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[2015-11-21 20:35:49] jung1 : make some default settings like begginer trater, basic and pro
[2015-11-21 20:37:10] jung1 : rapidtrades: thats for sure but if someone came here and see 15 types of orders, 20 contracts entry, mark price, premiums etc
[2015-11-21 20:37:18] jung1 : will not leave money here
[2015-11-21 20:37:24] jung1 : easly
[2015-11-21 20:40:19] rapidtrades : jung1: meh that's your opinion
[2015-11-21 20:42:05] rapidtrades : more stuff will make it seem high tech, more professional
[2015-11-21 20:42:38] rapidtrades : (like default order sizes )
[2015-11-21 20:42:57] messiaen8844 : yeah
[2015-11-21 20:42:59] messiaen8844 : http://justaddwater.dk/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/wgetgui-screenshot.png
[2015-11-21 20:43:38] rapidtrades : not clicking any domains .dk
[2015-11-21 22:23:31] jung1 : meh
[2015-11-21 22:23:39] jung1 : another boring trading hours
[2015-11-21 22:47:57] zanza : BitMEX_Sam: I am having problems with the withdrawl page
[2015-11-21 22:51:19] zanza : are you blocking withdrawls now?
[2015-11-21 23:34:41] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: Absolutely not, there's a bug with the button. Will fix immediately
[2015-11-22 00:09:07] jung1 : will we break 2100?
[2015-11-22 00:09:44] sleger : the probability of that is over 99.9%
[2015-11-22 00:10:10] jung1 : still risk
[2015-11-22 00:10:17] wurstgelee : because we already did break 2100? oO
[2015-11-22 00:10:36] sleger : you said "will we" so no, and then it would be 100%...
[2015-11-22 00:10:54] sleger : no, it's because he forgot to mention something very important
[2015-11-22 00:11:24] jung1 : 2103 is still nor shure
[2015-11-22 00:11:31] sleger : so if bitcoin price follows a brownian motion, then mathematically it is exactly 100%
[2015-11-22 00:11:52] jung1 : agree
[2015-11-22 00:12:30] sleger : well it's a fact, not really something you can have an opinion on
[2015-11-22 00:13:09] jung1 : sorry
[2015-11-22 00:13:59] jung1 : can we still be friends or this faux pa is too much for you?
[2015-11-22 00:14:57] sleger : faux paS
[2015-11-22 00:15:00] sleger : now it's too late
[2015-11-22 00:15:35] jung1 : ://///
[2015-11-22 00:15:41] j8 : this is sleger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IvWoQplqXQ
[2015-11-22 00:18:51] sleger : technically that's spelling not grammar
[2015-11-22 00:19:02] jung1 : http://i.imgur.com/xewKtB4.jpg is comming
[2015-11-22 00:19:40] sleger : when you become a bescherelle black belt we can be friends
[2015-11-22 00:20:50] jung1 : who told you that I want to be your friend?
[2015-11-22 00:22:54] jung1 : http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34872563
[2015-11-22 00:28:59] miratrader : BitMEX_Sam: thank you for notification settings and collapsible panels, very useful! those order notifications were driving me crazy :-)
[2015-11-22 00:32:11] jung1 : going to be red
[2015-11-22 00:36:05] jung1 : http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/china-declares-war-isis-after-6862200 china joins to the party
[2015-11-22 00:44:27] jung1 : eh ok Im taking short and going sleep
[2015-11-22 00:49:08] zanza : etherix I think requested the collapsable panel, good for smartphone usage
[2015-11-22 00:54:27] miratrader : zanza: good for desktop too. I never use BitMEX chart and it takes up 1/3 of the screen space.
[2015-11-22 00:55:13] zanza : am I the only one who uses simple? lol
[2015-11-22 00:57:36] miratrader : I would probably use basic but it doesn't have margin info and bids/asks are not side-by-side, can't get used to it
[2015-11-22 00:58:28] zanza : i thought yoru bot does all the work? mr 17
[2015-11-22 00:58:30] zanza : :)
[2015-11-22 01:01:36] miratrader : I use multiple accounts and I do some manual trading from time to time. This account has 0 balance, it's just for chat.
[2015-11-22 01:02:52] miratrader : maybe I'm paranoid but I don't like to chat from any real accounts :-)
[2015-11-22 01:03:27] miratrader : 17 bot has its own account BTW :-)
[2015-11-22 01:05:52] zanza : smart
[2015-11-22 01:11:15] messiaen8844 : how is your 17 bot doing?
[2015-11-22 01:11:24] messiaen8844 : probably very well in those conditions lol
[2015-11-22 01:14:32] rapidtrades : miratrader: how do I make multiple accounts
[2015-11-22 01:14:42] rapidtrades : is it within teh rulez
[2015-11-22 01:17:47] miratrader : messiaen8844: the bot is doing OK but not making 1000% profit per day for some reason :-)
[2015-11-22 01:18:03] messiaen8844 : perhaps it needs 18 contracts?
[2015-11-22 01:18:39] miratrader : I guess I have to change it to the next prime number :-)
[2015-11-22 01:19:14] rapidtrades : miratrader: did u code it urself
[2015-11-22 01:19:27] messiaen8844 : no, make it the 21 bot
[2015-11-22 01:19:31] messiaen8844 : 21bot.co
[2015-11-22 01:19:42] miratrader : rapidtrades: I asked support for permission before making multiple accounts. Used different emails
[2015-11-22 01:20:24] miratrader : nice, I like 21bot.com
[2015-11-22 01:21:29] rapidtrades : so is it com or co
[2015-11-22 01:21:35] miratrader : I will port it to Raspberry PI and sell it in a nice case for $500 :-)
[2015-11-22 01:22:02] rapidtrades : miratrader: I'll buy it and take a loooong dump on it
[2015-11-22 01:22:06] rapidtrades : I hate that 17 bot
[2015-11-22 01:23:29] miratrader : and it will make less BTC than the electricity cost, just like the 21 Bitcoin Computer :-)
[2015-11-22 01:23:45] miratrader : rapidtrades: it was a joke, reference to https://21.co/
[2015-11-22 01:24:49] rapidtrades : a joke huh...it wasn't funny but okay
[2015-11-22 01:26:17] miratrader : rapidtrades: if you don't want to see those small asks/bids, click on the gear icon on top of the orderbook and click + to enable orderbook grouping
[2015-11-22 01:27:04] messiaen8844 : lol mira
[2015-11-22 01:27:17] messiaen8844 : people may boy it
[2015-11-22 01:27:26] messiaen8844 : *buy
[2015-11-22 01:27:37] messiaen8844 : GET-RICH box
[2015-11-22 01:27:53] messiaen8844 : just don't place it on a metal surface?
[2015-11-22 01:31:01] miratrader : get-rich-quick box with guaranteed daily income :-) <i>NO REFUNDS</i> if doesn't work than your internet is too slow
[2015-11-22 01:52:57] rapidtrades : miratrader: god damit sir
[2015-11-22 01:56:18] rapidtrades : that's a nice premium on the weekly no
[2015-11-22 02:29:57] rapidtrades : if commission rounded up?
[2015-11-22 02:30:09] rapidtrades : I didn't get charged commish on a small trade
[2015-11-22 02:31:07] rapidtrades : did I get charged and it just doesn;t show it or I didn't get charged at all @miratrader
[2015-11-22 02:31:40] rapidtrades : u should know mister 17 contracts
[2015-11-22 02:33:24] miratrader : if it was an order sitting on the books you weren't charged. maker fee is 0%
[2015-11-22 02:34:05] rapidtrades : miratrader: it wasn't jezzz
[2015-11-22 02:34:25] rapidtrades : I planned it to be but I entered 326 instead of 327 :(
[2015-11-22 02:34:57] rapidtrades : bitmex can I has refund?
[2015-11-22 02:35:16] rapidtrades : I've been Gemined
[2015-11-22 02:35:26] miratrader : then commission was too small to show up, you can switch currency display to mXBT to check
[2015-11-22 02:35:41] rapidtrades : ah thanks
[2015-11-22 02:36:16] rapidtrades : miratrader: yep raped
[2015-11-22 02:42:15] ethexio : Whee
[2015-11-22 02:46:12] ethexio : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for listening to my request for collapsible sections last night, or maybe it was Wally. That rocks you guys just knocked it out.
[2015-11-22 02:46:43] rapidtrades : ethexio: booo...not thrilled with the changes
[2015-11-22 02:47:32] ethexio : rapidtrades: don't collapse them then? What other changes? I'm just looking over site now for the day
[2015-11-22 02:48:44] rapidtrades : ethexio: I need to expand them bro...and I keep getting confused on which buttons to click
[2015-11-22 02:48:57] rapidtrades : extand orderbook.collapse orderbook
[2015-11-22 02:49:40] miratrader : talk to Sam, all panels should be expanded by default
[2015-11-22 02:50:08] rapidtrades : miratrader: don't understand
[2015-11-22 02:50:09] ethexio : + / - are pretty standard UI hints. All of mine are expanded by default.
[2015-11-22 02:50:18] rapidtrades : orderbook only shows 5 orders if not extanded
[2015-11-22 02:50:45] ethexio : Change grouping
[2015-11-22 02:50:52] rapidtrades : nope
[2015-11-22 02:51:23] Yumi : you can switch to advanced layout to see more of orderbook
[2015-11-22 02:51:27] miratrader : after you refresh the browser all panels should be expanded. if they are not there is a bug and you should tell BitMEX_Sam about it
[2015-11-22 02:51:59] ethexio : I've only ever seen 5 orders on each side of order book
[2015-11-22 02:52:13] Yumi : in basic layout you only see 5
[2015-11-22 02:52:16] ethexio : Try clearing browser cache and refresh
[2015-11-22 02:52:26] Yumi : in advanced 10
[2015-11-22 02:52:40] rapidtrades : how do I show advanced
[2015-11-22 02:52:41] ethexio : Yeah
[2015-11-22 02:53:12] Yumi : right top corner expande menu next to your username
[2015-11-22 02:53:16] ethexio : Radio button under your settings, click your username
[2015-11-22 02:54:10] ethexio : I like the recent trades moved under open positions panel
[2015-11-22 02:54:17] rapidtrades : I still see 5 only
[2015-11-22 02:54:32] ethexio : I can actually see everything I need without scrolling on mobile.
[2015-11-22 02:55:01] miratrader : rapidtrades, are you on mobile?
[2015-11-22 02:55:07] rapidtrades : nope
[2015-11-22 02:55:44] miratrader : maybe browser window too small?
[2015-11-22 02:56:27] rapidtrades : maybe
[2015-11-22 02:57:07] Yumi : did you select advanced layout?
[2015-11-22 02:57:13] rapidtrades : YES
[2015-11-22 02:58:48] rapidtrades : market makers keeping prices high here
[2015-11-22 03:01:12] miratrader : not very high, the index is 326.14. MM adds like 0% daily
[2015-11-22 03:01:43] miratrader : * 0.2% daily interest
[2015-11-22 03:04:52] rapidtrades : it's just annoying...i'd rather be in bed
[2015-11-22 03:16:03] rapidtrades : do I have to wait 9 hours to collect my premium?
[2015-11-22 03:22:09] billyboy402 : does any one know , the time on the "history and order " are they UTC time or local time time
[2015-11-22 03:22:39] HotDogs : Local
[2015-11-22 03:22:40] rapidtrades : prolly computer time
[2015-11-22 03:22:49] billyboy402 : cool tahnks
[2015-11-22 03:23:20] rapidtrades : tahnks for asking
[2015-11-22 03:24:12] rapidtrades : god damint another misclick
[2015-11-22 03:24:40] rapidtrades : why does the limit price keep changing? f*uck this needs to be fixed asap
[2015-11-22 03:25:38] rapidtrades : the limit price should stay right where I left it ffs
[2015-11-22 03:26:54] rapidtrades : ok im out for today this is frustrating the hell out of me
[2015-11-22 03:44:27] zanza : <blink>RAGE QUIT<blink>
[2015-11-22 03:59:57] floopfloop : lol rapidtrades is an idiot
[2015-11-22 04:00:21] zanza : hey floopfloop
[2015-11-22 04:00:39] floopfloop : This is rapidtrades : http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/auto-forrest-gump-349816.jpeg
[2015-11-22 04:00:52] floopfloop : Hey, ill be back in like 2 hours @zanza
[2015-11-22 04:02:19] zanza : i haven't done trading today been afk mostly
[2015-11-22 04:57:43] zanza : im confused on price now
[2015-11-22 05:09:35] brynsolomon : hi does anyone know for XBT24H is there an opening print?
[2015-11-22 05:11:16] brynsolomon : looks like 163k contracts traded @ 12:00UTC....how do i submit an order to go in the print / does it attract a taker fee?
[2015-11-22 05:16:45] brynsolomon : anyone anyone bueller?
[2015-11-22 05:32:41] floopfloop : brynsolomon: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBT7D
[2015-11-22 05:36:33] brynsolomon : sorry don't understand how that answers the question about opening print on XBT24H
[2015-11-22 05:38:12] BitMEX_Wally : brynsolomon: There is no opening print, that 163k is the daily settlement
[2015-11-22 05:38:24] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. every position being closed at the settlement price, and paying the taker fee
[2015-11-22 05:38:25] brynsolomon : aahh ok thanks
[2015-11-22 05:38:34] brynsolomon : appreciate it
[2015-11-22 05:45:03] floopfloop : brynsolomon: I thought you meant opening point as in typo
[2015-11-22 06:00:25] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: I can't seem to add margin to an isolated XBT24H position?
[2015-11-22 06:02:35] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: it says: ", amount is a required arg"
[2015-11-22 06:02:42] AudibleScience : ???
[2015-11-22 06:03:12] podizzler3k : sup traders
[2015-11-22 06:03:38] zanza : podizzler3k: hi
[2015-11-22 06:04:32] AudibleScience : podizzler3k: hey man
[2015-11-22 06:06:22] AudibleScience : podizzler3k: how's it looking to you?
[2015-11-22 06:17:10] zanza : slow day
[2015-11-22 06:21:15] rapidtrades : looks lke 325 is key now
[2015-11-22 06:21:22] rapidtrades : if we break it poof
[2015-11-22 06:26:48] rapidtrades : looks like some market maker is trapped in longs
[2015-11-22 06:27:03] rapidtrades : desperate to keep prices high here
[2015-11-22 06:28:23] rapidtrades : looks like I said looks like in the span of 6 mins, sry about that
[2015-11-22 06:28:43] rapidtrades : *twice
[2015-11-22 06:29:02] zanza : i thought you were out rapidtrades ?
[2015-11-22 06:29:15] rapidtrades : zanza: i took a nap, back and short
[2015-11-22 06:29:59] podizzler3k : i think someone wants to keep it above 2100
[2015-11-22 06:30:16] podizzler3k : or at 2100
[2015-11-22 06:30:21] rapidtrades : no I meant specifically on this exchange
[2015-11-22 06:30:36] rapidtrades : we're way below 2100 anyway
[2015-11-22 06:30:46] podizzler3k : my point is it will return to 2100
[2015-11-22 06:30:55] rapidtrades : I wouldn't bet on it
[2015-11-22 06:31:07] podizzler3k : i would
[2015-11-22 06:31:22] rapidtrades : well place ur trade buddy :)
[2015-11-22 06:33:10] podizzler3k : i dont trade 10cny swings id go insane if i did
[2015-11-22 06:33:26] podizzler3k : probably die of exhaustion in a month
[2015-11-22 06:34:04] rapidtrades : rest us for the weak :)
[2015-11-22 06:34:50] zanza : today is the slowest day in a while
[2015-11-22 06:36:31] rapidtrades : scalping heaven :)
[2015-11-22 06:37:28] rapidtrades : hope this premium collapses soon...I have shit to do
[2015-11-22 06:39:03] zanza : u want to buy or sell ?
[2015-11-22 06:39:11] rapidtrades : I'm already short
[2015-11-22 06:39:22] zanza : so buy to close
[2015-11-22 06:39:32] zanza : you could let it expire
[2015-11-22 06:39:45] rapidtrades : we're too high....I prefer to go to expiry atm yeah
[2015-11-22 06:41:36] rapidtrades : zanza: what do u think about je premium on weekly? high or normal?
[2015-11-22 06:42:56] rapidtrades : seems a bit rich for 5 days but I'm new here so idk
[2015-11-22 07:08:09] zanza : weekly is low premium @rapidtrades
[2015-11-22 07:08:26] zanza : well, too low for me
[2015-11-22 07:08:30] zanza : maybe its about right
[2015-11-22 07:15:45] rapidtrades : zanza: its $4 for 5 days
[2015-11-22 07:15:52] rapidtrades : that's about right?
[2015-11-22 07:16:49] rapidtrades : zanza: how long have u been trading here?
[2015-11-22 07:24:18] podizzler3k : since 2006
[2015-11-22 07:46:36] ethexio : no
[2015-11-22 07:53:11] zanza : rapidtrades: forever
[2015-11-22 07:53:15] zanza : since sept
[2015-11-22 08:49:00] rapidtrades : this guy is rly pushing things to the wirse isn't he
[2015-11-22 08:49:14] rapidtrades : 3 hours and stil premium
[2015-11-22 08:49:31] rapidtrades : *to the wire
[2015-11-22 08:51:37] zanza : who ?
[2015-11-22 08:52:17] rapidtrades : zanza: this market makes that's stuck in longs
[2015-11-22 08:52:28] zanza : we saw 328.58 today I believe
[2015-11-22 08:52:36] zanza : so its possible
[2015-11-22 08:52:43] rapidtrades : what's possible
[2015-11-22 08:53:16] rapidtrades : zanza: its YOU isn't it?
[2015-11-22 08:55:47] ethexio : rip tradersway
[2015-11-22 08:56:02] rapidtrades : ethexio: whos tradersway
[2015-11-22 08:56:24] ethexio : forex bucketshop
[2015-11-22 08:56:32] rapidtrades : ethexio: oh no..
[2015-11-22 08:57:20] rapidtrades : deaded?
[2015-11-22 08:58:38] zanza : link?
[2015-11-22 08:59:49] rapidtrades : we're overdue for a sharp correction imo
[2015-11-22 09:00:06] zanza : http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/tradersway-forex-broker-is-a-scammer.21954/
[2015-11-22 09:00:10] zanza : up or down rapidtrades
[2015-11-22 09:00:16] rapidtrades : down
[2015-11-22 09:01:44] zanza : actually, that link I posted was kind of debunked, read fuirther down the link TradersWay responds
[2015-11-22 09:01:54] zanza : so how should i take advantage of that rapidtrades ?
[2015-11-22 09:02:06] rapidtrades : short
[2015-11-22 09:02:26] rapidtrades : actually I would short, I can't tell u what to do :)
[2015-11-22 09:04:35] rapidtrades : wth...there's smth orange in my washing room
[2015-11-22 09:04:50] rapidtrades : *washing machine
[2015-11-22 09:05:24] rapidtrades : I don't own anything orange....what the hell is that
[2015-11-22 09:06:48] rapidtrades : damit this is gonna bug me for 2 hours until the washing is done
[2015-11-22 09:07:07] zanza : 2 hour :o
[2015-11-22 09:07:40] rapidtrades : zanza: what
[2015-11-22 09:19:52] rapidtrades : cmon baby...50 cents more....
[2015-11-22 09:59:42] BitMEX_Wally : Just a reminder that we have 90 minutes of scheduled downtime after settlement today
[2015-11-22 09:59:52] zanza : k
[2015-11-22 10:00:13] rapidtrades : great tnx, I need a break
[2015-11-22 10:00:17] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-11-22 10:03:52] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: is the weekend usually this slow? any data on this
[2015-11-22 10:04:11] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we scheduled the downtime for the quietest period
[2015-11-22 10:04:19] rapidtrades : ah okay
[2015-11-22 10:07:28] ayy lmao : inb4 bitcoin moves $50 in those 90 minutes
[2015-11-22 10:07:35] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: I have a problem with the platform...say I'm trying to place a trade at 324.XX when I expand the orderbook the limit price often changes to the current price so now it would be 325.XX
[2015-11-22 10:08:16] rapidtrades : this causes a lot of mistakes...the limit price should stay the same and not change
[2015-11-22 10:08:36] BitMEX_Wally : If you click on a price in the order book it updates the Limit Price box in the order control
[2015-11-22 10:09:02] rapidtrades : I know but that's not it
[2015-11-22 10:10:56] BitMEX_Wally : Ok I'll get Sam to have a look
[2015-11-22 10:11:04] BitMEX_Wally : What browser are you on?
[2015-11-22 10:11:18] rapidtrades : firefox
[2015-11-22 10:12:02] rapidtrades : finally out of that short fellas
[2015-11-22 10:13:48] rapidtrades : premium's gone
[2015-11-22 10:14:02] rapidtrades : I'll see u later
[2015-11-22 10:40:52] zanza : anyone wanna help me pump the market on chipper whle bmex is down?
[2015-11-22 10:40:58] zanza : make some sweet profit
[2015-11-22 11:17:59] thehawthorne : When is Bmex down?
[2015-11-22 11:20:44] BitMEX_Wally : thehawthorne: 12:00 to 13:00 UTC
[2015-11-22 11:20:51] BitMEX_Wally : Starts in 40 minutes
[2015-11-22 11:21:05] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry, from 12:00 to 13:30 UTC (but will probably be quicker)
[2015-11-22 11:21:12] thehawthorne : thanks
[2015-11-22 11:48:40] habibi : settle price still will be 325.07 BitMEX_Wally?
[2015-11-22 11:49:15] BitMEX_Wally : That's the current estimate
[2015-11-22 11:49:24] habibi : 325.04
[2015-11-22 11:49:25] habibi : not moving
[2015-11-22 11:49:37] ayy lmao : lol of course
[2015-11-22 11:49:37] irbbqu : lol
[2015-11-22 11:49:59] ayy lmao : bitcoin moves right when bitmex is about to do maintnence
[2015-11-22 11:50:02] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: ? so its frozen and 325 will ?
[2015-11-22 11:50:06] ayy lmao : lmao
[2015-11-22 11:50:07] BitMEX_Wally : The calculation period is 11:30 to 12:00 so we have 20 observations so far
[2015-11-22 11:50:35] BitMEX_Wally : It's not frozen
[2015-11-22 11:59:40] ayy lmao : bitmex wally. is the settlement price based on the index or trades on bitmex
[2015-11-22 11:59:54] BitMEX_Arthur : ayy lmao: On the Index
[2015-11-22 12:00:05] ayy lmao : thx
[2015-11-22 12:00:50] BitMEX_Wally : Ok guys we are going down for schedule maintenance now
[2015-11-22 12:00:59] ayy lmao : ;/
[2015-11-22 12:01:06] irbbqu : for how long?
[2015-11-22 12:01:17] BitMEX_Wally : Less than 90 minutes
[2015-11-22 12:01:21] irbbqu : okay
[2015-11-22 12:02:00] habibi : u should halt trades after settlement
[2015-11-22 12:02:10] habibi : but anyway can be fun after 90 minutes :p
[2015-11-22 12:02:12] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, XBT24H just settled
[2015-11-22 12:02:25] BitMEX_Wally : I'm just running some checks and then I will halt all trading
[2015-11-22 12:03:41] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: did you see my message?
[2015-11-22 12:04:11] BitMEX_Wally : AudibleScience: Sorry I may have missed it?
[2015-11-22 12:05:56] AudibleScience : I was not able to add margin to an isolated xbt24h position earlier... was getting an error...
[2015-11-22 12:06:25] AudibleScience : let me duplicate the situation for you a second...
[2015-11-22 12:07:39] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: did you halt all trading already?
[2015-11-22 12:07:51] floopfloop : AudibleScience: he is jealous
[2015-11-22 12:08:01] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2015-11-22 12:08:48] AudibleScience : ah okay...
[2015-11-22 12:09:28] floopfloop : BitMEX_Arthur: any advice on the markets?
[2015-11-22 12:09:46] floopfloop : I lost quite a bit the other day and looking to recover
[2015-11-22 12:09:53] BitMEX_Arthur : I don't have a feeling one way or the other
[2015-11-22 12:09:56] floopfloop : was trading when I was tired
[2015-11-22 12:10:02] floopfloop : BitMEX_Arthur: :(
[2015-11-22 12:10:37] BitMEX_Arthur : I like to trade interest rates and basis more than outright direction
[2015-11-22 12:10:50] floopfloop : explain? @BitMEX_Arthur
[2015-11-22 12:10:59] floopfloop : BitMEX_Arthur: I'm a financial noob, especially compared to you
[2015-11-22 12:11:04] BitMEX_Arthur : I trade the differential between futures and spot and or futures and futures
[2015-11-22 12:11:19] floopfloop : oh nice. mind if I ask where?
[2015-11-22 12:11:53] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: Can't duplicate the error right now then... but basically: I was trying to add some margin to an isolated position and I was getting an error that looked something like this:", amount is a required arg"
[2015-11-22 12:12:15] BitMEX_Wally : AudibleScience: Ok I'll look into it
[2015-11-22 12:12:22] floopfloop : AudibleScience: gotta stop trading on a Mac
[2015-11-22 12:12:29] BitMEX_Arthur : floopfloop: This is what I did back in 2013 when I first got into Bitcoin. Now I just point out trades on BitMEX I think will make money, but I don't trade
[2015-11-22 12:12:44] BitMEX_Arthur : Armchair quaterback
[2015-11-22 12:13:07] BitMEX_Arthur : the long H16 trade was a good call, if anyone followed that you would have made a lot of money
[2015-11-22 12:13:21] floopfloop : BitMEX_Arthur: when?
[2015-11-22 12:13:35] BitMEX_Arthur : I was pushing that trade Late Sept to Early Oct
[2015-11-22 12:13:37] floopfloop : I remembered you calling that out a while ago, but I didnt have funds :( I want to though
[2015-11-22 12:13:39] floopfloop : yeah
[2015-11-22 12:13:42] AudibleScience : floopfloop: lol I'm not on a mac man c'mon
[2015-11-22 12:13:48] floopfloop : I was totally thinking that was the low as well
[2015-11-22 12:14:11] floopfloop : I may not know finance as well, but I def know Bitcoin. There is a certain tipping point on both sides of the price
[2015-11-22 12:14:25] floopfloop : the day to day trading is a bit tougher, but I think I am learning
[2015-11-22 12:14:37] floopfloop : I just need to stop trading when I am so tired. Dont make good decisions
[2015-11-22 12:14:43] floopfloop : AudibleScience: lies
[2015-11-22 12:15:00] AudibleScience : floopfloop: rofl
[2015-11-22 12:15:17] floopfloop : hmm
[2015-11-22 12:15:20] floopfloop : i got in on the market
[2015-11-22 12:15:28] floopfloop : not sure if that will be a good idea or not
[2015-11-22 12:15:46] floopfloop : recovering slower than expected :s
[2015-11-22 14:22:47] BitMEX_Sam : We're back up - thanks for your patience everyone.
[2015-11-22 14:23:05] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: u should have clean orderbook for people imo, i am not affected buty some people are
[2015-11-22 14:23:58] ayy lmao : the price didnt move
[2015-11-22 14:24:01] ayy lmao : lol wut
[2015-11-22 14:24:08] BitMEX_Sam : Was a good time for maintenance.
[2015-11-22 14:24:15] BitMEX_Sam : Market's sideways as usual
[2015-11-22 14:24:19] ayy lmao : unless you are on 100x, i cant see nayone being affexted
[2015-11-22 14:24:25] ayy lmao : anyone*
[2015-11-22 14:24:35] BitMEX_Wally : There have been no liquidations
[2015-11-22 14:31:10] floopfloop : habibi: thats what I was thinking, at least for the 24h
[2015-11-22 14:31:38] j8 : why no announcement except on twitter? wasn't looking there
[2015-11-22 14:31:51] BitMEX_Wally : We announced it here
[2015-11-22 14:31:59] BitMEX_Wally : And by email
[2015-11-22 14:32:12] abeaulne : got no email
[2015-11-22 14:32:22] abeaulne : needs a bit more headups
[2015-11-22 14:32:27] j8 : really? i was online and had no idea
[2015-11-22 14:32:38] j8 : was building positions as it happened
[2015-11-22 14:33:24] j8 : ah i see it was in the mailing list a week ago.. guess i spaced
[2015-11-22 14:34:05] wurstgelee : i cant find any email which announced it either
[2015-11-22 14:34:13] BitMEX_Wally : abeaulne: 'Crypto Trader Digest' email on 17 November
[2015-11-22 14:34:33] BitMEX_Wally : https://blog.bitmex.com/crypto-trader-digest-17-nov/
[2015-11-22 14:34:41] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: maybe send an email with a subject saying "scheduled maintenance" next time? ;)
[2015-11-22 14:34:48] BitMEX_Wally : wurstgelee: Good idea
[2015-11-22 14:34:55] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry if you guys were worried
[2015-11-22 14:35:09] j8 : isn't there an attention grabbing announcement banner too?>
[2015-11-22 14:35:27] wurstgelee : yes, announcement banner on site would be a good idea :D
[2015-11-22 14:37:05] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry about that guys, we'll make sure to blast it out via more mediums. This is the only time we've ever taken the trading engine down since we started trading in November 2014
[2015-11-22 14:38:04] floopfloop : anyone know why the price dropped suddenly?
[2015-11-22 14:38:20] habibi : someone sold... :p
[2015-11-22 14:39:36] donkey : did they really just say "good time for maintenance, price didnt move"?
[2015-11-22 14:40:08] j8 : 3 dollars only, could have been a lot worse
[2015-11-22 14:40:24] floopfloop : I think it still should have been reset
[2015-11-22 14:40:40] BitMEX_Sam : donkey: No, we announced this over a week ago
[2015-11-22 14:41:04] BitMEX_Sam : What I meant was, the market was sideways, so it was a very fortunate time to do it
[2015-11-22 14:41:27] j8 : well, the daily should not have opened for 4 minutes, thats for sure
[2015-11-22 14:41:31] donkey : i understand but you just said it was a good time the price didnt move
[2015-11-22 14:41:39] floopfloop : j8: yeee
[2015-11-22 14:42:23] donkey : but with 100x a $3 move can be significant
[2015-11-22 14:42:59] donkey : i think the announcement should have been allot better and trading should have been sus;ended aftersettlement
[2015-11-22 14:43:33] BitMEX_Wally : Just to confirm, if the market was not quiet then we would have postponed the maintenance
[2015-11-22 14:44:08] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: I think you are missing the point of what they are saying
[2015-11-22 14:44:54] floopfloop : No one cares that it was shutdown, especially the longer position
[2015-11-22 14:45:13] floopfloop : but the 24h shouldnt have been open at all
[2015-11-22 14:45:32] BitMEX_Wally : Agreed, we should have halted trading sooner
[2015-11-22 14:45:57] BitMEX_Wally : I had to do some risk checks before giving the go ahead
[2015-11-22 14:46:43] floopfloop : I logged into to my account .10 btc down than when I was logged in :(
[2015-11-22 14:46:44] BitMEX_Wally : Next time we will put a big flashing banner up on the site so you can't miss it
[2015-11-22 14:46:53] floopfloop : bahahaha, make it rediculous
[2015-11-22 14:46:54] donkey : and it should have been announced better, i dont read all the "spam" i get from exchanges so just announcing it in a normal email is far from sufficient..
[2015-11-22 14:47:02] donkey : that would be great wally!
[2015-11-22 14:47:16] floopfloop : honestly though, the announcement part is more our fault
[2015-11-22 14:47:39] floopfloop : but I think keep the trading platform (obv only ont he 24h) should not be done in the furture
[2015-11-22 14:48:07] floopfloop : they sent the email, we should have read it.
[2015-11-22 14:49:00] j8 : i remember reading it, somehow i thought the maintenance happened last weekend though. something visible on the site the day before would be nice
[2015-11-22 14:49:39] floopfloop : ^ true., My point is that even if we read it, we may have not been aware we wouldnt have access to the trades we made before the shutdown
[2015-11-22 14:50:18] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the feedback guys, we'll definitely make it more obvious next time around.
[2015-11-22 14:50:34] floopfloop : :)
[2015-11-22 14:51:31] donkey : i actually got lucky got a short at 325 right before it went down, there are some improvements to be made for next maintenance but i think you get it
[2015-11-22 14:51:33] thehawthorne : It was also announced via Trollbox
[2015-11-22 14:51:45] thehawthorne : i asked when maintenance will take place
[2015-11-22 14:52:27] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: if i can advice anything, would be great if 24h would be just haltef after settlement, then twitter annoucment -> site back few minutes before 14.30 utc and 14.30 trading engine start
[2015-11-22 14:52:38] habibi : but still not bad, gj with all the stuff u making here for all
[2015-11-22 14:53:39] floopfloop : habibi: I agree. The only thing in questions is the 24h
[2015-11-22 14:53:56] floopfloop : as well as the announcements. We should have 1990s gif images rofl
[2015-11-22 14:54:23] donkey : 24h, and the fact it took a hour longer than planned is not good ofcourse
[2015-11-22 14:55:12] floopfloop : donkey: yeah, but id rather have an extra hour of downtime and ensure my funds are being held in a secure manner
[2015-11-22 14:55:24] donkey : its better to plan for longer maintenance and be back sooner than the other way around in my oppinion
[2015-11-22 14:55:31] floopfloop : if you are going to have downtime, you should at least do it right and make sure everything is 100%
[2015-11-22 14:55:38] floopfloop : donkey: good point
[2015-11-22 14:56:33] donkey : allthough some would be mad thinking trading is suspended for another hour only to find its allready trading again
[2015-11-22 14:57:12] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: Heres some inspiration for the ridiculous alerts lol http://www.buzzfeed.com/adobe/obnoxious-banner-ads-that-everyone-remembers#.rvyb7qRR5X
[2015-11-22 15:00:07] floopfloop : think we will see $330 today?
[2015-11-22 15:04:26] thehawthorne : BitMEX_Sam: Are there any known issues concerning adding more margin to an isolated margin position?
[2015-11-22 15:04:44] BitMEX_Sam : thehawthorne: Yes, I am working on a fix as we speak
[2015-11-22 15:04:57] thehawthorne : Glad to hear that
[2015-11-22 15:04:59] BitMEX_Sam : Should be live in just a few minutes, apologies for the disruption.
[2015-11-22 15:05:01] thehawthorne : thanks
[2015-11-22 15:11:55] BitMEX_Sam : thehawthorne: Please refresh, the issue is fixed
[2015-11-22 15:18:04] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: maintenance directly after 24h settlement next time? ;) minimizes risk at least for 24h
[2015-11-22 15:18:25] wurstgelee : even better friday after settlement - after 7d expiry
[2015-11-22 15:20:20] thehawthorne : BitMEX_Sam: thanks. i appreciate your efforts
[2015-11-22 15:48:12] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: 41 users. Told you to make that black friday discount for contracts
[2015-11-22 15:48:19] jung1 : -20% or something
[2015-11-22 15:50:15] Gunsandsnakes : new to bitmex - this morning my XBT24H closed but under closed positions the entry price and realized PNL are just -.--
[2015-11-22 15:50:44] jung1 : in right upper corner you have expiry time
[2015-11-22 15:51:16] jung1 : on that time all contracts expired end if you not close it by yourself it close automaticly
[2015-11-22 15:51:54] Gunsandsnakes : I see - if it expires and closes itself do you keep the profit or loss?
[2015-11-22 15:52:11] jung1 : depend on the curren price
[2015-11-22 15:53:00] Gunsandsnakes : I shorted last night around 327 and so was up a bit but unable to see where my pnl % is for that closed order
[2015-11-22 15:53:07] j8 : Gunsandsnakes: check Account -> Wallet
[2015-11-22 15:53:20] j8 : there will be a CashSettlement for your pnl
[2015-11-22 15:53:41] Gunsandsnakes : ah okay I see it tere
[2015-11-22 15:53:47] Gunsandsnakes : thanks!
[2015-11-22 15:53:48] j8 : it shows -.-- because that's the next day's contract
[2015-11-22 15:53:49] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2015-11-22 15:53:55] Gunsandsnakes : ah
[2015-11-22 15:54:05] j8 : also in trade history there is a Settlement entry
[2015-11-22 15:54:07] jung1 : Gunsandsnakes: no probl
[2015-11-22 15:54:11] jung1 : Gunsandsnakes: no problemwe are proffesionals here
[2015-11-22 15:54:25] jung1 : all of us
[2015-11-22 15:54:30] Gunsandsnakes : haha
[2015-11-22 15:54:31] j8 : some of us
[2015-11-22 15:54:32] jung1 : all of us
[2015-11-22 15:55:12] jung1 : a least everyone who nickname start from "j"
[2015-11-22 15:55:19] j8 : here here
[2015-11-22 15:58:56] jung1 : j8: dont be so shy
[2015-11-22 15:59:13] j8 : how so
[2015-11-22 16:18:35] justinlooking : o/
[2015-11-22 16:21:44] floopfloop : hey
[2015-11-22 16:21:47] floopfloop : anyone got the okcoin top10 margin link?
[2015-11-22 16:21:52] floopfloop : im not at home atm
[2015-11-22 16:22:36] j8 : sure one sec
[2015-11-22 16:23:00] floopfloop : j8: ty, tried googling it. couldnt find lol
[2015-11-22 16:23:12] j8 : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do
[2015-11-22 16:23:23] j8 : you'll have to fix that link
[2015-11-22 16:23:36] jung1 : o kcoin.com.com/future/futureTop.do
[2015-11-22 16:24:00] floopfloop : no worries. ty
[2015-11-22 16:24:10] justinlooking : <code>okcoin</code>
[2015-11-22 16:25:19] jung1 : floopfloop: @j8 what is that info for?
[2015-11-22 16:25:39] floopfloop : whales
[2015-11-22 16:26:00] jung1 : but you can see volume only
[2015-11-22 16:26:35] j8 : shows % long/short of top holders, and how leveraged they are on average
[2015-11-22 16:27:30] j8 : pretty normal at the moment.
[2015-11-22 16:28:07] j8 : leaning short a bit.
[2015-11-22 16:28:11] floopfloop : there should be a price bump today I would imagine
[2015-11-22 16:28:23] floopfloop : it crashed this morning for no reason
[2015-11-22 16:28:34] floopfloop : helped me make money on a short i was down .5 btc on rofl
[2015-11-22 16:28:36] j8 : does it ever need a reason?
[2015-11-22 16:28:50] floopfloop : yes, this is science bitch
[2015-11-22 16:28:54] jung1 : butterfly effect
[2015-11-22 16:29:09] floopfloop : over 322 yay
[2015-11-22 16:29:23] j8 : it depends what level of explanation you're looking for
[2015-11-22 16:29:29] floopfloop : i took a long too early this morning
[2015-11-22 16:29:43] floopfloop : I need hard facts and provable evidence
[2015-11-22 16:29:49] floopfloop : in other words, Obama did it
[2015-11-22 16:30:15] j8 : a lot of people will say, the price went down because people sold. there's evidence of that
[2015-11-22 16:30:33] floopfloop : j8: Obama did it
[2015-11-22 16:30:36] donkey : no shit sherlock
[2015-11-22 16:30:37] jung1 : I have one plot
[2015-11-22 16:30:48] j8 : it might not sound like a good explanation to you but that's the level of explanation
[2015-11-22 16:30:48] jung1 : yesterday I found this http://i.imgur.com/xewKtB4.jpg _bear market is comming
[2015-11-22 16:31:20] floopfloop : jung1: thats a bear relaxing while the bulls run silly
[2015-11-22 16:31:47] jung1 : nah
[2015-11-22 16:32:00] floopfloop : jung1: yes sugar tits
[2015-11-22 16:32:40] jung1 : he laugh couse everyone thinks that he disappear
[2015-11-22 16:34:18] floopfloop : he laughs because he is smoking a doob while on his break
[2015-11-22 16:35:50] floopfloop : there should be a betting module between users. Say I want to bet the user an x amount of money the price will be above or below a certain price at a certain time. Then I could bet another user. What do you like BitMEX_Sam? lol
[2015-11-22 16:36:06] floopfloop : what do you think*
[2015-11-22 16:36:43] jung1 : there was that kind of site
[2015-11-22 16:36:51] jung1 : where you could make own bets
[2015-11-22 16:36:59] jung1 : social betting
[2015-11-22 16:37:22] floopfloop : yeah, but this would be more inclusive, and the funds wouldnt have to leave teh exchange
[2015-11-22 16:37:32] jung1 : https://www.betmoose.com/
[2015-11-22 16:44:10] floopfloop : did Bitmex do something with their MM? Ton more liquidity than usual
[2015-11-22 16:44:38] jung1 : yeah they run own willy bot
[2015-11-22 16:50:03] j8 : it's called the wally bot
[2015-11-22 17:10:34] aethlios : fee structure change tomorrow, -0.025% maker 0.075% taker.
[2015-11-22 17:10:47] justinlooking : where?
[2015-11-22 17:12:05] habibi : its it changed already?
[2015-11-22 17:13:22] aethlios : monday 12:00 gmt, in a few hours.
[2015-11-22 17:13:33] floopfloop : jung1: hows dat bear working out?
[2015-11-22 17:14:45] floopfloop : that dollar premium is real
[2015-11-22 17:18:56] floopfloop : ladies and gentleman, strap on your seatbelts. A bullrun is about to embark
[2015-11-22 17:23:56] TschavaTschigger : oh, fees going up... bad news
[2015-11-22 17:24:58] floopfloop : TschavaTschigger: no they arent
[2015-11-22 17:25:37] TschavaTschigger : they are, except you do market orders for the most part...
[2015-11-22 17:25:49] TschavaTschigger : if you do 50-50, fees are higher
[2015-11-22 17:26:29] habibi : TschavaTschigger: why? if u do 50/50 making and taking fees are the same
[2015-11-22 17:26:45] TschavaTschigger : no, taker was 0.0045% before as far as I remember
[2015-11-22 17:26:48] TschavaTschigger : and maker 0%
[2015-11-22 17:26:54] habibi : i think 0.005
[2015-11-22 17:27:10] habibi : maybe 0.0045 with 10% ref discount for 6 months
[2015-11-22 17:27:50] floopfloop : TschavaTschigger: nope
[2015-11-22 17:28:28] floopfloop : TschavaTschigger: 0.05%
[2015-11-22 17:28:48] floopfloop : now its .025/0.75
[2015-11-22 17:29:27] TschavaTschigger : wanna bet it was 0% / 0.045% before? I just looked up my trade history and recalculated it... and no, I don't have ref discount
[2015-11-22 17:29:29] BitMEX_Wally : minus 0.25%
[2015-11-22 17:29:51] BitMEX_Wally : TschavaTschigger: The fee change goes live tomorrow
[2015-11-22 17:30:14] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: the taker fee before was 0.045% right? some people here claim it was 0.05%
[2015-11-22 17:30:15] BitMEX_Wally : So it is currently 0% / 0.05% (or if you have a 10% discount then 0% / 0.045%
[2015-11-22 17:31:02] TschavaTschigger : so I was wrong... seems like a have a discount, why? didn't refer anyone
[2015-11-22 17:31:03] BitMEX_Wally : Hover your mouse over the question mark on 'Order Controls (XBT24H) ?'
[2015-11-22 17:31:12] BitMEX_Wally : It will tell your your current rates
[2015-11-22 17:31:16] TschavaTschigger : yeah it says 0.045%