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[2017-03-22 17:33:08] DoubleU : of course. running out of chances to buy just above 1000
[2017-03-22 17:33:14] DoubleU : these are gifts from weakhands
[2017-03-22 17:35:15] Ahhere : DoubleU: was a thinking i must be the only retrrded one
[2017-03-22 17:40:39] DoubleU : btc will probably dump to hell though
[2017-03-22 17:40:55] DoubleU : better coins to be in. but i just wonder when it'll dump.
[2017-03-22 17:42:21] Ahhere : DoubleU: better coins?
[2017-03-22 17:42:30] DoubleU : ETH and DASH
[2017-03-22 17:42:31] DoubleU : XMR
[2017-03-22 17:42:55] DoubleU : BTC will soon be bagholder city with the amount of people buying above 1000
[2017-03-22 17:43:14] Ahhere : DoubleU: meh, eth and dash I have but one day soon all those coins will fall >50% you won't get out quick enough
[2017-03-22 17:43:37] DoubleU : the thing is people will not be leaving those coins to get back into BTC any mroe
[2017-03-22 17:43:43] DoubleU : btc is dying a slow death right now
[2017-03-22 17:44:01] DoubleU : eventually there will be a big huge dump as bitfinex longers get margin called
[2017-03-22 17:44:08] Ahhere : sooo.. bitcoin is really dead this time
[2017-03-22 17:44:22] Actualiteit : for the 1XXth time yes
[2017-03-22 17:44:30] DoubleU : if it doesnt fork then we get high fees.
[2017-03-22 17:44:40] DoubleU : if it does fork then we got a buggy BU and a mess
[2017-03-22 17:44:47] Ahhere : cats only have 9 lives and bitcoin only has 1XX
[2017-03-22 17:45:04] Ahhere : high fees don't matter to me
[2017-03-22 17:45:16] DoubleU : the thing is BTC is dying when other coins market caps go up and stay up
[2017-03-22 17:45:51] Ahhere : which coin allows censorship free transmission of the most money?
[2017-03-22 17:45:54] DoubleU : i guess btc wont die as in goes to $0 and everyone stops mining
[2017-03-22 17:46:07] DoubleU : but just becomes less important as other coins take its place
[2017-03-22 17:46:44] DoubleU : but what throws that theory off is the "Estimated Next Difficulty: 503,322,062,230"
[2017-03-22 17:47:04] DoubleU : someone keeps adding miners
[2017-03-22 17:47:17] DoubleU : i think it might be the China government
[2017-03-22 17:47:27] DoubleU : once they have enough power they can destroy BTC for good
[2017-03-22 17:47:53] mdsmm : DoubleU: wrong reasoning. Total market of crymto is increasing as well
[2017-03-22 17:48:04] mdsmm : crypto*
[2017-03-22 17:48:15] DoubleU : once www.ethmex.com opens then bitmex.com dies
[2017-03-22 17:48:15] Ahhere : DoubleU: which coin allows censorship free transmission of the most money?
[2017-03-22 17:48:46] DoubleU : Ahhere: BTC till another coin market cap grows into the billions
[2017-03-22 17:49:42] Ahhere : DoubleU: say eth market cap matches btc and someone transferred a billion to terorists. Does vitalik go to jail?
[2017-03-22 17:49:53] Ahhere : can it be censored?
[2017-03-22 17:51:22] Actualiteit : Ahhere: does Jellen go to jail everytime dollars are used in drugdeals?
[2017-03-22 17:51:23] DoubleU : the person who transferred it goes to jail
[2017-03-22 17:51:55] Ahhere : the USG controlS dollars @Actualiteit
[2017-03-22 17:52:43] Ahhere : DoubleU: primary function of blockchains is permissionless transmission of uncorruptible value. the rest is secondary.
[2017-03-22 18:02:45] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-22 18:02:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 53.09 / 46.91 Daily : 55.07 / 44.93 Weekly : 55.55 / 44.45 Monthly : 52.33 / 47.67```
[2017-03-22 18:04:38] Tetsuo : /joke
[2017-03-22 18:04:39] trollbot : ``` My dentist asked me the last time I flossed I replied, "You remember.. You were there.."```
[2017-03-22 18:05:05] DoubleU : i should use that next time
[2017-03-22 18:09:14] RoftheN : Or you should floss you european disgusting weird
[2017-03-22 18:09:16] RoftheN : o
[2017-03-22 18:09:43] DoubleU : i enjoy shit stuck between my teeth only to cause problems later in life
[2017-03-22 18:12:16] DoubleU : dump time
[2017-03-22 18:12:21] DoubleU : xbtm17 to under 1000
[2017-03-22 18:12:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 659 @ 1013.02
[2017-03-22 18:13:09] Tetsuo : Looks bad
[2017-03-22 18:13:18] aethlios : DUUUUUUUUUUUMP
[2017-03-22 18:14:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 80000 @ 998.09 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-22 18:14:39] etoque : Tetsuo: look great
[2017-03-22 18:14:50] etoque : you're just on wrong side of trading
[2017-03-22 18:14:53] yooooD : damm i just bought at 1014
[2017-03-22 18:14:55] etoque : its altcoin season
[2017-03-22 18:15:09] etoque : believing too much btc will ruin you lol
[2017-03-22 18:15:16] DoubleU : ETH moving on up
[2017-03-22 18:15:59] yooooD : never played a derivative in my life
[2017-03-22 18:16:12] yooooD : I think ill be wiped out by EOD
[2017-03-22 18:16:19] DoubleU : yeah
[2017-03-22 18:16:25] DoubleU : gotta short to win
[2017-03-22 18:16:49] yooooD : Balls
[2017-03-22 18:17:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 250 @ 1010.45
[2017-03-22 18:18:12] yooooD : this is super addicting
[2017-03-22 18:18:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 1008.96
[2017-03-22 18:18:30] RoftheN : Yay more money
[2017-03-22 18:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3000 @ 1007.19
[2017-03-22 18:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 6836 @ 991.90
[2017-03-22 18:18:32] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2017-03-22 18:18:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12018 @ 1005.97
[2017-03-22 18:18:48] yooooD : damm i got liquidated
[2017-03-22 18:18:57] Tetsuo : FUKK UR LIFE BITKORNERS!
[2017-03-22 18:19:00] RoftheN : Damn this lag earned me 0.01 BTC
[2017-03-22 18:19:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200 @ 997.06
[2017-03-22 18:19:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 997.78
[2017-03-22 18:19:28] gustavo7 : 980 NEXT
[2017-03-22 18:19:50] MikeHunt : lovely
[2017-03-22 18:19:54] MikeHunt : another $25
[2017-03-22 18:19:57] MikeHunt : ooo
[2017-03-22 18:19:58] MikeHunt : $3
[2017-03-22 18:20:00] MikeHunt : 0
[2017-03-22 18:20:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 500 @ 0.040050
[2017-03-22 18:20:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1100 @ 999.44
[2017-03-22 18:20:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 998.44
[2017-03-22 18:20:43] yooooD : what time does this market close?
[2017-03-22 18:20:55] RoftheN : Which market?
[2017-03-22 18:20:59] yooooD : BTC
[2017-03-22 18:21:08] MikeHunt : yooooD: this aint stocks
[2017-03-22 18:21:13] RoftheN : Never?
[2017-03-22 18:21:15] MikeHunt : 24/7
[2017-03-22 18:21:21] yooooD : eww
[2017-03-22 18:21:27] RoftheN : Why is that eww?
[2017-03-22 18:21:48] yooooD : just crazy like that
[2017-03-22 18:22:11] RoftheN : What's crazy about it
[2017-03-22 18:22:25] RoftheN : I think it's so annoying that stock markets close so long
[2017-03-22 18:22:27] RoftheN : This is great
[2017-03-22 18:22:38] yooooD : thats its 24/7 so technically you can never be at peace if you have an open position
[2017-03-22 18:22:48] lugo : /price
[2017-03-22 18:22:50] j8 : i would definitely sleep more if markets closed
[2017-03-22 18:22:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1000.00 (-1.44%) Bitfinex : 998.30 (-1.89%) The Woodchipper : 1005.65 (-1.50%) itBit : 998.84 (-1.65%) Kraken : 993.36 (-1.69%) GDAX : 999.91 (-1.02%) SLQ : 54 mins```
[2017-03-22 18:23:04] Actualiteit : peace is for the weak, just as sleep.
[2017-03-22 18:23:13] Ahhere : RoftheN: better for sleeping tho but annoying if you awake and want to trade
[2017-03-22 18:24:05] yooooD : whats everyone month end forecast for BTC?
[2017-03-22 18:24:10] cryptoyolo : o the crashh
[2017-03-22 18:24:27] RoftheN : Just don't open a position at night then. Or be careful.
[2017-03-22 18:24:36] etoque : buy alt,its so simple guys
[2017-03-22 18:24:38] RoftheN : I think BTC will go down
[2017-03-22 18:24:43] cryptoyolo : u think?
[2017-03-22 18:24:44] Tetsuo : yooooD: 80$
[2017-03-22 18:24:46] RoftheN : Why alt, alts already went up so much
[2017-03-22 18:24:46] etoque : stop fighting with old granpa bitcoin
[2017-03-22 18:24:59] cryptoyolo : 990 finex
[2017-03-22 18:25:02] etoque : RoftheN: lol you dont get it
[2017-03-22 18:25:07] cryptoyolo : going to 950
[2017-03-22 18:25:09] etoque : trust me its just starting
[2017-03-22 18:25:13] etoque : btc going under 600 man
[2017-03-22 18:25:22] gustavo7 : false hope for 1000 holding
[2017-03-22 18:25:23] RoftheN : No way
[2017-03-22 18:25:24] RoftheN : That's crazy
[2017-03-22 18:25:27] RoftheN : maybe 700
[2017-03-22 18:25:28] etoque : nobody want to wait 8h for a confirmation
[2017-03-22 18:25:40] Ahhere : etoque: seems like a sensible target
[2017-03-22 18:25:43] Apocalyptic : the moon is not strong today
[2017-03-22 18:26:00] Ahhere : no point taking profit at 650 in your short
[2017-03-22 18:26:02] RoftheN : They should just come with a compromise hardfork increasing the blocksizes without the Bitoin unlimited crap. Maybe add segwit too if community agrees
[2017-03-22 18:26:03] etoque : lol I tell you your bullish attitude gonna ruin u
[2017-03-22 18:26:13] etoque : btc is totally bearish for who doesn't get it
[2017-03-22 18:26:55] RoftheN : I think it's bearish rn, but 600 is just extreme. Miners will start to buy and hold if they can. Big money might see a dip and join in. but 800 is realistic
[2017-03-22 18:27:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJH17`: sell 1000 @ 115347
[2017-03-22 18:27:49] etoque : RoftheN: face the fact BTC is useless in tech part
[2017-03-22 18:27:55] etoque : people just realise altcoin can overtake btc
[2017-03-22 18:28:05] etoque : future is not with btc anymore,better leave it from your head
[2017-03-22 18:28:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 993.66
[2017-03-22 18:28:14] RoftheN : It's not useless, just slow. It's still secure and will always be the first blockchain
[2017-03-22 18:28:24] etoque : btc rn just a support for gigantic rise coming in alt
[2017-03-22 18:28:27] lugo : _always_
[2017-03-22 18:28:27] RoftheN : Even if ETH surpasses BTC doesn't mean BTC will be uesless
[2017-03-22 18:28:38] etoque : with time yes
[2017-03-22 18:28:57] cryptoyolo : look at finex boot
[2017-03-22 18:29:00] cryptoyolo : so thin
[2017-03-22 18:29:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 992.29
[2017-03-22 18:29:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 13963 @ 979.67
[2017-03-22 18:29:39] RoftheN : So what do you guys think about the Lunyr project, a shame that they only accept expenive ETh thoug
[2017-03-22 18:30:07] etoque : RoftheN: etc token work for eth
[2017-03-22 18:30:11] etoque : its 2 buck lol
[2017-03-22 18:30:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.040330
[2017-03-22 18:30:36] etoque : Lol I feel I have advantage on everyone being 4 years here
[2017-03-22 18:30:45] RoftheN : This is 4 years old already?
[2017-03-22 18:30:50] etoque : no me
[2017-03-22 18:30:53] etoque : etc is 1yo
[2017-03-22 18:31:05] RoftheN : You're only 4 years old?!
[2017-03-22 18:31:12] etoque : experienced in crypto,yes
[2017-03-22 18:31:27] Nick Leeson : RoftheN: So far ETH is still air. Not designed to be used as currency, and still needs a killer dapp. But granted they do have a lot of development going.
[2017-03-22 18:31:28] RoftheN : I also started 4 years ago
[2017-03-22 18:31:31] RoftheN : but took a 2 year break
[2017-03-22 18:31:33] Ahhere : etoque: who was first .. laissez wasnt it?
[2017-03-22 18:31:37] RoftheN : Cuz I lost almost everything
[2017-03-22 18:31:48] etoque : Ahhere: ur french lol ?
[2017-03-22 18:32:20] etoque : RoftheN: you need to stop trading with emotion,a coin can be supper nice and other day a big shit,and you need to trade it that way
[2017-03-22 18:32:22] Ahhere : no but my computer autocorrecting to french for some reason. must have typed in french on this before
[2017-03-22 18:32:27] etoque : I made over 180 btc with 0
[2017-03-22 18:32:38] yooooD : whats the best alt coin to go long in?
[2017-03-22 18:32:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6999 @ 1006.19
[2017-03-22 18:32:47] etoque : fct news this week
[2017-03-22 18:32:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 1005.21
[2017-03-22 18:32:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 580 @ 1005.23
[2017-03-22 18:32:49] RoftheN : Trading without emotion is possible? What do I look like, a robot? A woman? Men can't trade without emotion
[2017-03-22 18:32:50] Tetsuo : Ahhere: maybe sleger hacked you, he´s French he does such things
[2017-03-22 18:32:51] etoque : ETC on a bullish ride
[2017-03-22 18:32:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1006.20
[2017-03-22 18:33:00] Ahhere : yooooD: btc!
[2017-03-22 18:33:09] etoque : every alt will be good,not complicate
[2017-03-22 18:33:23] RoftheN : But I will short BTC when I think it's goin down. It's just I think long term it will never be useless
[2017-03-22 18:33:40] etoque : we'll see,market always change
[2017-03-22 18:34:13] yooooD : okay i lost everything
[2017-03-22 18:34:16] yooooD : good night peeps
[2017-03-22 18:34:23] yooooD : i am out a whole $50
[2017-03-22 18:34:24] etoque : yooooD: lol buy alt make it all back
[2017-03-22 18:34:26] RoftheN : Gn
[2017-03-22 18:34:33] etoque : ez
[2017-03-22 18:34:45] yooooD : haha i do have .0017 left actually
[2017-03-22 18:35:01] Ahhere : alt = hot potato
[2017-03-22 18:35:21] rapidtrades : whats with these stupid bounces at every 50/00 level
[2017-03-22 18:35:21] etoque : lol ur wrong
[2017-03-22 18:35:42] RoftheN : Maybe it's bounces protecting against a crash and giving people time to sell out
[2017-03-22 18:35:43] etoque : alt is future,people will trade 'altcoin' in 10 years,not BTC
[2017-03-22 18:35:54] RoftheN : I still think both
[2017-03-22 18:35:55] etoque : BTC more slow than visa and all others and can't support scalability
[2017-03-22 18:35:57] RoftheN : And most alts will die
[2017-03-22 18:36:04] etoque : no future at all on btc
[2017-03-22 18:36:11] etoque : RoftheN: false
[2017-03-22 18:36:20] RoftheN : False?
[2017-03-22 18:36:23] etoque : if its correct all btc problem ?
[2017-03-22 18:36:28] RoftheN : I mean like MOST alts not all
[2017-03-22 18:36:29] etoque : People slowly catch it
[2017-03-22 18:36:31] Ahhere : etoque: visa works fine
[2017-03-22 18:36:41] etoque : RoftheN: ok thats better lol
[2017-03-22 18:36:53] etoque : RoftheN: but at this time,top 20 is pretty representative of good project
[2017-03-22 18:37:01] etoque : its not 2013 anymore with BBQ coin lol
[2017-03-22 18:37:02] RoftheN : Bitcoin has too many fans to die, even if Ethereumgets 200x higher marketcap, Bitcoin will trade above 200$
[2017-03-22 18:37:33] RoftheN : Etoque you might say that but there's still a shitload of shitcoins. Yobit is as lively as before. I bought some LSDcoin recently, it's still 1 satoshi
[2017-03-22 18:37:33] etoque : RoftheN: I dont say it'll die tomorrow,I say it'll won't be the principal choice in years coming
[2017-03-22 18:37:57] RoftheN : I think in 10 years BTC will still be above 200$ regardless of whether and altcoin has a marketcap of 5 trillion
[2017-03-22 18:38:12] etoque : right
[2017-03-22 18:38:14] RoftheN : Unless quantum computers cracked it or something
[2017-03-22 18:38:20] etoque : right again
[2017-03-22 18:38:56] RoftheN : Today I bought my first shares :D
[2017-03-22 18:38:58] rapidtrades : good to see ur views changed from 2k this year to $200 in few years
[2017-03-22 18:39:10] RoftheN : After trading cryptocurrencies for 4 years I'm gonna get some dividends
[2017-03-22 18:39:26] RoftheN : I said ATLEAST. And I also think BTC goes to 2K this year
[2017-03-22 18:39:33] yooooD : So if you guys had $100k what would you buy
[2017-03-22 18:39:38] etoque : forget that my friend
[2017-03-22 18:39:50] etoque : btc over 1500 mean single transaction cost over 10 dollars
[2017-03-22 18:39:57] etoque : that's just stupid
[2017-03-22 18:40:09] etoque : we will have 200k tx stuck everyday lol
[2017-03-22 18:40:12] RoftheN : That's true
[2017-03-22 18:40:38] etoque : btc reach is potential limit here,if you dont see it your blind that's all
[2017-03-22 18:40:52] abbey : told ya bulls 3 digits , just had to remind, sorry
[2017-03-22 18:40:52] RoftheN : I just hope a solution for that comes soon
[2017-03-22 18:41:02] etoque : RoftheN: bcu ?
[2017-03-22 18:41:10] RoftheN : No
[2017-03-22 18:41:12] RoftheN : A compromise hardfork
[2017-03-22 18:41:13] etoque : btc for sure this years is bearish
[2017-03-22 18:41:19] RoftheN : Bigger blocks and maybe segwit
[2017-03-22 18:41:32] RoftheN : Miners wouldn't like that though
[2017-03-22 18:41:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1004.28
[2017-03-22 18:41:55] etoque : took 8 years for btc dev to start maybe doing something,I don't have alot of faith into btc
[2017-03-22 18:41:59] RoftheN : But they're free to make their shitty BCU classic or whatever
[2017-03-22 18:42:11] MikeHunt : the fall of 950 will be interesting
[2017-03-22 18:43:12] rapidtrades : man there's a bunch of newbs doing newby things, its pissing me off
[2017-03-22 18:43:20] Ahhere : ok bears you had your fun smart ones will close positions soon and away we go
[2017-03-22 18:44:36] Rado : rapidtrades: where?
[2017-03-22 18:44:47] RoftheN : I actually hope BTC stays below 1500 for 2 years
[2017-03-22 18:44:54] RoftheN : And then shoots up to 8000+ at the next halving
[2017-03-22 18:45:14] abbey : RoftheN: impossible
[2017-03-22 18:45:18] RoftheN : Why?
[2017-03-22 18:45:23] Ahhere : RoftheN: who gonna care in 2 years
[2017-03-22 18:45:25] abbey : just is
[2017-03-22 18:45:44] Rado : abbey: there is no such thing
[2017-03-22 18:45:44] etoque : RoftheN: impossible
[2017-03-22 18:45:56] etoque : technically not possible,im sorry,its call dreaming lol,its ok we all dream
[2017-03-22 18:46:03] RoftheN : But by then I guess a hardfork is don
[2017-03-22 18:46:10] RoftheN : Techincally? Wtf why not
[2017-03-22 18:46:51] Ahhere : expecting bear silence soon enough
[2017-03-22 18:47:01] RoftheN : I think like this Ethereum. There will be rich groups accumulating bitcoins slowly and then suddenly pumping it up, keeping it up for a while and then slowly sell
[2017-03-22 18:47:13] RoftheN : And for that time they will pick an event like a Halvin
[2017-03-22 18:47:28] etoque : yes but we found BTC top dude,forget it btc to 1500
[2017-03-22 18:47:43] etoque : it will pump again between 200 and 1200
[2017-03-22 18:47:52] etoque : over this its technically impossible
[2017-03-22 18:47:57] RoftheN : No it won't repeat. BTc userbase is much bigger and millionaires are getting younger
[2017-03-22 18:48:20] etoque : yes sure,but who motherfucking care of btc when you have to wait 8h for a TX or paid +10 dollars for a single TX ?
[2017-03-22 18:48:26] etoque : Its more expensive than a bank
[2017-03-22 18:48:32] RoftheN : Also developing countries with high inflation are getting interested in it. Nigeria, Venezuela, Gambia. It will spread all over Africa
[2017-03-22 18:48:36] etoque : btc fighting bank ? my ass its an olygarchy
[2017-03-22 18:48:44] etoque : your a blind bull
[2017-03-22 18:48:52] etoque : like 80% of mex trader lol
[2017-03-22 18:48:56] RoftheN : I really think that if all blocks are full, suddenly people will agree faster to a hardfork
[2017-03-22 18:49:15] etoque : so btc is no more immutable
[2017-03-22 18:49:24] RoftheN : Atleast I'm not so blind that I won't short at all
[2017-03-22 18:49:28] etoque : conversation done we're looking for next btc
[2017-03-22 18:49:30] aethlios : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/606fz4/my_final_margin_call/
[2017-03-22 18:49:37] etoque : btc have already found itself
[2017-03-22 18:49:52] RoftheN : Bitcoin was already hardforked right. And immutable? It's not like we cancel a smartcontract or reverse a transaction, just improving it
[2017-03-22 18:50:03] etoque : will see
[2017-03-22 18:50:46] rapidtrades : aethlios: how much did he lose?
[2017-03-22 18:51:03] RoftheN : Damn that Dash short reminds me of my XMR short back then
[2017-03-22 18:51:10] RoftheN : But I didn't quit and now I'm back to where I was
[2017-03-22 18:51:13] aethlios : rapidtrades: he posted the margin call email from polo. 120 btc.
[2017-03-22 18:51:16] Ahhere : rapidtrades: 150 btc
[2017-03-22 18:51:22] DoubleU : aethlios: lol i guess they didnt know about roger
[2017-03-22 18:51:52] rapidtrades : dam that's rough
[2017-03-22 18:52:12] aethlios : DoubleU: this trade will be right when dash crash to 20, but never short a crypto, just long low and wait for the pump.
[2017-03-22 18:52:47] RoftheN : It's kinda amazing how smart the whales have been controlling pumps to dump slower and liquidating big shorts. I'm impressed with the evolving market manipulation
[2017-03-22 18:53:20] RoftheN : So who is that guy again, was he here too?
[2017-03-22 18:53:41] thegypsy : /sentiment
[2017-03-22 18:53:44] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 67.40 / 32.61 Daily : 56.15 / 43.86 Weekly : 55.66 / 44.34 Monthly : 52.39 / 47.61```
[2017-03-22 18:53:57] etoque : aethlios: +1
[2017-03-22 18:54:12] aethlios : RoftheN: whales when pump, they never retrace, so all shorts are constantly in loss, don't give you chance to close, then margin calls push price even higher.
[2017-03-22 18:54:14] etoque : aethlios: unless it spike like crazy in a very short time
[2017-03-22 18:54:19] etoque : and so,still risky lol
[2017-03-22 18:55:48] RoftheN : I think the best time is to short alts is if a pump is done and it's looking stable for a few days
[2017-03-22 18:56:05] RoftheN : And even then, low leverage and not too much
[2017-03-22 18:58:56] etoque : RoftheN: LOL
[2017-03-22 18:59:02] etoque : RoftheN: you'll finish ruin mate
[2017-03-22 18:59:10] etoque : RoftheN: altcoin starting a gigantic pump rn
[2017-03-22 18:59:24] etoque : why you stick so much on btc?
[2017-03-22 18:59:33] etoque : altcoin are so much better
[2017-03-22 18:59:33] RoftheN : I mean short term
[2017-03-22 18:59:35] RoftheN : look at Dash
[2017-03-22 18:59:46] RoftheN : it went to 0.125
[2017-03-22 18:59:51] hmmmYea : RoftheN: if I thought the markets were controlled by a omnipotent conspiracy, i prolly wouldn't trade at all.
[2017-03-22 18:59:55] RoftheN : I shorted around 0.120.0.125
[2017-03-22 19:00:00] RoftheN : to 0.1
[2017-03-22 19:00:01] RoftheN : then closed
[2017-03-22 19:00:11] etoque : who care dash,already took 10x,you think every other have take 10x too ? or they are not capable because it haven't done at same time ? this is a mistake,its call unpatience
[2017-03-22 19:00:30] etoque : trust me you'll finish ruin
[2017-03-22 19:00:30] Ahhere : etoque: etc the new btc?
[2017-03-22 19:00:39] RoftheN : Yes I think Dash won't go another 10x atleast not this year
[2017-03-22 19:00:45] etoque : The case is to make money,not make random affirmation
[2017-03-22 19:00:50] RoftheN : Too much competition, too less money
[2017-03-22 19:01:01] etoque : who know etc is next bitcoin,its pointing right north big time
[2017-03-22 19:01:05] RoftheN : Well it earned me some, just not much
[2017-03-22 19:01:42] RoftheN : But DASH won't be the new bitcoin. Too many good alternatives, XMR, Zcash
[2017-03-22 19:01:59] RoftheN : ETC however is the immutable ETH, so I can believe that, shorting ETC is more risky than shorting DASH
[2017-03-22 19:02:22] RoftheN : But problem with ETC is that the ETH foundation and the DAO thief own too much ETC
[2017-03-22 19:02:29] RoftheN : They can sell anytime
[2017-03-22 19:03:47] Ahhere : believing in etc is like buying a chinese fake iPhone and expecting customer support
[2017-03-22 19:04:49] cryptoyolo : short now
[2017-03-22 19:04:56] cryptoyolo : close at 950 easy money
[2017-03-22 19:05:28] Ahhere : plan is "lets copy eth". nice
[2017-03-22 19:06:09] etoque : Ahhere: LOL https://grayscale.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Grayscale-Ethereum-Classic-Investment-Thesis-March-2017.pdf
[2017-03-22 19:06:14] etoque : don't be that stupid
[2017-03-22 19:06:22] etoque : ETC have more potential than ETH
[2017-03-22 19:06:35] Ahhere : now who is being stupid.
[2017-03-22 19:06:45] etoque : im serious
[2017-03-22 19:06:48] Ahhere : etc = joke
[2017-03-22 19:07:01] etoque : keep fudding,im happy,we talk of ETC
[2017-03-22 19:07:15] etoque : I lived people trolling dash and take 10x,set your seatbelt noob
[2017-03-22 19:08:01] Ahhere : oh it will probably pump, but like dash, it is a joke just don't get stuck holding that piece of trash and don't belive your bullshit
[2017-03-22 19:08:16] etoque : LOL
[2017-03-22 19:08:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 1002.92
[2017-03-22 19:08:21] etoque : you're the trash trading only btc
[2017-03-22 19:08:25] etoque : noob
[2017-03-22 19:08:41] etoque : diversity is good
[2017-03-22 19:08:43] Ahhere : not noob babes
[2017-03-22 19:09:01] etoque : lets see who make more money
[2017-03-22 19:09:43] Oak : how is it - how does the future contracts settle in case of a hard fork?
[2017-03-22 19:10:00] Ahhere : etoque: im not on leaderboard, are u?
[2017-03-22 19:10:20] etoque : just been 2 week im here lol patience
[2017-03-22 19:10:34] Ahhere : thought u said 4 years?
[2017-03-22 19:10:39] etoque : in crypto
[2017-03-22 19:10:44] etoque : bitmex is new for me
[2017-03-22 19:10:45] Ahhere : lol
[2017-03-22 19:10:57] etoque : and very profitable from now lol
[2017-03-22 19:11:13] yooooD : do you guys have backgrounds in trading
[2017-03-22 19:11:16] RoftheN : The only problem with ETC is that the ETH devs/foundation own more ETC than they own ETH
[2017-03-22 19:11:16] etoque : just load a 0.2 2 week ago im up 2 btc now,slowly but surely
[2017-03-22 19:11:37] RoftheN : @yooooD did'nt you go to sleep?
[2017-03-22 19:11:45] yooooD : no im about to reload
[2017-03-22 19:11:45] Ahhere : thats a good roe
[2017-03-22 19:12:07] etoque : I love bitmex
[2017-03-22 19:12:16] RoftheN : I bought a BRIC ETF recently
[2017-03-22 19:12:46] Ahhere : yeah bitmex = best btc trading platform
[2017-03-22 19:13:03] RoftheN : I probably am still on a bitmex loss, but I'm getting close to a breakeven
[2017-03-22 19:13:04] Ahhere : *derivative trading platform lol
[2017-03-22 19:13:18] Tux26 : /sentiment
[2017-03-22 19:13:21] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.42 / 33.58 Daily : 56.32 / 43.68 Weekly : 55.68 / 44.33 Monthly : 52.40 / 47.60```
[2017-03-22 19:13:26] yooooD : how much do you guys generally leverage
[2017-03-22 19:13:27] RoftheN : But yeah I love Bitmex. I hope someone creates a Bitmex for elements/minerals
[2017-03-22 19:14:12] RoftheN : I like to stay around 10x for Bitcoin, but rn I'm only short x5
[2017-03-22 19:14:43] yooooD : bTC is so volatile it wiped me out
[2017-03-22 19:16:52] RoftheN : Good that you start with only 50$ then
[2017-03-22 19:16:58] Ahhere : yooooD: got to be liquid or close early
[2017-03-22 19:17:42] yooooD : i actually had 50 in a random wallet that was years old
[2017-03-22 19:17:48] yooooD : clicked some link it took me here
[2017-03-22 19:17:54] RoftheN : Nice
[2017-03-22 19:17:58] RoftheN : And lucky
[2017-03-22 19:17:59] yooooD : so i said why not press some buttons and play
[2017-03-22 19:18:18] RoftheN : You can also play Poker with bitcoins by the wa
[2017-03-22 19:19:40] yooooD : Owell im going long on ETH
[2017-03-22 19:19:42] yooooD : praying for the best
[2017-03-22 19:24:26] Ahhere : lol fines at 999 someone call the paramedics
[2017-03-22 19:24:38] Ahhere : lets bring this thing back to live
[2017-03-22 19:24:41] Ahhere : *life
[2017-03-22 19:25:36] DoubleU : finex and stamp have a lot of support
[2017-03-22 19:25:49] DoubleU : 7000 btc need to be sold to hit 850
[2017-03-22 19:26:17] Ahhere : shhh ver will hear u!
[2017-03-22 19:26:38] Ahhere : the big bad verwhale
[2017-03-22 19:26:54] thomaskikansha : bids can be pulled though
[2017-03-22 19:29:35] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-03-22 19:29:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 4000 @ 1002.54
[2017-03-22 19:30:29] DoubleU : buyers are back
[2017-03-22 19:30:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 1013.47
[2017-03-22 19:30:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 1012.50
[2017-03-22 19:30:41] Ahhere : oh watch out
[2017-03-22 19:31:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 200 @ 1015.78
[2017-03-22 19:31:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 600 @ 1014.84
[2017-03-22 19:31:15] Ahhere : DoubleU: i done been here buy-in bro it was lonely and sad not gonna lie
[2017-03-22 19:31:49] RoftheN : oh it went up
[2017-03-22 19:31:50] RoftheN : nice
[2017-03-22 19:31:52] RoftheN : now I can short more
[2017-03-22 19:35:27] Ahhere : bitcoin ded :( its official
[2017-03-22 19:35:36] Ahhere : dont buy
[2017-03-22 19:37:49] Winklevoss : are we lagging?
[2017-03-22 19:38:39] RocketScience : what t buyyyy?
[2017-03-22 19:39:05] RocketScience : dollars or alts
[2017-03-22 19:39:08] Winklevoss : Stamp and Bfnx are under 1017
[2017-03-22 19:39:39] RocketScience : Chinacoin is higher
[2017-03-22 19:39:47] Ahhere : pros watch btc-e
[2017-03-22 19:40:10] Ahhere : just 1057
[2017-03-22 19:40:34] RocketScience : i hope etc crashes so ican btfd
[2017-03-22 19:41:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 36 @ 0.040050
[2017-03-22 19:43:07] etoque : lol short this shitass bitcoin
[2017-03-22 19:43:29] Ahhere : etoque: :)
[2017-03-22 19:43:58] RocketScience : 2000 tommorow :D
[2017-03-22 19:44:18] RocketScience : then we halve it to 1000 on both chain
[2017-03-22 19:49:02] yooooD : when will they know about the fork?
[2017-03-22 19:49:32] yooooD : sorry for being such a noob
[2017-03-22 19:49:48] yooooD : im good at my real work IRL
[2017-03-22 19:50:32] Tetsuo : flippin burgers?
[2017-03-22 19:50:34] Tetsuo : :-)
[2017-03-22 19:51:43] yooooD : real estate but thanks im Vegetarian
[2017-03-22 19:52:15] Dynamix : Btc to 990 ;D
[2017-03-22 19:52:27] etoque : <800
[2017-03-22 19:53:11] yooooD : also what do you consider a good ROE to liquidate?
[2017-03-22 19:55:16] Ahhere : buy!!
[2017-03-22 19:55:17] mark121 : fkn shameless
[2017-03-22 19:56:44] mark121 : pathetic
[2017-03-22 20:01:16] etoque : LOL
[2017-03-22 20:01:23] etoque : everyone have open a short ? great
[2017-03-22 20:02:02] Ahhere : thanks for the fudning guise
[2017-03-22 20:02:23] Ahhere : as the late great goat would say
[2017-03-22 20:07:49] yooooD : this is getting boring
[2017-03-22 20:07:58] etoque : Ahhere: u noob
[2017-03-22 20:08:13] etoque : Ahhere: wait till it crashe again
[2017-03-22 20:08:32] etoque : with all respect
[2017-03-22 20:09:37] Ahhere : etoque: i not noob gf
[2017-03-22 20:09:51] etoque : ahah dont be mad
[2017-03-22 20:10:12] yooooD : ETH is so slow
[2017-03-22 20:10:13] etoque : you are too much on very short term patern
[2017-03-22 20:10:15] yooooD : ugg
[2017-03-22 20:10:34] etoque : btc still going to crash,not because it bounce 20 dollar from 1000 its finish lool
[2017-03-22 20:11:27] etoque : people slowly realise btc,as a coin,is useless(blockchain is cool,but any company can create their own + altcoin definitively killing btc)
[2017-03-22 20:11:37] etoque : open your eyes lol
[2017-03-22 20:12:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 101 @ 1012.86
[2017-03-22 20:12:15] etoque : in 5 years people will trade btc like ltc,just on side movement from next big one
[2017-03-22 20:12:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1250 @ 1010.36
[2017-03-22 20:13:07] etoque : Ahhere: I tell you
[2017-03-22 20:13:22] etoque : don'T focalize on very short term move
[2017-03-22 20:13:29] Ahhere : etoque: ok guy
[2017-03-22 20:18:26] Actualiteit : etoque: jesusfuckdude, youre still fudding?
[2017-03-22 20:18:41] Actualiteit : youve been at it for what, 3 hours now?
[2017-03-22 20:19:37] Tetsuo : pff 3h, amateur
[2017-03-22 20:19:51] Tetsuo : i´ve been fudding since 3+ years
[2017-03-22 20:21:58] yooooD : any words of wisdom after 3+ years?
[2017-03-22 20:22:44] Tetsuo : buy low sell high
[2017-03-22 20:23:21] jayesh : really a great advice
[2017-03-22 20:23:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1011.96
[2017-03-22 20:24:19] jayesh : etoque: BTC has more use than LTC. you are wrong. BU will be left behind. After Segwit, BTC will boom
[2017-03-22 20:24:40] etoque : lol
[2017-03-22 20:24:52] etoque : for you altcoin is represent by LTC ?
[2017-03-22 20:24:58] etoque : You're out of the game dude
[2017-03-22 20:25:04] etoque : stupid btc trader don't know anything :)
[2017-03-22 20:25:14] jayesh : we will see
[2017-03-22 20:25:50] etoque : ltc is the shit ass one out of the sea
[2017-03-22 20:25:59] etoque : the most shittiest crypto ever create
[2017-03-22 20:26:03] etoque : after btc
[2017-03-22 20:26:17] etoque : evolution guys.... market evolving
[2017-03-22 20:26:27] etoque : thing change
[2017-03-22 20:27:02] jayesh : :D
[2017-03-22 20:28:14] yooooD : buy?
[2017-03-22 20:29:10] jayesh : yooooD: Never ask advice in trollbox
[2017-03-22 20:29:32] aron : hiii
[2017-03-22 20:29:35] aron : why is btc so down
[2017-03-22 20:30:26] aron : something i dont know about?
[2017-03-22 20:30:38] yooooD : yes a fork
[2017-03-22 20:30:48] aron : but we knew it was happening
[2017-03-22 20:30:50] DoubleU : aron: people are taking profits
[2017-03-22 20:30:59] aron : how they taking profits?
[2017-03-22 20:31:39] sleger : selling their wives
[2017-03-22 20:31:57] aron : nice
[2017-03-22 20:31:59] jayesh : aron: lol ma n
[2017-03-22 20:32:04] aron : i mean they were shorting it?
[2017-03-22 20:32:17] aron : we all knew fork was gonna happen
[2017-03-22 20:32:23] aron : why they take profit and not me :(
[2017-03-22 20:32:29] aguia7 : etoque: falou pouco mas falou merda
[2017-03-22 20:32:43] aron : did we know the time of fork?
[2017-03-22 20:32:48] etoque : lollll
[2017-03-22 20:32:49] etoque : dont be mad
[2017-03-22 20:33:17] aron : i am mad
[2017-03-22 20:33:26] aron : i knew about fork but i no profit
[2017-03-22 20:33:26] etoque : BTC preserve olygarchy,not fair distribution,not immutable,full of tech problem...
[2017-03-22 20:33:32] sleger : aron: why you mad ?
[2017-03-22 20:33:36] etoque : no scalability
[2017-03-22 20:33:37] sleger : bitcoin is almost at its highest
[2017-03-22 20:33:45] aron : sleger its lowest
[2017-03-22 20:33:48] aron : 1200
[2017-03-22 20:33:50] aron : was normal
[2017-03-22 20:33:58] etoque : lol
[2017-03-22 20:34:06] aron : sleger i didnt short at 1100
[2017-03-22 20:34:13] aron : even though i knew fork will happen
[2017-03-22 20:34:15] hmmmYea : this is a great read
[2017-03-22 20:34:16] hmmmYea : https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-surpasses-1115-recovers-from-scaling-debate-pboc-talks
[2017-03-22 20:34:18] aron : but i didnt know time
[2017-03-22 20:34:23] etoque : you just trade blindly,but you don't see more expensive btc = more unusable as a currency
[2017-03-22 20:34:55] etoque : more butthurt people
[2017-03-22 20:35:07] etoque : anyway,soon you'll see it crash well to realise it
[2017-03-22 20:35:14] etoque : well enough
[2017-03-22 20:35:29] aron : when will it crash?
[2017-03-22 20:35:39] aron : 1000 is price after fork
[2017-03-22 20:35:39] etoque : its in progress
[2017-03-22 20:35:42] aron : so no more crash
[2017-03-22 20:35:46] aron : buy buy buy
[2017-03-22 20:35:53] etoque : its just resistance,it will be blow with patience
[2017-03-22 20:36:00] RocketScience : Sleger: dollar or which alts? to weather the drama
[2017-03-22 20:36:10] gustavo7 : /fork
[2017-03-22 20:36:11] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 702.10 (-5.73%) Bitfinex BCU : 301.81 (-1.01%) SLQ : 6 hours, 40 mins```
[2017-03-22 20:36:11] etoque : again,no single reason to buy btc
[2017-03-22 20:36:19] etoque : btc have reach his potential limit