] Ahhere : pros watch btc-e
[2017-03-22 19:40:10] Ahhere : just 1057
[2017-03-22 19:40:34] RocketScience : i hope etc crashes so ican btfd
[2017-03-22 19:41:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 36 @ 0.040050
[2017-03-22 19:43:07] etoque : lol short this shitass bitcoin
[2017-03-22 19:43:29] Ahhere : etoque: :)
[2017-03-22 19:43:58] RocketScience : 2000 tommorow :D
[2017-03-22 19:44:18] RocketScience : then we halve it to 1000 on both chain
[2017-03-22 19:49:02] yooooD : when will they know about the fork?
[2017-03-22 19:49:32] yooooD : sorry for being such a noob
[2017-03-22 19:49:48] yooooD : im good at my real work IRL
[2017-03-22 19:50:32] Tetsuo : flippin burgers?
[2017-03-22 19:50:34] Tetsuo : :-)
[2017-03-22 19:51:43] yooooD : real estate but thanks im Vegetarian
[2017-03-22 19:52:15] Dynamix : Btc to 990 ;D
[2017-03-22 19:52:27] etoque : <800
[2017-03-22 19:53:11] yooooD : also what do you consider a good ROE to liquidate?
[2017-03-22 19:55:16] Ahhere : buy!!
[2017-03-22 19:55:17] mark121 : fkn shameless
[2017-03-22 19:56:44] mark121 : pathetic
[2017-03-22 20:01:16] etoque : LOL
[2017-03-22 20:01:23] etoque : everyone have open a short ? great
[2017-03-22 20:02:02] Ahhere : thanks for the fudning guise
[2017-03-22 20:02:23] Ahhere : as the late great goat would say
[2017-03-22 20:07:49] yooooD : this is getting boring
[2017-03-22 20:07:58] etoque : Ahhere: u noob
[2017-03-22 20:08:13] etoque : Ahhere: wait till it crashe again
[2017-03-22 20:08:32] etoque : with all respect
[2017-03-22 20:09:37] Ahhere : etoque: i not noob gf
[2017-03-22 20:09:51] etoque : ahah dont be mad
[2017-03-22 20:10:12] yooooD : ETH is so slow
[2017-03-22 20:10:13] etoque : you are too much on very short term patern
[2017-03-22 20:10:15] yooooD : ugg
[2017-03-22 20:10:34] etoque : btc still going to crash,not because it bounce 20 dollar from 1000 its finish lool
[2017-03-22 20:11:27] etoque : people slowly realise btc,as a coin,is useless(blockchain is cool,but any company can create their own + altcoin definitively killing btc)
[2017-03-22 20:11:37] etoque : open your eyes lol
[2017-03-22 20:12:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 101 @ 1012.86
[2017-03-22 20:12:15] etoque : in 5 years people will trade btc like ltc,just on side movement from next big one
[2017-03-22 20:12:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1250 @ 1010.36
[2017-03-22 20:13:07] etoque : Ahhere: I tell you
[2017-03-22 20:13:22] etoque : don'T focalize on very short term move
[2017-03-22 20:13:29] Ahhere : etoque: ok guy
[2017-03-22 20:18:26] Actualiteit : etoque: jesusfuckdude, youre still fudding?
[2017-03-22 20:18:41] Actualiteit : youve been at it for what, 3 hours now?
[2017-03-22 20:19:37] Tetsuo : pff 3h, amateur
[2017-03-22 20:19:51] Tetsuo : i´ve been fudding since 3+ years
[2017-03-22 20:21:58] yooooD : any words of wisdom after 3+ years?
[2017-03-22 20:22:44] Tetsuo : buy low sell high
[2017-03-22 20:23:21] jayesh : really a great advice
[2017-03-22 20:23:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1011.96
[2017-03-22 20:24:19] jayesh : etoque: BTC has more use than LTC. you are wrong. BU will be left behind. After Segwit, BTC will boom
[2017-03-22 20:24:40] etoque : lol
[2017-03-22 20:24:52] etoque : for you altcoin is represent by LTC ?
[2017-03-22 20:24:58] etoque : You're out of the game dude
[2017-03-22 20:25:04] etoque : stupid btc trader don't know anything :)
[2017-03-22 20:25:14] jayesh : we will see
[2017-03-22 20:25:50] etoque : ltc is the shit ass one out of the sea
[2017-03-22 20:25:59] etoque : the most shittiest crypto ever create
[2017-03-22 20:26:03] etoque : after btc
[2017-03-22 20:26:17] etoque : evolution guys.... market evolving
[2017-03-22 20:26:27] etoque : thing change
[2017-03-22 20:27:02] jayesh : :D
[2017-03-22 20:28:14] yooooD : buy?
[2017-03-22 20:29:10] jayesh : yooooD: Never ask advice in trollbox
[2017-03-22 20:29:32] aron : hiii
[2017-03-22 20:29:35] aron : why is btc so down
[2017-03-22 20:30:26] aron : something i dont know about?
[2017-03-22 20:30:38] yooooD : yes a fork
[2017-03-22 20:30:48] aron : but we knew it was happening
[2017-03-22 20:30:50] DoubleU : aron: people are taking profits
[2017-03-22 20:30:59] aron : how they taking profits?
[2017-03-22 20:31:39] sleger : selling their wives
[2017-03-22 20:31:57] aron : nice
[2017-03-22 20:31:59] jayesh : aron: lol ma n
[2017-03-22 20:32:04] aron : i mean they were shorting it?
[2017-03-22 20:32:17] aron : we all knew fork was gonna happen
[2017-03-22 20:32:23] aron : why they take profit and not me :(
[2017-03-22 20:32:29] aguia7 : etoque: falou pouco mas falou merda
[2017-03-22 20:32:43] aron : did we know the time of fork?
[2017-03-22 20:32:48] etoque : lollll
[2017-03-22 20:32:49] etoque : dont be mad
[2017-03-22 20:33:17] aron : i am mad
[2017-03-22 20:33:26] aron : i knew about fork but i no profit
[2017-03-22 20:33:26] etoque : BTC preserve olygarchy,not fair distribution,not immutable,full of tech problem...
[2017-03-22 20:33:32] sleger : aron: why you mad ?
[2017-03-22 20:33:36] etoque : no scalability
[2017-03-22 20:33:37] sleger : bitcoin is almost at its highest
[2017-03-22 20:33:45] aron : sleger its lowest
[2017-03-22 20:33:48] aron : 1200
[2017-03-22 20:33:50] aron : was normal
[2017-03-22 20:33:58] etoque : lol
[2017-03-22 20:34:06] aron : sleger i didnt short at 1100
[2017-03-22 20:34:13] aron : even though i knew fork will happen
[2017-03-22 20:34:15] hmmmYea : this is a great read
[2017-03-22 20:34:16] hmmmYea : https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-surpasses-1115-recovers-from-scaling-debate-pboc-talks
[2017-03-22 20:34:18] aron : but i didnt know time
[2017-03-22 20:34:23] etoque : you just trade blindly,but you don't see more expensive btc = more unusable as a currency
[2017-03-22 20:34:55] etoque : more butthurt people
[2017-03-22 20:35:07] etoque : anyway,soon you'll see it crash well to realise it
[2017-03-22 20:35:14] etoque : well enough
[2017-03-22 20:35:29] aron : when will it crash?
[2017-03-22 20:35:39] aron : 1000 is price after fork
[2017-03-22 20:35:39] etoque : its in progress
[2017-03-22 20:35:42] aron : so no more crash
[2017-03-22 20:35:46] aron : buy buy buy
[2017-03-22 20:35:53] etoque : its just resistance,it will be blow with patience
[2017-03-22 20:36:00] RocketScience : Sleger: dollar or which alts? to weather the drama
[2017-03-22 20:36:10] gustavo7 : /fork
[2017-03-22 20:36:11] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 702.10 (-5.73%) Bitfinex BCU : 301.81 (-1.01%) SLQ : 6 hours, 40 mins```
[2017-03-22 20:36:11] etoque : again,no single reason to buy btc
[2017-03-22 20:36:19] etoque : btc have reach his potential limit
[2017-03-22 20:36:35] aron : etoque why u think it will crash?
[2017-03-22 20:36:42] etoque : Read up
[2017-03-22 20:36:50] aron : fair price is 702+301
[2017-03-22 20:37:10] etoque : lol
[2017-03-22 20:37:15] RocketScience : etoque: buy etc? do you think it will keep 2.3 dollars worth ?
[2017-03-22 20:37:19] aron : etoque u said the more its price the more unusable it is
[2017-03-22 20:37:25] etoque : RocketScience: it going 10 buck
[2017-03-22 20:37:40] etoque : look chart full time
[2017-03-22 20:37:44] aron : etoque thats not a reason for crash
[2017-03-22 20:37:50] RocketScience : etoquethat what you are saying about btc...it dawned on me in last 3 days
[2017-03-22 20:38:10] etoque : btc have just reach his potential limit I strongly believe from what I see
[2017-03-22 20:38:12] RocketScience : it was always trading alts for btc profits...now i am trading alts to get more alts
[2017-03-22 20:38:23] aron : etoque what u think is fair price?
[2017-03-22 20:38:28] etoque : btc +1500$ is 10$ transaction,are you crazy ?
[2017-03-22 20:38:35] RocketScience : my trust in btc has been shaken by the forkening
[2017-03-22 20:38:55] aron : RocketScience why is that?
[2017-03-22 20:39:00] etoque : just... there's so many talent people in crypto market
[2017-03-22 20:39:02] aron : things are continuing as normal
[2017-03-22 20:39:11] etoque : btc dev actually big shitass doing nothing
[2017-03-22 20:39:17] RocketScience : aronif BU hits 50% hashpower ...
[2017-03-22 20:39:37] RocketScience : there will be chaos
[2017-03-22 20:39:59] aron : what makes u think itll hit that?
[2017-03-22 20:40:15] aron : besides i dont see why you guys are freaking over the fork?
[2017-03-22 20:40:26] aron : the fork has happened. its done.
[2017-03-22 20:40:27] DoubleU : BU mined almost 400 of last 1000 blocks.
[2017-03-22 20:40:51] RocketScience : it's a matter of few weeks, maybe days
[2017-03-22 20:40:57] RocketScience : i'd say days
[2017-03-22 20:41:12] aron : rocket whats your liq position
[2017-03-22 20:41:16] DoubleU : days if a big miner starts signaling
[2017-03-22 20:41:17] aron : let me predict if youll liquidat
[2017-03-22 20:41:20] RocketScience : http://xtnodes.com/#bitcoin_classic_blocks
[2017-03-22 20:43:38] aron : 900 is min price
[2017-03-22 20:45:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7767 @ 1004.28
[2017-03-22 20:45:32] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-03-22 20:48:40] RocketScience : peg btc to 1000 and trade alts in peace :P
[2017-03-22 20:49:12] aguia7 : BU Reflects:. Enjoy life, because when death comes, you die !! 2 - I tried to escape from me, but where I was going, I was !! I have the power, heeman
[2017-03-22 20:52:59] aron : rocketscience i dont understand
[2017-03-22 20:53:13] aron : peg it to a 1000 and use alts?
[2017-03-22 20:53:23] aron : how can u proft from only 10 usd movements?
[2017-03-22 20:53:41] aron : you need a lot of contracts/ leverage that means bad liq position
[2017-03-22 20:54:15] aron : BitMex_Wally can u tell me why my positon was close? my close price nor my liquid price was reached
[2017-03-22 21:04:04] thxforyourbtc! : Dash about to rip huge!
[2017-03-22 21:04:26] thxforyourbtc! : contract still at a discount!
[2017-03-22 21:05:07] hmmmYea : thxforyourbtc!: that is your 5 lot on the offer?
[2017-03-22 21:05:18] thxforyourbtc! : indeed damnit!
[2017-03-22 21:05:22] hmmmYea : lol
[2017-03-22 21:06:44] thxforyourbtc! : +187 more get rid of still
[2017-03-22 21:07:24] thxforyourbtc! : Damn thing is so hard to get out of
[2017-03-22 21:07:52] thxforyourbtc! : If you hold to expiration is it a fee if you leave it?
[2017-03-22 21:11:21] IRC-Source_78370 : hi guys what happens to bitmex?.
[2017-03-22 21:11:39] IRC-Source_78370 : scheduled downtime? may i have missed the announce?
[2017-03-22 21:14:20] lugo : does anyone else have problems connecting to bitmex.com right now? getting a 504 gateway timeout..
[2017-03-22 21:14:44] lugo : testnet.bitmex.com working fine
[2017-03-22 21:15:12] STRML : Lugo: yes, we are having a server issue, please hold for resolution
[2017-03-22 21:15:15] IRC-Source_78370 : the ite is down
[2017-03-22 21:15:23] IRC-Source_78370 : i've got "scheduled maintenance" message
[2017-03-22 21:15:43] lugo : STRML: oh allright, thanks for confirming
[2017-03-22 21:16:01] IRC-Source_78370 : was it announced somewhere?
[2017-03-22 21:16:05] lugo : *alright
[2017-03-22 21:16:10] STRML : The message is incorrect
[2017-03-22 21:16:17] IRC-Source_78370 : lol ok ^^
[2017-03-22 21:18:00] DoubleU : what
[2017-03-22 21:19:50] IRC-Source_78370 : any estimation about when it will be back online?
[2017-03-22 21:20:22] lugo : STRML: hope it's nothing serious, hodling thumbs
[2017-03-22 21:20:25] zy2 : it's down i think
[2017-03-22 21:20:30] DoubleU : btc tanking
[2017-03-22 21:20:34] STRML : I'll announce when we have more info
[2017-03-22 21:20:36] lugo : gnight
[2017-03-22 21:21:24] lugo : DoubleU is it forming a DoubleU?
[2017-03-22 21:21:25] IRC-Source_78370 : hope everything's ok
[2017-03-22 21:21:44] DoubleU : lugo: can you read this?
[2017-03-22 21:21:54] lugo : sure?!
[2017-03-22 21:22:03] DoubleU : ah i'm still in the trollbox on the web site
[2017-03-22 21:22:12] DoubleU : says everyone else is using IRC
[2017-03-22 21:22:24] STRML : Yes, the connection to the trading engine is currently down, which causes issues with login, but if your page is still open it is somewhat operation
[2017-03-22 21:22:26] STRML : operational*
[2017-03-22 21:22:46] lugo : heh, yeah irc's more convinient for me
[2017-03-22 21:22:52] zy2 : fingers crossed btc don't pump or dump now
[2017-03-22 21:23:10] DoubleU : i'll be the first to make a move once the site is back up
[2017-03-22 21:25:25] IRC-Source_78370 : if would be nice if price doesn't move
[2017-03-22 21:27:04] DoubleU : looks like ETH pumping
[2017-03-22 21:27:47] IRC-Source_78370 : according to the counter there were 1000+ users before the site went down, no trades since 20minutes and noone complains nice ^^
[2017-03-22 21:29:35] DoubleU : if price was moving people would complain but price hasnt moved in 30 minutes
[2017-03-22 21:29:49] MikeHunt : we are testing 1k
[2017-03-22 21:30:00] DoubleU : although btc pumping now
[2017-03-22 21:30:01] zy2 : speaking of which bfx just pumped slightly
[2017-03-22 21:30:24] DoubleU : i got my finger on market buy
[2017-03-22 21:33:25] IRC-Source_78370 : big council of bitcoin having discussion
[2017-03-22 21:35:34] MikeHunt : perhaps core devs can be brought to reason
[2017-03-22 21:35:43] IRC-Source_78370 : wouhou site back but no trading allowed
[2017-03-22 21:36:20] datboiyuan : guys not cool
[2017-03-22 21:36:49] BitMEX_Sam : Site is back, we will announce before trading resumes
[2017-03-22 21:37:09] stf28 : "order could not be submitted: exchange suspended"
[2017-03-22 21:37:12] datboiyuan : what about orders we couldn't place
[2017-03-22 21:37:17] stf28 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks
[2017-03-22 21:37:18] datboiyuan : prior to the outage
[2017-03-22 21:37:25] DoubleU : okay good
[2017-03-22 21:38:13] stf28 : i hope to not be liquidated when site comes back
[2017-03-22 21:38:21] weasil : whats going on
[2017-03-22 21:38:28] thxforyourbtc! : weasil: trading is down
[2017-03-22 21:39:15] DoubleU : dang mm took walls down
[2017-03-22 21:39:27] datboiyuan : well his bot went down the the api
[2017-03-22 21:40:04] stf28 : naked market lol
[2017-03-22 21:40:48] king.rex : they're running BU here?
[2017-03-22 21:41:34] Farzad : hey
[2017-03-22 21:41:39] Farzad : is BitMex down ?
[2017-03-22 21:41:45] Farzad : I dont see any price updates
[2017-03-22 21:41:47] cryptoyolo : wtf is goin on
[2017-03-22 21:41:50] thxforyourbtc! : yes it is
[2017-03-22 21:41:57] Farzad : WTF
[2017-03-22 21:42:02] BitMEX_Wally : Trading will resume in 5 minutes at 21:45 UTC
[2017-03-22 21:42:08] BitMEX_Wally : Until them you can cancel orders but not place them
[2017-03-22 21:42:09] DoubleU : that's 3 minutes
[2017-03-22 21:42:22] stf28 : ok thanks
[2017-03-22 21:42:22] Farzad : BitMEX_Wally: why was trading suspended ?
[2017-03-22 21:42:35] MikeHunt : http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/This-is-an-outrage.jpg
[2017-03-22 21:42:50] stf28 : i bet on some bot that gone crazy
[2017-03-22 21:43:09] BitMEX_Wally : Farzad: A process failed and did not gracefully restart
[2017-03-22 21:43:16] MikeHunt : bitmex testing their frontrunning bot?
[2017-03-22 21:43:31] Sean__ : hi all
[2017-03-22 21:43:38] Sean__ : is trading still frozen
[2017-03-22 21:43:47] stf28 : resume 21h45
[2017-03-22 21:44:36] Sean__ : we will resume at 45
[2017-03-22 21:44:42] Farzad : BitMEX_Wally: Can u please look at XBJH17 order book ?
[2017-03-22 21:44:58] Farzad : it is completely empty on bid side !
[2017-03-22 21:45:10] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: Trading has not restarted yet
[2017-03-22 21:45:18] Farzad : happened numerous times in last few days
[2017-03-22 21:45:30] DoubleU : i thought 45 after
[2017-03-22 21:45:33] Farzad : BitMEX_Greg: it has nothing to do with your current situation
[2017-03-22 21:45:52] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry, we are delaying the resumption of trading
[2017-03-22 21:45:55] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: Limited market makers in those contracts unfortunately. Our current market maker has pulled all their quotes
[2017-03-22 21:46:02] rapidgains : Lmao
[2017-03-22 21:46:21] stf28 : BitMEX_Wally: new estimation?
[2017-03-22 21:46:35] Sean__ : this is killing me
[2017-03-22 21:46:39] degenerate : shorters gonna get rekt by this
[2017-03-22 21:46:46] rapidgains : Yup
[2017-03-22 21:46:49] Sean__ : hehe well i am long
[2017-03-22 21:46:54] aron : whats going on?
[2017-03-22 21:46:57] Sean__ : but i would like to take my profit
[2017-03-22 21:47:09] Farzad : we are all doomed
[2017-03-22 21:47:13] Sean__ : haha
[2017-03-22 21:47:14] cryptoyolo : wtf
[2017-03-22 21:47:15] cryptoyolo : is goin
[2017-03-22 21:47:16] cryptoyolo : on
[2017-03-22 21:47:25] DoubleU : we are watching btc pump
[2017-03-22 21:47:27] king.rex : ...and its gone
[2017-03-22 21:47:29] MikeHunt : bitmex loading the helicopter with btc and making a getaway
[2017-03-22 21:47:31] aron : ???
[2017-03-22 21:47:34] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: Also be aware that we are not responsible for providing liquidity. We alert the market makers if they are out for a questionable period of time, but it is somewhat at their discretion to provide quotes
[2017-03-22 21:47:42] BitMEX_Wally : Resuming at 21:50 UTC in 3 minutes
[2017-03-22 21:47:53] stf28 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2017-03-22 21:47:53] L9 : Hey, I am shorting, will my position be liquidated?
[2017-03-22 21:47:56] king.rex : 0_o
[2017-03-22 21:47:58] Sean__ : thanks
[2017-03-22 21:48:00] zanza : yes sorry L9
[2017-03-22 21:48:04] MikeHunt : everyone liquidated
[2017-03-22 21:48:06] zanza : SFYL
[2017-03-22 21:48:07] MikeHunt : sell and buy all things
[2017-03-22 21:48:18] Sean__ : wait what?
[2017-03-22 21:48:22] gustavo7 : are all contracts locked or which are?
[2017-03-22 21:48:22] Sean__ : all liquidated
[2017-03-22 21:48:22] aron : do u guys know how much would i get from bank if i went to get loan without collateral?
[2017-03-22 21:48:24] stf28 : placing bets @ 0.00001 on btc ^^
[2017-03-22 21:48:28] aron : assume great credit score
[2017-03-22 21:48:43] Sean__ : aron where are you located?
[2017-03-22 21:48:44] zanza : about $3.50
[2017-03-22 21:48:47] aron : uk
[2017-03-22 21:48:47] L9 : I planned to close at market with profit. Why the stuff was halted?
[2017-03-22 21:48:49] DoubleU : i got my market buying finger ready. 75 seconds
[2017-03-22 21:48:58] rangle : dont take out a loan to trade here
[2017-03-22 21:48:59] aron : United. KingDom
[2017-03-22 21:49:02] Sean__ : you would get nothing
[2017-03-22 21:49:07] aron : why not?
[2017-03-22 21:49:13] aron : and im not taking out a loan
[2017-03-22 21:49:14] cryptoyolo : is price frozen?
[2017-03-22 21:49:16] aron : just wondering
[2017-03-22 21:49:26] aron : cryptoyolo btc is gone bye bye
[2017-03-22 21:49:27] Sean__ : cause you are british
[2017-03-22 21:49:30] Sean__ : ;-)
[2017-03-22 21:49:46] aron : cryptoyolo trading is frozen
[2017-03-22 21:49:46] Sean__ : you must service the queen mum
[2017-03-22 21:49:47] BitMEX_Sam : Trading resuming momentarily
[2017-03-22 21:49:49] Sean__ : and then you get money
[2017-03-22 21:49:50] aron : just like your heart
[2017-03-22 21:49:55] cryptoyolo : wtf
[2017-03-22 21:49:58] cryptoyolo : market buy this shit
[2017-03-22 21:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40 @ 1016.97
[2017-03-22 21:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3 @ 1017.96 :punch: :whale:
[2017-03-22 21:50:02] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-03-22 21:50:04] aron : why buy?
[2017-03-22 21:50:12] BitMEX_Wally : Trading has resumed
[2017-03-22 21:50:13] aron : why are u assuming a pump?
[2017-03-22 21:50:42] aron : does it always go up after trading is paused?
[2017-03-22 21:51:29] DoubleU : nice MM back
[2017-03-22 21:51:45] aron : to 1100 we go
[2017-03-22 21:51:53] L9 : My position was liquidated at the downtime, how can I awoid in the future?
[2017-03-22 21:51:57] aron : bitmex wally are u online?
[2017-03-22 21:52:03] DoubleU : L9: lower leverage
[2017-03-22 21:52:37] L9 : DoubleU: But I planned to close with profit my order was just cancelled. Why??
[2017-03-22 21:53:04] stf28 : L9: provide collateral for at least 100$ trading before liquidation
[2017-03-22 21:53:49] Sean__ : lol
[2017-03-22 21:53:52] Sean__ : put more money
[2017-03-22 21:53:54] Sean__ : in your account
[2017-03-22 21:53:56] Sean__ : for leverage
[2017-03-22 21:53:59] Sean__ : simple math
[2017-03-22 21:55:11] DoubleU : L9: sometimes unexpected things happen which you have to take into account
[2017-03-22 21:55:30] L9 : Sean__: My question was other why the profitable position was liquidated at the downtime. Shouldn't pending orders be executed after trading started again?
[2017-03-22 21:55:55] Tux26 : Who was complaining about bid side liquidity for quarterlies? Looks nice now :D
[2017-03-22 21:56:39] Farzad : Tux26: they go on and off
[2017-03-22 21:59:37] DoubleU : okcoin spot higher than other exchanges wtf
[2017-03-22 22:02:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 100 @ 1004.25
[2017-03-22 22:03:11] L9 : Can I trade again after my position was liquidated?
[2017-03-22 22:04:48] donsteep : if you still have coins left
[2017-03-22 22:05:36] gustavo7 : lol back to 1010
[2017-03-22 22:06:18] L9 : donsteep: I used isolated margin only position collateral burnt
[2017-03-22 22:06:58] L9 : donsteep: "Stop Loss" at some point
[2017-03-22 22:07:05] thxforyourbtc! : If you hold a contract through expiration does the settlement charge any fee?
[2017-03-22 22:07:28] BitMEX_Greg : thxforyourbtc!: Please refer to our Fees page: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-03-22 22:07:59] donsteep : L9: then yes, of course. why wouldn't you?
[2017-03-22 22:09:00] L9 : So to avoid losses at unexpected downtime it seems I shouldn't use cross margin
[2017-03-22 22:09:38] donsteep : that's a way to look at it
[2017-03-22 22:10:25] donsteep : it's better not to let positions liquidate but I think it's a proper fail safe
[2017-03-22 22:18:36] mark121 : lol who sold all that ETH 20 mins ago
[2017-03-22 22:19:12] mark121 : i fear for u
[2017-03-22 22:21:05] thxforyourbtc! : if btc forks all of a sudden are contracts worthless?
[2017-03-22 22:21:18] mark121 : it wont hapen all of a sudden
[2017-03-22 22:22:01] justinlooking : putin got wood???
[2017-03-22 22:22:56] mark121 : why would cross margin help you any more or less than isolated margin during downtime
[2017-03-22 22:23:49] donsteep : mark121: on the wrong side of the movement, isolated margin caps your losses
[2017-03-22 22:24:11] mark121 : assuming sure
[2017-03-22 22:24:15] mark121 : oops
[2017-03-22 22:24:26] mark121 : sure, but it could also cause u to liquidate
[2017-03-22 22:24:39] mark121 : where cross wud have saved u
[2017-03-22 22:24:40] donsteep : that's kind of the point, isn't it?
[2017-03-22 22:25:57] donsteep : reasonably you'd probably have a stop loss level in mind but I'd imagine those won't trigger in extreme conditions either
[2017-03-22 22:26:00] mark121 : hence why one wud be better than the other as a given for downtime
[2017-03-22 22:26:52] mark121 : ya, during downtime it wudnt help ya if it movement occurs during it
[2017-03-22 22:27:19] donsteep : if you want to a hard stop loss then margin does that for you, other than that it's all situational anyway
[2017-03-22 22:27:25] mark121 : i was wondering what is bitmex policy
[2017-03-22 22:27:48] mark121 : if i.e. u got rekt durin that downtime
[2017-03-22 22:28:04] mark121 : (assuming not scheduled maintence)
[2017-03-22 22:30:04] KingTuna : How does one mitigate the risk and hedge whilst waiting for Bitmex to manually process withdrawals?
[2017-03-22 22:30:30] mark121 : pray
[2017-03-22 22:30:54] j8 : keep enough balance elsewhere to manage for a day
[2017-03-22 22:30:54] KingTuna : eg. Had I sent through a withdrawal overnight my time, I would have dropped equivalent of 3 BTC whilst waiting..
[2017-03-22 22:31:34] Ahhere : 1080 by morning goodnight suckers
[2017-03-22 22:32:19] mark121 : its like anything else in this thing of ours Mr Tuna
[2017-03-22 22:32:36] mark121 : timing is everything
[2017-03-22 22:33:42] aethlios : 835 in 2 days
[2017-03-22 22:34:08] donsteep : would it work to go short 1x and withdraw in a few iterations?
[2017-03-22 22:34:47] frog : donsteep: good explanation, it avoids trader ending up with negative balance which is bad for all parties
[2017-03-22 22:35:17] donsteep : please elaborate
[2017-03-22 22:35:22] mark121 : aye but if funding is max -%
[2017-03-22 22:36:02] mark121 : gona be costly
[2017-03-22 22:36:42] mark121 : yes pls elaborate
[2017-03-22 22:36:52] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-22 22:38:12] zy : this is bs, it was 1100 this morning
[2017-03-22 22:38:26] mark121 : not rly
[2017-03-22 22:38:40] DoubleU : all bags have been filled. soon 850
[2017-03-22 22:38:44] mark121 : it certainly wasnt unexpected
[2017-03-22 22:39:42] mark121 : and that $100 in movement is a mighty profitable trade, more than makes up for the loss in value
[2017-03-22 22:39:59] MikeHunt : made $50 today
[2017-03-22 22:40:13] MikeHunt : (50% RoE)